The EVOLUTION of Super Saiyan Goku

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  • čas přidán 3. 10. 2023
  • In this video, we look at Goku in Dragon Ball Z.
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    Music - HalusaTwin, Retro Ranter and Majin Blue
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  • @shadowalker3536
    @shadowalker3536 Před 8 měsíci +34

    Weirdly enough, the lack of eyebrows on SS3 makes Goku look so much more intimidating and badass. I love it! It's honestly genius on Toriyama's part.

  • @cavalrystyles8776
    @cavalrystyles8776 Před 8 měsíci +23

    The fight between 100% frieza vs ssj goku is way more interesting to me when I consider the fact that if goku was at full Energy, he would've beat frieza the same way Trunks did.

    • @z-man1237
      @z-man1237 Před 8 měsíci +7

      Very true. Imagine if he still had a senzu bean left and eat one during his fight against 100 frieza. The Zenkai boost would’ve made the fight against him a lot shorter!

    • @newhybrid101
      @newhybrid101 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Not accurate.
      Frieza was also weakened.
      As for Trunks its stated that Frieza wasnt at full power against Trunks.

    • @newhybrid101
      @newhybrid101 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@z-man1237Zenkai boosts only work when you are near death.
      Super showed "adaptation boosts" which is different as it happens mid fight and mainly happened due to UI Sign increasingly making Goku stronger as he used it.
      Zenkais dont happen mid battle
      Once again its clear Dragon Ball fans dont watch the show

    • @cavalrystyles8776
      @cavalrystyles8776 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@newhybrid101 freiza at 100% was designed to be no match for a SSJ, even if they are new to the transformation... it was exactly why he killed all the other saiyans

  • @StarkOberon4
    @StarkOberon4 Před 8 měsíci +21

    Ssj3 is my favorite. It deserved more.

  • @SparklingJam
    @SparklingJam Před 8 měsíci +25

    Super saiyan 2 was the first transformation I ever saw and it’s so underrated it’s my favorite form

    • @mikael557
      @mikael557 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Agreed the electricity effect is epic

    • @MitchWarren
      @MitchWarren Před 2 měsíci +1

      Wackest form imo. Not enough of a difference to be it’s own form

    • @Nathan24634
      @Nathan24634 Před 18 dny

      ​@@MitchWarrensuper Saiyan grade 4 sitting in the corner

    • @MitchWarren
      @MitchWarren Před 18 dny

      @@Nathan24634 ss4 my favorite

    • @Nathan24634
      @Nathan24634 Před 18 dny +1

      @@MitchWarren agreed I was just saying that ssj grade 4, not super Saiyan 4 has the least difference in appearance

  • @devilshooter126m8
    @devilshooter126m8 Před 8 měsíci +116

    SSJ4 is PEAK!!!!!

    • @SuperDeleto
      @SuperDeleto Před 8 měsíci +11

      Yessir! SSJ4 on top! 🔥

    • @jasonmohornjr.8379
      @jasonmohornjr.8379 Před 8 měsíci +11

      so fucking true i feel like ssj4 has the most interesting lore behind not only the transformation itself but also the form, and even seeing goku power it up to a even higher level almost like it had it’s own grades. such a dope ass form i wish we could see more of it in the future but i doubt it one can only hope!

    • @BulkierEmu050
      @BulkierEmu050 Před 8 měsíci

      And ssj5

    • @hamishmcculloch8735
      @hamishmcculloch8735 Před 8 měsíci +1

      No

    • @rickyriggs5616
      @rickyriggs5616 Před 8 měsíci

      My favorite as well

  • @OnePunchYume
    @OnePunchYume Před 8 měsíci +3

    The fact that ssj3 is constantly draining you makes it look impressive because of how difficult it is to keep the form on.

  • @musishoon7950
    @musishoon7950 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I’ve always considered SSJ2 to be SSJ Perfected and thought that SSJ3 was just a temp boost

  • @quotivation47
    @quotivation47 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I love his LOVE for Tien.

  • @omegahtv6779
    @omegahtv6779 Před měsícem

    Absolutely great video! 👍🏿

  • @dastardlyderek5026
    @dastardlyderek5026 Před 8 měsíci

    So much fire content right now!

