Ex Muslim and former atheist answering objections to Christianity | Shirk in Islam
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 14. 05. 2024
- ::::::: Topic Highlights:::::: Answering objections to Christian theology. Shirk in Islam.
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These two Christians have good knowledge, hope to see them more in SC
Praise Jesus!
What cracks me up is the total disconnect the Muslim has when he says there are many translations of the Bible as if thatâs a problem yet every Muslim who preaches the Quran in English, French, urdu etc is translating the quran into that language so as to communicate itâs message to non Arabic speakers thereby creating many translations of the Quran themselves.
Right!
I have no religion but the subject fascinates me! I definitely would never be a Muslim as it seems a backward religion and not very peaceful at all not to mention the things Mohammad did if I was to choose a religion it would be Christianity how could anyone not want to follow Jesus Christ! Iâve watched SOCO on and off for a few years now itâs a great channel and Iâve just recently seen this former atheist and he talks so well and I enjoy listening to him he speaks so well đđ»
Brother, we all have religion. We are designed to worship, worship something or someone. Whatever occupies our heart and prioritize as first, we worship, we follow. For most, it's $ or ourselves. Therefore, we are our own god. Glad.you are here watching this with me â€. đ€Čđ
I pray to Jesus you can have your eyes opened to follow the truth. All it took for me to find the faith was to find the subject fascinating at first. Love to you brother.
HalleluYah đđœ đđœ đđœ May that grace find and remain on both of you in YESHUA's HOLY Name Amen †â€â€
How can christianity be peaceful when the christian god himself said in Matthew 10:34, Do not think I have come to bring peace to earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
â @@dangdutirama1679If you're willing to examine the surrounding verses, that Matthew 10:34 will become clearer.
I just find the way they interrupt CONSTANTLY incredibly rude and irritating. They don't actually have any interest in learning or understanding, only arguing. "His hand will be against every man and every man's hand will be against him".
When talking to an abdul:
Me: How old was aisha?
Abdul: her age doesn't exist in the qurans
Me: Does aisha exist in the qurans?
Abdul: aisha is mentioned in sahih hadiths
Me: Is sahih bukari sahih?
Abdul: yes
Me: Sahih bukari says aisha was nine
Abdul: it's not sahih
Me: How old was aisha?
Abdul: 18
Me: Show us a sahih hadith
Abdul: Mary was 12
Me: Evidence?
Abdul: Catholic encyclopedia
Me: The Catholic encyclopedia says the source for Mary's age is not authentic
Abdul: Rebecca was 3
Me: Evidence?
Abdul: Sarah's death and Rebecca's birth happened at the same time
Me: Evidence?
Abdul: The rabbi said it
Me: Do abduls accept rabbis?
Abdul: no
Me: Do Christians accept rabbis?
Abdul: no
Me: Do all Jews agree with rabbis?
Abdul: But they had laws that permit marriage to children
Me: Are lawmakers moral examples for mankind?
Abdul: đș
Thing is mary would had be between the ages of 12 and 14 which means she has long finished the adolscence phase but whats more compelling is mary is a virgin meaning jesus cannot be created from mary or joseph so jesus was made from somewhere but thing is jesus wasn't his the word of god that dwell on earth
Here's how abduls do taqi-yya and shift the goalposts:
1. Abduls claim all qurans around the world are perfectly preserved and are exactly the same word for word, letter for letter.
2. When we show them different qurans with different words they cunningly shift the goalposts claiming that the qurans may have different words but the differences are only due to different accents or different dialects.
3. When we then point out that the differences are not due to different accents or different dialects but that there are different words with different meaning altogether, they shift the goalposts again alleging that it's the context that is preserved because the different qurans complement each other.
4. When we again point out that certain verses in different qurans contradict each other, they make another excuse claiming all the different qurans are actually different qira'ats and were authorized by muhummud and so are preserved.
5. When we then ask them for proof from their qurans or hadiths where muhummud or allah authorized 10, 15 or 50 qira'ats, abduls start fuming and get triggered crying that we are Islamophobes and are lying đ€Š
6. So notice how they shift their goalposts multiple times:
"Perfectly preserved word for word" to "different words but different accents or dialects" to "context is the same" to "all qira'ats authorized by muhummud"!
Ahhh. The well known standard Dawah twist and run.
The LORDâS approval continue to remain on the 2 Christian Brothers â€â€â€ Give us more of them JC@ SOCO...True soldiers with learned tongues!!!
YESHUA is Lord:
â John 17:5 âș
New International Version
And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
Love to see new Jesus warriors coming out. God bless
Muslims believe that momo spoke to Allah & they believed him, but in reality, Allah is momo's imaginary friend.đ
The christians believe Moses spoke to god. And according to the bible, your christian god was slapped by a roman official before the crucifixion. Do you believe your god was slapped in the face?
The christians believe Moses spoke to god. And according to the bible, your christian god was slapped by a roman official before the crucifixion. Do you believe your god was slapped in the face?
Momo is the biggest false prophet!
Thank you @SOCO Films
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keep going brother, you did really well
Good job at several things: 1. Showing Christians how to contend for the faith. 2. Sharing/preaching the gospel in our time. 3. Though risky, there is great potential to reach others.
Jesus came to cleanse us from the original sin and to grant us the Grace to outgrow our sinful nature, so we can be transformed into His image.
