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France to UK via EUROTUNNEL with the Shuttle
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Bonjour à tous,
Welcome to this new trip report! Finally! We're reviewing the Shuttle service of Eurotunnel... It's a video I have wanted to make for a long, long, long time; I hope you'll enjoy it as much as I did
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RECORDED OCTOBER 2022
Railroad company: Eurotunnel
Train type: Class 9 engines and Shuttle carriages
From: Calais Terminal to Folkestone
Time: 35 min (Time between Terminal)
Price: 130€/$ - 114 GBP
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00:00 : Intro
02:26 : Arrival at Calais-Terminal
03:16 : Check-in
04:16 : Calais-Terminal
04:54 : Borders controls
06:44 : Final lane
07:25 : Early boarding
08:27 : The Shuttle train
09:00 : Loading onto the train
10:16 : Ready to go!
11:04 : Mid-roll ads
11:28 : Departure from France
11:40 : More on the Shuttle
12:51 : LGV Nord
13:29 : Freight Shuttle
13:51 : In the Eurotunnel
14:08 : Walkthrough
15:26 : Toilets Time
16:11 : Lower level
16:59 : Approaching the UK
17:26 : Welcome to the UK
17:43 : HS1
17:54 : In the loop
18:35 : Arrival in Folkestone
18:42 : Thoughts on the Shuttle
20:25 : Unloading
21:02 : Welcome to Kent
21:22 : Outro
I have the same experience with Customs staff in Canada - despite being a Canadian. When I arrive in the UK or Europe they're friendly and welcoming. When I get home, they treat me like an axe-murderer.
It's been a while since I visited Canada, but my observation is that CBSA conducted a nationwide search for the least friendly people in Canada, then they made them border guards.
As an American going over the ambassador bridge, I have the same thing, Canada is great, US BP will treat you like a POW
I think all customs are like that, I travel to Argentina as an Argentine, and border patrol looks at me like a criminal for going on vacation or work to another country. Come back to the US and not even a hello.
That is strange. In the late 1990s, I flew from Düsseldorf (Germany) via Newark (near New York City) to Toronto. German security was business-like and efficient, US Immigration was in a small cubicle and grumpy, whilst the Canadian immigration officer sat behind a large, open desk and was very friendly. Same story on the way back.
I have had similar experiences visiting Canada. The Canadian border people always seem friendly, but the U.S. people are always very rude and abrupt. It's the same whether going by car or by plane.
Channel Tunnel facts: One of the boring machines is buried under the sea. It was too big to back out, so it turned left and got concreted in! Eleven boring machines were used for the tunnel. In total they weighed 12,000 tonnes...even more than the weight of the Eiffel Tower! The earth that was dug out to create the tunnel could fill Wembley Stadium SEVEN times
Having said that, if you take an imaginary box in which the Eiffel Tower would fit, the air inside that box weighs almost as much as the tower itself (source: Wikipedia). The Eiffel Tower is remarkably lightweight for what it is, apart from a stunning piece of architecture and engineering.
That buried boring machine actually still has a use, as the electrical earth for the overhead power lines in the tunnel.
Wikipedia reads THREE of the British TBMs eventually drilled a deadend where they were enclosed with concrete.
12 000 tons is a mere portion of the weight, they weighed close to 120 000 tonnes
I would have gotten so lost getting to the train. Very interesting service.
13:59 the Channel Tunnel is actually currently the third longest railway tunnel in the world after the Gotthard Base Tunnel (57.104 km/35.5 miles) and Japan's Seikan Tunnel (53.85 km/33.5 miles). But once the Mont d'Ambin Base tunnel on the Turin-Lyon HSR is completed with a length of 57.5 km/35.7 miles, it will be dropped to fourth longest.
You know the Eurotunnel shuttle is special when it has its own locomotives and unique coaches...what you get if a Superliner and a car had a baby! All jokes aside, the Channel Tunnel is truly a grand piece of engineering that made the UK even closer to mainland Europe.
Actually, if you consider the Brenner Base Tunnel (still in construction) and the Innsbruck bypass as an unique tunnel, it will be the longest railway tunnel in the world (64 km).
