bob loblaw0413 there are proof that America is modern day Nazis land.....openly racist towards Natives just like Nazis were openly racist towards the Jews....
I don't understand. If you protest...you don't have a job because you're at a baseball game during working hours? So if I am attending the game midday...profit? It's not a good look when you say something isn't racist and you liking it has nothing to do with race. But then you proceed to mock another race with racial stereotypes and caricatures.
I really wondered if that guy who yelled "get a job" was even aware how stupid that was to say, when he is also obviously not at work either. It's about the dumbest thing to say to any protester ever, considering we don't know what days/hours that complete strangers work. Angry racists- not the smartest bunch
Why not just pass by and ignore them? There is no need to hurl insults and swear at these people. They are demonstrating something they are passionate about. Why can't people respect that? They were hurting no one and not impeding traffic in any way.
Because they're not from Cleveland they come to our city to protest our sports team and they're not even from here that's why they don't like them and get called names dumbass
It's such a shame they gave in and changed the name to the Guardians. The name Indians was not of any offense and it should've stayed that way, and Chief Wahoo was cool. Not sure why the Native Americans are upset.
Utterly embarrassing for our city. I don't agree with changing the name but do with getting rid of wahoo, but for them to openly mock their heritage with fake native american war cries, cuss them out, flip them off, and just the general idiocy towards people to whom this land belonged to first from the descendants of folks who took their land and murdered their people is just so sad. What a terrible indictment on this portion of Cleveland Sports fans.
Robert Safier happens every year on opening day and it has worked. this is last year the tribe will be wearing wahoo on uniforms probobly for the best.
@jjcp292 lol, no. I observe the weekly body count that continues to rise in Chicago, Detroit, and Baltimore. School shootings don't even come close. Please tell me what I look like. You couldn't spot me if I was standing right beside you due to your brainwashed perception.
It's at 4pm on a weekday, so they're clearly not at work, whereas the protesters are actually out doing something productive, these people are skipping work (if they have any) to watch a sports game, and to be honest, judging by the behaviour of some of these people I doubt they can hold a job for long anyway.
I don't think that guy knows what Marxism is. I would venture to guess he also doesn't understand how to fully operate a can opener too so I don't want to expect much of anything from him. Keep it classy people of Cleveland who are able to make it to a 4pm game on a workday. I think we should get them in trouble, lets go to the strip clubs and bars and give the owners a piece of what their people are doing.
ejais It was a handful of knuckleheads responding to another knucklehead yelling at them with a bullhorn. Does not represent the other 40000 that were in attendance
O Great Spirit of the South, whose warm breath of compassion melts the ice that gathers round our hearts, whose fragrance speaks of distant springs and summer days, dissolve our fears, melt our hatreds, kindle our love into flames of true and living realities. Teach us that he who is truly strong is also kind, he who is wise tempers justice with mercy, he who is truly brave matches courage with compassion.
i hope some of those people see themselves on this video and realize how wrong they were and go out there and appologize to those native americans ... for disrespecting them in light of them already feeling disrespected ... smh!
What is wrong with people??? Is there that great a disconnect that they can't look at this and see how truly offensive it is? I give up on humanity.....
If Native protesters play their cards right , I can see this video being used successfully in the fight to change the Washington Redsk*ns name. This very video completely destroys the argument that the r*dskins (and Cleveland Indians fans themselves) mean no racism, based on the sheer volume of racist fans observed in the video. All my respect and love goes to Native Americans ♥️.
The problem is most Native Americans don't care about team nicknames and such. It's just something the shinny libs want to cry about in hopes of getting more votes.
10-15 people is a highly-reliable statistical representation of a region of 3.5 million. Great job mathing. No one I know is really like this, and if they were I would likely choose not to know them anymore.
Mj F So, they've been protesting for approximately 20 years. That's 20 x 10 or 15 different people per year. Still doesn't even come close to 3.5 million.
Why you gotta drag black folks into your argument SMH you could've said any other race lol I swear folks like you can't keep black folks out of your minds
@@smoothcriminal4038 I'm black and she made a point stop being sensitive because we would be outraged if somebody used something like Uncle Ben or Aunt Jemima as a logo like back in the day the Natives Deserve the right to be outraged and have that logo changed
Justin Johnson First off I doubt you are black Because that’s the go to troll tag line ( I’m black ) 😂😂 plus I’m not sensitive I’m just saying do to the fact that a white man named the team that and it’s some white people who seems to not think it’s a problem why not use another race as an example lol don’t you think we done put black people through enough that is of course if you’re really black.🤔😂
Smooth Criminal It disgusts me that some black people don't see the wrong in this. Why? Because a lot of you have gone through the same kinds of racial discrimination.
You should hold your head down as well. This is a United States problem, not just Cleveland. Don't generalize based on the actions of a handful of losers.
William Wharry I don't need to hold nothing down in shame. When people go to sporting events in their city, they represent their city. Their actions reflect on their city and they did this knowingly that they were being filmed and it would be all over social media. They had no problem letting their ignorance, bigotry, and racism shine for all the world to see. Assholes like this are like children, the actions of children reflect on the parents, the actions of these individuals reflect on the entire city.
William Wharry You should re-read your first statement when it comes to generalizing. The actions of the few "DO" reflect on the many. Never did I say all of Cleveland but yes they should be ashamed and embarrassed by these individuals because it does paint the the majority in a bad light. Do the actions of bad police represent all police? No. Does it paint police in a bad light? Yes.
