I left my old church cause of gossip and judging. It seemed like they only expect perfect people there. Now I'm in an amazing church that tells it like it is, everyone is welcome, and they preach the whole word and not just what people want to hear. And so many times the sermon was exactly what I needed to hear. That's another important reason for attending church.
That's awesome John. Yes, sometimes it takes a few attempts to get to a church that you feel comfortable at. I can definitely attest to that. Glad you found a good one!
Tad Walker I strongly recommend that you find a home church so that you can learn more about christ and grow as a Christian. also it's a way of worship and setting aside time for Him and fellowship with other believers. Now that said that doesn't mean you'll go to hell because you're not involved in a church but church is something you should make time for. Be blessed
Amen!!!The true church is the body of believers who have put their faith in Jesus Christ so that they may be as he is when he appears to the glory of God the father who made this possible for us all through his love and forgiveness of sin.
@@zefsagala1391 Perversion has entered the church and they use the scriptures the wrong way like the Pharisees.The pharisees used the sabbath and other God's laws to entrap people to glorify their own flesh and not in our Father.Jesus said in the book of John that the true person sent by God would not do his own will but the will of God the Father .We need to be alert.If you get a good church where the word of God is followed even by the Pastors and the leaders then we can go there on the sabbath or any other time. When some churches start breaking the very principles of the bible paid with blood by Christ and over 50 million saints , they have opened the door for people to do what's best for them to get do God's will the right way.
I agree. I haven't been going to church consistently in a long time but I desire to find one that God has for me to attend. I have been discouraged buy some of the things that go on in church. But I pray to find the one that God has for me to be a part of. Pray for me also
I understand. It's easy to get discouraged. There are great churches out there. I encourage you to continue your search. Remember, the church is the bride of Christ. We can't say that we don't care for the church.
True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
I have not been in a church building for 5 years now. I am part of the Body of Christ. The Body of Christ is the Bride of Christ, not the church building. Not everyone who attends a church building is a child of God.
I agree. I attempted to address this issue in a recent video. I am hoping the clarity will help bring unity in the body of Christ. czcams.com/video/n6N6lEThuMk/video.html
Is that out of not having a right church to go to, or simply worldly laziness and selfishness? My pastor once asked the same question: Can a Christian who doesn't go to church, still get into Heaven/be a Christ-follower? Basically, the answer boiled down to yes, they can, but a true Christian will desire whole-heartedly to attend a church service. We are the Church yes, but we need an organized event at least once a week to collectively worship God as a body. 'Christians' who don't desire church, can't call themselves Christian.
Some People who are leaders or involved in the church will help their church members before they help their own family. They will visit them in hospita,l nursing homes, go to their graduation celebrations,even cook them a meal. However, their own 5 grandchildren they never attended any of their 4 graduations, prom events I had a accident I begged my mom to please come and cook something or could she bring something for me to eat I was told no. I was in pain. when I graduated from high school and college. No parents or siblings came. I'm the adopted child so zi dont matter
Same. Yet my parents tell me I shouldn't go to church for the people but for God. I can always talk tp God anywhere. I don't need to go to a building and try to fit in when I obviously don't.
You are not alone. I could stop going now and no one would even call to find out why haven't been going. I could pass away and no one at the church would know. I could end up in the hospital and no one there would know. If it were not for my kids, I probably wouldn't be going. I just want them to learn about our Lord and God's word while they are young.
People. Yes the devil is in the church. He's in every church no matter which church u go to. But u got to find the church that's right 4 u. An focus on jesus. Not what wrong with that church. I did and I'm a happy Christian. Praise GOD
I've been in that situation for three years now, it's been tough but I've learned a lot about God. Don't force yourself to fit in anywhere if it means failing God (I mean if the only way they'd accept you is by gossiping or being fake or whatever). If you want to deepen your relationship with him and you feel that your church is not adding to your growth, the holy spirit is not among the people there. When he guides you, you don't reject people who want to learn more about God. So you're not missing anything really. But always pray and ask God to put you where he wants you before you decide to leave or join a new church.
We keep on saying we are the church so I don't need to go to a church building. It is true that church is the body of believers but we should keep in mind that I am not or you are not the whole body of Christ. Each of us are only a part of the body of Christ. We need to gather together to learn from each other and encourage each other not just go and gather to fill your church building. Christianity involves us with other people.
The Church is the body of Christians! Not a building! Do not lead these people astray. Church does not save you, only the blood of Jesus and the guidance of His Holy Spirit can we be saved. Better is it to be an obedient servant to Christ and show love to your enemies than to go to a building and pay money to a man every Sunday and hear him read verses that one themselves can read in the Bible. Church should be for Holy Communion & worship. That is all.
BlueFlarePictures did you even watch the video? Not going to church is blatant disobedience to God/the word. Your comment is the one leading others astray here. As we've revised, the church is about so much more than you claimed. Also clearly he never said the church saves smh... God bless
BlueFlarePictures my parents go and they criticise the preacher you're not saved just by going to a place it is your actions that matter on person can go and kill someone the next day so there is no point in going to church
Jesus says we are guilty as murders if we even hate someone. We all hate at times so it is not the act so much as the proceeding thought. The holy spirit told us not to forsake the gathering together of believers. It doesn't matter where you gather as long as you gather 2 worship pray etc.
piedpiper22 at the end of the day, we are all human. We come from sin. We will never be perfect, but all we can do is be better then we were yesterday. I dont go to church. It's not because im a nonbeliever but its because its filled with a bunch of drama. At least from my experience. People constantly criticising and judging you. I never feel welcomed.
i understand your prospective brother but scripture says.. God doesn't dwell in temples made by hand..im not telling one not to go to a church but we as believers are the church..I have a question, how many more sermons, teachings, seminars and workshops would we need until we actually started preaching the gospel outside of the church building?saving the lost also to the homeless, the poor the needy and the fatherless? remember something brothers and sisters there were many people who heard the gospel once... just a thought
THE BEAT by Allen Parr I have a question on wich day should I go to church on saturday or on sunday ? is going to church your sabbath rest im trying too find a good church.
But the churches today are not doing any thing today?.. with the 501c3 attach to their agreement to receive those Taxes since they started in the 60's if I'm not mistaken? they can't teach the old testament, or get into politics when their leader's of the people are leading us astray?.. their are so many do's and don't in that agreement that their under that 501c3 the churches again are under that agreement go read it? and its run by illumi today? so what are you saying for us to go back to those churches today? I'm totally scared today so I study and read and listen to prophets and teachers on the internet today? come from among them so I don't be partakers of their sins? also The Almighty Power!! do not dwell in Unclean temples? or Temples made by mans hands! The commandments also suppose to done away with, well if that's the case we don't need the bible any longer then,. do what you feel is right?? Remember they had commandment is heaven!.. before he sent the angels that broke them??Response please?
Joana Elysee /READ COL.2:14-17 AND ROMANS CHAPTER 14. DONT GET CAUGHT UP ON THE SABBATH DAY. SABBATH MEANS REST . CHRIST IS OUR SABBATH. YOU CAN WORSHIP ANYDAY.
The Holy Spirit does just as good a job reaching me through the Word, my prayer life, and religious media. If church is what is best for me, i trust God will point me towards the right one.
I agree, that’s the holy spirt job anyway, we’re only instruments used by Christ to speak his word and be the light of this world. God’s the only one who can save someone through the fire.
Plus we’re all suppose to preach the good news about Christ, church is just one way his word can be spoken, but we’re supposed to be fishers of men and most of the time we must go out and reach out to the lost souls that’s outside those four walls.
sadly the most I've learned about Christ has come from me getting alone with Holy Spirit and having him teach me reading and worshipping on my own and also going online to search out other teachers. the Bible says to not forsake the assembling of ourselves together that meansvforbus to not go totally lone ranger in our walk but still there are other believers who gave for s time isolated themselves from a church body in order to get deeper more intimate relations
@@missmystery4525 it's TRUE that churches dont save people. But a good church with a good pastor and Sunday school teacher can teach you some things. God put them here 4 a reason. THE GOOD ONES
The Church(believers) are the Body of Christ or the Bride of Christ. It's not a building. NOWHERE in the Bible does it say that a believer must attend a building in order to worship God or fellowship with other believers. You can worship or fellowship just about anywhere. God says He doesn't dwell in buildings made by hands (Acts 7:48-49; 17:24). God dwells in the heart of His children (1Corinthians 3:16; Ephesians 3:17; 2 Corinthians 6:16; Revelation 21:3). Question: What literal building on this Earth can contain Almighty God? NONE! If a believer wants to join himself/herself to a building called church, then that's their choice. But to say that a believer must join a congregation is not biblical.
Then if that is the choice a specific Christian is making, to not attend a “building”, I pose a follow up question. What instead are they doing to actively grow alongside other Christians in Christ? Because that IS Biblical. To live along side, fellowship, and worship with other Christians. We weren’t called to stand alone in our praise and worship and learning. So if you aren’t “going to Church” where are you getting that source? Are you active in a home small group? A weekly in house worship session? A Christian community group? There has to be something. You alone are not the church. You can’t be. But you AND I?? We are. Together. So stand with me brother, and we can love and praise Him together. We can reach others together. And you know where the most CONVENIENT place for people to do that is? ..... at a church building.
I agree. I attempted to address this issue in a recent video. I am hoping the clarity will help bring unity in the body of Christ. czcams.com/video/n6N6lEThuMk/video.html
So many people just do not understand this and it breaks my heart I love being amongst the saints no matter how jacked up we are .. we are all apart of the body and need each other
I haven't found a good church yet. Still looking. It's nice to fellowship at a church, but we need the whole Word preached to us and true acts of service being offered to the less fortunate. It's not all about socialization.
We, meaning Western Christianity, do not understand what the word "church" actually means. We always want to place a pivotal meaning on the building or organization and that is not what it is. This video sounds good to the unlearned, but it is not biblically based. Church is the body of Christ both local and worldwide and it is not connected with a building or organization such as denominations. Read Paul's epistles, especially Ephesians for more information on this subject.
I am a VERY new creation in Christ and even I understand this concept. It's quite concerning that many professing Christians today that have been around for much longer than me are sleepy when it comes to this topic...they simply don't want to hear it, or they just ignore many key verses... I'm confused about this however, because I know that the church has nothing to do with the building, even the concept of pastors/rabbis/preists etc was abolished by Jesus. but I still try to attend these gatherings in the hopes that I can fellowship with true believers, and we can splinter off into smaller more dedicated groups. I know the current corporate "church" system is deceptive but I don't doubt that there are atleast a few solid believers in there somewhere and they are yearning for true fellowship. I believe it's our job as true believers of what the early church meant, to find the real people and link up with them. I believe in the sovereignty of God to still have the ability to use these ridiculous buildings and gatherings for ultimately a good outcome in the end... would that be sound thinking?
@@tbcreative562"Fellowship" is not the key reason for our existence and the Lord coming to die for us. Jesus barely mentions the word, if at all. We are here to OBEY Him and I do that better when I'm away from church goers. Churches have so much wrong. We all sin. Point isn't that we all sin and are imperfect. Point is being in God's Will.
I know what you are saying about the importance of going to church, and I go every Sunday. I have no deep relationships with any other Christians. A handshake or a greeting is the most you can hope for, so I have given up on them after over 10 years in the same church. I don’t even try anymore.
Not all churches are like that. It look me a lot of church visits to find the right one. I'm happy where I am right now. But know that no church it perfect.
I feel I go in we can't talk when ppl walk in . Get a pew nobody says anything I feel nothing envelope in basket mass ends everyone walks out priest hurries to get over the bye makes no time . I gave up turns his back locks the doors and he gone. And I should go to church. I looking for new church
It depends on what you mean by "feels". A church that makes you uncomfortable may very well be the church that you need to be at. I would refer to scripture and see if the church is actually operating in accordance with God's word. If it seems to be, then I would say it doesn't matter how it "feels" to you. Your discomfort about something may very well be the thing that needs working on.
joshua Zelay---I totally agree with BeachMaster Tim. Don't be deceived by what "feels" right. That's one of the easiest ways Satan uses to distract you from the truth. Always go back to the Word of God. If the doctrines of the church agree with what's in the Bible, then be assured. If you're not sure, schedule a meeting with the church leader to discuss your questions.
I don't know what church you been too but I have not experienced that sort of relationship in any church I been too. I can sincerely say I been ostracized and snubbed and I been drowned out and treated as a burden and when I opened up to say I need help or offered help been given issues. I am so sorry to say I haven't had great experiences at all with churches.
I haven't felt the Holy Spirit move through the church since I attended a small house church back in the 80's. When the Holy Spirit sweeps through your church, you will KNOW IT, people. I don't care who you are, where you come from or what you have done, you will know when the living waters go through your church. I have to ask.......Are churches really that dead in America that the Holy Spirit sweeping through the church seems to be a rare event nowadays?? We are so caught up in the cares of this world, with possessions, with other things that contend for our hearts.
It's because the pastor does his thing every week while the saints just sit and listen where as in a house meeting of the saints everyone participates and the Holy spirit can move because there is no pastor in the way.
man there are so many different churches im starting to get frustrated. i just got saved and dont understand all these different churches. which one is the right one.
So I read the blog. Do I just walk into a church and investigate the church through the lens of the seven questions? ask people questions listen to sermons?
The church is from the heart. Not four walls or buildings or temples. 1 Corinthians 3:16 King James Version (KJV) “Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?” Ephesians 3:17 King James Version (KJV) “That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,” 2 Corinthians 6:16 King James Version (KJV) “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” Acts 7:48-49 King James Version (KJV) “Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?” Acts 17:24-25 King James Version (KJV) God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;” Better? I am sure you will feel more confident!
I'm grateful for this exhortation. It has inspired me to do what I know is right to do for my own benefit. I've been visiting multiple assemblies without commitment. And I know I've gotta plug in. I thank God & I thank you brother. Keep sharing
I was invited to go to church back in 1985 where I learned a lot because I didn’t know anything about the Bible. I got saved several months later. Been going to church faithfully ever since. God has blessed us for our faithfulness to Him.
Im 24 and I grew up in a home church that was very legalistic in its teachings, I recently started going to a Church and all I can say is it is such a blessing to be with fellow belivers who encourage you and love you and want to help you in many ways. Ive only been going for about 6 months but its been amazing and I thank God for the healing that has come to me from this and also the many opportunities he has provided for me through the Church.
This just blessed me. Yes, I cannot stress the importance of church enough. It will make a major difference in your life in terms of developing a solid community around you. Keep it up!
Totally agree, it has already changed my life in soo many positive ways. You actually don't realize the state you are in until you are in a good church. Thanks for the awesome videos bro!
Church is the heart, not buildings or walls or temples (Acts 7:48-49; 17:24; 1Corinthians 3:16; Ephesians 3:17; 2 Corinthians 6:16; Revelation 21:3 KJV). BUT SPIRITUAL WORSHIP FROM THE HEART!!!
Jonathan Bock You’re partially correct. Just don’t leave out the verses about not forsaking the assembly of the Saints. What you’re talking about is the Universal church. There’s a universal church and a local church
I just hate going to church on Sunday where I go because though there is a good message and worship, people just want to apply it then leave. There's no one to talk to after the service
I have grown so much more in Christ after spending more time on Sundays alone with Him...like on the beach or in the park. His Spirit teaches me afresh and helped me to unlearn the many lies that come packaged with organized churchianity. I'm not looking for the perfect church...just a genuine one. I'm tired of the one-man, one-woman shows. The priesthood of ALL believers is hardly evident in our gatherings. A fact that no-one wants to talk about...
I am fighting the desire to leave my cute church. I don't always feel the connection or love. God has raised me in this church but some circumstances have caused a distance between myself and my church. I ask for the prayers of the righteous.
Hey Cory, crazy busy week so sorry for the delay. Man, leaving a church is like leaving a relationship. It is that hard for real. But know that every time I followed what I believed the Spirit was telling me with regards to transition I've always gained something better in return. I know He will lead you and let you know when and how it is time to move on. Keep me posted man.