Btw, the length of Brenner Base Tunnel (from Fortezza to Innsbruck) will be 55 km.
And now, my dear country has annexed itself from Europe, I agree with Simply Railways, that its a GIGANTIC underuse of the infrastructure, and the Eurotunnel looks to be a white elephant.
@@iconicshrubberymaybe the Brexiteers will plug the tunnel up
Very interesting, I've never seen "Le Shuttle" as a video. I wasn't expecting that it will be interesting, but it was!
Thank you :)
0:57 I was almost expecting a toilet report on the VW ! 😊
I always look forward to your videos. Thanks for sharing.
This is pretty awesome! thnks for the video!
Thanks to publish this amazing trip in the day off my birthday
another great video. keep up the great work
Great Video! I have been on the Eurotunnel many times. The reason for the prison look is security, many people tried to sneak in back of lorries or even walk through the tunnel. The Mario kart part is so they can fit more vehicles in a queue. Also the top speed of the Eurotunnel locomotives may be 160km/h but their operating speed is 140km/h. These trains go down and up a slop in the tunnel and weigh over 2000 tones. Price can depend on the time of the year and time of the day however its a faster and more reliable way to get to the UK rather than taking the Ferry.
The great job amazing work good calculation very brilliant and hard work hands up thank you
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🎉 Congrats on 200k subscribers!
Amazing report !
Awesome!!! Thanks for taking us on that journey!
Very interesting and informative video! That was the first time I've seen the overall check-in and boarding process. Also enjoyed the trip to Provence!
I have bounced accross The Channel - and under it - hundreds of times over the past 50 years, and have always found the Eurotunnel staff very friendly and helpful. Although we may all class ourselves as good drivers, watching a coach driver get his coach onto the train, or the HGV drivers, proves to me how good they are. Although in Europe you seem to class a bus and a coach as the same thing - not so in the UK. Generally a bus takes you where you have to go, and a coach where you want to go. Good as this is - I still miss the Hovercraft crossings!
French language also makes the distinction between bus (for city transportation only) and coach ("car" or "autocar", for both scheduled service outside of cities and travel). However now we have low-entry coaches that look like buses and are often used as buses, but can be legally considered as coaches with seatbelts and "theoretically" no standing people.
loved the video. thank you
Very nice video. Thanks!
Congrats on 200.000 subscribers
Another great vid!
Great trip report
Great Job
Excellent
Very lovely video to watch
interesting video as always, and such a easy to take your car with over to europe or from europe to uk
Oh, wonderful Tour France to UK.Thanks for sharing, greetings from Greece!!!❤EUROTUNNEL❤❤
Interesting video, Thanks.
This is impressive to watch as I never travelled to the UK by using the Eurotunnel shuttle yet! When I was a kid, I've crossed the channel with one of the last Hovercrafts from the Belgian coast (yes, Hoverspeed has been operating in Belgium as well, from Oostende, if I remember correctly) to Ramsgate, England in 1994. Once you arrived in Ramsgate, it took about two hours to cross the whole county of Kent and to get to London by a quite slow regional train back then. Last time I was in the UK as an adult, I went there by aircraft, it was just a short flight of about 90 minutes to get me from Germany to Birmingham. It was very simple to continue my journey to Aberystwyth on the Welsh West coast from Birmingham International Airport, there's a direct link by train which was operated by Arriva trains Wales about ten years ago, but I think the operator of this railway line all across the West Midlands, Shropshire and Wales has changed a few years ago.
It's so annoying that you need this extra passport now, thanks to the B-word. I've not been to the UK yet since it's not part of the EU anymore. The tax you have to pay on imports is awful as well if you'd like to order something from the UK by mail, as if the trouble with Royal Mail wasn't enough. But I won't blame the British voters, the shadiness and ridiculous hypocrisy of persons such as Von der Leyen and the bureaucracy within the EU is definitely co-responsible for the result of 2016. Anyway, I don't think this will solve the problems within the UK, quite the contrary.
That's if the Brexiteers don't plug up the tunnel. The EU isn't perfect, but it's damn better than a fractured squabbling continent with limited co operation
Wow that is so cool
I love taking my car on the tunnel, I do it a few times a year!
