Why I Bought a Canon C70 (as a sony fx3 owner)
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- sooooo... I bought a new camera, here's the reasons why
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro
01:21 - 1 Year With The Canon C70
05:12 - Why The Sony FX3?
07:38 - The Work I Do Now + Future Plans
10:14 - Why Upgrade From The Sony FX3?
13:24 - My Criteria For A New Camera
14:34 - Option 1: Sony FX6
18:33 - Option 2: Red Komodo
22:54 - Option 3: Canon C70
26:17 - But Wouldn't The FX6 Match My FX3?
28:13 - My Plan
30:39 - Q&A
40:28 - Conclusion
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Nice seeing younger video producers understanding the value of practicality. Most of the time all they care about is shooting everything RAW at the highest resolution. Not all clients hire you because they think you’re Steven Spielberg
Appreciate it! Yeah it's fun to look into gear and the newest thing / all the specs
But if it doesn't make my life easier with these projects, then it's useless
I would love a Komodo, but the c70 makes more sense haha
Agree. Hate the wave of Sony ninja prores raw bandwagon when the workflow is shit and no one is even doing anything with prores raw
I shoot sony every day, and while most of the time im happy with ten bit, I'd appreciate it if they started including 12bit internally in new cine cams. Ninja isn't practical for my workflow.
@ChadtheFilipino I thought Prores is easier to codec to work with and ProresRaw was just easier to work with than Craw , Braw or Red RAW?
If most of the content is for CZcams, all of these ultra specs will go unnoticed. If the intended viewing medium is a theater movie screen, then yes, high end specs will make more of a difference. At the end of the day, its the creativity of the creator that makes the biggest impact. Just my opinion, but at the same time there is nothing wrong with using high end gear either. Creating something from nothing should be a joy.
Really awesome thought process behind this! Glad you found the best tool for the job.
appreciate it! really happy with the versatility of it, enjoy your videos too!
Terrific video, I appreciate your perspective and willingness to share.
Love this breakdown man. I definitely think you and I have similar work environments and styles with our clients, and definitely has make me think more about when I buy my A Cam. I have a Rigged Sony Fx3 that has been incredible this last year, but I was one of those people who got stuck in the Fx6 backorder... cancelled my order due to timeframe. Have still been looking at the Fx6 now that it is back in stock and being privately sold, but the C70 has definitely gotten way more appealing. Thank for the thorough breakdown... Especially because I used to be Canon. Will make me think for sure.
appreciate it!
That fx3 is incredible, dang yeah that backorder time was so gnarly to watch
the c70 is great to consider, if you're using all modern e lenses, it may get tough but sometimes people are willing to buy lenses for both systems!
Been following Sam for many years now. Loved his youtube stuff as well. Glad I found yours!
So rad, he's great! Appreciate it!
I'm in the exact same position as you in terms of the type of work that I do and the cameras that I've tried (except I have the A7SIII instead of the FX3). Thanks so much for this video! You answered all my questions and I agree with all of your points! I was on the verge of pulling the trigger on the Canon C70 and now I've just pressed the "Add to Cart" button :D
haha love it! You'll be stoke with it
Both cameras are at the top of their respective markets I feel
I'm a few months in and couldn't be happier- the c70 has been incredible to work with
I know I would be happy with the fx6 as well but having something different has been fun
I'm still using the c100mki and mkii after a decade and I really couldn't be happier. Great image, small file sizes. It's been a workhorse over the years.
Almost went for the C70 but the weak hinge on the screen that tends to break and the lack of full XLR inputs really held me back. I wish Canon would have just put everything the C70 has into a C100 body and call it the mkiii. The formfactor of the C70 is absolutely amazing and I love it.. it just doesn't allow for proper and robust audio inputs.
it's better to record that externally, have something that have dedicated preamps
I really want to the C100 mkii for project, youtube and doc work. The C70 looks so lush, but the price though worth it is out of my reach at the moment, I love what you said about the small file sizes and amazing battery life. I'm usually a one camera body and lens guy. I think it maybe worth doing the same here.
I have 1 C70 and 2 C100mkii, I love these setup for podcasting and interviews. The C100mkii looks very film like but the C70 is way sharper and haves more dynamic range for sure. I don’t envy any Sony or red owners for what I do. Music videos, podcasting and interviews
This was a great video bro! Have been loving my FX3 and looking forward to getting the absolute best out of it over the next year. Secretly hoping there’s some magical leaps forward in internal ND technology that allows it to fit in a smaller factor cinema camera, otherwise I’m happy with what I’ve got. Looking forward to seeing what’s next in updates to this cam though.
Your perspective is so refreshing as well, at the end of the day these are all tools to do a job. I’m pretty tired of hearing about colour science and ecosystems when all you need is something that you enjoy using and gets the work done.
appreciate it! that fx3 is just so incredible, such a great setup for a ton of workflows!
yeah I'm sure there will be something in the pipeline, would be pretty insane!
thanks Lucas, yeah it's pretty tiring hearing all of that stuff / people getting annoyed at what cameras you use lol
Fantastic point bro. It's like how I feel about the 6k pro and xh2s
appreciate it! yeah each camera has it's preferred environment / workflow that it's geared towards
I can of course take my c70 traveling, but it's gonna be big and annoying and overkill lol
My needs are vastly different as a stock video producer but I literally went through all those rabbit holes and came to the same conclusions lol. It was almost weird hearing your breakdown. I got the FX3 at launch and it’s stellar for my workflow and needs. Great vid!
haha love that! crazy how things overlap across workflows
That fx3 is truly incredible, such a great value
I really enjoy your long-form content man. It’s refreshing in this space.
really appreciate that! it’s hard to keep it at 10min for these videos sometimes, there’s just so much to cover haha
just depends on the topic i guess!
Agreed. Well said
Thank you for sharing your insights and this comparison! I am looking for an "A" cam myself, and it was definitely useful to be able to observe your thinking patterns - thank you again! Great Video!
appreciate it! Heck yes, that's the entire goal! Glad you enjoyed it
Bruhhhh love it! The work you did on c70 brought me here. The magenta shift for me 🤤
haha appreciate it!
With my FX3 I'm going for the FX6 as the A cam. I love shooting shoulder rigged and owning an FS5m2 right now.. the ergonomics on these cameras are incredible and the ultimate Swiss Army of cinema cameras.
that's a great option! You definitely can't go wrong with it
Nice explanation, there are so many great choices for filmmakers. Thanks for choosing Bright Tangerine for your C70.
Thank you! Great time to be a filmmaker
Course! Will always rock your guys’ accessories for every kit I have
Awesome video! This is what many people are looking for. The do-it-all doc style camera. The combination of good af, battery, 10 bit compressed and uncompressed codecs, internal nds, video assist tools like false color, shutter angle, C4k. This all makes for the ultimate camera and rn I think the c70 is the only camera that really does this.
Can’t wait to see if the new version of the Fx3 add that internal Evnd like I thought the first version would along with adding the other cinema features like false color and shutter angle. Maybe even see it in all in a hybrid body someday like a future A7 Vl
appreciate it!
it's absurd how stacked this c70 is, plus it's just so dang small! I can see myself using this thing for a very long time
Yeah I wonder what sony would do! it would make sense to have that ENVD to make it fit better with the fx line
false color + shutter angle would be so ideal too!