Just saw the clip, yet the footage is old. And, it's edited to only show the RESPONSES from the fans. I won't "Hold my head down in shame" as I have been there Personally and seen these interactions. What you're seeing is a Bait and Switch, a Call and Response edited version to promote an agenda. That is the Truth. Are people idiots? Yes sir! Did they respond Poorly? Yes sir! Do you get to see the insults thrown to provoke those responses? Nope. Having seen this first hand, I suggest you report on the thousands that just walked past the verbal abuse that you don't see.
@@jasonclark9963 How is chief wahoo offensive? It attacks the cultural heritage of the native Americans and destroys native pride." James Fenelon, a researcher and member of the Dakota nation, has described Chief Wahoo as an "unambiguous racial icon meant to symbolize stereotypical and usually negative images of native Americans as "wild" but "friendly" savages." You want some cancel culture to cry over; cry over Land'O🪶'Lakes butter being changed. That was a respectful product. Meanwhile "Chief Wahoo" is obvious racist rellic. Go home.
it's sad to see so many ignorant people not afraid to shame our feelings :'( i wasn't really big on names of teams and such till i watched this video how can people be so ignorant
Tyrone Washington The real shame is the original Native American ringleader of these protests was charged with embezzlement of funds meant to go to impoverished Indian children! But hey, this is the important issue right?
M shiv I'll agree it doesn't represent anyone as a whole. However based on the amount of trump voters in the usa and this video. I'd say it represents the majority.
Absolutely appalling! Those fans are disgusting! The people protesting against this racist logo are as polite as can be. They are civilly voicing their opposition to what they (and many others, including me) consider a disrespectful logo. A logo that is demeaning to themselves, their families, and their ancestors. Bravo to them for having the courage of their convictions!
it’s not racist your just sensitive and it’s been like that for 106 years. Plus natives don’t watch baseball so I don’t know why white people protest against something that doesn’t having anything to involve them
Most, if not all Trump supporters are white. Second, Stop calling white people devils. The devil isn't real and white people aren't evil. Just most are fucking stupid.
good thing is though that these protesters got acknowledged, and the team changed it's logo, name and mascot to something that won't actually insult whole nationalities of people
How do people like this still exist? You can disagree with someone but that doesn't give you the right to do something disgusting and awful. Even if you don't agree with someone they have a right to protest and you have a right to like racist logos but when you start doing stupid things that's what isn't okay.
As a native american, the logo has never bothered me at all. actually none of the logos of any sports team depicting "indians" never bothered me. Its time to grow up.
Rudie Obias As a fan I hope so too. I was hearing talks about changing it to "The Tribe". I think that,that will suffice. Cleveland is trying to change their image around. Even more so the MLB is trying to target inner city youths and get black kids back into baseball. Though we are not Native" my community is very wary of any form of bigotry like behavior. For one it is wrong and secondly if they say that about NA imagine what they say about blacks, latinos"etc. Also with fans like this I wonder how they really view some of are players outside of the baseball umbrella(Lindor, Ramirez,etc.). I think due to the MLB trying to get more mainstream exposure, it is posdible that they may eventually change the name in the near future.
I hope some of these clowns get identified. I’m sure their employers would like to know if their workers like to racially abuse native Americans in their downtime.
i highly doubt "confronting" is the way to go to educate and ensure people are left with a lifetime of understanding exactly what they are doing is wrong. Seems to me you are trying to incite something when anyone knows there is the high road in such matters.
ejais So you think trying to get them fired is gonna make them see things your way? It sounds more like you are unable to effectively argue your position and would rather affect someone's livelihood just so you can pat yourself on the back.
Times87 Orrr, maybe, they’re doing business owners a service. If I owned a business, I wouldn’t want to employ people who harass minorities. If they don’t want their livelihood to be affected, then maybe they shouldn’t be such chodes in public.
Ian G What changed for those minorities when words were exchanged, nothing. They went home and carried on like they've been doing. So long as the employee does their job effectively what they say outside of that is theur own business. Your solution is that of the mentally weak and emotional. If we truly applied what you want then we'd all be out of a job.
That was the most disgusting disturbing thing I've had to witness in a long time so those are the people labeling other people 3/5 of a human and those are the people labeling others as savage hmmmmm let's revisit that whole discussion again!!!!
What is it with people's obsession with mascots? Names change ALL THE TIME. IF you don't see why the name/logo of teams like the Indians, redskins, braves is racist and pretty absurd idk what to tell you. It's like people enjoy being so overtly racist
I don't understand the situation completely but being native myself it was so uncomfortable to see that woman do the mouth thing. That's definitely a racial trope.
I curled my whole body when she did that, I'm lucky enough to be white passing so I've never had to experience anything completely horrible. Just heard tons of interesting words from my white half of my family my whole life.
I think she did it only in retaliation of the annoying protesters. Otherwise, I don’t think she would have ever done that. These protesters bring out the worst in people. They should really make better use of their time.
It is not just Whites who do lots of Anti Amerindian racism this also goes on in Hispanic(Mostly Mestizo), Black, Ashkenazi Jewish, Asian, And other Non Amerindian communities Amerindians are often glossed over with there struggles and the other minorities do not really acknowledge or sympathize or empathize or understand the struggles that Amerindians still go through or do not seem to care enough
you realize most mexicans are native american right fool? Always trying to pawn your racism on somebody else. What happened here in the states was genocide and we will get it recognized you sick apologist bootlickers
@@charleyu5506 Most Mexicans like many other Hispanics are mixed mostly Mestizos and in there own country the majority of them look down on The Indios and many of them take that racism with them when traveling abroad
Indians great Larry Doby to the Plain Dealer in 1995: "I really don't want to call the Indians anything else, but I agree 100 percent that they should do away with Chief Wahoo, it reminds me of the blackface minstrel shows." He's right.
