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@@thatonerandomdude8711 yes Lowry has the most all stars in raptors history at 6 he was an all nba player at the toughest position and won a chip as our starting guard
Wouldn’t have won the ship without kawhi and pascal. Kawhi led the team as finals mvp. And can’t forget Vince carter either, greatest dunker ever in the nba and spent most of his career in the raptors, lowry was good but he couldn’t get the raptors anywhere.
What do you mean longevity? Giannis was only good since 2017. Means he was only good by about 5 or 6 years as a buck cus he was never a beast in his rookie season so for now kareem has the spot and pretty sure giannis will replace him in a year or two. Giannis is only 27 or 28 you're to excited my man. No hate
So he accomplished all that in less time, even better. People are only saying Giannis because of recency bias lol….maybe he will end up as the Bucks goat but for sure rn it’s young Kareem
@@frfrwavine bro what Kyle is top 10 PGs OAT in his prime he lead his team to the 2019 championship with kwahi he averaged 22 ppg 8 and 5 so idk what u talking about
Wilt played for the Sixers 3 and a half seasons. They won a ring and he won MVP 3 years in a row. The number of seasons he led the league in the following categories during his stay in Philly: Scoring(2) FG%(4) TS%(1) RBS(3) MPG(3) PER(4) WS(3) WSper48(3) Tip Dubs(2)
Bob Pettit for hawks Jason Kidd for Nets Bob McAdoo for clippers (cp3 is acceptable) Marc Gasol for Grizzlies (Z-Bo is acceptable) Anthony Davis for Pelicans (CP3 is acceptable) Westbrook for Thunder Dwight Howard for magic Devin Booker for Suns Wes Unseld for Wizards My personal changes to this list
@@yerik6034 he was a top 5 MVP candidate last year, he has won MIP and ROTY, lead his team to the playoffs each year and putting the grizzlies on his back each year, getting to the to 2nd Round of the playoffs while being a 2 seed, doing this in only 2 years. He also averaged 7 more points last year than Zach Randolph’s best season. Beat that
Wilt played for the Sixers 3 and a half seasons. They won a ring and he won MVP 3 years in a row. The number of seasons he led the league in the following categories during his stay in Philly: Scoring(2) FG%(4) TS%(1) RBS(3) MPG(3) PER(4) WS(3) WSper48(3) Tip Dubs(2)
For the bucks it has to be Giannis. Kareem may have 1 more mvp, but voter fatigue didn’t exist when Kareem played. Giannis also has a Defensive Player of the Year and a Most Improved Player award. He’s also the bucks all time leading scoring. I would take that over another mvp, but that’s just me. Also a 50 point finals close out too👀
@@baseupp12 You need to brush up on your basketball knowledge. Between his two championships Kareem won 6 of the 9 possible MVPs. Any MVP he rightfully "should've" won would be taken off man in the 80s like Moses Malone, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson etc... And he was old then, he was not winning over them. So you are WRONG.
@@JT-km6thno, you're wrong. You have quite literally no basis to say that "Kareem didn't have voter fatigue," Regardless, voter fatigue is a terrible argument. People win MVPs for different reasons. I stg voter fatigue is an argument Bron fans made up so they can excuse him not winning everything
@@VelaniTheOne Just like Russlel. Won the MVP 3 times without being First Team center. In fact, was only All NBA First team 3 times in his career. Fatigue could have been part of it with Cowens, BUT the players voted for MVP and the media voted for All NBA. If they voted the same way as today, Chamberlainwould have had 6 or 7 MVP's.
@@TonyStark-oq1bw true, but Zach Randolph is the longest tenured All star level player in Grizzlies history, so I think he deserves the spot over Marc Gasol
@@mr_bruh8683 No we all knew how good he was 11 rings that is insane but now that he passed we are just saying it we all knew it before unless you just are acting to seem like you knew who he was and are doing it for attention
@@TylerVolner-du5onDame never made the finals and he’s on the bucks now. I don’t blame him and I’m a dame fan but Drexler was on the team for plenty of time and was a more complete player. He was one of the top 2 players in the league, during the time of Michael Jordan. Dame has been maybe top 5 at best during his career.
if he said shit abt steph i was abt to press the report button, all my fyp is giving me is “ohh steph is over rated” “he’s getting old” like stop yapping and maybe do smth with ur life?? ok that was rlly aggressive but if it’s happening to u, ygwim 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@ACLA23 shaq had Nick Anderson, Tree Rollins, Horace Grant, Penny, and Darrell Armstrong. Dwight had an Old injured Turk who was shooting less than 50%. Dwight Had JJ Reddick averaging less than 10pts a game. Dwight had Rashard Lewis and Jameer Nelson, who aren't even comparible to Penny and Horace Grant skill wise. Not to mention that season, Dwight was averaging 20pts, 14rbds, and 3 blocks. Dwight was dpoy that year and took his team to the finals getting through the sixers, the big Three celtics, and Lebron's Cavs. Dwight did more with Less
Yeah he played 19 seasons for them and only missed 22 games. And he’s all time in assists and steals I’m not a jazz fan but I’d definitely take him especially with some of the things Karl Malone has done I would rather have Stockton be the main goat of my team lol
I love how nobody talks about bill russel 6 defensive player of the year awards 5 mvps 11 rings and rookie of the year and won 2 rings as a coach for the team and played as a coach like come on yall that’s a lot he contributed so so much to celtics
@@maliaisgoofy so we are forgetting lowrys longevity with toronto, his 6 all stars with toronto, all nba 3rd team with toronto and being the leader for assists, steals and 3s for toronto.