@SOCO Films Brother JC thanks for another video!â€âŠïžâŠïžâŠïž
Islam says "I can bear my sins alone, no need for a savior"
but once the sin is charged, Muslims say
"Oh Jesus please forgive me, save me"
Itâs interesting because why would Jesus say âBaptise in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit if they wasnât important? Why not just say âBaptise in the name of the father?â The next point that comes to mind after this is Genesis 1:26: âLet us make mankind in OUR image, in OUR likenessâ. Why is it OUR image if the idea of Father, Son and Holy Spirit is not important? Additionally, the first name of God in the bible (Genesis 1:1) is ELOHIM which is plural. Again, why is this word used to describe God if the idea of a trinity is false?
They didnât âcome upâ with the trinity and the Council of Nicea - The trinity was in fact upheld at the council, not created. I believe there is a book âSt John of Damascusâ that I havenât read personally, but Iâm told it quotes many church fathers before the council that believed in the trinity. Additionally, a quick search would also show you that in fact, no one who attended the council even questioned Jesusâ divinity either, making the claim âJesus became God at the Council of Niceaâ false. The whole point was whether Jesus was a created (Arianism) or an eternal being.
For sin, I think itâs about understanding what it means and the price of sin as death/sacrafice. As I understand it, before Jesus, sacrifices were made by the Israelites to pay their sin/debt as it were. When Jesus came, to fulfil the laws, sacrifices were no longer needed as Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice.
GOD bless the former atheist for the courage to enhance the knowledge about GOD, BTW, there's no trinity in the original Greek and Jewish bible as research by our former late leading minister in our MCGI church when he went to London National Library, the word trinity was an invention of thee Catholic church it was established on the premises that all the three Holies have the same power but it is wrong because the Lord JESUS stated thru the bible that HIS FATHER is greater than HIM
God doesn't need anyone or anything to defend His Word , all God ask is to keep Covenant with Him by obeying and honoring His Word and God will take care of the uncircumcised Philistines.
This is the difference between somebody that is truly Born Again and filled with God's Spirit and walks according to God's Word versus somebody with just a bunch of head knowledge of God's word.
AMEN Brother đ
You can feel the cogs in their head searching for excuses to how every point can't be true. They don't want to admit it to themselves because they've lived for so long believing something different.
To the Christian - "Anything the Son Wills, the Father Wills also (this is Scripture)...
But, when Jesus was on earrh - "Not my Will but your Will be done (Jesus speech while He was in the flesh
The father's Will is same Will as the Son and the Holy Spirit.
If he thinks death is the end how do u get judged.
I am also an proud exmuslim love jesus â„ïžâïžâ„ïž
The Christian with glasses is aggressive.
No dialect in Greek đ Greek is perfect in context if even translated to swaheli.
Greek context can't be changed in meaning when translated its impossible.
20:44 ... This is where the brother failed ... As soon as you get off the Word , your done .. there is no external sources outside of the word if there is then it has to line up with the word the word of God has to back up the external sources ... Jesus Christ lives ... Mark 16:17,18 proves it , And testifies of Jesus Christ Resurrection . Hebrews 13:8 ... Never fails .
They love to put limits on God.
soco tienes cara fella, cambiatela a de mas loco..
So simple. ONE GOD revealed himself in 3 distinct way or person.
Was Jesus created? Only his flesh but not his divine essence.
So was Jesus God if he had a created body? Yes. The WORD of God (logos) was sent in to humanity to walk with us.
Example. The Qur'an (speech of Allah) is eternal and uncreated BUT his word entered creation in a book.
Aaaah now I understand they are small minded people there only propf is quran đđđ how sad
I am Christian and I seriously question the deification of Jesus. I tend to agree more with the Muslims on this because nowhere in the Bible does it say that Jesus is god.
The main point of Christianity is that we believe he is God. Have you ever read the Bible because he claims to be God many times, if youâve read the Bible then you know he does claim to be God. Maybe youâre just trolling cause itâs the internet but youâve just lied because he does claim to be God. Read brother
@@williamstarling2224 Iâm not trolling. Why would god pray to himself? Why would he say the most important commandment is to not put any thing before âHIMâ? He is the son of God, not God.
Sounds like youâve never read the Bible at all, yes he is the Son of God and he is God, he took on a human nature to die for our sins and then resurrected himself but he was still divine. When he prayed he prayed to the father because he was in human form, if you read the Bible like Christianâs do you will see he is God. I and the father are I, I am the alpha and the omega the first and the last. No one gets to the father except through me. When Phillip asks Jesus to show him the father and that will be enough to believe Jesus says, have I not been with you this whole time. We believe in one God that is a tribune God and has different aspects. All you have to do is read
@@williamstarling2224 please show me your evidence from the Bible. Name verses and chapters. Iâm willing to change my mind. You have only offered arguments without evidence but yet the burden of proof is on you. The messiah is a messenger of God, the âsonâ of God. Nowhere in the Bible I have read has said that he IS God. Please tell me where you have read this if you have indeed read the Bible and claim to know more than me.
John 8:58, Matthew 11:27, John 14:1-7, John 5:18, John 14:9, Mark 2:5, John 2:19, Mark 14:62, Matthew 10:32-33, thereâs at least 10 more that I can give you but thatâs the short list. You said youâre a Christian but donât believe Jesus is God, sounds like Islam
1:24 Jesus Christ.. I follow the camera and now I'm facing down watching the video lmao
Hehe pure denial, they are so blinded by lies that even if they saw it, they wouldn't believe it, and they can't think for themselves, it's a pity
Their English quran has many different translations and versions so do bible English translations. But the message of bible is the same. But they have many different Arabic quran and they believe every word is pagan moon God Allah word.