Our Livestock Guardian Dog Has A Problem | What We’re Doing To Fix It
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- čas přidán 11. 01. 2021
- Moses is our Livestock Guardian Dog in training. We wanted to give you an update on him, and how he is doing. Moses is starting to enter his adolescent stage, and beginning to test a few boundaries with the animals. If you are new to raising LGD's, don't freak out when this happens, because it will happen eventually. Especially if you are raising a LGD puppy without an experienced LGD already on the property. We are taking extra precautions during this crucial part of his training. We hope you find the video informational if you've found yourself in the same boat as us.
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As a retired Military Working Dog Handler/trainer, you have a pretty solid plan in place. Only thing I would suggest is to ensure your training sessions are short and frequent, he is still a pup, and they end on a good note. Training a dog is training a dog. I defiantly understand the desire to learn from someone that trains livestock guardian dogs.... Fact of the matter is, there are countless ways to get a " desired behavior", who is to say its wright or wrong as long as the end result is the desired behavior.....
I've trained a few dogs and I just look for what drives that particular dog. Some are food driven, some it's toys and some lovins.
@@rogerflanigan6427 what drives a good livestock guardian dog is to protect/guard the flock. Ideally they are partnered with an experience adult dog who can model good behavior and correct the pup when necessary. but, at least this homesteader is trying to nip negative behavior in the bud. But breeding tells...
He is the same size as the goats now and he sees them head butting and playing. So he wants to play too❤️ You are doing a great job‼️❤️👵🏻❤️
Always thinking of how you can help others. There are no experts here just a family of like minded people who help and inspire others. Moses is great hands of caring parents. 🐾🐾💞
Thank you Jennifer
That’s so true Jennifer!
NO MOSES , YOU CANT HAVE THE KEYS TO THE CAR !!!
Lol
🦅 Great job Alex & Jacob. Moses is learning very well. When I first moved to Texas, I brought with me my service dog who turned out to be a fantastic LGD. One night she heard something out in the pasture and left the house on her own. It was a few coyotes out near my sheep and she took off to handle that. My two rams joined her and she tried to get them to return to the herd but they stood their ground and the three of them sent the predators on their way. After that night, the rams stayed with Sarah whenever she walked the fence but not before putting the does and lambs up in the barn. I marveled at how she worked and allowed the rams to help her. Sarah was a collie shepherd mix and came from LGD stock. She came to me at the age of ten months so she had some instruction from her parents. Sarah was as good a service dog as she was LGD.
You are training Moses right. From what I have seen, there really is no need for the e-collar but, I would still get one for the back burner. Moses may not ever need it but, if you get another LGD puppy.. it might be needed. Don't want to take to much attention away from the goats for him to correct the puppy. Just a precaution measure.
Keep up the great work you do with Moses and Judah. It is paying off with dividends.
GOD BLESS YOU ALEX AND JACOB AND MOSES AND JUDAH.🦅
Thank you Rusty pepper sounds like you got a pretty good dog.
🦅 @@SawyerRidgeFarm She was a great dog. Sarah past at age 13 from snake bites... Vet told me it was multiple snakes that got her. Our rams and does mourned her for a few months but they stayed close to her pup Shadrach. I lost him to a thief who had stolen a few LGD's in our area. I had to leave for a while...🦅
We had a livestock guardian dog before I was born. I was raised working the animals with her.
My dad also raised and trained registered hunting dogs from before I was born until I was in grade school. We were all involved in the process... so I learned how to train dogs without realizing it.
Our livestock guardian dog died when I was in late elementary school. We went through a few puppies after that that didn't work out because my dad wasn't able to have the time to train them.
We got one when I was in high school. She would go with me when I ran and I worked with her then. She protected me from other animals, kept out of my feet/path, learned the term that she was too rough, as well as the normal- sit, stay, no... I had to be with my dad and brother then to teacher her how to help with the animals. After time she would go out with my dad to move the animals as well as her usual perimeter protection.
I would go sit in the pasture with my reading books to spend time close to her. It was at that time that I would correct or praise her accordingly .. but I always had my book to focus on to just be there when I didn't need to be focused on her.
Brooooo! Those cinematic shots were LEGIT!
Moving up in the world lol
The beginning has a serene feel. Even when Alex was touching the goat, you can feel her beautiful energy. Great video, guys. Love how you work with the dogs. No need to apologize. ;) ♡
Thank you! 😊
EXCITED FOR THE MEET UP MAY 22 2021
Looks like you are doing great with Moses. Loved the intro.
What I see is that Moses is doing well. I trained three dogs to protect my foul. This stage of a dogs development was the hardest to get through. Mine were just looking for playmates but like you stated that is NOT OK. Dogs like children just need love/discipline, looks like he will get through it just fine.
