"The City of God," by Saint Augustine of Hippo (Part 1/2) | Graham H. Walker and David J. Theroux

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  • In this first of two sessions hosted by the C.S. Lewis Society of California, Dr. Graham H. Walker discusses the landmark book, "The City of God," the highly influential work of Christian philosophy by Saint Augustine of Hippo (Aurelius Augustinus Hipponensis, 354-430 A.D.).
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    • "The City of God," by ...
    First published in the first part of the 5th century A.D., this expansive theological work provided an articulate defense of Christianity against the claims that it led to the downfall of Rome in the years preceding its publication. It outlines a citizenship that goes beyond the worldly, the political, and the self-centered, instead focusing on a place where the inhabitants are devout, God-focused, and seeking grace. In examining history with a clear perception of good and evil, Augustine was in effect interpreting human actions in relation to eternity. He contrasts earthly and heavenly cities to great effect, in addition to inspecting pagan religions, Greek philosophers like Plato and Aristotle, and the Bible.
    A monumental influence upon Augustine’s contemporaries, "The City of God" is today considered a seminal and foundational book of Christianity philosophy as the basis for Western Civilization itself. The book has established Augustine as one of the world's most important thinkers and a central Church Father of the Catholic, Protestant, and Eastern Orthodox Churches. "The City of God" further continues to resonate widely with both Christians and non-Christians in discussing the ideas and institutions of liberty, law and justice, civic virtue and human well-being.
    This session focuses on the following sections of "The City of God:"
    • Book V: Chapters 9-20 (especially Ch. 12-13) (Political virtues of pagan Rome)
    • Book XI: Chapters 1, 4, 9-10, 16-18, 22-28 (Order of creation)
    • Book XII: Chapters 1-8, 25-27 (Nature and vice)
    • Book XIII: Chapters 1-5 (The fall of man)
    • Book XIV: Chapters 1, 3-7, 11-15, 28 (especially Chapters 11-15, 28) (Human nature, love, will, dynamics of human fallenness)
    Graham H. Walker is the Executive Director the Independent Institute.
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Komentáře • 121

  • @DeepakYadav-lj1gq
    @DeepakYadav-lj1gq Před 6 měsíci +7

    In 3 hours my exam starts and here I am.

  • @pauliewalnuts2727
    @pauliewalnuts2727 Před měsícem

    Superb lectures- glad there are still people standing up for Christianity in the universities

  • @TruthHasSpoken
    @TruthHasSpoken Před 3 lety +14

    Though his total corpus runs around 5 million words (approximately 100 - 200 page books), I recommend reading, protestants especially, his *Tractates on the Gospel of John.* This man was a Catholic Christian, a Catholic Bishop of Hippo in what is today Tunisia, a Doctor of the Church, and a declared Saint. He was there in both Hippo and Carthage in the late 4th century when the Bishops decided the canon of scripture (27 New Testament books, 46 Old Testament books).

  • @tracywilliamsliterature
    @tracywilliamsliterature Před 3 lety +46

    I began reading Augustine's Confessions about a month ago (November 2020)... what a beautiful book! What a beautiful man! Thank you for this talk and upload, I found it extremely helpful... Not sure if I believe or not but if I convert it will be thanks to Augustine. Best wishes to all...

    • @dominicsomola402
      @dominicsomola402 Před 3 lety +4

      I pray for you!!!

    • @maggiesace389
      @maggiesace389 Před 3 lety +3

      You will...convert. You will. And you wouldn't be the only convert with the help of the GREAT St. Augustine!!!

    • @tracywilliamsliterature
      @tracywilliamsliterature Před 3 lety +4

      @@maggiesace389 reading City of God this summer...

    • @kramsdrawde8159
      @kramsdrawde8159 Před 3 lety +2

      I pray you surrender to truth as I did several years ago now, Jesus said " I AM way, the truth, and the life, no man(or woman) comes to the father but through me" and Luke later writes " for there is no other name under heaven given unto men(and women) by which we MUST be saved.

    • @theespjames4114
      @theespjames4114 Před 2 lety

      Can you believe some apologist infer Augustine had a sex problem?

  • @gracemertz6066
    @gracemertz6066 Před 3 lety +19

    Thank you so much for this! I was trying to find a good resource for "The City of God" since I don't have the time to comb through the whole work and these insights are wonderful!

