It really sucks because like Kira said. So many people came in to see Kalani dance. If she was already put into the number than she deserves to be in it. They pay for this don't they? Who agrees?
Abby is such a liar. If you do the math, taking Kalani out didn't pull the group under 12. Either she lied to the competition and put them on Nader where they should, or she did it out of spite to Kira. Also I'm 99% sure the candy apples group were all teens soooo...
Debbie Spiro Kalani was born in 2000 and joined aldc permanently in 2015 she was 14 or 15 years old they would have been in the teen division Nia was 13 and the age was 12 kenzie was 10 jojo was 12 maddie was 13 and kendall was 12 birthday where by January first so either u r right about abby lying because everyone was 12 or older except kenzie and u need 3 people to put it in junior or that competition had stupid birthdates they should have competed in teen and if they didn't Kalani would have been taken out and Nia or possibly maddie
Kenzie was 10. Jojo was 11. This may have even been before Maddie's 12th birthday idk for sure. It was most likely before Kendall turned 12. Kenzie turned 10 3 months before Maddie turned 12. Nia would've recently turned 13 basing knowledge she has birthday close to Kenzie's. And Kalani said she's 13 she has September birthday like Maddie so was before her birthday. Kalani birthday is later in September. Which means definitely Kendall still 11. December birthday. What happened was Maddie was or turned 12. Then Kalani turned 14. Then Kendall turned 12. Then new year happened then JoJo turned 12.
I don't think anyone in the comments understands that before this incident kalani had already done a solo, which she in fact won with, so all the people who came out to see her would have already danced, what's the issue if she doesn't dance in the group if she has just performed an amazing solo. It wouldn't be fair if she pulled Nia out as she didn't have any other dance that day other than the group so she would've wasted her time travelling to that competition to not do any dance whatsoever. Unlike kalani who HAD A SOLO
Louise Mutlu I know right everyone just thinks it unfair that Kalani was pulled someone needed to be pulled and it should have been Kalani since she just did a solo
As a dancer.. this is disgusting. She doesn't have any faith in her dancers to allow them to move up to their rightful age group?? So terrible. "In teen where they belong" that's ridiculous
julia kern At that time Nia and Kalani were the only kids who actually were teens though and Abby wanted to compete against Candy Apples. I do think Abby did it out of spite though because she was angry that Kalani and Kira brought in Alexa to choreograph her solo.
julia kern they can’t win if they compite in the teen group is easy you are not into competitions, I am! And the routine was prepared to 9-11 level! She has faith! But they can’t win if they get into teen category
To be fair it was when the girls were younger and didn't really dance teen yet and kalani had another solo nia wouldn't dance at all if she was pulled out of the group
I know a lot of people think that maddie is the best dancer in the aldc but I disagree cuz to me kalani is the best cuz she is very graceful and all the moves that she does are so clean and she can act just as good as maddie.I know somebody will disagree with me but thats my opinion and lets be real its kinda ture😀
I don't get why people are commenting that Kalani should have danced in the group I get it she was in her home town and she should dance but she had solo before the group dance if Abby would have took Nia out she would have traveled to Arizona from California for no reason so saying Nia shouldn't have danced is unfair on her
Nienke Galis they didn't want to dance in the older category. So JoJo was of the youngest dancers, if they pulled her nothing would happen and they would still have to dance in an older category which they didn't want. Since Kalani was the oldest and she was already a teen she was making the group dance go into a teen category instead of a junior category where it should have been in the first place.
