The Evolution of Minecraft COMBAT (Alpha PvP - 1.16 PvP)
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Minecraft combat is one of its most loved and controversial elements. Present in the game since minecraft alpha in 2010, it has evolved significantly over the year into the pvp we see now. But 1.8 pvp and 1.9 pvp are very different, and pvp has evolved so much that it is unrecognisable from its original form. So what happened?
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so this is why you were asking questions on twitter
1.8.9
1.16.4
1.16.4 because of shields and I'm more used to it, also in 1.8.9 PvP it favors offense but on 1.16.4 it is more easy for the defense and you don't need to be crazy good to win
Ok
Shoutout to JamseyJam for helping visually show off the evolution of PVP.
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Ah yes my favourite, light machine bow and hotbar full of baguettes
God I want a pvp server that adds in machine gun bows for pvp
LMGB - Light Machine Gun Bow
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800RPM
.25 Damage
Low Accuracy
Thats a lot of sworda
@@average0 if you want, I can start a beta 1.7.3 (or even alpha!) server with those combat mechanics
So it's basically a French machine gunner loadout of ww1:
Chauchat machine gun
b a g u e t t e
Ya, the good ol days, when bows were miniguns, and boats were made out of glass
Yep that sums it up
As far as I love the older versions of Minecraft, and the old ways of doing things in the game...
nah, there's nothing good about these old boats...
The current boats are bajillion times better. I can still hear me screaming, as that boat breaks in the middle of the ocean for no reason, or when squid decided to float up for some reason.
@@_Killkor I mostly agree, but there in one good thing. Boat elevators. With current boats, unless they recently changed it, you can't go up in elevation else your boat will just start sinking.
@@gyroninjamodder you have bubble elevators since 1.13, which are much better and two-way even.
@@gyroninjamodder bubble elevators are sooooooo much better
“I always wait for my opponents to make a second mistake as that’s when I strike. Of course their first mistake was challenging me”- Techno
ah i see, a man of civilization
@@Sidharth_V_Jain ah I see, a fellow government hater
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
@@apaarsthoughts ah I see,a fellow comrade
@@averagegameenjoyer797 and skulls for the skull throne
Amazing how you can talk for 16 minutes without taking a breath
Lol
Ikr. Im not sure on how he does it
I’m pretty sure either circle breathing or good editing
[GD] Dr Life it's a joke dumbass
@@DrLifeGamer it was a joke dumbass
"And some had never even killed the ender dragon." Yep! That's me, 900h on Hypixel Skyblock.
Edit: it's now 1,890 hours
Haha I knew it!
I haven't beaten the game... i have played since 2014
@@imaguyandabeautifulbutterfly Lol surprised to see such a recent reply XD
@@truzi xd
And that’s why everyone should quit skyblock
Ahhh you forgot the most important variant of PvP
End Crystal PvP
Only on anarchy though, nobody else crystal pvps
i am disappointed at you MisterEpic. YOU FORGOT HOW MANY PLAYERS PLAY ANARCHY
@@TheMisterEpic 2b2t: sad crystal noises
@@TheMisterEpic Yep, that's true
@@TheMisterEpic crystal pvp is the only efficient combat on any vanilla server, even without hacks
1.8 was so fun playing on after a long day of school..
Ah nostalgia
@MinersTech22 That is young.
1.9 is better
@yupyipit true true
No. 1.9 is better
Alpha pvp is something else man
Indeed
I hope holding the left click to attack automatically was in the game.
Oh wait, The Combat Snapshot had that, so I hope that became an update.
Its weird to see that the Bedrock Edition uses no cooldown attack but Java does, which divides the community even more.
Yup bedrock pvp is like 1.8 but with shields
Note: shields also don’t get canceled by axes and if you smack someone who has their shield up the person who hit them gets flung back
@@RandomPerson-ls5xm i wish i knew sheilds fling you in the air when me and my friends fought in a 1 block wide bridge
I think they should be divided. Bedrock is made for 7 year olds on phones and java is made for more mature people with computers
@@2aj. I’ve been playing Minecraft Java for 7 years and I can tell you that having a computer does not make you more mature
@@Shelissssaa on bedrock edition, little kids hackustate pc players xD
I havent touched minecraft in years and this is god damn interesting, *I dont even remember my password for it bro*
Hahaha
@@bakedpotato_1396 only 2-3 years? Wow they got much quicker
*buys new minecraft account* problem solved!