Cory Jackson BELOVED IF YOU FEEL THAT GOD PUT YOU THERE ,THEN STAY UNLESS GOD TELLS YOU TO LEAVE. LEAN NOT TO YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING. JESUS DIDN'T LIKE BEING ON THE CROSS BUT HE STAYED UNTIL HIS WORK WAS DONE. HOWEVER NEVER LEAVE CHURCH COMPLETELY. IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU MUST GO,THE FIND ANOTHER CHURCH, BUT STAY IN FELLOWSHIP OR BE LEFT BEHIND AFTER THE RAPTURE. YOU MUST HAVE A SHEPHERD COVERING YOU. SEE HEBREWS 13 :17 SND HEBREWS 10:25. THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT ARE FOR THE CHURCH NOT YOUR HOMES. MANY PEOPLE WILL LOSE OUT TO GOD BY NOT ATTENDING CHURCH. THEY MAKE ALL KINDS OF EXCUSES TO JUSTIFY THEIR ACTIONS. HOWEVER THEY GO TO WORK WITH BOSSES THAT ARE EVIL AND COWORKERS THAT ARE EVIL. THE APOSTLES,PROPHETS, PASTORS, TEACHERS, EVANGELIST, MISSIONARIES, DEACONS, CHIOR, USHERS, ETC ARE IN THE CHURCH NOT THEIR HOMES. THEM THAT ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD ARE THE SONS OF GOD. PEOPLE GET SAVED IN THE CHURCH NOT THEIR HOMES. PEOPLE GET DELIVERED IN THE CHURCH NOT THEIR HOMES. GOD SAID THAT HE WOULD RAISE UP A SHEPHERD AFTER HIS OWN HEART. ANYONE THAT DOESN'T GO TO CHURCH ARE LIKE A SHEEP SCATTERED ON THE HILL WITHOUT A SHEPHERD .THE GOAT WOULD BUTT YOU.THE DOG WOULD BITE YOU.THE WOLF WOULD RIP YOU UP.
Leave! The Holy Spirit is trying to draw many out of this false "church" system. True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
Many are confused and think they should stay in these buildings because of all the FALSE TEACHERS out here today on youtube, facebook and in these buildings. The Holy Spirit is actually trying to draw the masses OUT of these false church buildings. True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
I agree. I attempted to address this issue in a recent video. I am hoping the clarity will help bring unity in the body of Christ. czcams.com/video/n6N6lEThuMk/video.html
Church is on my phone and i can learn more from it i believe. Thanks Allen for these great online bible lessons. I find i can watch a video or 2 during a quiet time of the day and reflect on what i have just learnt.
The Church and church organizations are not the same thing. I worked at a mega church as an administrative assistant and one of the main pastors told me the church was first and foremost a business. The created outside charities to meet the needs of the poor, but I got the impression it was more so the leadership didn’t have to deal with needy people. I faithfully attended and served in churches for more than 25 years, in almost every area of ministry. I gave until my body broke from exhaustion. When I got sick I had to quit my job and leave most of my ministry services. Then I was asked to leave the leadership of the one I chose to remain in, and treated as if I were a backslider. Eventually I left, mainly because I felt as if I were being shunned, but had no idea what sin I had committed. I tried two other churches, but being unable to serve in children’s ministry, I was not given opportunity to use talents I could do, I was expected to pay my dues in the children’s ministry. Don’t get me wrong, I love working with kids, but I physically couldn’t handle it and because of my illness I could not be as reliable as one needs to be for that area. I’m almost 60, and I get very fatigued. I love my God and Savior and have a personal relationship with Him. However, I’m not considered a sister in Christ unless I attend someone’s church. This makes no sense. I can guarantee there are many they consider brothers and sisters in Christ who just attend for the networking, or worse, because it’s an easy place full of trusting people to be able to do evil things. My point is, it’s getting very hard to find a church that teaches scripture and actually cares about people. It just feels like an exclusive social club. It didn’t used to, back in the 80-90s. It started to change around the mid 2000s. About the time of the Purpose Driven Life craze. That movement made everyone so busy trying to find their purpose they sort of forgot about relationship-especially that all important personal relationship with God. Also, Jesus as far as I know never worshipped on Sunday. Like you said, He never missed a Sabbath. Just saying….
Brother Allen thank you for sharing! I very much agree that it is vital we find our place in the body of Christ. I just want to offer a word of encouragement to fellow believers who are really struggling to find a place to gather with other believers and the truth is being taught and people are being transformed . As another brother stated, many are going into "church" one way and are walking out unchanged. I think what is so important for us to do right now is to make sure we are good stewards of the word of God. Study to show yourselves approved because deception and apostasy is on the rise. It's so sad and I know grieves Gods heart to see his people being led astray because we're not studying the word for ourselves. I'm so guilty of that and what happens is many believers depend on their pastors to only teach them rather than spending time in prayer and in the word and allowing the Holy Spirit to teach them. So PLEASE just make sure your reading your bibles and God tells us if we acknowledge him in all our ways , he will direct our paths. He will lead you to where he wants you. It could be a home group or place other believers in your path to fellowship with. Don't pray and worry! 😁
Amen. So many people come to church but don’t get involved with their talents, or they neglect church altogether. We need to give to the church so we can get from the church. As a PK I know from firsthand experience
And definitely talk to a church person that has offended you. Do not allow wounds to fester and turn into hate. I have witnessed this recently with my dad as pastor.
I can't get active involved in the congregation because I'm almost 69 and still working as a nanny. Wen I get home at 7 I'm exhausted. But I love to go to worship God and to hear the sermon. I do thing outside the church like spreading the gospel. And I visit a friend I. A nursery home and walk around say hi and let them know about Jesus. I have this unspeakable peace and joy in the middle of family problems and wat I see in the whole world. Put the armor and pray pray pray
sir. You totally took church out of context. we're the church. Jesus is coming back for his people not a building. this is the main reason why I don't go to church comma people preach what they have been taught and it a lot of time is wrong. I've had my most in life spiritual growth when I asked God to show me the truth in his word and I challenge what I've Been Told by other preachers. I've had preachers twist scriptures on me to get me to do what they wanted me to.
jermaine pearson you're not alone I'm under a lot of pressure right now trying to keep healthy relations with brethren who are fixated to what they were taught when they started.My salvation came quite differently,God met me at a sinner's table and changed my heart for months then I decided to try out church attendance and I honestly have no peace cause I feel forced to believe what they believe.Please pray for me cause God has also showed me in my dreams that it is not a good place for me.
@@lungilemtsweni4160 Dont always trust your "dreams" sent by God. We need to put everything to the test of Scripture. czcams.com/video/R20mCvTT8Wc/video.html
If a person stops going to the church because "people hurt them", or "they judge too much", or "they are hypocrites," is that person going to church because of God or the people? I am homebound and physically unable to leave my home. I wish I could go to church. If people in that church treat me bad, that's on them, not on me. I go to hear the Gospel, not for people.
I like this vlog and the reasons we should go. Church is not perfect place because we are there to learn and grow. We also get hurt outside of the church. The enemy of this world is everywhere in or out of the church.But in the church you have fellow believers as well, who are there to help and strengthen you.
One thing I would say, don’t just join a church just for the sake of joining a church. Be extremely selective and make sure you are seeking The Lord thy God before seeking something physical like a church. The Church is the Body of Christ not just a building to gather in. Make sure you know the word of God for yourself after spending quality time seeking God and building that relationship. This is were you will truly Grow, is on your own and away from the noise of the world. Yes, religion can be apart of the world too. Spend time building your relationship with God and it will keep you religion more wholesome. Not seeking religion first but always with Seeking God above all else. It will never be your time spent with others that grows you spiritually it will mostly be your time in isolation, privacy and in secret. The time we spend with others edifies for sure, no doubt about that. But if we as the Bride of Christ are not careful we can become lost sheep amongst wolves(Mathew 7). It’s very easy to yearn for company and turn to people for comfort but with out a solid relationship with God, that church, minister, ministry or group of people can become your god. You never want anything to take the place of God. Not people or church. Before you know it you have started to worship an idol, a false imitation of God. Breaking the most important commandment for all other commandments make no sense if we have missed the first one (Exodus 20). A church should be something that compliments our walk not be the necessity to our walk of Faith with God. Just as we should “want” to be in a relationship but not “need” to be in a relationship with another. If we are made complete already inside through Jesus Christ we shouldn’t lack or want for anything. So any church should compliment the already solid walk you are on. Knowing everything we need God will provide and already has provided with His Son. All we need to know is inside his Holy Scriptures. We don’t have to look so hard and search so long. It’s sitting one your book shelf somewhere. We are always so hungry as people seeking a Guru to be our god and some human with all the answers. None of us do! We need God, we need His Son, We need His Spirit. But, if you know God for yourself, know his word without a doubt by studying to show thyself approved (2nd Timothy 2) now you will be able to stand firm knowing truth and be able to tell the difference of lies versus the truth. Otherwise you are at risk to follow lies and perish for lack of knowledge(Hosea 4). So invest in what you do when you are all alone when no one is looking. This is what is the most meaningful to God from what The Scriptures show. Not how we behave when the world is watching but rather how we behave when alone and only The Lord is seeing us. It’s very easy to put on a Holy show when we are seen, but’s its the things we do in secret that are the most Sacred unto God. So if you’re looking for a church, make sure you know the Gospel and make sure that church also knows the Gospel. There are many churches that follow the devil and not God. So be careful and allow God to show you how to find a church. Don’t just pick one of your own accord. I am not saying to neglect the Body of Christ but the Body of Christ is not a physical structure rather it is a spiritual structure (Galatians 5). Look at Mathew 6 and see how Sacred Jesus speaks of the things we do unto the Father in secret and time alone. Read 1st Samuel as it talks about the Shepard Boy David that spent time in the wilderness tending to sheep by all alone by himself before being anointed by God through the prophet Samuel. Read Revelation 1 about John The Revelator how he was imprisoned on the island of Patmos, all alone and was revealed to him the visions by God to write while even in his solitude. Read in exodus 20 about Moses being alone with God in mount Sinai to receive the Commandments. Read in Mathew 26 Jesus Christ praying all alone because no one would stay awake to pray with him in the Garden of Gethsemane. So many instances of the men and women of God being alone and hearing his voice. His voice is a small still voice(1st Kings 19). For we are never alone when we have God. There is importance in being alone as there is importance in coming together to edify ourselves and edifying the Body of Christ. Just try not to limit who we are and our identity in Christ down to 4 walls. To be honest there is so much false Gospel out there you need to be careful. But if you are equipped with the Gospel you can now spread truth we’re there is heresy, win souls for Christ. It now becomes an opportunity and not a downfall. But if you go out into the World not equipped with the Armor of God(Ephesians 6) you will either become lost or ill equipped to help the Lost. True worship isn’t just singing at church. Music is a part of worship but true worship is how you live day to day before the Lord. So be very selective of who you entrust to teach you anything and make sure that The Lord God himself is your source for true knowledge. Not man. For man can lead you a stray for we are limited creatures. But Jesus Christ says it best: “But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.” Matthew 19:26 KJV Lastly, I would challenge you before seeking a church seek God first and let God guide you to a church. Spend sometime studying the 4 Gospels until it becomes ingrained in you. Listen or read it over and over with The Holy Ghost guiding you and asking God to reveal it to you as the scriptures say if we ask God anything believing we will receive (Mark 11). So ask God for wisdom and knowledge and you will receive it if you just believe and don’t doubt. You will know who Jesus Christ really is an an intimate way and you will see a clear image in your mind and heart of his ministry. If you find a church that lines up with his ministry you are blessed. Even if they aren’t perfect as You think it should be, it doesn’t matter as long as they are ministering the correct Gospel and truly doing Gods will. This is the most essential. We will all have our little differences on what we think church should be like but as long as the correct Gospel is being preached this is the most important as the Apostle Paul would say. So ask yourself. Do know the correct Gospel? May you discover The Lord in a deeper way and be guided to the truth by the Spirit of truth. 🙏🏽❤️✝️ “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.” Galatians 1:6-12 KJV “Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.” Hebrews 10:23-25 KJV
Wrong!!! Do not join yourself to ANY building called a church. None!!!! True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
reasy1978 I agree to some one that. We are the church. We still need to gather together some how though, don’t we? Be it inside or outside. Hast to be some type of assembly. “And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.” Hebrews 10:24-25 KJV Are you also saying that we need you specifically to have a true understanding the the Bible? Also wasn’t the use of the word “physical” clear that I wasn’t referring to a building? Did you actually read the post or did you just copy and paste this response?
I love Jesus I love God they’re always going to be in my heart everywhere I go I always think of them I will never forget them they’ve done so much for me in my good days and especially my back days I will never never lose faith.
True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
I dont go to church. I am the church. Church can be anywhere anytime... as long as there are two or three gathered in His name, you are fellowshipping. The "church" today thinks it's now become a building, seems more like a social club with little clicks within it, each little click doing their own thing...not really fellowshipping at all...not to mention most don't even use the 5 fold ministry to edify one another. Stop with the guilt tripping ( manipulation) and taking the bible out of context. Children learn about ethic and moral AT HOME, because OUR MINISTRY BEGINS AT HOME. GOING TO A BUIDLING TO GATHER IS COOL, AND CAN BE EDIFYING TO MOST... BUT NOT NESECARRY FOR SALVATION. I've learned and grown more in the last two years being at home and studying for myself and seeking God, then I learned in all the 29+ years going to "church"
A Church is not a building, it is the people who make the church. Anyone who tells you that you have to go to "a church" to be Christian are either misguided or they benefit from having sheep erm... I mean followers to fleece. The Church is not one of Earth, but the Heavens. We do not attend a physical building, we attend a spiritual one, a communion and covenant between Man and God is what Church really is.
As a person who grew out of organized religion, and adopted the "search for truth, not stupid fairy tales" mentality, i can tell you that after 7 years of critical cold thinking and looking at churchgoers as delusional weak cultist sheep, I have never been so depressed and in such a dark place in my life.. I am learning that I dont care if they are wrong and we are right.. I discovered that id rather be wrong and happy than be right and miserable. Im going back to church starting this weekend. It might be fairytales or it might not.. but the one thing I do know is that almost everybody goes to church with an open heart and with good thoughts in their mind and THAT Im sure is what creates a greater mind of spirit, love and harmony which rubs off on every single body inside the building... So, call it what you will.. I am going back to have that rub on me again, if nothing else.
Linda Sanderson why can't we do that on our own. why do we need a church to gather us together and study the word of God. is it the same if believers got together and studied scripture at a local park or in the comfort of their house?
Jonathan I myself have asked the same question. However, I was merely showing from the scriptures that the word of God says Christians should get together regularly, I guess it's kind of like having a support group, for encouragement, strengthening and building one another up. And since the 'church' is actually the body of believers rather than an actual building, it would not have to be in a building. Like you said, they could meet outside at a park, in individuals homes or wherever they could comfortably and peacefully gather to discuss God's word and fellowship with one another.
That verse actually means to sell what you have and give to the poor and live together as Christians in a Christian community preaching the Gospel. Luke 12:33-34 (KJV) "[33] Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. [34] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." Luke 14:33 (KJV) "So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple."
I find these verses in Hebrews encouraging. 'Church' as people say is the gathering of people. This can be a bible study or youth group or meeting on Sunday. However, I think it should be a meeting that is first and foremost about Christians meeting to encourage one another. Doing more of these types of meetings is better! PS We do not *need* to meet - we are saved by the grace of God. However, we will be more mature Christians by meeting with others who can encourage us and make us grow.
My LORD, please bless messages of truth such as this one and lovingly convict those who are living less than Your standards require us to. Father God, I know that wherever you are is where I want to be and if the church I attend does not completely share my beliefs or convictions, Father God I pray that I may be an inspiring factor in their lives. IN JESUS NAME, Amen.
One last thing I can't stand is when Churches pressure people to give %10 of their earnings. One pastor, at this megachurch I used to attend, went on about how he gave %10 percent pre-tax every payday as if to guilt us into doing likewise. If a pastor every tells you that, tell him that Uncle Sam already got your first %10. The church I attend know does NOT pressure people for money at all. And I really like that a lot.
Church is from the heart. 1 Corinthians 3:16 King James Version (KJV) “Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?” Ephesians 3:17 King James Version (KJV) “That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,” 2 Corinthians 6:16 King James Version (KJV) “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” Acts 7:48-49 King James Version (KJV) “Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?” Acts 17:24-25 King James Version (KJV) God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;” Paul made it very clear.