PS; one of the dogs I trained was a Rottweiler, he was the best dogs I have ever had for protecting my foul. He was just a natural, once he got past the puppy stage.
Good luck and God bless
You shouldn’t have any haters , Your doing what right and doing a good job.
❤intro... my goodness he's grown so much...
He's still very young at 6 months...sounds like he's coming along well for still being a puppy! Even if yall were there 24/7, you can't not get work done to watch him, I think you're doing a good job with him!
Jacob you are doing the right thing. Putting him in a kennel run where he can see the animals run around him is a very good thing. If you need a training tip look at Upstate Canine University on CZcams. The man teaches dogs to behave so they do not wind up in shelters. The man also teaches the words "Leave it" to stop interactions around other dogs and should work the same as the other animals. Moses is just a young one, you are doing it right. I have not trained a livestock dog but had to teach ours to quit messing with the cat. My command in a stern voice was "Leave Alone" and my dog got the message. Keep up the good work with your "teenager" and he will be just fine.
You are doing a great job of training Moses. The only idea I have is your timing of your praise when going through gates. You are telling him he is a good boy when you release him from the sit and not for the actual sitting. He obviously knows what you want. I talked to a dog trainer and she said the key is to train (reward) the behaviour you do want. So yes you don't want Moses to play with the goats but what do you want him to do instead? Train for that. Do you want him to go up to a goat and sit, lay down, grab a toy instead. Whatever you decide is what you train him for. So the idea is to focus the training on what you want him to do and not on what you don't want him to do. I hope that is clearer than mud. Keep up the great work and keep us posted.
how to train a guardian dog with animals.
Start to leash train your puppies (also in my free guide). Let them see the livestock through the fence and see how they react to them. Work on keeping them calm around the livestock with obedience training. You want to learn your dogs' body language so that you can prevent them from acting excited
That seem to me exactly what He is doing. The dog is still a Good puppy & will need training until he is adult dog as other are using a guard dog to a Great advantage as they can't really be replaced with the protection they can offer the Goats Or animals. He doing a great job!!!
You guys are doing great with Moses. He is a great dog. It makes complete sense why you are making these adjustments. Nipping questionable behavior at the start is key. Thank you for being transparent. You are doing what is best for Moses and the goat herd.
I could sit and listen to your opening music for hours. Beautiful and peaceful music.
Thank you! 😊
Good that you nipping it in the bud. Like you said he's gotta be taught wrong from right. GOD BLESS Y'ALL.
You guys are doing a great job, it will get Better for him just takes a little time keep up the good work.👍
Thank you Duke
It takes time...yes, we are all busy...yes, it is not always "fun" to train an animal...but if you do not put in the time...don't get angry with what you have.
You care for your sweet animals. He loves you, enjoy seeing the training.
I love seeing Moses and the other animals
Very good job with Moses. Love the intro as well!
Thank you Tim.
You're on the right track! Puppies will be puppies and they have to be trained and you're doing a great job with him. Running after animals is play that will lead to killing, killing is natural for dogs and without training, any dog can become a killer. That doesn't mean they're a bad dog, they just untrained and don't know any better. Moses is going to be a great livestock guardian dog with the training you're giving him.
Also, being in a pen is not abuse, it's the way to keep them safe and with him being let out of the pen with his humans is quality tie!
Moses is smart, he'll figure it out
Good job. You are a responsible dog owner.
I always thoroughly enjoy the beginnings of your videos seeing the animals and hearing the pleasant music and seeing the two of you do your chores around your farm.
So happy you enjoy our videos Darlene
You are doing a great job, I totally understand the need for keeping him separated until he understands! 👍
Thank you Auntie Ann
You are doing a great job with Moses. Like you said he is in his teenage years and wants to play. He just needs to learn there is a time and place for that. It won’t happen overnight and you are doing what needs to be done so he has a happy productive life on your farm. Love the turtle shells.
YOU ALL ARE DOING WONDERFUL!!!
Great job.
Thanks for sharing.
Moses will learn! he is a smart dog & responds well to your awesome training. Right now a 6 month old hasn’t figured out why he can run, chase, roll & tumble with Judah, but not a goat. Like a cattle dog he will soon know when he can play & when he is at work. Good job Jacob & Alex in caring & investing your time & efforts- they will pay off. God’s Blessings to you.