Abby didn't want the girls to perform in the teen category because only nia and kalani are teens so if she pulls kalani only one of them is a teen and they dance in the junior category
In a dance competiton, there was two or three of us that were 12/11, most of them were 6/7/8, and the way the competition was, the oldest age was the category, so the 6 year olds were dancing against the 12 year olds and we won
Tbh Kalani is actually about 8 or 9 months older than Nia, but I think Abby did it obviously out of spite, fear of losing, and because the last time they were too old, Abby pulled Nia in the beginning of Season 5, I think
I’ve been dancing in the elite senior division since I was 13.... if they can’t handle competing with people 2-3 years older than them, how will they make it in the senior division as 15 year olds competing against 18 year olds? This show is such bullshit and I’m pissed it went on for so long. People who are non dancers and are unfamiliar with competition dancing, are watching this show actually thinking this is how the dance world is. I can’t believe they sit there and try to make my art and sport look awful when it’s theirs too. I know some of it is the producers but why would you let someone make your number 1 passion look bad? Dancing has always been belittled and looked down upon as if it’s so easy and it’s full of drama. It’s all about the money these days and it really irritates me they would go so low.
Why did she practice this dance for a week and to be told that you’re taking out of the group literally 5 minutes before you perform on stage Abby is just afraid of competition
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Guys it was either Kalani who had already done a solo which she won in or Nia who had done no performances whatsoever. Personally i think abby made the right choice
I feel so bad for Kalani. First of all, it is her home town where many people flew in to see her dance. Secondly, wouldn't Abby have known the age division prior to the competition? She's been doing this long enough to know the age divisions! Lastly, Kalani was already blocked into the number and everything. Pulling her out just messed everything up and put more stress on the other girls due to having to reblock the whole number. If I were Abby I would have had the girls compete with Kalani in the dance in the older division. It just isn't fair to Kalani
Honestly Kalani should've been pulled Nia or Kalani should've been pulled because it would bring the age up. If Nia was pulled she wouldn't be able to DANCE at all. If Kalani was pulled she still would've had a solo I actually agree with Abby's decision for once.
With Kalani who had w solo it was 11.666666667 which would round up to 12. This was probably mid September based off somethings. Without Kalani it's 11.4. it almost had to be after Maddie's birthday and before Kalani's otherwise they shouldn't have had problem.
You know what? Year Before last, on my team, me and one other girl brought our age from 8-9 to 10-11. SO WHAT! Our teachers had faith in us, and we got 2nd at one comp, 1st at one, 3rd at one, and 2nd at another one! So yea.
Anika Nicole Gan because it would've been unnecessary to pull her... Doing the math, the average age with Kalani pulled is 11.2(or 11 when you round it) so they would've been fine in the 9-11 age category. But if Kalani was still in the number, the average age would be 11.5(which would be rounded to 12 because of the stupid rules in math where if the last number is 5 and above, you round up) and they would be in an older age category when the dance was choreographed for the 9-11 age category
BUT SHE LIED ABOUT NIAS AGE. SHE SHOULDVE PULLED NIA. SHE LIED ABOUT HER AGE AND THEN BACK HANDED THE OTHER GIRL BY THROWING HER OUT AND THEN LOSSING HER. CAUSE ABBY IS A DUMB FUCK. THATS WHY SHE WENT TO PRISON.
Let's be real. If you had to choose between Kalani (strongest dancer) and Nia (tied for weakest with Kendall at that point), you pull Nia out unless you have a personal vendetta against Kalani.
Abby...if you think you're team is all that great then why can't you just put them in the teen division! Yeah I get that JoJo and Kenz are young and shouldn't be in the teen division, but Nia and Kalani shouldn't be going against 9 year olds! That's like putting the mini's against the juniors!
Geez calm down Abby. She should have known this before. And she's just afraid to lose against older kids. This is proof she only wants to win. She could have challenged the kids and had them dance against older dancers.