@@maliaisgoofy buddy, vince carter and chris bosh both hated playing in toronto by the end of their time there and made it very public. How's the goat of the raptors gonna be someone that the fans booed for 15 years straight after they left and dissed the franchise? Respect to vince and bosh for doing what they did for the raptors but lowry stuck around through the failures and jokes to win a chip. even said he would sign a 2 day and retire with the raptors. thats a goat
@@BigClaysBeans who was the one making the plays for them? Magic right, without magic no run and gun, and that means lakers would still be running pointless isos, So yh magic saved them
That's because you're not a Celtics fan. That's all there is to it. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird absolutely saved basketball. It would not be what it is today if it wasn't for those guys. When you think Celtics you think Larry Bird.
@@woketv781the fact is when you think about the Celtics you think about Larry Bird. He is the goat of that franchise. He and magic absolutely save the league. Before they got in the game the finals was on tape delay. Bill Russell is well-respected for building the game and for what he did. Everybody that knows basketball and how the league was operated understands that between regional drafting and free agency and literally not being a thing, only a couple of teams could compete and the Celtics were one of the teams with eight of the top 20 players in the entire league every single year. Bill Russell was surrounded by bought-and-paid-for Hall of famers
Kyle Lowry played most of his careers to the Raptors and the only HOF caliber player that Won a Ring for the Raptors. He's also probably the first Jersey that the Raptors might retired. Vince, Bosh, left the Raptors without achieving anything. Kawhi brought them championship but only played for them for 1 season.
Agreed with Lowry, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Scottie takes that spot later on. But I love Lowry, that wasn’t hate towards him, he’s one of my favorite players of all time.
Come on John deserves that spot and I know Karl Malone is in the list for 2nd most points in NBA history but the stories about John and how tough that man is just admirable and respectable plus his leadership and passing ability added with his brilliance of shooting the ball deserves to be respected.
@Celuta96 at the time he was second all time for total points scored. Correction. No he wasn't. Had a brainfart for a moment. Om sure this dude meant 3rd.
I feel like for Kobe, Kobe created a legacy in LA that was different from Magic. How his work ethic and inspirational. Magic is better but Kobe is my Goat. Btw I think Giannis better than Bucks Kareem
Ur taking Giannis over Kareem? Go ahead and say Giannis is better than Kareem, because Kareem spent his best seasons on the bucks. Let’s also take into account who they had on their roster. Kareem had an aging Oscar Robertson who he carried to the finals. The other players are just trash and do not need to be mentioned. Giannis had Jrue Holdiay, Khris Middleton, and a lot of good role players. It is clear who had more talent on their roster. Kareem had his team on his back, averaging 35 and 16 on 60% shooting the season he won his championship. In the finals, Kareem put up 42.3 points, 15.6 rebounds 4.1 assists on 60% shooting. Not to mention Kareem is a better free throw and mid range shooter. Giannis in the finals put up 35.2 points 13.2 rebounds and 5 assists. This is certainly impressive. But this is not better than Kareem. Stay in your lane. It is an extremely stupid take to argue Giannis over Kareem for best player on the Bucks.
@@mam-ba I’m just saying, the recency bias against Kareem and other great players is actually crazy. I’ve just showed you the stats, I can’t do anything more to convince you. I respect your opinion, I am just saying my own opinion which the stats back up. If you take Giannis over Kareem, you can do that. But if you say Giannis is better than Kareem, either you put Kareem top 20 all time behind Giannis, or you put Giannis top 3 all time, I don’t know about that. Whatever you can have your own opinion.
Hawks: Wilkins Celtics: Bird or Russell Nets: Dr J. Hornets: Kemba Bulls: MJ Cavs: LeBron Mavs: Dirk Nuggets: Melo Alex English or Jokic Pistons: Isiah Warriors: Curry Rockets: Hakeem Pacers: Reggie Clippers: McAdoo or CP3 Lakers: Kobe Grizzlies: Pau Heat: Wade Bucks: Kareem Wolves: KG Pelicans: CP3 Knicks: Ewing Thunder: Westbrook or KD Magic: Shaq or Dwight Sixers: AI or Moses Malone Suns: Barkley Blazers: Dame or Clyde Kings: Big O Spurs: Duncan Raptors: Kawhi or Vince Jazz: Karl Malone Wizards: Wes Unseld
@@TheGreatestContent they’re only hall of fame because they have like 10 rings, Bill Russell should be the goat of that franchise because he won them 11 rings.
Ur taking Giannis over Kareem? Go ahead and say Giannis is better than Kareem, because Kareem spent his best seasons on the bucks. Let’s also take into account who they had on their roster. Kareem had an aging Oscar Robertson who he carried to the finals. The other players are just trash and do not need to be mentioned. Giannis had Jrue Holdiay, Khris Middleton, and a lot of good role players. It is clear who had more talent on their roster. Kareem had his team on his back, averaging 35 and 16 on 60% shooting the season he won his championship. In the finals, Kareem put up 42.3 points, 15.6 rebounds 4.1 assists on 60% shooting. Not to mention Kareem is a better free throw and mid range shooter. Giannis in the finals put up 35.2 points 13.2 rebounds and 5 assists. This is certainly impressive. But this is not better than Kareem. Stay in your lane. It is an extremely stupid take to argue Giannis over Kareem for best player on the Bucks.