@j a It's not "Your" team. You don't own it. You're a fan, but that doesn't mean it belongs to you. You don't get to decide what is and isn't offensive to American Indians. If they have expressed their dislike of the name and logo, and the owners of the team respond in kind, that's their business. It has next to nothing to do with you. And if you don't think racism is a good enough reason to change it, let me ask you this. Why should they keep it? Give me what you consider a good reason to keep the name.
@j a Well, I'd say those Indians in the video, and the many who have spoken and written about the issue care a great deal. You don't get to speak for those Indians. You don't own the team because you enjoy them. They are a brand like any other. Maybe if you didn't invest so much of your identity into the brands you enjoy, you'd better understand why some people don't like the idea of their entire ethnicity being reduced to a commodity. Instead of getting mad, why don't you do some research, and understand WHY so many Native thinkers have spoken out against the trend of ethnically named and themed teams.
@j a The commodification of native culture has a huge impact on their lives. Just because it's not a big deal to you doesn't mean it isn't important to other people. It's not all about you.
I'm American (navajo) and European American ( Irish,English, polish) I'm glad more information is surfacing about Americans. I was only taught European American history in schools like about European American presidents such as George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. There is much to learn and share about American culture. European American culture is to new and is mostly surrounded with war, murder, crime.etc. So kind of hard to be proud of that. I'm learning more and more everyday about my American culture.
@@reddmann311 the fact that skin is mentioned makes it racist, that's how white people have to live if we mention someone is black, or Hispanic, or Asian, whatever the politically correct crowd is waiting to jump on you. I see black comedians making fun of white people ALL the time, do you ever see a white comedian making fun of blacks, hell no they dont dare, you see the fact that this guy mentions their skin color and bigotry at the same time is like an oxymoron that's all I'm saying.
My dad loved sports and was a season ticket holder for the Raiders. Being part NA, he refused to attend games with the Redskins, never saw Cleveland play the A's. The time is long overdue to rename these franchises.
Congrats. Your history took another step to being erased from the minds of most Americans and even more people who come here from foreign lands. You let the NA’s who fought for relevance and acknowledgement down. Y’all allowed woke white people stick another one in their hearts without a fight.
@@michaelrmcornejo No one who celebrates and proud of the Native American blood flowing their veins agrees with having a sports franchise make money off derogatory images and names. No to Chief Wahoo, no to the tomahawk chop, no to Cream of Wheat, pancake syrup or butter.
Love the Cleveland Indian fans. To those protesting, get a job. Nobody is forcing you to watch baseball, or anything else. That's why they invented the remote control. Those fans as well as other Native teams like Chiefs, Redskins, and BlackHawks all honor their teams. Nobody is mocking them, they "love their teams. You give them an inch, you give them everything. Fight against people who want to rob people of their joy.
Sounds to me like the fans need something better to do with their time than hurling insults at people who are fully justified in protesting. And what a useless argument against a protest, that they should “just go do something else” almost as if you know you’re wrong and have no rebuttal. It sounds to me like you’d also use the argument of “if you don’t like America then leave” when someone dares to have a differing political opinion to yours.
@@stevenmcalister826Protesting a sports team’s logo is probably the biggest waste of time imaginable. These people need to get a life and let baseball fans enjoy their team they grew up with.
@@Rye-jl2fk You’re just parroting what’s already been said. Stop wasting your time complaining about people who you think wasting their own times. What’s next, the San Francisco Chinamen? That’s what Cleveland sounds like.
@@stevenmcalister826 And I'll keep repeating what's already been said until you weirdos stop ruining America. All you people know how to do is destroy.
im what you call a native american but before this land was called america iit was split up into different nations each tribe had their territory and we fought eachother over territory then when the british and french came along and took the land they ended up doing the same so what is the difference there is none as you saw both of them fought over land after the french and british colinized the land they ended up fightinbg eachother the french fought the brits the brits fought the french and it was all over land so they did no different from us im cherokee indian and im proud
This is so hard to watch. And yet I know being Black and proud is tons healthier than willingly ignorant and mean which is what I saw here on these so-called fans. Sick and sad.
Most Native Americans are supportive of Chief Wahoo and its origins. These Marxist "Native Americans" get everything they deserve. Even their own kind hates them.
@@Lb16161Who cares? It’s a logo ffs. You don’t see people complaining about any white mascots in sports but for some reason we’re expected to pander to these minorities who lost their land to a more intelligent and dominant race.
That's a lot of white people.
Take your complaint to the commie video editor.
European white People
European Americans...
Izakokomarixyz
Just leave America
and go back to Europe
nuno gomes - I’m half native half white (mestizo)
Those same people will be the first to tell you they aren't racist... "I have a native american friend"
bob loblaw0413 More like “I’m 1/256th Cherokee and the name doesn’t offend me!”
So true! This is an example of priviledged ones! No idea that they are racist! The prove they are with their behavior everytime!
My grandchild is biracial!
And you let your grandchild and its brat parent live? Without having one of Duh Donald's Enforcers bust all of your online comment fingers?
bob loblaw0413 there are proof that America is modern day Nazis land.....openly racist towards Natives just like Nazis were openly racist towards the Jews....
"It's not racist! Now watch us be racist to show how not-racist it is!"
Who was racist? Got a time stamp?
@@pr0vaporizer468 How about actually watching it rather than writing ignorant crap like that.
@@antonioel4040 I did and aside from a few, most weren't racist
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 all who were yelling at the protesters were racist they like the logo more then a actual Native American
I'm buying a chief wahoo hat now
Just to trigger snowflakes
Wow, they... look exactly like the type of people I'd expect to be doing that.
lol takes me back to that bill burr bit.