Wrong!!! True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
If you do not have a godly church 💒 in your area that follows word for word ...the wholesome words and the doctrines of our lord Jesus Christ ,stay at home and read your bible . If you remain in any church that doesn't follow the foot steps of Christ or pray etc ,you will be partaking in their sin.You can find true believers and fellowship with them outside churches💒If you pray God will lead you to true believers.You can know them by their fruits.🍉🍎 Most churches do not call Jesus Lord anymore!Be wise!
The Bible says to not neglect our meeting together. It doesn't say meet in a church building. Modern day church has been focused on the institutional aspects of a building. Church is where we take it. Not the building we attend. Yet , pastors are always preaching on community blah blah, but we need people who are hungry for God to take the church into the dark places too. Not just where we go on Sunday morning.... We've forgotten that in this day and age
I'm not a father, and I'm not in a relationship. So that won’t work on me. The churches in my area are run by certain cliques, and the testimonies of anyone, not belonging to the cliques, do not get heard. Then there are the big churches with the congregations that number in the hundreds! The testimonies you hear there, are the same testimonies you hear nearly every week. Next there's the church where somebody inevitably (usually the same people each week) starts speaking gibberish (meaning, they repeat the same sounds too often for it to be any kind of language), and somebody else ( usually the same people each week) interprets the gibberish almost exactly the same way each week! Doing it to the point that I can lip sync their response almost perfectly! I can appreciate your perspective, and if it works for you, that's great! But Jesus is the temple. He is the Church! Man, on the other hand, is a corrupt temple, a self abused temple, and that corrupts all earthly institutions. That doesn't mean that I don't search for a church that the Holy Spirit tells me is right, but I have yet to find such a church! Most churches teach false doctrines, and as soon as I hear one, I'm gone! One of those false doctrines is the one that leads people to believe that TRUE belief in Christ as Lord, Savior, and navigator of one's life is not enough! And unless they attend the right church, whichever denomination that is (almost all claim to be the ONE), they can't enter into heaven! That is Satan's doctrine! Mingle with a congregation of ten, and at least three will be his emissaries, whether they know it or not! Mingle with 100, and 30 will try to corrupt you, whether they even realize they're corrupting you! Your journey is not my journey! The things you need to learn, and overcome, are not the things that I need to learn and overcome! Hearing your testimony gives me perspective, which is why I'm a subscriber. Plus, when I disagree, I can give you a sermon in return! You can't do that in a church without offending the cliques! You can't, for instance, confront "Pastor" Joel "build a better you" Osteen, without offending all of those "have my cake and eat it too" followers of his! Nor can you debate a pastor, in his own church, if Antinomianism is his false message - because people actually WANT to believe that! They want to believe that belief in Christ is their "get out of jail free card"! I lived in Central Arkansas for a time, and this false doctrine is everywhere out there! People actually believed that they could carry on as they did as non-believers or unsaved sinners, simply because they asked Jesus Christ to come into their hearts! Sure some people who do that do get saved from that day forward! But the difference between the saved, and the unsaved "Born Again's" is obvious! Jesus is actually IN the hearts of the saved, guiding their conduct! He is completely absent in the hearts of the "Business As Usual" believers. If they were sincere when they asked Him into their hearts, rather than just covering their own necks, their lives would have changed dramatically! It wouldn't be business as usual. Satan's the "Embrace you Sin" guy, not Jesus! So if that's someone’s path, then they're going the wrong way! How many churches that teach Antinomianism do you think will listen to my rebuking testimony? I live on the U.S. west coast. How many liberal congregates do you think will respond lovingly to my rebuke of their irrational and hypocritical hatred of Donald Trump? So far, that number stands at zero! When I rebuke a congregation (only the guilty) for leaving a carton of milk in the meat department of their local supermarket, or for leaving their shopping cart in a parking space, rather than pushing it ten to 20 feet to the shopping cart caddie, how do you think they respond? They defend their sin! "The store employs people to clean up after me!" Do they? Do they really? That carton of milk has to be thrown away, because the store employees have no idea what happened to it between the dairy and meat departments! And when the parking lot gets full, and the only space that’s reasonably close to the store, is the one occupied by your discarded cart, who ends up moving it; the "store employee" or the driver of the car that's trying to park? And even if a store employee ended up collecting your cart, are we, as Christians, encouraged to increase the work burdens of others, just for our own convenience? Sorry brothers and sisters, that's just plain lazy and inconsiderate! And Jesus would NEVER do it, nor would he sign the release for you to do it! I do not agree with letting my fellow sinners CON themselves into believing that they can embrace Satan’s ways, and still be saved! We all need to be aware that sin, no matter how great or small we THINK it is, is not defined on a sliding scale! It is simply SIN! It is filth in the eyes of the one who is sinless! And you can’t have a little filth every now and then, and expect the one who is without sin, to say to you, on the day you leave this world: “Well done good and faithful servant.” As I asked one of my Arkansas friends, who believed God would say this to him: “So looking at the examples set by Jesus, and then by His Apostles, and disciples, what have YOU done to deserve God’s praise?” He certainly didn’t deserve any praise for the off-color words he had for me in response! As for you, I would advise that you do not make church attendance a matter of salvation! When you do that, you cause someone who is searching for the right church (Which is often motivated by the Holy Spirit) to compromise, and select the wrong church, one that might lead them to false doctrines! The right church will feel like the right church! That’s what I’m searching for. And that’s what MANY Christians, without a church, are searching for! Some of us may never find what we’re looking for, it is 2020 after all! But they certainly do not need someone fanning the flames of fear, over whether they should or should not attend some earthly church! If church will help them, then God will lead them. If it won’t help, then they don’t need someone telling them they’ll end up in hell if the don’t attend a church.
you are saying.all these nice things about church ...but the question is what is the church or WHO is the church ??? the church ..the church ..the church .....are u promoting peoplw to go to physical building or are you promoting to practice Christianity what the Bible tells to do outside of a building ....
Great question Glory! I would say both. We need to BE the church outside of the four walls. I would also encourage us to GO to church as well so that we can experience the community aspect that God desires for our lives.
So you are saying that in order for us to experience this community aspect..fellowship. ..is only inside the 4 walls of a building ...? What about 2 Christian people getting together to read the bible and pray ?..isn't that also experiencing community?
Servus Christi good question, he responded to ppl thanking him but won't answer the question. So it's not like he doesn't see it... This is quite telling.
@@glorygr6 Of course you can experience Christian community outside of church. Why does that mean we shouldn't make an effort to find a group of Christians we can fellowship with "inside a building with 4 walls"? It's hard to be a part of a a family when we aren't present to take part in the experience. One thing we should all keep in mind is that there are often people "we don't like" in our family. That may very well be some people that we meet at church. We need to be an example of Christ in the situations where we come across people we don't like and show them love regardless of how they treat us. We all feel like, "if someone looks at me cross when I go to church i'm not welcome and I should just leave and have "church" at my house all alone apart from my family". That's ridiculous, and it's something I've done in the past so I have grounds to speak on the matter. It is foolishness. I am too focused on man and not focused enough on the God I came to worship.
I attended and actively participated in church for a good 10+ yrs... The Lockdown started in March 2020, and I haven't been to church ever since, and the sad part is that I dnt even miss it. Its like I've decided I dnt want to attend church anymore. Im cold spirituality...actually dead, not cold
I stopped going to church because the pastor get rich and the congregation struggle,pastors are wearing expensive suits and driving expensive cars ,living in expensive houses and a church member might not be able to Heat their homes but they can’t get help from their church home.I went to a church once and the ministers body guard shoved me in my chest to keep me away from the pastor so I couldn’t speak to him . All of this goes on a lot in churches now ,so sad.
It's impossible to be a true child of God and not go to church. " As iron sharpens iron so one man sharpens another" it's selfish to not go and then make excuses. God knows your hearts and the real reasons why we go or don't go. I don't feel like going every week but I don't go by how I'm feeling that day. It's not an emotional decision, it's a life long choice, as long as his grace will take me. Think of this verse. " My grace is enough for you for my strength and made perfect in weaknesses" God doesn't give us more grace than we need nor does he give us too little. Like the pastor said in the video. God wants you to use your gift to glorify him. The church also needs talents and some of our resources that God has blessed us with. The pastor cannot pay all the bills on his own. My question is to people who makes excuses. Why will God gives us gifts that we will never use?
The main problem I recognize with your statement was already answered by Jesus. He said the temple will be destroyed and in 3 days (His Body) will raise it up. The church leaders and officals were stuck on a building and missed Christ totally, and actually begin plotting to kill Christ. Whether or not believers have a building or not, an ark, or any physical representation of Christ body; Believer's will use their gifts where Jesus intended us too. God will continue to pair the believer's He needs together, to accomplish His will. "Whether two or three gather, Jesus will be in the midst. Why would Jesus do this? To be salt (flavors) and light (illuminates) to the world (marketplace), Not to be buried under a basket (building).
Yes...I have been victimized by the fellow "human nature sinners" of each church that I have joined. I still "drag" myself to Sunday Mass regularly. The folks who I can trust are ones who are helping me to forgive. It is interesting that you mentioned the third commandment... We Christians tend to choose which commandments we will follow vs the ones that we will not!
Question: I know that church is important and I agree with following the lifestyle of the Messiah and his teachings. But how does one know which church is right? Supporting money hungry preachers? And when your spirituality starving? You can’t just support a church that’s dead and dying. I’m just asking these questions because I see to many people going to church and coming out the same way they went into it. I see to much carnal Christianity. I see to many folks being lead the wrong way. I see to many folks not knowing how to survive spiritual warfare. So how do folks understand the move of the Most High in these churches today and still be lost because of church’s? The message is true but folks need to be directed to the right kind of churches to support as well as grow spiritually the right way. To many folks going to hell from church now that should raise a red flag. One thing in this video the brother forgot to mention is when he mention Christ going to the church which in his day is called synagogues. And most of the time Christ went in there to preach and teach the people the right way aside of the wrong teachings of the priests. That’s why I pose these questions, yes church is important but getting to the right ones is even more important. We just can’t go around strengthening the hands of evil doers in churches. And one more important reason is we are taught in the Holy scriptures by the apostle Paul not to forget to assemble ourselves with one another. Church is to be like a hospital! It’s sad to see in these days no one is getting better!
The concept of ”GOING TO CHURCH” (period) is greatly misleading. The church of God is not a place, a building, or an event that can be attended. We ARE the church - the body of Christ. I attempted to address this issue in a recent video. I am hoping that CLARITY will help bring unity in the body of Christ. czcams.com/video/n6N6lEThuMk/video.html
I liked this video and the reasoning behind why one should go to church. I saw a sermon from RC Sproul recently in which he stated that if someone doesn't go to church, he'd question whether or not they are really saved. Realy?! The theif that was saved on the cross didn't attend church regularly I'm sure. I love going to church, but since I got married I find that its difficult to go due to my wife's disability.
I just want to go hear a sermon, sing, put some money in the plate and go home. I don't want to make small talk with anyone and pretend to like people I don't even know. I get the feeling a lot of other people there feel the same way towards people they really don't know. Another thing I Don't like is when the pastor is talking about church business or showing slides that have nothing to with God or his word during the time that is supposed to be devoted to God's word. I come there for one reason and that is to join with other believers to praise the Lord and get some word and go home.
True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
@@reasy1978 The people are the Church. A building is merely a sanctuary where we meet at. A location for God's people to fellowship together. Church IS necessary. Not the building, but the fellowship and the service. Christianity is not a personal religion. It's corporate.
I’m so glad you spoke on this cause I been trying to get people closer to God without rubbing them off wrong and. They usually don’t see eye to eye with it me I even sent them Hebrew 10:24 where it speaks of it and they tend to ignore it.
Eph 4:3-6: "Endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." ONE!! Do you see how sad the testimony of Christendom is? When are they divided by different names more than the name of Christ? Does it come to us that this is denying the testimony of the practice of "one body"?!No "Christian" denomination represents the name of Christ.
I'm very concerned about going to churches not teaching sound doctrine/ traditions of men, having these idols up in the sanctuary (Christmas trees/ Easter eggs), lies about offerings versus tithing, neglecting the unsaved, and money changing. How can I trust someone who leads in that way? Then when you show them (in the scripture) the error, they ostracize you and act as if you're the one who's crazy. Give up our Christmas tree excuse me: "Saturnalia" and "Sol Invictus" celebrations? Their excuses: "God knows my heart." "He'd never send me to hell over a Christmas tree". "Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft." I have trust issues. I sought God about this a lot. If he shows me a church that can be trusted, I will go. But I feel that if I'm sitting in a church that has an idol in the sanctuary, I am partaking in that sin. Just like those who sit under a false teacher like so many out there. Anyone have any advice for me getting past those roadblocks???🧐🤔😟
I feel everyone interprets the Bible so differently but at the end of the day... Church can help believers who are not so disciplined in reading the word and praying and who are still new to the words... it has definitely helped me with all my questions I have learned to study the Bible and I have also started counseling at a local church it has saved my marriage and I feel at home around others who believe it Jesus Christ. If you don’t find a church ur comfortable in pray about it. The Holy Spirit will guide you. Don’t go by what others tell you read it for yourself and pray for guidance and believe me God will answer...
Asking someone what church they go to is like asking what color is 3pm, or asking how blue tastes. They're nonsense questions. Notice how Paul never wrote to a building but to a group of people meeting in one.
I'm in no way judging? But a lot of people I've met a lot of believers that don't go to church just go around bashing the church,no matter how much you know about the word of God? There will always be someone more knowledged than you. That's why I feel it's essential to be involved in the church. So that we'll be held accountable and grow spiritually
I'm struggling with this because I want to attend a church that is not afraid to preach and teach about EVERY sin and repentance. I also want to be under a leader that believes and teaches on spiritual warfare. I can't grow in these feel good and entertainment type churches.
No Jesus did not got to church. What scripture says is He went into THEIR (meaning the Jews') synagogues TO REASON WITH THEM. It never says He went in them to worship. Read in correct context.
My grandparents on my mums side don't go to the church here in Grimsby and they're just fine Christians. Sure I'm an Atheist so I am not nearly as familiar with the Christian thought and that may not make me understand this situation that could be controversial but I have met a generous amount of my teachers that are loyal Christians and they don't go the Church.
Thank you for your comment Nicholas. I don't believe someone has to go to church to be a Christian. I just believe it helps us grow spiritually in many ways. I'm curious to know why you are an atheist. Care to share?
Thank you for the response and so I shall answer your question. I did careful consideration to make sure I got the details right so sorry for the wait. My path to Atheism likely happened more subconsciously as for I never really knew I was Atheist until I heard that word. I believe for a while I was actually holding Christian and Atheist beliefs at the same time for quite a while and I'm not sure why but I just thought they just fitted together. I don't why exactly I became Atheist but that is why it happened more subconsciously. I think I eventually realized that The Bible has parts of it that argue the theory of evolution and the Big Bang, so without knowing just made a decision as to which belief I would follow. I know parts of this may not make sense and may jump around but I really don't know how to explain the path I followed to my belief so sorry if parts of this don't go into the detail you wanted but this is how I explain it.
I'm going to admit first off that I am not a very good church attender. There are reasons for that, which I'm not going to get into at this point. However, one of your points was that only 20% of Americans attend church on a regular basis. There are several reasons for this. 1. Way too many Church attenders talk as if attending church services on Sunday is the point. They are incorrect in this. The point is Jesus Christ himself, and the true church is the body of all who have received Jesus Christ as their lord and savior whether they attended church or not. 2. The lack of love between people in any given Church. Many people make a good talk, but they don't walk the talk. They often neglect those that are hurting in the church and just let them slip away. We are told in the Bible that if we do not love we do not know God, for God is love. 3. The lack of love Christians have for those that go to other churches. When we look down on those that belong to other churches because of differences of opinion, we are again disobeying the law of love. I'm not talking about those who disavow the fundamentals of the faith. I'm talking about people who actually claim Jesus Christ as their lord and savior, but look down on other groups because they have a different understandings of some things. Example would be predestination versus free will. We would be much better off to accept that others have a different idea on some things but are still our Brothers and Sisters in Christ. 4. Judging people on insignificant or false details within any given Church. When I was first a believer in Christ I was regularly attending a church, when all of a sudden a couple came up to me and started lecturing me about smoking. Problem was I don't smoke and never did. But they were judging me, and I had no idea why. Turns out what the problem was is that my parents smoked heavily, and I was used to the smell. I did not know that the smell was on my clothing because of their smoking. The point was they were judging me falsely on something that God does not forbid, and for something that I wasn't even doing. 5. Very often mankind makes up rules and laws that God never intended. And then they judge people on these rules that they have made up. Now, I want to make it clear. I am not against attending church. However, these five things I brought up is what is making church attendance irrelevant to people. I am not saying this to judge people, it is something the Lord has put on my heart for several years now. The real reasons why people have found the church irrelevant, and the gospel is because we as Christians are forgetting that. Jesus is the point, and commands us to love each other.