Thank you. I've often wondered how LeShuttle works. Your video covers all the small details.
11:28 I like the little cable-stayed bridges for the catenary.
Its amazing 👍👍👍
I noticed that you left your Starbucks coffee cup atop Paula. Nice video.
Great Video
The English Channel is so legendary
I wouldn't say the tunnel is under used, in fact I'd say that it is even a capacity on peak days! Yes, it isn't as heavily used public wise, but freight wise it's massive! There can be 6-7 trains an hour for the HGV trains, then add on top of that up to 4 public trains and at least 1 Eurostar, with all the safety measures in place, it's very busy! There are also a few cargo trains that use it (around 5 a day), which could be more if used overnight. And again a massive missed opportunity for night trains, or cheaper, non-high speed stopping services i can see there being a demand for! However the reason for the lack of the last 2 is politics, with brexit not helping the matter.
Tuckers can queue for days on the UK side to get through customs and get a on a train. Also it's not unheard of large queues for hours during school holidays to get onto trains, you just got it on a very quiet day! Overall though another great video! Really enjoyed it!
That was excellent !!! :):):)
Thanks Harry!
I travelled on the Shuttle in 2015, arriving with a regular bus from Kraków to London. Actually, the French border guards were quite nice, saying bonjour to every passenger and scanning our luggage, while the UK guards were looking at and treating us like potential criminals with our IDs being checked under a magnifying glass. One of the passengers had to come up with a different document, because their ID had a little scratch on its photo :x
that's because the UK have a far bigger issue with illegals entering the country through the EuroTunnel than France does
Due to illegal migrants maybe
Of course the "Service due" light is flashing. Have never seen a car from france without it. 😂
I love the eurotunnel good 👍
Great trip, finally you try it. This trip remembered me when I playing Truck Simulation Game, I always use this facility for crossing between Mainland and UK or vice versa, more than taking a available Ferry route in same route. And yes, I'm taking the freight one, bit challenging for making perfect entry to the car. Something different is, in that game, there is no formalities when crossing between Mainland Europe and UK, no matter you taking Ferry or Le Shuttle service.
Oh I didn't know the trucking game had the Shuttle service!
@@SimplyRailway Well, that's being generous. You literally just drive up to the terminal and press Enter and pay for the ride to be transported to the other side. There are however mods which let you drive the entire length of the tunnel in your truck.
The feedback device being the only thing not working in the bathroom is near peak comedy 😆
Un tren muy curioso. Muy buen vídeo.
For those like Thibault who are curious - the reason there aren't more services through the channel tunnel (night trains, long distance trains, etc) is due to politics. The UK won't allow passport checks on the train, and won't allow the checks to be done on the UK side of the border either, meaning all passengers have to be cleared before the train departs. The same policy applies to the ferries as well, and is the reason for the "prison" atmosphere at Coquelles.
This means that you have to build and staff some very expensive border controls at every departure station (which will cost you more money than you make back on 1 night train, or anything less than a full day's worth of high speed passengers).
There is an alternative, which is asking all passengers to get off the train with all their possessions and performing a full train load of passport control at Lille (when coming from Europe) or Ashford (if coming from not-London, currently closed).
Combine expensive passport control arrangements with per-passenger fees that the channel tunnel owners are charging (€26 per person in 2019 I believe), and extremely demanding on-train safety requirements (Eurostar rolling stock is pretty bespoke), and it's a recipe for bad business, which means only state-owned operators are ever going to touch it.
Here's some entirely theoretical services made up by me, you will of course think of your own:
- Renfe Barcelona to London, one train per day, using the "Lille Shuffle" method
- DB Köln to London, up to six trains per day, with border controls at Köln
- SNCF Sleeper Edinburgh to Paris, one train per night, using the "Ashford shuffle" method in the early hours of the morning
Few issues:
I like the idea of a London to Barcelona via Lille like how Eurostar does services to Lyon and Marseille. The problem is, as mentioned in past is the bad relations between SNCF and Renfe which is already fairly toxic and causing issues with the service between Paris to Barcelona. I am sure the idea of a flightless journey to the Catalan capital would be popular, but unlikely.