  • @joecastellanos4122
    @joecastellanos4122 Před 2 lety +12

    Is there a better youtube video on any subject to be found today?
    For me, this two part lecture is solid gold. No modern thinker gets it better than Augustine, who lived some 1600 years ago. In these three hours or so, one gets pure truth told in a concise manner and very clearly. God doesn't have to be such a big mystery in many areas. God is good. Through Augustine, he speaks.

    • @rhondasampsel2806
      @rhondasampsel2806 Před 2 lety

      How Beautiful I don't know how this got on here but I Thank God it did! Divine Intervention?? I LOVED it!

    • @sundriedplatypus
      @sundriedplatypus Před rokem +1

      It's so profound and beautiful it makes me want to smash my own nose.

    • @inTruthbyGrace
      @inTruthbyGrace Před 9 měsíci

      no. God did NOT speak through Augustine... He spoke through Jesus and since they disagree VASTLY, Jesus warns you that He defines a disciple: "if you continue *_IN MY WORD_* then you are my disciple indeed, and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free*_ (John 8:31-32) and MANY will come in my name (Matt 24:5)... and MANY will hear Jesus say "depart from me I NEVER knew you" (Matt 7:21-27)

  • @TT-tx5ng
    @TT-tx5ng Před 2 lety

    I enjoy listening to this brilliant talk on a glorious Saturday summer morning. Thank you for this and all the other talks that I'll be listening to. This puzzle in my head is starting to come around.

  • @lifesagiftt
    @lifesagiftt Před 2 měsíci

    If only I had teachers like you❤️‍🩹🤗

  • @eduardocavanagh
    @eduardocavanagh Před 4 lety +22

    Very illuminating exposition. Buenos Aires, june 20. A surprising benefit of the Covid 19 quarantine is to have time for spiritual thinking, with talks like these one.

  • @gonzaloderomana775
    @gonzaloderomana775 Před 2 lety +6

    Very well done, thank you!

  • @raymk
    @raymk Před rokem +2

    Fantastic talk to guide me through the City of God

  • @Chandransingham
    @Chandransingham Před 4 lety +4

    Illuminating. Thanks. Seen in London in March 2020.

  • @anthonytuscano7983
    @anthonytuscano7983 Před 2 lety +9

    St.Augustine, please pray for us

    • @jordantheriverman6143
      @jordantheriverman6143 Před 2 lety +5

      Augustine has his face set on Jesus. There is one mediator between God and man: Jesus Christ. Go to him

    • @adrineabassian4517
      @adrineabassian4517 Před 2 lety +5

      @@jordantheriverman6143 St. Augustine of Hippo was a Catholic Bishop. It was because of St. Monica his mother who interceded for him that he came to Christ.
      Sts. Agutine and Monica, pray for us 🙏🏻

    • @HangOn31
      @HangOn31 Před rokem

      Saints (Believers in Jesus Christ) were PRAYING ___FOR___ each other, not ___TO___ each other
      Praying to the dead is WITCHCRAFT

  • @rexrocks4337
    @rexrocks4337 Před 4 lety +6

    Inspiring
    I loved this discussion

  • @steverobinson3414
    @steverobinson3414 Před 6 měsíci

    Sure wish I had teachers like Dr. Walker. Fascinating.

  • @jwgreer5
    @jwgreer5 Před rokem +3

    Graham Walker is a Christian gentleman and a brilliant intellect. Glad to find this.

  • @yvonnegonzales2973
    @yvonnegonzales2973 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the details

  • @jasonctsa
    @jasonctsa Před 4 lety +9

    Thanks for providing this resource on YT.

  • @mlumbra8874
    @mlumbra8874 Před 2 lety

    Superb!!!!

  • @torceridaho
    @torceridaho Před 4 lety +3

    Fascinating to see how Greek and Latin speculative philosophical thought skews interpretation of what are essentially Jewish texts and more particularly and essentially the idea of covenant between God and Israel. A subtle and not so subtle usurpation of the irrevocable gifts and calling. Romans 11:28-29. Take a look at Leo Baeck's "Romantic Religion".