@@woketv781 cap, in the 70s you had players like Bob Mcadoo, Wilt Chamberlain, jerry West, Elgin Baylor, John Havlicek, Wes Unseld, Dave Cowens, and tons of other dudes I’m forgetting. The 60s are the weakest era of basketball. Giannis did not do more with a bucks uniform, as Kareem averaged more points in a bucks uniform, and more rebounds, on better efficiency. He won 1 more MVP than Giannis, and they both got 1 championship. Kareem would’ve got much more rings on the Bucks if he had a young Oscar Robertson, and any good players. He carried his team and averaged 30 points in his time with the bucks. Bucks Kareem is better than Lakers Kareem, so if you say Giannis is better than Bucks Kareem, go ahead and say Giannis is better than Kareem period.
@@ibrahimahmed2807 Kareem's better years and where he won more awards was as a Laker. Kareem has the better resume of his WHOLE career in the nba than Giannis has rn, but just soley as a Bucks, im taking Giannis but it's close though
Magic has more mvp’s, led the lakers to just as many titles, the lakers had better records during magics seasons and magic did all thay during a FAR tougher era, 2000’s the weakest era since the 70’s
@@jaminlauder You used games played as a stat for this argument🤓. It's also pretty well known numbers don't mean everything. Lowry had a better team so of course he got some rings, while VC really had nothing. If you compare KL and VC anyone will agree that VC is better. Vince Carter is just far more accomplished and known for a B class player to be better than him. Sure KL is accomplished, but it's idiotic to assume Vince is worse.
@@matthewsecundino3657 I know vinces prime was better, I'm saying that kyle did more in his time with the raps and played longer for them. I also used games played for raps because you need to of played alot of games for the raps to be the best player or else kawai, hakeem, or tmac would be our G.R.O.A.T.
For OKC it's definitely Westbrook... Dude played his heart out every game for OKC
Ye
Agree
facts
It should’ve been gary payton instead
No
Shaq would be sooooo Mad if he see's this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He might not mind Magic being above him
@@crazygamer-mr6nr 😵
Nah Shaq is super humble. I see where you’re coming from but shaq said he should get cut from the all time lakers squad over lakers Lebron
@@crustybandaid2244 He wouldn't be mad because of him not being 1 he'd be mad cause this guy is taking Kobe off the 1 spot.
Shaq says Kobe is the best laker of all time
Did anyone notice that he was perfectly fine with Kyle Lowry for the raptors
Because he probably is bro
Kyle Lowry over pascal, Kawhi and Vince?
@@thatonerandomdude8711 yes Lowry has the most all stars in raptors history at 6 he was an all nba player at the toughest position and won a chip as our starting guard
Wouldn’t have won the ship without kawhi and pascal. Kawhi led the team as finals mvp. And can’t forget Vince carter either, greatest dunker ever in the nba and spent most of his career in the raptors, lowry was good but he couldn’t get the raptors anywhere.
@@thatonerandomdude8711 Lowry led the team to the conference finals in 2016 as the best player
As a Celtics fan Bill Russell should be our goat: 11 rings 5 mvps. Larry Bird: 3 rings 3 mvps
yeah exactly, I agree (also a Celtics fan)
larry bird just makes sense for the celtics when i think of a celtic i think of larry bird
@@pwnser fair enough, but Bill Russell is the best defensive player of all time and he has 11 rings
Russell above Bird. Im a bird fan but Russell's impact on and off the court is unmatched
agreed @@MKHLX
Kareem and Wilt wondering whether they even existed…
If they never switched teams it would be easier to place them
@@IHateCraccers yea but Kareem was way better on the bucks
Fr
Fax why is Curry so overrated. He is top 20 maybe top 15 but not better then Wilt
@@CMac12340 fr he is a bit overrated
Kareem was in Milwaukee for 4 years. Longevity always plays a role
Really?
What do you mean longevity? Giannis was only good since 2017. Means he was only good by about 5 or 6 years as a buck cus he was never a beast in his rookie season so for now kareem has the spot and pretty sure giannis will replace him in a year or two. Giannis is only 27 or 28 you're to excited my man. No hate
@@chumchum2322 but he’s not leaving anytime soon he said that himself
So he accomplished all that in less time, even better. People are only saying Giannis because of recency bias lol….maybe he will end up as the Bucks goat but for sure rn it’s young Kareem
@@omaraman9411 ever heard of lying?
The Dwight hate by the NBA is crazy
His trash
Shaq is better tho
@@Jcggaming811not as a magic
@@Himmyjewett yes he is he brought them to 2 finals and won roty
@@Jcggaming811 only because Mike wasn't playing for 98% of that time, Dwight Howard beat LeBron in playoffs to go the finals and won 3* dpoty
For lakers, Kobe is the goat, he is the icon of the franchise
doesn’t matter if he’s the icon he’s not the goat of the franchise lol
Kobe won 2 rings for the Lakers without shaq, magic couldn't win any without Kareem
Of ourse he is
KOBE IS OUR PERMANENT GOAT! RIP Kobe, you're the great!
@@rddr973magic said himself that kobe is the best laker, Fucking casuals man
U know ur teams history is bad when Zach Randolph is ur GOAT💀
And kemba walker💀
Grizzlies Goat will be Ja, Raptors might be Siakam or Scottie, and Lamelo will eventually do it for the hornets. these are predictions
or just how little history they have.