The only snag with Köln one, is that Köln Hbf is at full capacity even though it one of the biggest station in Germany. I would suggest perhaps one of the nearby smaller one like Messe-Deutz which you could take a small journey to the main station.
I like the Auld Alliance Sleeper service as a new service between Edinburgh and Paris, however there isn't a big enough advantage compared to just taking a Caledonian Sleeper and Eurostar combined.
Nice thoughts and ideas.
There was plans for Edinburgh to Paris sleeper
@@philipbranco9568 I wouldn't put any money on any of the crackpot ideas I listed ever happening. I think SNCF/Renfe relations can totally be repaired in the future, the political will is there - but the service I'm proposing would lose money like crazy.
I don't know enough about the traffic around Köln to comment on that, but if it is as you say then that's a pretty huge problem - a smaller station won't support the border control staff. There are lots of reasons Eurostar go to Amsterdam and not Köln, and I guess that's one of them! Maybe the improvements to services heading east from Amsterdam will change the shape of travel from London to Germany.
@@s125ish As far as I know any plans are private sector plans (the former Midnight Rail I think?), and there's no way to make a sleeper between those cities profitable. For the time being, we shall have to wait for ticket integration between the future HS2 operator and Eurostar to provide a fast daytime service between Edinburgh and Paris.
@@asdaneedsfunds The idiots in charge have dropped the link between HS1 and HS2. So through ticketing is probably out of the question.
It's 13 years since we travelled on Le Shuttle - we've been here in Spain ever since. Definitely the best way to travel.
Very cool video. It's been some years since taking the Shuttle - like you say, too expensive! (Ferries are cool though!) But yes, definitely underused infrastructure (also looking at you LGV Barcelona - France!) What would also be good would be a cheaper local, stopping "Eurostar", or at least a passenger shuttle from Calais to Ashford..
I believe a stopping Eurostar was actually considered at one point, but rather like most other suggestions for Channel Tunnel services they never came to be. At least they didn't build the stock for it like Nightstar and Regional Eurostar.
@@doomotron6160 they could maybe pull an ICE2 and convert the old E300 sets to two half sets with a control car.
@ Not going to happen. The ICE 2s are simply not allowed to go through the Channel Tunnel. They are not long enough, do not have the fire protection required, and are not designed for the hot and damp in the tunnel. Similarly, Class 373 half sets would not happen as it would foul the length regulations (trains must be at least 400 metres long so the train is always directly next to at least two exits from the rail tunnels) and would require rebuilding the sets, which will not happen to units so old.
Thanks for the video. I had no idea that you needed to load your vehicle onto a train to cross the tunnel. FYI, trains in Canada are generally 4 km long. Now thats a looong train :)
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Rumors abound that HS2 was to eventually have trains from Scotland going into the Chunnel to various destinations in the Continent. Honestly having Eurostar monopolize the HS1 into the Chunnel (and charge a premium for it) is terrible. My colleague at work took her daughter to London for her university graduation trip, and they wanted to go to Paris for a day. It was cheaper to take a Black Cab to Gatwick, fly on a cheap airline, take another cab into the city, and then reverse all of that back to London in the evening than to get two tickets on the Eurostar in July!
The idea of running to Scotland was dropped a long time ago. The trains they built to run the service were sold to Canada.
@@grahamsmith9541 I think that was the carriages for the sleeper service (also cancelled), they actually designed some Class 373 Eurostar trains to go to Edinburgh in GNER livery, but this plan was cancelled.
I also doubt Canada would have any use for 300 km/h trains!
As for the comment that Eurotunnel is expensive: For a car with only one passenger in it, it is certainly true. However, for the same rate you can take up to 9 people in it, so it makes more sense if you have a group of friends or a family who are traveling in a single car. If you're just by yourself in a car it is cheaper (and slower) to take one of the ferries.