He's the dog equivalent of a teenager with the understanding of a 5 year old.. Bored, full of hormones, & wanting to play. Pushing all the limits to find where the walls are. A older LGD would put him in his place faster than the older nannies would, but he doesn't have that teacher. His humans have to repeatedly stop him until he follows them in his sleep. Rewarding the good, stopping the bad behavior. Chasing is a instinct and even in breeds that have been bred for LGD work for hundreds of years, their older pack members stop them and they see others being stopped too. It takes at least a full year on the farm of learning and monitoring before they can be trusted fully. What Jacob is saying is not unusual. Stopping the behavior instantly is the only way to stop it. 10 min later and Moses won't understand why he's being told no. Good job trying to explain it to non farm, non working dog people.
Thank you Jayne for understanding!
Keep up the great work with Moses!
YES, HE IS A GOOD DOG. THANKS TO YOU BOTH. !!!!!
Keep doing what your doing. You guys are doing a great job.
People need to remember the goats can get stressed out. You guys take great care of all your animals.
Moses is looking so good now! Great video!
Thanks for sharing the challenges. He's still a pup and so smart! I'm sure he understands that you love him as you show him the corrections. He'll get it!
I respect and admire y'all for researching and working on correcting this behavior. Every dog needs training regardless of their job. Moses sure is beautiful and with all that tail wagging, very happy!! ❤
I love that you show not only your dog's good behaviors and behaviors you want discouraged. But, also how you train him to correct him so he knows what your expectations are. Keep up the good work.
You guys are doing a good job with Moses.
You are doing great, like how you make him stay as you go through doors and different areas. You are doing all things great
You are doing what you should, good job!!!!
Thank you for focusing. Love you all .Nip it in the bud.
I think you are doing exactly right! Keep up the good work. What you are saying makes good sense.
Great job
Y'all are doing a great job. You are doing whats best for your animals. God bless gou.
Doing a great job with Moses. Y'all are wonderful with your animals. Very beautiful place you have
I have heard of this training several times! So I completely agree with your training method!
You are doing a wonderful job with your animals, especially Moses and Judah. Any haters probably don't have dogs, or at least a working dog. Moses' being a teenager or preteen is a good analogy. Baby goats love to jump around, so he doesn't need to be "playing" with the kids.
Thank you Mary glad people can understand this.
You're doing a great job. Keep up the good work.
Great job with Moses!
Great video. God Bless u guys.
Goodmorning Jacob and Alex good to see y'all this morning. Moses is getting big really enjoyed your video we get it he has to know the difference of whats right and whats wrong y'all are doing a wonderful job with Moses and Judah. Cant wait til the next video much love to you both...😊💚💛
I think you guys are doing a Great job with Moses. He is still a puppy and ALL puppies need to be trained.
You are doing a great job.
Great job..
Being he is still in the puppy stage..can you sit with him for a bit with the goats and correct him with a firm NO when he starts to chase a goat. Then continue to keep him in that separated area until he learns chasing is not allowed. I see we are both on the same page to correct the behavior
I can tell you do your research, dogs need a good teacher and you are doing a great job. God bless you both.
Thanks
Great job 👍
My granddad would put his puppy on a leash about 10 feet long and the other end to his older nana and let the walk round for two hours a day until the puppy got the idea
That’s funny - and reminded me of something. My friend used to clip the leashes of his two smaller dogs to each side of his big (well behaved) older dog’s collar and the big dog would take the little dogs on a walk each day.
You're doing a great job.
It's just a process of learning, you are doing a great job with his training.
He's still a pup even tho he looks almost grown, and making a good looking dog too. You are doing a good job with him. It takes kindness, persistence, and consistant handling until they mature. The time you spend now will pay off down the road, big time. Some are easier than others! One thing that might help, is always picture in YOUR mind, what you want him to do, the positive thing, not what you DON'T want him doing. They understand the picture in your mind, so keep it positive. Very hard to do sometimes! Hang in there! I enjoy your videos, always!
Yes I agree cheryl
I think what your doing is great!! Moses has to learn and your his teacher! This is normal not cruel !! good job correcting the problem!! He will catch on as he has everything else!
Good analogy
I think he’s on the right track just has a lot of puppy energy to work through. I like the way he was walking the fence and sniffing when he heard the other dogs. Y’all are doing a great job.
Very well explained about the training for Moses thx . Just like teens lol . What a handsome dog he is . Your a loving dog owner . 💕🙏💕
You guys are putting out great videos, love watching your channel! You guys have come a long way with your channel, you both are so much more comfortable being on camera now. Keep it up! Stay safe, love you guys!
Thank you Deonna
l think u r doing the right thing to Moses he will learn this in his time keep up the good work Jacob and God bless u
Great video!
LOOKING FORWARD Too ThE MEET UP IN MAY 22 2021
I love the turtle shells!! Alex that’s pretty creative! Great editing! Always a fan of your channel!
