Fifth Gear: The Experiment With Old Banger Cars (Proton Sport)
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- čas přidán 24. 01. 2018
- Throwback Thursday clip from series 16, Tim is doing an experiment by swapping out his BMW M3 for a Proton Sport.
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How many Malaysians came here after seeing the Proton Saga thumbnail ? 😁
Me
Me lel
Singaporean
This was our family car when I was a kid! It was in slightly better condition than this one though. Our dad took us everywhere in it!
shivabreathes same 😂😂
I got into an accident with this car (I was driving a Honda City) and while my Honda got a bent and major scratches on the bumper, this Proton managed to escape only with ONE little scratch on its side. Wtf.
Same. For some reason this proton is build like a tank.
The name itself is saga.. It's supposed to be tanky LOLOLOL
Low impact accident, saga will be ok, but not for high speed impact. The car will bend all over. Old technology, cant compete with new one.
That's all about angles most of the time. My dad had a crash in a Golf Mk1, got a minor dent. The then-new (2005?) Renault Megane had his whole left side destroyed.
@@Seekthetruth606 Not entirely true. Most car parts today are made of plastic. You'll be surprised at how flimsy car parts are now compared to how they were made decades ago. I used to work for a car insurance company and I inspected car damages that needed fixing.
I am from Klang, Malaysia. I own a Proton Saga 1.3, year made is 1992. I bought it from a former colleague. Until today i am still driving it.
Lim KH I love to hear that
Jual ke boss
The same 4G13 1.3L engine was used in our 2003 Lancer. No surprise that its legacy lasted so long lmao.
Wow
You sir are a legend
I’m an ex-proton owner, it had the best air conditioning compared to other cars and Low cost maintenance, felt really proud of it.
true,if the window were tinted it will be cold like chrismast
I bought an absolutely immaculate 1.3 aeroback for £150 last year. It's seriously the BEST car I've had. I've owned audis, landrovers, mercs etc etc. I can not fault my proton AT ALL. insurance is 120 quid A YEAR! and it's just like it came out of the factory. 55k on the clock. I won't get rid of it until it dies or I die.
Simon Ingram my uncle owned a 1986 model Proton Saga. Replace the wear and tear parts and it still runs. No major modification at all. It just wont die haha
is yours EFI? the carbed version use unique CV carb, not everybody can tune it.
Simon Ingram in
No. Mines 1.3 TRIPLE valve. Carb version
fuel consumption?
in malaysia
we call that car
"kereta kebal" - tank
😅
tu untuk yg xde kereta tu jek. owner dia semua berbangga kot..
aminluqman hakim hahahaha..Aku baru nak komen macam ni tengok kat bawah dah ada yang komen hahaha
reta kebal iswara baru...bukan proton saga atau iswara lama...
Kereta kebal yang langgar dengan laju pecah setengah
True! Wkwkwkwk
to be fair...it is older than most youtubers...and it was one of Proton's first models(if not THE first)...yet it still runs smoothly and economically superior than most cars even today...so props to that!
Its an even onder Mitsubishi
u comparing 1985 proton with 2003 bmw. wtf. proton wins that.
Yeahhhh👍
NICERRRRRRRRRRRR👍👍👍
LMAO
Terbaik bro. Experiment kena ker dia nak compare 20 tahun perbezaan pengeluaran
Am I weird in finding the Proton to be more interesting than the BMW?
RPKVids it probably is, i mean how many of these are still alive.
I also find it more interesting. :) Non-CSL E46 M3... move along. :P
Anything is infinately more interesting than any of the predictable chav chariot's. BMW or Audi.
- there are a couple of ST owners nearby. They lavish them with care and don't hoon 'em around. Meantime, the local chav's gravitate to A3's and 1 and 3 series once they hit mid 20's and drive them like utter cunts. Could just be a Nottingham thing though.
Paul Smith no its a national thing!
Say what you will, but the Proton Saga was and still is a hero car in Malaysia. (Malaysia boleh! 🇲🇾) And yes, it’s silly to compare a Saga to a M3, and worse when you’re just trying to bash it rather than give an unbiased review. You might as well just compare a carton of grape juice to a bottle of exquisite red wine.
