Making a legal precedent for false advertising, fraud, scams, and literally lying to take people's money is okay to them? What lawyer would take their case?
I absolutely hate how abused the first amendment argument is. The freedom to say and do what you want doesn’t mean you’re above potential consequences. If these companies continue parading around saying their 90% sugar cereal is healthy they can do that, but that doesn’t mean nobody will critique them or tell others that it’s not good for you. EDIT: Also won’t prevent getting into legal trouble. Good luck companies you’re gonna need it.
You just have yet to realize that laws don't matter. The only thing that matters is how rich and well connected you are. There is a reason why corruption is legalized to an extent (Yes, lobbies are corruption. Calling it a different name doesn't change the facts). Legal doesn't mean moral, it just means those in power allow the general public.
Its not being abused? The first amendment is a protection we have to protect us from the government’s over reach. This is literally them fighting against the government (FDA) because the government is literally limiting their speech. Even if you think they are lying, lying is a freedom you have as citizen.
Back in the days tobacco companies advertised smoking healthy and men and women should do it. But when people started to get cancer and die, they kept saying it is not their fault.
And eventually the government decided to put warning labels on their products. Complications from obesity is one of the most common reasons for death, if not the most common (heart disease). I’m perfectly fine with the government putting a warning on things they deem dangerous. It’s not like these cereal companies will go bankrupt, people will still buy the product just like they still buy cigarettes and vapes
Organic is a USDA term that brands have to meet specific guidelines to use. Corporations get around this by labeling things as "naturally grown" and similar terms to trick consumers into thinking it's healthy.
Organic doesn't even mean much. For example you can pump a cow full of antibiotics and growth hormones, and when you butcher the cow you can sell their blood and bones as an organic input.
The only healthy cereals are the ones that are essentially raw. With no added sugars. Most commercial cereals are literally just 80% sugar and enough of other ingredients to make it so that their labels aren't lying to you
It's nuts! They're delusional and have this constant mindset that they are always right. The wrong people in chat definitely bring down the quality of the video.
they’re braindead. People in chat were saying no sugar is good as if humans don’t need sugar to survive or something. They really just straight up forgot fruits and sugar canes exist
I'm glad the FDA is making some effort to limit the amount of sugar, at least, when labeling. That'd make the discourse more widespread and more efforts would be put into research. 10% of sugar limit per one serving is not bad.
@@GeraltOfArabia yes and those are the same argument about the amount of sugar It could be 99% sugar and still healthy and that’s per serving Like honey is mostly sugar yet it’s considered healthy yet glucose syrup isn’t considered healthy even though they both have equal amounts of sugar and are both the same sugar being glucose. Cereal isn’t unhealthy unless you eat too much but that’s the same with literally everything. Calling cereal unhealthy on the other hand is just wrong though and misrepresentative
@@Alphoric there are other things in honey that make it more healthy. Cereal is just carbs and 90% sugar. Also I've never heard someone say you need to eat jars of honey because it's healthy. Cereal with such high sugar contents are unhealthy and those cereals are usually marketed to children which is a factor in the rising (childhood) obesity epedemic
Also not all honey is healthy as there are a lot of brands that are artificial honey which is usually just high fructose corn syrup so a lot of honey brands are also unhealthy
OAT IS GOAT, OAT IS GOAT (to the curious who may be interested in an alternative to cheap cereals, you can add stuff in plain oatmeal like blueberries, honey, yoghurt, etc. to spruce it up)
I am going to school to become an RDN and anyone who claims cereals are healthy needs a reality check. The fact that they WANT to lie to us says everything. JUST LOOK AT THE NUTRITION LABELS GUYS. Takes two seconds to see “added sugars”. FIBER is key y’all. Sugar is not your enemy, BUT “added sugars” are.
Dehydrated fruit don't have any added sugar, but the lack of water in dehydrated fruit makes it extremely easy to overeat the sugar that's naturally inside those fruits. The fact is, all sugars are metabolized the same and if you have too much of it, regardless of if it's added or not, you're harming your body. Fiber can only do so much.
One of the biggest scams was saying it was healthy as “part of a balanced breakfast”. Where they’re saying basically you can eat cereal in a healthy diet as long as you eat other things not loaded with added processed sugars and corn syrup at the same time.
Kellogg's is pushing really hard rn. They are also making ads that tell you to eat cereal for dinner. Which is probably why they want to be able to call them healthy.
They should just advertise it for what it is, a dessert. I know multiple people who eat cereal as their late night dessert and I personally try my best to treat soda as a dessert
I guarantee you that if it doesn't work, these boxes will have serving sizes of like 3 pieces each just to still call it healthy. It's like how tic tacs gets to say sugar free. To get that you have to have lower than x per serving, and 1 tic tac is a serving. They are almost entirely made of sugar.
Their thought process: "In order to market as healthy, we have to keep the sugar content to less than 2.5 grams per serving?! This means we need it to ACTUALLY be healthy, we just cant do that."
I would also like to see how the dense nutrients in the cereals actually boost our health. Plenty of nutrients once your body has enough you just pee out the excess with no side effects. Do they stuff it with those so they can puff out their nutrients? Like there are so many minerals and nutrients both helpful/harmful and inbetween. The wording they use makes me think they are using the lowest common denominator words so that theoretically no one can say they are wrong. And i love sugar cereals.
