The Image Quality Conspiracy (and Why You’re Being Scammed)
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Finally CZcamsrs are geting out of the bubble they helped brands create.
he didn't get a sponsorship..
@@vjay4297 False. I'm not hating BUT he does get early access to cameras and other benefits even when there is not a paid sponsorship in place. 95% of the Camera channels do this which is the problem - benefiting while pretending not to benefit. I'm not hating but you need to know when a video is influenced.
@@JeffBourkehow is early access to gear going to influence opinions? It’s just giving you time to get a review ready before the release date.
@@tomsandersonbecause if they put out a bad review, they won’t get early access next time
I’m a bit of a gear and spec addict myself and recently did a shoot that had a proper gaffer. I was COMPLETELY humbled by how I was able to produce the best looking work of my career with my fx30 and sirui lenses, after leaving my C300 M3 at home. Good lighting is 95% of the work.
now its time to be gear obsessed with lighting haha
@@JasonMorrisphotocinemaI entered here looking how not to buy more lights 😂😂😂😂
So you are actually not a good photographer 😇😋. Film and photography are all about light. But you are honest🙏🏼
@@Cooper349My thoughts exactly!
I fooled seasoned RED owners with GH5 footage that was lit well for a commercial. They thought it was RED footage watching the final edit. Lighting is everything. Most people that lean hard on no light/low light cameras will never understand the power of good lighting. Invest in lighting, sure, but also - hire gaffers and grips. They actually know how to use the lighting to get what you want and set things up quickly.
The world in 2024 only needs better Stories, better Audio handling and better Lighting. Nobody cares blurred backgrounds exept youtube nerds. In the 90s movies were totally awesome and there was no 4k 422 1600mbps luts and logs? Think it twice.
This
i still love 80's films and music because of the bad audio and good stories lol
Actually movies filmed in the 90s can be upscaled to 4k/6k (or even 8k if shot on 65/70mm) given that they were shot on film. Plus 422 isn't relevant since film has better dynamic range than digital, So in essence Film shots in the 90s can and does look better and sound better than what most professionals are shooting with today. Plus alot of films in the 90s had a blurry background it just wasn't every scene
90s movies where shot on film, which has a lot of dynamic range, and a lot of resolution
Background blur is literally the cornerstone of the movie industry lol. If movies didn’t have background blur they’d be considered cheap home movies. It’s not something people explicitly mention, but it’s definitely something people will notice.
if you're fuji user, nothing matters - because all of the footage is out of focus anyway
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Diminishing Returns. That's the concept you're talking about.
Recently I have practicing more color grading and my lighting . I am no longer obsessed with cameras . I have owned the a7siii , a7iv fx3 . None of those cameras made my work great or made me famous , why ? Because my skill level sucks ! .
Buying a new camera only feels good for the first few days of getting it …after a while if you don’t have the skills , it will become a junk in your room or bag . I carried around fancy cameras for months without really using them .
Did I also mention that none of those camera made zero financial sense . Took me a while to get out of that debt .
I’ve come to the realization that a lot of ppl just like to complain. I attended photography conventions this year, where I listened to ppl complain about this brand, that brand, and those features. All while they were using an inferior camera to the one they were complaining about. Then you have those that beg for a ton of high end features but only want to pay hobbyists prices 🤦🏽.
I love it “creators” complain about 4k 60p, but 97% of their “content” is viewed on CZcams and Instagram. Dude…it’s downsized exponentially and out of that 97%, 99% are watching on an iPad, iPhone that is only rendering 1080…depending on your cell signal. It’s a joke really. Also, the only reason manufacturers are giving us crumbs is because people keep buying it. Same reason gas had tripled but the barrel price has been relatively the same and processes have become way more efficient. We all need to have the iPhone 5 mindset again…yes. It has a cracked screen…but still works.
I think most people who cares about the quality of their videos are the same people who watch and enjoy watching and consuming them on devices that utilizes the quality. Like Huge tvs or monitors. So maybe alot of average don't care much about it. But at the same time, many loves and enjoys them.
Yup lmao
Like one lovely youtuber from Spain said to another one… “You think that someone, somewhere is watching your content in a 70”, 4K, 120fps screen, while drinking expensive whine???, I think that some dude is watching me while taking a dump” lol, couldnt stop laughing cause I was actually doing that at that specific moment 😂😂
Yes. This is why I made a whole video about 10bit vs 8bit and most people not even needing higher bit depth
Crop does suck when you’re filming in a small space though.
You nailed it - if you don’t have a story, you don’t have an image to present. Doesn’t matter if it’s a still or a moving picture.
Finally, some awareness from key audiovisual figures on this platform. Educating with the right concepts is something that needs to be more of a priority.
