Absinthe, Thujone, & Artemisia absinthium: What You Need To Know
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- Absinthe is an alcoholic drink that contains substances from Artemisia absinthium (wormwood). The drink has a long history of use and is often said to differ from ethanol in terms of its effects. However, there is little evidence for those differences.
The drink, like wormwood, usually contains alpha-Thujone. That drug could be psychoactive, but it’s primarily known as a convulsant. Under current regulations in the EU and US, thujone isn’t present at concentrations that would be dangerous. Research suggests old Absinthe preparations also lacked significant concentrations of the substance.
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Absinthe = Green Fairy; La Fée Verte
Artemisia absinthium = Absinthium; Absinthe wormwood; Wormwood; Absinthe
alpha-Thujone = Thujone; (-)-alpha-thujone; Alpha-(-)-Thujone; Thujon; L-Thujone; a-Thujone
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The government does not want you to have it. It must be good.
its in saint johns warts...
@@lizscott1279 who the hell wants warts?
@@davidkruse4030 Look up whats in it!!!!
My thoughts EXACTLY! Governments are Satanist. They are inverts.
My husband said this yesterday omg lol
I can't wait to show him this post lol 😆
Your videos should be shown in schools.
They should show TDC instead of dare
Kids are gonna use drugs regardless, might as well teach them how things work so they can take better precautions rather than the typical "drugs are bad, mmkay? dont do them. not even once"
Jazz Dixie Cup exactly. school cant control teens.
@@LilSparky I learned how to make a waker bong in Dare, I LOLed so hard in dare class as a child cause I had already been drinking for 2 years and smoking the reefers for a year but when I learned how to make a water bong I was glasd I sat thro that brain washing BS
No, this is accurate information which goes against the narrative. We have to brainwash all the kids into thinking that drugs are bad.
Well I've made wormwood tea and drank it this evening. What I experienced was some relaxation, a mild body numbness, and my peripheral vision seemed to expand a bit. As for creativity, I could think about one subject much clearer and when I did I noticed I could envision it much better than normal. My brain wandered less and seemed to flow like a river flowing with it's surroundings.
Electric Kool-Aid the taste is mind-blowingly bitter tho, it tastes terrible
How can you drink it and it’s so nasty I made a cup of it and it was horrible smoking it is horrible do you have any tips
Careful, I know someone who over did it and their wormwood tea put them out on the floor in a paralysis. We had drank absinthe together in Europe and were curious to explore but that ended the experiment.
"ABSINTHE MAKES THE HEART GROW FONDER."
I wonder if the older variants with nutmeg and other herbs that have psychoactive effects might have an interaction with the thujone that may not be common but could possibly cause more deleriant and dissociative effects when combined than alcohol can on its own? Nutmeg is psychoactive, cinnamon has something in it too, along with many other herbs and sometimes they can have weird drug interactions. A lady that's into witchcraft gave me a bag of herbs and said it'll give me crazy vivid dreams and it had mugwort, cinnamon, lavender and like 3 other things she said aren't worth much without being mixed. Didn't taste good but it worked awesome, full control of dreams and stayed asleep all night for once
Impressive episode! All on this channel is great and as accurate as it possibly can be. This episode was the most extensive one I've seen about Abstinthe. Great work!
Isn't it an idea to make a video of how your body reacts to drugs? Explaining the more scientific side of it, for example explaining the types of receptors, how they work etc.
It would also help to understand your other video's even more! :)
Yes, I will be creating content on more general pharmacology topics.
While his videos are brilliant and im not knocking them but they are basically just a narrated power-point version of psychonaut wiki articles about each drug.
One thing I always found curious with absinthe was that I could still keep timing on a guitar after a few. For some reason my dexterity held out a lot longer drinking absinthe rather than other drinks. I could feel sober, be half way down a second beer and start making mistakes, or be on my third/fourth absinthe and still function playing wise, but feel relatively off my face.