Really enjoyed this video and your perspective man 👊🏻
thanks spencer! really appreciate it
Great video. Amazing journey to get to the right creative tool for you. I just went through a similar journey upgrading from an aps-c Sony camera, and I found myself with a Panasonic s5. Obviously a much more entry level camera for filmmaking, but after working with it for the last month, I know I made the right decision for what I'm doing at this moment. The S5 is an amazing camera. Thanks so much for sharing, it opened my mind up to a lot of possibilities in the future. Actually, I didn't even think that I could probably adapt EF lenses to my L mount. I have to check that out. Anyway, stay well, and keep making great art. :-)
Thank you!
Always so nice to have that affirmation after time spent with new gear haha, glad you found something that works for you!
So glad this video was helpful for you! Yeah I totally recommend adapting different lenses to your camera! allows for more looks and a different way of shooting with manual focus
Cheers!
This was excellent. You answered all the questions Iv'e had for awhile haha! You ought to get some kick backs for all the c70's you're gonna sell
dude this helped me out so much! thank you so much
amazing! Glad it was helpful
You rock!! Thanks for making this video! I'm considering all of these cameras and being steered towards c70 as I already have a R3 for stills. Thanks brah!
appreciate it! Wow that combo is going to be great, that R3 is pretty amazing too
You and the C70 is just a natural fit. Your C70 footage made me look up who did that in the first place.
appreciate it!
Nice one. I hope you'll be really happy with the C70. I've had it since launch, and still love using the camera. With the latest firmware it's such a complete package. I'm so used to built in ND's and having proper audio channels so it's such a nice middle ground between a 'full sized' cinema camera and a mirrorless. I can't see myself finding anything better anytime soon. Agree about being brand agnostic though, I will still have times when I get hired and need to use a different camera system and that's fine, but I know what my preference is! Enjoy
appreciate it! yeah it’s been working really well on my projects so far, i have a few coming up that’ll really put it to work
the firmware updates have been crazy! would’ve never expected canon to do this
it’s such a solid setup for 90% of users- i love mirrorless cameras as they’re great for personal videos but i could never fully rely on it on certain sets
internal ND / audio is so key!
totally agree, i just wrapped a project where they rented 2x fx6’s so i know that overtime i’ll be shooting on many brands which is fun!
Your thought process is well thought out. You made the correct decision for you. You got away from all of the bs and concentrated on your needs, not anything else. You have the cameras that will keep you nimble and productive.
I like Tilta cages over Smallrig due to the quality, but Smallrig is a good place to start due to their loads of options and relatively low cost, but with anything when you move up you usually move on.
The over two year wait for the fx6 is crazy and I missed out on one twice by 5-10 mins, while making coffee and getting breakfast with the website set, oh well, not meant to be so I will stick with my blackmagic and A7SIII for now. Great video and I think more people should watch this to hear how you came to this brilliant analysis, hype be damned.
appreciate it!
tilta does make some good stuff!
yeah that fx6 waittime was absurd, I didn't want to order something and have to wait 8 months haha. To be fair it finally came in stock the day I bought my c70.. but I'm not bummed haha
really appreciate that, yeah that's the entire point of this video! To help break the norms and really dig down and see the reasons why you should or shouldn't buy something!
Thanks for watching!
Those updates have been just soo gooood, never expected the c70 to get raw. I upload a lut for image reference and record raw, so the lut doesn't get carried on to the final image.
so true! never could've imagined it getting raw, basically throws the c200 to the curb
I agree with your non fanboy approach. I also wanted to love Fuji GFX for my photography work yet Canon just makes so much more sense for what I do while keeping my kit minimal.
love it, yeah that GFX is a great camera! but again it has strengths and weaknesses- a r5 + gfx 100s would be a great workhorse combo
But for now, yeah the canon can do it all until you need an upgrade or something different
Great review! one of the best and clearest camera review so far. Thank you! Will send a DM for some questions. Thanks again!
really appreciate it!
this was a great video!
Thank you! Very long winded but glad to hear that haha
Love it dude!
appreciate you!
Excellent breakdown of pros and cons.
thank you!
Great! I'm C70 user for two years already and I'm still confident it was my best choice. Good Luck!
amazing! it's gotten better over time, which is very unusual for modern cameras! I love mine
great video man. this was extremely helpful to me. looking to make the jump from hybrid cameras to a dedicated video cam and was eyeing sony but after a recent shoot with the R5C and your video detailing your experience with sony the C70 might be in my near future 😎
appreciate it!
Yeah that c70 is a fantastic option for a lot of people!
Hybrids are great, but there's nothing like working with a cinema camera haha
Love this. As an R6 + 1D X II user, I’ve been thinking about a C70 since it came out, but so far I’ve just rented them multiple times. But man, it would shave off workflow time for reaallll
By the way Thomas, after your video I started to searching for the fixed (non variable) ND filters, and I found a very interesting option! Marumi has a magnetic set of NDs made specific for the video! Marumi Movie Kit. The key feature of this set is that it has 1 stop, 2 stops, 3 and 4. And it designed to be used in combination, like 4+3 stops to achieve 7 stops. And as I understand it doesn’t loose details and colour. I think it should be much better quality than Freewell.
So with this set you can put any stops ND without needing to close the aperture. And because of magnetic it will be pretty fast
I'll have to check those out! Wonder how that'll work when stacking glass like that
thanks for the rec!
You make some valid points here Thomas, and although I don't totally agree with you, I can definitely see where you come from. I've had the c70 for a while (since it was released) and yes, the image quality is amazing, and you're right in that how good a camera is all depends on your own workflow. I ultimately decided to sell my C70, mainly because of its size/weight, but especially because of the terrible performance in low light, which is a huge requirement for the type of projects I do. So yes, it all comes down to workflow. I also shoot both Canon and Sony, but I lean towards the Sony for most of my projects because of the type of filmmaking I do. Great video!!
appreciate it! Totally get why you would lean sony! It's still an incredible camera no doubt, that EVND is so useful, having sdi is nice and the dual base iso is just insane to work with. Definitely one of my fav features on the fx3
Great video! I started with a Blackmagic pocket 4k and ended up with two Canon C70s. I completely agree that internal NDs are a game changer. Something I don't see many talking about is the advantage of being able to purchase EF class and use the 0.71 adapter. Buying used EF glass (I have an EF 24-105) is some of the best cost to quality I've found. I also own the Sigma 18-35 1.8 and Sigma 50-100 1.8 which are both aps-c lenses, yet are also some of the best value to cost as well. Having a large range of used EF glass for the C70 that provide both incredible image quality and reliable autofocus at generally half the price of the full frame/competitors lenses, I've found often makes the overall cost the same or even less than those investing in another system.
appreciate it! the c70 is just so well rounded
100% agree with the EF / 0.71x workflow
I dont use modern EF lenses with the c70, but I have a full kit of vintage lenses that are EF converted. pairing that with the 0.71x adapter has been a great move!