"they" who exactly are you talking about?
@@wherethegreengrows Lol you know who
now act like you got some sense.
@@wherethegreengrows White people
@@wherethegreengrows white conservatives for the most part
I don't understand. If you protest...you don't have a job because you're at a baseball game during working hours? So if I am attending the game midday...profit?
It's not a good look when you say something isn't racist and you liking it has nothing to do with race. But then you proceed to mock another race with racial stereotypes and caricatures.
But I thought all the minorites were taking their jobs.
I really wondered if that guy who yelled "get a job" was even aware how stupid that was to say, when he is also obviously not at work either.
It's about the dumbest thing to say to any protester ever, considering we don't know what days/hours that complete strangers work.
Angry racists- not the smartest bunch
Those AIM scum were getting paid to protest by Soros, Tides Foundation, SEIU, take your pick.
these people are fucked
The protesters treat us autistics like we are part of the general population. These people actually HAVE feelings
Why not just pass by and ignore them? There is no need to hurl insults and swear at these people. They are demonstrating something they are passionate about. Why can't people respect that? They were hurting no one and not impeding traffic in any way.
Free speech, jackass. It goes both ways.
Because they're not from Cleveland they come to our city to protest our sports team and they're not even from here that's why they don't like them and get called names dumbass
People are tired of the PC Thought Police trying to ram their opinions down other peoples' throats.
@@JohnBarrow1961 Hate speech isnt freedom you prick.
@j a That is pretty friggen racist on your part.
It's such a shame they gave in and changed the name to the Guardians. The name Indians was not of any offense and it should've stayed that way, and Chief Wahoo was cool. Not sure why the Native Americans are upset.
Utterly embarrassing for our city. I don't agree with changing the name but do with getting rid of wahoo, but for them to openly mock their heritage with fake native american war cries, cuss them out, flip them off, and just the general idiocy towards people to whom this land belonged to first from the descendants of folks who took their land and murdered their people is just so sad. What a terrible indictment on this portion of Cleveland Sports fans.
What is embarrassing is that 10 or so adult Americans stood on a street corner as if they were going to have any impact on the Indians' fans.
I expect nothing else from Trump supporters.
Exactly.
Robert Safier happens every year on opening day and it has worked. this is last year the tribe will be wearing wahoo on uniforms probobly for the best.
Probably the same folks the burned LBJ's Jersey and spoke all types of trash, now back in front row seats
Sad part is those devils will lie and say they part native smh
Their favorite is saying they are part Cherokee.
One guy already claimed he was Native American...lol..lol..lol
Holy crap this is embarrassing.
I know. Whining about a sports team's name is embarrassing.
Bobby Lawson you must be an ignorant 7 year old.
Do you know how much us natives have been through? Yeah it means a lot to US if they change it next time please look into it
@@imav-22osprey70 i think they should change the name?
@@crimson.flower9619 No, I am against crybabies.l
I'm noticing a trend in the people who "love" wahoo.
Do you also observe the trend in Detroit and Chicago violence?
@jjcp292 lol, no. I observe the weekly body count that continues to rise in Chicago, Detroit, and Baltimore. School shootings don't even come close.
Please tell me what I look like. You couldn't spot me if I was standing right beside you due to your brainwashed perception.
@jjcp292 real question is how do you know how he looks like? Are you a stalker or something
White
@@Zikk0_o Oh, so you're cool with school shootings? Nice. Good to know.
Walking into a baseball game yelling at people you don't agree with to go get a job? Mirrors don't exist in "The Land"?
Baseball games usually cost money
It's at 4pm on a weekday, so they're clearly not at work, whereas the protesters are actually out doing something productive, these people are skipping work (if they have any) to watch a sports game, and to be honest, judging by the behaviour of some of these people I doubt they can hold a job for long anyway.
@@treeaboo And yet they have enough money to go to a baseball game so whats your point?
@@jinxoculican6139 you must be white. Usually whites with hate don't understand. They only understand HATE
@@wherethegreengrows you must be racist Only racists assume all whites are like this.
I don't think that guy knows what Marxism is. I would venture to guess he also doesn't understand how to fully operate a can opener too so I don't want to expect much of anything from him. Keep it classy people of Cleveland who are able to make it to a 4pm game on a workday.
I think we should get them in trouble, lets go to the strip clubs and bars and give the owners a piece of what their people are doing.
I know what marxism is, and it sucks. YOU SUCK.
well he thinks he's native american 5 bucks he has a polish or irish last name
I'm a proud Native American.I feel so sad for these unhappy,uncompassionate,lost souls.May they one day find inner joy and peace.
yep I was sad that the protesters were there too! may they find peace
how can they find peace when they are surrounded by people who mock or demean them for asking that people to respect their persons and culture/race.
ejais It was a handful of knuckleheads responding to another knucklehead yelling at them with a bullhorn. Does not represent the other 40000 that were in attendance
yep it is sad to see the fans yelled at by morons!
O Great Spirit of the South, whose warm breath of compassion melts the ice that gathers round our hearts, whose fragrance speaks of distant springs and summer days, dissolve our fears, melt our hatreds, kindle our love into
flames of true and living realities. Teach us that he who is truly strong is also
kind, he who is wise tempers justice with mercy, he who is truly brave
matches courage with compassion.
i hope some of those people see themselves on this video and realize how wrong they were and go out there and appologize to those native americans ... for disrespecting them in light of them already feeling disrespected ... smh!
Oh please
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 wdym
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 snowflake.
