Kawhi Leonard drops out of Team USA, has he ruined his legacy? | NBA | SPEAK
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- Kawhi Leonard withdrew from Team USA ahead of the 2024 Olympics. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones, and LeSean McCoy discuss how Leonard’s legacy has been impacted by this as well as his recent injury woes.
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No.
Whoever manages Kawhii these past 4 years is the greatest of all time. I don't even know how he still gets signed to huge contracts.
No thanks. We have Unc and Ocho
They needa send Acho on vacation again broski is buggin 🤦🏾♂️
What he say that was wrong??? What has kawhi done impressive? His ring in Toronto isn't even legitimate cause injuries
Acho is slowly becoming wild with these takes
Facts. Lebron was afraid? 😂
They probably go over these questions in pre-show meetings and he puts it on himself to play devil's advocate on these topics.
Otherwise, it's not a debate. Not very good for ratings/views.
You'll see him smirk every now and then when the others are questioning his stance on certain things.
Yeah when acho admitted he gives takes just to make good back and forths for tv I lost all respect for him and his "opinions".
Acho Bayless😢
That’s the host always is on this show… they get unbearable
How does this call into question Kawhi’s legacy? Y’all just say anything for news or clicks huh? The man has rings and two FMVPs. He’ll be fine
Facts
He's always hurt
Post Toronto it's been really bad. I don't blame him, he doesn't need to play to make hundreds of millions of dollars but he's milking
And still a QUITTER!
They're right, his shyness comes off as cowardice, barely speaks, off putting interactions, King of load management, complete lack of real leadership. Kawhi been taken to the cleaners too many times. That's how he got washed 😂
Comparing Kawhi to Greg oden is crazy. Smh
He knows he has to be in top shape if he wants to play 30 games
This comment outta pocket 😂😂
Bruh 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
@@startedfromscratch1529😂
@@MajestixComicsClix😂
I don't think it's his fault, he's just got that Todd gurley knee.
exactly!! so it was smart for him to use this time to focus to rest and get his body back to 100%... you cant get that without rest&recoop
@macanthony1982 how much more time you need 😂😂😂 how many games he miss again?
@@TaiLePhan right, you must be an athlete to know how it feels... LOL perhaps he will get right this summer... He is in his 30s now
@@TaiLePhanI mean, the clippers knew that and they still paid him, you can't blame him for taking the money, you would take the money too if they offered it to you
@@macanthony1982 how you injured in the playoffs and volunteer to be in the Olympics when he can't even stay healthy 😂
2017 playoff zaza pachulia is what ruined Kawhi's legacy
Yup that’s when the load management started.
Na. That just exposed who the Spurs were dealing with and who Kawhi really is. This stint with the Clippers reaffirmed that. Even Paul George got tf away from this dude after he dragged him out there 😂.
Kwahi’s just cashing checks now. He belongs on the Utah Jazz.
He won in 2019 tho, he’s just getting old
@@daboss6614 true, I'm just a bit bitter as a spurs fan who loved kawhi, and the zaza incident is just when his injuries/drama with the spurs started
@@daboss6614 Lets be real they won cuz KD and Klay were injured. GSW resorted to play Buggie and he got injured too 😅
How is this affecting his legacy? He didn't even play during the playoffs. Now, if he got injured during the Olympics and has another setback, then y'all be saying he should've never gone to play. He has two rings, two Finals MVPs, and is a top-75 player. He'll be alright.
Your point is very valid , my question frm beginning was why is he and a few others on this team when we have younger fresher players capable in the NBA ,simply dude stays hurt
A lot of people don't understand how amazing Tiger winning the 2008 US open and 2019 Masters really was.
It was amazing! I watched every hole and it was incredible. On a leg w/a fracture come on man!
@@richardforbes943 the tying putt is iconic. He then won in a 18 hole playoff on one leg. For those who might not know.
@@HockeyDudeJames2 For the life of me I cant think of the guy that was there w/Tiger putt for putt shot for shot..its at the tip of my tongue..Oh Rocco Mediate. It just came to me..One of the best rounds for a Us Open I can remember,what a battle man!