It’s not like they even have to change their product, just don’t call it healthy. Plenty of people don’t care and will still buy it, but just don’t try to trick people who are attempting to watch their health carefully. & it’s okay to have unhealthy things in moderation as a treat.
@@jewels3846 Sugars are nutrients that come in different forms. They could be carbohydrates and they are the easiest nutrient for the body to use through insulin, thus leading to insulin disorders when you abuse it. Minerals are that of elements like iron, magnesium, sodium, potassium, etc. They are usually always healthy except for really high or really low doses (example hypercalcemia/hypocalcemia). The thing is, those cereals DO have nutrients and minerals but it's very unbalanced and favors an excess amount of sugars both from carbs and refined or added leading to lipogenesis due to the stimulation from insulin. My point is it's not entirelt false but misleading. Fortunately, we do not actually need to consume large amounts of carbs or sugar in order to live since the body can make its own but usually at the cost of carb's quick effect.
I don't know if anyone mentioned this but "organic" does have a legal definition (it's just doesn't have any bearing on nutritional content), if you look at an organic food, somewhere on the packaging it says "USDA Organic" meaning the ingredients had to meet some minimum USDA standard. But that aside, my expectation (hope) would be that the FDA wins this lawsuit since they have a long precedent of defining what terminology can be used, plus this doesn't seem too different from the "this product is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness" disclaimer a lot of "health foods" have to put on the label
So the cereal companies used money from lobbyists to get cereals into school lunch programs and then say they must be healthy and they should be allowed to say so as they’re part of the school lunch program?
For the companies. Your not stating an opinion, spreading information, or entertainment. Your marketing a product to people, that is not free speech and its a standard you have to follow. And for those in his chat that wanted to say AMERICAN cereal... 1 Stop being obsessed. 2 Thats a whole other issues where product/medicine corporations, Politian, and some rich elites have been changing and subverting capitalism laws for a slow change into corporatism with specifics aimed at and to take advantage of American original success from before 2005.
This! Also since when is a corporation an individual. Because to my understanding (Canadian here) isnt the 1st amendment for individuals(maybe just citizens/residents) but basically humans? I think they want to make this precedence because they are using the term "corporate free speech" hoping people do not recognize that by having to say that it is corporate free speech and not just free speech because it doesnt exist. They want to make it exist. Again if I am totally wrong sorry. Between crap memory and not growing up with it I only kinda know the gist of the ones everyone shouts abouy
Same energy as “our cigarettes are not only the smoothest but doctor recommended, yes we paid for the studies that’s just how sure we are of our products”
it really hurts my head thinking about how this is the world we live in, it’s not surprising. like ofc people will do bad things that hurt others out of self interest but it’s just such a daily part of our lives, forever chemicals, pesticides etc. its why people are so jaded and cynical, it really fucks with your sense of morality and the value of fellow humans. there are kids rn who will grow up to be defense lawyers for these corporations, become heads of departments in the government that serve corporations. it’s depressing, having access to this information 24/7 is not healthy
I work in a grocery store and I remember for a while they kept playing this i think it was general mills commercial that was literally telling parents to feed their kids cereal for dinner as an "easy/lazy" option and claiming it would be a healthy substitute
As if labeling them appropriately would even affect their sales. People who buy sugar cereals will not be turned away by the lack of lying labels proclaiming it to be "healthy."
Dried fruit are no healthier than added sugars. The amount of fiber you get from dried fruits are heavily outweighed by the amount of sugar that's left after water is dehydrated.
Added sugars and natural sugars are near the same in how you process them. That's mainly a cope by food companies to sound healthier. The reason you can eat fruit without being swamped in sugar is because they have fiber with it, so it doesn't immediately jack you up.
Also cause the concentration of sugar is probably less. I’m no food scientist but a handful of strawberries probably has way less sugar than a handful of cereal .
10:53 We trust the packaging because of the FDAs rules. Jesus. If they can put whatever on the rest of the package, and because there are so many different items that intentionally use the longer chemically sounding sames, that if it says healthy... It should have to hit some threshold to be able to use it Whats next. I could see a slippery slope if they are successful of Peanut Free being allowed on packaging but using the same machines that do peanut products. After all. A tiny font of text in the nutrional data just has to say whether the facility was peanut free. No peanuts directly in the product? Slap the big Peanut Free big on the front because hey, that tiny font in the back said the facility wasnt peanut free so cross contamation liability is the buyers fault. 🤦♀️ Cause freedom of corporate speech Imma go pretend the world doesnt suck
i like how in the statement about how sugar is more important than just making food palatable, two of the four listed benefits were directly related to palatability. "texture" and "flavor complexity" if not "bulk" as well
Sugars in food nowadays have gotten so bad, several years ago after many dental issues I tried dieting by removing sugar as much as possible and what do you know I hadn't had a single cavity and I feel a lot better and have more energy and sleep better.
