John Calipari is 'BEHIND THE CURVE!' - Greenberg says Kentucky's LOSS is UNACCEPTABLE | First Take
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- On First Take, Stephen A. Smith and Seth Greenberg join Molly Qerim to discuss Kentucky's 80-76 loss to Oakland in the NCAA Tournament. Then, Andraya Carter joins to discuss if Caitlin Clark should be considered the greatest of all time if Iowa wins the NCAA National Championship.
0:00 Has John Calipari underachieved?
4:30 Stephen A. says "John Calipari is soft!"
6:30 Would winning an NCAA Title make Clark the G.O.A.T?
9:00 Stephen A. debates with Andraya Carter
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Stephen A. hit the nail on the head with this one. Cal always blaming players being too young, not enough experience. YOU are the coach. That is YOUR responsibility to prepare them and build the right team. Just brings in talented players and expects it to work out, then takes no accountability. Cal and Barnhart need to be fired
Forget that, Nick Saban and Kirby Smart have had had crazy roster turnover the last 10 years with young players and still have won a ton of national championships. The differences is they are great recuriters AND can actually coach x and o
@@sahilpatel5412 I agree. For years Calipari used his recruiting as leverage for his success. But now that recruiting has changed with NIL & transfer portal he is getting exposed as just a recruiter and not a coach
@@sahilpatel5412 that's like comparing apples to cucumbers. In college they have to stay in school 3 years
@@aycee3564dude don’t you dare downplay the fact that Reeves Rob Reed Wagner & Bradshaw & Z WILL be draft picks. it’s excuses tbh
@sahilpatel5412 no the real difference is football players stay at least 3yrs and bball players at ku leave after a year which makes it easier to build chemistry
Calipari looking like the doc rivers of college basketball
Took U Mass, a program that has returned to the unnoticeable, to a Final Four. Took Memphis, a program that has returned to being unnoticeable to a Final Four. In fact, the All-American player missed 3 free throws in the final minute. In the championship game against Connecticut, Kentucky shot 13 -24 from the line. This is part of the game. To hear Greenberg speak of Cal being too cool us hilarious. His teams at Virginia Tech couldn't even get an invite to a 64 team, NCAA field.
Grown men, 24 and 25 years old, playing in an amateur tournament with 18 year olds is a travesty. As ridiculous as Stetson Bennett leading Georgia at 25. Total mockery of amateur status and collegiate atmosphere. Cal probably does need to add older players since it's allowed. Disgusting.
How is belichick a good coach Doug Pederson beat the #1 ranked defense in nfc championship game and patriots in super bowl with nick foles throwing to Jeffries and agholor then followed that up the next year with another playoff run with foles and was a Jeffries dropped catch away from winning back to back Super Bowls with a backup.
@@randallmadison9910Exactly. These all senior teams are dropping left n right. I think Cal needs to keep the mixture of upperclassmen and freshmen and be harder on them. Dont baby them or anything.
@@randallmadison9910A: you’re talking about thing s that happened 10+ years ago. B: he’s had the opportunity to get the older guys in the portal, he’d rather get the one-and-dones. C: Why do people like you always bring up Stetson Bennett, and not Joe Milton or Hendon Hooker who were 24-25 when they played???????
@@zachcoggins9018 Bennett makes my point. It's fact. Really don't watch college football. I like th NFL.
To a lesser degree UNC? More championships than duke…more hall of famers, more national players of the year, more ACC championships, #1 seed, beat duke twice this year. Check yourself Steven A
Duke didn’t become relevant til the 90s! Before Coach K it was only really UNC and NC State that was relevant in the state
Cheryl Miller was different
Facts
UK is the Dallas Cowboys of college basketball
Not that bad lol, at least Kentucky has won 4 chips in the last 30 years, the Cowboys have zero in 28 years. But yeah as long as a John is the coach and the one and done system is their motto then they won’t win anything in this era.
False
Not even close. Everytime this happens Kentucky rehires and wins. They are the only program to have 5 different coaches win national titles. Theyre the only program who knows how to sustain well past their founder and well past their last championship coach. I remember hearing “Kentucky is Notre dame” during Florida’s run then bam Kentucky reloads and dominated. You cannot kill that program. It’s not even a close comparison to the cowboys I’m not sure where people are getting this.
To a lesser degree unc... who just earned their 18th #1 seed which is a record. Sas show some respect when you mention UNC. Period
Also, credit to Greg Kampe and the Oakland Golden Grizzlies for playing a great game against Kentucky. Give the underdogs some credit.
Oakland wasn't even favored to win the Horizon League tournament despite being the 1 seed. The oddsmakers had Cleveland State and Wright State ahead of them. This wasn't about Oakland winning the game as much as it was about Kentucky's freshmen embarrassing their school.