  • @cyrilsimoes8328
    @cyrilsimoes8328 Před 2 lety

    Thanks.
    Allan

  • @thesmallchocolateguy9331
    @thesmallchocolateguy9331 Před 2 lety +4

    I wonder why humans are always proud instead of giving credit to God who used St. Augustine or any other apostles, they become proud in a mere mortal human being

  • @theespjames4114
    @theespjames4114 Před 3 lety +8

    Thanks for sharing this wonderful subject! And yes i would certainly set through another, especially if I only had 20 minutes to live.. 😂

  • @benified6920
    @benified6920 Před rokem +1

    If that is what happened to Rome then America will go 10 fold.

  • @danfarrand9072
    @danfarrand9072 Před 6 měsíci

    I was struck when I read about the Nicean creed that it included a cannon that upheld the sanctions on those who served as soldiers in the Roman army such that they should be denied communion for different periods of time. So its hard to know what to believe when it comes to judging how Christianity weakened the Roman army at a time when several other things were also contributing to the breakdown of the Roman army.

  • @victormeza7859
    @victormeza7859 Před 10 měsíci

    WHEN ONE DIGS, ❤️ FIRST MUST
    SELECT THE APPROPRIATE TIME,
    PLACE, DETERMINE END RESULT.
    STOP AND SEEK HELP WHEN STUCK🔥

  • @davidwforrest777
    @davidwforrest777 Před rokem +1

    I appreciated the talk. I have a copy of City of God (R.W.Dyson) It would be helpful if you had the Book and Chapter, though the page numbers would not match.

  • @steveareeno65
    @steveareeno65 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Well done by the professor. Very good lecture and introduction to city of God. I might actually attempt to read it

  • @KommentarSpaltenKrieger
    @KommentarSpaltenKrieger Před 3 lety +5

    The "city" of God turns into the "state" of God in the German translation of the original title "De civitas dei". The "civita" seems to be the "commonwealth" or the "communion" or something similar. Both, cities and states might be examples for what is meant but the actual meaning could be gradually different from both translations.

    • @LovelyLouise2123
      @LovelyLouise2123 Před 2 lety

      well, no, not really. "Stadt Gottes" translates exactly as "City of God". The word "Stadt" is what you might call a 'false friend'. It looks like a word English speakers are very familiar with, 'state', but it is not that; 'Stadt' translates as 'city'. The English word 'state' is 'Staat' in German. Also, was soll ein Spaltenkrieger eigentlich sein?

    • @KommentarSpaltenKrieger
      @KommentarSpaltenKrieger Před 2 lety

      @@LovelyLouise2123 Kommentarspaltenkrieger, wenn schon. Ansonsten weiß ich gar nicht, worauf du mit deinem Kommentar abzielst. Das Buch heißt auf deutsch nicht "Die Stadt Gottes", sondern "Der Gottesstaat".

  • @cyrilsimoes8328
    @cyrilsimoes8328 Před 2 lety

    No mentions the Stigmata of Saint Monica.
    Allan.

  • @skcoll3086
    @skcoll3086 Před 6 měsíci

    ... I totally agree with that student comment... [20' longer than an hour] ... Anyway ... It doesn't flow ...

  • @hawthorne1504
    @hawthorne1504 Před rokem

    Faith before reason or reason before faith?

  • @steverobinson3414
    @steverobinson3414 Před 6 měsíci

    If Jesus is immutable and hence unchangable due to his being constubstantial with the Father, then why would the devil try to tempt him during the 40 days in the desert? I think that Jesus was mutable while he was alive by the fact of his humanity, and the factor that made him essentially immutable at that time was his obedience. Of course, after he rose and ascended he was fully Devine and then immutable.

  • @Romans5.1
    @Romans5.1 Před 8 měsíci

    Was there really a full Bible in his days ?

  • @michaelmchugh3987
    @michaelmchugh3987 Před 2 lety +1

    What book did he write first “Confessions” or “City of God”?

    • @independentinstitute
      @independentinstitute Před 2 lety +3

      He wrote Confessions first, then City of God. Apparently he began writing City of God about 10-12 years after completing Confessions. They are very distinct in purpose and tone from one another. CG is sprawling and multidimensional, while Confessions had been rigrously autobiographical. It is interesting to see how Augustine's thought developed over time after these great works: on some subjects he got clearer and on others fuzzier. Some point to the Retractations as the best formulation of Augustinian wisdom. I do not entirely agree with this, since what he got right in On the Freedom of the Will he later got wrong in the Retractations. -GW

    • @michaelmchugh3987
      @michaelmchugh3987 Před 2 lety

      @@independentinstitute Thank you.