They should have thought about this before going to the stupid competition like wth they should have resolved that issue before arriving and they just thou about literally minutes before going on stage
Abby is doing the best for her team only two are teens it's not about if she doesn't think there doing good enough to go in teen I think I'm the only one who agrees who Abby oh but if Abby pulled nia out the world would end I swear Abby pulled Kalani because Kalani already had a great solo it wasn't about revenge or anything it was about what's best for the team not just kalani
That's stupid only reasons why she pulled her out is 1 she wants just to compete with candy apples when she beat them like 200 times and 2 bc she thinks her kids can win if they are in the kid division instead of teen division I feel bad for her
If she really had faith in her team then she would let them dance teen
Tori rosenthal I know but there not teens they need more practice now practicing is better than losing
There's having faith in someone and there's being realistic. JoJo and Mackenzie are not ready to dance teen
Tori rosenthal that's right
Lolololol
Tori rosenthal they made a routine for 9-11! The routines and the choreography turn more hard because the age, is not like if she has faith or not!
It really sucks because like Kira said. So many people came in to see Kalani dance. If she was already put into the number than she deserves to be in it. They pay for this don't they? Who agrees?
Aurora Koroluk she already danced before the number she did a solo before the actual group
Abby is just afraid of losing. She is scared of moving up to the teen group... WIMP ABBY!
Abby knows nor her or her girls are good enough to dance teens. Club Dance studio could dance a division older and they'd still place well
My name is Narwhal in season 5 the girls could barely win in the junior division let alone teen
My name is Narwhal I
My name is Narwhal she doesn't look afraid, she just prefers the junior division.
Ana Sofía Rovalo Vera Because she knows she will win in the Junior division
Abby is such a liar. If you do the math, taking Kalani out didn't pull the group under 12. Either she lied to the competition and put them on Nader where they should, or she did it out of spite to Kira. Also I'm 99% sure the candy apples group were all teens soooo...
Debbie Spiro it's the average. everyone was 11 or under but nia who was 13 and kalani who was 14
Debbie Spiro she actually wasn't lying because if you average out their ages WITH Kalani it's 12 but without kalani it's around 11 or so
Debbie Spiro Kalani was born in 2000 and joined aldc permanently in 2015 she was 14 or 15 years old they would have been in the teen division Nia was 13 and the age was 12 kenzie was 10 jojo was 12 maddie was 13 and kendall was 12 birthday where by January first so either u r right about abby lying because everyone was 12 or older except kenzie and u need 3 people to put it in junior or that competition had stupid birthdates they should have competed in teen and if they didn't Kalani would have been taken out and Nia or possibly maddie
Kenzie was 10. Jojo was 11. This may have even been before Maddie's 12th birthday idk for sure. It was most likely before Kendall turned 12. Kenzie turned 10 3 months before Maddie turned 12. Nia would've recently turned 13 basing knowledge she has birthday close to Kenzie's. And Kalani said she's 13 she has September birthday like Maddie so was before her birthday. Kalani birthday is later in September. Which means definitely Kendall still 11. December birthday. What happened was Maddie was or turned 12. Then Kalani turned 14. Then Kendall turned 12. Then new year happened then JoJo turned 12.
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I don't think anyone in the comments understands that before this incident kalani had already done a solo, which she in fact won with, so all the people who came out to see her would have already danced, what's the issue if she doesn't dance in the group if she has just performed an amazing solo. It wouldn't be fair if she pulled Nia out as she didn't have any other dance that day other than the group so she would've wasted her time travelling to that competition to not do any dance whatsoever. Unlike kalani who HAD A SOLO
Louise Mutlu ikr everyone didn't know the story
Louise Mutlu I know right everyone just thinks it unfair that Kalani was pulled someone needed to be pulled and it should have been Kalani since she just did a solo
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Great point!
Honestly who else wanted them to go on stage and mess up and get second to the candy apples. Just because Abby took Kalani out of the dance?
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did you realize at the beginning next to the door it said drama
These comps are done at high schools. It's probably the school drama studio
Yeah, that's actually my second hour class...not joking
Cansy Lose cat I realized
Kassidy Culbert frfr ?
As a dancer.. this is disgusting. She doesn't have any faith in her dancers to allow them to move up to their rightful age group?? So terrible. "In teen where they belong" that's ridiculous
julia kern At that time Nia and Kalani were the only kids who actually were teens though and Abby wanted to compete against Candy Apples. I do think Abby did it out of spite though because she was angry that Kalani and Kira brought in Alexa to choreograph her solo.