“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.“ - Mathew 6:5 Mhh "Do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues." that basically means we should not go to church when we pray, but the church is basically all about praying, right?.
I haven’t been attending church lately I’d go but I’m scared that ppl there might bully me or ask me questions like why haven’t you been at church and I’m scared to tell them why
First of all I dont agree. Cause you can use your gifts that God gave you on the highways and byways primarily I have used what God has given me in the streets in 2 states so....Secondly,I dont think it was correct for you state God will ask you how did you use your talents just because you did not use them in the building call church.
Hello Shadae, thank you for your reply. I didn't mean to suggest that the church was the only place to use your gifts. Heck, if I believed that then I would not have started this CZcams channel right? The vision for this channel was to go global and reach people worldwide, not just the church. So, we are in agreement there. However, we will give an account for how we used our gifts and talents whether inside or outside the church. Many people use the excuse and say, "I don't have to go to church to use my gifts." That's true. But my question to them is, "Do you use your gifts outside the church?" Many people don't. Thoughts?
@@thebeatagp you are the one misleading people. NOWHERE does scripture say true believers must attend temple services. Thats NOT true worship. Scripture CLEARLY says more than once that GOD DOES NOT DWELL IN TEMPLES MADE WITH HANDS. Also, Jesus Himself put an end to the brick and mortar temple system. Nobody authorized man to rebuild it but Satan. So you really need to do some studying via THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Yes its says honor the sabbath. Even my bible study says it does mean going to church if you refuse. Take one hour weekly alone by a quiet place talk to him bring your bible . Your still making private time with God doesnt mean you have to go to a building 😊
I've read many, many of the comments posted here and it is sad to hear of unsuccessful efforts to find a church organization/congregation worth attending. I've had many of those experiences myself. However, I encourage every true believing Christian to keep looking and not give up. True Christian churches DO exist. It took me many years and I've finally found a "church" that believes the Bible is inerrant and infallible, every word, and teaches EVERY WORD no matter now uncomfortable or controversial. I've finally found the first place that the term "church home" is actually true for me. Please don't stop searching. If and when you finally find that rare TRUE church, I believe you will agree with me that it was worth the effort.
Cole The VII I feel I can answer. Very few churches gather on the actual Sabbath day, honestly I think Catholics are the only ones who do. As they hold services daily. But Easter is considered the Lord's day because of his resurrection. Gathering Sunday and recognizing that as the Sabbath I believe is ok. God made the Sabbath day for us. A day set aside to rest...... so long as it is kept holy I don't see harm in it...... besides the way we in the western world are we begin our weeks on Monday anyway so Sunday would actually be our Sabbath....... pray for clarification as God reveals all😉
Way off here Jo Mo. Jesus was NOT resurrected on Sunday or Easter for that matter. It would appear that he was raised on the day AFTER Unleavened Bread which would be the 16th AND also the first day of the week since Sabbath (weekly AND the first day of Unleavened Bread) fell on the 15th and this particular Sabbath was a "high day" because it was both the weekly Sabbath AND the first day of Unleavened Bread. There was not even such a thing as "Sunday" in Jesus's day and it was an 8 day week for the Romans with the names of the days of the week as letters A-H on the FIRST Julian calendar. (not the second one that changed to 7 days still with letters A-G then) Obviously today we are n the Gregorian calendar. Jews kept their Sabbaths (which are called "Moedim" which means "appointed days") by the cycle of the moon, NOT the sun. So if we are being technical and I am, the Moedim (appointed times like Sabbath and festival days) according to scripture should be calculated by the Soli-lunar calendar which starts every month with a new moon. The moon guides the setting of the months and the sun guiding what constitutes a day as in "sunrise to sunset". But the MOON appoints the days of the month. Every month starts with a "new moon" (chodesh) See the literal Hebrew words in Psalm 104:19. You will see I am being honest. This means they were not on a continuous cycle of a Sabbath every seven days like they are today because the moon has a 29.5 day cycle. So there was a new moon at the first day, then 7 days later on the 8th a Sabbath, then the 15th, the 22nd, the 29th and then 0-1 day until new moon then you start all over with the 8th, 15th, 22nd, 29th etc. Every other month were 29 and 30 days. Occasionally an extra month was added and this is evident in Ezekiel 4 and 8 from the time Ezekiel lays on his side for the full 430 days for both the house of Judah and the house of Israel until the time he is sitting in his house after he is done includes the extra month that year. Jews changed their Sabbath to Saturday and again-Jews could NOT be keeping their Sabbath on "Saturday" in Jesus's day because there was no such thing as "Saturday". Jews counted time as "First day of the Sabbath, second day of the Sabbath, third day of the Sabbath" and so forth until they got to the actual Sabbath day. They changed their Sabbath to Saturday to be more compliant with the world pagan calendar system. True fact. This isn't something I learned at church, this is something I spent weeks studying out in scripture about the new moons and the Sabbaths then I looked at history to see when and how it changed. There are three kinds of days in scripture: New moon days, work days and Sabbaths-all different. Sadly, we live in a pagan world with a pagan reckoning of time. This is why Daniel said that the king to come would think to change the times and laws of God. (Daniel 7:25) this prophesy has already happened. God created time when he made the sun and moon. (Genesis 1:14) God operates completely outside of our worldly system and only those who have the Spirit and seek truth will see these things as they STUDY (not just read) the Bible line upon line and precept upon precept rightly dividing the word of God and studying to show thyself approved. Now, if we WANT to meet everyday of the week-fantastic! That's what the early believers in Messiah did BY CHOICE. But it is not required according to God's law. What IS required is rest on the True Sabbath AND honoring GOD'S Sabbaths and the festival days which are special Sabbaths called "high Sabbaths" where some do require rest while others call for celebration and meeting with the congregation of other believers. There is one exception of a Sabbath that does not fall on one of the regular weekly Sabbaths and that is the Day of Atonement which is on the 10th which is not a weekly Sabbath therefore it is not considered a "high day" or high Sabbath. But don't just take my word for these things, by all means study them out. We are told to TEST EVERYTHING. If you are able to see this in scripture, it will not be well received because people in powerful positions in ANY Denomination have their minds set on their own church doctrine and do not like being told the truth of Scripture when it contradicts their dogma. I go to church. Mostly I keep these truths to myself or blog about them. If people are not ready and prepared by the Spirit to hear the truth it doesn't do much good to tell them. These are not necessarily salvation issues, so there is no need to beat people over the head with it, but you said Sunday was a Sabbath and Easter was a special day and I could not let that go unchecked.
Church is where the followers of Christ gather to fellowship ,to exhort, to rebuke and to keep reminding ourselves to live n endure sound doctrine as we wait for our Lord's return.
While many of you are right about the church not being somewhere you go to but the people, you are wrong to cast judgement of weather or not he is for the Lord. In today's world it is common for Anyone to call church a building. Only the Lord knows our heart and he judges it. We are the bride as the members of the body of Christ. All of us on this earth are his children and have been saved by his sacrifice. So, none of us are worthy of his grace. Yet he loves us so much that he gives it to us anyway. And he wants us to live each other just as he has loved us. So instead of casting stones, remember that you are guilty of sin yourself. Simply explain that the church are the members of the body of Christ and the Lord's day is on the Sabbath which is Saturday not Sunday.
Verna Manning thank you for your reply. The thing we have to remember about when Jesus was alive on earth is that that time period was before he went to the cross. That means that everyone and everything was still under the old law, the old covenant, the old testament. Things changed after the cross. And one of the things that changed was that there was no special day where people had to attend the assembly. As Paul says, every day is alike. However, I want to be clear, there is nothing wrong with continuing to observe the Sabbath today.
Is the Sabbath day not apart of the law? The law that Jesus abolished when he sacrificed his life.. didn’t Paul tell us in Galatians that if we do one part of the law we must do them all and we Have fallen from grace... “For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.” Galatians 5:3-4
he's confusing the meaning of church when he says in church or church is a place. church is not a building 4 walls real church is group Jesus followers built together as one body (family) - discipled and lead by the Spirit aka Jesus look back at Jesus and his desiples (body in Christ) He took his church everywere wilderness, flee markets, and towns where there will be challenges through Faith so his desiples get to know Jesus more in there relationship that He is God and He is salvation but in our American culture churches most percent have given up Faith in Jesus and been lead by mens works and became followers of men(religious/secular) men have turn church into a box keep you bussy they out there cuz worried you get dirty (like the pharisees thought) theater lip service entertainment the performers and audience come to speak/hear the truth/the gospel but most don't have the passions or character to want to live out the Gospel while a few do. open your bible and read Jude it will speek more be a living active church be a salt in light salt doesn't stay gathered up in a jar then there wouldn't be an experience of the flavor why gather more candles box better to spread them out cuz less space more heat (out of control, pride and jealousy) can cause fire. take light where it needs to shine to the dark.
Just because church is not a building does nof mean you can’t meet the church at the building you gotta meet them somewhere and building happens to be the place to meet them. Scripture is meant to guide us not manipulate it to suit our laziness
Never again. Did it for 15 years. DID the babysitter, banquets.I am single and they thought I had time. Never mind I was a single mom and no one ever helped me.Plus I was an RN and had to work different shifts. And I was sick of seeing 💑 and I am struggle alone.
As a recovering right wing ideologue, I have experienced nothing but contempt and hate from the the majority of the tax exempt buildings and those who attend and Minister there. I'm referring to those who have the word church on a sign out front. So I turned to youtube. I've been reading the Bible daily. I've been studying the Christian church as much as possible. I've been praying to God through Jesus Christ daily. I'm going to be honest. Jordan Peterson was the one who got me started and here I am I was baptized I repent and I accept Jesus as my savior. Brothers and Sisters in Christ please pray for each other. Be patient be kind be factual ground yourself in truth. Because something I've learned is you can't discuss anything with someone you hate or find disgusting. I love this channel. I love you all too take care
We are the Church ("Assembly" or the Gathering of Believers) not the building. Galatians 1:13. What we have lost is not the attending of buildings but the body life (the mutual care, serving, fellowship, hospitality, encouragement) throughout the week.
I don’t have a problem with church, I just don’t connect very well with the service and fellowship. The people are very welcoming and friendly but it just didn’t workout for me. When I’m away from church, I do feel more connected with God and I even learn something new each day and I’m cutting down on things I shouldn’t be doing on my own without even realizing it. It feels like a process as God is working on me and I don’t realize it which is a good thing. It’s what I been telling my friends all along, allow it to happen on its own and don’t force yourself to do something you are not ready for.
Wrong! True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
I only watched this because I have a somewhat unique situation and have been fighting myself on what to do. I work in a church but because I work on Sundays, I don't get to attend service regularly (usually once a month). I wasn't sure if it was wrong as I always hear people say we should physically go into service, not just settle for watching it online.
If you are carrying a burden pray directly to god though his Son Jesus,why to other people or church member? who is powerful and a healer? those church member or god himself? I dont go to church but I talk to god everyday and he answered all my prayers.
Yes church is the people. Yes church is also a building. Can we move on people and stop squabbling over the little things like what exactly a word means? Philippians 2:14. Read it.
Nah, I'm done with church. I have given everything to the kingdom only to get backlashed and rejected and majorly unappreciated. I'm not looking for what I can get. I just want to get out of there. Good luck the the believers who are still trying. May God bless your journey
2 is better than 1 Paul said keep meeting up Jesus said if 2 ask for anything in my name it will be done by my father in heaven . Don't let satan play you find a meeting place suitable for you All Paul also said the body needs all its parts All praises to the most high God Amen
We can gather in the park, underwater, in a cave and in the forest. We will still be church of Christ. We are a church because we help one another, and we worship God together. We are to support one another not to attend for show!
Most of us are guilty of seeing in the Bible only what we want to see, whether or not we want to own up to that fact. That said, what do we do with verses such as Hebrews 10:25, which tells us not to forsake assembling ourselves together, as some do. Also 1Timothy 3:15 which tells us what the pillar and ground of the truth is. Also, what about Matthew 16:18, what does Jesus say he will do in that verse. I believe that the teachings Jesus gave his apostles, they in turn taught, and passed those teachings on through faithful men they chose as their successors, aka bishops, who were to faithfully pass those teachings generation by generation throughout time, to the present day! Notice please, I said bishops, not just one bishop in one particular city. I believe God uses the various denominations, to draw us to Himself, but I think He means for us to find that faith which was once delivered to the saints.
I left my old church cause of gossip and judging. It seemed like they only expect perfect people there. Now I'm in an amazing church that tells it like it is, everyone is welcome, and they preach the whole word and not just what people want to hear. And so many times the sermon was exactly what I needed to hear. That's another important reason for attending church.
That's awesome John. Yes, sometimes it takes a few attempts to get to a church that you feel comfortable at. I can definitely attest to that. Glad you found a good one!
THE BEAT by Allen Parr Sooo, will I go to hell if I don't visit churches?
THE BEAT by Allen Parr Answer immedietly.
Tad Walker I strongly recommend that you find a home church so that you can learn more about christ and grow as a Christian. also it's a way of worship and setting aside time for Him and fellowship with other believers. Now that said that doesn't mean you'll go to hell because you're not involved in a church but church is something you should make time for. Be blessed
John Lauland Thank you.
We are the Church.
WHO IZ DEE CHUCH?!!
Bingo! :D
Amen!!!The true church is the body of believers who have put their faith in Jesus Christ so that they may be as he is when he appears to the glory of God the father who made this possible for us all through his love and forgiveness of sin.
@@belinda4249 but God told us to keep the sabath
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Perversion has entered the church and they use the scriptures the wrong way like the Pharisees.The pharisees used the sabbath and other God's laws to entrap people to glorify their own flesh and not in our Father.Jesus said in the book of John that the true person sent by God would not do his own will but the will of God the Father .We need to be alert.If you get a good church where the word of God is followed even by the Pastors and the leaders then we can go there on the sabbath or any other time.
When some churches start breaking the very principles of the bible paid with blood by Christ and over 50 million saints , they have opened the door for people to do what's best for them to get do God's will the right way.
You are not in church to "get", but to give!
"The church needs YOU!" AWESOME!!! 🙏
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WE are the church We need to stop looking at the church like a location or a building
Thank you!
@@reasy1978 www.crossway.org/articles/12-principles-for-disagreeing-with-other-christians/ everyone should know this
I agree. I haven't been going to church consistently in a long time but I desire to find one that God has for me to attend. I have been discouraged buy some of the things that go on in church. But I pray to find the one that God has for me to be a part of. Pray for me also
I understand. It's easy to get discouraged. There are great churches out there. I encourage you to continue your search. Remember, the church is the bride of Christ. We can't say that we don't care for the church.
I occasionally attend a nondenominational church, but I am very uncomfortable with their charismatic leanings.
True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
@@thebeatagp no its not. NONE of these buildings called churches belong to Christ. NONE.
what do you mean by charismatic leanings ?
I have not been in a church building for 5 years now. I am part of the Body of Christ. The Body of Christ is the Bride of Christ, not the church building. Not everyone who attends a church building is a child of God.
How do you pay your tithes if you dont attend 🤔
Sumi Garcia Someone needs to set up a GoFundGod account as a means to tithe for people who can’t make it to church.
I agree. I attempted to address this issue in a recent video. I am hoping the clarity will help bring unity in the body of Christ.
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Is that out of not having a right church to go to, or simply worldly laziness and selfishness?
My pastor once asked the same question: Can a Christian who doesn't go to church, still get into Heaven/be a Christ-follower?
Basically, the answer boiled down to yes, they can, but a true Christian will desire whole-heartedly to attend a church service. We are the Church yes, but we need an organized event at least once a week to collectively worship God as a body.
'Christians' who don't desire church, can't call themselves Christian.
I feel rejected at church. I feel alone. Feel like when people say they are hear for you they are really not.