Really enjoyed hearing your thought process behind getting the C70 and your plans for what types of lenses you plan to build your kit with. I personally own an A7IV for my own stuff, but use C70's for most of my professional work! Definitely hard to decide which lenses to invest in haha
appreciate it! Love that, can't go wrong with sony and canon nowadays, especially when you have experience with both for work
yeah I try to not buy many modern lenses bc you never know hah
If I do end up with a FX6 or something I could see the value with owning GM lenses, but often times I shoot with my vintage lenses anyways bc of the look / feel so I get grounded quick when I start thinking about the RF 24-70 or GM lol
Why didn’t you go for the FX6 as a Sony user. I’ve an FX3 and bought an FX6 to keep using my lenses.
@@shuggfilmzandstudio2354 I explain it in the video! I have one Sony lens so I wasn’t committed
Plus, I use my ef vintage lenses on any camera I use
The c70 is a better fit for my commercial jobs
Love how you introduced the Contax vintage primes w/ the speedbooster on your c70! IMO the Canon DGO sensor shines significantly when paired with vintage glass especially with old Canon FD lenses!
Thanks! Yeah this sensor is so special, I’ve been shooting 99% of the time with my Contax lenses
Man I need to give those FDs a try again!
Im in the same boat. I have the 6K Pro and I love it for set work but it’s impossible for run/gun work which I still do occasionally. Especially as I have permanently adapted it to PL mount.
My job got a C70 and the more I use it, the more I like it. Will probably move to it.
that 6k pro is a solid deal forsure!
Yeah the c70 feels more well rounded than the p6k, which isn't a bad thing for the p6k
Highly recommend the c70, it's incredible for run n gun / set work!
I have my c70 for a year now and it just works well and very happy with it. I would love to see more videos about those contax lenses.
so rad! yeah it’s a great camera, lots more contax videos on the way! filming another one this week
I'm using the fx30 rn, and ive used the fx3, s5, c100 mark ii, and the more i use these cameras, the more i come to realize how big internal nd's really are. My next choices next really would be something like a c70, fx3, or fx6. I do love the smaller files sizes for c70 though... thats something i love. And maybe i do go to c70, then later the fx6.
It really is so convenient, I can't stress enough how great it is to work with haha
yeah all three of those cameras would be great! can't go wrong with any of them. I love the fx3 / c70 combo- gives me the best tools for specific jobs
Dude thanks a lot for this video. I´m literally in the exact same position and this video is just incredible valuable!
course! Stoked to hear that it's helpful
Great video! Watching this just reminds me of the “switch”. Everything we seem to want from our cameras now is what we had 15 years ago with the dedicated video camera. A compact, all in one camera with built in xlr audio and built in ND filters. A single fixed Lens we didn’t (and couldn’t) fuse with, all with great stabilization. However, the interchange prime lenses with the fantastic low light and cinematic look is such a game changer. Eye pleasing look, but with the price tag of a car and a silly rig. Some day they will make the absolute perfect camera, they are getting close…but for now the struggle continues 😂 and I’d rather just get a simple great shot from my iPhone ☺️
I bought a C70 two weeks ago.
Absolutely love it❤
so nice! such a great camera
Really enjoyed this review, dude. I got to the video world with Canon Mark 3 I had bought 7 or 8 years ago and then I switched to Sony system for few years. But Sony A7III was a huge disappointment for me and in spite of getting new A7SIII I've got myself a Red Dragon 6K and I really enjoyed it. The media straight from the camera was perfect and I could see the smallest details at the actors coat.
But this the biggest problem was that this camera was heavy as hell and you always need a few v-mount batteries, huge gimbal like Ronin 2 that turned every project to really expensive one.
I was lucky to sell it fem months after purchasing it. I loved the quality, but the clients didn't want to deal with r3d and sometimes they just wanted a quick proress material.
That was a big challenge for me to switch from Sony FX6, FX3, Red Komodo and C70, and I got the last one and I love it. These perfect canon colors remind me the time I was using my old eos camera for my first projects. This camera is perfect for my sigma 18-35 and 50-100 (that I use probably 85 percent of my filming) that I usually used with red dragon and BMPCC6K. I've got a speedbuster and now I can use full frame EF lenses.
But the same time I had a lot of projects to film with Sony users or for a production that have only Sony cameras. This fall I had few projects for 40-50 days and I realized I could rent it every day so I've got myself a FX3 and I enjoy it too.
These are great cameras and I used them separately or together. That's amazing they have some cool features. Its like having a two cars with different characters.
These two cameras are great and I like that you enjoy them too %)
appreciate it!
yeah those old Sony's were brutal haha, the color was just so odd and the log curves didn't work well with 8 bit- I think it added a bad taste to a lot of people's perspective on sony when the new generation came out (a7iv, a7siii, fx3, etc)
Yeah that red setup is gorgeous but you're right the workflow definitely gets deeper with it
Love it! I feel the c70 is a great choice for you, haha love it you got a fx3 too!
Both are incredible, and it's so nice to have them depending on the needs. Sometimes I do prefer working with the fx3 bc of size haha
Thanks for watching and sharing that!
Great video. I got the r6, r5c and the c70. That's my setup (minus all the add-ons) for my work.
thank you!
that’s a dialed kit right there
I just watched your FX3 video and now you have me wondering… wtf do I do. 😂😂 love it bro.
hahah love it! Yeahhhh haha, it really just depends
Back when I made that video I couldn't afford a c70 / fx6, so the fx3 was the best option for me
I'm still keeping it, but having a proper cinema camera for work is just so dang nice haha
Great video. I learned a lot from it. Thanks.
appreciate it! glad you enjoyed
As someone who recently, and happily, picked up the FX30, I was looking at what camera I may upgrade or add to my gear in the future. Owning a Sony camera, I have been thinking that the FX6 would be a natural progression in choosing a higher end camera. But, I'm leaning back to the C70.
Why? Well, as a low budget/indie filmmaker, I need to shoot with a camera that I can use anywhere without drawing attention to myself. So, cameras that "look" like a DSLR would be a good choice. In that vain, the C70 has that look. Whereas, the FX6 looks like a cinema camera.
Solution? In DaVinci Resolve, you have the Color Space Transform tool that allows you to match shots from multiple cameras, regardless of manufacturer. So, I can see shooting with the FX30 on gimbals or quick run and gun situations, and the C70 for the locked off shots, etc. This video actually helped in making this decision.
Subscribing.
100% that's a great idea! Glad this video helped you out
Owning cameras that work best for your needs is highly recommended vs blindly picking something based off of being in a certain brand
Looking forward to more c70 settings, rigging, tests, techniques and work flow videos
Haven't used my c70 handheld enough since I have an r5 with a stabilized sensor. But since that makes ultra wide lenses wobbly I've been wanting to try out the c70 handheld more. Would love to know your techniques and settings when going handheld and if you use digital stabilizing
appreciate it, me too! Lots on the way
Yeah the r5 warping is an odd one, not sure if they've fixed it at all but I remember seeing how bad it was on wide angle lenses haha
for the c70 I dont use digital stabilization- but practicing handheld shooting is key. Movements are important, weight of the camera, and if you really need to smoothen the jitters, getting RF glass with IS built in is key
I plan on doing a video about handheld shooting, I'm really stoked on that one
@@thomas.kovacikSmoothen?