Natalie Walker she has no faith in her girls
julia kern they can’t win if they compite in the teen group is easy you are not into competitions, I am! And the routine was prepared to 9-11 level! She has faith! But they can’t win if they get into teen category
but none of the girls apart from nia and kalani are teens so it’s not fair to make them all dance teens!?
To be fair it was when the girls were younger and didn't really dance teen yet and kalani had another solo nia wouldn't dance at all if she was pulled out of the group
Alicia Norman maddie Kendall now and kalani were teens they were 12 so teen but not legally teen
I know a lot of people think that maddie is the best dancer in the aldc but I disagree cuz to me kalani is the best cuz she is very graceful and all the moves that she does are so clean and she can act just as good as maddie.I know somebody will disagree with me but thats my opinion and lets be real its kinda ture😀
And abby's favourite in AUDC was kalani too but I guess she likes maddie more
Aisha Rihana it's true
I like maddie
Yeah, my favourites are Kalani and Mackenzie
By the way "kalani" is a word in finnish, it means "my fish"😂
Aisha Rihana I agree
I don't get why people are commenting that Kalani should have danced in the group I get it she was in her home town and she should dance but she had solo before the group dance if Abby would have took Nia out she would have traveled to Arizona from California for no reason so saying Nia shouldn't have danced is unfair on her
''Kenzie is ten'' **zooms in on her curling her own hair** lmao no hate! i just think it's funny and cute
7thButera im 10 and i cant curl my hair, i wouldnt want my hair on flames.
At least she kept Nia bc she is a original member but I feel so bad for Kalani
They are all soooo good at dancing
They should have just pulled Jojo out but OK.
Nienke Galis i'm not a Jojo stan but that sound stupid because Jojo is like 10 to 12, its not about who is better its about age.
A Gonzalez Yeah, so if they pulled her out, they could've danced in the der category couldn't they?
If they had removed Jojo, nothing would have happened, they will continue in the senior category for Kalani.
A Gonzalez I tried to type older so I meant that without Jojo, they could've just danced in the older (senior) category.
Nienke Galis they didn't want to dance in the older category. So JoJo was of the youngest dancers, if they pulled her nothing would happen and they would still have to dance in an older category which they didn't want. Since Kalani was the oldest and she was already a teen she was making the group dance go into a teen category instead of a junior category where it should have been in the first place.
Abby didn't want the girls to perform in the teen category because only nia and kalani are teens so if she pulls kalani only one of them is a teen and they dance in the junior category
In a dance competiton, there was two or three of us that were 12/11, most of them were 6/7/8, and the way the competition was, the oldest age was the category, so the 6 year olds were dancing against the 12 year olds and we won
1:27 LOL look at jojo's face when she thought she's in trouble😂😂
And Nia is technically older than Kalani so... Shouldn't BOTH of them be pulled?!!! GEEZ ABBY!
Tbh Kalani is actually about 8 or 9 months older than Nia, but I think Abby did it obviously out of spite, fear of losing, and because the last time they were too old, Abby pulled Nia in the beginning of Season 5, I think
Kalani was born in 2000, and Nia in 2001👍
Kiara F 😴😵🤗
Milla Astrid nia said "I'm 13 "
My name is Narwhal no nia is a year younger Kalani is 16 and nia 15
My Favorite Dancers
1.Kalani
2.Maddie
3.Mackenzie
4.Chloe
My favorite Dance Moms
1.Kira
2.Melissa
3.Christi
what season is this
she comes back in Abby MAKE UP YOUR DANM MIND
Everyone who is hating on nia needs to stop because they are both amazing dancers but I just like to say nia went on Broadway😄😄😄😄
I’ve been dancing in the elite senior division since I was 13.... if they can’t handle competing with people 2-3 years older than them, how will they make it in the senior division as 15 year olds competing against 18 year olds?