I will try do more that's for sure. Thanks
Every inspiring CZcams filmmakers: Camera doesn't matter
Christopher Nolan: IMAX is the best camera
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Thank you for being one of the few to speak the truth. I try to tell people this all the time. In the last 4 years, we've finally gotten to a point where most of the camera contenders are amazing. We're approaching diminishing returns, more people need to learn how to light
100% agree. I'm shooting live streams using an a6400 in low light with an open window behind me at night. I wasn't happy with the image quality and thought a new camera would fix it. Instead I invested in the right lights and placement which has absolutely transformed the image quality.
Well, the reason why you should upgrade your camera like with the Sony ZV-E10-ii is the firmware, compatible accessories, autofocus and easier to LIVE stream. A6400 was great for its time but today, I would not recommend because Sony fixed and upgrade everything on the E10-ii. The E10-ii will easily last another 10 to 15 years now with those major upgrades compare to the a6400, a6500 and a6600.
what you need more is... better scripts, better acting, better directing... those three are infinitely more significant than specs of your camera. I would also note that better lighting technique is more important than any camera you choose.
I totally agree with you, Jason. I used to capture family moments with a GoPro 3+ Black back when CZcams was full of how-to videos on cinematography and lighting. I didn’t know much at the time, but not having an expensive camera didn’t stop me from recording. Then, video reviews shifted focus to high-end lenses and cameras, and I felt pressured to keep up with the latest GoPro and DJI models each year. Did that mean I recorded more? Not really. I just ended up accumulating more gear due to gear acquisition syndrome. Now, people are starting to pay me for videos, but it’s not because of the camera-it’s about the storytelling and my style. Sure, I’d love an FX3 or an FX6, but I can’t afford it at tis time. So far the FX30 does not disappoint. Lighting is the key for this camera. Low light will always be tricky and noisy at times but it still does not stop me. Hopefully if this side gig explodes, then of course will have enough for a low ight camera. The crazy thing is, anyone can rent high-end cameras whenever needed instead of letting them gather dust. My takeaway is If you’ve got a camera gathering dust, getting a new one won’t change much unless you're out there and the job demands it. What’s important is pushing yourself to explore and rediscover your passion for cinematography. I hope to see more videos from CZcamsrs focusing on how to use cameras effectively rather than just discussing specs. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy gear reviews, but like you said, tech advancements are becoming incremental. Sure AI is amazing and I’m a fan. However, I think the focus should be more on content like cinematography, lighting, and storytelling to stay relevant, rather than just the latest gear. At the end of the day, let’s remember that a camera is just a tool. What really matters is the story you have to tell. Thanks again for the great video!
I'm actually looking forward to my cameras depreciating in value because I don't want to take my expensive cameras out, to the cheaper they get the more I lose and the more money worth I need to get out of it personally to make up for the loss in resale value. If only the A7C had 10-bit video it would be the best budget full frame camera.
This is the most honest video that needed to be said by a you tuber. I keep telling my videography friends that they are prioritizing the wrong thing in videography.
I think for the time being things have plateaued. Gear acquisition syndrome is strong and the whole industry supports it. I find myself all too often watching videos about gear instead of how to be better at using what I have. I made a smart move a few months ago and found a deal on a Smallrig 350B for like $350 bucks and have been very happy with that purchase. It's made all my shoots look so much better.
I want to see AI do SMART things that truly help. When I have a shoot for a client i'd love to be able to "show" my camera a few images of the client and teach it to ONLY focus on that subject. My wife is a wildlife photographer who specializes in one type of animal and wouldn't it be great if there was an open source tracking code that she could upload her 10,000 images of that animal and give herself a new tracking mode. We don't need more mega pixels, low light performance, or anything else.
I upgraded from the A7III to the FX30. I wanted a FX3 or the ZV-E1 but I realized the FX30 is perfect for what I am looking to achieve which is getting into professional filmmaking.
The FX30 allows me to ease into that professional space coming from just simply making CZcams videos.
The next step I am focused on is getting the proper lighting gear I need to achieve the look I want as an aspiring cinematographer. From there I’ll move onto an FX3 or even and FX6 if I feel I’ve learnt enough from using the FX30.
Basically I wanna earn my stripes 😄
Yes, digital camera gear for video has finally peaked. For photos it happened nearly a decade ago already. This is why I finally upgraded my digital camera after using 10+ year old gear (Lumix S5 IIx + GX80 coming from Canon 700D + Canon EOS M) because I didn't want to keep chasing incremental updates. I don't think I'll be upgrading for another 10 years now, except perhaps my b-cam if Panasonic ever make another small rangefinder style camera. Better IQ isn't something we need to chase anymore, it's stellar already.
Hi from France, i've been following you recently as a new starter in this business, and you're one of the best content that i've seen on YT.