@@superfly13161205 yeah cameras get micro jitters when theyre light. Having IS in lens, or stabilization in body will help with that
Same with adding loads of weight to your camera kit, having a heavier setup to hold doesn't move as much as a lighter setup - thus less micro jitters
nice video man, very informative. New sub
really appreciate it, cheers!
I love the practical approach. While I do want a C70, I’m a hybrid shooter as we do both professional headshots and product photography as well as client branding and promotional videos I think I’m going get the R5C first.
And probably in the next year, get the C70
Thanks for this video. I am on the same path as you are except I shoot with Canon R6mkII which is amazing both for stills and video. I am really considering the C70, but I am not sure at all. With Ninja V+ I can get some serious RAW out of the R6mkII and thats full frame. But you are absolutely right that C70 is just video dedicated camera "out of the box", where with R6mkII I have to rig and fiddle around. Great video.
the r6 mk2 looks solid! Yeah I tend to stay away from the ninja, I've heard it's good but I'd rather just keep the kit small on cameras like that and shoot with internal codecs
yeah the c70 is just so dang good, you need media, a battery, maybe a mic and a lens and you're set haha
This is exactly why I chose the C70 over Komodo. Workflow + Internal ND + Audio
Once you taste how practical is to have ND filters at the tip of your fingers, you just can’t go back.
At least, for run and gun and documentary scenarios.
I love the C70, makes me wonder what could Canon put inside on a C70MarkII
yea that's why hollywood doesn't use them or auto focus
want a full frame version of C70
Interesting. I went the opposite direction. These two are a good set. I’m not getting rid of the C70, but using FX3 as B-cam and A-cam for a lighter set up in simple shoots to cut down weight. I always prefer the colors of the C70, but it’s heavy for gimbal use. Both are good.
haha love that! Both are so solid
I’ve been using the pocket 4K since it dropped it’s been my run and gun but the c70 definitely been on my mind to upgrade to it to ease my run and gun workflow
dang that's a long time! the p4k is fantastic too
yeah the c70 would be a nice upgrade forsure!
@@thomas.kovacik compared to other reviews of the pocket 4K I’ve kept mine in pretty great condition still a workhorse for me especially doing a bunch of speaking events where I’m recording 3-4 hours of footage non stop
I've had pocket 6k, 1dx ii, komodo & c70. I do outdoor/offroad filming and the komodo had awesome image quality, but it was a pain for run & gun. It gets heavy when built out with just a screen and one small battery, cables all over like rigging a pocket cam and it takes forever to turn on and off, then gotta black balance more. The c70 was the nicest for run n gun that I've used. Komodo still has a nicer image, deep colors and more depth to the image. C70 + R5C is the best combo for run n gun and still need some photos or second camera angle sometime.
totally agree, the Komodo is definitely a niche setup
yeah the c70 / r5c combo is pretty solid!
Outstanding video. We’ll-reasoned decision.
thank you!
Great thoughts Thomas! I went through almost the exact same process but I ended up landing on the Komodo. The c70 seems like an awesome choice though! 🙌
appreciate it Riley! Haha so rad! Yeah it's a great camera
Funny enough, 1 year later- I'm looking to replace it with a Komodo X haha
@@thomas.kovacik Oh very cool!!
I have literally been going back and forth with buying the Komodo. Thank you for this! I went to film tools yesterday and they said the c70 would be perfect if I do a lot of documentary work. So I want to test it out
I felt that! the Komodo is great but not as ideal for run n gun doc work
The c70 is incredible, I highly recommend it! The new RAW codec is so good
Hi Brittney! Run-and-gun, documentary style is what I shoot 95% of time for my work and I can confirm that the C70 works great for my team's workflow!
Brittney! I enjoyed watching your videos when you were agonizing over the c200, bmpcc cams and other models. Eventually you settled in the Sony ecosystem but I always felt like you had this great workflow with the c200.
Give in to the darkside! Come to team Canon....lol.
@@getfmlr You know what's funny. I'm actually thinking of purchasing the c70!
@@BrittneyJanae been subbed to your channel so I await the good news ! 😁
Nice breakdown. I Own BM Cameras (From the Pocket 4K to The Ursa G2) and they are specialized cameras for real unless you can build a compact rig which I've managed to do with some rigging pieces. On the point of NDs... approach purchasing NDs the way you do a camera body. A lot of VNDs are okay to a point and then they go crazy when you try to stop them down too much my advice is in the future as you do more commercial work make sure you invest in solid IRNDs.
thank you! Yeah VNDs aren't the move
I finally found nisi IRND 3 and 6 stop circular filters - these have filled the gap well for internal nd
I use them on my fx3, and will use them on any camera I get in my hands that needs NDs
Matte boxes are ideal with nicer filters, but sometimes the size / workflow isn't ideal for run n gun stuff
I wish I had those nisi IRNDs when I shot on the pocket 6k, man that would've helped a ton lol
it was a super useful video!
thanks!
I got myself the R5c in addition to the BMPCC6K Pro (which has the internal ND which I cant live without now). Wholeheartedly agree on why the BM is cumbersome and why the R5c isnt that good of a purchase. I thought to myself that as I also need a photo camera the R5c would be the best option. Now I am waiting for my C70 and got the R6ii to complement the hybrid need.
That's a great setup right there! It's always nice to have a camera dedicated to video / photo instead of rocking just one - if you're budget will allow
I wanted to love that R5C too, wish it was more inline with the fx3 (price / size)
One thing I've realized while transitioning more to gaffing: no matter how good your camera is, if you don't light it right the image still looks like sh*t. So the main factors are: is the camera industry standard? And, is it built in a way that you can work well with it? After those two considerations, all the other specs are extra, and then it's time to focus on other things like lighting (and lenses).
"I like it" really is a good enough reason to choose a camera.
100% everything in front of the sensor is sooo important. I've shot good / bad things with every camera and it all came down to lighting, composition, framing, movement and so much more
I agree, as long as you're cool with the workflow with that camera then go for it haha
About to pour some eggnog, have too many Christmas cookies and enjoy this content. Let’s GOOOO!!!!
haha heck yeah! Merry Christmas
Man...this is one of the best videos I´ve seen so far. I enjoyed watchin it soo much. On one breath. Looking forward to work/meet you some time haha!
Did something change throughout the last year, that you would say...C70 in 2024...maybe wait till the C70 Mark 2? The only thing that would be cool, from my point of view, is that the C70 or mark 2 should have a dual native iso at least like 800 and 3200 or maybe even 6400-12.8000 haha.
But anyway! Really enjoyed watching the video :)
* and i did it without skipping through the video haha. Just starting to watch the part with the C70 actually haha
Thank you! haha I cut all the breaths out
I think canon has some new cameras on the way so I'd wait if you wanna spring for the new one. Not sure when it'll come out / ship though
If you need one now, I'd get one still! it's a great camera and super cheap, and you can run it as a B im sure to the newer ones
Hoping the new canon's have dual base iso, 6k sensor, CFE cards, sdi and some other cool features
thanks for the kind words!