@@sangdieng5024 what's wrong tho... kemba averaged 26 6 and 4 on 44% from the field and 36 percent from 3 and on 1.2 steals
@@frfrwavine bro what Kyle is top 10 PGs OAT in his prime he lead his team to the 2019 championship with kwahi he averaged 22 ppg 8 and 5 so idk what u talking about
Fanduel prob just doesn’t want association with Karl Malone
Fr
They’re interchangeable anyways
@@dallin9403 no, they really arent
@@Someone-hi1nt yeah they are Karl Malone had more MVP and points but Stockton spent his entire career there earning two unbreakable records
@@dallin9403 of course, but while they were there (pretty much both players whole careers), karl was ALWAYS the number one option from year 1
The funny thing is the best player there is probably MJ or LeBron but CP3 is the only one with 2 teams😂
This is straight up a perfect redo of this list and Dr J is the Sixers G.O.A.T
Wilt has the same number of rings and 3 MVP's in a row. with the Sixers.
Wilt played for the Sixers 3 and a half seasons. They won a ring and he won MVP 3 years in a row. The number of seasons he led the league in the following categories during his stay in Philly:
Scoring(2)
FG%(4)
TS%(1)
RBS(3)
MPG(3)
PER(4)
WS(3)
WSper48(3)
Tip Dubs(2)
Why is Dr j the nets and not kidd...j erving played for the nets in the aba
Marc Gasol for the grizzlies and in the future it's gonna be Ja
I don’t know who put Zach on there..It’s not like they played in different eras..they literally played at the same team Bruh..still live zebo though
Ja going to be out The League LOL
Ja ain’t even gonna play 100 games without getting suspended 5 times 😅
I respect taking john stockton on the jazz
Yea Malone should have got the death penalty
same
Stockton isn't a S offender
Facts Pedo Malone isn’t a goat on any team
@@clickbait3753 Look we know but how does this affect lebron a legacy?
Jk but it’s basketball we just focusing on basketball here
Bob Pettit for hawks
Jason Kidd for Nets
Bob McAdoo for clippers (cp3 is acceptable)
Marc Gasol for Grizzlies (Z-Bo is
acceptable)
Anthony Davis for Pelicans (CP3 is acceptable)
Westbrook for Thunder
Dwight Howard for magic
Devin Booker for Suns
Wes Unseld for Wizards
My personal changes to this list
Devin Booker is easily not the best player on the suns all time
@@LimesandLemons he’s not the best, but he is the greatest. Big difference
@@CheckTMOW it’s Barkley or nash
Nets is Dr J not J Kidd
hayes wilt malone hello
Bob Peditt is the Hawks GOAT.
Where’s the magic actual all time goat Shaq🐐
Penny
Tmac
Nah it should be penny and also shaq was in his prime when he was on the laker
Darth Kaleb he made the magic worse lmao as soon as he left they got better
Sana warraich he led them to the finals
When ur GOAT is Zach Randolph that just shows how rough is has been but Ja will easily take that over here soon
Agreed
Marc Gasoul was snubbed
Ja is probably already the goat for the grizzlies
@@Sixer_fn bruh what has he done for the grizz organization ?
@@yerik6034 he was a top 5 MVP candidate last year, he has won MIP and ROTY, lead his team to the playoffs each year and putting the grizzlies on his back each year, getting to the to 2nd Round of the playoffs while being a 2 seed, doing this in only 2 years. He also averaged 7 more points last year than Zach Randolph’s best season. Beat that
Brian Scalabrine was severely robbed for the Celtics like come on man are you kidding me
Don’t come here and say well actually🤓
Brian Scalabrine was the only reason the 08 celtics won. Just having that man In the bench already makes him the finals mvp
@@user-ls9ic5vr1g fr
So no Bill Russell
@@imhorsin8086 no bill sucked compared to Brian
Kemba Walker will always be my goat 💙🤍
Nobody talking bout Zach Randolph being the Grizzlies Goat when Marc Gasol is right there
Ong
Or Mike Conley
I want anyone to look me in the eye and tell me that they would rather have dame over Clyde the glide
Apparently I can’t do so because I wAsNt AlIvE tO sEe HiM so dame better 🤷🏾♂️
How had Portland won a championship and no one mentions Walton. It's fucking Walton
@@memoentj8826 it’s Clyde stupid
@@memoentj8826 he deserves his respect fr, imagine if him, roy and arvydas were healthy it sucks how unlucky the blazers are
100% I'm taking Dame over Drexler.
Damn shout out to Kemba lol
Wilt played for the Sixers 3 and a half seasons. They won a ring and he won MVP 3 years in a row. The number of seasons he led the league in the following categories during his stay in Philly:
Scoring(2)
FG%(4)
TS%(1)
RBS(3)
MPG(3)
PER(4)
WS(3)
WSper48(3)
Tip Dubs(2)
For the bucks it has to be Giannis. Kareem may have 1 more mvp, but voter fatigue didn’t exist when Kareem played. Giannis also has a Defensive Player of the Year and a Most Improved Player award. He’s also the bucks all time leading scoring. I would take that over another mvp, but that’s just me. Also a 50 point finals close out too👀
Voter fatigue definitely existed for Kareem he should have about 2 more mvps
@@baseupp12 You need to brush up on your basketball knowledge. Between his two championships Kareem won 6 of the 9 possible MVPs. Any MVP he rightfully "should've" won would be taken off man in the 80s like Moses Malone, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson etc... And he was old then, he was not winning over them. So you are WRONG.
@@JT-km6thno, you're wrong. You have quite literally no basis to say that "Kareem didn't have voter fatigue,"
Regardless, voter fatigue is a terrible argument. People win MVPs for different reasons. I stg voter fatigue is an argument Bron fans made up so they can excuse him not winning everything
Voter fatigue was absolutely a thing back in Kareems day, in '72 Kareem was first team all-nba, but Dave Cowens won the MVP.