Thanks for reminding us to use our brain and creativity instead of just have the last released tech.
Fred.
CZcamsr telling us we are wrong when his whole channel is about gear reviews XD
Facts: I'be been fired of THREE productions (yeah, not one nor two) for having switched to the Sony FX30.
The fun part is that they didn't know I changed camera, they ALL noticed and said to me "What the hell is that horrible noisy footage?"
So I bought an FX3 back and suddenly everyone was happy again. So MAYBE not that of a scam.
(and yes, before tolls say it, I learned how to expose it before using it. It was not just powerful enough to handle stressful shooting conditions)
U shot a lot of low light ?
@@AMfilmcreativesIf you watched the whole video, you'll hear the part where he said that the FX30 may not be the right camera for indoors when it's dark and low light situations.
He gave the example of a wedding scenario. It's all about getting the right camera for the right job.
@@khay2210 Come on man, All this "use smaller sensor, it's good enough" is getting out of hand at this point. All these guys are probably payed to say these things for whatever reason. No, worse, smaller sensor cameras aren't as good as full frame high level cameras and difference is noticable, end of story. Nobody needs to jump through all these hoops to somehow make inferior quality look less noticable.
@@khay2210 Well, indeed you're right, but I can SWEAR we saw chromatic noise in well lit daylight situations, like in the shadow of an arm, the shadowside of a wall...
@@xavieryt412 Oh shit, was that even with S Log or just rec709, I mean it really shouldn’t in any of the settings if you had noise in well lit situations, I didn’t even run into such situations with my Canon 90D both while shooting videos or photos even in low light situations, as long as I wasn’t being a dick with it of course.
Sony is known for their amazing low light capabilities so it would be a shame if that was the case, full frame or not.
I partially agree. We are at a stage in technology where we need to beg 4k60 not to come with crop, beg Fx3mkII to come with a built-in ND Filter; where the menus are counterintuitive and seem from the last century... so we have yet to reach the stage where we can accommodate ourselves and accept the technology to invest in the rest. Another thing, this expectation for hardware updates is what makes manufacturers compete with each other and release better updates (despite the competition being very weak), which is exactly why I agree that we shouldn't change hardware with each release, and force manufacturers to speed up and launch better products.
This is still just wanting gear to fix what we already can do. It is always nice to have the best gear for sure but people are losing sight of what matters the most
GREAT video! If you're doing photography, a DSLR with some nice lenses will go A LONG ways as well.
Jason this is so true , it's an unending cycle, there will be different camera releases every year and who suffer ?? Our pockets. You have a great point , invest in lighting and audio and you're good to go!!!!
The thing that brought my filmmaking to the next level was literally Lighting (Hiring a good DP) and lenses (Anamorphic or vintage). I've done all type of work with my Sony FX3, but when I get big projects that require a "pro" look, I already know that I'll be needing a good DP and at least some decent Lenses that aren't your typical stock lenses.
still photography suffers from this same disease- more megapixels, more dynamic range, more more more- and then they take boring photos of fake smiles and plant life. the good news is the rest of us can benefit from much lower prices on older gear :)
Fully agree with u, upskills instead of forever chasing for new gears
Image quality is plateauing, I think right now it’s about delivering high quality specs to hybrid/budget cameras. A7iv has a 60p crop. That’s unacceptable.
I’ve been saying this same thing. Obviously gear matters, but only to an extent. I was getting paid years ago to do video shoots for clients on a Nikon D3400. I mainly shoot on an A6700 these days because it allows me to have a lighter setup but all of my clients are always satisfied.
EVERY camera sensor today is plenty good to capture filmic quality (DR>14 stops-probably THE single most important spec in modern sensors, plenty of resolution)- def lighting/lenses/color correction that define the image. People who think the FX30 (and other APS-C sensors) are not good enough should remember that the newest/greatest Arri is the S35 - APS-C sensor (but with 18+ stops of DR!) The base ISO of the FX30 of 2500 is plenty for all but the extremes- and the FX3 high base of 12,800 is actually noisier than the FX30 at 2500!! No high end cinema camera has a high base of over 3200 - a bit of light is plenty (but not pitch dark/moonlight!)
Absolutely, we are so fortunate to have these crazy effective tools. Our channel, thetrainboard, is about o gauge model trains and chasing down real trains. In our niche, we spend every day using light, sound, and this technology in 4k. A phone is ok but all this technology is way more satisfying, tells a way better story for, in our case, trains. We love the fx30, a7r3, zve1 and now its our time to learn and use what we have. We bought and saved up for years. In our niche, very few creators use this technology. But, we are spreading the word and video. We fully expect more and more train guys will join us down this road. Gary
thanks for commenting Gary. Appreciate it
Great point! My lumix S5ii is way more camera than I need. I have a good tool, now I have to work on skills and techniques. I better invest my time in filming stuff instead of looking for other gear.