@yupyipit yes it is... that's why this comment was sponsored by [insert generic password manager here]!
I can crack in 4 u, dm at Upioti#7460
Imagine if they simply added a gamerule that changed between pre 1.9 combat and 1.9 combat in the newer updates
True
They kind of did. You can use item attributes to change the damage items do and remove their cooldowns. Then you just agree not to use shields.
I also dont cry because lot of things changed, the new pvp is amazing and has lot of potencial.
@@Haphpint_ All I remember was that knockback changed a little bit. It wasn't a huge deal. This was also the time servers started to support multiple versions of the game. Not much changed with the update so there wasn't a big incentive for players to update.
That won't solve all the problems
I've never been much of a pvper, but I did a little bit of 1.8 and a little bit of 1.16, and I found 1.16 more accessible and engaging, finding I much more enjoyed working out when to hit instead of hitting as fast as I could. Felt a lot more like an actual fight to me, and people's excessive hatred for 1.9 combat bothers me
That’s because 1.9 is a lot easier to learn. Once you get good at 1.8, combos are much more satisfying
They are babies that can't handle changes. The fact that there whining is nerfing shield shows they ruin anything that they don't like.
@@nobodybroda3826 *their
@@goobles64 No one cares
@@nobodybroda3826 gottem
The combat update made playing survival much more fun and interesting, not just spam clicking mobs, but when playing on minigames like skywars or bedwar i prefer the 1.8 pvp more, though i mostly play survival because i don't have a mousepad and my aim is bad after 3 years of not having a computer, this laptop i have now is not permanent anyway so i might have to play on my iPad again after awhile, sigh...
same
i mostly play survival so i agree
I agree with you, 1.9 is great for survival while 1.8 is great for minigames
Survival was a lot better in Alpha though.
@@jR0xas wasn't it really plain compared to the survival we have now?
Not even youtube notifications can catch up to my pace
Hahahaha
The player who found his alt was Chickenator and his friend
Ah ok
Only us pvp legacy players know who these people are
@@ethreat1477 yeah it’s spencer but no one would know who it is if I said it
@@LordBurger me when people realize dream isnt the best 1.16 pvper :O
@@ethreat1477 honestly Techno lost 3-2 and he wasn’t even aware that jump critting did more damage than sprinting. I bet Dream would have lost the 1.16 section
I'll say this: the video was very informative and from what I can tell accurate up to the 1.9/1.16 bit. However I'm afraid to say you missed so many revolutionary PvP changes in the later versions, for example end crystal PvP, tipped arrows, netherite, totems of undying, etc. The truth is the 1.9 meta is not axe and shield, but rather potions, explosives and extreme healing such as gapples and totems. Overall, good video but the final section was not quite accurate enough.
yah i made a similar comment, I cant take anyone serious who thinks axes are the 1.9 weapon of choice, theyre meta in like one kit out of the the main 5
also axe always disable shield in 1.9
Me when end crystal
@@rodartsxdxddededo5950 but shields are easily countered by respawn anchors making axed useless and respawn anchors one shot you if you somehow loose ur momentum crystal PvP is all about utilising every bit of things
@@rodartsxdxddededo5950 but shields are easily countered by respawn anchors making axed useless and respawn anchors one shot you if you somehow loose ur momentum crystal PvP is all about utilising
Hey everyone! Hope you all stay safe and enjoy the holidays! Have a nice day! :D
I saw you in a lot of channels you are a bot
@@maguire1175 No im not :D I'm just trying to be positive
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I love the sword blocking, it was so fun
jamsey jam the pvp god
Pvp in 2011: wow ur really good can you teach me tips
Pvp in 2020: ez game kid go play roblox it’s where you your 8 year old self belongs
True
fax
I don't think the pvp community was ever like your 2011 example. When I was in the pvp community in like 2012 people were similarly saying ez and such. They weren't talking about Roblox though.