Some People who are leaders or involved in the church will help their church members before they help their own family. They will visit them in hospita,l nursing homes, go to their graduation celebrations,even cook them a meal. However, their own 5 grandchildren they never attended any of their 4 graduations, prom events I had a accident I begged my mom to please come and cook something or could she bring something for me to eat I was told no. I was in pain. when I graduated from high school and college. No parents or siblings came. I'm the adopted child so zi dont matter
Same. Yet my parents tell me I shouldn't go to church for the people but for God. I can always talk tp God anywhere. I don't need to go to a building and try to fit in when I obviously don't.
You are not alone. I could stop going now and no one would even call to find out why haven't been going. I could pass away and no one at the church would know. I could end up in the hospital and no one there would know. If it were not for my kids, I probably wouldn't be going. I just want them to learn about our Lord and God's word while they are young.
People. Yes the devil is in the church. He's in every church no matter which church u go to. But u got to find the church that's right 4 u. An focus on jesus. Not what wrong with that church. I did and I'm a happy Christian. Praise GOD
I've been in that situation for three years now, it's been tough but I've learned a lot about God. Don't force yourself to fit in anywhere if it means failing God (I mean if the only way they'd accept you is by gossiping or being fake or whatever). If you want to deepen your relationship with him and you feel that your church is not adding to your growth, the holy spirit is not among the people there. When he guides you, you don't reject people who want to learn more about God. So you're not missing anything really. But always pray and ask God to put you where he wants you before you decide to leave or join a new church.
We keep on saying we are the church so I don't need to go to a church building. It is true that church is the body of believers but we should keep in mind that I am not or you are not the whole body of Christ. Each of us are only a part of the body of Christ. We need to gather together to learn from each other and encourage each other not just go and gather to fill your church building. Christianity involves us with other people.
josiah nissi exactly
Preach!
That's Exactly why believers should stay Away from church buildings.
Amen
The Church is the body of Christians! Not a building! Do not lead these people astray. Church does not save you, only the blood of Jesus and the guidance of His Holy Spirit can we be saved. Better is it to be an obedient servant to Christ and show love to your enemies than to go to a building and pay money to a man every Sunday and hear him read verses that one themselves can read in the Bible. Church should be for Holy Communion & worship. That is all.
BlueFlarePictures did you even watch the video? Not going to church is blatant disobedience to God/the word. Your comment is the one leading others astray here. As we've revised, the church is about so much more than you claimed. Also clearly he never said the church saves smh... God bless
BlueFlarePictures it's a shame ppl blur the body and the building together. If "church" was more like the church of Acts, I'd understand.
BlueFlarePictures my parents go and they criticise the preacher you're not saved just by going to a place it is your actions that matter on person can go and kill someone the next day so there is no point in going to church
Jesus says we are guilty as murders if we even hate someone. We all hate at times so it is not the act so much as the proceeding thought. The holy spirit told us not to forsake the gathering together of believers. It doesn't matter where you gather as long as you gather 2 worship pray etc.
piedpiper22 at the end of the day, we are all human. We come from sin. We will never be perfect, but all we can do is be better then we were yesterday. I dont go to church. It's not because im a nonbeliever but its because its filled with a bunch of drama. At least from my experience. People constantly criticising and judging you. I never feel welcomed.
i understand your prospective brother but scripture says.. God doesn't dwell in temples made by hand..im not telling one not to go to a church but we as believers are the church..I have a question, how many more sermons, teachings, seminars and workshops would we need until we actually started preaching the gospel outside of the church building?saving the lost also to the homeless, the poor the needy and the fatherless? remember something brothers and sisters there were many people who heard the gospel once... just a thought
Agree, we need to BE the church not just GO to church. Well said...
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I have a question on wich day should I go to church on saturday or on sunday ?
is going to church your sabbath rest
im trying too find a good church.
But the churches today are not doing any thing today?.. with the 501c3 attach to their agreement to receive those Taxes since they started in the 60's if I'm not mistaken? they can't teach the old testament, or get into politics when their leader's of the people are leading us astray?.. their are so many do's and don't in that agreement that their under that 501c3 the churches again are under that agreement go read it? and its run by illumi today? so what are you saying for us to go back to those churches today? I'm totally scared today so I study and read and listen to prophets and teachers on the internet today? come from among them so I don't be partakers of their sins? also The Almighty Power!! do not dwell in Unclean temples? or Temples made by mans hands! The commandments also suppose to done away with, well if that's the case we don't need the bible any longer then,. do what you feel is right?? Remember they had commandment is heaven!.. before he sent the angels that broke them??Response please?
Joana Elysee /READ COL.2:14-17 AND ROMANS CHAPTER 14. DONT GET CAUGHT UP ON THE SABBATH DAY. SABBATH MEANS REST . CHRIST IS OUR SABBATH. YOU CAN WORSHIP ANYDAY.
Maurice Lindsey I agree
The Holy Spirit does just as good a job reaching me through the Word, my prayer life, and religious media. If church is what is best for me, i trust God will point me towards the right one.
He pointed you towards it seeing as it’s written in the Bible
Exactly. That's the way it should be.
I agree, that’s the holy spirt job anyway, we’re only instruments used by Christ to speak his word and be the light of this world. God’s the only one who can save someone through the fire.
Plus we’re all suppose to preach the good news about Christ, church is just one way his word can be spoken, but we’re supposed to be fishers of men and most of the time we must go out and reach out to the lost souls that’s outside those four walls.
sadly the most I've learned about Christ has come from me getting alone with Holy Spirit and having him teach me reading and worshipping on my own and also going online to search out other teachers.
the Bible says to not forsake the assembling of ourselves together that meansvforbus to not go totally lone ranger in our walk but still there are other believers who gave for s time isolated themselves from a church body in order to get deeper more intimate relations
Mark. Find a good church. U cant teach yourself.
@@bobbyanderson8647 no one teaches themselves, nor becoming baby in pastors lap will teach you. Go to the Holy Spirit He's the Almighty Teacher
@@missmystery4525 u cant jus go to the Holy spirit. U got to be saved to have the spirit in you
@@bobbyanderson8647 That's right, if you're really a born again you go to the Holy Spirit. Churches don't teach nor save no one
@@missmystery4525 it's TRUE that churches dont save people. But a good church with a good pastor and Sunday school teacher can teach you some things. God put them here 4 a reason. THE GOOD ONES
The Church(believers) are the Body of Christ or the Bride of Christ. It's not a building. NOWHERE in the Bible does it say that a believer must attend a building in order to worship God or fellowship with other believers. You can worship or fellowship just about anywhere. God says He doesn't dwell in buildings made by hands (Acts 7:48-49; 17:24). God dwells in the heart of His children (1Corinthians 3:16; Ephesians 3:17; 2 Corinthians 6:16; Revelation 21:3).
Question: What literal building on this Earth can contain Almighty God? NONE!
If a believer wants to join himself/herself to a building called church, then that's their choice. But to say that a believer must join a congregation is not biblical.
Amen
Thank you so much for saying that
Then if that is the choice a specific Christian is making, to not attend a “building”, I pose a follow up question. What instead are they doing to actively grow alongside other Christians in Christ? Because that IS Biblical.
To live along side, fellowship, and worship with other Christians. We weren’t called to stand alone in our praise and worship and learning.
So if you aren’t “going to Church”
where are you getting that source? Are you active in a home small group? A weekly in house worship session? A Christian community group? There has to be something.
You alone are not the church. You can’t be.
But you AND I?? We are. Together. So stand with me brother, and we can love and praise Him together. We can reach others together.
And you know where the most CONVENIENT place for people to do that is? ..... at a church building.
I agree. I attempted to address this issue in a recent video. I am hoping the clarity will help bring unity in the body of Christ.
czcams.com/video/n6N6lEThuMk/video.html
He didn't ask must we go to church. He said do we need to go to church
So many people just do not understand this and it breaks my heart I love being amongst the saints no matter how jacked up we are .. we are all apart of the body and need each other
I haven't found a good church yet. Still looking. It's nice to fellowship at a church, but we need the whole Word preached to us and true acts of service being offered to the less fortunate. It's not all about socialization.
We Don't need the institutional church.
We need what GOD'S HOLY WORD SAYS we need.
We, meaning Western Christianity, do not understand what the word "church" actually means. We always want to place a pivotal meaning on the building or organization and that is not what it is. This video sounds good to the unlearned, but it is not biblically based. Church is the body of Christ both local and worldwide and it is not connected with a building or organization such as denominations. Read Paul's epistles, especially Ephesians for more information on this subject.
I am a VERY new creation in Christ and even I understand this concept.
It's quite concerning that many professing Christians today that have been around for much longer than me are sleepy when it comes to this topic...they simply don't want to hear it, or they just ignore many key verses...
I'm confused about this however, because I know that the church has nothing to do with the building, even the concept of pastors/rabbis/preists etc was abolished by Jesus.
but I still try to attend these gatherings in the hopes that I can fellowship with true believers, and we can splinter off into smaller more dedicated groups.
I know the current corporate "church" system is deceptive but I don't doubt that there are atleast a few solid believers in there somewhere and they are yearning for true fellowship. I believe it's our job as true believers of what the early church meant, to find the real people and link up with them.
I believe in the sovereignty of God to still have the ability to use these ridiculous buildings and gatherings for ultimately a good outcome in the end...
would that be sound thinking?
@@tbcreative562"Fellowship" is not the key reason for our existence and the Lord coming to die for us.
Jesus barely mentions the word, if at all.
We are here to OBEY Him and I do that better when I'm away from church goers.
Churches have so much wrong.
We all sin.
Point isn't that we all sin and are imperfect.
Point is being in God's Will.
I'm an introvert. I believe you can live without church, but not with out God.
I know what you are saying about the importance of going to church, and I go every Sunday. I have no deep relationships with any other Christians. A handshake or a greeting is the most you can hope for, so I have given up on them after over 10 years in the same church. I don’t even try anymore.
Not all churches are like that. It look me a lot of church visits to find the right one. I'm happy where I am right now. But know that no church it perfect.
I feel I go in we can't talk when ppl walk in . Get a pew nobody says anything I feel nothing envelope in basket mass ends everyone walks out priest hurries to get over the bye makes no time . I gave up turns his back locks the doors and he gone. And I should go to church. I looking for new church
What if I haven't found a church that feels right???
Joshua Zelaya keep searching like I am.
Joshua Zelaya then your mind is working religion is garbage
It depends on what you mean by "feels". A church that makes you uncomfortable may very well be the church that you need to be at. I would refer to scripture and see if the church is actually operating in accordance with God's word. If it seems to be, then I would say it doesn't matter how it "feels" to you. Your discomfort about something may very well be the thing that needs working on.
joshua Zelay---I totally agree with BeachMaster Tim. Don't be deceived by what "feels" right. That's one of the easiest ways Satan uses to distract you from the truth. Always go back to the Word of God. If the doctrines of the church agree with what's in the Bible, then be assured. If you're not sure, schedule a meeting with the church leader to discuss your questions.
Joshua Zelaya Pray!
I don't know what church you been too but I have not experienced that sort of relationship in any church I been too. I can sincerely say I been ostracized and snubbed and I been drowned out and treated as a burden and when I opened up to say I need help or offered help been given issues. I am so sorry to say I haven't had great experiences at all with churches.
People be making up excuses, church is a valuable aspect for Christians, ain’t no way around it!
I haven't felt the Holy Spirit move through the church since I attended a small house church back in the 80's. When the Holy Spirit sweeps through your church, you will KNOW IT, people. I don't care who you are, where you come from or what you have done, you will know when the living waters go through your church. I have to ask.......Are churches really that dead in America that the Holy Spirit sweeping through the church seems to be a rare event nowadays?? We are so caught up in the cares of this world, with possessions, with other things that contend for our hearts.
It's because the pastor does his thing every week while the saints just sit and listen where as in a house meeting of the saints everyone participates and the Holy spirit can move because there is no pastor in the way.
man there are so many different churches im starting to get frustrated. i just got saved and dont understand all these different churches. which one is the right one.
Hey buddy, let me know if you find this blog I wrote a while back helpful. Thanks,
www.allenparr.com/blog/how-to-choose-a-church/
So I read the blog. Do I just walk into a church and investigate the church through the lens of the seven questions? ask people questions listen to sermons?
johnetan pitaluga You listen to what is taught to make sure it is Biblical. Also, let the Holy Spirit guide you
The church is from the heart. Not four walls or buildings or temples.
1 Corinthians 3:16 King James Version (KJV)
“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
Ephesians 3:17 King James Version (KJV)
“That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,”
2 Corinthians 6:16
King James Version (KJV)
“And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.”
Acts 7:48-49 King James Version (KJV)
“Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?”
Acts 17:24-25 King James Version (KJV)
God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;”
Better? I am sure you will feel more confident!
Brother their corrupt.seek the Lord Jesus Christ,it will be opened to you if you seek until you find no matter what
I'm grateful for this exhortation. It has inspired me to do what I know is right to do for my own benefit. I've been visiting multiple assemblies without commitment. And I know I've gotta plug in.
I thank God & I thank you brother.
Keep sharing
I was invited to go to church back in 1985 where I learned a lot because I didn’t know anything about the Bible. I got saved several months later. Been going to church faithfully ever since. God has blessed us for our faithfulness to Him.
Im 24 and I grew up in a home church that was very legalistic in its teachings, I recently started going to a Church and all I can say is it is such a blessing to be with fellow belivers who encourage you and love you and want to help you in many ways. Ive only been going for about 6 months but its been amazing and I thank God for the healing that has come to me from this and also the many opportunities he has provided for me through the Church.
This just blessed me. Yes, I cannot stress the importance of church enough. It will make a major difference in your life in terms of developing a solid community around you. Keep it up!
Totally agree, it has already changed my life in soo many positive ways. You actually don't realize the state you are in until you are in a good church. Thanks for the awesome videos bro!
Discerner Amen. A good church changes everything
Church is the heart, not buildings or walls or temples (Acts 7:48-49; 17:24; 1Corinthians 3:16; Ephesians 3:17; 2 Corinthians 6:16; Revelation 21:3 KJV). BUT SPIRITUAL WORSHIP FROM THE HEART!!!
Jonathan Bock You’re partially correct. Just don’t leave out the verses about not forsaking the assembly of the Saints. What you’re talking about is the Universal church. There’s a universal church and a local church
Thank you so much for this strong word!!! Showing this to my students later today.
Wow! Thank you so much Thesullys! I appreciate you sharing this ministry with others. God bless,
I just hate going to church on Sunday where I go because though there is a good message and worship, people just want to apply it then leave. There's no one to talk to after the service
I have grown so much more in Christ after spending more time on Sundays alone with Him...like on the beach or in the park. His Spirit teaches me afresh and helped me to unlearn the many lies that come packaged with organized churchianity. I'm not looking for the perfect church...just a genuine one. I'm tired of the one-man, one-woman shows. The priesthood of ALL believers is hardly evident in our gatherings. A fact that no-one wants to talk about...
I am fighting the desire to leave my cute church. I don't always feel the connection or love. God has raised me in this church but some circumstances have caused a distance between myself and my church. I ask for the prayers of the righteous.
Hey Cory, crazy busy week so sorry for the delay. Man, leaving a church is like leaving a relationship. It is that hard for real. But know that every time I followed what I believed the Spirit was telling me with regards to transition I've always gained something better in return. I know He will lead you and let you know when and how it is time to move on. Keep me posted man.
Thank you, sir for your insight. I will keep you posted.
Cory Jackson BELOVED IF YOU FEEL THAT GOD PUT YOU THERE ,THEN STAY UNLESS GOD TELLS YOU TO LEAVE. LEAN NOT TO YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING. JESUS DIDN'T LIKE BEING ON THE CROSS BUT HE STAYED UNTIL HIS WORK WAS DONE. HOWEVER NEVER LEAVE CHURCH COMPLETELY. IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU MUST GO,THE FIND ANOTHER CHURCH, BUT STAY IN FELLOWSHIP OR BE LEFT BEHIND AFTER THE RAPTURE. YOU MUST HAVE A SHEPHERD COVERING YOU. SEE HEBREWS 13 :17 SND HEBREWS 10:25. THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT ARE FOR THE CHURCH NOT YOUR HOMES. MANY PEOPLE WILL LOSE OUT TO GOD BY NOT ATTENDING CHURCH. THEY MAKE ALL KINDS OF EXCUSES TO JUSTIFY THEIR ACTIONS. HOWEVER THEY GO TO WORK WITH BOSSES THAT ARE EVIL AND COWORKERS THAT ARE EVIL. THE APOSTLES,PROPHETS, PASTORS, TEACHERS, EVANGELIST, MISSIONARIES, DEACONS, CHIOR, USHERS, ETC ARE IN THE CHURCH NOT THEIR HOMES. THEM THAT ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD ARE THE SONS OF GOD. PEOPLE GET SAVED IN THE CHURCH NOT THEIR HOMES. PEOPLE GET DELIVERED IN THE CHURCH NOT THEIR HOMES. GOD SAID THAT HE WOULD RAISE UP A SHEPHERD AFTER HIS OWN HEART. ANYONE THAT DOESN'T GO TO CHURCH ARE LIKE A SHEEP SCATTERED ON THE HILL WITHOUT A SHEPHERD .THE GOAT WOULD BUTT YOU.THE DOG WOULD BITE YOU.THE WOLF WOULD RIP YOU UP.
