Making Tongue And Groove Maple Boards With A Grizzly Shaper
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- čas přidán 5. 11. 2021
- One step closer to finishing the maple tongue and groove ceiling boards for the workshop. The Grizzly G1035 shaper finally got put to use and i was super impressed with its performance! I cant wait to get these boards up!
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Nice work with a fairly simple setup. Thanks for sharing. I'll be milling a couple thousand SF of white oak soon.
Thank you! Everyone tells me it would have been alot simplier with a power feeder. I have never personally got to use one myself. Is the white oak quarter sawn? Do you have a shaper?
@@HermanWoodworks I'm shopping around for a shaper now, I need it in ready to install in about 6 months. Most of the wood is rift sawn with some quarter mixed in. I have about 1000 bf of quarter sawn red oak (rough) I'd like to sell if you know a good forum for that. Thanks
@@marct2124 you won't have any issues selling lumber. If you have Facebook, try marketplace with an ad and some pictures. You have to deal with some bots, deal chasers, and tire kickers but ultimately you'll get it sold fast. Also if you have Facebook, check out if you have any woodworker groups in your area and make a post about what your trying to sell if the group allows sales. At least in groups they are more familiar with acceptable price points.
I'd like to have that same machine...I'll be finding me one...thanks for the video..
Comparing a router table with the shaper: the router bit is a smaller diameter than the shaper bit so that even though it spins at a higher RPM the surface speed of the tip of the bit is lower. The shaper has a larger diameter cutter so for the same surface speed it would run at a lower RPM. I have a 1-1/2 hp shaper from Grizzly similar to yours. I like it better than a router table for what you are doing but it is more trouble to set up. A three hp. shaper with a larger table might allow you to have spring fingers to hold the work against the fence. I really like the shaper. I wish I had larger one. However, the larger shaper cutters are very expensive.
I wish I had a power feed for the shaper! A larger table would make life and set up alot easier! For sure! Thanks for watching!
WOW !!!! do you need a powerfeeder.
What are your thoughts of doing all “grooves”, and then using a strip/board as the “tongue” (glued and slotted into the “grove”)?
Awesome bro keep the videos coming
Thanks and will do!
@@HermanWoodworks I am going to do the same project, make a ceiling for a closed in porch. Your video helped me! Thanks!
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@markkielman4777 check out my other video from when I hung the ceiling! Thanks again for watching!
did you surface plane?
did you joint the boards prior to putting them through the shaper? If not your floor must have horrible gaps in them
I did a couple videos on jointing all the boards and planing them before they got put across the shaper. I end up using them on a overhang ceiling and no gaps!
Where do I get shaper bits for a reasonable price? I've looked a little, and the prices are insane!
They are very expensive! Certain sets can be hundreds of dollars....I have looked on Grizzly's website which seemed reasonable. Read the reviews though because I'm not familiar with which ones get you the best life span and quality of cut.
Raised panels are a whole different game on a shaper, routers aren't even in the same ball park.
Will that shaper put tongue and groove on 2 inch stock?
It has a 3/4 inch spindle. So if you can find a cutter that will do 2 inch stock. It may bog down a little if your trying to feed fast with stock that big. I'll look and see if they make a cutter that big.
@@HermanWoodworks thank you, I really appreciate that.
Does Grizzly make a single pass machine? Running everything through twice is too time consuming.
They probably do but im sure the cost is quite a substantial bit more. I know I have watched Nathan from Out Of The Woods run a Woodmizer edger that surfaces 4 sides but im not sure if you can set it for shaping cutters. I dont know enough about those applications.
What kind of tooling is used for this? TIA
They are 3/4 inch tongue and groove cutters. There is a tongue cutter and then a groove cutter.
Do you have a link to the shaper cutters you used? Thanks.
www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-shaper-cutter-3-4-v-paneling-cutter-set-3-4-bore/c2122
I believe this is it...but I'll try and check on the machine tomorrow if I get a chance. Thanks for watching!