S5II really is a solid camera!
I am also a tech fan, and likes everything which has the newest and the most up to date features, but.. I began with iPhone, then A6000, A7III, A7IV and now I think the same as you. The camera is capable for those situations which I need in the fitness industry, lights and composition is everything I need to do better now. And let’s not forget, social media has a huuuge compression, and I can do the best image quality, the best color grading if after 3 seconds we lose the viewer
I totally agree with you Jason, but here's what I think :
If a wedding videographer is already making good money with the FX3 and truly feels like he wants to upgrade to the FX3 mkii for some reasons.. then I don't see the issue here. He probably knows what he's doing, since he's already a successful videographer.. let's not try to convince the guy he shouldn't get what he wants.
The real matter has more to do with people wasting their life playing with cameras just as a hobby, making infinite camera tests.. dreaming of becoming the next Roger Deakins.. but not really making anything real or worthy... not making any money out of it.. but still completely obsessed with camera specs and any kind of gear they ''think'' they ''need'' in order to get their filmmaking ''career/journey'' going, or worthy..
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Big difference with the light on. Great example 👍 I'm loving the tips
I know - spec chasing in camera can become the ultimate excuse for not actually creating content and just running test after test and not remembering the basics you make here - LIGHTING AND SOUND.
I totally agree with your comments about lighting. The difference between a good picture and a great picture is usually lighting. Yet gear is focus of the majority of CZcamsrs because that’s how they make money. However learning to light a scene is a skill that should be mastered before becoming a good photographer or videographer. Regards Gerry
I don't shoot a lot of video (way more stills and the like) and frankly, for probably the first 10 years of my career, I literally used an entry level 10MP stills camera. It had a manual mode, it had a flash shot shoe, and I could change the lenses, it captured more dynamic range than I could realistically print, and frankly, that was ll I needed for the longest time. I still have that camera and know it like the back of my hand and know exactly how to get what I need out of it without even thinking about it, and believe it or not, I still use it all the time, because in this day and age where social is a lot of my business, 10MP is still more resolution than people need.
Cameras within the last 5-7 years can produce good footage, but ultimately,
Lighting is what can create the image. Gear talk is always fun but learning fundamentals will always take your production steps above
Any camera for the past 15y is brilliant and you can take incredible photos with it. The only reasons to get new cameras, beyond the hype:
- old equipment sometimes fail (eg shutter)
- you have some specific needs (eg ultra low light photo/video, high fps, pre capture in sports / animal / thunder)
- you really enjoy evf with actual preview of your images
Beyond that.. take an old D810 or D850 and enjoy
Definitely agree that image quality has hit a plateau, from prosumer to pro level cams. Its about feature sets, color depth, raw internally somehow, and different codecs.
The camera industry has been in need for revolution for a long time now. Every brand's camera is so similar and polished now that only idiots are still fanboys that vouch for one company.
All the companies NEED to put a global shutter like in A9III, eye AF like in Canon R1/R3, compressed 12bit raw recording, 500fps in 1080p and all the tools like waveforms, false color and whatnot in their new cameras for me to even think of upgrading sometime in the future
I bought a cropped sensor camera, thought it would be good enough - didn't like the quality at all. So, what's the issue in wanting the best image quality ? Yeah, I know, a good photograper can work with anything, but I am not some photography prodigy. If you are upgrading from something like point and shoot or a smartphone, you will see the biggest difference with Full Frame professional cameras, otherwise what's even point of upgrading ? Smartphones can also make photos.
0:37 Exactly. I think its reasonable to skip 1-2 generations
great video as always! love the honesty here.
Love the message behind this. I think the main push back would be that commercial production, done in the states, still has specialists. A person who get a 15k gig will typically have a director, they’ll usually be a dp, there will be a gaffer, and a pa, and everyone fills in the other jobs. So if you’re trying to be a DP, investing in lighting would redundant. If you want to be a production/rental house, then yea. Having your own gigs is cool but you’ll never get your full value I feel like. Just some thoughts on the topic
Yeah absolutely. Same thing though is you're needing your tools for specific reasons. Most people aren't haha
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema very true, the first time I hopped on set with a dp that started out as a gaffer, it blew my mind how much you can do with simple lights and flags
So cameras have improved many things over the last few years, but hardest to improve is real DR, where they haven't really done much. Sony's claims that the Fx3 has 15+ stops of DR is technically true, but it's not useable DR and some of it comes from in-camera noise reduction. The true DR of most cameras is around 12 stops, unless you have an Arri, when it's around 14 stops and that sensor is over 10 years old. To me, dynamic range is the biggest limitation of cameras and improvement is very slow there, way too slow to be able to keep selling new cameras, so other things like resolution have come I to play, but ultimately 4K is enough for most things, so that's now over. If someone can bring out a camera with the same dynamic range as a human eye, then I'll really be impressed, but considering that's about 23 stops + "saccades", which is a kind of multi HDR thing we do with our eyes which gives us even more DR, that's unlikely in my lifetime. So while cameras are impressive, they are also still crap, in my view.