@@RobbieStacks90 Yeah, they're young and underperformed, but that doesn't take away from the result. Oakland won, they're in round 2, and earned their respect.
@TimberwolfTaylor13 Uk fan here.. Oakland balled out and played better. Goodluck in the next round
@@pmontyjaaaymes488 I appreciate it, man. Good luck to y'all next year. Y'all have some ballers in that program. Much respect.
you wanna know what I all heard yesterday?
“Back to the Coal Mines buddy!”
“Good ole Kensucky!”
“0-3 for the SEC and Cal falls flat on his face”
“Kentucky will be the first one to lose to Texas & OU next year!”
“You’re stuck with him for the next 5 years! Your AD is helping your opponents! LOL”
- every SEC coach currently has beaten Cal except Missouri
- the standard of UK basketball is gone
- about 12 NBA players since the last sweet 16 appearance
- quit defending the definition of insanity
- fire the AD & Cal ASAP or season ticket holders WILL sell their tickets and it’s been said by MANY
How is belichick a good coach Doug Pederson beat the #1 ranked defense in nfc championship game and patriots in super bowl with nick foles throwing to Jeffries and agholor then followed that up the next year with another playoff run with foles and was a Jeffries dropped catch away from winning back to back Super Bowls with a backup.
A big part of the problem with teams like Kentucky, is that players are sold on showcasing their talent to the NBA rather than having loyalty to the winning tradition of the school. In other words, many of the Kentucky players could care less about yesterday's loss because several of them will either be in the NBA or G-league this time next year. Soon after the loss yesterday, the University of Kentucky was an after thought for several of their players! Most teams that are now winning NCAA basketball championships have a few upperclassmen who have stayed in school and built chemistry enough to win championships. Yes, some of Cal's coaching is problematic but, the system that has been created for these guys is a bigger problem.
nah the buck stops at the head coach duke and unc deal with the same parameters
Greatest women college basketball player 🤔.... Have you heard of Maya Moore or Chamique Holdsclaw
Maya Moore is the greatest women’s basketball player I have ever seen. (I’m 29)
The woman is 595-95 in her career from HS to the WNBA.. only played 8 pro seasons and won 4 championships. Won 2 national championships in college.. if she didn’t retire early this wouldn’t even be a discussion
Edit : she also has 3 championships in the WCBA ( China )
2 Europe League Championships & 1 Liga (Spain) championship
💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍
I totally agree
She’s the only woman in my lifetime that has ever even made me consider the possibility that a woman could play against the men
@@jamiethomas5849 watch hs britney griner. she was putting up like 6-10 blocks along with 30 20 and 8 ast. she hurt her stock saying she would beat prime boogie lmao
But the rest of her team was also loaded. That UConn team would be beating the 2nd and 3rd ranked team in the country by 40 points. They played 7th ranked Louisville in 09 in the conference championship game and beat them like 70-35😂
@@jamiethomas5849 She'd get destroyed by high school players
It's not just "adjusting" to college basketball. I'm from Kentucky and have said it since they got him ...HE CANNOT COACH. X's O's are not his forte and it is painfully obvious..I watch every game and he doesn't do things a lower level high school coach knows to do. Yesterday his team was shocked Oakland ran a zone defense and they played zone ALL YEAR. it's like he didn't watch one second of film on the team he was playing. He's a clown. Politician with a whistle and gotta go.
To a lesser degree North Carolina! Tar Heels have 3rd most titles in history plus most final four appearances and won a title in the last four decades plus made it to the finals in this decade and one a title way back in the day! North Carolina is the top blue blood school along with Kansas
Been saying Cal was a good recruiter not a good coach for 10 years now.
He’s a players coach and gets a lot of guys to the league, but and X’s and O’s is not his best strength.
He has always been a lousy in-game coach. The age excuse ignores the fact that Tre Mitchell and Antonio Reeves are 5th year players. Ivisic was a freshman in academic terms, but was 21 and playing in a professional league for two years. Also, not all his guys go to the league. Bryce Hopkins, Keion Brooks, and Sahvir Wheeler were good college players this year. He moves on from guys, because he always wants to chase the next big thing. He can't have it both ways. If you are going to give up on guys who don't make it right away, you can't complain about being young when you lose. All his "I want to help kids" thing ignores the ones he either runs off or loses interest in. Some of them end up developing into players who are better than freshmen.
Yo they be shading Kareem so bad in college basketball
Kareem the greatest college athlete ever forget what these MFS saying .