ACHO, Please stop kissing your Oppressors backside and do your homework as opposed to ruining Kawhi Leonard legacy is still in tact folks, Joy Taylor is absolutely spot on today folks!!!❤ We all get injuries and Leonard will be back!!!
Dude hasn't finished the last four years healthy and his absence IS the reason why the Clippers run has failed. You don't get healthier or stronger in your mid to late 30s. His legacy will be tainted by injuries alone
@@Firestorm2814SectorEXACTLY💯🎯
He'll be back for what??? To play half the season then go down with another injury right before the playoffs😂😂
Get mental help you read to much BS.
You won’t say that to his face!
Michael Jordan comparisons is madness and then put him in the Greg Oden realm . Man what are you talking about? 1:32
Not even close to mj
@@jamesorr4445in terms of playstyle he was the closest thing to MJ cause of things like his mid range, defense and even his hand size that was a real comparison. Not saying he’s as good as MJ obviously but it was definitely a convo
@@guiseppejacobs2357 closest thing to MJ is Kobe, Kawhi can't sniff those guys. Kawhi's greatness ain't even top 3 in his generation. Stop trying to compare him to the GOAT.
@@Yangbo you said all this and somehow still missed the point of what I was saying lmao. Y’all are crazy
Didnt he play like 70 games last season? A contract year too. Shuts it down in the playoffs and now for Team USA. This guy is a business man
And still missed the playoffs.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Why agree to play on team USA to begin with?
And than when he got that bag and the playoffs were about to start he was suddenly hurt again
@@yarmus718 because he hasnt suited up for red white & blue before. Might not be a dream of his but is a nice thing to be able to say at the end of your career.
Kawhi was never better than Kobe as a two way player. Acho wild & compared him to Gregg Oden lmao This man is NUTS
He definitely was he wasn’t as flashy but defensively it’s not as close as it seems and offensively Kobe had more to offer but kawahi did it all especially in big moments
@@jamalellis2389Kobe plays all the games lol all of them
@@jamalellis2389Kobe was all defensive 12 times most by any gaurd in history and was one of the greatest scorers ever kawhi not touching kobe
@@Realblingking00 that's a pretty weak troll.
@@Realblingking00 kobe was all defensive team 12 times most selections by any Guard in nba history wtf u talking bout
2x Champion 2x NBA Finals= 1st ballot Hall of Famer
Nuff said….
I will remember kawaii for load management every time his name comes up period
Aint top 10 or even 20 all-time great.
2x DPOY as well
@@tigera6 What does that have to do with Kawhi being a future HOF?
Kawhi also prevented a 3 peat for the 2013-14 heat and the 2018-19 warriors does that count for something? I’ve always wanted to witness an actual 3 peat run an he prevented both times of that… that’s greatness in my opinion 🤷♂️
Wouldn’t count the 2018-19 Warriors since KD and Klay both got hurt and couldn’t play the rest of the series. They even almost won Game 6 with just Steph and Game 6 Klay nearly carrying them to a win until he tore his ACL on the fast break dunk. But Kawhi def gets credit for his performance against the Heat
Not to me cuz lebron average 28 ppg on 59% FG against kawhi and both KD and klay got hurt in that finals series
Injuries prevented the golden state one but yes
He wasnt the carrying the Spurs team in the 2014 Final like he did in 2019 with Toronto.
@@tigera6 Understood but you know how the NBA is.. it’s all bout the narrative they want you to focus on kawhi beating Lebron/ Dwade not Kawhi Duncan Ginobili and company beating the heat
The man has two Championships, two finals MVP’s and back to back defense player of the year awards, his legacy is straight. It’s just sometimes your body just doesn’t fully heal right after certain injuries. I would retire if it was my situation and still work for the league.
His legacy is what exactly?? Cause ask anyone his legacy could have been top 10…. Ut he’s clearly not due to load management/injuries … so isn’t that messing with his legacy?
His klickity clackity knees sure make it on the court for that contract year! Worst superstar in history as SAS says. Bum.