  • @PaulSmith-nb6md
    @PaulSmith-nb6md Před 8 měsíci +25

    I will only disagree that SSJ3 stands as a better representation of Goku's character over SSJ4. Goku gaining that form was him mastering his Saiyan self as himself. The love and care he had for his family and the earth all came in the form of SSJ4. That being said I do see what you mean in a sense so I won't say you are wrong in your thinking at all.

    • @actuallyreallybored3552
      @actuallyreallybored3552 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Nah, SSJ4’s only requirements were “Have Super Saiyan” and “Master the Oozaru”, it is literally just the incarnation of Saiyan Talent. Even TUI is more Goku(Actually if TUI wasn’t Lore ‘Breaking’ it would be great).
      It be one thing if Baby couldn’t use SSJ4 because he never earned his version of SSJ3(He absorbed a bunch of Negative Energy from his minions btw) while Goku unlocked Super Saiyan 3 through immense effort and training. But nope, Baby just wasn’t Saiyan enough.
      SSJ3 is representative of Goku. If he wasn’t willing to let go Life and let the next generation do their work, thus passing on to the Otherworld, he could not use SSJ3. If he wasn’t a Saiyan with great positive karma, a Saiyan from Earth, he could not get SSJ3. If he wasn’t willing to put in the effort and hard work, to the point of point he could somewhat match Vegeta with a Majin Boost, instead of riding on with Raw Talent, he could not earn SSJ3.
      Lastly, this goes for DBS Goku too. Goku took Master Roshi’s Philosophy to Heart. He worked hard, but he also rested well unlike Vegeta. This would increase his S-Cell Count, allowing him to achieve better transformations faster. Even while Vegeta and Goku were roughly the same strength, Kakarot really was one step ahead.
      If Goku didn’t have the personality and work ethic of Goku, he wouldn’t have achieved SSJ3. It’s still my opinion that SSJ3>SSJ4 despite looking less cool so you do you.

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@23Raindwell it's said you need ssj 3 in order to unlock ssj 4 since he unlock it already he can go ssj 3

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md Před 8 měsíci

      @@actuallyreallybored3552 Except this is almost entirely false. Not only did Vegeta never acquire SSJ3 and still managed to tame the golden oozaru power to gain SSj4 and it had no link to SSJ3 at all. The requirement for SSJ4 was not simply mastering oozaru and having super Saiyan. Otherwise Goku wouldn't have struggled at all. It was clear that he had to be reminded of who he was and the love he had for his family in order to tame the Golden Oozaru form being the embodiment of their primal rage. The tail is also required for a normal transition into it as well.
      You have no evidence to support that Goku couldn't attain SSJ3 without letting go of life. In fact there is no evidence to support this as he died before even knowing that was a possibility to begin with. Goku has never once relied in raw talent and so that has nothing to do with him attaining that form either. Especially given that Gotenks didn't do any of Goku's training and still had access to the form. It is clearly something mental that has nothing to do with death or the afterlife.
      You can think what you want but I stand by what I said and nothing you said refutes anything I said before.

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md Před 8 měsíci

      @@23Raind Yes but Vegeta was hit with Brute Waves to cause an artificial transformation because he didn't have a tail and was thus cut off from said transformation. And if you want to get technical and use your thought process, Gotenks also had SSJ3 so how does that make it Goku exclusive and special when someone else had it and didn't get it through artificial means?

    • @actuallyreallybored3552
      @actuallyreallybored3552 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@PaulSmith-nb6md Did you read at all? Like legimately, you countered nothing.
      I literally said if he was reliant on Talent he couldn’t use SSJ3, *Read.*
      The whole point was SSJ4 didn’t have any relation to SSJ3. Also Baby’s has Tufflelized Super Saiyan(SSJ1) to Strongest Form 1(Tuffle SSJ2 Equivalent) to Strongest Form 2(Tuffle SSJ3 Equivalent). Baby should’ve been able to use SSJ4 but couldn’t because his Tuffle Cells interfered, Vegeta could use SSJ4 practically right off the bat because he had already mastered Oozaru during his youth.
      SSJ4 is just the ultimate representation of Saiyan Talent, there is no “from Earth” in there. Saiyans don’t even need to learn SSJ2 to attain SSJ4. Golden Oozaru is just SSJ Oozaru.
      Living Goku literally couldn’t properly use SSJ3 and second time and just damaged himself badly during the fight with Kid Buu despite already knowing SSJ3 and having the requisite Ki, because SSJ3 was just that incompatible with living bodies. Gotenks is a fusion and gets to skip the due toll somewhat because Fusions are stupid strong, but a Never Died!Goku would’ve just taken himself out if he tried to go further beyond while not even knowing how to use SSJ3.