This was an extremely informative video!!! I truly Love drinking Absinthe and now I know a lot more about it... Thank you:)
Subbed automatically, I love the way u break everything down and not over complicate it like other content creators
I wish I'd known about this channel sooner
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I remember in the mid 2000s shortly after sparks energy beer came out , the energy beer drink 'four' came out (pre four loko) one of the ingredients in it was wormwood oil , me and a buddy were in high school at the time and tried to feel psychedelic effects from drinking a bunch of em ,, ended up just drunk and overly jittery on caffeine/taurine/ginsing
that sounds like heart attack juice lmao
Great video, I subscribed right away. Though as someone who has made and consumed a relatively strong wormwood alcohol extract I find it puzzling that the psychoactive properties of wormwood are apparently not well known in the scientific community. However, it is true that the effects of commercially prepared absinthe which have low amounts of wormwood/thujone are not at a high enough concentration to have more than a minute effect, which would then of course be overshadowed by the effects of the alcohol and the placebo effect! One might as well just drink vodka. The effects of a wormwood extract are unmistakably different from alcohol alone, and in the case of my extract, I did not even consume much more than 1 unit of alcohol before the effects of wormwood were felt. As another commenter described, the main feeling is a bit difficult to describe, but is of 'weirdness.' The usual thoughts and perceptions appear strange, bizarre or comical although you do not see any real visual hallucinations whatsoever, other than very minor ones, for instance, lights on a dimly lit street appearing much brighter than usual. I have also experienced momentary disruptions of my sense of scale, such that something appears briefly as though it is in miniature or a slight dissociation from events that are happening around you. There is also a stimulating, slightly restless effect, that may cause you to lose focus at higher concentrations and may lead to fits of laughing, especially if around others who have consumed the drink. Of course, consuming an extract of wormwood could be very dangerous, as the exact concentrations of the compounds will not be known, however, exercising extreme caution and trying small doses of the extract before consuming any more, I have personally never had any ill effects.
Your content is amazing.
Great job.
I’ve used many, many, many, *very* large doses of mugwort extract and it’s a stimulating light psychedelia akin to cannabinoids in feeling with a slight deliriant feeling. GABA a antagonism sounds right with the stimulating factor but there’s some missing neuropharmacology here pertaining to its psychedelia described by many users other than whatever amounts may be found in any given alcohol mixture.
Thujone is a terpene compound without a nitrogen "handle", very interesting!
mugwort tea also contains thujone, and it has many similar effects
I enjoyed my absinthe experiences.
It was about 60% alcohol and it did have wormwood in the ingredient list.
I can’t recall whether Thujone was also in there, but we did the whole sugar cube drip thing and while I’m not a huge black licorice (star anise) flavour guy, the buzz was rather pleasant.
100% different than normal alchohol buzz in my experience. The way it makes you Have crazy double/split vision after medium doses and the feeling. I do believe the wormwood is at play.
WORMWOOD definately has antihestamine like property.
In my village whenever we got rashes or irritation on the skin,we used it to get rid of the irritation and it worked miracles.
Maybe there is presence of antihestemime compound that explains the weird effects of it??
How does one extract antihestamine compounds and test it???
If it is possible i can do it,wormwood grows like wild weed and is everywhere in here.
I Am not a chemist but i could try to see if it is the antihestamines(if it is present) that causes it to have weird effects??
You can easily make an oil from wormwood using its dried leaves. Just add it to coconut (0r likely other) oil and cook over a low temperature (below boiling).for about 15 minutes. Repeating the process after a few hours might strengthen it. Strain the oil out, but keep the leaves because they are still strong and can be used, toss a pinch in stews for example. I rub the oil on affected areas to treat chronic pain. Beware that it has a bitter taste and is psycho active, similar to marijuana.
@@roncarpenter7240 thanks, definitely will try it once it grows here again.