@@ryanlebard3787 umm his legacy is that he’s a winner. He’s accomplished more than most NBA players. If Steve Nash has a legacy then Kawhi will have one
@@jrcrit8843his legacy could have been much higher is the point … his legacy is gonna
“ what could have been “
All that resume was almost 5 years ago lol.
Joy knows dang well she did not say Toronto was winning a chip 😂
cry
@@sonseed7541 what up Joy nice to meet your burner
@@tjr2312 keep liking ur comments, hope the 16 likes was worth it , ur nobody in life 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@sonseed7541 Lmaoo what are you so mad for?? tf
@@SmokingSwisher another alt keep liking ur comments ur nothing in life
Whenever acho starts his little exhausting speeches I fast forward the video
KD and Klay don't get hurt, Raptors don' t win the 2019 chip....but injuries are part of sports...in closing, others' injuries helped his career and his injuries did not allow him to reach his max potential...
Best decision he ever made.
All of them talking about JJ's eating is hilarious. This team has chemistry.
kawhi is a 2 time finals mvp and 2 time champ
If KD wasn't hurt, he'd only have one finals and finals mvp.
@@ZomegJ Ok, we are using that logic. If Kawhi stayed healthy he would be the best player of all time and have 4 rings on 4 different teams. We like to focus on what really happened here.
@@enigma13ff He was healthy in 2020 with months off and choked. He hasn’t even been on 4 different teams. It’s been a disaster with the Clippers
@@ZomegJas if GS didn’t win all their rings because of injuries?
why does acho always have to speak like he's in a slam poetry competition?
Kawhi Toronto and pre Toronto is like a completely different player than post Toronto Kawhi. It’s crazy
Bruh his legacy is load management… that’s in line…
And he's s hof despite you people discrediting him
Tell me you’re under 20 without telling me
@@de5913 I’m 36 dude…
@@MarcoBrolo I agree… but when you bring up kawhi to people… sadly… load management is what will be remembered
Acho sounds like he's lacking things to talk about
No one was scared of Leonard. 😂 Spurs had a super team and deep. Leonard is getting free 💰 💰💰
Naw did put in work though
Spurs did not have a super team bro😂 what is you lying for
He was MVP on one of those Spurs titles
@@MrGroove0221 So. Spurs team was stacked.
@@guiseppejacobs2357Spurs were a great team and deep.
The best two way player since Jordan 😒ummmmm Kobe Bryant my guy
lebron too lol
Kawhi is a better defender
@@MarcoBrolohe’s not a better 2 way player tho
@@MarcoBrolo oh ok Kobe better on offense now what?
@@deuce1454 ^
Acho … I turned it off when he said “we said he’s the best two way player we’ve seen since Michael Jordan” bro nobody said that stop it
No never said that ever
joy got jelous asf when shady said he stayed in relationships my boy got her on lock
Gotta luv it😈
“When he enters the hall of fame and gives his speech”
Kawhi speech:…………….. Thank you
That shot against the Sixers in the second round that bounche off the rim and went in to knock the Sixers out will always be remembered.
Blocked 😂 nb in Philly wanna read this bs 😂
Kobe and D Wade Are 2 Of The Best 2 Way Player Since MJ. Acho Be Reaching!!!!
No he was better defensively than both of him and was more consistent scoring than them both. He wasn’t as explosive scoring as them but defensively he was above both them.
How did Acho become a lead analyst?!?
He got rid of Marcellus Wiley and took over
What legacy did he have to begin with? His first chip he was the Spurs 4th option on the team and only got the FMVP because he “held” LeBron to 28 ppg. 🤦🏾♂️ Imagine getting an award simply because u “slowed”LeBron down enough that he didnt average 35 ppg against u.
Then the only reason he won a second chip was because 2 of GSW’s best 3 players suffered season ending injuries. 🤦🏾♂️
So if we’re going to be real about it what actual legacy does he have?
Facts
💯 I still can't believe people even tried putting him in Bron's category. I'm not even a LeBron fan, and they said him and PG would at least get one chip for the clippers, lol.
He offset lebrons(+,-) with his efficiency scoring.. not just playing defense. He out played his opposition. Well deserved MVP.