  • @kamenrangerzeo8251
    @kamenrangerzeo8251 Před 8 měsíci +22

    Before Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego...
    Before Super Saiyan Blue....
    Before Super Saiyan God...
    There was..
    SUPER SAIYAN 4 the true power of Super Saiyan might.
    In the fan made dragon ball manga DBAF Goku explains the purpose of Super saiyan tranformations.
    Rage was for Super Saiyan & SSJ2
    Pleasure for Super Saiyan 3...
    And Sorrow for Super Saiyan 4. In the concept for Ultra Instinct, if goku can drawn out the same power to control his emotions and release them gradually he should be able to increase his fighting Power far greater than ever before.

  • @takeruneverborn4740
    @takeruneverborn4740 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Thank You scholar for finally getting thru these guys heads that Z and Z Kai are two different Branches OG Z follows into GT cause GT is the Future of the OG Z Anime,While Z Kai goes into Super as Modern Adaptational leading into End Of Z proper I suppose also Hashtag SSJ4 peak fiction

    • @SparklingJam
      @SparklingJam Před 8 měsíci

      If that’s the case I hope the kaify og dragon ball

    • @mikael557
      @mikael557 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thank you Scholar, for finally getting through to these guy's heads, that Z, and Z-Kai are two different branches.
      OG-Z follows into GT, because GT is the future of the OG-Z anime, while Z-Kai goes into Super as a modern adaptation, leading to the end of Z proper I suppose. Also, hashtag SSJ4PeakFiction. *

    • @songoku9348
      @songoku9348 Před 8 měsíci

      That’s exactly what I’ve said in the past.

  • @marquistraylor1255
    @marquistraylor1255 Před 4 měsíci

    I’d love for the authors to explore the saiyan-ozaru dynamic thru ultra ego
    Fantastic video thanks for the great content

  • @terryjenkins5981
    @terryjenkins5981 Před 9 dny

    this is cool

  • @user-vz8st7fc2d
    @user-vz8st7fc2d Před 5 měsíci +1

    Ssj4 full power it makes their hair turn red, this explains Gogeta SSJ4's hair.

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool Před 8 měsíci +2

    My favorite forms are ss4. Perfected super Saiyan and og. They are the best versions of Goku.
    Least favorite buff Saiyan and ss3. Both go against how to fight making Goku and trunks look greener than they are

  • @gylization
    @gylization Před 8 měsíci

    I loved when Dragon Ball Heros released the ss4 vs ssb cutscene.

  • @deezytherunt4639
    @deezytherunt4639 Před 8 měsíci +3

    From a quick glance all I seen was "DRAGON BALL EVOLUTION" an a tear almost dropped lmao, we don't speak on that movie

  • @SlightSpeaks
    @SlightSpeaks Před 5 měsíci +1

    30:00 Honestly I prefer to think of Super Saiyan 2 as Grade 5

  • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
    @alsimmonshellspawn6021 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Nothing beats masaki sato artwork in namek when goku when ssj for the first time

  • @1970sSabresFan
    @1970sSabresFan Před 8 měsíci +5

    I love SSJ4 it’s my favorite form, I love it so much.

  • @markramirezgatmaitancoachg6845

    Nice original form original story

  • @ericperez5769
    @ericperez5769 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I prefer 1,2, and 3 just because it’s easier to understand but I do understand the entire grade aspect of it and I wouldn’t mind that either.