  • @gzsaliga
    @gzsaliga Před rokem

    Lol…sorry your students (as referenced in your lecture) found you boring. That was an amazing lecture!

  • @alonzomccloud4530
    @alonzomccloud4530 Před rokem

    Just like the lot God controls all things.

  • @carmenburnham1088
    @carmenburnham1088 Před rokem

    I am not sure what the credo of your society is but I know that C. S. Lewis was not a Calvinist and chose not to be Catholic. I find it interesting that Saint Augustine’s theology was the springboard for Calvinism. However, it seems to me C. S. Lewis’s Faith seemed to need more refining and cleansing from his occultic experiences of his youth. His faith seemed to be filtered through that bent and he needed to be purged through the purity of The full meaning of the Trinity since Lewis beliefs were deep they still held the thread of spiritualism.

  • @ingridlinbohm7682
    @ingridlinbohm7682 Před rokem

    God is not a moral relativist but the Roman's were in part. However if they valued vainglory, praise, above all things then even the Romans were not moral relativists either. The end we love most creates its own moral absolutism because every thought and action is aimed at the realisation of that goal. Saint Augustine abandoned his former life in order to try and obtain his Christian goal, end. We are only moral relativists when we are confused about what the best goal is.

  • @WoundedEgo
    @WoundedEgo Před 3 lety

    Is Augustine's term "City of God" his alias for the scriptural term "Kingdom of God", his alias for "the ἐκκλησία", his alias for "New Jerusalem", or, is he creating a different metaphor more specific to the Roman context?

    • @WoundedEgo
      @WoundedEgo Před 3 lety

      I think there is a clue here: czcams.com/video/G_mmvpsFAYs/video.html
      What scripture might he be referring to? New Jerusalem?

    • @andrieslouw3811
      @andrieslouw3811 Před rokem

      If you were jewish it would be the new jerusalem

  • @owlnyc666
    @owlnyc666 Před rokem +1

    I have been told that the "ultimate" reason that Satan and the other naughty angels turned away from God was due to PRIDE. God did allow Satan to tempt first Eve and then Eve tempted Adam. In their PRIDE they wanted to be like God and know the difference between good and bad. That is why they were naked. They did not know it was a sin to be naked. Just as it is not a sin for animals do be naked. It was only after they ate the forbidden fruit that they knew it was wrong. It was only after they and all their defendants were evicted from Eden. It was only after they were evicted that they were told to be fruitful and multip!y 🤔😎

    • @HangOn31
      @HangOn31 Před rokem

      GOD is NOT the AUTHOR of EVIL, but HE WILLS it... see JOB.

    • @owlnyc666
      @owlnyc666 Před rokem +1

      @@HangOn31 I did read jOB. It is one of my favorite books in the Tankah. My interpretation is that God did "allow" Satan to commit evil against Job in order to prove to Satan that Job would remain loyal. It is my understanding that God created EVERYTHING!. IF God created "good" THEN God created "evil'. There is the idea that God created evil for a good purpose.

    • @HangOn31
      @HangOn31 Před rokem

      @@owlnyc666 Isaiah 45:7
      *I form the LIGHT, and create DARKNESS; I make PEACE, and create CALAMITY;* (a Putin?)
      *I, the LORD, DO ALL THESE THINGS*

    • @HangOn31
      @HangOn31 Před rokem

      @@owlnyc666 Romans 9:21-22-23
      *Does not the POTTER, have power over the CLAY, from the same lump to make one vessel for HONOR and another for DISHONOR? What if GOD, wanting to show His WRATH and to make His POWER KNOWN, endured with much LONG-SUFFERING the vessels of WRATH, prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the RICHES of His GLORY, on the VESSELS of MERCY, which He had prepared, beforehand **___for His GLORY___*
      *..prepared beforehand..* again predestination.. the Bible is full of it
      Romans 3:5-6
      *But, if our UNRIGHTEOUSNESS DEMONSTRATES the RIGHTEOUSNESS of GOD, what shall we say? Is GOD UNJUST who inflicts WRATH? (I speak as a man) CERTAINLY NOT! For then, how would GOD JUDGE the WORLD?*

