This Deck Wins a Ton! | Sisay, Weatherlight Captain cEDH Deck Tech |
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2023
- Hey CZcams!
Today we are breaking down my 5c Sisay Deck!
I have been having a lot of fun with it as of late and can't wait to break this down for everybody.
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this was one of the best walkthrough for a decklist I have ever seen
I’ve had this deck for 3+ years when cEDHtv showed it off for the first time. It’s amazing how much the last year has VASTLY improved the quality of this deck. Treasures are secretly the very best thing for this deck too which is why I have been so happy including Smothering Tithe in the deck.
Awesome video!! Made some changes and super excited to try them.
Took my build to a 2k here in MI a few weeks ago and finished 4th. It definitely exploits the fact that its hard to interact with and because there are so many ways to win, your opponents really have no idea what is coming other then a Sisay activation....
The deck is also a giant puzzle which is crazy fun to play!
It was super fun watching you play this at bearded dragon this last weekend so seeing a proper breakdown is really useful
Been playing Sisay for almost 2 years now, and cultist + dihada + chromatic has been the biggest improvement lately. Highly highly recommend placing it in the deck.
can you share your list? :)
Yessss
Just build the deck last week
Love the content
Ready for sisay to have the same rise as tayam. cEDH is sooo open it is fantastic
Excellent video as always😎
Another great video! Keep it up Ian
Bro. Your deck techs are unhinged good. Keep them up.
My buddy has been playing this deck for a long time, weve seen so many iterations. One thing I can tell you is Cultist is absolutely bonkers. it makes everything so easy, turns sisay into the best blocker, and can suprise people. also gets around grafdiggers, if you dont have enough to grab teferi
My Sisay deck is what I’ve been playing the longest. With Drannith, Lavinia, and Teferi in the deck… I can’t help but add Possibility storm as a wincon. Even without the lockout, you can play through it with Sisay activations.
Solid deck tech
I've really been enjoying running Sisay lately
I'm start rebuilding my Thrasios-Ishai stax/evolution muse to Sisay, because it hits a lot of same cards, but much easier to win. Also I want to cut biggest part of planswalkers to play more creatures and upgrade soul cauldron line. Btw Sisay won our capital's cedh year championship few weeks ago (Moscow, Russia)
Thanks for this crazy decktech after all, Ian!
I'm looking to pivot my one non-proxy cEDH deck from First Sliver to another 5c deck and Sisay seems totally awesome. The lines were not super intuitive to me so this deck tech was incredible - thank you!
nothing wrong with proxies
@@beliffywu5804 obviously.
Awesome content Ian! I've seen some lists going towards a more reactive gameplan - passing turn with mana up, tutoring for disrupting pieces at the right time, some even using RoL effects - I know this is more of a proactive list, but in your experience would you say the deck can adapt to that gameplan if necessary? (if you're up against 1 or 2 much faster decks for example)
Oh yeah I love the ability to transition over to a toolbox deck if necessary
*Oppoenents play Linvala, Aven Mindcensor, and Oppo Agent.*
Mt. Doom: "Ah. So you have chosen death?" 😂
I've been trying to figure out if I can sneak a Maralen setup into my non-cEDH Sisay deck, the Maralen stuff is for pods where I seem ill prepared, it's mostly a matter of finding a good way to protect Maralen, because I can already endstep tutor her up, meaning I can just grab my Oppo (and probably another Legend with Sisay). It's a nice contrat from the 11 Shrines the deck also runs, for when I brought an AK to a water fight and need to self-nerf, tutoring out Shrines is good but nowhere near busted.
Thanks for your ideas/list, I don't think I'd have thought of using Aminatou like that, I use Zur as backup route to infinite WUBRGs (he can find Sanctum Weaver and an untap aura), definitely worth looking at the PW options you list!
are we getting a writen prime on this BEAST!? loving playing sisay!
I love sisay, she is my pet deck and love the content
So many cool lines. Def need good knowledge. Idk if im at that point yet lol.