There is no way a court could decide in their favor. Most everyone must now know these cereals are all sugar. I only eat them like I would dessert or candy. Just for the taste and in moderation. I haven’t eaten cereal as a breakfast since I was kid, back when people thought they were semi healthy and didn’t realize how much sugar was in there. And my parents only bought cereals like plain Rice Krispies, plain Cheerios, grape nuts, or plain corn flakes. And they always put fresh fruit on them with milk.
People don't realize the size of the serving is one cup to one and a half cups. A cereal bowl usually holds two cups. Most people eat double the serving to be full... Read your cereal boxes. I started watching my sugar intake and reading labels years ago.
@@georgebennett715 exactly. When you grow up eating everything overly sweet, you become accustomed to it and find it hard to enjoy food that is not. Creating a lifetime of unhealthy food choices and likes. And making many Americans obese and unhealthy, which in turn supports the messed up and overpriced medical system/insurance.
Thanks to them changing the ingredients a few years back to most of my favorites, I mainly cut back on it. Oddly enough, the less sugary ones (Corn Flakes) are really hard to finds and expensive compared to Cinnamon Toast Crunch which is always on sale. Even if they win the lawsuit, the reverse uno card could be drawn with false advertising.
And then one day, the folks that put dye, marshmallows and cartoon characters together for the well-being of all realized they weren’t being wretched enough
I thought most people normally buy those cereals because it's convenient and taste good not because it's healthy. Alot of these sugary cereals are no different from fast food and soft drinks. It's unhealthy and the science proves it as well but that doesn't deter people from buying them. Same thing with cigarettes. So I don't see why cereal companies would care about a small label. They aren't going to suffer any losses if they remove the FDA were to remove the healthy label. People are still going to buy it. 18:55 I'm not even American but I do remember that whole controversy about saying fat bad, sugar good. It's honestly one of the dumbest claims I've heard. Like yes too much fat is bad but too much sugar is also bad if not can be worse because excess sugar does turn into fat.
Them trying to make an economic argument for cereal being affordable and whatnot you can tell is totally disingenuous because they would absolutely fight violently to to prevent devaluing their product to the point that everyone can feed themselves healthily.
It’s been a while so pardon my surface-level understanding, but I recall being taught in school that food companies have free reign over what they can say on their label - as long as all ingredients are always listed on the back. For years, these “zero-sugar” and “fat-free” foods have bent the rules and used other fat and sugar-based additives to make up for the lost ingredients. Not sure if times have changed or food companies are greedy for more.
No with fat free they can have a fat content and still call it fat free I think with yogurt it’s about 2-5% can be called fat free Also sugar is far healthier than the alternatives and humans rely on glucose for energy that’s why our blood sugar level is important. There’s a really big problem with people thinking sugar and high caloric foods are unhealthy when they’re not unless you over indulge. But to say cereal is unhealthy is just absolutely wrong and natural sugars or unnatural sugars it’s still the same product glucose it doesn’t make a difference it’s not like honey which has other Chemicals that are beneficial it’s just glucose which natural or unnatural it’s the same thing.
The word "organic" is in fact regulated by the USDA, but it's possible to deviate substantially from the Platonic ideal of organic farming and still qualify; also, it does not imply directly that the food is healthier than non-organic variants. The terms "enriched" and "fortified" mean respectively that vitamins and minerals that *are*, or *are not*, in the raw foods that are processed to make the finished product are added in after processing; a common use is in enriched white bread, which has vitamins added back in that are normally in wheat bran, while white bread uses only flour ground from the endosperm.
Fruit sugar is chemically identical to sugar derived from sugar cane, or any other source for that matter. That's why you can get alcohol from fermenting any fruit or vegetable. It's why people who go on all fruit diets suddenly start having a lot of the same problems that people who chug a 2L of Mountain Dew every day have.
I'm not that big of a fan of cereal not because it's unhealthy but because the cornmeal in it will get stuck in my teeth which then produces a disgusting taste in my mouth
The argument they could of made is that it’s up to us to read the nutrition facts. Because even if they put healthy on the box the nutrition facts cannot lie. Every company puts BS on their products to sell them. I’m not mad at the cereal company because the nutrition facts and ingredients are very clear of what’s in them. It isn’t their fault people don’t read that stuff. Dog food is a prime suspect of BS-ing on the packaging. I don’t believe shit that dog food packaging says. I read the ingredients to make sure there is nothing bad for my dog in it. And dog food is worse cause I feel like I heard that they are allowed to lie about the ingredients.
Its weird that almost every breakfast item isn't really healthy at all but 90% of the time its just more ment to get you to lunch. Like toast is the only normal healthy item but I default to the raisin bread for toast its just awesome with butter.
@@x360xPATO who eats just fruit for breakfast, like you want to add an orange as a side to eggs fine but be itself that's not gonna work when your doing construction from 8am-7pm.
For 30 years Honey smacks were called Sugar Smacks until the 1980s when they changed it to Honey Smacks. I think it's obvious why they changed it they changed it to take the attention away from the sugar aspect.