19:01 I remember EuroStar ticket prices depend a lot on how far in advance you by them; my classmate paid over £200 for tickets bought 2 days in advance while I paid ~£50 for those bought over a month in advance
There are some very special safety features for trains using the tunnel. First there must be a locomative at both ends in order to ensure escape in either direction. The on board manager is trained to drive the "spare" engine. None of the continental railways except Germany have trains that comply with the rules. DB has run a few test trains. The reason the UK Government did not give Covid help is that the Tunnell and Trains are owned by FRANCE, The "Eurostar" trains are 85% owned by SNCF. The gauge is basically the Basle standard that's how the Eurostar
can travel all over Europe but European trains would only able to travel to St.Pancras as the UK gauge is smaller.
I'm genuinely surprised that OBB haven't tried to start a NightJet service connecting Europe and the UK.
Can't be that hard, surely.
It probably will be, we're talking about the idiot uk, remember people voted brexit on the premises of an advert on a bus, plus the railways here are fragmented and we have a government that hates the railway and the staff
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With the different standards and gauges in the UK, the overly tight safety restrictions in the tunnel, and the passport control situation...very difficult. If Deutsche Bahn can't do it, ÖBB would struggle for sure.
This was different, but I liked it. With all that driving around on the French side to get on the train, I thought you had driven to England ....LOL
EXCELLENT video. Thorough, and informative. Thanks SO MUCH!! Can’t believe how empty it looked.
I never thought it was a double decker train, I thought they had their own coaches to carry buses (my car was on the top deck near the front of the train)
Seeing that you compared the shuttle trains to Amtrak Superliners I'm guessing they're slightly larger both in height and width. I also assume these cars were assembled at the Channel Tunnel end points as they look to "out of gauge" for both the SNCF and Network Rail.
I am Frome India nice 👍👍 uk or Europe , nice video lovely
Nice trip report and congratulations on 200k!
I would really like to take this train trip some day. Wink Wink.
Would love to see night jets going trough the tunnel all the way to London.
Great job as always Thibaut. A few remarks though:
- Before Covid you could actually use the Shuttle with your bike, there was a special service for this. It looks like it's running again now
- Are you sure the tunnel is not fully used ? I thought it had already reached capacity. Maybe got my data wrong
- There actually was a scheduled sleeper service that was meant to enter service in the 90s, but for some reason it never did. Rolling stock that was built for that is now instead used in Canada for ViaRail (Ocean service I think)
I'm not sure about the capacity thing, but as for Nightstar (and Regional Eurostar too) there was not enough opportunity to make money when taking into account the investment required to make it work. Border facilities would need to be introduced at loads of stations across the UK and Europe and loads of trains needed to be built for it, but even those weren't suitable.
Yeah, right about the night sleeper rolling stock. It now runs between Halifax and Montreal a couple of times a week. The accommodation is quite good with en suite bathrooms but it is showing it’s age a bit now. Lovely journey though, especially with the autumn colours.
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Fabulous video once again and congratulations on reaching 20,000 subscribers. I have been on the Eurotunnel when I was young and me and my parents took me to Disneyland Paris.😊
The best video ever, I been trying to find a clear explanatory video and this is the right one. I have solved so many doubts I was having. Thank you 💕✨👏
There's only a limited amount you can report on Le Shuttle, as seat comfort, legroom etc would be the seat comfort of your own car. At least they do provide a lavatory, even if it does seem to be a walk of about half a mile to find it
There is a similar underwater tunnel in Japan that connects the two islands in Japan, burt is unfortunately only experienced with the Shinkansen (Japanese bullet train)
when you was looking out the windows did you see any fish swimming by lol you want to try the trucking side to koad and then wait outside the wagon for the free bus to the rubbish coach at the front
That's pretty cool you can take your car with you to the UK or France! Couldn't really hear any noise until you went to the lower level. Nice! Interesting small bathroom.
Wow... Thats a sort of different train journey and I must say.. the mario kart was good. 😂😂
Thanks for your detailed review of self-driving from France to the UK via the Euro-Tunnel.
CHANNEL TUNNEL IS WELL USED !