@@thomas.kovacik thanks for you answer! Yeah, 6k, dual iso would be awesome🙌 I'll be patient haha
No doubt. I bought the Komodo when it was launched the summer of 2020, and while i was waiting for it to come in, they announced the C70. and i was so bummed. because during that summer i was on a travel job shooting on the C500 mkii, and man, i was kind of regretting that i already bought the Komodo. The RED is definitely a PIA for tiny crews or low budgets.
Thanks for stopping by, love your videos!
Yeah the komodo is great, but man is that c70 a workhorse. Internal ND, great audio, great AF, all the buttons you could need, RF lenses work well with it, and canon keeps giving it updates so now we have RAW LT / ST. It's been great for myself as a solo op
The KX looks enticing bc it fixes a lot of issues I had with komodo og, but yeah it's not as ideal for the majority of projects alot of us work on hah. I go back and forth deciding what to do with my c70 and it's just too good.
I wish it was in the style of the c500, but the small footprint makes it a dream for travel gigs
@@thomas.kovacik excellent! Thank you. Got an offer to trade my OG komodo for a C70 and im on the fence
Thanks! Great vid!!!
appreciate it! glad you enjoyed
🔥🔥🔥 very useful
appreciate it!
This a great video, canny long, but really good and I will certainly be sending it to my customers who are trying to decide on the C70! I think it is funny about how obsessed you are with internal Nds (me too) though cinema cameras don't have this as it can change back focus and they can colour shift, so it is therefore more consistent to use external solid nds like tiffen or Schneider. The fx6 definitely has the same sensor as the fx3 btw and the whole audio issue is what stops it being an almost perfect camera. It still great but even if it had one XLR on the body would have been great and considering the fs5 did it's very annoying this doesn't, even if it had the mi shoe adaptor would have been something. The main thing I hate about the fx3 and I only figured this out recently is that you cannot run shutter angle so have to change the shutter speed with frame rates which is amazing all cinema cameras should have shutter angle.
yup! there was a lot to cover hah
For a solo op like myself, internal NDs just make life sooo easy. If I were on more video only sets with ACs I wouldn't care hah, but for the majority of my jobs I'm running solo and when using primes it gets a bit hectic carrying and swapping filters
Yeah the audio on the fx6 is a big bummer, especially since those top handles dont feel sturdy. I haven't used my c70 top handle in a long time bc I now use a bright tangerine one which I prefer- I couldn't do this with the fx6 bc I lose my audio
Yeah shutter angle would be such a great addition! Once you taste the goodness of shutter angle it's hard to go back haha
Thanks for watching!
Both are great camera's that work for your needs
yup! couldn’t agree more, i’m sure any camera could get the job done, these ones fit the bill the best with price / features / workflow
Great video I love how you really narrowed down to the T of what you need. I need to do this same thing when it comes to my cooking videos. I have a question how come you didn’t constitute R5C? Was it battery life, and ND filters?
thank you! The r5c wasn't a thing when I first bought my FX3, it came out a handful of months later
The main thing about the R5C for me is ND filters and battery life yeah
To me, it's not much more of an upgrade from my FX3 - though it has 8k raw and a 45mp sensor and it's a true hybrid camera with the cinema operating system and such
The fx3 just fits my needs better for that type of camera, I dont need photos so I'm not missing that
The c70, for another $700 was a much better offering for me
I've seen people switch to the r5c, so it looks like a viable camera for some!
@@thomas.kovacik Thanks for responding man I appreciate it. I did notice there’s a typo in my message I meant to say consider lol. But I have trouble picking cameras for my cooking channel because there’s really no channels out that teaches about gear for cooking videos it’s always landscaping, weddings, portraits, sports etc. So for gear to use in the kitchen is hard to find. I’m guessing the lens and lighting may be more important than camera bodies.
all good! yeah cooking shows are pretty niche- I know of one channel that uses all c70s and RF glass, that seems to work really well for their workflow!
Lighting is definitely super important, if you can I recommend the 600d and 300d from aputure. 2x 600s would give you plenty to light for ambient / set and use the 300d for close ups and such
I feel with the cooking show you may want speed / good battery life / audio built in
The c70 / fx6 are definitely key contenders I think
@@thomas.kovacik which channel is that? And thank you so much for this info man I really appreciate that. One more question on top of the last question above, what about lenses?
Thanks for sharing.
course!
I have an FX9 and recently sold my Komodo and bought a C70, with the raw update on the C70 it’s a more versatile camera overall than the Komodo. I’ve used the FX9 and the C70 as two camera set up for interviews and in Resolve you can get them to match. Komodo has a great image but falls short in a lot areas, FX9 and FX6 only have 7 stops of ND vs C70 having 10 stops, in bright daylight I find I still need more ND to shoot wide open or even a stop down from wide open on the FX9.
dang that's a unique position too! Love how you saw the c70 for what it is when comparing it to the Komodo for your workflow
So rad that they work well for two camera setups
yeah the 10 stops of ND is pretty clutch for midday shooting, definitely nice to have in the kit
I'm thinking to trade my Komodo for a C70 as well, but to be honest, never seen a really good image from the C70. What can you say about it's image vs Komodo?
@@UCG7 From my experience - theyre very very close, the red does feel richer in some settings
I've never been disappointed with the footage from the c70, at the end of the day you're trading off something with both cameras, but they are also so incredible that im sure you'd be happy with either
The workflow of the c70 alone kept me from getting a Komodo
@@UCG7the C70 is a tiny sensor in a prosumer body that delivers a very “video” image. Different target altogether from the Komodo. Not to mention the internal ND’s are mediocre. But you have to correct the image so much in post anyway, you can usually clean up the color shifts they cause, especially at higher densities.
@@superfly13161205 pretty sure both are super 35 sensors.
What an excellent video, great content and well thought out! I’m shooting with an fx3 right now and its a great camera, however I really don’t like the audio handle and the limitations in rigging. I don’t like a “cinema camera” in a mirrorless body. The screen is unusable and I need an external monitor for focus. And one of the major downsides for me, the e-mount system is so limiting and makes you locked in to e-mount glass. I prefer my vintage lenses, but there are times when I need something else. I invested in a couple sony primes (24/50) and a sigma 24-70. I can’t adapt them to any other camera body and that sucks. For that reason I’m thinking of selling the expensive primes because I’m looking to get something other than a Sony for my next camera. All that said I will probably keep my fx3 like you for certain jobs. What is your glass strategy, other than having vintage primes? What e, rf ir pl glass would you get to use for both cameras?
appreciate it!