Fruit Loops lists a serving size of only 1/3 of a cup. That must be way smaller than most people eat a time. And they list 12 grams of sugar per (1/3 cup) serving alone, or 22 grams of sugar with skim milk. ON THE FLIP SIDE Raisin Bran lists a serving size of 1 and 1/4 cup. And shows 20 grams of sugar alone, or 26 grams of sugar with skim milk. So you have to take into consideration the serving size listed when looking at sugar content.
Unlike generic terms like wholesome and healthy, organic certification absolutely does have a meaning. No synthetic pesticides, no GMOs, and no human sewage are the three primary regulations, and there are others like keeping cows off concrete and off antibiotics.
Added sugar products So glucose syrup that’s the same as naturally occurring glucose as they’re both glucose which is just a carbohydrate the things we use for all our energy
All of this is long overdue. Look at what these companies have to change when it comes to their locations in other countries. Then look at the differences between our country and theirs. It's sickening what they allow in our food. FDA must have been in a coma that fifty years or maybe they just wanted pay offs? Who knows....
This is why I eat 12 spoonfuls of sugar every morning. Bypass the middle-man.
Hell yeah. As the founding fathers intended
Now you're thinking with portals.
You’re just cutting the carbs
Making a legal precedent for false advertising, fraud, scams, and literally lying to take people's money is okay to them? What lawyer would take their case?
Sometimes having the most money is all you need. Cereal companies sue for less than this.
Lawyer Reacts, of course would take tue case
@@DeathsFlagShip lawyers have taken far scummier cases than this
I mean, lawyers have a reputation for being slimy to begin with. It can't be too difficult to find someone willing to take that case.
Lawyers have no soul.
These guys would send their own parents to prison if it meant getting a Quick buck
I absolutely hate how abused the first amendment argument is. The freedom to say and do what you want doesn’t mean you’re above potential consequences. If these companies continue parading around saying their 90% sugar cereal is healthy they can do that, but that doesn’t mean nobody will critique them or tell others that it’s not good for you.
EDIT: Also won’t prevent getting into legal trouble. Good luck companies you’re gonna need it.
You tell ‘em brothurrr
And isn’t false advertising illegal
You just have yet to realize that laws don't matter. The only thing that matters is how rich and well connected you are. There is a reason why corruption is legalized to an extent (Yes, lobbies are corruption. Calling it a different name doesn't change the facts). Legal doesn't mean moral, it just means those in power allow the general public.
exactly, this is like promoting cigarettes as an air alternative
Its not being abused? The first amendment is a protection we have to protect us from the government’s over reach. This is literally them fighting against the government (FDA) because the government is literally limiting their speech.
Even if you think they are lying, lying is a freedom you have as citizen.
Back in the days tobacco companies advertised smoking healthy and men and women should do it.
But when people started to get cancer and die, they kept saying it is not their fault.
And eventually the government decided to put warning labels on their products. Complications from obesity is one of the most common reasons for death, if not the most common (heart disease). I’m perfectly fine with the government putting a warning on things they deem dangerous. It’s not like these cereal companies will go bankrupt, people will still buy the product just like they still buy cigarettes and vapes
translation: it's a violation of our company's rights if we can't scam the general public to serve dessert for breakfast
Organic is a USDA term that brands have to meet specific guidelines to use. Corporations get around this by labeling things as "naturally grown" and similar terms to trick consumers into thinking it's healthy.
Organic doesn't even mean much. For example you can pump a cow full of antibiotics and growth hormones, and when you butcher the cow you can sell their blood and bones as an organic input.
Naturally flavored is another one
theres a difference between actual organic and "USDA organic"
The only healthy cereals are the ones that are essentially raw. With no added sugars. Most commercial cereals are literally just 80% sugar and enough of other ingredients to make it so that their labels aren't lying to you
??? Bro honey exists and it's good for you
You can easily make a good cereal that doesn't destroy you
@@greenbean4422 Cold oats with honey or brown sugar is a good substitute.
@@greenbean4422 since when did bare cherrios destroy you
Honey bunches and oats are good…
Because the ones filled with sugar are meant for kids, they’re crazy colored like neon green for a reason, no normal adult is going to eat it.
But…. “It’s apart of this healthy breakfast”
More like “apart from a healthy breakfast”
@@drilltotheheavens1695 brooooo I’m DEADDDD that’s so perfect
It should be desert like ice cream
@@staringcorgi6475 that’s how I eat it.
I swear, Charlie's chat is slower than me in 8th grade. Troglodytes.
Are they getting dumber or have they always been this way
yeah especially when they can eat all the candy crap if they want . just don't argue that it's healthy or that "X & X" are worse .
It's nuts! They're delusional and have this constant mindset that they are always right. The wrong people in chat definitely bring down the quality of the video.
they’re braindead. People in chat were saying no sugar is good as if humans don’t need sugar to survive or something. They really just straight up forgot fruits and sugar canes exist
@@littledenzel you just described everyone on every platform ever including yourself
I'm glad the FDA is making some effort to limit the amount of sugar, at least, when labeling. That'd make the discourse more widespread and more efforts would be put into research. 10% of sugar limit per one serving is not bad.
Sugar isn’t unhealthy tho like it just isn’t
@@Alphoric Who’s saying sugar isn’t healthy? We’re talking about the quantity of sugar contained in products per serving.
