I TRIED TO KILL GREEN DUST ALGAE - HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED...
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- čas přidán 11. 04. 2022
- According to most website's you should get rid of Green Dust Algae by ''just leaving it alone'' apparently this type of algae has a short life cycle. So let's give that a try!
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Did you ever try ''killing'' Green Dust Algae by ''just leaving it alone'' ??
I let my nerite snails do all the work
I just keep on , scrub and cleaning any and do lot’s of water change about 2-3 weeks and now none left
I have little bit on my glass that is easy to scrape off then doing water change but my hardscape always get it and have to dip it in hydrogen solution to clean it. This is going on in 2 of my tanks. Tried to lower the light, dose phosphates but nothing seems to be working. After cleaning it's fine for couple of weeks but it always come back.
@@josips4281 lower the dosage of ferts than you usually put, don’t over feed the tank, water change every week about 40-50% and it will go off
It will get worse.. nothing works when this gda comes out of nowhere.. my tank is 1 year old and used to be cristal clear water. My next trial will be cleaning the substrate and replanting everything.. lets see if it will work.. otherwise I will have to start a new setup
I love your channel. As you mention, there is dpahnia in the lakes near you, if you would like me to suggest, it would be interesting if one day you made a video in those places and show the diversity of flora and fauna of the lakes and put together a regional biotope.
Brilliant idea !!! Its an amazing part of the World w/ so much to share !! Especially now we all need a healthy dose of nature 🏞️
As a last resort I used a diluted amount of Hydrogen Peroxide in the water. I've got rummy nose, kitty tetras, corys, otos and amano shrimp plus some assassin snails and none of them died. 25 to a maximum of 35 ml of the 3% solution of hydrogen peroxide per 50 liters of water. I went with the lowest dose and let it do it's thing and it wiped the algae out. I left the filters running as well.
That was about 9 months ago and I still have all my shrimp and fish.
Was this for green dust algae or another type?
Thumbs up for this video! Thank you for documenting your successes, as well as your not so successful attempts. Both are very important parts of learning.
Amazing content as always!! You’re my new favorite aquascape CZcamsr! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
My two cents, is that the expensive high budget light, might actually be too strong for such a small tank - which is why that one has suffered a lot more with algae issues.
Would you consider doing a video of catching the daphia at the lake and the follow-up feeding? Would be nice to see.
Thanks for the video! I always wondered if that treatment worked.
I have noticed that my green dust algae problems seemed to fix themselves once I lowered the intensity of my light and brought my photo period down from 8 to 7 hours. Plus, it seems like the more healthy plants I have in my tank the less green dust algae I'll get
I love your honesty bro.
At least you tried something new! Keep up the good work!
Hi, green dust algea is alge type that everyone of us has to deal with... at least from time to time. I had issues with it already three times. In my case I could get rid of it when I stopped to dose NPK and Fe fertilizer and for ca. 2 weeks replaced those with fertilizer which has low level of pottasium (the best results I achieved with Aqua Rebell Makro Spezial N). I don't know if it works only with my tanks or is general, but based on my observations high level of pottasium promotes green dust algea.
Love your content my friend, my favourite aquatic content creator 👍🏻
Hey Mark. Informative video once again...I used to have this algae as well. But with regular nutrient dosing it went away. Maybe you could check if it could be fixed by increasing any nutrient in water column using liquid fertilizer
I agree with you that it's hard to look at an aquarium full of green algae. I too have this problem before and needed to scrape it off the glass every 2 days so I clean my external filter and added beneficial bacteria with every water change. After a full month the problem just went away and now I hardly get any green dust algae even at the 1 week mark before my water change. Hope you get to solve yours in the near future.
Hi.
All very interesting to watch your various experiments, so thank you for sharing.
I think it would be great to see if UV light would kill the algae.
Also maybe turn the lights lower in intensity or shortening the duration of lighting period.
