CCP HATES HIM! Sinkiang unites China with this ONE Obscure Trick!! HOI4
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
- this is a run created to speedrun making Sinkiang incredibly powerful, both uniting China as well as Turkestan.
This run was inspired in part by a Bubbleszest video where he explored the ability to take leadership of China from the nationalists. see that video
here: • What's The Point of Co...
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Ok so I managed to form Turkestan today using this guide. A few notes:
1) Commie China really struggles against Shanxi. No panic. If you take over Commie China with the focus, just disband your faction and rejoin the Comintern. The Comintern Friends will use their score in the peacedeal to give cores to you then (otherwise they will liberate the original Communist China.
2) Rushing Menguko capitol is key. If you fail, like me, prepare for a slog through the mountains. Took me much longer, but having the comintern distract so many Japanese forces helps a lot.
3) I did not flip fascist but stayed communist. I fought Japan by using paratroopers and then attacked the soviets from the East. Got about 18% warscore, war ended in 1942, but thats more than enough for the Turkic terrritories.
4) Core of this guide is getting all of China through the power struggle and negating the Soviet Tribute - Genius!
Great tips for anyone trying this out!
Instant pin!
Check out Antasil's channel too if you're seeing this
2 goats in the comments
I've white peaced japan and am getting ready for the soviet war. I'm struggling to get Yunnan and Guangxi. The border incident mechanic is a nightmare. It selected my weakest units to attack into dug in mountain tiles although I have 35 width artillery heavy units stationed there. It also switched to my weakest general ATK +1 instead of the assigned one ATK +6. Is there any way to game the border conflict in my favor? I don't want Yunnan and Guangxi to join the Allies before USSR is capped.
@@ViktorEnns For the border conflicts make sure you only have the units you want to attack with in that state. Otherwise it will select any 6 units in that state to attack with. Sadly as far as I know the general is random
@@justinsanchez6255 that makes sense. Thank you. I capped USSR and took all of Asia from the Allies. Now baiting UK to come to Iran so I can sea lion easier. The allies are still outproducing me in planes and Germany isn't building AA in France so I currently have no chance of paradropping 🤷🏼♂️
This is actually giga chad been trying to do Sinkiang path on and off since 2021
It's really crazy how quickly they can get strong!
They deserve some love and attention you know
ive been trying to make a shanxii run work. where you dont side with japan
@@joebidengaming6329 you could do something similar to this, although you would need to do a civil war to communism first
It would be nice if they had a cosmetic tag for this formable going like "Sino-Turkic empire" or something
Reorganised Tang dynasty
That would be sick
The Silk confederation. Reason for naming that: Central Asia held a lot of the ancient great silk route - the bigass trade route frpm China to Europe before maritime travel for such long distances was possible.
Modu Dynasty? Tengri/Tian Dynasty?
For those who do not understand west china is east turkestan populated by turkic uyghurs mainly.
That's only in southern Xinjiang. Northern Xinjiang has more mongols than Uyghurs. And there are more Ham Chinese in both than either minority
@@truedarklander That's what China wants you to think, who the hell is counting uyghurs that are not registered in re-education camps anyway?
Uyghurs are not a minority, that's their home region, south shared with Chinese and north belonging to Turkic people.
If you really care about mongol majority in the north, mongols are considered cousins to Turkic race, so there's no point trying to divide the two when they can peacefully coexist together unlike Chinese.
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Yes, it certainly helps if you click the nation you wanna play as!
xD
I may have started playing as germany at first....😅
Very cool. One note though - the background music is a bit loud.
second that. It was annoying at some times.
Don't knock the default extra research slot! It isn't necessarily *optimal*, but if you want to get research faster/don't mind a slower game, it can really help in the long run.
Glorious! Want to play that at once! Good find on that Soviet Tribute stuff!
6:57 second balkan war be like
Good content, but I noticed that at some points the music overpowers your voice and makes it a bit hard to listen.