Beli kereta saga dah buruk nk compare dengan kereta bmw baru
@@wakli5978 Kan
True.
You need some butt cream
just the brand is from MY but the core technology is not.
My father buy it on 1990..and now i t still on the road..almost 29 years...still good...love my proton saga..
in malaysia whoever own this car is a legend
It seems to be built like a tank
it never die..
This car very old because this model in 1985
It reminds me of an perodua myvi 2005 just crashed out.
To be fair, that generation of Proton was really good. It was basically a Mitsubishi Lancer under the skin. Although the cars were assembled in Malaysia, most of the parts came from Japan. When these cars were launched in the UK in the late 80s, it was received well, won a number of awards at the British International Motorshow, and sold a lot more than was initially expected.
Sadly, that would be Proton's peak. Apart from the Satria GTI, the rest of their cars have been rubbish to say the least.
IMO proton peaked at wira/satria/putra era. went really steep downhill when campro was introduced.
Big Money Waste indeed
used Proton is way better than used luxuries.
fukthegoog there has been a new crazed in town right now. Everyone I know are hunting proton saga specifically those that have been drived by Genting highland taxi driver also known as saga genting people actually spent up to 20k ringgit just to take those car from the hand of those old taxis drivers.
wow 20k. could get a cefiro rb25 with that kind of money
Prices of this going up in Malaysia since the Saga one make race
Bobby Ang Hi Bobby, please make a similar video. Either with an old Saga or Kancil for a week. Gonna be entertaining af.
Agree with the idea!
I had one for sale
People have been looking for this car. Especially saga genting. The maintenance cost are magical
It would be fun if you could review an old rag kancil or saga something a little different XD
Babe, don’t treat him like a trash.
Yeah I was talking to the Proton Saga.
PROTON Saga The First is a tank..
Then, Perodua Myvi is a flying car..
Keta Kebal dan keta terbang
L bozo
Myvi is trash. Saga is the real Gigachad
I think driving cheap old cars makes you appreciate what you have, while driving a expensive modern car makes you think about every little flaw.
I also think it's more interesting to talk about those cars, since they kinda have more character and maybe a interesting story, while most things about a new car are told by a spec sheet.
Makes the beemer so much more special to drive on weekends and keeps you appreciating the old times.
Cosmic Surfer bimmer*, beemers are the bikes
Alex Strömberg not in my country. Both have the same name. Apologies for that er. I should remembered
We call them shitbox here
Cosmic Surfer not about country, same everywhere, bimmer is the car
That my country first model proton saga i love it and i proud
Proud? Of what?
Proton tu aku: murah dan mudah rosak
@@Vincent-ws5dg why not...
@@ruslannasir8662 bad quality
@@Vincent-ws5dg its what u said....where are u from man...
I drive economical cars until the wheels fall off. I keep up their maintenance. When the cars get older is when they are by far the most fun. If someone bumps you, no worries. If your doors get dinged, no worries. If major parts fail, your options include selling the car for scrap or replacing with junkyard parts. The creativity behind your solutions can be quite fun. After you collect your assortment of dings, dents, and bumps make sure to park snugly near the new Beemer that is quadruple parked in the far reaches of the parking lot. He'll appreciate your kind gesture. :)
I do that in my old Volvo, love to park right up to the line if the beamer/Audi/Merc has parked "wide". I'm surely doing them a favour by protecting their doors from people squeezing past.
You Definitely Don't want to Marry A Girl Which Her Shoes Costs More Than Your Wheels.
You Definitely Shouldn't Type Like This
Nor A Man Who Capitalizes Almost Every Word He Types.
Federal Communist
But he's got a point. If the girl's that expensive, you better get a better car instead (and it holds true for that new car aswell).
Yes you would... she has to be rich then, can pay for your next one. One could be a househusband... would be great!
Proud to see Proton Saga is still running on British road.