There is nothing mean, disrespectful or racist about Chief Wahoo as a team logo and Indians as a baseball team name.
all the native americans should have worn cubs gear and a 3-1 lead sign...
U should get back on ur boats while we laugh an wave
@@mrpricless2928Shut up. I welcome everyone in this country, regardless of their race.
"Get a job" says dude walking into a baseball game in the middle of a weekday
Or they took a vacation day in order to attend the home opener.
Good one
Yep
Hmm classy people. This should now be part of the "Tourism Video".
Shawn Adler ya I get it lol
As a Clevelander I agree...show the world your true face
It be funnier watching u all on ur boats now that would be a good video
deplorables
Moira Simpson 5
Moira Simpson Truly deplorable
You're right, all three of you are deplorables.
What is wrong with people??? Is there that great a disconnect that they can't look at this and see how truly offensive it is? I give up on humanity.....
If Native protesters play their cards right , I can see this video being used successfully in the fight to change the Washington Redsk*ns name. This very video completely destroys the argument that the r*dskins (and Cleveland Indians fans themselves) mean no racism, based on the sheer volume of racist fans observed in the video.
All my respect and love goes to Native Americans ♥️.
The problem is most Native Americans don't care about team nicknames and such. It's just something the shinny libs want to cry about in hopes of getting more votes.
@@daniellawler2362 most natives? Where are you getting your info from?
Washington is changing there name to warriors good job nfl And to the owner warriors sounds way better
@@mattkisewatizidatidah6888 Just another con
@@daniellawler2362 The name Redskin comes from Native Americans getting scalped then the blood dripping from their head making their skin appear red
Make Philly fans look good.
Dallas too! Thanks Cleveland
Thanks
Dallas Dallas fans are not like this
Let's not get crazy now. LOL
Tells you everything you need to know right there...
"So please, show us how classy you are in Cleveland."
10-15 people is a highly-reliable statistical representation of a region of 3.5 million. Great job mathing. No one I know is really like this, and if they were I would likely choose not to know them anymore.
they do this protest every single year - and they make a video every single year.
it isn't the same 10-15 people every. single. year.
Mj F So, they've been protesting for approximately 20 years. That's 20 x 10 or 15 different people per year. Still doesn't even come close to 3.5 million.
Liberal Male = Raised by his mommy to be a replacement daughter. A.K.A. SISSY!!!
Gotta love Trotsky Dude in there. He definitely read a book at least once!
Love it when people show their colors. Good job
WE LOVE WAHOO
White person seeing American Indians protesting a logo that depicts a racist stereotype: "Is this Marxism?"
Imagine if the logo was a cartoonish blackface. Imagine how mad everyone would be. How is one racist and one is okay because SPORTS
Why you gotta drag black folks into your argument SMH you could've said any other race lol I swear folks like you can't keep black folks out of your minds
@@smoothcriminal4038 I'm black and she made a point stop being sensitive because we would be outraged if somebody used something like Uncle Ben or Aunt Jemima as a logo like back in the day the Natives Deserve the right to be outraged and have that logo changed
Justin Johnson First off I doubt you are black
Because that’s the go to troll tag line
( I’m black ) 😂😂 plus I’m not sensitive I’m just saying do to the fact that a white man named the team that and it’s some white people who seems to not think it’s a problem why not use another race as an example lol don’t you think we done put black people through enough that is of course if you’re really black.🤔😂
Smooth Criminal I'm white and I see exactly where she's coming from.
Smooth Criminal It disgusts me that some black people don't see the wrong in this. Why? Because a lot of you have gone through the same kinds of racial discrimination.
Hold your head down in shame Cleveland, you truly embarrassed your city.
You should hold your head down as well. This is a United States problem, not just Cleveland. Don't generalize based on the actions of a handful of losers.
William Wharry I don't need to hold nothing down in shame. When people go to sporting events in their city, they represent their city. Their actions reflect on their city and they did this knowingly that they were being filmed and it would be all over social media. They had no problem letting their ignorance, bigotry, and racism shine for all the world to see. Assholes like this are like children, the actions of children reflect on the parents, the actions of these individuals reflect on the entire city.
William Wharry You should re-read your first statement when it comes to generalizing. The actions of the few "DO" reflect on the many. Never did I say all of Cleveland but yes they should be ashamed and embarrassed by these individuals because it does paint the the majority in a bad light. Do the actions of bad police represent all police? No. Does it paint police in a bad light? Yes.
Just saw the clip, yet the footage is old. And, it's edited to only show the RESPONSES from the fans. I won't "Hold my head down in shame" as I have been there Personally and seen these interactions. What you're seeing is a Bait and Switch, a Call and Response edited version to promote an agenda. That is the Truth. Are people idiots? Yes sir! Did they respond Poorly? Yes sir! Do you get to see the insults thrown to provoke those responses? Nope. Having seen this first hand, I suggest you report on the thousands that just walked past the verbal abuse that you don't see.
Thomas McDermott no not really the more Like the opposite
I’m so embarrassed for those “adults” yelling at the protesters. Wow, what a shame.
Nuerotypical white people 😒
@@Noname-qe3fg Racist
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 chief wahoo is awesome
@@tylermanter36 I liked it as a logo, but I can also see why people find it offensive
I'm at the infuriating point now where the more people find somthing offensive and cry about it the more I love it!!!!!
This is one of the reasons i'm glad the browns went 0-16 , the city deserves to be a sports wasteland.
Wait a minute... "The Browns"? Don't say that too loud or we'll have another racial sh*t show on our hands.
