Dishwasher not heating water? Try this easy fix / Offgrid Hack- Make your dishwasher use Less Power
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- čas přidán 15. 04. 2021
- I see so many dishwashers being discarded because they're not heating water, It is usually an easy fix.. Also related to this fix, if you live off grid and want to make your dishwasher use less power, you can disconnect the heating element relay and feed free hot water from solar or fire wetback into the dishwasher.
Note: Poor soldering from the factory may have caused this common fault, however if it does the same thing again, it might be the relay contacts are worn out so the relay itself will need to be replaced. - Jak na to + styl
Marty, just think how different your CZcams career might have been had
"Abandoned Electrolux dishwasher in the woods for 16 years.. will it start??" been the breakthrough hit. I suspect I still would be watching, but that says more about me tbh.
"COLDSTART of ABANDONED Electrolux DISHWASHER in the WOODS for 16 YEARS.. WILL IT START?"
And a Thumbnail with at least one red arrow and one red circle.
@@Glasrandkante instant sub from me tbh right there
Or, "YoU WoN't BElieVe WHAt KIlleD thIS WaSHinG MAchINE".
Click bait comes in many forms.
I admire the economy of your effort, dialogue, and editing, it makes for a terrific video adventures. Well done mate!
Marty, you just made my day! This afternoon I stripped down my old Dishlex that wasn't heating water and was expecting to find the heating element dead. When the heating element tested out just fine I was going to give up and toss the dishwasher. Was doing a last ditch internet search when I stumbled across your vid. Lo and behold, my control board has exactly the same fault. Thanks for posting!
It's always a great learning experience with you! Have yourselves a great weekend and thanks again for your time and videos!
It's amazing how often and how many repairs can be made by simply re-soldering. I didn't know this one. Thanks!
Have got that exact dishwasher, never let us down for over 10 years . Good to know about the heater.. thanks.
Nice fix! Did the same to our ISE dishwasher a while back. Something else crapped out (pump? Don't remember, been a while) and I opened it up and found a schematic with troubleshooting info! Ran it through its diagnostic mode, figured out which circuit wasn't working, tracked that back to a bad solder joint using the schematic. Repaired another bad joint for the heater while I was in there, we hadn't even realized it wasn't heating. Back up and running.
Oh my days! I was a little skeptical about this but I resoldered the relay joints and hey presto. Hot water again. Amazing simple fix. Thanks so much 😀👍
That went well bro and you got the dishwasher at a good price too. A blob of solder and it's back in business. Safe travels down your way.
No end to this mans talents! Well done 👏
Excellent instructions! Had the same exact issue on my Frigidaire Gallery. Got it up and running again in less than an hour thanks to your video. Thank you very much!
thank you ! ... followed your instructions and re-solder ... works again .. i was quoted $215 for board
How do you know how to do such disparate fixes? Simply . . . AMAZING! YOU ROCK!!!
Bed video
We Kiwis are born with a “fix it” gene 😆
Hitting it with a hammer didnt work so the next option is OBVIOUSLY re-souldering an electrical board 😅
@@simonmonto yes i know
He has a go .
Just like to say Thank You! For this great video, as you have saved us a lot of time, money and waste. Had this Exact Issue and just re-soldered that terminal and now it works perfectly again. wonder how many of these machines have gone to the tip because of this simple fixable issue? Thanks Again, Genuinely Appreciate you taking the time to show this quick and simple fix. Extremely helpful. Brilliant!
This tip helped me fix my electric oven. Exactly the same type of fault, burned solder connection, except it was on the relay for the fan motor.
Excellent Marty! I replaced the heating element and no go. I'll check the relay circuit and see what happens. 🙂 Thanks brother.
You never cease to amaze me, nothing defeats ya. 👍👍👍🇬🇧
I bet there are tons of those ending up in the landfill and it is such an easy fix. Thanks for sharing.
Nice fix Marty, I do the same with my electric appliances - I always check things like that, and many times I can fix the error myself for next to nothing.
If you call a service guy, they'll tell you that'll cost you at least 1 billion dollars to fix the error, and you'll be better off driving it to the landfill and buy a new one, and luckily for you they have them on sale right now - you can get a brand new one for ONLY a ½ billion dollars! Who could say no to that?! 🤣
It's so easy when you know,glad you are sharing.
Your channel has helped inspire me to start my own channel I love how you get right to it in your videos
Dear Phillip L.
👍👌👏 I will try your channel out (I already put some of your vids to folder "watching later").
Best regards, luck and health.