@@VelaniTheOne Just like Russlel. Won the MVP 3 times without being First Team center. In fact, was only All NBA First team 3 times in his career. Fatigue could have been part of it with Cowens, BUT the players voted for MVP and the media voted for All NBA. If they voted the same way as today, Chamberlainwould have had 6 or 7 MVP's.
John Stockton has two all time records that won't be broken for decades. He has to be jazz all time best.
Plus karl malone likes 13 years old girls
@trash that’s a good point
we dont like karl malone in this house
What he's done may be wrong but it's not like he wasn't a good player
And Karl Malone is a pedophile
is nobody gonna talk about zach randolph 💀
Who else could it be, Grizzlies dont got much
He’s the only all star level player who’s played for the Grizzlies for any extended amount of time lol
Don’t disrespect z-bo lil bro
I mean Marc gasol has the most accolades out of anyone in the grit and grind era
@@TonyStark-oq1bw true, but Zach Randolph is the longest tenured All star level player in Grizzlies history, so I think he deserves the spot over Marc Gasol
Bro doesn’t know basketball but he knows how to ride that 🚴
Magic said Kobe. That’s about as definitive as it gets in my book
That means nothing
@@maurakoq3492 Magic had Kareem for all his rings.
@@mohamedgueye8040 kobe had shaq for 3 and the 00’s were a weak as fuck decade, doesn’t even compare to the 80’s, 90’s or 2010’s
@@daindekruijter3893 Magic fucking had kareem
@@Baby-Pluto_q kobe had shaq and played in a massively weaker era
I was losing respect for this man until he said Caruso was the goat 🐐+1000 respect
But it was the first thing? 💀
He probably talking about his other vids
@@ykz1 yeah I mean watching his other vids I was starting to lose his respect
Same Caruso is the goat and people who say otherwise are haters 😤
@@thelonelydekuscrub4817 fax!
stock so underrated. look at his assists an steals. Those will never be broken
Yeah but karl Malone is still better
I don’t know why I’m so against Kemba being the Hornets pick
Who should it be then?
Okc is westbrook change my mind
I dunno but I know for a fact it’s not kd
Westbrook never lead his team to anything unlike kd.
@@JK-nh2it kd lead his team to what 💀
@@lhype1748 A first round exit💀
(On a serious note once we led them to Finals against Lebron)
@@lhype1748 The finals 😪😪 maybe you are too young to have watched KD vs LeBron
Okc : Westbrook
nah
@@nicosbetter KD the goat of the team he betrayed ?
@@musedits5442 yes
OKC loves russ. They HATE KD
@@adriandantedanosos4146 the list isn’t about love it’s about the best player of that teams history and Westbrook isn’t better than KD
patrick ewing over kevin knox is wild
You can never have Kalr Malone be a goat, cuz he was the opposite of a great person
Alex Caruso > Michael Jordan
Agreed
Disagree
Disagree
Fax
@@Lay_Clips r/woooooooooooooooosh
it’s giannis bc milwaukee knows he’s never leaving
Can compete with being the best player in the league 3 times and I also think this MVPs we're in a row
Because he's never leaving doesn't make him the goat
@@galaxycat1122 why isn’t Bron the heat goat
@@galaxycat1122 Hes the bucks goat
Chris Paul up here twice😂😂😂 pelicans and clippers😂😂
Most people say Kyle for the raps
But I’d have to say carter all day less seasons and team success but come on vin sanity !!
Respect for wes unseld! Underrated HOF
Literally the most overrated HOF and worst MVP of all time by a mile. The Elvin Hayes disrespect is unreal
@@Ash-uf4fv ...
@@Razor_Gaming Ur saying Wed Unseld is better than Elvin Hayes? Laughable
@@Ash-uf4fv Nah I'm saying the Wes Unseld disrespect is crazy
@@Razor_Gaming He put up Andre Drummond numbers I dont know what abt that denotes MVP or HOF
Bill Russell over Larry bird
not even bro
RIP to the greatest winner
I completely agree R.I.P
naw cap don’t get me wrong bill russell good but y’all just overhyping him now that he’s passed
@@mr_bruh8683 No we all knew how good he was 11 rings that is insane but now that he passed we are just saying it we all knew it before unless you just are acting to seem like you knew who he was and are doing it for attention
Trail blazers should be Clyde Drexler
Dame has been there his whole career while drexler was on a couple teams
Nah👐
@@TylerVolner-du5onDame never made the finals and he’s on the bucks now.
I don’t blame him and I’m a dame fan but Drexler was on the team for plenty of time and was a more complete player. He was one of the top 2 players in the league, during the time of Michael Jordan. Dame has been maybe top 5 at best during his career.
if he said shit abt steph i was abt to press the report button, all my fyp is giving me is “ohh steph is over rated” “he’s getting old” like stop yapping and maybe do smth with ur life??
ok that was rlly aggressive but if it’s happening to u, ygwim 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
marc gasol for the grizzlies
I agree with everything except Dwight being the Magic’s GOAT
Magic Dwight > magic shaq. He went to the finals with less
Skittles who was in the 95 magic team besides penny. Dwight had Turk Jameer Rashard Lewis. And a few others
@@ACLA23 shaq had Nick Anderson, Tree Rollins, Horace Grant, Penny, and Darrell Armstrong. Dwight had an Old injured Turk who was shooting less than 50%. Dwight Had JJ Reddick averaging less than 10pts a game. Dwight had Rashard Lewis and Jameer Nelson, who aren't even comparible to Penny and Horace Grant skill wise. Not to mention that season, Dwight was averaging 20pts, 14rbds, and 3 blocks. Dwight was dpoy that year and took his team to the finals getting through the sixers, the big Three celtics, and Lebron's Cavs. Dwight did more with Less
@@ACLA23 Jameer Nelson missed a good chunk of the playoffs that year.