Facts bro he got one of the most overrated legacies he was basically Iggy In San Antonio and got fmvp and raptors had a winning record without him got carried all regular season
@peezydabeatmonster8112 yeah plus let's be honest, if KD isn't hurt, the Raptors aren't beating the Warriors in the finals imo.
Kawhi's legacy is already cemented. We as basketball fan, we don't care to what you felt about him...
Load management baby!
This man was 2nd team all nba last year and u comparing him to an injured drose😭😭😭
For reals he shouldnt even be in d rose class he was an MVP
@@marklumar2034 leonard a 2 time
Final MVP aint better than regular season MVP.
@@tigera6you’re right. It’s way better.
@@tigera6 Yes it is, ask James Harden or Russell Westbrook. He has 2 with 2 different teams, put some respect on Kawhi's name.
Speak for yourself Acho! I’m going to remember a 2 time MVP & Champion!
Kawhi is such a heartbreaker…I really wanted to put him in the Top 10!
I swear this show focus on so much negativity. maybe one day shows like this will focus on positive things and up lifting. You can't take any accomplishments some one has achieved. kawhi is kawhi. Lead host on this show is ridiculous to listen to.
How the F was Kawhi, the best two-way player since Jordan? Kobe!
He was
@@d.supreme8592
Not even close , one averaged more points , played better competition and was a better defender .
Kawhi was anointed by the media ( just like Wade) because they wanted to move on from Kobe and LeBron
Kawhis a joke
That one season he was a better defender than Kobe ever thought about being. Plus he put up good numbers on offense
@@therealfinancipationbruh they said Kawhi is a first ballot Hall of Famer 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Bro. Kobe not even rated top 5 on any top 5 articles lol. He's like number 8. Google it
Ruined is too harsh of a word. Kawhi has become one of the most underwhelming players since Toronto
Ain’t never heard anyone compare kawhi to MJ ever😂😂😂
Yes you have.
It doesn't change his legacy its a part of it.
He was only going to play in two games before he sustains an injury 😅
Kawhi is just fine. His legacy is cemented as a great in his era.
Yea a great load manager
Achos take was spot on! Ill remember him as the greatest load manager and creator!
Lebron was 28/7/5 on 57% FG. Kawhi wasn't stopping him at all. Spurs just shot lights out all series.
If Kawhi doesn't add to his resume, he will be remembered more as a trivia question. He will fade away. He doesn't give you anything else to grasp on too...and I think he is cool with that.
When kawhi Leonard was guarded him he wasn't averaging 28 ppg that's why he won finals mvp
I am pretty sure having Tim Duncan behind him guarding the rim has a lot to do with Lebron didnt do well in that Final.
Woj just reported that Bronny is replacing him.
Nah it’s Derrick White
Not the Prince!!
Pa'paa & Bj bringin home that bronze!😭
Pah Pah can I be in the Olympic with you 😂
What happened to go up against the Golden State team with Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson got hurt
Acho said there’s no difference between being bad and hurt get him tf outta there. What are you talking about bro
Not a single person was saying Kawhi was on a trajectory of being top 10 all time nor was he ever the best player in the league.
omg, thank you....
plenty of people were saying that he was the best in the league after he won with toronto dumbo
I was thinking the same thing
Kawhi was definitely the best player in the league. From 2014-2019, kawhi was definitely the best player in the league. No one was better than him. Casuals
At one point that conversation was definitely had.
I used to be a fan of Kawhi but man this dude just doesn't show up for anything anymore goodness
Acho talking like he’s the equivalent of Kawhi 😂😂😂
We Love yall show out here in Brooklyn New York
Kawhi will fall with D. Rose, Tmac, Hill, and Penny as the biggest “what ifs” like Ocho said if Kawhi could just stay healthy he easily gets another DPOY an MVP possibly and a good chance another FMVP.
Umm compared to those guys he reached the pinnacle of mba success . 2 finals mvps are u kidding me ? Defensive player of the year awards ? He brought a chip to North America dude . He has done it all and still plating strong he just has not gotten back to the finals like many others .