🙂
UV doesn't do anything to green dust algae. Tinkering with the lights however, will affect it. I had a bad case of GDA on a 400L tank when I switched to a more powerful lighting.
I always used to have problems with green algae, idk if it has anything to do with it but since i started incorporating red Ramshorn snails and floating plants specifically frogbit i haven't had those issues anymore
Nice experience to share i have noticed that some tanks once they are populated with algae spores it difficult to eradicate even strict manually removing it once i see the tank is destroyed i ripped all and start from the zero with new healthy plants 😬
Thumbs up for another educational video about what works and what doesn't work.
I would lower the light intensity and/or shorten the photoperiod, and add more snails.
Did you do anything different with the base substrate for that tank? I had a green algae problem the first time I attempted a dirted tank. The cap was too thin and nutrients leaked into the water column.
Just went through this nightmare over the past 10 days - a good quality in-line UV filter took care of the problem. Good luck.
What floating plants are in your blue shrimp scape? Love your content! Very helpful and pleasant to watch.
salvinia auriculata
I've had great success with my UVC light to keep green algae out of my tanks. I have custom internal skimmer box that I blacked out. I tuck in in there and youd never know I had one. People put them in their sumps but I see your all about the internal filter systems. I think its cleaner looking without mechanical stuff in the tanks. However, I think if you invested in a light youd find that simply by placing it next to the filter for just 2 days its going to rid the tank of all that. It's a hands free way that's very effective. Id also change the light you have to blue spectrum duromg the day and off of course at night. Love your channel, learning a lot about plants and CO2.
Hi, I have had same issue with some of my tanks. What I have done recently: I have limited micro nutrients liquid ferts.
I think what most of high energy setup have - is overdosing of ferts... I experience this for a long time.
So what worked for me: I have drain 70% of water, clean the glass, cleaned the filters, fill up with RO water (reminarlized) and start dosing again as I did, but micro with 50% of dose.
Plants do not suffer, GDA does not coming back - worked for me - I am happy with the result.
I’m a big fan of doing more waterchanges to get rid of green algae or other algae. Your treatment combined with a week of waterchanges, let’s say every other day including cleaning of the glass, should do the trick. Sure, it is a lot of work, but worth a try. 🙂
is it possible to use uv light when you have an internal filter? elle hang on back filter?
Good job baddy 🥰
I had kinda same serious dust algae problem in the last month in my iwagumi ( only eleocharis species) I lowered the light and adding extra phosphate since last week now and i get 0 algae in the glass. And I see the massive speed up in the plant growth.
Hi, ı hope u doing well, ım new in that hobby ım in Turkey and ı cant see any good information here so ı have a question. I just see the GSA in my some slow growing plants in that past few day. I dose excel on that plants so ı going to change water and dose a little bit more excel and phosphate in that few day after this if its works the GSA will gone by itself or should i intervene manually? Have a nice day 🙂
Yes you should use UV steriliser. I also want to see how the black out process works.
Yeah been there myself but once I start running UV sterilizer that did it for me. Good informative video as always.
I had gda i found it was caused by damaged bacteria in my filter, i regenterated the bacteria with biohome product and after a couple weeks normal maintenance as the bacteria developed the gda was gone
You could keep the fish out and dilute a small amount of hydrogen peroxide into the water column. Leave it running for a week and see what happens. Plants should be fine at such a low dose, but algae will suffer.
I have a Uv Sterilizer in my ADA 60p and the water stays crystal clear I really like them but the in-line UV sterilizer looks better than the in-tank one
I have a tank that gets dust algae. this tank is near a window so i've attributed it to the natural daylight. i've just been cleaning the glass and then doing a 50% water change. it hasn't gone away but it doesn't really bother me. I also have a lot of snails and amono shrimp which helps.
I have the same problem in my aquarium. There are 2 options, either the light intensity is high or the phosphate and nitrate ratios are not balanced. I also need some help.