@@gyroninjamodder brooo it’s just a joke man
@XzyteCrewXXL well because roblox is free and lots of little kids play it
I personally play 1.8 most of the time, but I can still appreciate 1.9+. I don't hate it.
Same as me
I actually prefer 1.16, and maybe even 1.17 if they change some textures and change some items like the spyglass
1.9+ is superior in every aspect except for PvP. People are missing so much for refusing to play in newer versions
@@jaas0225 I agree that everyone should experience the newest version. However, 1.8.9 has a huge library of mods and servers that it has been able to build up over the years.
@@jaas0225 yep Totally Agree with you. When 1.9 got Release. Many Players were unhappy about the Combat Change and Most pvp servers is still at 1.8 update.
I really hope Mojang brings some Good pvp changes to combat snapshot in the future. Time will tell when it's gonna happen
Every single night before I’ve gone to bed I’ve started watching a video of yours to revisit the past of my childhood. Love your content, keep up the great work!
:)
but everything changed when the 1.9 update attacked
:)
Only Notch, creator of Minecraft, can stop it, but when the world needed him most, he vanished
@@anthonywong7906 100 years have past and 1.9 is nearing victory in the war
@@anthonywong7906 nah, he quit in 2014, so about 2 years before 1.9 but fucking hell, microsoft really wants do screw mc over
@@sab1163 dude dont ruin the moment. also, personnaly i think microsofts doing a really good job.
The minecraft 1.8 pvp community has not died. We have devolved in the form of games like bedwars and skywars.
Devolved*
@@GMFan now that i think of it…
theres still practice servers
Cant wait to see how this new pvp update that is in development is recieved. Also, neat video. I didnt know about most of this lol. :)
I'm not even done with the video yet either. And ive already learned something new
:)
@@TheMisterEpic :D
hello I like your videos!
@@baconboy486 themisterepic's videos are good. I like them too
Yoo its JamseyJam no way
Yea man, can't believe he agreed to do this vid with me
My man forgot to talk about the fishing rod strategy.
Because that isn't Vanilla. They never worked like they do on most servers without plugins. Go try it
@@verde7595 yea they do what are you on about lol
Thank you very much for including the snapshots in this video. They've gotten startlingly little attention, and they've made really good changes. Once again, a great video. Thanks!
I hope they reintroduced blocking without shields too. Perhaps you could dual wield (and dual block) with swords too!
That would be cool
In the combat snapshots, shields only block 5 melee damage before damage is dealt to a player
I feel like the 1.9+ sword & crystal pvp communities could've been worth noting in the video
Fun fact! The overcast network is actually back now, still around, and uses the same ip, and its just as fun.
pog we got a new upload :D
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COME ON GUYS LET’S GET HIM TO 100K
btw, the 15 clicks per second doesn't mean that you can hit people 15 times a second in 1.8 pvp due to s. You still can hit a person a maximum of two times, but higher clicks per second reduces your knockback and allows your hits to be more consistent. Great Video!
9:15 Oh my god I was in this fight with ItsRaditz... Good times, never thought I would see this here
Haha we're you his friend?
I was back then but he was a scummy person to be honest, nobody really liked him. He was older than most of us so everyone still stayed as friends even though he was pretty manipulative. I did some content with him on my old Minecraft channel back in 2014 I think.
@@TheMisterEpic Were you there around those times as well? I swear I can remember you.
I didn't make videos, but our faction and raditz had quite the rivalry. My username was xXcrazy101Xx
This is a nice vid and all, but are we gonna talk about how he placed a block next to a cactus at 10:31? And the cactus didnt break?
:o
It broke. Watch in 0.25 speed
@@TimDaOne o so it just took awhile.
@@isaakwinkle5305 yeah probably a little lag
nice documentary on this, I hope you eventually cover more iconic mods than you already have, like better dungeons/chocolate quest
Maybe in the future!