the fx3 is fantastic, yeah I can see taht! There's definitely limitations, buuuuut when stripped down it's a powerhouse
The c70 feels much better, as it feels like a step up- a c300 / c500 definitely feels nicer bc of the ergonomics / ports but those are also twice the price of the c70 haha
Yeah lensing is a difficult one, I never really enjoyed the sony lenses and just rocked the sigma 24-70 E by itself on the fx3 and that was a workhorse lens
Right now- I sold my sigma 24-70 for the sony 20-70 f4 primarily for CZcams / event work
I've only used the fx3 for work once and that was general event coverage, so I was okay making that decision
For my c70, I just have my vintage lenses converted to EF, I'm in the processs of trying to find the right cine zooms for my setup. I'm not interested in cine primes as I have a kit of primes already
I've been toying around with the idea of getting the RF24-70 as that lens is insanely good, and it'll be nice to have AF for CZcams stuff
I think adding the RF24-70 + a 2-3 lens kit of cine zooms would be ideal. I'm not too interested in sharing lenses with the fx3 primarily bc the cine zooms will only be used on larger sets and I wouldn't take my fx3 on those
Plus, with both having different sensor sizes, I would have to invest in full frame cine zooms to share, which is fine but those get heavier and more expensive
Right now- I'm looking at the DZO Pictor 3 lens kit and tokina 25-75, 11-20 and 50-135
The video looks beautiful
thank you! love the c70's image
fantastic video! wondering if you sway a certain side if your main work is on IG. trying to focus on IG Reel image quality and feel like i sometimes see really crisp sony videos and not as much canon.
thanks! yeah a bunch of my work actually lives outside of IG- on CZcams, client's website's, amazon pages, etc
The c70 was my go-to for any heavy production unless they request fx3. I felt more comfortable using the c70 for those sets
For smaller jobs the fx3 absolutely crushes, it's so dang versatile. There's also a reason why I sold the c70 and have kept the fx3 for 2-3 years now haha
Right now the KX / FX3 is my setup and it's been so solid. Shooting with the fx3 next week for my biggest job yet- primarily bc they requested sony hah
That said, you can make great / bad stuff with any camera haha. Find something that fits your workflow, needs, budget and preferences. The fx3 is forsure my fav for quick IG stuff, but it's tough to beat the IQ on canon / red
@@thomas.kovacik really appreciate the insight my guy! got any recs for ND filters on the fx3 specifically?
I had a similar mind set for the reason I bought a c70. I love and appreciate all brands being mainly a canon user, I still think Sony kills it with their products especially with low light performance (something canon struggles with) but the form factor and easy of use.
love it! yeah sony has some really insane tech + workflows. Definitely can't go wrong, and it pretty much all comes down to preference with lensing / systems which is great
im in the same, i work with some people with only sony and then others who are only canon, so ive had to have both brands for the past 5 years. with lenses its annoying but its just the cost of business and usually we end up with cinema or vintage as well
true! whatever will make your job easier / get more work, I'm in for
It's nice having your own camera, it makes it easier for people to hire you sometimes
Yeah with cinema or vintage lenses you can adapt to anything, so that's a nice luxury we have.
I dont need to rely on modern lenses for AF, I can have one kit of lenses that is universal
Love the C70
same! it's a fantastic offering
Love my c70 im thinking of getting another one ❤️
love it! no better b cam than an a cam haha
love the insights man. i’ve got a couple questions.
i currently have the A7s iii and love it a lot. however, i’m kind of reaching the next level in my career while also wanting to really branch out with my own independent work/ passion projects (specifically docs and short films). i’ve been eyeing the FX3 because i really want a pure video camera. i would’ve bought the FX3 to begin with honestly, but it wasn’t out a few months before when i bought the A7S. do you think the FX3 would still be a great buy even though it functions very similarly to the A7S? or should i set my sights on an FX6?
the c70 is definitely enticing, but a lot of my work relies on AF, so i have all my sony glass and really don’t have the budget to cop the c70 along with canon glass to go with it. internal ND would be fantastic but honestly it’s not super necessary for what i do (i seem to be a few steps behind you career wise). my clients truly don’t care about internal raw or the negligible image quality boost that internal ND would bring over a VND. it would purely be something that would just be nice for me to have, which i’m not sure would be worth the couple extra thousand an FX6 would cost. not to mention the friendlier/less heavy codecs of the FX3.
i know it sounds like i’m answering my own question lol but would like your thoughts on maybe future proofing with the FX6 since i do want to get deeper into personal filmmaking along with naturally progressing in my client video career, or is the FX3 the better buy since it’s like 85% the same camera….
appreciate any input! i know either camera would be a pretty smart buy. at the end of the day a second body would be ideal to have anyway. maybe make the FX3/FX6 the workhorse and move the A7S3 to a personal/second angle camera. love the content man keep it up!
appreciate it!
yeah that a7siii is a great camera, I know loads of people who depend on it
the fx3 is fantastic, it's very very similar to the a7siii. The big difference now comes with that new firmware they put out - check out my other video about that. There's lots of features that help separate it even more from the a7siii
I love the design primarily, it's smaller, I dont use EVF so I dont miss it, multiple record buttons is welcomed, a big ol fan, tally lights, the list goes on
it's a tough move from the a7siii bc theyre very similar, but I think it could be worth it
the fx6 is an entire different beast, you could also send it towards that and have the a7siii as a b to it
Totally get what you mean about the client's needs, I think you can get by with the a7siii, fx3, and fx6, which is a nice place to be in
the workflow and design of a cinema camera like the fx6 definitely makes things nicer and easier for the operator - exposure tools, shutter angle, internal nd, and the overall feel are much preferred. It is a video camera after all haha, but the a7siii and fx3 get by bc theyre so video focused, they just miss out on a couple key features, which is okay
yeah the idea of making the next camera the workhorse is a good idea! I think it just depends, you could also move to the fx3, save up and add the fx6 so then you forsure have two cameras that function similarly (base iso slog3 on fx3 is same as fx6- a7siii low base is 640)
I would prob add the fx6 personally, if I was in need of internal nd / a more robust camera for shoots- I think the time will come when you are just kinda over working with mirrorless cameras. Until then, I think the fx3 / a7siii is a solid camera to work with!
@@thomas.kovacik thanks a ton for the thoughtful response man. much appreciated!!
2:19 yes!! Rigging a camera just to rig out is not the best option. It's easier for a fully built out straight of the box camera. You don't know until you try one out!
very true! I always had my FX3 rotating through it's setups from minimal, to semi rigged to full rig. It's so nice having flexibility with it! The c70 has been through the same process so far too, it's been nice not having to rely on an external monitor for either of them
@@thomas.kovacik yup especially once you slap on that heavy fatty battery, it defeats the purpose! I always loved using the c100, fs5s, and now the black magic ursa!
Excellent video, so much so this video alone made me a subscriber. I was in the same position and drew a lot of the same conclusions. However, in a sliding doors moment, I went for the FX6. Both the FX6 and C70 are excellent, my factors were the low light performance of the FX6, especially ‘run and gun’ in the doc format, full frame over S35, full XLRs over mini, and I was already part of the Sony ego system. (However this isn’t a factor as such, if the camera is worth it, I’d sell the glass and buy for a new system). But I’d sooner not have to buy glass for two different systems.
FX6 has superior autofocus, but one issue which really worries me, was the purple spot on the speed booster when trying to get that full frame look on the C70, can’t be having that on a shoot.
Plus, the raw thing is a bit of a myth. It’s just a more robust codec. No camera recorded ‘every single ISO’ etc. (check out Alister Campbell for the full details on that) with Catalyst on Sony, you can even change the WB in post.