JuicyPlayer this isn't about Cleveland, dumbass. Put it in any city with white fans and they would have done the same thing. It's a white thing.
Smileyfacedkiller I don't see any blacks or other minorities on the side of Native Americans.
CONFIRMED FACT I didn't ask for genetic lineage, show me a mass movement for native Americans with blacks at the forefront. I'll wait.
LivingThe VeganLife Try accepting responsibility.
It will always be the Cleveland Indians.
I"m from Cleveland and I'm ashamed of how those people acted. We are not all like that.
Its ok
Looks like most of the people spending money on the team disagreed
the insult "get a fucking job" while he is walking into a baseball game is the funniest thing I have seen in a while
People with jobs are unable to attend baseball games? That's news to me.
People with jobs are unable to protest? That's news to me.
Billy Rock If someone has a job they typically don't have the time/energy to worry about something so trivial and banal as a cartoon mascot.
SugaryCoyote If someone has a job they typically don't have the time/energy to worry about something so trivial and banal as a baseball game.
Spending a few hours with loved ones enjoying a sporting event vs. standing outside in the cold yelling at strangers because you don't like the world.
Notice how it’s all joes and Karen’s
Oh Cleveland. Making Dallas look good since forever.
I’ve never felt so honoured in my entire life
Gitz C you are native too?
Oh please. They are the Indians
@@jasonclark9963 "oh please", no, we arent Indian.
@@holybased901 chief Wahoo.
@@jasonclark9963 How is chief wahoo offensive?
It attacks the cultural heritage of the native Americans and destroys native pride." James Fenelon, a researcher and member of the Dakota nation, has described Chief Wahoo as an "unambiguous racial icon meant to symbolize stereotypical and usually negative images of native Americans as "wild" but "friendly" savages."
You want some cancel culture to cry over; cry over Land'O🪶'Lakes butter being changed. That was a respectful product. Meanwhile "Chief Wahoo" is obvious racist rellic. Go home.
Some things never change.
it's sad to see so many ignorant people not afraid to shame our feelings :'( i wasn't really big on names of teams and such till i watched this video how can people be so ignorant
WE LOVE WAHOO
@@mrbaseballcatcher1056 You don't have him now do you?? Ignorant parasite.
@@mrbaseballcatcher1056 We love our land, can you leave?
“I’m a Native American” says the whitest looking man ever 😂 let me guess he’s 1/16th? Boy bye we’re all 1/16th something
He probably hasn’t faced discrimination like most of the native Americans have
@@cunt7196I highly doubt most Indians have faced discrimination.
These same fans probably used the n-word when LBJ left too
Sith Holocron probably? I bet they use it once a day!
The dreaded 'N word' if spoken will end all life in the universe
Sith Holocron What's so wrong with the word "Nyquil"?
@@fitzgcadmere5721 it's potent stuff
Romello Lewis 😄😄
Gross
Shame
Tyrone Washington The real shame is the original Native American ringleader of these protests was charged with embezzlement of funds meant to go to impoverished Indian children! But hey, this is the important issue right?
M shiv He learned it from the whiteman.
g c Ha perhaps. But regardless, this was only a handful of morons. Doesn't represent the other 40000 that attended the game
M shiv I'll agree it doesn't represent anyone as a whole. However based on the amount of trump voters in the usa and this video. I'd say it represents the majority.
Absolutely appalling! Those fans are disgusting! The people protesting against this racist logo are as polite as can be. They are civilly voicing their opposition to what they (and many others, including me) consider a disrespectful logo. A logo that is demeaning to themselves, their families, and their ancestors. Bravo to them for having the courage of their convictions!
Kathleen O'Keefe They already got their way. The logo is done after this season.
it’s not racist your just sensitive and it’s been like that for 106 years. Plus natives don’t watch baseball so I don’t know why white people protest against something that doesn’t having anything to involve them
Trump supporters
yea they seem proud of their offensive behavior. shameful.
frick poo too Thanks for proving his point, you racist Neanderthal.
frick poo too I congratulate you for being able to operate your telephone or computer. Good job, sport.
It's not trump supporters it's white people. This is common behavior by the devils race
Most, if not all Trump supporters are white. Second, Stop calling white people devils. The devil isn't real and white people aren't evil. Just most are fucking stupid.
good thing is though that these protesters got acknowledged, and the team changed it's logo, name and mascot to something that won't actually insult whole nationalities of people
Why do people hate us native americans?? We gave them everything.... 😞
And these are the people who call liberals snowflakes.
Those racist people piss me off. Those native people have a lot of courage to stand up to scum.
They’re not racist. They are just sick of the crybabies protesting a sports logo.
How do people like this still exist? You can disagree with someone but that doesn't give you the right to do something disgusting and awful. Even if you don't agree with someone they have a right to protest and you have a right to like racist logos but when you start doing stupid things that's what isn't okay.
How is it racist most natives don’t care and it’s mostly sensitive white people that care and it’s just a logo
They are truly everything that's wrong with the world.
As a native american, the logo has never bothered me at all. actually none of the logos of any sports team depicting "indians" never bothered me. Its time to grow up.
cmelendez45 thank you
The only reason it bothers me is beacause they are slurs
"Wahoo forever."
Who's gonna tell him?
Congrats to everyone who worked hard for this day.
One more season and then no more Chief Wahoo. Hopefully, the team will then change its name, but that might take more years.
Rudie Obias As a fan I hope so too. I was hearing talks about changing it to "The Tribe". I think that,that will suffice. Cleveland is trying to change their image around. Even more so the MLB is trying to target inner city youths and get black kids back into baseball. Though we are not Native" my community is very wary of any form of bigotry like behavior. For one it is wrong and secondly if they say that about NA imagine what they say about blacks, latinos"etc. Also with fans like this I wonder how they really view some of are players outside of the baseball umbrella(Lindor, Ramirez,etc.).