Gear is no longer the issue when it comes to making good work. Now it’s the intangibles and what we can do to give a different perspective.
I wish camera makers would focus on innovating and getting equipment out of the way. I don't need spec bumps. I need built in ND filters and incredible stabilization in lower price brackets......that would be WAY more valuable than spec bumps.
Ya lighting and creating a nice scene is pretty much everything but I wish companies would focus more on innovative things that actually get equipment out of the way.
Cameras have definitely plateaued. I recently purchased the Canon R5, even though the R5 Mark II has been released, because it's still an amazing camera in 2024 and it solves the issues I was having with my previous camera. Just as many tech enthusiasts were obsessed with phone specs back in the day, many of us are also fixated on camera specs which seem incremental now. What matters, however, is the experience and whether the tool we have solves our problems.Collectively we have grown use to the idea that the tech we have becomes useless as soon as a newer versionis released, and that is not true.
I often wonder what the photo in photography means.
Fully agree that gear matters less if you have proper lighting, and most seem to forget that concept. Truth be told (and I wish I would have known this earlier on when I started) people should absolutely learn as much as they can about 'Good Lighting'. Study the greats and try to replicate what speaks to them. My video quality went up monumentally after I started to learn to replicate some of my favorite styles of lighting. I was able to do a TON with a very minimally spec'd (8 bit even) camera = aka the zve10. But my issue currently today and now, is that I tend to take so many shots in the craziest, most difficult lighting situations, that I really need to upgrade to minimum, full frame and 10 bit, to better adapt to constantly changing lighting situations. Mind you, I've owned several full frames before (a7c and the sigma fp), but I also need some decent stabilization, which neither of those had at all, lol. Definitely a true run-n-gunner, and the less gear I can have on me the better. But yes, numero uno, learn how to light!!! Lighting is EVERYTHING. I used to say its at least half the battle (GIJOE lol!) but now I am a strong believer that it is indeed most of the battle, and the sooner people get to understanding that, the sooner their images will improve. Honestly took me a little while to fully grasp that. Now every project I do that I can have control of the light, I need to have FULL control and I think I might have even become obsessed with how to control light (to do my evil bidding hoo hoo hoo ha ha haaaaa)
I'm a a6400 user and thinking about getting a second camera just because I don't like changing lenses in the field when hiking or in run and gun situations (had dropped my lens on the ground before)
I mainly shoot stills (mostly daytime landscapes cityscapes and birding with 18-135 11f18 and 70-350)
they did fit my needs but don't want to swap lenses constantly every outing to cover the focal range thinking about getting a 6700
but after doing my research i sort of like those ultrawide to standard focal range (ff equiv 20-50/60/70) to combine with the 70-350 to shrink down the lenses to 2 camera with 2 lenses but there isn't a thing for e mount apsc
So start to think about a lumix s5ii + 20-60 or a m43 body with olympus 8-25 f4 or even panaleica 8-18
I'm also sort of like a gear addict @@
This is a great message but it's shortsighted. Innovation will always keep happening, it's what got us to where we are and it will keep disrupting and manufacturers will keep improving their product to the point where current cameras will need to be replaced or you'll be old news.
I've been at both ends of this, I used to believe I didn't need 4k and only record my stuff at 1080p but eventually we all need to evolve somehow.
Balance is (as usual) somewhere in the middle .. big generational changes don't come with every camera release so I totally agree we shouldn't be changing gear every year for next big thing and we should improve skills and use tech as a tool and not as a crutch but we eventually need to upgrade because tech keeps moving on.
I would focus on hands of experience with cameras and asking yourself:
1. "Im I hobbyist, what is enough for me"? Start from mobile photography/video to do short story to measure your focus, or buy used camera with decant video, what lens is good, find sharp vintage lenses with good aperture, learn basics, not fall into hype trap under social pressure.
2. Am I enthusiast wanting to evolve, what is enough for me at this point of life to save money and have future proof camera. What I want to create defines my gear investments. Focus on content creation, story, interesting visual style"
3. If I am beginner-intermediate professional, earning money, if my gear is good enough, customer dont know difference between old and new?
4. If I am committed professional, and my camera gear is old, then you might buy newest gear if it generaters more value to you?