I have been fighting this for a long time. I believe it comes in with the city water! LOL! Anyway...just leaving it does NOT work...it doesn't just 'go away'. Also, tank additives to kill algae don't seem to work. So, I have just included cleaning all the glass with each water change as a matter of course. The water is clear...it's just one the glass, mostly, though does get some of of the decor and aquarium equipment. Good luck!
MJ, in my experience your plant stress means you're not going to out compete the nutrients the algae needs after your treatment. When mine was really bad I created a "water polisher" (lots of filer floss and an internal filter) every time I did a water change and scraped the glass I left the polisher running during maintenance and for a few hours after; sometimes I did this twice a week. Now my tank is back to just normal levels which I kind of want for feeding nerites and amano's...
Hi Mark! I think I know what is causing GDA to be so aggressive. As you said, I met only an inoffensive form of this type of algae during de tank cycle, but this one is very strange. Oh, and yes, it stinks horribly...!!! It happened when I used for the first time the root caps from ML. I used them in 2 tanks(both cycled old tanks), one with soil and the other one with quartz gravel. In the soil tank it is so aggressive that it's even creating a green layer on the water surface, it also spread on the upper part of the plant leaves. Meantime, the situation of the gravel tank is much better, it is somehow under control, probably because the gravel keeps the caps better because it's heavier than the soil. So, in my soil tank I switched off the light for 3 days. It's much better now, but it's not competely gone. It will probably last until de caps will release competely all the nutrients. Anyway, water changes helped me to lower the no3 level, which was very high. These ML caps are not suitable for aquarium, they are actually Osmocote "grains" that are made for potted plants and their release time is too quick when they reach the water. Google about Osmocote and you'll see what I mean😉👍
Did you clean your filter thoroughly when cleaning that green dust algae?
My 70l jungle tank was going along nicely until I added 4 Sterbai corydoras. I increased the feeding to ensure they were getting enough then suddenly the GDA appeared. At first it wasn't too bad then I was having to clean it every few days. I reduced feeding, cut down light hours and intensity with no improvement after 2-3 weeks. I have since rescaped the tank, removing everything except that substrate. It now has significantly less plant mass but I have added a cannister filter in addition to the HOB(which I will retire soon). So far there are no signs of GDA, so fingers grossed the extra flow and filtration have done the job.
I had severe case of Gda and sorted by this method
1. Removed the extra light which was an experiment.
2. Let it as it is for four weeks
3. Scrap it down,drain water, applied gluteraldehyde using sponge on glass
It didn’t come back again. Going good for two weeks
Did you check your no3 level that usually triggers green dust with high light
Feel like a UV sterilizer would definitely help. Though I think using peroxide and killing some of the plants would cause additional excess nutrients which help feed more algae. Perhaps more water changes would help remove those excess nutrients and get the plants going again to balance everything out. I would still like to see a UV sterilizer in action though. Maybe that can be your next test? Two tank startup with similar equipment but one had a UV sterilizer?
i also havent cleaned my glass and it has green dust algae i feel so relatable 🤣🤣🤣 like always keep up the good work💪
Idk but some tanks look very yellowish to me. I also have this when I make video's from my tanks. Do you know where it comes from?
A lot of plants don't do well with hydrogen peroxide I stopped using it in my tank's, I still use to clean hardscape but I'll thoroughly rinse off before putting back into the tank
Hi mate. I've been reading in Green Aqua Algae guide and it says this type of algae comes from a lack of Co2 and nutrients. Did you check that out?
Hello! I have the same problem with green dust. I tried turning down the light, but it didn't help. For some reason I have a suspicion that the Kelvin temperature is 5200K. Do you think this is possible? Another aquarium with 8000K did not have this problem.
When you have trouble with dust algea i recommend using the dense grey sponges from "Action". They cost like 1 euro for 4 and they don't contain any chemicals. You'll wipe away the algea in 1 wipe. I've been using them for several years now and cant do maintenance without them. I really recommend you try it. Cheers uncle MJ :)
I'll give them a try!