I think due to the MLB trying to get more mainstream exposure, it is posdible that they may eventually change the name in the near future.
the city's already too far gone
Liberal Male= Raised by his mommy. A.K.A. replacement daughter. Example: SISSY WEIRDO
The thing is. Chief Wahoo means nothing to the folks screaming obscenities , but for the protesters. It means every thing
I hope some of these clowns get identified. I’m sure their employers would like to know if their workers like to racially abuse native Americans in their downtime.
Ian G Or you could confront them yourself instead if acting like a keyboard coward.
i highly doubt "confronting" is the way to go to educate and ensure people are left with a lifetime of understanding exactly what they are doing is wrong. Seems to me you are trying to incite something when anyone knows there is the high road in such matters.
ejais So you think trying to get them fired is gonna make them see things your way? It sounds more like you are unable to effectively argue your position and would rather affect someone's livelihood just so you can pat yourself on the back.
Times87 Orrr, maybe, they’re doing business owners a service. If I owned a business, I wouldn’t want to employ people who harass minorities. If they don’t want their livelihood to be affected, then maybe they shouldn’t be such chodes in public.
Ian G What changed for those minorities when words were exchanged, nothing. They went home and carried on like they've been doing.
So long as the employee does their job effectively what they say outside of that is theur own business. Your solution is that of the mentally weak and emotional. If we truly applied what you want then we'd all be out of a job.
It honours the Indians
The arrogance of some people who have no respect for the fact that natives find it offensive.
Did they really? Where is the data?
@@NeufertfulNo, they didn’t. How many people actually protested outside of that stadium? Looked like a small group of welfare recipients.
And yet that one guy is 0.01% native
This ruined my day. I'm sick to my stomach.
Word I thought the tittle was exaggerating, it’s not. This is where we live now
Virtue signal away, loser. You'll still be a loser.
Liberals are whackadoo's
What a shame....min 00:47
not a good example for children
That’s one racist packed game ..
The faces of closet racism proudly marching along.
That was the most disgusting disturbing thing I've had to witness in a long time so those are the people labeling other people 3/5 of a human and those are the people labeling others as savage hmmmmm let's revisit that whole discussion again!!!!
You must live a pretty privileged life if that’s the most disgusting disturbing thing you’ve seen in a long time.
Pure evil
the childish gambeno this is america meme would go good with this
The one fan said it best "get a job"
I love how you support a fan shouting the most pathetic rebuttal against the protest.
What is it with people's obsession with mascots? Names change ALL THE TIME. IF you don't see why the name/logo of teams like the Indians, redskins, braves is racist and pretty absurd idk what to tell you. It's like people enjoy being so overtly racist
What's racist about the name Braves?
@@SugaryCoyote it doesn't matter if it fits in the liberal cry baby agenda then we're supposed to go along with it.
I don't understand the situation completely but being native myself it was so uncomfortable to see that woman do the mouth thing. That's definitely a racial trope.
I curled my whole body when she did that, I'm lucky enough to be white passing so I've never had to experience anything completely horrible. Just heard tons of interesting words from my white half of my family my whole life.
I think she did it only in retaliation of the annoying protesters. Otherwise, I don’t think she would have ever done that. These protesters bring out the worst in people. They should really make better use of their time.
Honestly its pretty racist
ESPECIALLY the woman with the scream
Welcome to Amerikkka
sad but true !
Cleveland
If you don't like it then feel free to go
It is not just Whites who do lots of Anti Amerindian racism this also goes on in Hispanic(Mostly Mestizo), Black, Ashkenazi Jewish, Asian, And other Non Amerindian communities Amerindians are often glossed over with there struggles and the other minorities do not really acknowledge or sympathize or empathize or understand the struggles that Amerindians still go through or do not seem to care enough
you realize most mexicans are native american right fool? Always trying to pawn your racism on somebody else. What happened here in the states was genocide and we will get it recognized you sick apologist bootlickers
@@charleyu5506 Most Mexicans like many other Hispanics are mixed mostly Mestizos and in there own country the majority of them look down on The Indios and many of them take that racism with them when traveling abroad
Indians great Larry Doby to the Plain Dealer in 1995: "I really don't want to call the Indians anything else, but I agree 100 percent that they should do away with Chief Wahoo, it reminds me of the blackface minstrel shows."
He's right.
@j a It's not about you, and your personal opinions on American Indians.
@j a It's not "Your" team. You don't own it. You're a fan, but that doesn't mean it belongs to you. You don't get to decide what is and isn't offensive to American Indians. If they have expressed their dislike of the name and logo, and the owners of the team respond in kind, that's their business. It has next to nothing to do with you.
And if you don't think racism is a good enough reason to change it, let me ask you this. Why should they keep it? Give me what you consider a good reason to keep the name.
@j a Well, I'd say those Indians in the video, and the many who have spoken and written about the issue care a great deal. You don't get to speak for those Indians. You don't own the team because you enjoy them. They are a brand like any other. Maybe if you didn't invest so much of your identity into the brands you enjoy, you'd better understand why some people don't like the idea of their entire ethnicity being reduced to a commodity. Instead of getting mad, why don't you do some research, and understand WHY so many Native thinkers have spoken out against the trend of ethnically named and themed teams.
@j a So, is sharing an opinion ALWAYS virtue signalling to you, or only opinions you disagree with?