Any chance on a full tivit deck tech.
There have been a few partial ones in top 16 breakdowns but no full breakdown
Ian what are your thoughts on Rocco, Cabaretti Caterer? It seems like it would have a relatively strong position in the meta, being about to effectively win through rule of law effects while also utilizing creature combos to dodge a decent amount of interaction. Interested to hear your thoughts as to why it's not seeing as much play.
Mons would be proud!
Nissa, Vital Force’s -3 is an Eternal Witness for permanents only
Tamiyo from war of spark - legendary eternal witness
Spicy list! :O
Have you considered Gilded Drake alongside Aminatou?
Also, perhaps Tamiyo, Collector of Tales as an eWit effect? :)
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I think one of the hidden strengths of 5c Aminatou is that this is a deck that's incredibly easy for Wizards to print new cards for these days. There's so much demand for new legendary creatures that do vaguely advantagey or comboey things, being able to access all of modern card design for 5 mana is hilarious.
Did u think about Tamiyo, collector of Tales as your legendary eternal witness?
Dayum Sisay was my first cedh deck. And we both play dawnwaker and Kinnan too. Now start playing Ardenn/Tana and I probably marry you.
I added W&6, cheap PW that helps you a lot with 10 fetches getting early your colors, also functions as a wincon with infinite flickers and +2+2 to sisay in difficult colors which is critical to access your easiest chains (selvala + derevi + tyvar), same applies to Katilda, and a lot of our creatures happen to be humans.
Katilda just got the are but I had it for a while
W&6 is also great with Boseiju and Otawara both in the deck.
I made 100% proxy. gold border copy of this list on MPC. And added championship backing.
I would super like to see you pilot this deck on a stream
I also am taking inspiration from this list and want to test it out in a not cedh meta... but still quite competitive. so I will take inspiration from this list but only for things I actually plan on buying in the future. do not need those mox and shit
@ComedIanMTG what do you think about replacing Avacyn's Pilgrim with Delighted halfing? Like on paper, it sounds straight up better, no? Also I like your list much more than the one on the database!
Halfling doesn't tap for mana to activate sisay so it's actually surprisingly worse
What about Kethis of the hidden hand? It might got crazy with Dihada's mill ability.
So I actually play a version of this deck that's in the high power / optimized range and I actually play agent of the Shadow thieves, and I just attack whoever is the player with the highest life total so that Sissay gets indestructibility and he gets a +1/+1. This kind of serves two functions, one it increases her power which means I can tutor cards with higher casting costs, the other is that it gives her indestructible and then I can go off and do all the things I want to do as far as like pulling cards of the deck.
My version of this deck is also a Planeswalker focused deck, and the only legendary creatures that are in the deck either are there to assist my planeswalkers or help keep me alive, as a great example pramikon literally makes it so I only have to worry about one opponent attacking me. I know your deck's different, and I know it's CEDH but I also would just like to say Teferi who sets the Sun has been a fucking All-Star in this deck, usually I use him to untap Bloom tender and the chain veil so that I get infinite activations of my planeswalkers but he can do a lot especially with the aminatou flicker combo
It’s so nice to see Sisay off Chains of Smog as a wincon. I quit playing her when that’s what she went to but I may try her again.
Yes, I just got 1st place at my locals with Sisay been playing her for 6 months and switched between Rule of Law, Ad Naus, Pod and I can say this it is a very good deck :)
Can you create a primer or get someone to make one for you?
The last part of the vid where u showcased the win. I didn’t see u prioritize any protection. Like when do u ever go for 3 feri for protection in the early game when trying to win
As for a legend that gives recursion, has Kethis, the Hidden Hand been mentioned? It has more hoops than eternal witness, for sure, but one activation would let you recur multiple legends
Mana reduction too
It's too hard to get multiple legends in GY to exile in my experience.