Lets goo 100k coming soon happy for you congrats
90k :0
91.1% there
Getting there!
y'know the overcast network still kinda exists... it' s original owner handed over the domain to applenick, and it is now back with the exact same game-modes and maps but on a much smaller scale called overcast community. The server isn't exactly the same but revitalised alot of the old maps and still has it's old owner (Electroid) as admin atm... Some maps have been slightly edited and ofc the server doesn't have dedicated servers for separate game modes but it's definitely a fun throwback for sure when you play on it... even kept the same server IP as the olde days
Verified!
Nice!
There was this time in 2017-2018 where I tried to convince people on hypixel 1.9+ isn't bad. People laughed at me, but I knew there was many people who also didn't hate or care about the attack cooldown in the new versions (Most big youtubers for example). I was kinda right. Resurgence of Minecraft made people forget about the controversy and Dream showed the world that 1.9 pvp isn't that bad.
dream isnt even good at 1.9 pvp tbh, people played 1.9 pvp before dream
oh come on Mr epic, you know I have homework to do
Hahaha
you talking about McPvP really brought back some old memories. I would really like to see a full breakdown video of McPvP i think it has an interesting history
Maybe in the future!
I remember playing on a similar server to overcast called stratus, now it has like 5 players but it was so much fun, My brother would get annoyed when we played bc we took his kd down so much.
Yea I tried to record on stratus, but it's lost a lot of players since the new oc.tc opened
the speed cap was a pretty neat thing in my opinion, cuz theres that 0.5 seconds of "red time" when you cant even be hurt, so if you hit all swings perfectly it would just time itself out.
I barely play minecraft anymore, but i always watch your vids. Can't believe you haven't reached 100k yet, keep it up fam!
It's so weird seeing the old combat of Minecraft, I just remember playing it on my iPad with my little brother and Friends and having this be the only way we could mess with each other
I actually don’t think Minecraft 1.9 was a bad update, I actually loved the new combat Update more then I should of did.
It made the combat more interresting and not just clicking really fast just to kill someone.
Just my opinion though.
same
Same here
simp are you?
no it wasn,t interesting
@@whiteeye3453 okay well sorry that you cant spam click anymore
Really informative video!
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As someone who plays survival and not any pvp servers I kinda see where they were going when making 1.9 when it comes to fighting the mobs in the game.
Amazing video as always! Could you do a video on the evolution of redstone? A lot of changes have happened since it's introduction
Potentially!
I'm surprised that most people still think that crystal pvp is a niche thing that only happens on anarchy servers when it really isn't
Omg the overcast network. I used to play it and I always tried to explain this server to my friends and my brother but no one knew about it!!
Hahaha yea
You can still play on it! The server is now called the Overcast Community and the ip is play.oc.tc
I’ve watched your channel grow and I’m proud of you bro 👍
:)
Hey no problem in the new combat update pvp will become better than ever
Stackable potions... IM IN!!
In the beta days armor damage absorption actually escaled with durability, meaning you would lose protection as the armor was damaged, so higher durability actually did provide better protection
1.9 PvP is the peak of combat. You don't get called a noob for not being able to have 30 clicks per second.
1.9 just kill the skill, and make the combat less fun and dynamic
Now, it highly depends on the stuff you have, since you can't combo anyone and do significative damages, and anyone can just hide behind a shield
Also, the saturation health regen is hyper stupid
Like, pvp in 1.8 and 1.7 do not resume at "clicking fast huuhhgg 🗿"
It's all about the combos
Wich include aiming, positioning, other stuff AND clicking less or more fast
Actually, clicking fast is the least important part of 1.7/1.8 PvP
But if you remove the fast clicking, you can't combo anymore
ppls loving 1.9 are just the losers that were taking the L on the pvp and minigames servers
That's why they minimize pvp in 1.7/1.8 skill ceilling saying it's just " Spam Click "
Despite the " Spam Click " being actually the litteraly least important mecanic in the 1.7/1.8 pvp
@@OuhHey my man wrote an entire college thesis for a comment i didnt even remember writing. Sheesh musta touched a nerve there I guess. Go back to playing bed wars
same.. it's sad not that I was so into pvp that I never beat the game. it's just that many more game-modes and mini-games that take less longer have been released and taking the time to beat the actual game has just stopped being popular.