Personally I am between sections 2 and 3. I have done couple not so good boughts financially and technicly for my needs, simply because of "hype traps" and not getting hands of experience with certain cameras.
Great points here!
Thank you for this video, I find myself stuck in a loop of constant upgrading my gear instead of developing better skills with my current gear. Never touched a camera in my life till 12 months ago, now ive got a A6700 and ZVE1, and still finding myself wanting to sell and upgrade ..........
Now it's time to upgrade other aspects of your game :)
To be honest, companies like Netflix, Prime videos etc that put out a list of "cinema camera" are the reason why consumers are always chasing the latest and greatest. I have the R6ii and the quality is insanely good but for whatever reason it's not on a level of "cinema camera" along with other similar respective models.
Great video bro! Probably the best video I’ve seen on CZcams in a while.
Only thing I'd consider an FX3 mkii for is if it took higher resolution photographs since I don't want to consider a 2nd camera just for photos and I'm not interested in going to a crop sensor like the FX30. Everything else I'd like could (and SHOULD) be made available in firmware updates. Still waiting on the shutter angle from Sony! 🤞
You just dropped a whole lots of wisdom
As a wedding filmmaker, the Canon R6 isn't really cutting it for the image I want to produce - even with proper lighting (most of the day we are battling for decent light). I've been wanting to get a Sony FX3 for a while now but just can't financially justify it. That's why I've been renting it!
For sure. The right tool for weddings is low light and great 120fps. A7SIII & FX3 hits hard here
Bought a GH5II the same week the GH6 was released. Paired with an Atomos Ninja V, for monitoring and ProRes, using (5) 1TB SSD’s. The DMW-XLR1 Audio Adapter, or the ZOOM F3 for 32-Bit Float recording. CAD Super Cardio Condenser Mic, Sennheiser MKE 200 / 400, or AVX Pro with Lavaliers…
Lenses and Lighting are everything. the goto lens; Leica DG Vario-Summilux 25-50mm/ ƒ1.7 or its 10-25mm/ ƒ1.7 twin. For primes; M.Zuiko Digital ED ƒ1.2 Pro trio (17mm / 25mm/ 45mm). Also a set of EF Zeiss CP.2’s with Viltrox Speedboosters…
20MP camera is more than sufficient, cinema cameras were always resolution based anyway, C4K, 10Bit, 4.2.2., 300mbps (minimum). Plus it films 5.6K Open Gate too. Throw an ARRI or RED Lut over the footage and no one would be the wiser..
Literally one of the most virtually criminal economically efficient professional kits possible, with multiple cameras providing additional B and C angles. Had we gone with any other system, the budget would have skyrocketed triple or quadruple times…
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Yes, I think this point is reached.
Most of what comes "new" now is not needed in an essential way. It is more of a "good to have" category, nothing that will decide over success and failure. Of course there might be very specific application cases where this is different, but for the most part: what we have is what we need.
There are of course some fields where you can be sure to see future development, such as global shutter and (for Sony) better stabilization on FF.
I am not a professional and my camera is an A7R III (doing mainly nature/landscape), but I cannot think of anybody who would not be able to get exceptional results with this body and a proper lens. You can pull out so much from it, why would you replace it with something newer? Yes, you could say it does not have 10-bit HEIC for images. Absolutely. Big deal? Not really. Yes, it is 4:2:0 8-bit for video. Video looks very good nevertheless. If I want, I can learn to really get the last bit out of Slog2 footage, the dynamic range is amazing, why would I want to get 8K or 10-bit footage or whatever? All of this requires additional gear that can handle it. Put Slog2 in Rec.709 colour mode and work with that, make things more simple and to the point. Results are not bad in any way.
Even more: I bet if cameras would put their whole sensor data and no skipped lines or whatever into a 1080p file, this would look good enough. It doesn't make sense to push everything forward just because you can. You have bigger files, more demanding codecs and hardware requirements and problems that come with these. I don't really think that all this is really necessary, it just distracts from the main aspect. Every person that is somehow into this whole camera topic knows how easy it is to get lost in specs or gear discussion. That's actually not the point.
The lens on my M10M right now is there because it's imperfect wide open. Glow, vignette and swirly bokeh are awesome creative imperfections that add creativity to my photography.
*People I've learned think that because their Favorite YT/ Vlogger/Cinematographer use it that it's a camera they should use w/o understanding that the person behind those camera has been using those types of Camera's for Years as it's always going to be 100% the user. If you don't have the skillz then don't buy the camera. I Bought the FX30 and Yeah I'm not a Cinematographer but I love this camera because it's more video focused and that's what matters more to me, so I sold my ZV-E10 & ZV-1 so I could get this and I LOVE this camera and it gives me everything I want and need. If and when the FX30 vs2 Comes out if it has something I don't have in mine and is a benefit to me, if not then no. Nice Video again with Loads of Info*
Only reason I want the R5 or r52 is autofocus. Otherwise image quality has reached a peak and most cameras u can't tell them apart and u can't get good images
Same thing can be said for the laptops and computers we make this stuff on.