In France I bought a 450euro bottle of the green fairy it was 90percent proof and had these like teabags filled with wormwood and it also had other herbs labeled in French but translated ment the herd brew recipe and it definitely had a large amount of pure cannabis oil the guy said it is extracted with pressurised liquid co2 it was savage af it came with a beautifully ornate set of glasses and a cool sterling silver sugar cube spoon and a bag of these cool af madera sugar cubes made from crystallised honey we only used it 4 times and done correctly in the glass with some ice is divine extremely potent drink 🍸 had it for 4 years and I've only drank it a couple of times if it's legit tinkerbelle level absinthe you genuinely trip balls and it's
....well how to put it it's a whole differently level legit just try it you will love it I got the taste for it but I can't afford tinkerbelle that's what the 4plqlp
I smoked thujone from a sage extract for a while; it has interesting psychoactive effects and a distinctive head space that reminds me of a low dose psychedelic, often times it's incredibly similar to synthetic cannabinoids. However I noticed a rebound anxiety and derealization for a few days following use with a terrible feeling of dysphoria which made me quit using it.
thats so fascinating experimenting with new herbs in general is, was it an intense high?
I smoked it once since it grows wild where I live, I just felt calm and heady but it gave me the realist feeling and weirdest, scariest dream I've ever had and my only false awakening.
From my experiences, in a mixture with other active compounds from Oregano and Chamomile, directly made with an espresso maker, I felt way way more elevated, it was insane, afterwards my bed was wet as shit from sweating but I felt clear in mind and through, also kicked my fever and ,by the way, in good enought doses it does help with clearing and healing of the liver so yeah.
When I smoked sage with strong tobacco into the mix, I felt even more elevated the non sage smoking without anything else, adding chamomile does make it a bit more trippy, and lavender makes it a bit more alterated, like the headspace is changed if you add that too, but it's insanely effective and awesome, one of my coleagues saw me doing it and he was amuzed by it so yeah.
This episode was awesome.
Absinthe is my favourite drink. Jade Nouvelle-Orléans or Duplais verte are great. It's like drinking an herb garden.
thats an interesting point ... which one are high quality and who dont
Anticonny where can I get it from
Staci B
It depends on where you live. I can get it from amazon, other online stores or from some liquor stores. In my town we have a store that only sells absinthe.
"Never underestimate the mind-expanding properties of a bottle of corn schnapps" Udo Lindenberg
Absent was the first drink that was given to me on my 21 Birthday and I love it!🤩
Damn, that's crazy, who wasn't there?
I swear I wasn't there.....
Is that what's wrong with you
I have tried absinthe once, I have always wanted more. It's beautiful
I got a little airplane bottle of it and it was so potent it made me gag
It tastes the same as jagermeister to me but with a much more potent alcohol kick
Smudging or smoking worm wood seems to open the bronchial tubes and clear the sinuses. I smudge if I feel a sinus headache coming on. It does improve my focus too.
Different alcohols produce different effects. Tequila feels different from Jack Daniels, for example. Absinthe (St George is my favorite) drunk feels more clear headed.
i like me some jack. to hell with jack and coke, jack and honeys the way to goooo
I know from personal experience it does more than just alcohol but I never hallucinated on it but the aphrodisiac qualities were for sure we might not know exactly what it does but it does something
75g wormwood + 750ml vodka. Combine and let sit for 7 days before straining and consuming. The effects are very different from ethanol and are quite pronounced. Once you drink the whole bottle the alcohol overpowers the wormwood and you then become drunk. Other people should try this as I'm 100% positive it's not a placebo effect...
75 grams?
10 ml of wormwood extract caused tonic clonic seizures and rabdomyolysis
The more I research absinthe, the more it seems like hype/sensationalism..
it totally is dude. when i was 18 many many years ago. a friend n i had heard all the chinese whispers about it, we went halves in some fancy ass 100$ bottle of absinthe and it had wormwood floating in it n had some fancy looking bottle. TASTED LIKE ABSOLUTE FUCKING SHIT! and just got us drunk yet feel sick from the putrid taste. lol please dont waste ya time n money on it when ya could just buy much nicer alcohol or drugs.
I enjoyed absinthe and had no hallucinations. I have grown it, but I don't like the taste of licorice
Research 🤣 thats your problem
@@rogerwiseman7957 oh yeah? Did you get some crazy high from it or what?
Part of my research is people who have tried real absent in Germany and Amsterdam said similar things.
Also it was looking into thujone and toxic monoterpenes and other alkaloids in wormwood....
Do you have anything to contribute other than "research is your problem" and a laughing face?