@@GeraltOfArabia yes and those are the same argument about the amount of sugar
It could be 99% sugar and still healthy and that’s per serving Like honey is mostly sugar yet it’s considered healthy yet glucose syrup isn’t considered healthy even though they both have equal amounts of sugar and are both the same sugar being glucose. Cereal isn’t unhealthy unless you eat too much but that’s the same with literally everything. Calling cereal unhealthy on the other hand is just wrong though and misrepresentative
@@Alphoric there are other things in honey that make it more healthy. Cereal is just carbs and 90% sugar. Also I've never heard someone say you need to eat jars of honey because it's healthy. Cereal with such high sugar contents are unhealthy and those cereals are usually marketed to children which is a factor in the rising (childhood) obesity epedemic
Also not all honey is healthy as there are a lot of brands that are artificial honey which is usually just high fructose corn syrup so a lot of honey brands are also unhealthy
I don’t even eat cereal anymore because it’s like taking a bite out of candy bar early in the morning
You could have the less sugary ones, and just cut up some fruit. It's what I do.
Cereal propaganda is coming to an end, Oatmeal is the superior breakfast
Facts. People call it gross but it's because they just don't know how to make it slap like it can
OAT IS GOAT, OAT IS GOAT
(to the curious who may be interested in an alternative to cheap cereals, you can add stuff in plain oatmeal like blueberries, honey, yoghurt, etc. to spruce it up)
Cereal has always been pretty gross. Not a fan of soggy food.
I am going to school to become an RDN and anyone who claims cereals are healthy needs a reality check. The fact that they WANT to lie to us says everything. JUST LOOK AT THE NUTRITION LABELS GUYS. Takes two seconds to see “added sugars”. FIBER is key y’all.
Sugar is not your enemy, BUT “added sugars” are.
Dehydrated fruit don't have any added sugar, but the lack of water in dehydrated fruit makes it extremely easy to overeat the sugar that's naturally inside those fruits. The fact is, all sugars are metabolized the same and if you have too much of it, regardless of if it's added or not, you're harming your body. Fiber can only do so much.
@@bigdaddynero it has added sugar if the nutrition label says it does. There’s sugar and added sugar on there separate. Just gotta read it homie
@@LoFoSho Try reading my comment again after you figure out how to read.
good thing those cereals don't even exist in EU
Y'all are lucky for that
Yeah it’s almost crazy thinking that officials in other places actually care about their people 😅
Unlucky for you i guess *sighs in 400 pound sugar eater*
So y’all don’t got honeycombs?
It's still bad on that front in EU . We just regulated the worst crap , namely "corn syrup" , and established loose (but still existing) standards
One of the biggest scams was saying it was healthy as “part of a balanced breakfast”. Where they’re saying basically you can eat cereal in a healthy diet as long as you eat other things not loaded with added processed sugars and corn syrup at the same time.
Kellogg's is pushing really hard rn. They are also making ads that tell you to eat cereal for dinner. Which is probably why they want to be able to call them healthy.
They should just advertise it for what it is, a dessert. I know multiple people who eat cereal as their late night dessert and I personally try my best to treat soda as a dessert
I guarantee you that if it doesn't work, these boxes will have serving sizes of like 3 pieces each just to still call it healthy. It's like how tic tacs gets to say sugar free. To get that you have to have lower than x per serving, and 1 tic tac is a serving. They are almost entirely made of sugar.
One mustard bottle containing 1,500 servings and being 0 calories per serving.
Charlies gotta stop arguing with chat. Its a literal amorphous blob of varying intelligence, you cannot win.
I pray this is taken to court, Kellogg and their strongman company are humiliated in front of the world, and this starts the FDA's redemption arc.
Thank you again America for making Scottish eating habits seem healthy. Crackin' as usual Charlie.
Their thought process: "In order to market as healthy, we have to keep the sugar content to less than 2.5 grams per serving?! This means we need it to ACTUALLY be healthy, we just cant do that."
I would also like to see how the dense nutrients in the cereals actually boost our health.
Plenty of nutrients once your body has enough you just pee out the excess with no side effects. Do they stuff it with those so they can puff out their nutrients?
Like there are so many minerals and nutrients both helpful/harmful and inbetween.
The wording they use makes me think they are using the lowest common denominator words so that theoretically no one can say they are wrong.
And i love sugar cereals.
It’s not like they even have to change their product, just don’t call it healthy. Plenty of people don’t care and will still buy it, but just don’t try to trick people who are attempting to watch their health carefully. & it’s okay to have unhealthy things in moderation as a treat.
@@jewels3846 Sugars are nutrients that come in different forms. They could be carbohydrates and they are the easiest nutrient for the body to use through insulin, thus leading to insulin disorders when you abuse it.
Minerals are that of elements like iron, magnesium, sodium, potassium, etc. They are usually always healthy except for really high or really low doses (example hypercalcemia/hypocalcemia).
The thing is, those cereals DO have nutrients and minerals but it's very unbalanced and favors an excess amount of sugars both from carbs and refined or added leading to lipogenesis due to the stimulation from insulin. My point is it's not entirelt false but misleading.