95 magic was regarded as arguably the best team to never win championship before 2010s warriors era
Respectfully, as a Jazz fan, John Stockton is definitely the GOAT of the Jazz.
Yeah he played 19 seasons for them and only missed 22 games. And he’s all time in assists and steals I’m not a jazz fan but I’d definitely take him especially with some of the things Karl Malone has done I would rather have Stockton be the main goat of my team lol
Hell no
Shouldve been Karl Malone but he busy playing with kids
@@Velocityspeaksfacts Lol
It is stockton
Karl Malone doesn't deserve any respect tbh
Fr even if he wasn’t Josh giddey’s mentor I would still but Stockton at 1 he’s the all time leader in assists and steals
Know some kids had a seizure when he said Kobe wasn't the goat
I was so expecting him to say Caruso again 😂
I didn't
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I love how nobody talks about bill russel 6 defensive player of the year awards 5 mvps 11 rings and rookie of the year and won 2 rings as a coach for the team and played as a coach like come on yall that’s a lot he contributed so so much to celtics
Bro just didn’t say anything about Kyle Lowry for the Raptors🤣
because he is correct
@@rocraft. no it isnt, carter and bosh are. Lowry just helped with a chip
@@maliaisgoofy so we are forgetting lowrys longevity with toronto, his 6 all stars with toronto, all nba 3rd team with toronto and being the leader for assists, steals and 3s for toronto.
@@maliaisgoofy buddy, vince carter and chris bosh both hated playing in toronto by the end of their time there and made it very public. How's the goat of the raptors gonna be someone that the fans booed for 15 years straight after they left and dissed the franchise? Respect to vince and bosh for doing what they did for the raptors but lowry stuck around through the failures and jokes to win a chip. even said he would sign a 2 day and retire with the raptors. thats a goat
Hes correct tho
And i took that personally
And Kobe Bryant had a 1v1 to mj that we can't forget
Magic saved the lakers from going fcking bankrupt
@@GigaChadCouncil lmao yeah him and the rest of the showtime lakers you mean?
@@BigClaysBeans who was the one making the plays for them? Magic right, without magic no run and gun, and that means lakers would still be running pointless isos, So yh magic saved them
Kobe literally just a worse,
Less efficient MJ, magic did more in a far tougher era and conference
@@daindekruijter3893 magic had the fourth best player of all time Kareem and Jame worthy a Finald MVP caliber player
For the Celtics I would put Bill Russell
@SWIFT-KC :(
@SWIFT-KC Bill Russell got it by a mile
That's because you're not a Celtics fan. That's all there is to it. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird absolutely saved basketball. It would not be what it is today if it wasn't for those guys. When you think Celtics you think Larry Bird.
@@woketv781the fact is when you think about the Celtics you think about Larry Bird. He is the goat of that franchise. He and magic absolutely save the league. Before they got in the game the finals was on tape delay. Bill Russell is well-respected for building the game and for what he did. Everybody that knows basketball and how the league was operated understands that between regional drafting and free agency and literally not being a thing, only a couple of teams could compete and the Celtics were one of the teams with eight of the top 20 players in the entire league every single year. Bill Russell was surrounded by bought-and-paid-for Hall of famers
Man I kinda think it’s AD for the pels but I understand CP3
My dude puts way too much stock in MVPs.
I got 12 reasons why Karl Malone ain't the GOAT of the jazz
i got 13😏🤣🤣🤣
As much bad person he was he is still a great player
@@omarjaafar6020 and without Stockton he wouldn't have ever got where he was at
@@itztokeyo so wouldn't that take out Stockton because most of his assist we're to Malone
@@itztokeyo Karl was in MVP conversations an won MVPs stockon isn't
Bro put prime bron under wade 💀
Yes, wade deserves it he played with the team for like his whole career
Wade did more for miama than bron did, these aren’t the best players for every team it’s who did the most for these teams
kareem played with construction workers and high school gym teachers bro
Seattle SuperSonics: Gary Payton
#20 gonna be the first number up in the Rafters when we get our team back.
So no one gonna talk about Kyle mcthickums for the raptors?
Kyle Lowry played most of his careers to the Raptors and the only HOF caliber player that Won a Ring for the Raptors. He's also probably the first Jersey that the Raptors might retired. Vince, Bosh, left the Raptors without achieving anything. Kawhi brought them championship but only played for them for 1 season.
@@my_other_side473 fair enough ig
@@my_other_side473 kyle lowry ain’t the only hof caliber player who won a ring with toronto…. But he does deserve the spot
@@daindekruijter3893 may I ask who?? Cause I've never think of any, other than him?
@@my_other_side473 kawhi leanord is a lock for the hof and helped the raptors win the ring
These man just said Dwight Howard tf where Shaq at from the magic
Dwight played more seasons and won 3 dpoty awards on the team and took them to the finals
@@Complexityspaz Shaq was a all star in his rookie season an took them to the finals also.
@@woketv781 yeah but Dwight not only played longer for the team but also won more awards
Agreed with Lowry, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Scottie takes that spot later on. But I love Lowry, that wasn’t hate towards him, he’s one of my favorite players of all time.
Just about every Jazz fan would put John Stockton as the GOAT. The only other competitor is a guy who everyone wants to forget even existed.
0:31 Nope, we disagree. Its Shaq.