Any personal experiences? If so how many and how much did you drink and where was it meaning was it real absent for the absent you can buy in America which doesn't have wormwood in it?
And also the previous two comments before yours, what was their problem, because they said they tried it and didn't do anything or made them sick...
@@finchisneat what I can say from personal experience is yes! soak artemesia absinthium in a bottle of moonshine then split the bottle..more than drunk it's closer to a mushroom trip. and dry the shrub and smoke it 1 part each cannabis and wormwood after a coffee, i wouldn't recommend any of these. It just proves that point that 1 experience is worth 1000s of researched papers... just funny how that works isn't it. Everyone gets the same thing through all walks of life
Very interesting. Could you please put your sources under the video for further research?
Hey great video very informational I have another chemical that you NEED to do Carisoprodol as known as Soma
I'm glad you liked the video. I will be covering it.
Beer is distinctly different from alcohol too, it contains Cannabis Humilis (Hops)
humulus lupulus is a great herb love it muchly
I was always fascinated that this drug never produced a film or an early silent film like Absinthe Madness.
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Because it isn't psychoactive, besides alcohol.
@@charleselswick5404 That isn't true. Thujone is clearly psychoactive, and this video even states the mechanism of action. Also, alcohol is very psychoactive itself. Also, those kind of propaganda films don't really care about those kinds of facts anyway. The point is that the society saw it as something that was different and worse than other alcohol, so it would make sense for them to make a reefer madness style propaganda film, whether it actually is different from other alcohol or not.
Artemisia contain competitive GABA(a) antagonists, thujone included. Alcohol is more or less suppose to give NMDA antagonists-like hallucinations but the GABA agonist effect prevent it.
I chew and smoke artemisia for its stimulating/mind cleaning effect and it enhances hallucinogenic effect of several substances
You chew wormwood?! I'm not afraid of any ill effect it may have on your body, I'm just surprised anyone can tolerate the taste of anything infamously bitter.
I remember hearing somewhere that in the height of absinthe’s popularity it was drank in the place of wine. And absinthe being much stronger it caused a person to get drunker than they were used to and do crazy stuff. This might be the origin of its reputation
I love absinthe. It’s one of my favorite drinks of all time, had a couple glasses last night. It’s just like regular alcohol in my experience and I’ve had up to four glasses, alongside cannabis
Absinthe is definitely some powerful stuff I got an airplane bottle and it almost took my breath it was so strong
this video should definitely have more than 6k views :o holy fuck this was a good video man. and a trustworthy source of information I believe
I would like you to make a video about purple drink or similar please 🙏 I Love your videos ♡
Please just say the chemicals instead of stupid slang. Also he has done videos on opiates and opioids which is what the syrup is with a combination of promethazine which is an antihistamine (allergy drug). Its not worth your time, codeine is a very weak opiate your better off with a stronger opiate such as dilaudid if you prefer pharmaceuticals instead of illicits like heroin.
Ankara-Kedi- Kitty I second a video on the Codeine and Promethazine combo!
Scythe agreed most of us who are seasoned opioid users or addicts dont use codeine except for trying to avoid withdrawal have to drink 8 ounces just to get any effect which is mostly just the promethazine putting you to sleep.
@@FreedomThirtyFive while you are right and i agree please dont advise people to use stronger opiates like dillys, oxys etc. If codeine gets them high then great, better they keep it at that.
Purple drank. Its hard to do a comprehensive analysis of this as its a very diverse concoction depending on well lots of things. As mentioned it can vary widely depending on where you are, whose making it, and what they have on hand and its effects can vary as well depending on what other substances any specific consumer might have also ingested or ingests after consuming it.
It would be like trying to do a video on 'trash can punch'
You decide on a particular recipie and 200 people comment with 'thats not right', followed by about 200 different similar but distinct mixes that they use.
Stay away from purp. You never know what it is unless you make it yourself and there are far better ways to get twisted even so.
Cheers!
fascinating
After trying absinthes from all over the world, I have found Swiss La Bleue (which is clear as crystal) to be the best tasting, with a lovely milky louche and any Czech absinthe which are hardly worthy of the name and more resemble Windex, to be the worst.
Could you do a overview on codeine as it is used very commonly.