So basically,my sister and i were driving me to school (in a mini cooper)and accidently hit someones car(proton wira)
And yet my car got a dent
But theirs didnt
You can say our chiken rendang not crispy,but you cant say our proton is a crap
YeongHong Siaw bruh😂😂
lol
But why chiken rendang? 😂
Hahaha
wait till u watch top gear
Im from malaysia and very proud of the first proton car. 1985s Still on the road tho!
and now own by?
Azren Azhar ...proton najib punya...dia boleh jual bila2 masa je...
faizal ismail Proton is not own by government. Its own by Syed Bukhari. Government only supported them
Syaf Alan ...the fact is still under najib....not to everebody...he cant sell or dumped proton company forever..power on his hand .
@@sparepartbob6768 relex brother bukan nye senang kereta proton masok youtube luar negara.ni kira ok aku rasa dia nak buat test
Proton Saga. My first national car
Megat Ali Imran rebadge lancer*
opps.. kamu di sini komen rupanya....
Permisi
Moon Guy nak apa ?
Jong Chee Ming ?
You run it to that bmw.. see which one will breaks..
P/s : youll be surprise
Hahahahaa
Hope he will try and share the results :)
He doesn't even had that kinda ball
I am using this lovely car ... after my business went bankrupt ... i sold my SUV ... and bought a 1994 proton iswara (manual) ... that was in 2016 ... until now i am using it ... its been 4 years ... i moved on ... my business got better slowly and steadily ... now i can afford to buy SUV again ... but why should I? My proton iswara saga was my best friend in my rainy days ... so why should i abandon it in my good days ... i will stick to my proton iswara saga ... i don't care what people think about my car ... because i already have emotional relationships with my beloved proton iswara saga
Thanks for a great birthday upload xD. Please wish my £150 Perodua Kelisa well for its MOT inspection on the 4th of February! Big up Malaysian motoring massive!
RoobehTunes even as a Malaysian that car is a milo tin, will crush as easily as a tin can, the new much is amazing tho
one guy I worked with used to simply buy a $200 car every year and drive it into the ground. Kind of admirable.
There's really nothing wrong with cars like that. There really isn't.
Omg.. that is 30 yo car.. vs m3? Proton must be good.. tq for the review.. pls do it more
I owned a similar car in Malaysia, the Proton Saga 1.5I bought back in 1987. Best part? Dirt cheap maintenance and superb reliability. Right now, I'm restoring it back to stock specs myself. Brand new parts still sold by Proton at a discount. I've bought a brand new engine, gearbox, wiring, suspension, seats and interior plastics. Some parts no longer sold and were cannibalised from a donor car. Sure beats the crap out of my daily driver, a 2012 Peugeot 3008.
how's your car coming along? and how much is for the restoration? I have one too back at kampung with a lot of fond (and not so fond) memories in there
Aeizad Danial M.S. I've spent close to RM 10K including Puspakom inspection.
Aaron Cheah have then back
So funny :D over a year ago I bought a 2002 Fiat Punto after several years of having a brand new car every couple of years and I have really gotten used to it. It's so true about not having to worry all the time about dents and bumps, I constantly bang my door into the wall of our house and don't even bat an eyelid, I would have probably cried before :D I have come to love my car, decorated it with decals, given it a name and it's become quirkily adorable. Best of all we have saved a deposit and will hopefully buy our first home this year! For us it has paid off.
Is the little Punto still around? :)
2019 still watching my country car😂👍
Me😅
Malaysians are very patriotic, every video with a proton in it, they will be in the comments section, very wholesome
Agree
Those old episodes are gold...
That is 1985 proton saga n u comparing it to 2004 BMW......lol
Arvin de king maker yeahh he is stupid
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Thank you for this useful practical tests and fairly good results to, well done for doing this research test for us all, Great!
Gimme that with a manual stick and watch me drifting on every corner, and cruising on long roads. That car is the definition of fun and satisfaction when driving it. Proton Saga rocks. Much love ❤️
this is so true! i have been using a cheap banger proton for past year
so worry free as i can park anywhere, cheap to run, parts easily find, and is so simple i can fix most stuff myself
and i dont have to worry about its appearance (since its a banger)
i just take care of all the mechanical parts
sadly will part from her soon and moving on
Did you get a new car?