What about crystal pvp/ cpvp?
thats pretty much bullshit
@@thomasjohnson4987 no it really isnt
Thanks for this video!
Haha np
there are still combos in 1.9 sword pvp, its not all shield pvp and theres no
t only ONE server u can practise 1.9 pvp on
There are still ways to combo on 1.9 pvp. If you reset your sprint after every hit you do a little more kb and you'll get more reach the next hit. That way you can combo. Axes are good for the first hit but i usually switch to the sword right after to get those combos. You should get onto a server called cubecraft on 1.9 there's a whole comunity there that is quite good at 1.9.
I’m a 1.7.10 pvper and won almost all of my games on 1.9+
Let’s get him to 100k!
Very good made video man. Very Informative.
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Neat video :)
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2013-2014 i only played factions. I loved how we raided bases and the multiple 5v5 or 1v3 fights
Ooooo, mcpvp, dam, havent heared that name in years, those wer the good days
:(. rip soup.
Your so close to 100k let’s go! Your growing so quick
Imagine 1.18 Being the parity update , think about it a little bit:
1-Combat Changes Fore Java and Bedrock (They said that before)
2-Redstone Parity For Java and Bedrock (AKA Quasi Connectivity)
3-Technical Parity for Java and Bedrock (AKA Better farming mechanics)
4-Quality Of Life Features from both versions
5-Cool Parity Features (like colored cauldrons from bedrock and custom shield banners from java)
6-Modding Capabilities for Bedrock (Probably Not)
7-Maybe Cross Compatibility with Java and Bedrock (Possible using plugins)
Maybe that will never happen but if it ever happened , it will bring our community really together Bedrock and Java players!!
This would be awesome. But a few of the things you listed wouldn't be possible, such as quasi connectivity, which is a bug with Java that isn't present in C++ (the language Bedrock is coded in). Same goes for modding. Java is a much more flexible coding language, which is why mods are plentiful, compares to addons (the Bedrock variant of mods), which are generally less intuitive and often replace in-game items for "custom" items.
Would be interesting!
U know there's a thing called geysermc that allows basically crossplateform between java and bedrock edition
@@skchilly9836 first of all as a Bedrock technical Player and an add-on creator, I knew about quasi connectivity and how it can break Alot of the game's code and mechanics and I knew that it was first introduced as a bug in java, secondly as to my knowledge C++ is much Flexible than Java (correct me if I am wrong), thirdly think about bedrock add-ons as java datapacks, java datapacks are more flexible in some places (aka editing vanilla features) which we can't do in bedrock , and bedrock add-ons are more flexible in some places (aka custom entities and custom scripts)and they are much easier to code , but anyways bedrock add-ons are much better than before because you can add infinite items , custom items , custom blocks (kinda very limited tho) just check MCPEDL and you would be impressed, the point is that bedrock add-ons are (a little bit better) than Java datapacks , and Mojang said before that they wanted to add a modding API to bedrock in addition to Add-ons , that's my point , I would love to hear yours :D
@@danielfurt I literally said that in number 7 LOL , I just forgot the plugin's name!
I like how you mentioned the overcast network! I loved playing their server’s game modes. Fun fact: a mod brought the server back at oc.tc
shouldve talked about kohi a bit imo it was bigger than badlion at one point and lunar, mmc nd stuff are mainly based on it not badlion nice vid tho
I loved Kohi so much
Man i love your vids keep up the great work
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I remember I tried out 1.9 PvP on the PvP legacy server, and it was really easy to pick up, but extremely boring. In duels without a shield I just hit them, backed up, and went back in when my cool down ended. When I tried out some duels with shields it was literally me and someone else holding our shields up until the other person put it down. I think 1.9+ is superior in everything except PvP and Mods, and the other way around for pre 1.9. But I prefer pre 1.9 cuz I like to PvP and I like the amount of mods 1.7.10 has.