Can you tell me the ID of your shaper heads? I want to make the same ceiling boards out of Elm.
I'll take a look tomorrow and see if I have the boxes or specifications. I know the machine is a 3/4" spindle. They are tongue and groove cutters. But I'll see what other info I can dig up.
@@HermanWoodworks OK, appreciate you looking.
when he showed the boards from the side on a pile did you see all the tear out? That is because he didnt use a power feeder and there wasnt uniform proper feeding rate
Hi, how thick are the boards you used for these planks?
They were 3/4 inch thick. They were suppose to be 5/8 but I left them a little thicker.
Awesome! Thanks so much for the quick reply. Great video!
@markkielman4777 no problem! Thanks for watching! Are you making some boards? Ceiling or flooring?
@@HermanWoodworks thanks again! This is awesome! It’s for the ceiling. Any other information or suggestions you have through your experience would be great. Curious what shaper blades you used. I don’t have any, am in the process of getting a planer. To be honest your video gave me the energy to get moving on this.
@markkielman4777 I'll check on the shaper cutter I used. I picked up the shaper and cutters used from Facebook marketplace. It paid for itself immediately on this job! Let me know how your project goes!
How much is a grizzly cutter for Tongue and groove
I actually got my set of cutters when I bought the machine used. I believe they are in the 100 dollar range.
@@HermanWoodworks what about the the machine it's cost
@@emmanuelswaleyi-me8cl I bought the machine used but I believe new they retail for just shy of 1000.
Just wait for a power feeder and you'll be set.
Yeah thats what I hear! Sure would have been nice running all those boards....lol. The feeder will cost me more than I paid for the shaper...haha.
@@HermanWoodworks yeah but remember your only as good as your next purchase. I have a Delta heavy duty shaper I got for 50 bucks. I've only used it one time five years ago but it's there one day when I need it.
@@roofermarc1 I hear yah! When you can find a cherry deal, you know one day you'll eventually need it! Right now especially, it's hard to even find anything available.
Add a powerfeed and you start to get much better results and your hands will thank you. You can be grabbing a board while it's feeding one. Maybe 300-400 bucks for one sized to that shaper.
Yeah I have been keeping my eyes open for one on fb marketplace. Every time one pops up for a good price it sells immediately...any recommendations on horsepower size and such?
@@HermanWoodworks for your sized shaper, a 1/8 to 1/4 HP will do just fine. The bigger ones would tip your machine over and just overkill for you. Smaller ones have feed rates that will match your machine better.
@@moldings_etc thank you! Good to know, sometimes bigger isn't always better...lol. Ill definitely keep that in mind! Thanks again!
Its funny because he thinks he did a great job and keeps saying how beautiful it is but his eye cannot see the many flaws and how it could have been done 100% better. Always surface plane and joint prior to doing anything else when using stock like he is using for ceilings, floor and walls and lets just hope he has checked the material for moisture and allowed the material to acclimate to the environment. His final result might look good to the unprofessional eye but if you were to compare his to pro there would be a remarkable difference. I wonder how he finished the wood? That is a whole other conversation
Can you send a link of your videos making T&G.
Thanks
Why criticise? Why not appreciate his efforts and then just explain your thought process on the technique and share your knowledge? If you have the knowledge then why not share it in a kind manner to help? It's nice to be nice. This guy has done nothing bad to you, so why be negative? He seems like a real good guy. Heal the world my friend.
Of all the brands of shaper you could buy, you chose the worst on the market. Grizzly is the Harbor Freight rejects. The shop I work in has just about every POS that Grizzly makes, and they all blow chunks. By Laguna, or SCM,..... You know, something that actually works
super DIY Do not do what this guy is doing. First all boards need to be surfaced through planer to identical thickness, then ALL boards need to go through a jointer. Then i would strongly suggest using a power feeder to achieve uniform cuts. If the above steps were done first then the difference between his ceiling and yours would be the difference between Pro and DIY