  • @newhybrid101
    @newhybrid101 Před 8 měsíci +9

    I like that you put a height chart in the thumpnail.
    SSJ4 is actually the only form that increases his size,making it the only legit ssj transformation.
    It makes Goku atleast 6'3
    Normal Gogeta is supposed to be 6'0,as a SSJ4 he must be like 6'8

    • @Rejii16
      @Rejii16 Před 3 měsíci

      Bro they are like 5’7-8 max 😂

  • @theoneandonly-lu5cf
    @theoneandonly-lu5cf Před 23 dny

    In the trunks Goku interaction trunks says he's using the same sword that killed Frieza. I interpret this to mean same power. And Goku blocks it unscathed. Consider how much power it takes to oneshot an opponent and I think yardrat training Goku is way lowballed by everyone.

  • @patescortez88
    @patescortez88 Před 8 měsíci

    Man when Goku went. Super sayain on the cold brothers it was like wow. You know you fkd up 😂

  • @xenoxtrollik4150
    @xenoxtrollik4150 Před 4 měsíci

    What i like to think about db transformations
    Based on how they get all beaten up in base form and then transformin and being like a fresh heal
    The transformation
    Doesnt multiply your current power
    But
    Multiplies your base full power your body can hold
    Or just base full power
    Which would mean
    Base 3000k
    Then
    Beaten 750k
    Transform ssj x50
    It is 50x3000k+750k
    So
    Ssj 150750k
    (Or a bit more sensitive 3000kx49+750k so 147750k)
    Which would could explain characters acting fresh after a transformation even after getting their ass beaten
    Also a mechanic pretty close to how fusion works
    (Best of A+ best of B)xC
    Or st least mentality
    Of the mechanic being theoretical

  • @markramirezgatmaitancoachg6845

    Nice super saiyan 4 GT

  • @edwardconner3335
    @edwardconner3335 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Don't forget my man, that ki being freely given and synergizing with someone else is exponentially more powerful as is exemplified by the spirit bomb & and in the games like Xenoverse where Demigra is beaten by a notably weaker time patroller and people like yamcha can heal you to full health when you can literally 1-2 shot in a fight. Also Frieza healing Goku against Jiren he couldn't physically have the strength to do much and keep fighting if not for exponentially ki bonuses from synergy. True though s is effectively just head cannon but can give me a better answer that isn't lazy writing.

  • @crestofhonor2349
    @crestofhonor2349 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Golden hair to monke mode. My favorite forms are SSJ1 and SSJG. SSJ3 and SSJ4 would be in second place.

    • @SpartanChief2277
      @SpartanChief2277 Před 8 měsíci +4

      yeah, ssg was nice form, red"fiery" hair and the body was more slim by a bit. Very different at the time.

  • @jamelleartis9172
    @jamelleartis9172 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Goku Gotten His First Of Many SSJ Forms
    By, Pain Of Krillin 's Death
    A, Second Time
    He Was Overpowering Frieza
    And, Nearly Killing The Galactic Tyrant
    SSJ3 Was Goku's Third Form
    With, No Eyebrows
    And, Intimidating
    His Hair Was Usually Golden
    It's Long Like, Raditz's Hair
    I Remember That Scene
    Of, Goku In Dragon Ball GT Anime Saving Everyone From, Natron Shenron
    The Mole Shadow Dragon Of, 7 Star Dragon Ball
    Saiyan Scholar

  • @Beasy63
    @Beasy63 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Been dropping videos like the rent is due

  • @albertolloret7688
    @albertolloret7688 Před 8 měsíci +1

    saiyans are the master race of db universe

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci

      Considering sdb are creation of namekian, namekian are literal goat
      They can endlessly spread their race as well as being able to do such unique fusion

  • @powerlevelvlog1089
    @powerlevelvlog1089 Před 8 měsíci +3

    With SSJ4 you grow in height by 3 inches+

    • @newhybrid101
      @newhybrid101 Před 8 měsíci

      A lot more than that,Goku is normally 5'9(5'11 in Dbsuper) but as a SSJ4 he looks 6'3 at a minimum,maybe even 6'5

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci

      3 inches in what?ayo!

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci

      3 inches in what?ayo!

  • @Arbron
    @Arbron Před 8 měsíci

    What I like about SSJ3 is that before Ultimate Gohan it was hinted that nothing could match Majin Buu besides fusion. SSJ2s had so far failed against him. Outside context tactics were required. Goku on the other hand was the only who could single-handedly rival Buu through brute power.