Fortunately, we do not actually need to consume large amounts of carbs or sugar in order to live since the body can make its own but usually at the cost of carb's quick effect.
I don't know if anyone mentioned this but "organic" does have a legal definition (it's just doesn't have any bearing on nutritional content), if you look at an organic food, somewhere on the packaging it says "USDA Organic" meaning the ingredients had to meet some minimum USDA standard. But that aside, my expectation (hope) would be that the FDA wins this lawsuit since they have a long precedent of defining what terminology can be used, plus this doesn't seem too different from the "this product is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness" disclaimer a lot of "health foods" have to put on the label
'Long overdue,' is the best possible way to describe almost any issue we seem to currently have to deal with today. (Edit: IMO.)
Because FUCK false advertising laws!
Also, they USED to say Doctor/Pediatrician recommended in like the 60's.
So the cereal companies used money from lobbyists to get cereals into school lunch programs and then say they must be healthy and they should be allowed to say so as they’re part of the school lunch program?
I'm glad I've stopped eating cereal for the most part.
For the companies.
Your not stating an opinion, spreading information, or entertainment.
Your marketing a product to people, that is not free speech and its a standard you have to follow.
And for those in his chat that wanted to say AMERICAN cereal...
1 Stop being obsessed.
2 Thats a whole other issues where product/medicine corporations, Politian, and some rich elites have been changing and subverting capitalism laws for a slow change into corporatism with specifics aimed at and to take advantage of American original success from before 2005.
This!
Also since when is a corporation an individual. Because to my understanding (Canadian here) isnt the 1st amendment for individuals(maybe just citizens/residents) but basically humans?
I think they want to make this precedence because they are using the term "corporate free speech" hoping people do not recognize that by having to say that it is corporate free speech and not just free speech because it doesnt exist. They want to make it exist.
Again if I am totally wrong sorry. Between crap memory and not growing up with it I only kinda know the gist of the ones everyone shouts abouy
Same energy as “our cigarettes are not only the smoothest but doctor recommended, yes we paid for the studies that’s just how sure we are of our products”
Im from the uk and our cereals are so low in sugar the mainstream ones are no more than 8 grams of sugar per serving
it really hurts my head thinking about how this is the world we live in, it’s not surprising. like ofc people will do bad things that hurt others out of self interest but it’s just such a daily part of our lives, forever chemicals, pesticides etc. its why people are so jaded and cynical, it really fucks with your sense of morality and the value of fellow humans. there are kids rn who will grow up to be defense lawyers for these corporations, become heads of departments in the government that serve corporations. it’s depressing, having access to this information 24/7 is not healthy
False advertising and mild child endangerment
Why are there always contrarian apologist chat members in stream?
If the cereal people win this I will lose all faith in this country
you are this far into biden and you still have faith in this country?
Lol stop worrying about these self destructive idjits. Just do you, spread a bit awareness, can't help those who won't figure it out
you still have faith?
@@roxorsoxor like any other president has been any better lol. lmao even
@@roxorsoxor Atleast he's not Ronald and Donald
I work in a grocery store and I remember for a while they kept playing this i think it was general mills commercial that was literally telling parents to feed their kids cereal for dinner as an "easy/lazy" option and claiming it would be a healthy substitute
*thinks about the fact that when I was a clinically morbidly obese kid in elementary school that my favorite food was honey smacks*
As if labeling them appropriately would even affect their sales. People who buy sugar cereals will not be turned away by the lack of lying labels proclaiming it to be "healthy."
Kashi Berry Fruit Crunch is fire. 9 grams of sugar in the whole box. 21 grams of protein per serving. Actual dried fruit. Try it Charlie
Dried fruit are no healthier than added sugars. The amount of fiber you get from dried fruits are heavily outweighed by the amount of sugar that's left after water is dehydrated.
Added sugars and natural sugars are near the same in how you process them. That's mainly a cope by food companies to sound healthier. The reason you can eat fruit without being swamped in sugar is because they have fiber with it, so it doesn't immediately jack you up.
Thank you i'm glad more people are understanding that being "natural" or even certified organic has no bearing on nutritional content
Also cause the concentration of sugar is probably less. I’m no food scientist but a handful of strawberries probably has way less sugar than a handful of cereal .
Cereal companies going matrix-blaming mode wasn't in my bingo card
Sega should sue the FDA for using their font
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't breakfast cereals 90% sugar?
Yes
Jesus that's disgusting
@@nakaeri1361 you say that as if honeycombs taste bad
@@Jamalcrawford123 I don't go around eating honeycombs so I wouldn't really know
@@Jamalcrawford123 honey comb is a garbage fucking cereal...
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We trust the packaging because of the FDAs rules. Jesus.
If they can put whatever on the rest of the package, and because there are so many different items that intentionally use the longer chemically sounding sames, that if it says healthy... It should have to hit some threshold to be able to use it
Whats next. I could see a slippery slope if they are successful of Peanut Free being allowed on packaging but using the same machines that do peanut products.