I wonder if you took out Sakashima or Sahili Rai (or any 2 cards) and replaced them with a Teferi who slows the sunset and The Chain Veil. Sisay for Teferi, untap 3 things to Sisay again for Oath, untap 3 things to sisay for Bolas, Bolas copies Teferi to untap and sisay for the Fatesifter, reset either Teferi or Bolas for another sisay and get The Chain Veil. Now you can use that untap mana for infinite chain veils With Teferi and Bolas both taking turns untapping Chain Veil you can give Bolas infinite loyalty and blow up all legends you don't control and ult to win the game.
SISAY!
Kethis is an option for a recurring engine.
I would suggest Teshar if you are looking for to grab stuff out of the yard.
What are your thoughts on Umezawa’s Jitte as a way to pump Sisay but also for removal in a pinch? Thanks Ian!
Oh I hadn't really thought about the pump part but I don't know that it's worth the slot 9ver other cards
Gotcha! Currently testing it instead of Flowering of the White Tree. Both serve somewhat similar purposes!
Why no deadly rollick to complete the swat and guardianship suite? Also do you think stern scolding would theoretically be very good by protecting from oppo's/containment/aven's as some of the worst stax pieces for sisay?
Yeah exactly scolding hits a lot of pain points for us.
Rollick is always my 101st card it's just okay and 4 is a lot
11:25 Kethis, the Hidden Hand?
endurance?
Hey brother, have you tried Ioreth + Sakashima +Selvala(or any dork) combo?
I haven't!
Bearded Dragon! I wish I said hi!
Would there be any merit to jamming Najeela if you’re already on Derevi or would that be too cute? (Relatively new to the format so excuse me if this is a silly question)
There are a lot of lists that do play Najeela in the 99, however a lot of the big names of the Sisay community (that don't run Jeggy as companion) do not really prefer using her just because she feels unnecessary, is a little slow, and doesn't lend herself to other combos easily. It totally can work though, but it just depends on what you want to be doing with the list. As Ian said, the deck is super flexible and all the pieces try to work together to make wins happen out of nowhere. Almost anything can work in Sisay, just depends on your meta and personal preferences
I'm in the camp of it being too cute, Derevi already wins with just about everything I don't think Najeela is needed
@@ComedIanMTG Najeela + Esika can get you the non-PW win conditions during combat (cEDHtv's decktech version from a year ago or so).
Unless I missed you calling it out but Emiel, Derevi, and any 1 of selvala/Bloom Tender / faeburrow elder is much easier to assemble and more common than doing that combo with cradle
I do mention it :)
Hey, can I ask why do these decks have 29 lands and 80% of your mulls are because of mana issues? Would it not be wiser to reduce mulligans by including more mana?
35:06 just adding in that u wouldn't be able to cast the eldamris call
just sounds to me like you either don't come across Opposition Agent often enough, no one runs Opposition Agent, or your able to "deal with" Opposition Agent in such a way that it doesn't set you back.
i really like the idea of the deck, but i dont really wanna spent that amount of money haha, is their a good more "budget oriented deck"? more like 500-1000 :D
legendary e-wit => muldrotha? or kethis?
Interesting, so you find Dihada worth it despite not running either the Breach/Flicker line, or the Cultist of the Absolute line. Curious as to why you'd eschew both.
Dihada is just super impressive in my testing.
I'm not going to run a lot of bad cards just because of 1 spot in the 99
@@ComedIanMTG I think it's more of "Isn't Dihada kinda bad without those?" I think the card is fine, personally though out of the three (Dihada, Orrery, CotA), CotA is the one I would keep. It accelerates the gameplan so much and offers a solid way for Sisay to swing in unblocked for Derevi triggers.
They're not bad cards dude they combo together @@ComedIanMTG
How does feel against opposition agent tho? Kinda feels like its a major thing to worry about.
That's why we play a lot of removal haha
Are you going to be in Atlanta at the cookoff?
Yup!