Grizzlies should be Marc Gasol, Mike Conley or Ja Morant
Not ja too early but marc gasol is definetly the best pick
Ja could end up being their goat as long as he don’t get injured and end up like d rose
Ja will be the GOAT in a couple years probably in like 3 LOL
So we not gonna talk about how they have Dwade over Lebron for the heat
Lebron was on the heat for just 4 years man. Dwade is unquestionably the heat's GOAT
Alex Caruso got me laughing 🤣
But it is true 👍
No it’s not
@@JaMorantDunk just a joke 🤣
@@JaMorantDunkBro hiw dont you get a joke
Come on John deserves that spot and I know Karl Malone is in the list for 2nd most points in NBA history but the stories about John and how tough that man is just admirable and respectable plus his leadership and passing ability added with his brilliance of shooting the ball deserves to be respected.
Besides John Stockton is not a pedophile and a scumbag father.
Not to mention he isn't a fucking pedophile
2nd most points?
@Celuta96 at the time he was second all time for total points scored. Correction. No he wasn't. Had a brainfart for a moment. Om sure this dude meant 3rd.
Oh yeah sorry about that
Hornets goat is definitely either glen rice or Alonzo mourning
Bro they did Bill Russel dirty
No they didn't, he's hella overrated.
@@FieldEmperor no he isn’t, he had more rings than fingers
Bill Russell is not overrated, he's a legend, but Larry Bird was just the more complete player. R.I.P Bill Russell.
@@ryanteksten9287superteam
@@ryanteksten9287 bill russel isnt even top ten
bro advocated for bozo malone in 4k ultra hd self-snitching style💀
imagine being so good you're the GOAT in 2 nba teams.
CP0 Dount man somehow did it shows how bad those teams are
Pelicans should've easily been AD.
I feel like for Kobe, Kobe created a legacy in LA that was different from Magic. How his work ethic and inspirational. Magic is better but Kobe is my Goat. Btw I think Giannis better than Bucks Kareem
Fax
Ur taking Giannis over Kareem? Go ahead and say Giannis is better than Kareem, because Kareem spent his best seasons on the bucks. Let’s also take into account who they had on their roster. Kareem had an aging Oscar Robertson who he carried to the finals. The other players are just trash and do not need to be mentioned. Giannis had Jrue Holdiay, Khris Middleton, and a lot of good role players. It is clear who had more talent on their roster. Kareem had his team on his back, averaging 35 and 16 on 60% shooting the season he won his championship. In the finals, Kareem put up 42.3 points, 15.6 rebounds 4.1 assists on 60% shooting. Not to mention Kareem is a better free throw and mid range shooter. Giannis in the finals put up 35.2 points 13.2 rebounds and 5 assists. This is certainly impressive. But this is not better than Kareem. Stay in your lane. It is an extremely stupid take to argue Giannis over Kareem for best player on the Bucks.
@@ibrahimahmed2807 bro a essay is crazy. That’s my opinion I just think that Giannis is better than Bucks Kareem
@@mam-ba I’m just saying, the recency bias against Kareem and other great players is actually crazy. I’ve just showed you the stats, I can’t do anything more to convince you. I respect your opinion, I am just saying my own opinion which the stats back up. If you take Giannis over Kareem, you can do that. But if you say Giannis is better than Kareem, either you put Kareem top 20 all time behind Giannis, or you put Giannis top 3 all time, I don’t know about that. Whatever you can have your own opinion.
Bro Vince Carter for the raptors
Hawks: Wilkins
Celtics: Bird or Russell
Nets: Dr J.
Hornets: Kemba
Bulls: MJ
Cavs: LeBron
Mavs: Dirk
Nuggets: Melo Alex English or Jokic
Pistons: Isiah
Warriors: Curry
Rockets: Hakeem
Pacers: Reggie
Clippers: McAdoo or CP3
Lakers: Kobe
Grizzlies: Pau
Heat: Wade
Bucks: Kareem
Wolves: KG
Pelicans: CP3
Knicks: Ewing
Thunder: Westbrook or KD
Magic: Shaq or Dwight
Sixers: AI or Moses Malone
Suns: Barkley
Blazers: Dame or Clyde
Kings: Big O
Spurs: Duncan
Raptors: Kawhi or Vince
Jazz: Karl Malone
Wizards: Wes Unseld
Shout out CP3 goat of 2 teams 💪🏾
Whoever made this list clearly doesn’t have any knowledge of pre 1995 nba
Fax
For lakers, let’s be honest, it should be Lebron. And for the Pelicans, it’s between CP or AD honestly
In Orlando talking about stats and Bag is easy T mac
Should have done bill Russell for the Celtics
Love Bill and RIP but nah it’s Larry
@@AndrewFenichel okay but 11 rings is insane, even back then. It goes against your Giannis take.
@@goochiethanos
But he played against my people
(5'3 unathletic kids)
@@goochiethanos He played against plumbers and had 7 HOFERS on his team.
@@TheGreatestContent they’re only hall of fame because they have like 10 rings, Bill Russell should be the goat of that franchise because he won them 11 rings.
LOWRY FOR THE RAPTORS IS CRAZY
Fr
I mean he did kinda win a ring with them and i hear a lot of ppl call him the greatest raptor
Vince carter was so good but he didnt play with them for that long
He is the 2nd all time raptor scorer behind damar and he’s the all time raptor assist leader
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Marc Gasol for the MEM...