Yeah he should probably disable music ingame and then add music on top of video in editing
Can't believe I only just found this channel! It really takes me back to the 2010's with EUIV channels that did this very similar sort of heavy explanation of what they were doing without it being an outright walkthrough. I watched those videos to relax, and I will now be doing the same with these videos.
Hey, an observation I've made. The bug where you can't enter the war tab is caused by being in the war tab when the war ends. When you see you're about to win, exit out of it. That should prevent it.
Ahhh good to know!
I always hate having to reload, even though in the grand scheme it is a small inconvenience
@@hatless_spider Glad I could help! It's really annoying when it happens, cuz it's the only definitive area to know if you're about to win or not
Ive been waiting to see someone else do this for a while
Very cool strategy! It might be worth building infra or a few civs before the supply hubs. You might be able to finish them earlier even.
8:35 the focus outcome is calculated when you start the focus so boosting the opinion after won't change anything great video though!
As a TURK my favorite hoi4 channel is you from now
Awesome, I'll try to keep it that way 👍
@@hatless_spider when is unite all byzantium cores before 1940 video
@@joda7129 you really want him to lose the turkish viewers, dont you?
The day I have been waiting for, trying this thing since it came out
Awesome! Update how it goes for you!
I had a lot of fun with this strategy
I’m getting some popcorn this looks great!!
I love your longer videos. Longer thr better 👍
Glad to hear it lol
You might really love my livestreams then, although they are not everyone's cup of tea
Pretty sure you can also get 6 research slots total due to the basic warlord focus tree giving one and the communist one giving three
Nah, the last one in the commie China focus tree is locked if you already have 5 research slots sadly
China: We annex Turkestan
Turkestan: *uno reverse card*
Honestly I had no idea this was a formable nation. thanks for the guide by the way I'm definitely gonna try it out myself
Awesome glad to hear others are enjoying it!
This was beautiful to watch
I've never played as sinkaing before, but you can actually solo the three neighboring warlords (including sinkiang) as communist China. If you just pump out troops (by funneling resources into training and deploying at 10%) you can just walk around the troops of each of the nations as none of them have enough to fully protect their border as you get to them. No need to beat a single division!
You probably already know this, but I felt I should say it as you only had 5 divisions when going to war with xibet san ma.
The cs sound in 32:54 gave me a jumpscare man
Let’s go 🎉
Video idea, is it possible to exploit the unification with ccp + your own first focus tree to get many buffs that you shouldnt have?
Possibly, but more than likely it would require wayyy too much waiting for commie china to acquire its good buffs
Fr im so unlucky XD 11 may and communist china havent took a single state of shanxi :x and i cant take on my own xibei AND shanxi like they are atm so yeah im good to restart i guess (but great video, it was a pleasure to watch)
I had something similar happen in one game where communist china would not push for some reason. But once i took over i rolled shanxi pretty quickly.
At least it's fairly close to the beginning of the strat if you do have to restart
@@hatless_spider absolutely, i could achieve this part in my second run but now im struggling against japan x) But well, more about a skill issue this time.. even if the soviet didnt help me that much
Anyway, thks for the response
@@Flobann practice makes perfect! You'll get it!
Let me know if you need more help
Welcome back Yuan Empire
Cool guide, I have never really wanted to do the communist side in de warlord focus tree. I always try to flip true a civil war to fascist just to lose those 2 horrible de-buffs. Do this quick and you can do the small buff's in the warlord focus tree after, and not lose them true the civil war. -10% consumer goods + 10% infrastructure, you need every buff you can get. Also state serves the military for more pp gain. Then true border clashes take over your neighbors , or true a war goal if Japan takes to long.
This way your doing it, at 1937 have both Ma, communist China and Xanxi, damn ... to bad you also get the de-buffs from the communist china, but overall nice path 👌
Dude, what on earth happened to the old Sinkiang flag!?