Trains from "All over Europe" are NOT allowed to use the tunnel for a hundred technical reasons. The first being that ONLY electric trains can pass through the tunnel. (Diesel trains would poison the atmosphere & kill everyone, which is another reason they could NOT build a car tunnel. No ventilation being possible, or everyone would drown !) Next an Electric train would have to be suitable to run on the 25,000v 50Hz overhead system, with the correct type of pantograph (electrical overhead power collector). Which is the system fitted through the tunnel, & onwards to Paris.
Most critical is the signalling, which is very different from normal railways. Instead of lineside signals displaying pretty colours every mile or so. The Channel tunnel signalling (TVM460), is a computerised "in cab" signalling. So the driver has a constant indication of maximum speed, as well as information as to the state of the line ahead, constantly displayed on his cab desk. This is also the type of signalling used by Super High Speed trains, as classic track side signals are not allowed over 140mph. Over this speed, the train is travelling too fast for a driver to be reliably expected to safely see and read a trackside signal. So normal trains from anywhere in Europe do not have this expensive high tech onboard signalling system, and therefore can't use the Channel tunnel.
Having said that the tunnel is well used. In addition to the Eurotunnel freight & car shuttles, there are the "Eurostar" services, and also a lot of International freight, especially at night. Freight trains have to use special engines through the tunnel, which have the special computerised onboard signalling equipment. The tunnel was at about 77% capacity before Brexit. Now I think it has dropped to around 65%. Summer is always busier than winter, due to tourist traffic. Incidentally all "Dangerous Goods" (including Coal) is barred from using the Channel Tunnel for obvious safety reasons.
Note: Due to the general 100mph speed limit through the tunnel, this requires gaps of at least 3-4 minutes minimum between trains. Which effectively means maximum capacity is around 15-16 trains each way per hour.
great video as always. it's indeed a unique way of travel and also looks hassle-free. I can understand your frustration about how under-used these type of infrastructure.
13:43 I didn’t know HGV can also transport a van :D
if your a brit do you have to get out of the car to get a ticket from the toll booth ? or just stretch through the passenger side?
Paula’s a good lass ❤
there is in fact a way to travel by bike using the Shuttle- and it's only £35 each way. But only once a day, and you get picked up by a vehicle in Folkestone/Coquelles
It is actually possible to ride this service without a car: take one of the handful of buses that use it between the UK & Mainland Europe!
Nice murals in the toilets! BTW, since the opening of the Tunnel, are there still automobile ferries across the Channel (LA Manche?) ? If so how much do they charge?
btw, is it difficult to drive on the left side of the seat, while having the steering wheel on the left?
Bom dia simply eurotunnel gostei bom
The reason the terminal looks like a prison is to discourage stowaways in freight vehicles, Calais Port is the same but now the preferred method for people to cross illegally is by dingy due to security at the terminal and port.
Thank you for this. There is NO chance I would ever ride this train. Not because of not visiting France - but there is no way I would ever be driving a vehicle there. 😁
Why not
@@s125ish Many people seem to be scared of driving on the other side.
Been on this one by car, by bus and truck. And used the Eurostar.
Just thinking... If the tunnel saw more frequent traffic, would the increase in vibrations shorten the tunnel's lifespan and need more frequent maintenance? I don't think the whole thing is made of titanium...
US here. Thank you for this very informative video. Did the utilization or ideas on utilization change with Brexit?
This Toilets Time makes up for the lack of one a while back, all is forgiven Thibault!
How do passengers get onboard with the looks of you travelling from border control to the shuttle is there another way for passengers to board
I've never seen a demonstration of the Shuttle before; thanks for the look. It does seem frightfully expensive; maybe if they cut the price they'd get higher occupancy. I saw the Folkestone terminal under construction in 1990 but have never had a chance to use the tunnel.
Fascinating - a flawless excursion between countries - thank you, Thibault!
Is it allowed to have bicycles strapped to your car when entering the train?
The price proposition of the Shuttle is a bit weird for any situation other than driving up to Calais and away from Folkestone (or cycling, granted). When you book in time, getting a single from Rotterdam to London isn't that much more expensive; and for the minimal time gain, I'd pick the cheaper ferry when I wanted to do just the crossing.
How long does it take to cross the channel?
There are also some coaches
5:11 Mario Kart 🤣🤣