This is a good summary
then you did’nt learn how to pvp in 1.9
not really
I'm actually excited for combat v2
1.9 is good for PvE but 1.8 is better for PvP
I disagree, 1.9 is better for pvp. As long as you use swords
@@TimDaOne still boring as shit
@@GMFan not agree but it is my opinion
Thank you for pointing out some of the most important cues of Minecraft PVP
I'm a former minecraft pvper. I started pvping back in 2014 and stopped around 2017
In that given time I was nearly pvp God so-to-say.
After joining back in 2024 I decided to try out my old pvp skills and found out that they don't really apply much to the newer versions of the minecraft and i really cannot say why.
Either the kids are too pro for me and im a literal boomer and cant click fast or they are using some supprot-toolkit that allows them to perform better in the game.
How do people still not know that pvp has changed.
everyone ( almost ) knows that
The music near the end is so dramatic and godly
Haha perfect
@@TheMisterEpic Ok he hearted me comment I feel good
I played a lot of pvp servers and I remember the intensive resource slog that combat was, I might get hate for this but when 1.9 combat update came out I actually started dominating the old PvP lord's partially due to their refusal to learn the new mechanics. So I actually have good feelings towards the combat update. :)
Could you make a video about dwarves vs zombies maybe? It's a very old, classic pvp gamemode that used to be popular but today barely anyone knows about it, only has a few small servers still running it
Axes are pure shit to pvp with, trust me, as a known person and one of the better 1.9+ pvpers according to the official tier list of the top pvpers, any decent sword pvper beats a good axe pvper in 1.9+
Edit: there are loads of 1.9 servers, but they just arent as known as others. Probably the best is vultex.gg
Awesome vid as always. 100k soon...
Haha
This actually sounds like that one dude explaining the history of the meta in pokemon battles
Who?
@@call_me_va Summoning Salt
Wow your going places, good luck :)
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Early squad!
Yay!
Bruh when the oc.tc part came i literally cried, so many memories.
Wow im so early that theres no good comments yet.
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man, your content is simply fucking amazing. It always takes me back down memory lane. So much respect for the work ethic brother, keep it up
Player Versus Player, more like 2 sweats making themselves look good in a yt video which you watch during the summer
But they aren't sweats in fact they are quite bad at pvp.
I don't see the sweats here
@@Arun_Baliga plot twist
So something I've learned is that while the axes are the weapons of choice at the basic no enchants level. Sword might actually be the meta when you hit full enchants and items in the really late game. Like it was was brought to my attention when I realized that on the Dream SMP Techno does not follow the "Use Axe Crits" method 95% of the time. And I think this is because with his pots and enchants he can out dps with his sword (and trident in the offhand but thats for mobility) while the opponent is stuck in place with their shield raised. I may be missing some details but the basic idea is that while theyre trying to defend you just keep running around them in a circle dealing damage since the sword cooldown is semi low. and if they want to get an axe hit in they have to lower that shield anyways.
Overall my point is in the late game the items and whatnot are so buffed that some of 1.8 themes kind of come back into play, but obviously not 100%. Keep up the good work!
A man who understands! :D
Swords > axes
Interesting
actually sword are allwats better than the axe ( if they are in the same leve, i mean material and enchantments) just that it is bigger the diference since better material and enchantements have in those weapons
You know it's going to be interesting when TheMisterEpic uploads a video.
I really wish you talked about the Soup PvP realm. Many soup pvp players loved it far more than potpvp so many stayed there when potpvp blew up - then obviously everything died when hypxiel and hub servers came
I still remember the good old Kohi days. Possibly the best pvp server to ever exist. It got almost everything right, the knockback, pot delay, hitreg and it was a stable server without major lag spikes. I still remember that it merged with badlion and from there the pvp community started going downhill.
I loved Kohi so much
Nice vid, you should do more stuff like this
Hopefully in the future!
For anyone wondering, the ability to auto click in new combat snapshots is due to the fact that this system will be used across both Java and Bedrock, and criting and regular attacking is more difficult on mobile, an issue eased by an auto click function.
I love your channel homie great vid
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