Apple is about to launch m4 macs and they'll try to make you think your m1,m2 or m3 Mac isn't good enough. Unless you have some kind of specific use case or there's something truly wrong with your current computer, you shouldn't be upgrading.
gas , gear acquisition syndrome is a real thing
Youre right. I dont need a FX3 Mark II, but I do need a second FX3. And thus I am waiting for Mark 2. A firmware update might do it, but wont happen. I like RAW from my Atomos, but hate the workflow. I do see a difference. I also like the 4.2 instead of 4.0. Also with noise reduction the final result is better. Thus I really request X-OCN as soon as possible internally, since it would make everything so much easier. I do think for this you may need to change the heat structure or storage system. But its definetly doable and state of the art. But you are absolutely right! FX3 is still a blast. Most impact is lighting. But I dont always have controlled situation. 12 Bit is just so nice. And yes FX3 can already do it....but ooohhh that workflow for Davinci resolve...
We don't need an FX3 II but want it for sure haha. Honestly X-OCN is something I have really been wanting mainly for accurate white balance correction. Thanks for your comment
For sure the FX3 will last another 10-15 years easily due to the camera having 10-bit colors, superior autofocusing and 4K resolution. Only reason why you would upgrade to an FX3-ii is if the camera has 8K resolutions and is a Global Shutter. I do want a Global Shutter sensor now so that I can get ride of banding from those cheap lights at wedding venues. Camera technology have advance again due to Global Shutter. So now, Im waiting to see how Sony is going to revolutionize their next-gen Alpha cameras with Global Shutter sensors.
For filming humans, probably not. You don't need the sharpest, most critically clean camera and lens. For filming wildlife for example, it's another beast. You need the best of the best as much as possible.
"Actually" doing some heavy lifting here.
Direct camera tech is plateauing, so I think manufacturers are going to start falling back on the thing that makes smartphones so attractive to casual photographers and non-gear focused content creators: convenience.
Once a piece of gear comes along and minuses the amount of time and effort needed to do what you need it to, that will start to take some of that market share. The convenience of having the camera do ALL the work is a powerful marketing tool.
At the moment, there's only one company that I can see doing that first with traditional cameras if they decided to make one, and that's the rumoured DJI mirrorless. They've done it with Drones, gimbals and Vlogging, and they're taking away some of GoPro's share for action cams.
But you're 100% correct though. Great lighting can make even the worst sensors shine!
The only two or three cameras that have a significant jump in image quality hasselblad and GFX cameras. You will see a definitive image improvement in those cameras but the majority of full frame cameras and crop sensor cameras. You will not see a significant improvement even from a Nikon Z8 to a NikonD850 you won't see a huge improvement .... If you've ever used a hasselblad or a GFX camera, you'll know what I'm talking about but if you haven't, then you won't understand it.
I've been using an a7iii for both photo and video work. despite the video being 8bit and only 4k 25p it is amazing in ext environments and has a really nice filmic quality with the right lenses. My FS7 is fantastic despite it being s35. I think it actually has a better sensor and more dynamic range than the fx30 and I have had no complaints from any of my clients while using it. We are already past the peak in the pro-consumer market for nearly five years. Most clients don't really care as long as the image is atleast high quality HD, high quality sound and the narrative/editing flows.
Spot on Jason! You mind if I ask you what aspect ratio you used? is it 1.85:1?
i use 2:1 aspect ratio and have done for maybe 3 years now
I’d disagree only if the person you’re talking to does mostly docs. I’d say 90% of doc clips are uncontrolled lighting environments. So relying on a camera with a high DR and low noise in low light is kind of really advantageous. I’m not saying it’s everything but it does help substantially if the two cameras we’re talking about are let’s say a Canon 80D vs a Sony a7siii. Your point is 100% valid if the two cameras are an FX3 and an FX3 ii though.
Hence the point of right tool for the job. I mentioned if you need to rely on the camera and sensitivity then absolutely get that tool that helps you achieve that
I only have the 5dmk2 and ef35f1.4 it still rocks even I have been tempted many times to buy the new mirrorles.
Lighting > camera
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This is why I just bought the RS4 after years of using the original Ronin S. I went for it for the vertical native plate. It just became exhausting shooting on a gimbal in vertical and not being able to properly do it without spending 15 minutes setting up.