@@MJAquascaping Please let me know what you think of them, perhaps they can help out some Dutch aquascapers.
hello my friend, what did you do for this algae? can you give an urgent answer?
Please make some water tests to see what cause the algae bloom! If you search on Internet you will find some different options. You have that VIMI ferts and you can use it separately to add macros. Test it by use separate ferts, co2, lean dosage or light! Do it!
Que les das de comer a tus gambas? Alguna marca especial? Gracias!! ❤️
I've been using a Chihiros doctor to manage my GDA and three months in it's been working perfectly.
I've been really curious to try one of these, but they seem to be hard to get here in the US.
@@twilaquatic8822 I ordered mine off eBay and took about two weeks to arrive. I’d highly recommend it for controlling GDA and hair algae, but hasn’t helped with blue green algae and diatoms.
how many hours a week do you spend on maintenance?
When I ran into that particular algae in two different tanks (not at the same time), I followed the advice of another online hobbyist and shortened my photo period. I decreased by 1 hour, gave it a few days. With one tank, I only had to do that one adjustment, and the algae quickly went away. With the other tank, I had to decrease by an extra hour. That latter tank sits near a window. Even with the curtains drawn, enough light seeps around the edges of the curtains that the tank gets more light than I put into it. Haven't had anymore trouble with either tank. The algae died off on its own and disappeared. One tank has shrimp in (Amanos AND cherries) as well as bushynose plecos, but the other doesn't.
Some time ago I did the same, but I also cleaned the filter, for me the problem is over. I think that not cleaning the filter was the error.
I recently had an issue with an algae bloom in a new tank, it had green water, green dust algae and stringy hair type. I bought a uv steriliser and it completely got rid of the green water and dust algae, water is crystal clear! The string type algae still remains tho
If you go the route of UV sterilizer that would be super interesting since the information is so hard to find. Like does UV light actually cause ferts to precipitate in water like iron or is that a myth?
Hi. I had the same problem in my 112L tank, water changes didn't work as I wanted. Wipin glass by paper towel and sponge didint work. Even after few houers dust was comming back. I tried UV Lamp and that was It eaven after one day when UV lamp was running 24/7.
you recommend uv then? i have gda too
@@josemariamartinez3427 hi there. If you have an uvc lamp any god one it will help, I recommend to turn it on before you start wiping the glass and live it on 24/ for a feew days.
@@rysanaszkledrejka2922 ok! thank you so much :)
I have used a UV sterilizer on a pond but never in an aquarium. The results were amazing it's shocking how fast it cleans the algae
I wouldn’t put a UV lamp on a “low budget”…. BTW, I love failed treatments!
Mark a small internal filter with a built-in UV steriliser is very inexpensive. The light is I honestly think too blue and at this stage in the tank perhaps too intense. Blackout with now weakened plants may finish most of them off.
I mostly get GDA in the Spring/Summer, in my experience high light + warmer temperatures are a major cause if the tank is still biologically immature without substantial plant growth. I've found decreasing ambient lights (windows, lamps, other tank lights, etc.), no food and no ferts will help after a few days, water changes only feed the demon. I will only blackout if I can't see through the Water Column.
I'm very having a shelf like yours. did you make it yourself?
Bought it 😊
May be it helps, 6 hrs of light, 3+3, between them 2 hrs off, during 3 days. First night you add 2-3 ml seachem excel and 2-3ml easycarbo. After that 1ml excel+1ml easycarbo everynight.
I know this is completely off-topic of the current video, but would you mind doing a video soley dedicated to lights? I.E., what light to use or is best ranging from "Low, Medium and High"? I'm 2 months in to my low tech aquascape, and I feel like the Dennerle nano light that came with my setup, isn't enough for my plants. BTW I absolutely love your videos.
Yep was planning to do something like that soon!
@@MJAquascaping Awesome =) Thank you so much MJ.
My tank is pretty decently balanced but I still have a hard green algae growing on my hard scape is there anyway to eliminate that
There is probably an excess of some nutrients, so i would either do more water changes, or add floating plants or reduce liquid ferts
You could try the blackout method that would probably do wonders.