Yes.
So in the end does it have any obvious psychoactive effects besides the alcohol?
Unfortunately it appears your video on Alcohol is removed for some reason. Any possibility someone had a link to the Ethanol video.
can you make a video about diclazepam
If you want to experience absinthe get some dry Artemisia mix into a distillate and leave it for a week, use a coffee filter if you want to remove leaves. You should be left with a really dark green spirit
Hm I never really feel euphoric when i drink. Am a reasonably heavy drinker as well. Damn
Yashin184 that’s a result of tolerance. Just cut back and you can get that euphoria again. Or switch to weed.
Victlin also depends if u take medications or not
Could you potentially do a video on DPT?
Definitely, thanks for the suggestion.
Have you thought of doing 3 MeO PCP? seems quite interesting but not really used that much i think
Yep, I will be covering it.
Interesting.
I heard/read Van Gough had a soft spot for drinking this stuff.
can you please make a video on 4-ho-MiPT? There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of information on it compared to 4-aco-dmt
Sure.
can you make a video about Gabapentin
It was covered here: czcams.com/video/TSP_MMtoHt0/video.html
it always gave me a weird body buzz. nothing crazy, just kinda different then just alcohol. but you gotta get the good shit with lots of worm wood.
How about artemisia afra?
make a video on damiana please :D
Put a cloth bag of bruised wormwood in your hot water for your bath,very relaxing.
Wormwood and mugwort are similar. I use mugwort for dream enhancement.
The 2007 four look had wormwood oil in it
Am drinking artemisia right now... slightly bitter, good for blood regulation🎉🎉🎉
I love your videos but this one was quite repetitive, you kept hitting the same points. Pls do a video on myristicin!!!
should do 5-MEO-DALT. I found it interesting that it can be both smoked and taken orally. smoking it was amazingly intense.
When I used to get drunk off absinthe, I felt it was a much trippier drunk than other alcohols. Maybe try it before deciding it can't work...
The quality of information sources: controlled studies > uncontrolled studies > large number of of subjective reports > single anecdote. There is little benefit to me personally using it when it has been taken and analyzed for centuries.
@@TheDrugClassroom It may be possible that the alcohol and the other ingredients interact to produce a somewhat different effect than either on their own. Although, your opinion is more scientific, but the universe, and consciousness itself, is pretty inexplicable sometimes.
@@Sasuser It could effect different people differently. It's possible some people are predisposed to have a psychedelic effect from it while others are not.
Maybe prolonged use has an effect
12:48. 1854 or 1845?
the color and effects were from heavy metal salts that were toxic most likely copper but the stuff could've contained lead or mercury
Antagonism of gaba receptors sounds like a very very stupid idea, unless you want to test what being an epileptic is like. By the comments it seems like that is overwhelmingly the case
I love the black and white view of alcohol in the 19th century. It either cures all ills or it's the work of the Devil lol. I was surprised when I read that absinthe was a popular drink in Ancient Rome. There was a recipe for it in Apicius' Coquinaria.
9:30: "...a physician named Pierre OrNiDaire, but that does not appear accurate." Pronunciation typo gives new meaning to this sentence. 8D
Both in the spelling and in the pronunciation, the "d" comes before the "n."
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Ah, sorry about that. It truly sounded like you said "Ornidaire" on my laptap. 8D I listened to it 3 times to be sure, but now on my desktop, it definitely sounds correct. My mistake, sorry.
Where it's the election live stream video? I can't find it on your channel.
It has not been published.
Will it ever be published?
I know its delicious.
Prefer ones made with grain alcohol. Much crisper than ones made with beet alcohol. Beet alcohol has a syrupy, cheap character to it.
But I mean, if you're gonna get high, why not do it with a drink that actually tastes nice?
I drank Absinthe in the 90s from rural Spain, it certainly was active for everyone, none of the others I have tried outside of Spain have been comparable. I didnt see a green fairy though, we saw a lil green man floating around and it was terrifying.
So many plants to smoke and so little time.
Minus the hallucinations, it sounds much like weed in the right theoretical setting.