Either which way, I loved the video. I’ll be watching more. And it did make me wonder… should I have got the c70 over my fx6 🤔
thank you!
100% the fx6 for low light, I love the dual base iso with 800 / 12800 in slog3, it's just absurd how clean it is in 12800 haha
Yeah the fx6 AF is phenomenal - for the purple flare, I only see it in heavy backlight situations where the sun is like center frame haha. I've been using it 100% of the time and it shows up like 1-2% of the time- but totally agree def can't have that on a shoot. I carry the normal adapter incase it becomes more of a problem
Yeah having a 12bit codec is pretty nice! I never change ISO in post with raw, only on my pocket 6k bc of the workflow it required. But I do love changing wb in post if needed
Thank you! Yeah both are incredible cameras, I wish I could have em all haha but the c70 is just something I'm drawn to
Thanks for watching & sharing!
@@thomas.kovacik was a great watch! And at some stage I do intend on buying a camera from a different ecosystem, probably the c70 (which produces a beautiful image and is a great ‘run and gun’ or maybe the RED Komodo, but I see that as more of a studio camera when I can control all variables.
I like the idea of being able to slot into different productions, either with a Canon or Sony cam.
Looking forward to your new content my guy! And Happy New Year from 🇬🇧 👊🏻
@@propellavideo that's a great idea! both the c70 / Komodo would be solid options
I feel the same about the Komodo, I would love one but my jobs haven't really lended myself towards that workflow yet
heck yes having multiple systems like that when thought out well makes a whole lot of sense
Often times people hire out based on your camera, sometimes they dont care so it's nice being an option across the board.
I had a few jobs this year where I got hired out simply bc I had an fx3, not solely bc I'm hoping they hired bc they liked my stuff haha, but it made a big difference in the decision
Appreciate it! Happy new year!
@@thomas.kovacik I’m sure they loved your content; no doubt there! I’ll look for you on insta too. Best David
Magnetic NDs changed my life. Buy step up rings to match all your primes with the same magnetic ring. So your magnetic system works on all lenses. Also, step up rings help you avoid vignetting when stacking filters.
I had magnetic filters from freewell, I didn't really like the image from them. they made my footage feel like plastic. The magnetic mount was nice to work with
NiSi filters have been the best I've used
Just found this video in my research to upgrade as a wedding videographer and this was SO helpful, thank you so much! How reliable do you think the digital image stabilization is with the RF 24-70 image stabilized lens? I'd really love to go fully handheld on a wedding shoot and I'm hoping the c70 will be up for it without to much jittering. Great video!
so rad to hear! Thank you for the kind comment
I wouldn't rely on digital IS, the RF24-70 stabilizes enough! Check out Samuel Elkins field trip ep 2: jared chambers, I shot that all on the c70 + rf24-70 handleld with some tripod shots
What I really dislike with the rf lenses: the Zoom is quite sticky, you cannot Zoom in or out while recording
@@nanookpictures I felt the same about the sony lenses, but haven't experienced that with RF yet! or at least I dont remember that haha
Nice video. I should really do an updated video talking about these two cameras. Like yourself we’ve got both the FX3 and C70.
I wasn’t a big fan of the C70 at first, lots of small frustrations and limitations compared to the FX3 however it’s certainly got better with the updates.
We do sometimes use them together and they match surprisingly well.
Outside of the ND filters and screen I think I still prefer the FX3 however for certain jobs the C70 is definitively better.
appreciate it! Rad, that's a great setup!
Those updates to the C70 are such great additions
Yeah the fx3 definitely is easier to work with all around - the nd filters in the c70 are so convenient though haha
I needed this video… I’ve had the C70 for over a year, i pared it up with the R7 as a b cam.
I’ve been drooling over the FX6 for about 6 months but it’s always been sold out. There’s something about the TEXTURE of Sony video lately that makes it really pleasing.
Last week I called to order the FX30 and they happened to have an FX6 in stock also. So I got the FX6 and FX30. After playing with them for a few hours, I not really feeling the ergonomics of the FX6 and there are way too many buttons for me. Guess I like the simplicity of the C70 for my workflow. Guess the Sonys are going to be returned and I’m sticking to canon.
Ive been thinking about my selling my C70 and R3 and switching to Sony. Everyone is praising Sony and I can't lie it makes you want to make the switch lol. Im getting tired of canon not adding clog 2 and other features to their mirrorless cameras.
I would prob sell the R3 for the FX3 if so, the c70 is a great camera and the fx6 is solid too, but I think you could be happy with the fx3 over the R3
@@thomas.kovacik if you could choose only one camera between fx3 and c70 which would it be? Which do you feel has the better image quality?
FX3 For versatility, c70 for image quality
Would depend on what I need it to do
If I didn’t do CZcams or care about travel filming, 100% c70 every time
@@thomas.kovacik thanks for replying! Would you mind making an updated how you expose for clog 2 on c70? Also would love to see how you graded and edited Sebastian Lletget / A New Chapter (Canon C70 + Contax Zeiss) video.
You made the right choice.
After about 6 months, I can't agree more
I use the pocket 6K pro with a Triton battery attached to the bottom and it allows me to use the monitor on the back of the camera. It make it much more compact. I still use an SSD though but the whole kit is pretty lean.
Yep! That battery is pretty ideal to make things smaller
I've been struggling to pick between these cameras. i can't tell you how much I appreciate this video. You not only sold me on the C70, but gave reasonings that made total sense that I couldn't really find online elsewhere. Thank you! You have a new subscriber. My ONE question for you though: color science wise, do you think canon looks better than BRAW or Sony? Or do those other ones have preferable color science in your opinion?
Appreciate it! Glad you understand where I'm coming from, lots of people get upset that I didn't go sony bc I already own one haha
Sooooo it really depends
I prefer canon for my client work, there's just this depth to the image and the rolloff of the highlights it's just gorgeous
For CZcams stuff, the canon is fine but I for some reason prefer my sony. it's hard to explain but maybe I'm just used to seeing myself with the sony. I really didn't like the canon r5 / r6 footage for some reason, the DR didn't feel as good as my fx3 or c70, so for a mirrorless setup forsure sony
BRAW is great, but I never truly fell in love with it. I really enjoyed it but I think the canon image fits my style more. I do want to try the Ursa 12k at some point, it seems really sick and having internal ND would be helpful (I shot on the p6k and used vnd filters back in the day)
All 3 are amazing, especially nowadays and you can't go wrong
If I had to rank for client work
Canon, BRAW, sony
Sony has always felt a bit "plasticy" to me, unless I use vintage lenses to help the image
That said, I shoot with my fx3 / c70 for my CZcams videos now and they match up pretty well!
hope that's helpful haha
@@thomas.kovacik super helpful, and I appreciate how thorough you were. One more thing I want to ask you about:
I’ve been shopping for a camera that can allow me to have stunning high end images for short films, but when client work arrives I can also rely on it to deliver there. That’s why I was so stuck between c70 and Komodo. Komodo seems to have better image quality, but canon has those things like you mentioned in your video, internal audio NDs, stuff like that.