Aaaaaaannd you juste mentionned it at the end of the video lol! Inline UV will only help during the early stages i think. I have one in my canister i still grt green dust algae but i can control it using Seachem excel and Algol from JBL
Algol works, but after a week shrimps start dying one after another
@@Xizario2 have never seen that in my tank. You should under dose it and only use it after water changes at least that is what i do.
What kind of shrimps do you have? I have cherry shrimps
Clean off the glass/equipment everyday. Never let it build up. More algae equals more spores. Dust algae can live off very low levels of nutrients. Just light and water seem to do the trick for its growth. After cleaning the glass/equipment, do large frequent water changes with reconstituted R/O water if possible. Do not dose any liquid fertilizer during outbreak. Never let weeks go by without actively trying to reduce it. Dust algae will never go completely away but you can reduce it enough to be acceptable.
Yo metí caracol neritina y me ayudaron bastante a quitar toda esa alga
I always give you a thumbs up. But in this case I had the extra special intention that the thumbs up was going for your failed experiment. That made me laugh out loud. Best of luck in solving this problem I'm watching very carefully even though I don't have the problem myself
Shows you have skills that you are willingness of posting a fail.. thank you for being human! Others are always perfect-o
I can’t get rid of my Cyanobacteria. I finally got rid of the substrate and plants to start over. It’s a bare bottom tank at the moment. My plan is to wait a few weeks to see if the bacteria is fully eradicated first before rescaping but unfortunately it’s still not gone. Yesterday I was manually removing more that was starting to grow back.
Good luck with the fight against cyano! It's a fight no one wants to pick.
A month ago I purposedly put a rock covered in moss not knowing it was infested with cyanobac. 2 weeks later the entire tank is green😂😂. 1 week battling them, blacking out the tank, scrubbing the infested rocks and siphoning green covered substrate, constant water change everyday.
after that comes hair algae and green water. now all of it are gone and comes the diatom phase. recently noticed that the cyano is still growing on the rocks but its growth halted. a slight relieve.. lol
rescaping an already accomplished hardscape is not worth it. just deal with it! 😂
in january i also got floating plants infested with cyano, also grows on the glass. I just threw them all out, and replace it with fresh one😅
seems like the only way to get rid of cyano is to get rid of the source. when it's gone, another algae will thrive! lol
I never trust chemicals nor medicine to eradicate algae/cyano. it will 100% harm the tank and will kill the beneficial bacteria. meaning prone to disease!
The most success I've ever had with cynobacteria was a full 3 day black out. I covered the tank with a black bag and didn't touch it. The shrimp, fish and plants survived and I've not had any cyno in 3 or 4 years. Worth a try.
Hi man,
I had same problem in my aquarium for 3 weeks.
I did exactly what you did with same results, after that I continued with water cheange 2 times a week . I was loking after my No3 to keep them down. After cleaning my glas with paper towel each water cheange I got success just after 3 weeks. I wasn't able also just leave algea grow.
Cool! I will keep wiping it away with paper towels then!
How large were your water changes each time?
Hey what is the plant with the big leaf at 3:20 ?
Aponogeton madagascariensis
@@MJAquascaping thanks :)
Do you know if it can live emmersed?
Is green dust algae the same as green water algae?
i would put in at least 3 nerite snails, i have them in my tank and no algae on glass
Try the blackout method. I have used it with relatively good success and my tank was in a much worse state than yours.
Mocht je snoei(“afval”) hebben van de rotala dan neem ik dat graag van jou over. Alvast bedankt!
I think I would just break it down and start a new scape or experiment 😀
Have you tried reduce the light?