Nah I've smoked that shit. Made tea out of it. And drank absinthe. All I got was bitter taste and alcohol buzz
you forgot to mention how C.S. Lewis named his demon Wormwood in Screwtape Letters
There are likely a hundred details not included in the video. Hard to include hundreds of years of history in one video.
Yeah you're totally right man that was just a minor detail, I just thought it was particularly intriguing and had never thought of that being a reference to the cultural demonization of absinthe until watching this video. Thanks for the quick reply (and really everything else you do on this platform)!!
I'm glad you mentioned it. I wasn't even aware of the CS Lewis connection. It's great to hear you like the content.
eyy dizziness is the fun part
Me and my brother tried smoking wormwood every day for a week and never felt a thing.
The reports are pretty inconsistent with the effects and placebo hasn't been entirely ruled out. It could also depend on variation in any of the active components.
I've heard some people say they've noticed differences between batches as well. If this is true then there's probably more to it then the placebo effect.
Thanks for the reply.
ok try this.eat 5 to 20 grams of the plant fresh.it def has effects.smoking it never did shit for me.eating it felt similair to an mdma come up but then it seemed to just wear off even when i ate more.i developed severe dermititis in my mouth about 2 weeks after consuming it daily so be very careful eating it.my mouth was blistered for days
Damn I'm pretty sure I threw it out years ago... Had like two pounds.
it definitely works if you extract it to hash looking substance, be careful though because it can contain very high concentrations of thujone
Over 3 absinthe drinks alcohol overrides thujone and you're just drunk
It was banned due to social reasons. Poor people got happy on it so rich people banned it...like weed.
I heard it is like being stoned and drunk
Time to get Van Goughed...
Ow my ears!
The Russian word for wormwood is "chernobyl".
Ah yes, another plague... time to get the medicinal herbs...
That's a wierd ass looking molecule.
I could never gag down enough of the nasty shit, even if was the best buzz one could ever possibly ask for, even if I was deathly ill and, Absinthe was the 1 guaranteed cure, I'd have to die cuz, that is the most foul tasting shit, I gagged on one swig and almost barfed my guts up, it's gross. 😝
This is bullshit I drank a whole bottle straight lol
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mix with weed and test it.
The French pronunciations kill me lol
You know, wormwood and vermouth are the same thing.
Wormwood is a particular plant, vermouth is a type of alcohol. Vermouth is one of multiple drinks that have, at times, contained wormwood.
Vermouth is a wine derived spirit. Its infused and distilled similar to how port or sherry or other fortified wines.
They start with wine, and some mixture of wine and spirit or just wine or just spirit is allowed to absorb the essence of any variation of a laundry list of aromatic herbs and flavorings.
This can then recieve a certain ammount of sugar or sweetening syrup and perhaps a colorant in some cases and then its bottled.
So wormwood has been used in the past, and with the relaxing of certain regulations, is again today in some varieties. However your statement as i think you meant it was absinthe is the same thing as vermouth.
That would be more correct but still totally wrong.
They are both botanically infused alcoholic beverages, and might if you look back far enough have common roots depending on your perspectice being procedural or result dependent, but they are really very different beverage from most perspectives.
What you said is similar to saying that sugar is the same thing as koolaid since both are sweet.
Kool aid is actually any of a variation of products containing sugar or a sweetener or not but whose primary purpose is to be added to water to produce a colored and flavored drink.
Sugar can be one of the ingredients but that doesn't make it the same thing.
Or you could say that methol is the same thing as a newport. Its not.
@@metamorphicorder We don't have separate words for the two in German. If you look on Google translate you'll see. And they say we have a word for everything.
I appreciate the extensive answers ;D
@@Nobody_Cares913 perhaps germany needs to adapt its language to be more clear on the subject.
@@metamorphicorder naah it's easy. You take vermouth and whine or liquor, and then you slap em together. Boom "Wermutschnapps".
German has a word for everything because we just take our existing words and combine them
This narrator is not even trying to pronounce French words correctly. He's pronouncing the French word for fairy like the English word fee, and the names of the people ending ina d he is pronouncing. That letter is silent. It is written on the end but not pronounced like the silent e on the end of so many English words. He's getting those right.