Leave! The Holy Spirit is trying to draw many out of this false "church" system. True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
Many are confused and think they should stay in these buildings because of all the FALSE TEACHERS out here today on youtube, facebook and in these buildings. The Holy Spirit is actually trying to draw the masses OUT of these false church buildings. True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
The true church is the body of Christ, the elect not the building churches. The majority have been corrupted.
I agree. I attempted to address this issue in a recent video. I am hoping the clarity will help bring unity in the body of Christ.
czcams.com/video/n6N6lEThuMk/video.html
Church is on my phone and i can learn more from it i believe. Thanks Allen for these great online bible lessons. I find i can watch a video or 2 during a quiet time of the day and reflect on what i have just learnt.
Do you go to church? Or you just doing a quiet time everyday?
The Church and church organizations are not the same thing. I worked at a mega church as an administrative assistant and one of the main pastors told me the church was first and foremost a business. The created outside charities to meet the needs of the poor, but I got the impression it was more so the leadership didn’t have to deal with needy people. I faithfully attended and served in churches for more than 25 years, in almost every area of ministry. I gave until my body broke from exhaustion. When I got sick I had to quit my job and leave most of my ministry services. Then I was asked to leave the leadership of the one I chose to remain in, and treated as if I were a backslider. Eventually I left, mainly because I felt as if I were being shunned, but had no idea what sin I had committed. I tried two other churches, but being unable to serve in children’s ministry, I was not given opportunity to use talents I could do, I was expected to pay my dues in the children’s ministry. Don’t get me wrong, I love working with kids, but I physically couldn’t handle it and because of my illness I could not be as reliable as one needs to be for that area. I’m almost 60, and I get very fatigued.
I love my God and Savior and have a personal relationship with Him. However, I’m not considered a sister in Christ unless I attend someone’s church. This makes no sense. I can guarantee there are many they consider brothers and sisters in Christ who just attend for the networking, or worse, because it’s an easy place full of trusting people to be able to do evil things.
My point is, it’s getting very hard to find a church that teaches scripture and actually cares about people. It just feels like an exclusive social club. It didn’t used to, back in the 80-90s. It started to change around the mid 2000s. About the time of the Purpose Driven Life craze. That movement made everyone so busy trying to find their purpose they sort of forgot about relationship-especially that all important personal relationship with God.
Also, Jesus as far as I know never worshipped on Sunday. Like you said, He never missed a Sabbath. Just saying….
Brother Allen thank you for sharing!
I very much agree that it is vital we find our place in the body of Christ.
I just want to offer a word of encouragement to fellow believers who are really struggling to find a place to gather with other believers and the truth is being taught and people are being transformed . As another brother stated, many are going into "church" one way and are walking out unchanged.
I think what is so important for us to do right now is to make sure we are good stewards of the word of God. Study to show yourselves approved because deception and apostasy is on the rise. It's so sad and I know grieves Gods heart to see his people being led astray because we're not studying the word for ourselves. I'm so guilty of that and what happens is many believers depend on their pastors to only teach them rather than spending time in prayer and in the word and allowing the Holy Spirit to teach them.
So PLEASE just make sure your reading your bibles and God tells us if we acknowledge him in all our ways , he will direct our paths. He will lead you to where he wants you. It could be a home group or place other believers in your path to fellowship with.
Don't pray and worry! 😁
Amen. So many people come to church but don’t get involved with their talents, or they neglect church altogether. We need to give to the church so we can get from the church. As a PK I know from firsthand experience
And definitely talk to a church person that has offended you. Do not allow wounds to fester and turn into hate. I have witnessed this recently with my dad as pastor.
I can't get active involved in the congregation because I'm almost 69 and still working as a nanny. Wen I get home at 7 I'm exhausted. But I love to go to worship God and to hear the sermon.
I do thing outside the church like spreading the gospel.
And I visit a friend I. A nursery home and walk around say hi and let them know about Jesus.
I have this unspeakable peace and joy in the middle of family problems and wat I see in the whole world.
Put the armor and pray pray pray
sir. You totally took church out of context. we're the church. Jesus is coming back for his people not a building. this is the main reason why I don't go to church comma people preach what they have been taught and it a lot of time is wrong. I've had my most in life spiritual growth when I asked God to show me the truth in his word and I challenge what I've Been Told by other preachers. I've had preachers twist scriptures on me to get me to do what they wanted me to.
jermaine pearson you're not alone I'm under a lot of pressure right now trying to keep healthy relations with brethren who are fixated to what they were taught when they started.My salvation came quite differently,God met me at a sinner's table and changed my heart for months then I decided to try out church attendance and I honestly have no peace cause I feel forced to believe what they believe.Please pray for me cause God has also showed me in my dreams that it is not a good place for me.
@@lungilemtsweni4160 Dont always trust your "dreams" sent by God. We need to put everything to the test of Scripture. czcams.com/video/R20mCvTT8Wc/video.html
@@lungilemtsweni4160 u don't need to go to a buliding called church to have a relationship with Christ
If a person stops going to the church because "people hurt them", or "they judge too much", or "they are hypocrites," is that person going to church because of God or the people? I am homebound and physically unable to leave my home. I wish I could go to church. If people in that church treat me bad, that's on them, not on me. I go to hear the Gospel, not for people.
You can hear the gospel in your Bible .. and research
I like this vlog and the reasons we should go. Church is not perfect place because we are there to learn and grow. We also get hurt outside of the church. The enemy of this world is everywhere in or out of the church.But in the church you have fellow believers as well, who are there to help and strengthen you.
The biggest spiritual battles are IN THE CHURCH. Witchcraft is prevelant.
One thing I would say, don’t just join a church just for the sake of joining a church. Be extremely selective and make sure you are seeking The Lord thy God before seeking something physical like a church. The Church is the Body of Christ not just a building to gather in. Make sure you know the word of God for yourself after spending quality time seeking God and building that relationship. This is were you will truly Grow, is on your own and away from the noise of the world. Yes, religion can be apart of the world too. Spend time building your relationship with God and it will keep you religion more wholesome. Not seeking religion first but always with Seeking God above all else. It will never be your time spent with others that grows you spiritually it will mostly be your time in isolation, privacy and in secret. The time we spend with others edifies for sure, no doubt about that. But if we as the Bride of Christ are not careful we can become lost sheep amongst wolves(Mathew 7).
It’s very easy to yearn for company and turn to people for comfort but with out a solid relationship with God, that church, minister, ministry or group of people can become your god. You never want anything to take the place of God. Not people or church. Before you know it you have started to worship an idol, a false imitation of God. Breaking the most important commandment for all other commandments make no sense if we have missed the first one (Exodus 20).
A church should be something that compliments our walk not be the necessity to our walk of Faith with God. Just as we should “want” to be in a relationship but not “need” to be in a relationship with another. If we are made complete already inside through Jesus Christ we shouldn’t lack or want for anything. So any church should compliment the already solid walk you are on. Knowing everything we need God will provide and already has provided with His Son. All we need to know is inside his Holy Scriptures. We don’t have to look so hard and search so long. It’s sitting one your book shelf somewhere. We are always so hungry as people seeking a Guru to be our god and some human with all the answers. None of us do! We need God, we need His Son, We need His Spirit.
But, if you know God for yourself, know his word without a doubt by studying to show thyself approved (2nd Timothy 2) now you will be able to stand firm knowing truth and be able to tell the difference of lies versus the truth. Otherwise you are at risk to follow lies and perish for lack of knowledge(Hosea 4).
So invest in what you do when you are all alone when no one is looking. This is what is the most meaningful to God from what The Scriptures show. Not how we behave when the world is watching but rather how we behave when alone and only The Lord is seeing us. It’s very easy to put on a Holy show when we are seen, but’s its the things we do in secret that are the most Sacred unto God.
So if you’re looking for a church, make sure you know the Gospel and make sure that church also knows the Gospel. There are many churches that follow the devil and not God. So be careful and allow God to show you how to find a church. Don’t just pick one of your own accord. I am not saying to neglect the Body of Christ but the Body of Christ is not a physical structure rather it is a spiritual structure (Galatians 5).
Look at Mathew 6 and see how Sacred Jesus speaks of the things we do unto the Father in secret and time alone.
Read 1st Samuel as it talks about the Shepard Boy David that spent time in the wilderness tending to sheep by all alone by himself before being anointed by God through the prophet Samuel.
Read Revelation 1 about John The Revelator how he was imprisoned on the island of Patmos, all alone and was revealed to him the visions by God to write while even in his solitude.
Read in exodus 20 about Moses being alone with God in mount Sinai to receive the Commandments.
Read in Mathew 26 Jesus Christ praying all alone because no one would stay awake to pray with him in the Garden of Gethsemane.
So many instances of the men and women of God being alone and hearing his voice. His voice is a small still voice(1st Kings 19). For we are never alone when we have God.
There is importance in being alone as there is importance in coming together to edify ourselves and edifying the Body of Christ. Just try not to limit who we are and our identity in Christ down to 4 walls. To be honest there is so much false Gospel out there you need to be careful. But if you are equipped with the Gospel you can now spread truth we’re there is heresy, win souls for Christ. It now becomes an opportunity and not a downfall. But if you go out into the World not equipped with the Armor of God(Ephesians 6) you will either become lost or ill equipped to help the Lost.
True worship isn’t just singing at church. Music is a part of worship but true worship is how you live day to day before the Lord. So be very selective of who you entrust to teach you anything and make sure that The Lord God himself is your source for true knowledge. Not man. For man can lead you a stray for we are limited creatures.
But Jesus Christ says it best:
“But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.”
Matthew 19:26 KJV
Lastly, I would challenge you before seeking a church seek God first and let God guide you to a church. Spend sometime studying the 4 Gospels until it becomes ingrained in you. Listen or read it over and over with The Holy Ghost guiding you and asking God to reveal it to you as the scriptures say if we ask God anything believing we will receive (Mark 11). So ask God for wisdom and knowledge and you will receive it if you just believe and don’t doubt.
You will know who Jesus Christ really is an an intimate way and you will see a clear image in your mind and heart of his ministry. If you find a church that lines up with his ministry you are blessed. Even if they aren’t perfect as You think it should be, it doesn’t matter as long as they are ministering the correct Gospel and truly doing Gods will. This is the most essential. We will all have our little differences on what we think church should be like but as long as the correct Gospel is being preached this is the most important as the Apostle Paul would say. So ask yourself. Do know the correct Gospel?
May you discover The Lord in a deeper way and be guided to the truth by the Spirit of truth.
🙏🏽❤️✝️
“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.”
Galatians 1:6-12 KJV
“Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”
Hebrews 10:23-25 KJV
Wrong!!! Do not join yourself to ANY building called a church. None!!!! True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
reasy1978
I agree to some one that. We are the church. We still need to gather together some how though, don’t we? Be it inside or outside. Hast to be some type of assembly.
“And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”
Hebrews 10:24-25 KJV
Are you also saying that we need you specifically to have a true understanding the the Bible?
Also wasn’t the use of the word “physical” clear that I wasn’t referring to a building?
Did you actually read the post or did you just copy and paste this response?
I love Jesus I love God they’re always going to be in my heart everywhere I go I always think of them I will never forget them they’ve done so much for me in my good days and especially my back days I will never never lose faith.
www.crossway.org/articles/12-principles-for-disagreeing-with-other-christians/
I still fellowship with Believers even though I don't belonging to a particular Church. I will find one to be of service to as the Holy Spirit leads.
That is awesome! Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and for sharing your perspective Eli Ben!
True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
I dont go to church. I am the church.
Church can be anywhere anytime... as long as there are two or three gathered in His name, you are fellowshipping.
The "church" today thinks it's now become a building, seems more like a social club with little clicks within it, each little click doing their own thing...not really fellowshipping at all...not to mention most don't even use the 5 fold ministry to edify one another.
Stop with the guilt tripping ( manipulation) and taking the bible out of context.
Children learn about ethic and moral AT HOME, because OUR MINISTRY BEGINS AT HOME.
GOING TO A BUIDLING TO GATHER IS COOL, AND CAN BE EDIFYING TO MOST... BUT NOT NESECARRY FOR SALVATION.
I've learned and grown more in the last two years being at home and studying for myself and seeking God, then I learned in all the 29+ years going to "church"
Amen! Very powerful. Do you still believe this? I know it's been a month. Lol
A Church is not a building, it is the people who make the church.
Anyone who tells you that you have to go to "a church" to be Christian are either misguided or they benefit from having sheep erm... I mean followers to fleece.
The Church is not one of Earth, but the Heavens.
We do not attend a physical building, we attend a spiritual one, a communion and covenant between Man and God is what Church really is.
Lord Ashura You should go to church every week instead of doing other stuff
The bible says we are not to forsake the assembly of one another Hebrews 10:5
I'm home bound and my church has become the screen and the word of God. I wish I could.
As a person who grew out of organized religion, and adopted the "search for truth, not stupid fairy tales" mentality, i can tell you that after 7 years of critical cold thinking and looking at churchgoers as delusional weak cultist sheep, I have never been so depressed and in such a dark place in my life.. I am learning that I dont care if they are wrong and we are right.. I discovered that id rather be wrong and happy than be right and miserable.
Im going back to church starting this weekend. It might be fairytales or it might not.. but the one thing I do know is that almost everybody goes to church with an open heart and with good thoughts in their mind and THAT Im sure is what creates a greater mind of spirit, love and harmony which rubs off on every single body inside the building... So, call it what you will.. I am going back to have that rub on me again, if nothing else.
Hebrews 10:24 - 25 says we should not neglect to assemble ourselves with fellow believers.
Linda Sanderson why can't we do that on our own. why do we need a church to gather us together and study the word of God. is it the same if believers got together and studied scripture at a local park or in the comfort of their house?
Jonathan I myself have asked the same question. However, I was merely showing from the scriptures that the word of God says Christians should get together regularly, I guess it's kind of like having a support group, for encouragement, strengthening and building one another up. And since the 'church' is actually the body of believers rather than an actual building, it would not have to be in a building. Like you said, they could meet outside at a park, in individuals homes or wherever they could comfortably and peacefully gather to discuss God's word and fellowship with one another.
That verse actually means to sell what you have and give to the poor and live together as Christians in a Christian community preaching the Gospel.
Luke 12:33-34 (KJV) "[33] Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
[34] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
Luke 14:33 (KJV) "So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple."
So we can gather to do this wherever as long as we are together.
I find these verses in Hebrews encouraging. 'Church' as people say is the gathering of people. This can be a bible study or youth group or meeting on Sunday. However, I think it should be a meeting that is first and foremost about Christians meeting to encourage one another. Doing more of these types of meetings is better! PS We do not *need* to meet - we are saved by the grace of God. However, we will be more mature Christians by meeting with others who can encourage us and make us grow.
My LORD, please bless messages of truth such as this one and lovingly convict those who are living less than Your standards require us to. Father God, I know that wherever you are is where I want to be and if the church I attend does not completely share my beliefs or convictions, Father God I pray that I may be an inspiring factor in their lives. IN JESUS NAME, Amen.
One last thing I can't stand is when Churches pressure people to give %10 of their earnings. One pastor, at this megachurch I used to attend, went on about how he gave %10 percent pre-tax every payday as if to guilt us into doing likewise. If a pastor every tells you that, tell him that Uncle Sam already got your first %10. The church I attend know does NOT pressure people for money at all. And I really like that a lot.
I agree, church these days are more like businesses because they’re many lost people in the church.
Plus the Bible means we should give to others as Christ gave to us, like helping homeless people or someone who’s actually in need.