For what I’m looking to do, I feel like the c70 is the better option, and is definitely
Capable of producing a great image for short films…right? Or, do I spend a bit extra, and use the Komodo for both since the image quality is technically better, and it still has autofocus.
Some advice I’ve seen is to get the cheaper camera and get high end lenses, like Dzofilm. Would you say C70 is the better route for what I’m looking for, or maybe the Komodo might fit better? Your two cents would be appreciated
Sounds like the c70 is the move
Personally I’m not the biggest fan of the RED image, and their cameras kinda require a small team
Sure you can solo op it but having to swap filters, black shade and deal with media doesn’t sound fun solo haha
The c70’s image is gorgeous and there’s loads of codecs for media requirements
I was enticed by the red but after almost 6 months of owning the c70 I’m so happy with it
I could see the need for a c500 or c300 mostly for the build / SDI for bigger sets but that won’t be a move for a little bit
The c70 is super versatile, it’s great
100% invest in good lenses, DZO lenses are good but they’re heavy and long
Vintage glass is solid, the RF lenses are really good too
@@thomas.kovacik do you have any particular brand you recommend for cine lenses on the c70?
@@philrodfilms prob DZO or sigma, tokina too
I’m gonna buy some tokina zooms at some point I think, they’re a bit more recognizable and trusted- same with sigma
DZO is good but still new to the scene and not as “legit” haha
fantastic video! Thanks a lot! In terms of dr and shadow/highlight recovery...what would you say how big is the difference between r5c and c70?
appreciate it!
haven't used that r5c personally, but knowing that the c70 has internal clog2 + that dgo sensor, I'd have to guess that the c70 would have nicer DR / highlight rolloff
I think some people on CZcams have done shadow / highlight recovery videos with both!
Great video. Thank you. I'm going on a run and gun trip following my brother around and wondering if you've ever used the c70 on a gimbal? Do I need one? Also, I know you prefer primes for your glass, but do you have any thoughts on zooms? I'm really trying to travel super light. Again, thanks for this vid. I just subscribed and can't wait to check out the rest of the channel. All the best to ya.
so rad! I haven't personally but you could fly it on the RS3 Pro I think
I never use them for my own work, I love handheld / tripod
Zooms are great too! if you want a small kit the RF24-70 is a great option, or EF24-105 with adapter
Course! Lots more c70 videos on the way
@@thomas.kovacik Thank you. I have both those lenses. Bonus. I just clicked the bell for new posts.
Thanks for your in depth observations and insights, in particular your use case comparisons between the C70 and FX6. Confirmed for me why I've been a C70 user/owner for the past year. PS Became a subscriber today.
appreciate it! That c70 is just so fantastic, I love it
All of your words in this video make perfect sense to me, I’m kinda falling into the same category, looking for a best all around compact cinema camera, FX6 could’ve been my best bet but the handle/only audio input is definitely a deal breaker. URSA mini is a great camera, but again, too bulky for me, c70 is not my type, not a fan of canon’s color science, so, I think I’ll just wait for a while, hopefully Sony come up with a new FX line fix the fx6 issue, or blackmagic to assemble a cube like camera with a better rolling shutter. The pain of using bmpcc6k/6k pro I relate so much the Frankenstein ergonomic and the power consumption are just driving me nuts.
appreciate it! yeah there's lots of nuance between cameras and styles, it's tough when all of them dont line up enough for your needs!
what about a Komodo? that would fix the cube issue of the pocket 6k
Yeah the p6k rigging / power was such a bummer for my needs haha, it's a gorgeous camera but having to carry 6+ LPE6 batteries isn't ideal often times haha
@@thomas.kovacik I have all your contax zeiss except 85. I see we share a lot of common gears, I hate Sony’s digital look so I use contax to reduce that, I don’t really care autofocus and IBIS stuff, I don’t use them anyways on my a7s3, I really love the color on p6k, but the rolling shutter and the ergonomic just suck. Like you said, no perfect camera check all the boxes in your favor, that’s the reality, I heard that Komodo is not very reliable, FX9 is my ideal camera but it’s too big and expensive.
At the moment on the market I don’t have a clear choice. Hopefully blackmagic design can make a good ergonomically built product. Big fan of their color.
love it! those contax lenses are great
the fx9 is definitely an industry standard! lots of productions prefer that camera
@@thomas.kovacik I finally bought a FX6 and I am happy with my decision so far.
So rad! It’s a great camera!
Would you choose the Sony fx3 or the r6 mark ii for documentary/vlog content? For some reason, I enjoy using canon cameras more than Sony. Great Content
Hmm I haven't used that r6 mark 2 yet! the fx3 is a workhorse though, and it's tiny
That r6 mark2 looks interesting bc it's way cheaper, and they have a photo / video setting now
i do a lot of int'l solo travel, which is why i bought the fx3. it fits on my peak design tripod, it fits in my backpack or clips onto my peak design clip on backpack strap. It's such a light, small footprint when traveling.
That being said, it seems like the C70 with built-in audio and nds, would make for an easier experience to make high quality docs out there. Having used both, would you still use the fx3 for int'l solo travel? Or would you bring the C70 with you now? The size /weight / conspicuousness seems like the main deterrent
love the fx3! it’s such a versatile camera
i’m still keeping the fx3 for travel! especially personal
if i’m doing a paid travel shoot, i may consider the c70
it’s definitely a bit bigger and draws more eyes, though it being small for a cinema camera
the fx3 was always my go-to youtube / travel camera. it’s overkill for most, but it’s perfect for my needs haha
Now that the C300III had it's RRP dropped to around £6k, there's a lot of folk considering using it as the a-cam and running the c70 on gimbal/lightweight duties.
yep! those price drops are incredible
makes for a great duo with the c70 / c300 as they share the same sensor, pretty rad!
30:26 to those who still trying to find the camera they want … rent it out and try it to see if it makes your workflow easier or more cumbersome
100% this- I was so sold on the r5 / r6 til working with them for video, they're great as a true b camera for video, but personally I felt they weren't robust enough for my client work. Renting the fx3 was a fantastic decision- if you're doing this as a profession, that few hundred dollars is definitely not wasted
@@thomas.kovacik hell yea I see a lot of people think that the camera they want is the one that’s best for their needs and when they get it they hate it or it doesn’t fit their style of shooting
Having used them both, I haven't seen the dynamic range advantage in C70 I hoped for. I tried pushing them a lot, various lighting conditions, all types of codecs and realized they both have pretty much the same dynamic range, just distributed differently. So, when properly exposed on each, they both yield the same. With that knowledge and knowing FX3 has much better rolling shutter performance and having wider field of view, I've sold the C70. Contemplating a used C500 ii or Alexa XT. But just happy with FX3 by itself. If oscar winner Greg Fraser (of Dune, Batman etc) can shoot an entire Hollywood sci fi movie on FX3, we are kidding ourselves if we really think we need more to be better.
That's interesting. Well Gareth Edwards did shoot his first feature with the old EX3 with a 35mm Letus adaptor and some cheap Nikon primes, so maybe shooting on a modest Sony camera again appealed to his indie roots.