This show is such bullshit and I’m pissed it went on for so long. People who are non dancers and are unfamiliar with competition dancing, are watching this show actually thinking this is how the dance world is. I can’t believe they sit there and try to make my art and sport look awful when it’s theirs too.
I know some of it is the producers but why would you let someone make your number 1 passion look bad? Dancing has always been belittled and looked down upon as if it’s so easy and it’s full of drama. It’s all about the money these days and it really irritates me they would go so low.
Why did she practice this dance for a week and to be told that you’re taking out of the group literally 5 minutes before you perform on stage Abby is just afraid of competition
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I miss Maddie and McKenzie #bestfriendsforever ❤️
Abby doesn't care about how the poor girl feels she wanted to do the dance poor KALANI she probably worked SOO hard
Favorite Dancers are,
1.Kalani
2. Mackenzie
3.Nia
Yea
Poor Kalani. It was her hometown and her dad flew in to see her. She had friends and family there to see her dance and Abby pulled her from the group.
Come on Abby
Guys it was either Kalani who had already done a solo which she won in or Nia who had done no performances whatsoever. Personally i think abby made the right choice
Yo it’s sad 😞
How many r watching this at 2017 😃
Yes i agree With Jill we need to beat them😂
I feel so bad for Kalani. First of all, it is her home town where many people flew in to see her dance. Secondly, wouldn't Abby have known the age division prior to the competition? She's been doing this long enough to know the age divisions! Lastly, Kalani was already blocked into the number and everything. Pulling her out just messed everything up and put more stress on the other girls due to having to reblock the whole number. If I were Abby I would have had the girls compete with Kalani in the dance in the older division. It just isn't fair to Kalani
Why the hell is everyone hating on Nia. Bishhh really?🤦🏽♀️
HAHA I am laughing for no reason
Abby your so sacred there's no challenge or the kids
Its about winning not challenging and improving to Abby
TOOBBBYYY
gawd I just realised mackenzie is 1 year older than me :(
Vera's Vlogs u do know shes 13 know
0:00 well at least they're in the right room...
Wait did she get kicked out the team??????🤔
Why does it matter about the age they are a group that sticks together.
Honestly Kalani should've been pulled Nia or Kalani should've been pulled because it would bring the age up. If Nia was pulled she wouldn't be able to DANCE at all. If Kalani was pulled she still would've had a solo I actually agree with Abby's decision for once.
Does Abby's throat ever hurt??
I feel so bad for Kalani
Abby never wants to pull the group up to teens cause shes afraid of losing
oof Maddie's birthday is my birthday aswell, September 30th
I feel so sorry for kalani
With Kalani who had w solo it was 11.666666667 which would round up to 12. This was probably mid September based off somethings. Without Kalani it's 11.4. it almost had to be after Maddie's birthday and before Kalani's otherwise they shouldn't have had problem.
some times I just wish the girls would just talk and stick up for their self
First of all she could have faith it’s just the group piece she mad could been to place in juniors and not in teen
Savage Abby
There in phoinex arizona i live there
If I was Holly I would be so happy, that Abby chose Nia to stay in the dance because Abby usually hates Nia. No hate.
I think kalania should be in the dance she’s so good
I don't know why people r calling abby a wimp or afraid it was the junior elite competition team not teen
You know what? Year Before last, on my team, me and one other girl brought our age from 8-9 to 10-11. SO WHAT! Our teachers had faith in us, and we got 2nd at one comp, 1st at one, 3rd at one, and 2nd at another one! So yea.
Girl why is you putting make-up u always look beautiful
They should have taken out someone else not kalani she is really good and she brings a lot to the team
I love maddy and Mckenzie
Just a question, why can’t Nia be taken out? Isn’t she 13 too?