After all. A tiny font of text in the nutrional data just has to say whether the facility was peanut free. No peanuts directly in the product? Slap the big Peanut Free big on the front because hey, that tiny font in the back said the facility wasnt peanut free so cross contamation liability is the buyers fault. 🤦♀️
Cause freedom of corporate speech
Imma go pretend the world doesnt suck
I just stopped eating cereal all together. So much damn sugar and 3 bowls won’t fill me up. Just a waste of eating 😭
I love the idea that in another dimension or whatever they were actually getting sued by Fred Flintstone, and Lucky The Leprechaun
I’ve never noticed a box of honeycombs and shit like that sayin “healthy”
i like how in the statement about how sugar is more important than just making food palatable, two of the four listed benefits were directly related to palatability. "texture" and "flavor complexity" if not "bulk" as well
This is so wrong I hate corporations so much
Good now I can sue them for false advertising. Claiming their cereal is healthy when it’s harmful.
I believe multi grain cheerios are probably the most healthy big brand cereal
Sugars in food nowadays have gotten so bad, several years ago after many dental issues I tried dieting by removing sugar as much as possible and what do you know I hadn't had a single cavity and I feel a lot better and have more energy and sleep better.
Why the fuck do people call it “Oat-me-uhl” when it’s clearly “Oat-meal”
There is no way a court could decide in their favor. Most everyone must now know these cereals are all sugar.
I only eat them like I would dessert or candy. Just for the taste and in moderation. I haven’t eaten cereal as a breakfast since I was kid, back when people thought they were semi healthy and didn’t realize how much sugar was in there. And my parents only bought cereals like plain Rice Krispies, plain Cheerios, grape nuts, or plain corn flakes. And they always put fresh fruit on them with milk.
They're trying to argue false advertisement
My mother literally stopped buying Fruit Loops many years ago due to the stuff they were putting in them at that time.
These cereal companies need to join the republican party if they think their lies should be protected by law
People don't realize the size of the serving is one cup to one and a half cups. A cereal bowl usually holds two cups. Most people eat double the serving to be full... Read your cereal boxes. I started watching my sugar intake and reading labels years ago.
Cereals like Cinnamon Toast Crunch or Frosted Flakes should be known as treats and NOT essential breakfast
Same energy as that video from '94 of big tobacco telling congress nicotine is not addictive.
I wish the FDA would ban High Fructose Corn Syrup in all foods sold in the US.
I remember when I was young and we visited the states eating some toast and wondering why the fuck it was so sweet haha
@@georgebennett715 exactly. When you grow up eating everything overly sweet, you become accustomed to it and find it hard to enjoy food that is not. Creating a lifetime of unhealthy food choices and likes. And making many Americans obese and unhealthy, which in turn supports the messed up and overpriced medical system/insurance.
Why I eat oatmeal. I can control what I add and change my flavors on a daily basis
Im glad my breakfast switched to scrambled eggs
Thanks to them changing the ingredients a few years back to most of my favorites, I mainly cut back on it. Oddly enough, the less sugary ones (Corn Flakes) are really hard to finds and expensive compared to Cinnamon Toast Crunch which is always on sale.
Even if they win the lawsuit, the reverse uno card could be drawn with false advertising.
This is why I eat all salty snack foods for breakfast, like salt & vinegar chips! They contain no sugar!
Lol 😂
And then one day, the folks that put dye, marshmallows and cartoon characters together for the well-being of all realized they weren’t being wretched enough
Who puts “skim milk” on their kids cereal? Most Americans buy 2% or whole milk.
I thought most people normally buy those cereals because it's convenient and taste good not because it's healthy. Alot of these sugary cereals are no different from fast food and soft drinks. It's unhealthy and the science proves it as well but that doesn't deter people from buying them. Same thing with cigarettes. So I don't see why cereal companies would care about a small label. They aren't going to suffer any losses if they remove the FDA were to remove the healthy label. People are still going to buy it.
18:55 I'm not even American but I do remember that whole controversy about saying fat bad, sugar good. It's honestly one of the dumbest claims I've heard. Like yes too much fat is bad but too much sugar is also bad if not can be worse because excess sugar does turn into fat.
Them trying to make an economic argument for cereal being affordable and whatnot you can tell is totally disingenuous because they would absolutely fight violently to to prevent devaluing their product to the point that everyone can feed themselves healthily.
Also, the bill of rights is for individuals who are citizens of the Republic. They DO NOT apply to businesses.
Lol the snack that fires back... In court
1) sugar isn’t unhealthy
2) they could just add as part of a balanced diet
I LOVE cereal, but I'm well aware that it's just extremely high sugar junk food lmao
It’s been a while so pardon my surface-level understanding, but I recall being taught in school that food companies have free reign over what they can say on their label - as long as all ingredients are always listed on the back. For years, these “zero-sugar” and “fat-free” foods have bent the rules and used other fat and sugar-based additives to make up for the lost ingredients. Not sure if times have changed or food companies are greedy for more.
No with fat free they can have a fat content and still call it fat free I think with yogurt it’s about 2-5% can be called fat free
Also sugar is far healthier than the alternatives and humans rely on glucose for energy that’s why our blood sugar level is important. There’s a really big problem with people thinking sugar and high caloric foods are unhealthy when they’re not unless you over indulge. But to say cereal is unhealthy is just absolutely wrong and natural sugars or unnatural sugars it’s still the same product glucose it doesn’t make a difference it’s not like honey which has other Chemicals that are beneficial it’s just glucose which natural or unnatural it’s the same thing.