Probably that's why the Proton Saga (a.k.a Proton Sport) became a legend of reliability! It has been about 30 years already!
My 24-year old Proton Iswara 1.3 manual is still running great. Only changed the distributor cap and alternator recently. Just a turn of the key and the engine roars to life at 4 am in the morning even after leaving it cold for days.
first model in malaysia and my first family car.. whatta great memories
Easy to be all snooty about a cheap car when you have a plush job driving fancy cars and getting well paid doing it, but curiously not everyone has that, some of us really work for a living and must of the time not getting much money in the end of the month, and the only item that matters for us in buying a car is the price and that it get us from A to B protected from the rain, but of course that is something very far from your universe, something that only happens to real human beings not TV characters ...
Real things of life that didnt mentioned on any videos ever
I agree, I have a 24 year old car and am glad that it still goes. TV shows don't always reflect real people...
True! The woman in the car said "she has shoes more expensive than the car". Bloody hell, over £200 for a pair of shoes - I start crying at paying over £30 in Decathlon.
These TV presenters need to get in the real world. Not everyone's got a high paid job, most work for Minimum wage...try getting a brand new Beemer on that! They're nothing more than inverted snobs looking down on the lower echelons.
Yup. I actually sold my (fairly luxurious) Lexus and bought a cheap Toyota Paseo instead. I don't make a lot of money and I had saved up a loooong time to be able to buy the Lexus.
But guess what, I am just as happy driving the Paseo now... maybe even more happy because it's simple, it's cheap to run and I don't have to worry as much.
Bangers / Beaters ... I love 'em!
you guys are too lazy to even live in this world. there are so many ways to make money nowadays and yet you chose to be slave and making other people rich while you guys whining about your life.
This Proton Saga is a very classic vehicle and was invented in Malaysia. For information, the car nowdays were used by certain people for racing.. it's very fast, can reach 230km/h with proper modifications. Meanwhile, mostly this car been use by villagers and rarely seen in the town.
Hadn't laugh like this from a car video since good old Top Gear! Great video! 😀
Driving this car around in other countries really looks good
At least the proton is less embarrassing than the BMW. I did this with a £600 Jag. Lasted a year til the engine fell out. Proper Jag too (not an x type)
Proud to be a Malaysian!
My friend's dad had one and I've ridden in the back. It's based on an old Mitsubishi lancer and uses proven components. It was brown inside. Not refined but very reliable and not that slow for the price either.
"The nicer my car, the more friends I'll have?" Wow. I'll be happy to not be your friend.
It's pretty obvious that's just a mild British humour that you can't take
KaiserSchnitzel I’ll be happy to steal his BMW :D
im fine with any car aslong as the A/C work perfectly fine
trust me mate, i am from Malaysia, the old protons the A/C is bullet proof, cold as heck even on a hot afternoon in Malaysia (averaging from 32-35 C)
this one being UK spec wouldn't have air con
I saved money to buy '89 Yugo 45 and drove it like any other car for 6 months. I gave 300€ for it. It was tax and refistered, has good winter tires, sunroof and great radio. Sold it for 360. Guy who bought it still drives it.
I bought my Proton Saga 85 12v from 1989 till this day..more than 10 years and been hit like 4 times from rear with no scratches and bends. First car bought with own money and still drive strong even in challenging weather..
My first car was a Proton. Kinda miss it after watching your video. Never gave me a problem.
he he, still got tens of thousand units on the road here in Malaysia! This tin box car just run n run n run even after 30 years! Spare parts abundance n cheap too. What a work horse ;)
i still remember that day i saw a perfectly tuned proton saga at on of the car shows in selangor
my dad own a proton 1.3S manual year of made 1985, which was the 1st version of the proton car. It serve our family well for 28 years without any problem. Sold it by the year of 2013 and the car still running strong until now.
Fun fact, In 1994-95 Proton Saga(That car on video) are used in ARC(Asian Rally Championship) or MRC (Malaysian Rally Championship), Racing Team name is PERT (Petronas EON Racing Team).