    • @Punk_is_idol
      @Punk_is_idol Před 3 měsíci

      SS3 couldn’t handle super buu why you think he wasn’t afraid to fight fat buu and kid buu

    • @Nathan24634
      @Nathan24634 Před 18 dny

      ​@@Punk_is_idol I don't think he was afraid to fight super Buu he was afraid to fight buhan but not super Buu he just wasn't alive and couldn't go back to earth

  • @user-lc4ux4ix1d
    @user-lc4ux4ix1d Před 8 měsíci +1

    ssj4 ultra instinct ssj2 ssg and ssb are my favorite forms

    • @Nathan24634
      @Nathan24634 Před 18 dny

      While I will respect your opinion I want to figure out if when you say ultra instinct if you mean omen/sign or mastered and I personally don't like blue as it's just a soulless form to gain money and out of all the super Saiyan forms has the worst showing and track record making it look and feel weak and lackluster in comparison ssjg doesn't suffer the same issue because it allowed Goku to fight on a similar lvl to the god of destruction who earlier one tapped his previous strongest form and then beat the rest of the z fighters

  • @SporkyMcFly
    @SporkyMcFly Před 7 měsíci

    I read the manga and in my native language (Swedish) the forms had one classification.
    First was Super Saiyajin. Then came Ultra Saiyajin.
    Last came Threefold Super Saiyajin.
    There was never any talk of grades apart from the buff form of Super Saiyajin being what a weaker person could accomplish toward Ultra Saiyajin. It was a power amp with a speed cut just like what you always talk about.
    That is the only way I ever see them. I honestly do not know the grades and tried to find anything comprehensive to latch onto but the grades seem meaningless. Grade 1 is Super Saiyajin, but the three next grades are either Grade 1 or Ultra Saiyajin with a speed cut because it is done improperly. It is best compared to the screwed up fusions between Trunks and Goten. The fusions were strictly worse, but I see no better comparison.

  • @khalilnery
    @khalilnery Před 8 měsíci

    Super Saiyan Forms of Khalil

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    @Brown-Marquez_editz Před 8 měsíci +2

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  • @jacobgardner3101
    @jacobgardner3101 Před 8 měsíci

    So according to the anime SSJ3 goku is more powerful than ultimate gohan once he begins fighting kid buu? I like this.

  • @danielsmith225
    @danielsmith225 Před 8 měsíci

    He pushes a building by the glass lol

  • @MordiganE6
    @MordiganE6 Před 19 dny

    If I was being picky, I didn't like the hair pattern of Gokus SS2 anyways. His ss1 and ss3 looks better.

  • @markramirezgatmaitancoachg6845

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  • @lrblueslowbro5302
    @lrblueslowbro5302 Před 8 měsíci

    I think they fcked up with Friezas Powerlevel. Him being 100k would be better..

  • @Reppintimefitness
    @Reppintimefitness Před 8 měsíci

    I'm the greatest ‐ Vegeta

  • @deathhockey19
    @deathhockey19 Před 8 měsíci

    When was Kio Ken x 20 in DBZ? I thought x 4 was the highest in Z. I didn't think x10 or x20 was introduced till DBS?

    • @mr-saiya-jin
      @mr-saiya-jin Před 7 měsíci

      He used a multiplier of times 20 against Frieza on Namek. This was before the spirit bomb.

  • @ryan-mb5kq
    @ryan-mb5kq Před 2 měsíci

    i belive ssj3 is all the other hair you have going into your head goku just has aloooot of ball hair and thats why super baby 2s hair isnt that long

  • @NathanielPiscian
    @NathanielPiscian Před 8 měsíci +1

    What if there could be a super saiyan 5

    • @newhybrid101
      @newhybrid101 Před 8 měsíci +2

      It would look like Gogeta ssj4 but more exaggerated.
      Every fusion form looks like the next transformation.
      Vegito Ssj1 looked like SSJ2
      Base fusions have Ssj1 hairstyles etc

  • @shadowninja8960
    @shadowninja8960 Před 8 měsíci

    how strong ben 10 will be if he turn into a saiyan

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci

      Since omnitrix transform him into peak of species he would be lssj i guess
      Lower than mui Or higher depending on how much control he would have, most likely better control since he still retained his consciousness

  • @bwas1200
    @bwas1200 Před 8 měsíci

    Great content but couldn’t disagree more about Kid Buu being the strongest Buu and SSJ3 Goku being above Ultimate Gohan in terms of raw power. Took everything with a grain of salt after that.