  • @BogeyCDogRosey
    @BogeyCDogRosey Před 2 lety

    He writes about bent affection in On Teaching Christianity

  • @GeertKok
    @GeertKok Před rokem

    Romans 13 not 15

  • @zacharyharvey9658
    @zacharyharvey9658 Před 3 lety

    Bookmarking 36:40

  • @christopherk222
    @christopherk222 Před 4 lety +3

    47:26 I think this misrepresents "the Benedict Option". . . you should have Ron Dreher speak some time too ! 🙂

  • @kaliki76
    @kaliki76 Před 2 lety

    Augustine believed in original sin, not the ability to turn the will

    • @HangOn31
      @HangOn31 Před rokem +1

      The Original SIN is in the Bible. Augustine didn't introduce it.
      *..as by one man sin entered the world, and death through SIN and death spread to all because all sinned*

  • @aness482
    @aness482 Před 2 lety +1

    God say :
    Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allâh is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no Ilâh (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilâh (God -Allâh). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them.
    Quran

    • @jordantheriverman6143
      @jordantheriverman6143 Před 2 lety +3

      I’ll put my trust in Jesus Christ (who rose from the dead) over Muhammad. Christian’s have peace with God and a certain hope.

  • @conorborak9921
    @conorborak9921 Před 3 lety +3

    it's ah-GUST-in, not AU-gust-een

    • @maggiesace389
      @maggiesace389 Před 3 lety +1

      After being frustrated by everyone's "augusteen", and hearing an older priest tell me "its AUGUSTUN"!!! I searched for reason is pronounced AUGUSTUN when it is spelled "ine"= een. Because his name is Aurelius Augustinus....hence, Augustin.

    • @karinberryman2009
      @karinberryman2009 Před 3 lety

      That’s how the French pronounce it.

    • @mlumbra8874
      @mlumbra8874 Před 2 lety +2

      You say au-GUS-tin, I say AU-gus-teen… au-GUS-tin, AU-gus-teen! au-GUS-tin, AU-gus-teen! 😆.

    • @stylembonkers1094
      @stylembonkers1094 Před 2 lety

      Not correct.

  • @rexrocks4337
    @rexrocks4337 Před 4 lety +5

    Luther I read was unable to control his carnal lust

    • @StBindo
      @StBindo Před 4 lety +4

      Luther was praised even by his enemy's for his pious life.
      The only argument that is made to say he was carnal is the fact that he chose to marry a few years after the start of the reformation.
      Was it carnal to desire marriage?

    • @hunivan7672
      @hunivan7672 Před 4 lety

      Most people can't

    • @hunivan7672
      @hunivan7672 Před 4 lety

      Most people can't

    • @WoundedEgo
      @WoundedEgo Před 3 lety +3

      Only when he was drunk (which was all the time)!

    • @WoundedEgo
      @WoundedEgo Před 3 lety +1

      @buymebluepills I find "love" to be problematic in Christianity in that if someone does not agree with certain propositions (most notably the dogma of the Trinity) then that person is "the enemy". In other words, in addition to (or perhaps instead of) behaviors, "love" is conditioned on assent to dogma. And while a person is accepted despite a great many behaviors, certain behaviors that are relatively "victimless crimes" are deal breakers. It complicates the idea of Christian love to me.

  • @hadasah6309
    @hadasah6309 Před 3 lety

    Am I the only one concerned about the content of this book? 🤯 Nobody gave me this in CCD, I can say that much. I don’t like this. I’m just so confused.

    • @maggiesace389
      @maggiesace389 Před 3 lety +2

      CCD as in 1970s on, CCD? Even seminarians were getting jipped in late 60s/early 70s. Not being taught Augustine. Hell, now, CCD classes are no longer teaching Aquinas. You have no reason to be concerned about any of Augustine's content...he's solid.

  • @gloriosatierra
    @gloriosatierra Před 3 lety

    The City of Man loves burgers and guns. ✌

    • @astewar3
      @astewar3 Před 2 lety

      The City of Man loves CRT