The church would try to switch scripture for their own benefits and abuse it.
Amen all true! If you love God and have the Spirit you will want church, you will hunger for it, feel something is missing without it.
Church is from the heart.
1 Corinthians 3:16 King James Version (KJV)
“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
Ephesians 3:17 King James Version (KJV)
“That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,”
2 Corinthians 6:16
King James Version (KJV)
“And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.”
Acts 7:48-49 King James Version (KJV)
“Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?”
Acts 17:24-25 King James Version (KJV)
God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;”
Paul made it very clear.
Wrong!!! True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
If you do not have a godly church 💒 in your area that follows word for word ...the wholesome words and the doctrines of our lord Jesus Christ ,stay at home and read your bible . If you remain in any church that doesn't follow the foot steps of Christ or pray etc ,you will be partaking in their sin.You can find true believers and fellowship with them outside churches💒If you pray God will lead you to true believers.You can know them by their fruits.🍉🍎
Most churches do not call Jesus Lord anymore!Be wise!
The Bible says to not neglect our meeting together. It doesn't say meet in a church building. Modern day church has been focused on the institutional aspects of a building. Church is where we take it. Not the building we attend.
Yet , pastors are always preaching on community blah blah, but we need people who are hungry for God to take the church into the dark places too. Not just where we go on Sunday morning.... We've forgotten that in this day and age
I'm not a father, and I'm not in a relationship. So that won’t work on me. The churches in my area are run by certain cliques, and the testimonies of anyone, not belonging to the cliques, do not get heard. Then there are the big churches with the congregations that number in the hundreds! The testimonies you hear there, are the same testimonies you hear nearly every week. Next there's the church where somebody inevitably (usually the same people each week) starts speaking gibberish (meaning, they repeat the same sounds too often for it to be any kind of language), and somebody else ( usually the same people each week) interprets the gibberish almost exactly the same way each week! Doing it to the point that I can lip sync their response almost perfectly! I can appreciate your perspective, and if it works for you, that's great! But Jesus is the temple. He is the Church! Man, on the other hand, is a corrupt temple, a self abused temple, and that corrupts all earthly institutions. That doesn't mean that I don't search for a church that the Holy Spirit tells me is right, but I have yet to find such a church!
Most churches teach false doctrines, and as soon as I hear one, I'm gone! One of those false doctrines is the one that leads people to believe that TRUE belief in Christ as Lord, Savior, and navigator of one's life is not enough! And unless they attend the right church, whichever denomination that is (almost all claim to be the ONE), they can't enter into heaven! That is Satan's doctrine! Mingle with a congregation of ten, and at least three will be his emissaries, whether they know it or not! Mingle with 100, and 30 will try to corrupt you, whether they even realize they're corrupting you!
Your journey is not my journey! The things you need to learn, and overcome, are not the things that I need to learn and overcome! Hearing your testimony gives me perspective, which is why I'm a subscriber. Plus, when I disagree, I can give you a sermon in return! You can't do that in a church without offending the cliques! You can't, for instance, confront "Pastor" Joel "build a better you" Osteen, without offending all of those "have my cake and eat it too" followers of his! Nor can you debate a pastor, in his own church, if Antinomianism is his false message - because people actually WANT to believe that! They want to believe that belief in Christ is their "get out of jail free card"!
I lived in Central Arkansas for a time, and this false doctrine is everywhere out there! People actually believed that they could carry on as they did as non-believers or unsaved sinners, simply because they asked Jesus Christ to come into their hearts! Sure some people who do that do get saved from that day forward! But the difference between the saved, and the unsaved "Born Again's" is obvious! Jesus is actually IN the hearts of the saved, guiding their conduct! He is completely absent in the hearts of the "Business As Usual" believers. If they were sincere when they asked Him into their hearts, rather than just covering their own necks, their lives would have changed dramatically! It wouldn't be business as usual. Satan's the "Embrace you Sin" guy, not Jesus! So if that's someone’s path, then they're going the wrong way!
How many churches that teach Antinomianism do you think will listen to my rebuking testimony? I live on the U.S. west coast. How many liberal congregates do you think will respond lovingly to my rebuke of their irrational and hypocritical hatred of Donald Trump? So far, that number stands at zero!
When I rebuke a congregation (only the guilty) for leaving a carton of milk in the meat department of their local supermarket, or for leaving their shopping cart in a parking space, rather than pushing it ten to 20 feet to the shopping cart caddie, how do you think they respond? They defend their sin!
"The store employs people to clean up after me!"
Do they? Do they really? That carton of milk has to be thrown away, because the store employees have no idea what happened to it between the dairy and meat departments! And when the parking lot gets full, and the only space that’s reasonably close to the store, is the one occupied by your discarded cart, who ends up moving it; the "store employee" or the driver of the car that's trying to park? And even if a store employee ended up collecting your cart, are we, as Christians, encouraged to increase the work burdens of others, just for our own convenience? Sorry brothers and sisters, that's just plain lazy and inconsiderate! And Jesus would NEVER do it, nor would he sign the release for you to do it!
I do not agree with letting my fellow sinners CON themselves into believing that they can embrace Satan’s ways, and still be saved! We all need to be aware that sin, no matter how great or small we THINK it is, is not defined on a sliding scale! It is simply SIN! It is filth in the eyes of the one who is sinless! And you can’t have a little filth every now and then, and expect the one who is without sin, to say to you, on the day you leave this world:
“Well done good and faithful servant.”
As I asked one of my Arkansas friends, who believed God would say this to him:
“So looking at the examples set by Jesus, and then by His Apostles, and disciples, what have YOU done to deserve God’s praise?”
He certainly didn’t deserve any praise for the off-color words he had for me in response! As for you, I would advise that you do not make church attendance a matter of salvation! When you do that, you cause someone who is searching for the right church (Which is often motivated by the Holy Spirit) to compromise, and select the wrong church, one that might lead them to false doctrines!
The right church will feel like the right church! That’s what I’m searching for. And that’s what MANY Christians, without a church, are searching for! Some of us may never find what we’re looking for, it is 2020 after all! But they certainly do not need someone fanning the flames of fear, over whether they should or should not attend some earthly church! If church will help them, then God will lead them. If it won’t help, then they don’t need someone telling them they’ll end up in hell if the don’t attend a church.
you are saying.all these nice things about church ...but the question is what is the church or WHO is the church ??? the church ..the church ..the church .....are u promoting peoplw to go to physical building or are you promoting to practice Christianity what the Bible tells to do outside of a building ....
Great question Glory! I would say both. We need to BE the church outside of the four walls. I would also encourage us to GO to church as well so that we can experience the community aspect that God desires for our lives.
So you are saying that in order for us to experience this community aspect..fellowship. ..is only inside the 4 walls of a building ...?
What about 2 Christian people getting together to read the bible and pray ?..isn't that also experiencing community?
glorygr6 Wonder why he didn't answer? Lol
Servus Christi good question, he responded to ppl thanking him but won't answer the question. So it's not like he doesn't see it... This is quite telling.
@@glorygr6 Of course you can experience Christian community outside of church. Why does that mean we shouldn't make an effort to find a group of Christians we can fellowship with "inside a building with 4 walls"? It's hard to be a part of a a family when we aren't present to take part in the experience. One thing we should all keep in mind is that there are often people "we don't like" in our family. That may very well be some people that we meet at church.
We need to be an example of Christ in the situations where we come across people we don't like and show them love regardless of how they treat us. We all feel like, "if someone looks at me cross when I go to church i'm not welcome and I should just leave and have "church" at my house all alone apart from my family". That's ridiculous, and it's something I've done in the past so I have grounds to speak on the matter. It is foolishness. I am too focused on man and not focused enough on the God I came to worship.
I attended and actively participated in church for a good 10+ yrs... The Lockdown started in March 2020, and I haven't been to church ever since, and the sad part is that I dnt even miss it. Its like I've decided I dnt want to attend church anymore. Im cold spirituality...actually dead, not cold
Well that’s alarming. Jesus is the way, the truth and the Life. Choose life beloved
I stopped going to church because the pastor get rich and the congregation struggle,pastors are wearing expensive suits and driving expensive cars ,living in expensive houses and a church member might not be able to Heat their homes but they can’t get help from their church home.I went to a church once and the ministers body guard shoved me in my chest to keep me away from the pastor so I couldn’t speak to him . All of this goes on a lot in churches now ,so sad.
Yes it's sad but the real churches still exist. God is able to lead you to a God church all depend of him.
It's impossible to be a true child of God and not go to church. " As iron sharpens iron so one man sharpens another" it's selfish to not go and then make excuses. God knows your hearts and the real reasons why we go or don't go. I don't feel like going every week but I don't go by how I'm feeling that day. It's not an emotional decision, it's a life long choice, as long as his grace will take me. Think of this verse. " My grace is enough for you for my strength and made perfect in weaknesses" God doesn't give us more grace than we need nor does he give us too little. Like the pastor said in the video. God wants you to use your gift to glorify him. The church also needs talents and some of our resources that God has blessed us with. The pastor cannot pay all the bills on his own. My question is to people who makes excuses. Why will God gives us gifts that we will never use?
The main problem I recognize with your statement was already answered by Jesus. He said the temple will be destroyed and in 3 days (His Body) will raise it up. The church leaders and officals were stuck on a building and missed Christ totally, and actually begin plotting to kill Christ. Whether or not believers have a building or not, an ark, or any physical representation of Christ body; Believer's will use their gifts where Jesus intended us too. God will continue to pair the believer's He needs together, to accomplish His will. "Whether two or three gather, Jesus will be in the midst. Why would Jesus do this? To be salt (flavors) and light (illuminates) to the world (marketplace), Not to be buried under a basket (building).
Yes...I have been victimized by the fellow "human nature sinners" of each church that I have joined. I still "drag" myself to Sunday Mass regularly. The folks who I can trust are ones who are helping me to forgive. It is interesting that you mentioned the third commandment... We Christians tend to choose which commandments we will follow vs the ones that we will not!
Question: I know that church is important and I agree with following the lifestyle of the Messiah and his teachings. But how does one know which church is right? Supporting money hungry preachers? And when your spirituality starving? You can’t just support a church that’s dead and dying.
I’m just asking these questions because I see to many people going to church and coming out the same way they went into it. I see to much carnal Christianity. I see to many folks being lead the wrong way. I see to many folks not knowing how to survive spiritual warfare. So how do folks understand the move of the Most High in these churches today and still be lost because of church’s?
The message is true but folks need to be directed to the right kind of churches to support as well as grow spiritually the right way. To many folks going to hell from church now that should raise a red flag.
One thing in this video the brother forgot to mention is when he mention Christ going to the church which in his day is called synagogues. And most of the time Christ went in there to preach and teach the people the right way aside of the wrong teachings of the priests. That’s why I pose these questions, yes church is important but getting to the right ones is even more important. We just can’t go around strengthening the hands of evil doers in churches. And one more important reason is we are taught in the Holy scriptures by the apostle Paul not to forget to assemble ourselves with one another. Church is to be like a hospital! It’s sad to see in these days no one is getting better!
Great question Carol. Perhaps a blog I wrote on this a while back may help you. Here is the link! www.allenparr.com/blog/how-to-choose-a-church/
THE BEAT by Allen Parr
Ok I’ll check it out
It's never about the materialistic church. It's all about the heart.
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The concept of ”GOING TO CHURCH” (period) is greatly misleading. The church of God is not a place, a building, or an event that can be attended. We ARE the church - the body of Christ. I attempted to address this issue in a recent video. I am hoping that CLARITY will help bring unity in the body of Christ.
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Im a Christian and after seeing this i have made the destruction that i will.... still not go to church i don't have time
I liked this video and the reasoning behind why one should go to church. I saw a sermon from RC Sproul recently in which he stated that if someone doesn't go to church, he'd question whether or not they are really saved. Realy?! The theif that was saved on the cross didn't attend church regularly I'm sure. I love going to church, but since I got married I find that its difficult to go due to my wife's disability.
I just want to go hear a sermon, sing, put some money in the plate and go home. I don't want to make small talk with anyone and pretend to like people I don't even know. I get the feeling a lot of other people there feel the same way towards people they really don't know. Another thing I Don't like is when the pastor is talking about church business or showing slides that have nothing to with God or his word during the time that is supposed to be devoted to God's word. I come there for one reason and that is to join with other believers to praise the Lord and get some word and go home.
You don't desire to fellowship with the people who are also part of the body?
True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
@@reasy1978 The people are the Church. A building is merely a sanctuary where we meet at. A location for God's people to fellowship together. Church IS necessary. Not the building, but the fellowship and the service. Christianity is not a personal religion. It's corporate.
Are you Denzel Washington's brother?
I’m so glad you spoke on this cause I been trying to get people closer to God without rubbing them off wrong and. They usually don’t see eye to eye with it me I even sent them Hebrew 10:24 where it speaks of it and they tend to ignore it.
Eph 4:3-6: "Endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." ONE!! Do you see how sad the testimony of Christendom is? When are they divided by different names more than the name of Christ? Does it come to us that this is denying the testimony of the practice of "one body"?!No "Christian" denomination represents the name of Christ.
So should we go to church on Saturday or Sunday?
I want to know too
@Have Mercy could you please pass me verse about God not dwelling in buildings?
@@damian0x51b4 www.crossway.org/articles/12-principles-for-disagreeing-with-other-christians/
What church do you go to and when do they preach, teach. Depends on that also. Hope you find the answer to the rest of your question
Very solid, practical and simple counsel. Great video!
I'm very concerned about going to churches not teaching sound doctrine/ traditions of men, having these idols up in the sanctuary (Christmas trees/ Easter eggs), lies about offerings versus tithing, neglecting the unsaved, and money changing. How can I trust someone who leads in that way? Then when you show them (in the scripture) the error, they ostracize you and act as if you're the one who's crazy. Give up our Christmas tree excuse me: "Saturnalia" and "Sol Invictus" celebrations? Their excuses: "God knows my heart." "He'd never send me to hell over a Christmas tree". "Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft." I have trust issues. I sought God about this a lot. If he shows me a church that can be trusted, I will go. But I feel that if I'm sitting in a church that has an idol in the sanctuary, I am partaking in that sin. Just like those who sit under a false teacher like so many out there. Anyone have any advice for me getting past those roadblocks???🧐🤔😟
I feel everyone interprets the Bible so differently but at the end of the day... Church can help believers who are not so disciplined in reading the word and praying and who are still new to the words... it has definitely helped me with all my questions I have learned to study the Bible and I have also started counseling at a local church it has saved my marriage and I feel at home around others who believe it Jesus Christ. If you don’t find a church ur comfortable in pray about it. The Holy Spirit will guide you. Don’t go by what others tell you read it for yourself and pray for guidance and believe me God will answer...
We can’t go to Church! We are the Church? How can you go to something you are? #sillyrabbit #tricksareforchildren
Asking someone what church they go to is like asking what color is 3pm, or asking how blue tastes. They're nonsense questions. Notice how Paul never wrote to a building but to a group of people meeting in one.
Denominations. We're made by man. GOD don't care about that
I'm in no way judging? But a lot of people I've met a lot of believers that don't go to church just go around bashing the church,no matter how much you know about the word of God? There will always be someone more knowledged than you. That's why I feel it's essential to be involved in the church. So that we'll be held accountable and grow spiritually
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I'm struggling with this because I want to attend a church that is not afraid to preach and teach about EVERY sin and repentance. I also want to be under a leader that believes and teaches on spiritual warfare. I can't grow in these feel good and entertainment type churches.
You confess your sin to Jesus … Jesus is the ultimate priest!
If jesus went to church on Saturday why is church being attended to only on sunday? If we are to follow jesus...
Lexi Music Jesus was Jewish
the Roman Catholic church is why
No Jesus did not got to church. What scripture says is He went into THEIR (meaning the Jews') synagogues TO REASON WITH THEM. It never says He went in them to worship. Read in correct context.
My grandparents on my mums side don't go to the church here in Grimsby and they're just fine Christians. Sure I'm an Atheist so I am not nearly as familiar with the Christian thought and that may not make me understand this situation that could be controversial but I have met a generous amount of my teachers that are loyal Christians and they don't go the Church.
Thank you for your comment Nicholas. I don't believe someone has to go to church to be a Christian. I just believe it helps us grow spiritually in many ways. I'm curious to know why you are an atheist. Care to share?