Don't knock the old Proton - it's basically a Mitsubishi Lancer made in Malaysia. OK they were a pretty unremarkable device even then, but they were well built and reliable. These cars finished off Lada in the UK back in the early 1990s and showed that budget cars don't have to be laughable awful cars.
RapidAssistant yes many Protons were based on the superseded Mitsubishi Lancers but this model was based on the Galant/ Magna depending on the country. The problem was it was made by Proton and just put together. Shame really. The Mitsubishi models were 10,000x better.
@@stephanburgess654 yes mitsubishi are 10 000 is better then proton...but shame of course not...
@@stephanburgess654
yes and MG Rover were made 100% by BMW...
Hello mate ,we proud the 'tanker' at Malaysia ,proudly Proton 👍
i still driving my old Proton Knight Aeroback... well maintained with original color... give me no problems at all... i love it and i will never sell it... tonnes of sweet memories with my Proton Knight Aeroback 😁👍
My father had one. Not once did it break down. And i hammered it!
This car was bulletproof! Thank you malaysia.
It's called a Proton Saga. Very rare, and I like it. Could be wonderful with a full restoration.
64thScaleDiecast come to malaysia
this is an old video
unexceptionaldiecast in Malaysia this car is super common lol
Im malaysian guys. .and im proud to see others country happy to use my MALAYSIAN CARS😊
I'm from malaysia.. I proud of this video because this is a legend car and legend brand for us...
'I might just hang on to this, i really might' *door proceeds to open on its own😂😂
he bought it and i can say he will love it like i do.... i have one of this proton from 86' and still running strongers than branded new cars.. more tough and reliable... pimped my ride like any car do that look even cooler/opposite than this video.. old is precious babe... Proton Saga -Older model (Malaysian National First Car)
so sad no more fifth gear ;(
This car will make your bmw in garage forever come to my country
I still own a 20 years old saga ( iswara ) ... Works like a charm ( except for the driver side window).
Still I take it out to Genting and it's just cruise uphill smoothly.
Your test is so true. Got a Mercedes v6 ute, and Audi S8…but for most kind keep jumping into a 07 3.0 litre outback we’ve had for years and just dosent know when to quit. Park it anywhere and not worry about getting keyed, service is only a few dollars and parts (1 window motor) from a breakers yard. Nope it’s not flash…but gets driven 10 times more than the ‘flasher’ stuff here
As of 2016 540 Proton Saga's are left.
Include in Malaysia???
why always last video came to me......who also with me in 2019 like😂😂😂😂😂
Still got one at home. It was not used now but man, the car still looks Great
My best friend's mum had one of these Protons in the early-mid 1990s. Even by that point it was an ancient old heap with bits falling off.
I rather have a Proton than a BMW TBH.
michael gill me too, because I can't afford it..haha
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kankoku122 Hahaha六六六
Musnahkan ɐᴉsʎɐlɐW AMEN!!!
Warga flat earth ke ni ?
WhiteDragon 哈哈哈
2:48 a Car: Dodge that camera!!!
My 2001 Saxo was £330 and sailed through its MOT a year later. Much better 'bangers' available than the Proton. I never feel embarrassed driving my car. In fact, it's a joy.
This is all time favorite car in our land.. still running strong... Even the super rich people in Malaysia will recognize and proud of the "the great Saga"...
Now, compare it with 2019 proton saga
Hey,i still have that car in malaysia and it runs good .restore it and swap its engine with a 4g63 engine from an evo 3 . ...i can guarentee you ,you will hate ur m3 .i saw one in malaysia with 600hp
Aaaand you should see a 4G63 swapped proton, tailing a Civic type-R and an Evo up the mountain roads. They're amazing
Blehtubezz Aus i have driven m3 before ..
HNRichard it depends on the drivetrain bro...civic and evo are awd
the Type-R is actually fwd, only the Evo is awd. but it depends on the driver too lol. They went nuts on Genting highlands
HNRichard fwd ? No way....type rs are awd
Done a similar scenario with an 80 quid focus estate. It had its niggles and was a cheap stock gap car and could drive it without a care in the world. It also used to swing the passenger door open when driving until we fixed that issue 😂
This my family first car..my mon and dad buy this car at 1985..now this proton saga still with our family.. still in good condition after 33 years old..