Thank you Amy!
@@SawyerRidgeFarm did ya'll make those? A how to video would be great!
Well done your taking the time to retrain instead of getting rid! I love what your doing. Don't doubt yourself slowly retrain it all helps goodluck x
Your doing excellent with Moses
Handsome dog! Good training
Great explanation on how to train your young guardian dog. Anyone who has had a young dog around animals knows that they love to run and chase. This is absolutely a habit that needs to be addressed right away. Keep up the good work, love your videos. Happy New Year.
Thank you jen
Love Moses. He is really growing and is a beautiful dog. You guys are the best!
It’s wise to keep our pets in check. I could learn to do it more with mine.
But I don’t have farm animals, well I do, I have 1 yes just one chicken. She has no she is a chicken. Lol
She just showed up in my front yard one day 1 1/2 years ago. She was just a new baby chick and was in my flowerbed.
I live in a neighborhood and as far as I know no one has chickens. But someone did, now I do. Built her a place out back and she follows me around the yard like a puppy. Her name is Marilyn and I even bring her in the house when it gets below freezing. Lol. She, my cats and dog all get along fine, craziest thing ever. I do keep her in a big dog pen at night in the house and cover her up with a blanket so she can have privacy. Lol.
What I life I have. Now I retired 5 years ago, I never dreamed I would have all these animals. But I do and I love animals and they are very loving back.
Hug that Moses for me. He is going to be a huge asset to your home. ❤️❤️❤️
Good video you explain it well.
Hope all gets worked out for the both of you and the dogs and goats. God bless you both .
You guys are doing a fine job it might look horrible for some people but you guys are doing the right thing in my eyes
Great camera work. Can tell you’re loving the camera 💗🇬🇧
Thank you Alex!
Right every video just keeps getting better
I'm so behind on everyone's videos ... but MAN y'all's videos have gotten even better! Very professional looking! And, as always, so informative!
Thank you so much Rachel! 😊
You and Alex are doing a fine job, I respect and appreciate your honesty and making this video, I wish you much success with Moses and Judah.....GOD BLESS
Thank you adela
I wonder if that behaviour was encouraged when he found how much fun it was playing with your other dog. He learned quickly it was fun to tussle with another animal. Now it should be the same way with his goat friends. I can see his confusion. Good training I know you can do it. Keep everyone safe. God bless.
Great job your doing the right thing. Keep up the good work. Super video many thanks for sharing. Chris from England.
Your doing a good job keep it up.
Your doing a great job training him would like to see more videos. God bless
I think your doing great with Moses. I think his so cute and smart.
Your video opening was beautiful. Great camera work. You are doing a good job with Moses. Best wishes.
Thank you Gayle!
You guys do an amazing job with your animals!
Thank you George and Melanie
Moses, you rock fur bubby, Keep up the good work.
Jacob and Alex...love the channel. You both are good loving puppy parents and we all know that. Do what you think is best. Always remember what other people think about you is none of your business.
Thank you Donna
I trained our pyrenees/anatolian the same way. Only thing I added was a collar with a remote. Only had to use the buzzing sound to break him. He is 1 1/2 yrs old now. Now I am training a akbash/anatolian to add to the herd. The older dog is actually correcting the younger pup now. It is very exciting to see. You all are doing an awesome job!
Thank you so much so glad to hear this. It gives me reassurance what I'm doing. I really appreciate your comment.
Very good video... I can see you care very much on his training and role on the homestead 😁👍🏼
Thank you Greenhorn
He is a beautiful dog.
loved the start of the video! I have no idea how to train a dog ( my 3 sleep with me and my husband, I'm a bubbling idiot around dogs, I love them so much) but it looks to me like that dog is very lucky to have you guys. Great video!
Thank you sherry
One thing I noticed is your reward of an enthusiastic "Good Boooyyy!" gets him excited. I know you want to praise and emotionally reward him for doing the right thing. However, perhaps there is a way to reward him in this training phase without the auditory cue, and see if it keeps his energy level down.
The other suggestion I would make is to exercise him outside of the goat enclosure. Moses is bursting with energy. The combination of getting him outside the enclosure might become an outlet for his excitement, and couple that with a long, tiring walk (perhaps while you bike), or as he looks like a puller, give him some sled / wagon pulling exercises. I realize he has free reign of an enclosure, but that is not the same as having a good, high-intensity workout for burning energy.
Bingo, you nailed it. Very well said. If Jacob takes your advice, he will have great success.
Thank you for this. We just acquired 2 Anatolian Shepherd / Great Pyrenees puppies that are 10 weeks old. This is great information to help us train them.
Your welcome, thank you for watching our video.