  • @DrewIbarra714
    @DrewIbarra714 Před 2 měsíci

    Uper

  • @markramirezgatmaitancoachg6845
    @markramirezgatmaitancoachg6845 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Not coloring crayon rainbow color

  • @user-uh4os6sb2f
    @user-uh4os6sb2f Před 8 měsíci

    Ssj1g4 goku gone g3 super kamehameha instead transmission infrond of cell and he's no more.

  • @TomoTakinoFanClub
    @TomoTakinoFanClub Před 4 měsíci

    SSJ33

  • @kivatkjiggy6863
    @kivatkjiggy6863 Před 8 měsíci +1

    There wasn’t enough of a change to the anime for “kid buu is the strongest” to matter regardless of what the people in charge say.

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci

      Kid buu is strongest since God ki but can you proof he can use it like uub?

    • @kivatkjiggy6863
      @kivatkjiggy6863 Před 8 měsíci

      @@ohhellwhereami2574 why would I need to prove that?

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci

      @@kivatkjiggy6863 because he couldn't use God ki as a mindless beast otherwise he wouldn't go down to spirit bomb, even the likes of fat buu

    • @kivatkjiggy6863
      @kivatkjiggy6863 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@ohhellwhereami2574 God ki wasn’t a thing in Z. I’m also referring to super buu vs kid buu.

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci

      @@kivatkjiggy6863 still dubious
      God ki is canon to timeline tho it's just like how past material gets explained by future material

  • @user-uh4os6sb2f
    @user-uh4os6sb2f Před 8 měsíci

    Vegito can take 1000 majin boos if he wene series

  • @jasonblack2477
    @jasonblack2477 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Has he seen The new Super Sonic Form😂

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci

      Super sonic 2 ? Yes

    • @jasonblack2477
      @jasonblack2477 Před 8 měsíci

      @@ohhellwhereami2574 you mean Cybersonic🤣 since its actually a blue black fleetway looking form not golden

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci

      @@jasonblack2477 ok imma be start reading fleetway seems crazy thing

  • @8theminecraftgamer
    @8theminecraftgamer Před 8 měsíci +1

    i do not think ssj4 was part of z goku

    • @hallo23779
      @hallo23779 Před 8 měsíci

      it wasnt

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci

      I mean ssj4 is kinda what ssj 3 was going to focus around so it's related to z in sense
      And also pretty sure video is supposed to be focused on super saiyan
      Not God ki or any technique

  • @sempai4056
    @sempai4056 Před 8 měsíci

    Super Sayian 4 > God Forms/UI

  • @Grosvenor77
    @Grosvenor77 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Yea I agree that kaioken and just multipliers in general just broke any good writing in terms of progression. I dont think SSJ1 or any of them should be Multipliers. They should be fixed amounts, so they eventually become useless and require the next level to be relevant., Which they are anyways so it wouldnt change that outcome, just fix the actual scaling issue. Also another reason why SSJ1 should have been a fixed amount, What if goku went ssj1 when he landed on namek, instead of fighting Ginyu. that power would have been a joke for frieza if he got to transform. The power of legend which he was afraid of, it would make sense its above his power regardless of their base level.
    The benefit of what I mentioned above to is that other characters would have a better chance to keep up to a certain degree. But because its multipliers and they stack, It makes everything so exponential. and saiyans just absurdly broken.

    • @Grosvenor77
      @Grosvenor77 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I should also add, I feel Frieza 100% should have been at 1 million power level. It being 120 million just feels dumb to me.