Thank you so much. This was my final attempt at a fix before giving up and forking out £400 for a new dishwasher on credit. It worked! So glad I found this video!
I just had the exact same experience - in Australia! Glad Marty posted this vid.
You make everything look simple Marty.
Good advice. Yes, heaters are the single largest draws on power.
AWESOME video, Marty! I wish this had came out about 6 months ago. We got rid of our dishwasher because it quit heating. This DIY fix may have helped save us a LOT of $$$$
When your dishwasher quit heating was it completing the cycle with cold water or it would stop at a certain point ?
@@suhailasaba1051 I'm not sure. All I know is the dishes weren't dry, & hot when the cycle finished, like they usually were. We ran er a few times to make sure we didn't accidently select the wrong cycle.
Another job well done there Marty . You certainly have a very wide range of skills . Top man . . Keep up the excellent work and content . Any more old machines of any discription lurking about that maybe need salvaged and brought back to life ? . 👍 .
You are the man Marty. Mine had exactly the same problem though the printed board was also burnt (not just solder off the relay contact). Thus I bridged it with a paper clip. Works a charm!
Steve Jones
Excellent repair tip, well done.
Great video. Possibly run some solder down the tracks that got hot to reduce their resistance
I have a washing machine same to yours and same faulted then I fixed it as instructed on your clip and it worked again. Thank you very much 👋👍
Thank you so much. You are an angel sent from heaven. I just fixed my dishwasher using your fix. God bless you.
Woohoo thats awesome.. it is a common issue, some of them were light on solder from the factory. If it happens again soon, might be worth replacing the heater relay, the contacts may be burned
I join with thanks, the departure of the 21-year-old Indesit dishwasher to the scrapyard has been postponed! 🙂
Six months ago, my parents threw away their Electrolux dishwasher after 8 years of reliable service from exactly the same reason.
I had that circuit board exposed, but I am not an electro engineer, so when I saw that burned black plastic circle above the relay, I wanted to give it to some expert to fix it. My parents however, they wanted a new dishwasher immediately, so they bought a new one and this older one went to a scrap yard. I felt bad, because I knew it must be an easy fix. Now I see it would have been even easier, as I have a soldering station at home. Farewell old electrolux dishwasher, forgive me my absence of electrical skills :D
Did it complete the cycle ? Or would it stop working if the water did not get heated ?
might make a good automatic parts washer for the shed.
I use my old 1980s dishwasher as a parts washer as its stainless steel inaide and the water temps set at 220f which will clean heads.valve covers.carb parts.hoses.pretty much anything free and clear of grease.oil.gas.diesel.etc after a full cycle..and it only costs about as much ad the sonic cleaner does power wise,but will clean much larger bits n pieces up to V8 heads.valve covers.intakes.carb bodies.etc.. Cheap cleaning...
How does the water pump handle the oil and grime?
@@tf7274 How does hohe sewage plant handle all the oil and grime? And nature, in the end... at least in Europe it’s forbidden as hell to attempt to do something like this.
@@dermitdrApe
The sewage plant copes with far worse...industrial grade worse.
Thanks for all your good videos . I never understand why peoples put a thumbs down on a video with information and tricks like you do maybe it's because they throw everythings do garbages without trying To have someone to repare it thanks again
Excellent. Thanks for helping people to fight the corporate greed/product obsolescence epidemic.
Thanks man, I would have never thought to check that.
In this throw away world we live in its nice to learn things like this
Thanks Marty, I’ll try this at the bach in Pohara. I noticed it last time we were there.
Marty, you are THE man. Thanks for sharing.
Anybody else doing this fix - while you have it open, might be a good idea to solder a length of reasonably thick stripped copper wire along each of those overheating tracks to reduce the resistance.
I know that machine in particular (the European model, which has a few small differences) and on ours, the trace is already thickened (by a machine at that). So these that "burn" out, are defective units. :\
well, the overheating arises from the interior of the relays, not from the PCB tracks. Root cause in most cases is the wear-off / burn-off of the relays contacts, which increases the resistance and therefore gives rise to overheating of the whole relays contact and its solder pin. I therefore recommend a replacement of these relays.
@@DrFrank-xj9bc that is what I figure, it must be something that caused the solder to melt.
@@DrFrank-xj9bc I would replace the relay with a Solid State Relay, if possible, to reduce chances of melting of solder.
Wonderful video such a quick fix to save the machine ! Marty your the man !
You nailed it! Mine is a different model, using a different controller but I had the same issue with the relay.
Thanks!