It seems like you're completely wrong about your claims.
The word "organic" is in fact regulated by the USDA, but it's possible to deviate substantially from the Platonic ideal of organic farming and still qualify; also, it does not imply directly that the food is healthier than non-organic variants.
The terms "enriched" and "fortified" mean respectively that vitamins and minerals that *are*, or *are not*, in the raw foods that are processed to make the finished product are added in after processing; a common use is in enriched white bread, which has vitamins added back in that are normally in wheat bran, while white bread uses only flour ground from the endosperm.
You will eat the goyslop and be happy
The chat seems so brainwashed by these brands lol, 'what do you mean its not healthy' like what.
My nutrient-dense go-to breakfast is a sleeve of Oreos and a quarter bottle of Bailey's Irish Cream.
Holy fuck
30 is on the low end for sugary cereals, actually.
Personally, the healthy labels don’t even make me hate myself any less after I fuck up my fourth bowl
Fruit sugar is chemically identical to sugar derived from sugar cane, or any other source for that matter. That's why you can get alcohol from fermenting any fruit or vegetable. It's why people who go on all fruit diets suddenly start having a lot of the same problems that people who chug a 2L of Mountain Dew every day have.
It doesn't limit Cheerios from being labeled healthy! =p
Something similar happened when lead was being phased out of gasoline.
I hope sugar experiences the same fate.
oats, raisins, milk
Organic or " BIO " , at least in EU, means that the food doesn't have any artificial ingredients in it. it exists xD
Yeah, organic here means more or less the same.
I only eat cereal as a dessert or a treat. They shouldn’t advertise that it’s healthy, and people should also know how to read a nutrition label.
I'm not that big of a fan of cereal not because it's unhealthy but because the cornmeal in it will get stuck in my teeth which then produces a disgusting taste in my mouth
yeah its basically candy
lying is protected under free speech, that’s why you can accuse people of murder and cook ur books, it’s a right
Raisin Bran has fruit in it. It doesn’t have more added sugar than most of the other cereals.
The argument they could of made is that it’s up to us to read the nutrition facts. Because even if they put healthy on the box the nutrition facts cannot lie. Every company puts BS on their products to sell them. I’m not mad at the cereal company because the nutrition facts and ingredients are very clear of what’s in them. It isn’t their fault people don’t read that stuff. Dog food is a prime suspect of BS-ing on the packaging. I don’t believe shit that dog food packaging says. I read the ingredients to make sure there is nothing bad for my dog in it. And dog food is worse cause I feel like I heard that they are allowed to lie about the ingredients.
Admittedly, anybody who’s ever counted carbs knows 2.5g of sugar in a serving is keto levels. That’s not low sugar that’s virtually none.
Its weird that almost every breakfast item isn't really healthy at all but 90% of the time its just more ment to get you to lunch.
Like toast is the only normal healthy item but I default to the raisin bread for toast its just awesome with butter.
eat fruit XD
"toast only normal healthy food" oooof MMericans
Toast is far from the "only" healthy breakfast food lol
@@x360xPATO definitely eat fruit, i cant even comment on the toast situation lmao
@@x360xPATO who eats just fruit for breakfast, like you want to add an orange as a side to eggs fine but be itself that's not gonna work when your doing construction from 8am-7pm.
Calling toast healthy is... different. Even whole wheat toast is just "not that bad", but it definitely isn't "healthy".
For 30 years Honey smacks were called Sugar Smacks until the 1980s when they changed it to Honey Smacks. I think it's obvious why they changed it they changed it to take the attention away from the sugar aspect.
Normal Cheerios and rice crispys are probably the only 2 remotely healthy cereals you can buy ngl. Mfs are flavorless, and rice crispys are just rice
Ngl watching this made be go grab a bowl cereal
Fruit Loops lists a serving size of only 1/3 of a cup. That must be way smaller than most people eat a time.
And they list 12 grams of sugar per (1/3 cup) serving alone, or 22 grams of sugar with skim milk.
ON THE FLIP SIDE
Raisin Bran lists a serving size of 1 and 1/4 cup. And shows 20 grams of sugar alone, or 26 grams of sugar with skim milk.
So you have to take into consideration the serving size listed when looking at sugar content.
Unlike generic terms like wholesome and healthy, organic certification absolutely does have a meaning. No synthetic pesticides, no GMOs, and no human sewage are the three primary regulations, and there are others like keeping cows off concrete and off antibiotics.
Added sugar products
So glucose syrup that’s the same as naturally occurring glucose as they’re both glucose which is just a carbohydrate the things we use for all our energy
I'd say just eat organic cereal, but I've tried that hellish concoction and I wouldn't put that on anyone.
Try some others, I eat organic cereal all the time.
Why don't we all just eat salads and meat?
All of this is long overdue. Look at what these companies have to change when it comes to their locations in other countries. Then look at the differences between our country and theirs. It's sickening what they allow in our food. FDA must have been in a coma that fifty years or maybe they just wanted pay offs? Who knows....