  • @ferrucciocaracciuolo8139
    @ferrucciocaracciuolo8139 Před 8 měsíci

    This ia also one of the reasons i don't like Dragon ball Super Each transformations feels like Potential Wasted like What it's the Point of telling us The backstory of a transformation if the transformation is going to be Replaced immediately like this,Vegeta Talks about the Super Sayan legend The battle Goes like the original,then when the Android 17 and 18 are released Goku suddenly Goes Super Sayan 3 just to get beat up even to this should be a Stronger version of a Legend that would be anticlimactic Right that what all the fight in Super when Goku is a Sayan God ascended Sayan Super Saiyan Super Sayan God feel like.

  • @dantemunoz3135
    @dantemunoz3135 Před 2 měsíci

    Bruh, kid buu isnt the strongest, he just went straight to handling business and destroyed planets right away, and ssj3 goku isnt stronger then ultimate gohan in the buu saga🤦‍♂️

  • @themadtitan8408
    @themadtitan8408 Před 3 měsíci

    kid buu is not the strongest, that would imply that vegito is weaker tha ssj3 gou which isn't true. even goku sad he could have beaten kid buu in the beginning if he was serious, but when it came to buuhan we fuse to create vegito. i can't believe this is even a debate, buuhan is the strongest buu, kid buu isn't the weakest but he sure as hell isn't the strongest. i don't care what the creators say because they are always contradicting themselves, what we see vs what is being said.

  • @Bowen_Landry
    @Bowen_Landry Před 8 měsíci

    SSJ4 is the sexiest saiyan form 😘. Redfur covered chest, and barely his nipples. Although SSJ3 is the fabio form lol

  • @Slo-Fy
    @Slo-Fy Před 8 měsíci

    Dude, TIEN is a super Saiyan 4, he is a shaolin so he just shave his hair, actually, he always were a super saiyan, he had to hide his power in order to Akira keep Goku as the main character, why do you think he doesn't appear too much in buu saga? He would one shot the evil out of buu and reincarnate uub, just by flexing his shoulders! Tien is the Super saiyan peak, the role model!

  • @davidwood481
    @davidwood481 Před 8 měsíci

    I still say ss4 is more useful than ss3 but I can't say that ss3 wasn't a conscious choice by the writers to throw in at the time either

  • @Tactical.chocolate
    @Tactical.chocolate Před 8 měsíci

    Ssj4 for president

  • @robertgarvey4069
    @robertgarvey4069 Před 6 měsíci

    I came here to learn what the be all end all canon SSJ was but frankly I can’t pfthht understand pffftttht your accent phthhfhtht

  • @metanox1716
    @metanox1716 Před 4 měsíci

    Karen will let let Goku know the truth anyway🚮

  • @arthur_shadows5078
    @arthur_shadows5078 Před 8 měsíci

    goku isnt the originally super saiyan

    • @arthur_shadows5078
      @arthur_shadows5078 Před 8 měsíci

      the originally super saiyan is bardock

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@arthur_shadows5078non canon

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@arthur_shadows5078and there were already ssj in past but they are too far from time to point ssj is seen as extinct or rumor

    • @arthur_shadows5078
      @arthur_shadows5078 Před 8 měsíci

      @@ohhellwhereami2574 so is gt and ss4 and he still included it its non canon aswell

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@arthur_shadows5078 gt does fit in a alternate timeline sense even being promote at end of z episode but ssj bardock isn't tied to any continuity

  • @TomoTakinoFanClub
    @TomoTakinoFanClub Před 4 měsíci

    Ape

  • @Vzla360
    @Vzla360 Před 8 měsíci

    Super saiyan 4 nosralfan. So boring. And OUTDATED

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 Před 8 měsíci +4

      🤡 better than ssj god and blue

    • @Vzla360
      @Vzla360 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@alsimmonshellspawn6021 overrated design. Because in power its waaaaaaaaayyy behind ssj god.

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@Vzla360 better design than those overrated god transformation 🤡

    • @brightspeed6782
      @brightspeed6782 Před 8 měsíci

      Nosralfan?

    • @poppedcherry4030
      @poppedcherry4030 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Can't enjoy both forms just keep going at each other for no reason at all. I'll sit here and watch this pointless argument.

  • @TomoTakinoFanClub
    @TomoTakinoFanClub Před 4 měsíci

    Stupid Saiyan 3