ZACH RANDOLPH Nah that's Pau Gasol
Marc
I agree with the Giannis one and he’s my favorite player
Well sorry to break to ya bud but you're wrong
For now it’s kareem but pretty soon it’s going to be giannes
Giannis got his ring with less talent on his roster than Kareem ever did. I'm taking Giannis hands down 💯
Ur taking Giannis over Kareem? Go ahead and say Giannis is better than Kareem, because Kareem spent his best seasons on the bucks. Let’s also take into account who they had on their roster. Kareem had an aging Oscar Robertson who he carried to the finals. The other players are just trash and do not need to be mentioned. Giannis had Jrue Holdiay, Khris Middleton, and a lot of good role players. It is clear who had more talent on their roster. Kareem had his team on his back, averaging 35 and 16 on 60% shooting the season he won his championship. In the finals, Kareem put up 42.3 points, 15.6 rebounds 4.1 assists on 60% shooting. Not to mention Kareem is a better free throw and mid range shooter. Giannis in the finals put up 35.2 points 13.2 rebounds and 5 assists. This is certainly impressive. But this is not better than Kareem. Stay in your lane. It is an extremely stupid take to argue Giannis over Kareem for best player on the Bucks.
@@ibrahimahmed2807 Giannis did more in a bucks uniform. An Giannis played against Better competition. The 70s is the weakest era of NBA history.
@@woketv781 cap, in the 70s you had players like Bob Mcadoo, Wilt Chamberlain, jerry West, Elgin Baylor, John Havlicek, Wes Unseld, Dave Cowens, and tons of other dudes I’m forgetting. The 60s are the weakest era of basketball. Giannis did not do more with a bucks uniform, as Kareem averaged more points in a bucks uniform, and more rebounds, on better efficiency. He won 1 more MVP than Giannis, and they both got 1 championship. Kareem would’ve got much more rings on the Bucks if he had a young Oscar Robertson, and any good players. He carried his team and averaged 30 points in his time with the bucks. Bucks Kareem is better than Lakers Kareem, so if you say Giannis is better than Bucks Kareem, go ahead and say Giannis is better than Kareem period.
@@ibrahimahmed2807 Kareem's better years and where he won more awards was as a Laker. Kareem has the better resume of his WHOLE career in the nba than Giannis has rn, but just soley as a Bucks, im taking Giannis but it's close though
you must have hit your head, Dwight Howard...head scratcher
So we just finna diss Vince Carter like that and put Kyle Lowry for goat in Toronto 💀
Toronto hates Vince
Nah kobe deserve to stay there
i respect ur opinion, but i respectfully say you don’t know whatchu talking about, it’s clearly magic
Magic has more mvp’s, led the lakers to just as many titles, the lakers had better records during magics seasons and magic did all thay during a FAR tougher era, 2000’s the weakest era since the 70’s
he won such as many titles with kareem kobe won with pau gasol
@@shabtay2 kobe won those with paul against fucking bums, the competition kobe faced wasn’t even comparable to what magic had to face
u just aid dirk is bad
This list makes you realize the hornets never had a Great
they never will tbh. unless lamelo lives up to his insane hype. Like they expect him to be the next goat of the nba and a top 5 pg ever…
Glen rice, Alonzo mourning, Larry Johnson just to name a few
@@Avg_lightskin0 would you say better than Kemba?
@@troylowell2424 I feel like glen rice is the only one
@@Avg_lightskin0 yeah I feel like I've heard of him, anyone you could compare him too?
I’m a lifelong Sacramento Kings fan and at almost 32 years old, I’ve never even seen my franchises best player 😔😭
As a magic fan, I think Penny was a hell of a player, super underated
Ngl we ain’t gon talk Chris Paul being two teams goat like bro he really is the point god
The choke god
@@Hemestal Chris Paul is clutch
@@lemonC140 clutch at choking
@@lemonC140 Choke artist
HOW IS RAPTORS KYLE LOWRY
Did they forget about VINCE CARTER
Did you stop watching the nba in 2002? He got bounced out of the second round in his best year and then quit on the raptors lol
@@Wayne-Dwops that still doesnt justify Kyle fucking Lowry as a the raps goat 💀💀
@@user-vd8mk8sr5x the originally comment implied Carter > Lowry and I was arguing against that
@@user-vd8mk8sr5x who do you think is the raptors goat? Derozen? Kawhi? Bosh? I’d argue Lowry > all of them when it comes to franchise contributions
It’s Kawhi
Bob Pettit should be in here for the hawks
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I’m happy to see Kyle Lowry up there, true legend
Should've been Vince Carter, not a question
@@matthewsecundino3657 kyle has more Allstars, games, and rings on raps
@@jaminlauder You used games played as a stat for this argument🤓. It's also pretty well known numbers don't mean everything. Lowry had a better team so of course he got some rings, while VC really had nothing. If you compare KL and VC anyone will agree that VC is better. Vince Carter is just far more accomplished and known for a B class player to be better than him. Sure KL is accomplished, but it's idiotic to assume Vince is worse.
@@matthewsecundino3657 I know vinces prime was better, I'm saying that kyle did more in his time with the raps and played longer for them. I also used games played for raps because you need to of played alot of games for the raps to be the best player or else kawai, hakeem, or tmac would be our G.R.O.A.T.
For Celtics it’s russel, his eleven rings for the franchise is more impactful than what bird did for them
When there were 10 teams in the league?
@@zaw33mc248 teams
@@zaw33mc24 still can't take it away from him
@@brandangreen1390 Yes, but it makes it much less impressive.
Kyle Lowry for the raptors is insane
Who’s better? I have Demar Derozan at 1 and Kyle at 2
@@thatloserpig mmmmm maybe the guy that actually helped them to a championship nbf
@@Malikj661 nah cause only on season. If it was best all time than sure but length of the stay is important for me
@@thatloserpig i diggg !
I would of expected the knicks one to be the best player from the last time they won the finals being Walt Frazier