@@francisikwueme1688 d rose was an mvp
His legacy is stamped and he has the team and personal accolades to back it up
Acho a wild boy😂 Kawhi is one of my favorite players. He's just Taking measures to be healthy for the season no need to risk the chance of injury
8:46 That pause by Shady was wild.
It's almost like once he realizes the team he's on ain't going to win a championship that year he's like f*** it we ain't going to win this year anyways
I’m slow this is the 1st time I realized this 🥷 be writing intro essay poems😂😂😂
I just wish he could mentor Anthony Edwards. Imagine Ant being able to get to his spots like Kawhi and being as elite on defense
if the question was "did kawhi underachieve in the second half of his career?" then this segment would've been better. unless kawhi had an antonio brown level of off the field issues, then there's no way he could've "ruined" his legacy
I thought that was Patrick Beverly in the clip 😂😂😂
Abd shady callong a golf course a field is wild 😂😂
There was never a time kawhi was better than kobe he was never looked at as the best behind Jordan .
Shady was on point about Leonard just staying quiet.😅😂😂
I think with him there’s always been rumors/speculation that he doesn’t want to play, if he has the smallest ailment he rules himself out of games
when it comes to injury history you can say Brandon Roy maybe but nowhere near Oden
4th option on the Spurs. Won in Toronto bc KD and Klay got hurt after barely beating Philly. Load management and injuries is what I will remember him for.
Somebody was cappin in a segment lol
Emmanuel might just want to go back to the Bachelor series. No one compared Kawhi to MJ.
Sadly man some ppl tried to.
I actually think its good move for Kawai, as much as he is injured... he can take this time to recuperate 100% and get back in the gym to get strong again for next season
Man. Where is y'all WNBA coverage. Angel Reese Made y'all's takes look foolish. When are James and Lady McCoy going to race the 40yards? Someone Bsn
The best ability is availability. Kawhi is not injured he just doesnt play hurt.
His legacy was his laugh, you turned him into a comic. How funny are you guys.
I’m glad joy mentioned that Toronto was right on the doorstep of a ring
shady got me rolling on this segment
When he wins a league, MVP don't switch up
Greg Oden comparisons! Those are fighting words Acho 😂
He sure can play the system. This guy has the best job ever. He's always injured at times when needed. But he has enough energy to continually collect pay while not making himself available to play. Yes he's done great things....but in a minimal way. He never intended to play for USA because ain't no money in it.Thumbs Down
LeNepotism is about to replace him with Bronny 😂😂😂😂
The Fun Guy’s legacy hinged on that bubble year! The thing I hate is if the Clippers won that championship the media would’ve praised Khawi but they bash LeBron for winning it
This why Mike the goat… nobody else was the best player during his reign
Kawhi Leonard is indispensable for every team his god giving gifts is never to be questioned but players like him are very fragile players
THIS CAST IS PERFECT
Nothing can take away what he’s done.
This is a great sports show 👏🏿 📺 💯
Most lethal mid range shooter since jordan was and still is Rip Hamilton
Im with joy on this 1 ‼️
Please correct the title: Kawhi was pulled out, he didn’t drop out...
Im glad James made the distinction about Tom Brady. There were literal rules put in place so that Tom and other QBs could play longer. That doesnt count
To say best 2 way player since Jordan is crazy when Kobe existed between them. Kobe was a better 2 way player for sure
10:26 saying there's no difference between being hurt and being bad is insaaaaaane.
Khawi Leonard 👋 is the Biggest " What If " we have ever seen .... even over T Mac, Rose and Hill
acho just loves talking
It doesn’t take away from Kawhi’s legacy. BUT part of his legacy has to be the load management which has led to several discussions about NBA players being soft because of it
Why do you think he didn't go to the Olympics? He's focusing on his upcoming season with the Clippers. He's also focusing on staying healthy for the Clippers by not attending the Olympics and having the off chance of getting injured. I think it was a smart move.
Kawhi still wanted to play tho. USA and the clippers decided it be better if he didn't. He was just respecting their decision. There's a reason why they wanted him. He's still like that. Legacy is cemented