You give me one British/ EU car that were made in the same year as that Proton and still running as good as that Proton.. i bet you can't! The complaints are only about the age factor and not class and reliability. Compare apple to apple.
songkok7hitam
Except the Proton isn't still running.
And come off it, there are loads of British and European cars still running, as in still running as of NOW.
My British car is still going and it's one year off as old as the Proton in the video and it's far from on its own.
My ex Landrover 90 (1987 model) is still on the road. My old 1993 Clio 16v is still on the road. My old 1997 Golf Vr6 is still on the road. And that's a comically small representation of surviving British and European cars from my personal past ownership.
Lol, my dads Morris Minor 1950 is still on the road
You're living in your own world, lots of conti cars still running on the road.
songkok7hitam totally agreed...
Renault 19
With number plates, bumper and windscreen wipers hanging off, there is no way that MoT is legit.....
Maybe it wasnt in that condition when it was presented for the mot
Advisories?
I love bangers. Park them anywhere, drive them much more relaxed and enjoy a tinker around on a Sunday morning.
well it was made in 1985 and it still works until now .. and i'm proud of it
The Sport and Le Mans badge is fake. Im Malaysian and this is my national car. It does not come with those badges.
Mike Swift Some proton cars name is different in some countries..and the le mans badge one is fake,but maybe the sport badge is real
Mike Swift how i wish the Malaysian versions had a sunroof. Even at that time, Proton gave more to Europeans and less to it's own people. 2018...and it's still the same story.
lets say Proton Waja in Malaysia...in UK it is named Proton Impian
And In Malaysia....Proton Wira
UK....Proton Persona
Bethuel Selvin Raj the upcoming x70 will have the sunroof
sometimes a dealer will add a badge and some stickers and call it special edition to move on old stock, id say the sport badge is fake, but the le mans badge may have been added by a dealer.
Malaysian watching the whole video:
👁️👄👁️
I had a £170 Nissan Micra 1.3 LX afew years ago, it was my 2nd car but I much prefered it to my 3rd car a £2200 2005 Subaru Legacy saloon.
That Micra was quick, economical, comfortable, extremely reliable, survived a crash into a ditch, never worried about vandalism. And any fixes it needed such as throttle body and heater resistor card only required a soldering iron and a blob of solder.
I bought a mrk 1 ford ka for 200 euros with 20.000 miles on the clock. I had it for 4 years and put on 40.000 miles without any repairs. I didnt even change the oil or filters. The i gave it to my sister as a runaround and she still uses it. I got a 96 audi a4 1.9tdi for 1200 with 60.000 on the clock and had it for 5 years now and the same story. Thus far i have spent 1400 euros in almost 10 years of driving. Long life the banger!
I have had almost the same story!
Golf Mk2 for about 100 euros, used for a few years no problems!
Then buyed Audi A4 1994 with 1.8 20V engine and AWD! For only 250euros about! No problems, lovely cars!
This car still kicking
Anyone else immediately put off by his "Look what I can afford" opening?
Tw*t.
Yup - He's basically Alan Partridge in a pair of trainers
Can't stand people who"try"too hard to be funny. And he's one of them
its a t.v show. the majority is most likely scripted
Well, I'm still riding it till today. Although it runs on carb, still wont disappoint me.
Just come to Malaysia to see the cars value here. It's an amazing car.
BMW means "Broken Motor Works"
Charlie Cat Bavaria Motor works and the company is as rich as petronas
aei hello, Bas Mini Wilayah
Bmw- banyak makan wang
or "Broke My Wallet"
Iv'e got a ten and a half year old to me 2000 Saturn with only 280,199 miles on it that has been all but bullet proof, can do!!
I've got a 250k mile 2002 Volvo S80 it's fun when I drive other people in it and they notice just how many miles its done, buy a quality car and look after it and most modern cars will do 300k no problem
This is my first car back in 90s!
I had a . Proton Aero back in the 80s and it went everywhere no problem at all