Anika Nicole Gan because it would've been unnecessary to pull her... Doing the math, the average age with Kalani pulled is 11.2(or 11 when you round it) so they would've been fine in the 9-11 age category. But if Kalani was still in the number, the average age would be 11.5(which would be rounded to 12 because of the stupid rules in math where if the last number is 5 and above, you round up) and they would be in an older age category when the dance was choreographed for the 9-11 age category
BUT SHE LIED ABOUT NIAS AGE. SHE SHOULDVE PULLED NIA. SHE LIED ABOUT HER AGE AND THEN BACK HANDED THE OTHER GIRL BY THROWING HER OUT AND THEN LOSSING HER. CAUSE ABBY IS A DUMB FUCK. THATS WHY SHE WENT TO PRISON.
Jasper Kuningas when did she lie about Nia's age??
LIE ABOUT HER AGE😂😂
Kalani is the best one
UH WHAT ABOUT PEYTON IN THE EARLY DAYS?!? She was WAY older than the rest.
Let's be real. If you had to choose between Kalani (strongest dancer) and Nia (tied for weakest with Kendall at that point), you pull Nia out unless you have a personal vendetta against Kalani.
If it was not her home town I would agree with abby
Ok but nia’s 13 and Kalani is 12. ThirTEEN is a teenager now twelve.
wait, but the old team had Brooke and she was 16 too
Nia is older than kalani she's in the group
That's stupid, I'm 12 on an 18u team
This proves that they wouldn’t win if they were in teen category
Tbh I feel like now should have been taken out bc Kalani has better technical qualites
I honestly thought she would pull nia out😑
rajesh kumar nia is younger. So no.
Amber Samuel Are you crazy? Kalani is 100000000x better. Nia can hardly point her foot😂 and Kalani is the best dancer on the team
Texting Stories nia and kalani are like the same. Nia just hasn't gotten enough chances to show that.
+Amber Samuel hahahaha have you lost you're mind
Amber Samuel you're delusional
Abby...if you think you're team is all that great then why can't you just put them in the teen division! Yeah I get that JoJo and Kenz are young and shouldn't be in the teen division, but Nia and Kalani shouldn't be going against 9 year olds! That's like putting the mini's against the juniors!
What about when they went against a studio blue and Abby took Mackenzie out and they had to compete as teens, when they were much younger ?
They lost that's why Abby is refusing to compete up
But nia was in it and she was older than kalank
Trophy takers.
Geez calm down Abby. She should have known this before. And she's just afraid to lose against older kids. This is proof she only wants to win. She could have challenged the kids and had them dance against older dancers.
Is gianna a assistant for abby? Because gianna is always there with abby
They should have thought about this before going to the stupid competition like wth they should have resolved that issue before arriving and they just thou about literally minutes before going on stage
She should've have broken the news in a different way
If they HAD to take somebody out I would take out Nia I know this sounds mean but like it’s kalani’s hometown her dad is there! come on Abby!!!
she's scared of losing
I hate how Abby always said something last minute
I feel bad for kalani and kira abby didint had to raise her voice 😡
Abby is doing the best for her team only two are teens it's not about if she doesn't think there doing good enough to go in teen I think I'm the only one who agrees who Abby oh but if Abby pulled nia out the world would end I swear Abby pulled Kalani because Kalani already had a great solo it wasn't about revenge or anything it was about what's best for the team not just kalani
wow miss abbay is a mean taecher
Never thought I'd say that but abbys right
Thats messed up, just let them dance in the higher age division
how did I end up here ?
and why jojo is always inclouded?
Did you see her face like a shocked\mad\ OMG,face
Abby, Nia was thirTEEN oml.
Twenty Øne Crybabies that Phanic! at the discø but kalani was older then Nia. Don't act like you know it all.
Okay but kalani was 13 too don't act like YOU know it all ...
Most the time Abby doesn't know what she is doing
That's stupid only reasons why she pulled her out is 1 she wants just to compete with candy apples when she beat them like 200 times and 2 bc she thinks her kids can win if they are in the kid division instead of teen division I feel bad for her
Abby is scared for the girls dance against older people