Green Alge Is Free Shimp and fry Food
Hello 👋 put a lot of daphnia in your tank, they could eat algae….and ….wait and see. ! It’s just a test to see if it works . That’s what I would do 🧐
Çözüm UV filtre kullanıp ve 1 gün karartma yapmanız karartma sonrası ışık süresini 3 saat ile başlayıp 3 gün sonra yüzde 30 su değişimi ve ışık süresi 4 saate çıkartıp 3 gün sonra yüzde 30 su değişimi ışık süresi 4.5 saat 3 gün sonra yüzde 30 su değişimi ışık süresi 5 saat şekilde ilerleme yapın tankınız da böyle bir sorun yaşıyorsanız uygulayın aynı sorunla bu şekilde kurtuldum
Hello MJ
welcome to the comment section everybody... hope you are dping well....
MJ fantastic video! thanks a lot.. You should come here to see my tank if you have never seen anything like that.. my tank used to be a planted tank with some tetras, now it is a GDA tank.. lol
What happened to the shrimp? Did it survive the treatment?
Yeah shrimp are fine!
I would love to see you use the UV light! I was always curious about how good they are. I really think it’s a hoax! Just saying!!!
Try to apply APT fix on the glass it has epoxy and will prevent algae to coming back for a very long time. I used it and had a success but it is very very dangerous to plants so do it in diluted form. Clean the glass and Dip some cotton in the APT fix and wipe the glass with it and leave the glass until it gets dry and fill it back with water. I found APT fix better and concentrated than excel.
Caution what ever touches the APT FIX melts/dies so ensure the APT FIX dries out before you fill the water back. Once it gets dries out its completely safe.
I am against to chemicals but you can try when it's completely out of hand.
APT fix is really a wonderful product if used with caution and care. I am a consumer not a promoter of this product.
The idea of completely killing or removing all green dust algae and spores from a tank just seems impossible to me. I had a gda problem and the only thing that worked for me was a significant reduction in nitrate levels. I had to mix my own fertilizers to do this because I still needed to dose phosphate relatively high to keep green spot algae under control. It looks like your plants could get nearly all the nitrogen they need from the substrate. You might try dosing just potassium and phosphate macros for a few weeks and my guess is that this gda problem will fade away.
oh... it's been 2 weeks since my aquarium is clean after the invasion of these algae. 🙂 Also, I cleaned the glass, and the next day there was already a green layer.
I waited 2-3 weeks, changed the water and cleaned the internal filter, did not touch the glass. No CO2.
readiness checked with a scraper. How fast will a new layer grow)
But now... algae attack in the new aquarium 😭
Put in your tank.
Dennerle Plantagold...
Very good.
Enzymes. Help for restart thé plants growing.
Thé best.
I use that 20 years ago..... serioustly....
Push that and tu verra
Make it a Skittle tank for your shrimp
Free food
Wow if you put the UV hook up on your line and you completely emptied your canister and did a 3/4 water change plus scraping and washing your glass there is no way this bloom came back. Im so sorry if it did. I have delt with this multiple times but never failed. The only thing left is too much light or chemicals as far as I know. Thats not you. But I don't anything. Just a fellow scaper who loves this discipline. Don't give up.
I'm having minor green dust algae issues as well. I read it has something to do with not enough phosphates which is weird because too much can also cause algae.
Please do an experiment with UV sterilizer vs Chihiro's Doctor!
You're probably thinking of gsa - gda should't have anything to do with phosphates.
@@cogarg80 He's right tho! yesterday i checked my phosphates and they were on 0 while the walls of my aquarium were covered with GDA. But what was the reason? i added more plants on Saturday and they sucked all the available phosphates in the water column (before Saturday i had no GDA in the aquarium). Now i will have to dose a little bit more and that will do it.
@@cogarg80 ah, gsa may be it! They sometimes look similar
UV doesn't do anything to green dust algae
@@gabrielalexander3069 Hi, i have the same problem, it works?
It is on your plants. The plants are not dead. The white is dying algae. If no fish just treat it with peroxide with water in. Then you get all the spores in the entire system.
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I like your video !!!
Low Budget is Killing the High Budget 🙉
Maybe the light is too much for the amount of co2 you inject?