Useful information, that's what I come here for! Thanks Marty
is there anything you can't do? what an awesome tip, cheers
You see, this is what has been lost with our disposable mindset - the ability to fix stuff. Marty, you should start an international college to promote and train "Repairers". Thank you so much, mate.
Theres a new 'right to repair' law coming in to the EU, forcing manufacturers to stop screwing us over.
@@jumpleadsx2 Yep, and more's the pity it wasn't always a law.
They'll still do anything they can to get round it though.
Just fixed my machine thanks to this video! First time soldering a circuit board not beautiful but it works.
Nice, good job
The solder connection directly north of your soldering tip also needed a reflow of solder for sure.
I would have reflowed all the relay connections. Lots of current passing through there.
Cheers.
The wife complained about all the boats, tractors, industrial equipment in the yard, so Marty bought her a new house.
The house was almost for free and a little bit rundown, but after changing the fluids, wires and Heather core. She was good to go
My guess is it went down like that
Wow - how does one change a 'Heather core'....
@@willgilligan7605 Just unbolt it and bolt an new one in.
Hi Marty, that's a well known fault on Siemens brands dishwashers also. Latter may have 3 of these relays. The solder joint is broken, because the internal relays contacts are burnt, which overheats the contacts and in turn the solder pin. The brown stain on the plastic case seems to be located exactly over the defective solder pin, which proves this statement. A replacement of this relays is therefore necessary, otherwise this fault will soon recur. These relays are industry standard types and usually cost a few bucks each, for the next decade of operation.
Yes if it does it again I would replace the relay. I will add a note in the vid description. Cheers
👍👌👏 Well done again and as always.
Best regards, luck and health to all of you.
You are amazing. Excavators, tractors and now dishwashers :)
And coffee makers and....
And turning old washing machines into water powered generators for off grid power and....
Fibreglass boats and outboards
Just imagine what he could do with a Particle Accelerator and a can of Tuna...
I’m sure there is nothing you can’t fix amazing 👍
Thanks for sharing Marty great tip 🇦🇺👍
Excellent information
hi, it was the exact problem in my dishwasher Maytag, not exactly the same board but the same problem, THANK'S A LOT FROM MEXICO
Great work as ever 👍👍
Well done! Greetings from Russia.👍👍👍👍
Very informative excellent channel
You do a good 👍 job Marty
Proper job once again mate!!
I always push like frist before I watch your videos because I know it’s gonna be good and so I don’t for get to push it lol 👍
Thanks for another GREAT video,loved it!! !!
You the man Mr T!
Marty, thanks for another great video!
Good fix. I have a Samsung dishwasher that was having some "haunted by ghosts" issues (it would start up and run fine but halfway through the cycle would start cycling on and off and beeping like the door was being opened and closed every few seconds). Possibly caused by a cold solder joint somewhere on the board that was heating up during operation and becoming intermittent. I could have tried to fix it but the whole control module was potted in epoxy! $150 down the drain for a new module from a parts shop instead.
similar comment to others here, no hot water in m yDW. I almost ordered a new heater, but thought I should at least give your advice a look. I was astonished to see the tell tale scorch of a burnt out solder fixing. Re soldered ...and now I have a fully functioning DW. Thank you for bothering to upload your video
Nice, if it does it again best to replace that relay
We used to have a guy named Mr. FixIt on tv. You would be an excellent replacement for that show.
Great tip, you learn something new every day! :)
Thanks for another great video 👍
Good work.
Had to this myself a few months back really easy fix
In your case did the dishwasher complete the cycle or it would stop working ?
Great fix
Yet another thing you make look easy.
Good call..!
Endless skills Marty.
Good work mate.
If you can step around that you can step around what ever comes next with that appliance. Thanks for the look.
Nice fix and tip on the dishwasher.
The only thing I know about C temps is when watching the weather, decipher C with this.
20 is warm.
30 is nice.
10 is cool &
Zero is ice.
From the Black Diamond Bluebonnet Ranch, thanks for the fun. 🤠
Thats about all you need to know with C and 40 is a bloody hot day
@@MartyTTrue.
Great tip👍
Wow, great save!
Thanks!
Thanks for that Marty, learned something there too, if i ever get one of those things at least i will have a good chance of fixing it if it goes wrong, me i guess i am old fashioned as i still use the kitchen sink to do all my dishes, and cats bowls in...... lol
Good info tks
Thanks very much for the tip
I have that exact same dishwasher! I'll now now what to look out for when it stops working 👍
Well the time came. It didn't have that distinct burn mark but soldered the connection points just in case. And perfect result dishwasher is steaming again when I open it 👍
Thanks Marty
Did the same fix on a Siemens dishwasher here in Germany about 15 years ago, worked good for another 7 or 8 years; don't know what happened afterwards b/c we moved on from renting that flat to our own house.