@j a The commodification of native culture has a huge impact on their lives. Just because it's not a big deal to you doesn't mean it isn't important to other people. It's not all about you.
I'm American (navajo) and European American ( Irish,English, polish) I'm glad more information is surfacing about Americans. I was only taught European American history in schools like about European American presidents such as George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. There is much to learn and share about American culture. European American culture is to new and is mostly surrounded with war, murder, crime.etc. So kind of hard to be proud of that. I'm learning more and more everyday about my American culture.
Thats bs. There is so much in curriculums about, native americans, white americans, our government, war with other groups. stop the lying
Clout chaser
If your mixed with European your not a true native
@@_________. he's just telling his story. Lol
@@holybased901 he is lying dude lmfao.
Look at all those fine upstanding completely respectable white people. Not a bigitted bone in their body
Dorian Brooks the fact that you mention white people makes you a racist. Oops!
@@daniellawler2362 They are white what do you see out there? Calling a spade a spade
@@reddmann311 the fact that skin is mentioned makes it racist, that's how white people have to live if we mention someone is black, or Hispanic, or Asian, whatever the politically correct crowd is waiting to jump on you. I see black comedians making fun of white people ALL the time, do you ever see a white comedian making fun of blacks, hell no they dont dare, you see the fact that this guy mentions their skin color and bigotry at the same time is like an oxymoron that's all I'm saying.
@@daniellawler2362 well I guess you never watch Family Guy?
@@stevencorrea8032 it took you two years to get that
I mean, this is Ohio.....
the girl at 0:43 definitely peaked in hs💀
They’re gonna lose fan base next season
My dad loved sports and was a season ticket holder for the Raiders. Being part NA, he refused to attend games with the Redskins, never saw Cleveland play the A's. The time is long overdue to rename these franchises.
90% of NAs are not offended by those teams.
@@TheCeraization That's not true.
@@fourthgirl I’m all for the name change, but not some little league sounding title like Guardians.
Congrats. Your history took another step to being erased from the minds of most Americans and even more people who come here from foreign lands. You let the NA’s who fought for relevance and acknowledgement down. Y’all allowed woke white people stick another one in their hearts without a fight.
@@michaelrmcornejo No one who celebrates and proud of the Native American blood flowing their veins agrees with having a sports franchise make money off derogatory images and names. No to Chief Wahoo, no to the tomahawk chop, no to Cream of Wheat, pancake syrup or butter.
Now I see what they change the name, just disgusting behavior.
It hurts to see native Americans protest about a racist and hurtful name and they get absolutely pulverized by other people
And America is once again confronted by the question of what to do about Cleveland, a people with an endless threshold for wretched embarrassment.
Just seeing a buncha ppl express their opinions, society at its peak
LOL at the guy in the beginning who yells something about marxism. People are assholes.
Did the guy at 1:00 say he is Native American? Uh...no
These are the ppl who voted for trump
Love the Cleveland Indian fans. To those protesting, get a job. Nobody is forcing you to watch baseball, or anything else. That's why they invented the remote control. Those fans as well as other Native teams like Chiefs, Redskins, and BlackHawks all honor their teams. Nobody is mocking them, they "love their teams. You give them an inch, you give them everything. Fight against people who want to rob people of their joy.
Sounds to me like the fans need something better to do with their time than hurling insults at people who are fully justified in protesting. And what a useless argument against a protest, that they should “just go do something else” almost as if you know you’re wrong and have no rebuttal.
It sounds to me like you’d also use the argument of “if you don’t like America then leave” when someone dares to have a differing political opinion to yours.
@@stevenmcalister826Protesting a sports team’s logo is probably the biggest waste of time imaginable. These people need to get a life and let baseball fans enjoy their team they grew up with.
@@Rye-jl2fk You’re just parroting what’s already been said.
Stop wasting your time complaining about people who you think wasting their own times. What’s next, the San Francisco Chinamen? That’s what Cleveland sounds like.
@@stevenmcalister826 And I'll keep repeating what's already been said until you weirdos stop ruining America. All you people know how to do is destroy.
1:00 so thats where they all went
I'm so mad they changed the name 😒
Racist
im what you call a native american but before this land was called america iit was split up into different nations each tribe had their territory and we fought eachother over territory then when the british and french came along and took the land they ended up doing the same so what is the difference there is none as you saw both of them fought over land after the french and british colinized the land they ended up fightinbg eachother the french fought the brits the brits fought the french and it was all over land so they did no different from us im cherokee indian and im proud
Very honest comments. Respect.
The ignorance is astonishing
You sound like a Liberal wuss who was raised by his mother.
@@dermeister9475 You write like a conservative shill that got beaten by yours.
No
That's awesome. Don't change the name
Fake. This is cut and edited
This is so hard to watch. And yet I know being Black and proud is tons healthier than willingly ignorant and mean which is what I saw here on these so-called fans. Sick and sad.
How can one be black and proud when blacks kill their own at an alarming rate? Black lives only matter when a white person is involved.
@@Zikk0_o because white on black racism still exists regardless...
@@Itsjimmay Racism in ever form exists
Im white but im from europe we dont claim these whites from america i rly hope natives get more respect and get heard cuz its their land
Right.
Most Native Americans are supportive of Chief Wahoo and its origins. These Marxist "Native Americans" get everything they deserve. Even their own kind hates them.
@@mandark8561 you probably never talked to any natives
@@Lb16161Who cares? It’s a logo ffs. You don’t see people complaining about any white mascots in sports but for some reason we’re expected to pander to these minorities who lost their land to a more intelligent and dominant race.
0:59 just a Cherokee princess dis guy
busiest fans in baseball
I'd start making white faces red