Need atraxa breakdown
In the intro you explained that you played the deck in no-proxy events. What does your WPS-legal no-proxy list look like? 😄
The same as this one
@@ComedIanMTG fair enough 😄 I was thinking about running shocks for duals since there is no ad naus, but kinda stuck (as usual) on Mox Diamond and Gaeas Cradle replacements. I guess a Talisman for the rock, but Cradle is kinda impossible to substitute no? I kinda missed out on the Cradle when they were at $100 😄 😄 😄
@@GreatGaunt cradle is definitely the hardest miss for sure, maybe a zirda?
That way emiel zirda and and 2 mana creating rocks go infinite
@@ComedIanMTG I think Emiel only flickers creatures, how would this loop look like? Sorry if thats a stupid question 😅
*sees Sisay deck and laughs in Grafdigger’s Cage*
“So the planeswalker package is-“
Crap.
Yeah, it's one of the reasons that Sisay players have started moving towards the PW combos. If you look at the recent tops from Sisay that Ian's covered, most of them are on the Nicol Bolas combo.
Imagine with Drana in Linvala stealing opponents Najeela and you win xD I 've been saying that Drana and Linvala is underused like Mizzix mastery
Does Gaeas Cradles is ireplaceable in your build? because I can't afford that card
I know he's super casual, but could jodah the unifier be a competitive commander in Cedh? I have sisay I just love the cascade part of things, or maybe have him as a 99 in sisay for his wubrg cost?
I think it's actually really underexplored
aragorn is more fun. try that one
I’ve been working on Jodah for awhile and it’s tough. Definitely a good commander with good potential… but I might cave into building sisay (hence why I saw your comment) lol
Its so funny seeing your right hand disappear when you use your mouse lol.
Yeah it's a necessary evil 🤣
Why are there no proxy tournaments if some creators say cEDH players want to play the player not the wallet? Seems like that statement is not true
The players aren't the ones making those decisions
What about rakdos chainer for the legendary eternal witness/ recursion slot
Oh yeah I keep forgetting I cut him, he doesn't get planeswalkers tho
Unfortunately he is pretty limited in what he can retrieve too, and discard is a fairly steep cost.
U could always cast what u discard… technically
can you tutor saheeli rai with sisay ability? even if its not legendary? that confuses me
All planeswalkers are legendary
Thank you!! @@ComedIanMTG
Do you ever take reccomendations for new deck techs?
Yeah it's a tier on the patreon as well as something my $10 and up patrons vote on for the monthly live brew :)
@@ComedIanMTG ight cool
4 mana tamiyo has that with the outside chance her passive could matter
OOH GOOD CALL!!!!!
@@ComedIanMTG 4mv Tamiyo also loops with Kitten and Lotus Petal for inf mana, so it's not totally unreasonable if you're on that line
I do not have Drannith in my Sisay build because that is one card that can backfire horribly if it's stolen or copied.
Drannith is one of your biggest enemies so you don't want to introduce him into the field.
i'd rather play jodah the unifier as cmdr with sisay in the 99. way more velocity and force interaction from the table esp from those who are in the corner quietly wanking themselves off and hoping to pull the usual boring thassa's oracle win.
Would this deck be better or worse if you could only play 90 cards instead of 100?
Interesting thought experiment 🤔
@@ComedIanMTG Less bad cards, but also less situational things to tutor for.
"Kinnan is awesome in this deck" WRONG the right phrasing is "Kinnan is awesome"
Lolol 😅
Doesn't bolas ult just win after the requisite +1s?
You have to keep resetting it
@@ComedIanMTG
Fair enough, thank you
#instalike
How many counters would Sisay need to tutor up Esika for the backside?
Reading the rules, it’s not possible to get the backside sadly. In the deck only the front side of MDFC is seen. I can only tutor the creature part. Rule 711. Hope this helps
23 minutes in you say, all these win conditions we've been talking about, and I don't think I saw a single one by that time. Infinite mana, ok, what was the win condition you talked about?
You should probably check your ears
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