Oh mang, even the RS3 is still a huge jump from the Ronin S. I too held onto my Ronin S for 5 years and finally updated to the RS3. Hori sheet, the innovation and creativity that DJi did for the RS3 really makes it so much more convenient and better to use. I thought the Ronin S is all I needed but I got fed up with the difficulty of balancing it and always using my smartphone to calibrate it.
But with the RS3, everything can be done on the gimbal due to that 1.5-inch touch screen. It makes life so much easier and its lighter!!
@@harryvuemedia5106 Yeah I haven't had a chance to use the RS4 professionally yet, but having had it for several days and doing tests, I can already tell just how much easier my life is going to be with setup now.
Yup. I agree 100%. Resolution has been great for a while now. Speaking of lighting i feel like i could recird something great with my old micro 4/3 epm 2.
*On the Photo side of things, Cameras have plateaued a long while now ever since Mirror less came in. It's either High MP or Medium MP, fast workflow or detailed workflow. High quality image deliverables or Medium image quality deliverables that convey the message accurately, not the MP because most images are destined from Socials that accommodates 1.2MB at max sometimes.
*On the video side, I think the manufacturers are taking the piss, many codecs, various methods of using the codecs, then limitations on said codecs for high ISO or base ISO Open or S35. Then there is the form factor. No one complains that all PhotoCameras have the same basic shape, but VideoCameras are taking the piss, pushing the creator to invest into even more accessories to make the gear work efficiently.
oh absolutely agreed here. Photography plateaued for sure. Minor upgrades just makes the photographers job slightly easier
Lot of ppl buy new gear for the high they get and for the feeling it gives them more credibility. YT channels make money promoting gear so you have to take that into account. Best not to impulsive buy.
It’s always been light, story and audio. You are capturing light. Improve the light …..
You need to be better than your cameras for the upgrade to make sense. Most peeople think that better specs means better photos/videos :)
Them FX3 Mk 2 "hypothetical" mentions are no good for my wallet
Hi Jason, as always very great content on this video ! :)
But the question that's come to my mind after that is : What is the best lighting kit to invest in right now ? 😂
Keep up the good work :) !
The one you can afford haha. I just went the Amaran route because of value and ecosystem
I'm just getting back into the hobby and really it came down to Full vs. non-full framed and cost. I ended up with the Canon R8 for that reason mostly. But the Sony "cheapest" full frame was almost as cheap when you compare the lens cost. The thing that tipped it for me was being able to use an ef adaptor and keeping the great auto-focus on the Canon. I think it is the little things in cameras these days.
I also got an R8 but want to "upgrade" to the FX3, I was thinking an R5C at first, I haven't invested in a lot of glass yet, so I wanted to make the switch but I'm still thinking about it
@@nerrd_ish I think if Canon opened up their RF to 3rd party there wouldn't have been such a decision for me.
On youtube 18 year old obsolete DSLR`s get promoted like it`s the latest tech. That`s also a problem. Nobody gets wiser watching crap like that.
They say it`s for beginners. I think it will put you off right away, it`s old crap and luckily we got something way better right now.
I can safely say, that i have outgrown my FX3 by now. Sounds weird since they're shooting "the creator" like films on this beast, BUT i am so done with CFxpress Type A cards and no internal ND. besides that? I love this camera and it will stay as a B-Cam. =)
WHo cAReS ABouT tHE GeAR? Thanks for the reassurance so everyone can be left behind on the timeline of present day tech advancements. Great left turn👍 less competition. Next video you should tell people to be satisfied with editing in inefficiency resolve
You say this, then you lose a client to a trust fund baby that follows your trail for years with 3x your gear budget and does it all for less because their dead dad is still paying their mortgage with lawsuit money.
Hopefully my FX30 paired with the 16mm sigma prime lense lasts me forever till the FX30 mark 2 launches LOL 😅
But they all said the new camera was a game changer.
I am wondering if there is big difference between a7iv and fx3/a7s3/zv1 because a7iv was looking quite digital with crushed mushy shadows
Nope, looks the same, IF you expose correctly. Of cos ISO values aperture etc etc will be different but if you expose correctly with proper lighting like what he said, nope
@@ivantanzh17 then there is big difference between them and Blackmagic or red komodo. Sony looks very digital
The only new game changer is the Panasonic internal 32bit float and maybe the new Sony global universal Galaxy shutter camera thingy that's coming out but even then that's ok
Just set gain properly
Hi - what kind of microphone/recorder are you holding in your hand while lying on the sofa? Is that just a prop or a real recording unit?
It’s the Sony ECM- S1 podcast mic
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Thanks for sharing - i am a microphone addicted person but didn't recognize such a podcast mic :-)
Videographers only getting filters and 3d/post process lights since not every video needs "perfect lighted models". Stories don't really matter anymore since people would rather buy mythologies and high fantasy that's crap in cinematography sometimes rather than "serious" self promoting content.