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But if you go with any of the other two options its very painful to get the 5th research slot and grabbing that free one will save so much time
Since bba peace deals work differently all nations that joined the war will be included if all majors capitulate
I remember I tried to reform it but didn't go with rival government focus and got stuck at Xe Bei San Ma cause no supplies and I couldnt push xD
So you can't get 6 research slots if you take the 2 focuses first and then rush down to Yan'An? (curious, because, you know, more is more!).
And I've been dying to play Sinkiang for... well, ages. I've tried it way back when, never worked out. Managed to Communist China-win everyone and currently nearly complete WC as Manchukuo-started Chinese Empire on going.
I have tried this many times before, but I went independent or nationalist fact I never thought to try communist makes me feel stupid.
I love watching Sheng Shicai plotting
I find it weird that they all of a sudden finally corrected the Xinjiang flag, but it's still wrong. The old design was the correct design, just with inverted colours. Now they've got the wrong design but the right colours. Still no idea why they call it by the Romanized name either. I guess because most people aren't aware that "Xi" is pronounced "she". Weird Paradox decisions confuse me. Plus the seemingly arbitrary naming conventions. Some nations and ideologies using informal names for countries while others use formal names. It's so confusing lol
source from the wikipedia flag says:
Yelow with red star on the left 1933 - 1934
Red with yellow star on the center 1934 - 1942
In Turkic languages we call it Sincan wich sounds like Sin-jan in English
Ah yes the resurgence of Pax Turko-Sinca 🇨🇳✊💀🗿👌
I would love to try this but I hate trying to push through China. 2 research slots, no trains, no support equipment, no artillery, no factories, it’s just miserable. I’m trying to get the unify China as mao achievement on and off and I just find it all awful. I’m sure there’s something that makes it easier that I’m unaware of but I’m only 600 ish hours or so of playtime.
This guide makes it somewhat easier, and it would probably be good practice for you to get the mao achievement.
Check out the pinned comment from Antasil if you do try it! He gave some good helpful tips
It would be even better if going for the prc path wouldn't give you the debuffs of long march
As a Turk from Turkey i liked the map at the end.
What's the mod for having additional demands at the conference?
Based
“Manchukeo” that’s the word fr fr ong ong
- 100k social credit you are now on way to your reeducation
Is it possible to use the left side focus instead of the center one? If you are communist, you will get the communist focus tree regardless.
It might work, but i didn't test that.
Is it faster or does it give better bonuses?
Oh no, it has been nerfed. You cannot do that anymore, you will get nationalist focus instead. Also you have to fight Communist China
if you choose 'cooperation with nationalists' in the beginning you will end up as cursed communist china with nationalist focus tree instead of communist one
You can unite China faster and you get opium trade
Hii, i started to masterise this path (wich i love in theory) but today i got a new problems (lol) wich i couldnt find a solutions... im in late 38 and i still couldnt do any chinese power struggle decisions ? I cant click on any regions and i dont know why ? Im above 300PP and china does do some power struggle but on my side they are unclickable :/
btw, sorry for my english im not fluent enough to clearly explain my problem x)
Your english is good enough don't worry 🙂
I'm not certain why if you have done the focus required, it would not be working.
You could try reloading the save, otherwise I'm not certain. Maybe a restart could fix it.
@@hatless_spider Well i restarted the game twice, didnt worked on the first, same in the second but after an autosave, dont know how nor why, the decisions started to work x)
I can assure you that i did the EXACT same things as you all along (and i wrote some notes btw) so yeah paradox issue i think ? Anyway i hope it wont happen with my friends in multiplayer XD Still, thank u
@@Flobann glad ot worked finally!
That is the nature of hoi4 sometimes for whatever reason
God the Soviets "i have altered the deal, pray i do not alter it further" is so damn true
if you can lower the game volume its a bit high i my opinion
Noted, thanks!!