This dishwasher was already >10 years old then and was technologically mostly the same as yours today, just more throug hole components on the PCB. Even in the late 1980s / early 1990s there already were similar ones (at least made from the same steel stampings, maybe with a mechanical timer wheel instead of electronics and less insulation).
Amazingly, there STILL seem to be only two different basic dishwasher patterns for more than 30 years at least in Europe and most other 230/240V countries. Guess it didn't help that most manfacturers were bought out by Electrolux and later Heier (China).
When you buy a new name brand dishwasher here in Germany, you get the "doesn't heat up properly" function as a FEATURE because the manufacturers don't spend ANYTHING on R&D concerning REAL energy saving modifications, they just alter the default cleaning program so it doesn't heat the water as much and doesn't dry the dishes properly in the end to get an "A+" in energy efficiency.
Only when you turn on all "heat plus", "water plus" and "cleaning plus" features does the dishwasher work as it should, and then it uses as much energy as the ones from 20 years ago.
Would those new ones complete the cycle even in case that it doesn't heat the water at all or in case the heater is open circuit ?
@@suhailasaba1051 I don't think so. Most likely one of the modern dishwashers with a lot more microcontroller integration would give you a fault code because the intended water temperature could not be reached. But this would have to be tried out to be sure.
What can easily be done (and what I did to my current "energy efficient" dishwasher from ca. 2014/2015) is to plumb in hot water from elsewhere so you save on the electricity for the internal water heater which obviously has to run less to reach the desired temperature with pre-heated water.
To my knowledge most of the brand name dishwashers sold in Europe nowadays are rated for hot water intake.
Of course this only makes sense if the externally heated water is heated in a more efficient or cheaper way (like solar) than heating it up in the dishwasher itself. Also this does not take away the problem of the artificially insufficient drying function at the end of a cleaning cycle.
Saved from the garbage tip/dump!
Thisw looks so much easier to try than replacing element.
Bloody brilliant mate. Love your super relaxed style of teaching us useful fixes. Hey, is your 400 watt wind turbine you got off Ali express still working ok? Would be keen to know what you think of it. Keep the videos coming. Thank you.
Those turbines are pretty useless, better off with a decent solar panel
Look at you go Mr Fixit 👍👌
Now the BIG question is, is Mrs Marty going to be happy, one of your neighbours or friends or are you going to do as I've seen one used as a parts washer. It's amazing how much of a small engine you can get in even a small dishwasher like that.
Used to work on Ford Transit diesels and they had a similar problem with the heater relay which had a section of printed circuit which was narrower than it needed to be causing it to burn out so I soldered a link wire in and all worked fine I kept a repaired one ready in my toolbox because it was a common failure.
Hey Marty, my F-16 Falcon just doesn't have the same thrust during takeoff that I'm used to-think you could take a look at it? 🤔
Hi Marty, are you able to do one on a stove - oven not heating up properly, maybe the thermostat not working. I have a fisher & paykel one that is playing up and the wife isn't happy! I had an electrician replaced the thermostat but I think he may have the wiring the wrong way around.
Good to know, thanks.
Nice little Fix :-)
Too many things get tossed when they could easily be repaired. Even if the circuit board had been smoked it likely would have been cheaper to just swap out the board.
Can't find the parts once discontinued.
You can only swap out the board if you have a board to swap. Manufacturers, in their infinite scum, don't produce replacements anymore after a certain period. Any board you see online (i think past the second year after end of production in most cases) is from a deceased unit OR from a group that bought these in bulk, carefully stripped them to bits, and are selling the parts as "new old stock", usually at a pocketable overprice.
What gets me is...how do you know all this stuff??
So...what do you know about girls? 😂
Lol.. Girls are highly complex, I would not try to fix one
@@MartyT you big girl have you tried? Lol
@@MartyT Hahaha! Too right!
Trouble is... the manual for correctly and easily run one of them 'girl thingies' is so goddamn thick you're life runs out just as you finish the last page of it.
I have kept the same girl in operation for 35 years. The older units are much easier to run and replacement with a newer model is expensive and they draw too much power.
Was it just the camera quality or did the small one directly above it look about to let go, possibly the relay control pin. I'd touch up all the ones in that area to future proof it.
hi there. i have an ikea rengora dishwasher not heating up. looked for the heater. is the heater in the motor?