Thank you for the response and so I shall answer your question. I did careful consideration to make sure I got the details right so sorry for the wait. My path to Atheism likely happened more subconsciously as for I never really knew I was Atheist until I heard that word. I believe for a while I was actually holding Christian and Atheist beliefs at the same time for quite a while and I'm not sure why but I just thought they just fitted together. I don't why exactly I became Atheist but that is why it happened more subconsciously. I think I eventually realized that The Bible has parts of it that argue the theory of evolution and the Big Bang, so without knowing just made a decision as to which belief I would follow. I know parts of this may not make sense and may jump around but I really don't know how to explain the path I followed to my belief so sorry if parts of this don't go into the detail you wanted but this is how I explain it.
I'm going to admit first off that I am not a very good church attender. There are reasons for that, which I'm not going to get into at this point.
However, one of your points was that only 20% of Americans attend church on a regular basis. There are several reasons for this.
1. Way too many Church attenders talk as if attending church services on Sunday is the point. They are incorrect in this. The point is Jesus Christ himself, and the true church is the body of all who have received Jesus Christ as their lord and savior whether they attended church or not.
2. The lack of love between people in any given Church. Many people make a good talk, but they don't walk the talk. They often neglect those that are hurting in the church and just let them slip away. We are told in the Bible that if we do not love we do not know God, for God is love.
3. The lack of love Christians have for those that go to other churches. When we look down on those that belong to other churches because of differences of opinion, we are again disobeying the law of love. I'm not talking about those who disavow the fundamentals of the faith. I'm talking about people who actually claim Jesus Christ as their lord and savior, but look down on other groups because they have a different understandings of some things. Example would be predestination versus free will. We would be much better off to accept that others have a different idea on some things but are still our Brothers and Sisters in Christ.
4. Judging people on insignificant or false details within any given Church. When I was first a believer in Christ I was regularly attending a church, when all of a sudden a couple came up to me and started lecturing me about smoking. Problem was I don't smoke and never did. But they were judging me, and I had no idea why. Turns out what the problem was is that my parents smoked heavily, and I was used to the smell. I did not know that the smell was on my clothing because of their smoking. The point was they were judging me falsely on something that God does not forbid, and for something that I wasn't even doing.
5. Very often mankind makes up rules and laws that God never intended. And then they judge people on these rules that they have made up.
Now, I want to make it clear. I am not against attending church. However, these five things I brought up is what is making church attendance irrelevant to people. I am not saying this to judge people, it is something the Lord has put on my heart for several years now. The real reasons why people have found the church irrelevant, and the gospel is because we as Christians are forgetting that. Jesus is the point, and commands us to love each other.
“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.“ - Mathew 6:5 Mhh "Do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues." that basically means we should not go to church when we pray, but the church is basically all about praying, right?.
I haven’t been attending church lately I’d go but I’m scared that ppl there might bully me or ask me questions like why haven’t you been at church and I’m scared to tell them why
Remember those people are not your God they do not have power over your life
First of all I dont agree. Cause you can use your gifts that God gave you on the highways and byways
primarily I have used what God has given me in the streets in 2 states so....Secondly,I dont think it was correct for you state God will ask you how did you use your talents just because you did not use them in the building call church.
Hello Shadae, thank you for your reply. I didn't mean to suggest that the church was the only place to use your gifts. Heck, if I believed that then I would not have started this CZcams channel right? The vision for this channel was to go global and reach people worldwide, not just the church. So, we are in agreement there. However, we will give an account for how we used our gifts and talents whether inside or outside the church. Many people use the excuse and say, "I don't have to go to church to use my gifts." That's true. But my question to them is, "Do you use your gifts outside the church?" Many people don't. Thoughts?
@@thebeatagp you are the one misleading people. NOWHERE does scripture say true believers must attend temple services. Thats NOT true worship. Scripture CLEARLY says more than once that GOD DOES NOT DWELL IN TEMPLES MADE WITH HANDS. Also, Jesus Himself put an end to the brick and mortar temple system. Nobody authorized man to rebuild it but Satan. So you really need to do some studying via THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Yes its says honor the sabbath. Even my bible study says it does mean going to church if you refuse. Take one hour weekly alone by a quiet place talk to him bring your bible . Your still making private time with God doesnt mean you have to go to a building 😊
I've read many, many of the comments posted here and it is sad to hear of unsuccessful efforts to find a church organization/congregation worth attending. I've had many of those experiences myself. However, I encourage every true believing Christian to keep looking and not give up. True Christian churches DO exist. It took me many years and I've finally found a "church" that believes the Bible is inerrant and infallible, every word, and teaches EVERY WORD no matter now uncomfortable or controversial. I've finally found the first place that the term "church home" is actually true for me. Please don't stop searching. If and when you finally find that rare TRUE church, I believe you will agree with me that it was worth the effort.
Hey Allen, what church do you go to? like the type of church. And is the service on the Sabbath?
they are pagans, they don't keep the law
Who?
people going to church are pagans . they do not keep the commandments
Cole The VII I feel I can answer. Very few churches gather on the actual Sabbath day, honestly I think Catholics are the only ones who do. As they hold services daily. But Easter is considered the Lord's day because of his resurrection. Gathering Sunday and recognizing that as the Sabbath I believe is ok. God made the Sabbath day for us. A day set aside to rest...... so long as it is kept holy I don't see harm in it...... besides the way we in the western world are we begin our weeks on Monday anyway so Sunday would actually be our Sabbath....... pray for clarification as God reveals all😉
Way off here Jo Mo.
Jesus was NOT resurrected on Sunday or Easter for that matter. It would appear that he was raised on the day AFTER Unleavened Bread which would be the 16th AND also the first day of the week since Sabbath (weekly AND the first day of Unleavened Bread) fell on the 15th and this particular Sabbath was a "high day" because it was both the weekly Sabbath AND the first day of Unleavened Bread. There was not even such a thing as "Sunday" in Jesus's day and it was an 8 day week for the Romans with the names of the days of the week as letters A-H on the FIRST Julian calendar. (not the second one that changed to 7 days still with letters A-G then) Obviously today we are n the Gregorian calendar.
Jews kept their Sabbaths (which are called "Moedim" which means "appointed days") by the cycle of the moon, NOT the sun. So if we are being technical and I am, the Moedim (appointed times like Sabbath and festival days) according to scripture should be calculated by the Soli-lunar calendar which starts every month with a new moon. The moon guides the setting of the months and the sun guiding what constitutes a day as in "sunrise to sunset". But the MOON appoints the days of the month. Every month starts with a "new moon" (chodesh) See the literal Hebrew words in Psalm 104:19. You will see I am being honest. This means they were not on a continuous cycle of a Sabbath every seven days like they are today because the moon has a 29.5 day cycle. So there was a new moon at the first day, then 7 days later on the 8th a Sabbath, then the 15th, the 22nd, the 29th and then 0-1 day until new moon then you start all over with the 8th, 15th, 22nd, 29th etc. Every other month were 29 and 30 days. Occasionally an extra month was added and this is evident in Ezekiel 4 and 8 from the time Ezekiel lays on his side for the full 430 days for both the house of Judah and the house of Israel until the time he is sitting in his house after he is done includes the extra month that year.
Jews changed their Sabbath to Saturday and again-Jews could NOT be keeping their Sabbath on "Saturday" in Jesus's day because there was no such thing as "Saturday". Jews counted time as "First day of the Sabbath, second day of the Sabbath, third day of the Sabbath" and so forth until they got to the actual Sabbath day. They changed their Sabbath to Saturday to be more compliant with the world pagan calendar system. True fact. This isn't something I learned at church, this is something I spent weeks studying out in scripture about the new moons and the Sabbaths then I looked at history to see when and how it changed. There are three kinds of days in scripture: New moon days, work days and Sabbaths-all different.
Sadly, we live in a pagan world with a pagan reckoning of time. This is why Daniel said that the king to come would think to change the times and laws of God. (Daniel 7:25) this prophesy has already happened. God created time when he made the sun and moon. (Genesis 1:14) God operates completely outside of our worldly system and only those who have the Spirit and seek truth will see these things as they STUDY (not just read) the Bible line upon line and precept upon precept rightly dividing the word of God and studying to show thyself approved.
Now, if we WANT to meet everyday of the week-fantastic! That's what the early believers in Messiah did BY CHOICE. But it is not required according to God's law. What IS required is rest on the True Sabbath AND honoring GOD'S Sabbaths and the festival days which are special Sabbaths called "high Sabbaths" where some do require rest while others call for celebration and meeting with the congregation of other believers. There is one exception of a Sabbath that does not fall on one of the regular weekly Sabbaths and that is the Day of Atonement which is on the 10th which is not a weekly Sabbath therefore it is not considered a "high day" or high Sabbath.
But don't just take my word for these things, by all means study them out. We are told to TEST EVERYTHING. If you are able to see this in scripture, it will not be well received because people in powerful positions in ANY Denomination have their minds set on their own church doctrine and do not like being told the truth of Scripture when it contradicts their dogma. I go to church. Mostly I keep these truths to myself or blog about them. If people are not ready and prepared by the Spirit to hear the truth it doesn't do much good to tell them. These are not necessarily salvation issues, so there is no need to beat people over the head with it, but you said Sunday was a Sabbath and Easter was a special day and I could not let that go unchecked.
Another great job, Allen!
Thanks Ted! I had a crazy idea of doing a collaboration video perhaps some time in the future!
Yeah right. !!! Okay , whatever !!! You 2 need to get together and read the ( bible ) as you haven't a clue of who God truly is.
Church is where the followers of Christ gather to fellowship ,to exhort, to rebuke and to keep reminding ourselves to live n endure sound doctrine as we wait for our Lord's return.
While many of you are right about the church not being somewhere you go to but the people, you are wrong to cast judgement of weather or not he is for the Lord. In today's world it is common for Anyone to call church a building. Only the Lord knows our heart and he judges it. We are the bride as the members of the body of Christ. All of us on this earth are his children and have been saved by his sacrifice. So, none of us are worthy of his grace. Yet he loves us so much that he gives it to us anyway. And he wants us to live each other just as he has loved us. So instead of casting stones, remember that you are guilty of sin yourself. Simply explain that the church are the members of the body of Christ and the Lord's day is on the Sabbath which is Saturday not Sunday.
Well said
you are double- minded you just said Jesus went to church on Saturday and he is our example, so why not follow his example.
Verna Manning thank you for your reply. The thing we have to remember about when Jesus was alive on earth is that that time period was before he went to the cross. That means that everyone and everything was still under the old law, the old covenant, the old testament. Things changed after the cross. And one of the things that changed was that there was no special day where people had to attend the assembly. As Paul says, every day is alike. However, I want to be clear, there is nothing wrong with continuing to observe the Sabbath today.
Is the Sabbath day not apart of the law? The law that Jesus abolished when he sacrificed his life.. didn’t Paul tell us in Galatians that if we do one part of the law we must do them all and we Have fallen from grace...
“For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.”
Galatians 5:3-4
Jesus was a New, and Jews worship on the Sabbath. The church was born on the day of Pentecost Acts chapter 2
he's confusing the meaning of church when he says
in church or church
is a place.
church is not a building 4 walls
real church is group Jesus followers
built together as one body (family) - discipled and lead by the Spirit aka Jesus
look back at Jesus and his desiples (body in Christ) He took his church everywere wilderness, flee markets, and towns where there will be challenges through Faith so his desiples get to know Jesus more in there relationship that He is God and He is salvation but
in our American culture churches most percent have given up Faith in Jesus and been lead by mens works and became followers of men(religious/secular)
men have turn
church into a box
keep you bussy they out there cuz worried you get dirty (like the pharisees thought)
theater lip service entertainment the
performers and audience come to speak/hear the truth/the gospel but most don't have the passions or character to want to live out the Gospel while a few do.
open your bible and read Jude it will speek more
be a living active church
be a salt in light
salt doesn't stay gathered up in a jar
then there wouldn't be an experience of the flavor
why gather more candles box better to spread them out cuz less space more heat (out of control, pride and jealousy) can cause fire.
take light where it needs to shine to the dark.
www.crossway.org/articles/12-principles-for-disagreeing-with-other-christians/
Just because church is not a building does nof mean you can’t meet the church at the building you gotta meet them somewhere and building happens to be the place to meet them.
Scripture is meant to guide us not manipulate it to suit our laziness
Never again. Did it for 15 years. DID the babysitter, banquets.I am single and they thought I had time. Never mind I was a single mom and no one ever helped me.Plus I was an RN and had to work different shifts. And I was sick of seeing 💑 and I am struggle alone.
As a recovering right wing ideologue, I have experienced nothing but contempt and hate from the the majority of the tax exempt buildings and those who attend and Minister there. I'm referring to those who have the word church on a sign out front.
So I turned to youtube.
I've been reading the Bible daily.
I've been studying the Christian church as much as possible.
I've been praying to God through Jesus Christ daily.
I'm going to be honest. Jordan Peterson was the one who got me started and here I am I was baptized I repent and I accept Jesus as my savior.
Brothers and Sisters in Christ please pray for each other. Be patient be kind be factual ground yourself in truth.
Because something I've learned is you can't discuss anything with someone you hate or find disgusting.
I love this channel. I love you all too take care
We are the Church ("Assembly" or the Gathering of Believers) not the building. Galatians 1:13. What we have lost is not the attending of buildings but the body life (the mutual care, serving, fellowship, hospitality, encouragement) throughout the week.
I don’t have a problem with church, I just don’t connect very well with the service and fellowship. The people are very welcoming and friendly but it just didn’t workout for me. When I’m away from church, I do feel more connected with God and I even learn something new each day and I’m cutting down on things I shouldn’t be doing on my own without even realizing it. It feels like a process as God is working on me and I don’t realize it which is a good thing. It’s what I been telling my friends all along, allow it to happen on its own and don’t force yourself to do something you are not ready for.
We need to go to church! Find a community of Christians that you feel safe with and let the word of God be preached to you!
Wrong! True believers are NOT supposed to "go to church". Jesus tore down the brick and mortar temple system Himself. Thats in the Bible. And His true followers are now the temple, meaning your body. These "church" buildings are not God's and the Buble says that more than twice. People don't study and thats why they think calling themselves Christians and going to these buildings is right, but ITS NOT. Anyone who is interested in getting a REAL study with scriptures to prove that Christianity is NOT the true church of Christ Jesus, e-mail me at twomaysecond@yahoo.com
I only watched this because I have a somewhat unique situation and have been fighting myself on what to do. I work in a church but because I work on Sundays, I don't get to attend service regularly (usually once a month). I wasn't sure if it was wrong as I always hear people say we should physically go into service, not just settle for watching it online.
If you are carrying a burden pray directly to god though his Son Jesus,why to other people or church member? who is powerful and a healer? those church member or god himself? I dont go to church but I talk to god everyday and he answered all my prayers.
Yes church is the people.
Yes church is also a building.
Can we move on people and stop squabbling over the little things like what exactly a word means? Philippians 2:14. Read it.
Nah, I'm done with church. I have given everything to the kingdom only to get backlashed and rejected and majorly unappreciated. I'm not looking for what I can get. I just want to get out of there. Good luck the the believers who are still trying. May God bless your journey
2 is better than 1 Paul said keep meeting up Jesus said if 2 ask for anything in my name it will be done by my father in heaven . Don't let satan play you find a meeting place suitable for you All Paul also said the body needs all its parts All praises to the most high God Amen
We can gather in the park, underwater, in a cave and in the forest. We will still be church of Christ. We are a church because we help one another, and we worship God together. We are to support one another not to attend for show!
Let’s not give up meeting. As some are in the habit of doing.
So true going to church is so important
Most of us are guilty of seeing in the Bible only what we want to see, whether or not we want to own up to that fact.
That said, what do we do with verses such as Hebrews 10:25, which tells us not to forsake assembling ourselves together, as some do. Also 1Timothy 3:15 which tells us what the pillar and ground of the truth is. Also, what about Matthew 16:18, what does Jesus say he will do in that verse.
I believe that the teachings Jesus gave his apostles, they in turn taught, and passed those teachings on through faithful men they chose as their successors, aka bishops, who were to faithfully pass those teachings generation by generation throughout time, to the present day!
Notice please, I said bishops, not just one bishop in one particular city.
I believe God uses the various denominations, to draw us to Himself, but I think He means for us to find that faith which was once delivered to the saints.