I think music was too loud
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Amazing video, one suggestion though. PLEASE CHANGE THE MUSIC. It is HELL listening to the same hoi4 tracks over and over and over again after listening to them for over 300 hours in game.
bro are you a squidward irl
Wanna see you play as tannu tuva
Here you go!
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i just play sinkiang to turkish state or tannu tuva for same reason
Is landlocked. Leases convoys from USSR.... Like how?!
You're allowed to lease convoys even as a landlocked nations.
I guess they have some lakes they keep them in or something 😁
@@hatless_spider Rivers! ;-)
@@hatless_spider They go fishing or something
Majority Chinese country after being renamed a Turkic Empire: (☭ ͜ʖ ☭)
so just like most of the biggest empires that existed
Good grief. Did you have 4.6 million available manpower on "volunteer" only?
Correct
The title sounds like "Doctors hate this one simple trick" and its like some BS
I was memeing that yeah, but apparently the clickbait does work 😆
@@hatless_spider haha
me when no turkey and siberia in a turkic asian empire 😭😭 (it could be Turan but no its Asian Turkic empire)
This is in vanilla?
Correct, with all DLCs active
Aauuuuuuu🤘🇹🇲🇦🇿🇰🇿🇹🇷🇰🇬🇺🇿🐺🤘
I did this fiew days ago
This is a long run in 1940😐
Fuck yes, I commented this a few months ago and now it's here!!!! WOOO
the music is too loud. it is hard to follow your voice
You forgot Tibet. 😆
Lower the music
Buh buh buh based?!?!?!
isn't tibet part of china?
IRL it is, but it would be debatable IRL as well if it would be a core or not.
But in-game you cannot core tibet
Too bad you forgot to annex Tibet
Ну окей
Bitee3
This method sucks. The Power STruggle MEchanic might be the worst in hoi4 and is very rng based.
Even without doing focuses, ive been doing it over 2 years and its still 56-20 for China
Sounds like you got very unlucky.
It's possible to get screwed there, but it is unlikely.
I'd say give it another go, but sounds like you are understandably pissed about it.
Maybe try a different run, then give this another go once you're less angry from it
What the 🤣🤣
Empire of Kurdistan when?
It would be fun if you have after flipping to brownies joined Co-prosperity Sphere :-) More so Japan is already at war with Soviets.
Isn't Tibet also a Chinese core?
you cant core tibet in hoi4
well, you play as Sheng Shicai though, who was basically a Stalinist puppet and opposed Uyghur people, much like China does. So unfortunately Shicai is not so different from Mao or CCP 😔
Well in this timeline he only uses the soviet help, then betrays the communists to go fascist and then use the help of the axis to advantage.
Playing all the different sides like a fiddle!!
@@hatless_spider
I can assure you, historically only the Long Yun from Yunnan is a decent guy irl. Yunnan is so weak in this game but he turned it into a democratic fortress, with the highest infrastructure (at that time) in all of China
other warlords were either evil or nutjobs. Li Zongren of Guangxi Clique even banned music cause he thought music itself was evil.
Still love your vids bro, i liked the Alan de Lucia vid of yours with Libya, shame that you couldnt form the Caliphate properly in the end. You got a subscriber! :D
@Gun_Metal_Grey i was more just memeing.
But yeah I believe you! I should bone up more on chinese history
@@hatless_spider yeah i know bro, i was just doing the "🤓" shtick instead. And i am not even Chinese.
Cheers from Azerbaijan, feel free to try forming Transcaucasia formable anytime soon (i wish we had non-generic focus tree)
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@@hatless_spider You just had to make it a bigger e, didn't you?
Why do you voice fry yourself
-1000 credit score just like my iq when watching hoi4 brainrot
THE UYGHUR PEOPLE ARE MENTIONED EAST TURKESTAN WILL BE FREE!!! GLORY TO SABIT DAMOLLA!!!!