So we just gonna forget about Maya Moore?? 😑
"Swaggy Cal" love that!!! 😂😂😂
The players are definitely a huge part of the problem. In 2012, he had a core of returning players such as Doron Lamb, Darius Miller, and Terrence Jones without which he couldn't have won the championship or even made the Final Four. One and dones have ruined many teams' seasons. OJ Mayo at USC and Kevin Durant at Texas were distractions to their teams. Austin Rivers was the reason Duke lost to McCollum and Knutson's Lehigh team. Jabari Parker is the reason Duke lost to Mercer. Washington caused Kentucky to lose to St. Peter's. Never recruit someone who has his eyes on the NBA from the second he sets foot on campus.
You spoke straight truth. The players come to Kentucky to take the next step to the league, which in turn can hurt the program if not run correctly. Like an old coach once said "play for the name on the front to take care of the name on the back". Some kids don't play for that anymore and Cal rarely has guys return the next year, and this year he has guys that actually need to come back. Most of these dudes aren't NBA ready, Rob Dillingham is probably the only guy, and Antonio reeves that is NBA ready. If he can start a new trend getting these young five star talents to comeback for a second or even 3rd year in some circumstances with NIL and such he might be able to get back to winning. But until then he also has to look in the mirror and see that he needs to make a better effort in the X's and O's aspect as well. It's a shame because he has let his players first mentality destroy what he has built at Kentucky.
As a Kentucky resident and lifelong Kentucky fan this man is PREACHING. Cal has gotten lazy and has been coasting.
Calipari has all skills to be a great coach with deep runs and high seeds. His roster is loaded. His team is young but it also had 2 of probably the 10-15 best super seniors this year.
He fails as a coach cause he doesnt put in college basketball coach hours anymore. While other guys are studying film late night and running analylitics on the portal he's clocking out at 5p and going home to his favorite chair hugging and tub of Utz mini prezels to watch a marathon session of ice road truckers
Calipari should have at least 3 national championships with the players he’s had over the years multiple NBA all stars
Should but a lot of those players be 17 and 18 years old players that lose to more experience teams. That’s what the tournament is about. Back in Memphis, Coach Cal had guys that stayed a few seasons and now days it’s all about going to the league and getting NILs
He would if kentucky got the whistle that teams like duke and kansas get. Funny how you npc's still act like sports arent rigged.
@@bradfaulkner9597 it’s not, you just said the refs, what about the players??
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@@1muneymicHe had no problems with beating up on freshmen teams in the first half of his career here. Those teams were freshmen. They beat Kansas for the Title. Seniors. They beat OSU to go the Final Four with some freshmen. They went to the Natl title game in 2014 with starting 5 of freshmen. If they hit there free throws they win that game. Fox, Monk, Murray, Townes, Davis... All of those guys put in work and made runs in the tourney. This team was riddled with injuries all yr. Finally get healthy and still might not have been 100%. But the players had to set out a lot of games. The lineups have been off all yr. Cal has underachieved in Uk fans expectations. But thats Uk fans and that will always be the case. No matter the coach.
The pretty light skin girl loses the argument when she tries to compare men’s to women it’s Kareem and it’s not even close Kaitlyn is not even the best women’s player of all time, even even if she wins.
Juwan Howard is available
Diana Taurasi was a beast at UConn. She had a pretty shot and man when she shot the ball it was lights out. No wonder they called her the White Mamba!😊
These young kids are young remember this. This is what John calipari says as a excuse for losing games. We need a real coach
Out of all the NBA All Stars that he has recruited and coached at Kentucky he should have as many national championships as Nick Saban did and college football. From Karl Anthony Towns, DeMarcus " Boogie" Cousins, Devin Booker, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Adebayo, Willie Cauley Stein, Nerlens Noel, John Wall, and as well as Anthony Davis who you did win a national championship with which is your only one. Of course they were countless others that he coaches well. There are no excuses. I think it probably is time for Coach Cal to go. He has way under achieved especially all the NBA level talent he done coach that he helped get into the NBA
Jamal murray
Most of these guys did not go their to win championships. They went there because the NBA rules made them. They new they could showcase their talent for a year on a "big stage" that Kentucky provides but, win or lose they would be making millions after one year!
Doesn’t work that way in ncaa basketball, the players in college football stay multiple years and you can stockpile 30/49 5 stars. Also it’s much harder to win the title, you have to win 6 straight games on the road in a bracket.
She was reaching way to hard to make a point about Clark.
Kentucky really didn't play any defense all year and that was there downfall
Calpari is doc river in the ncaa only one chip to show for it
Another issue is that these kids that Cal recruits are looking to be one and done and have all the talent in the world to be a possible NBA player. The issue with getting a team like that with multiple superstars is that they're going to ball hog and try to show their skills and offense instead of doing the team fundamentals like passing, playing defense, not forcing shots, etc.
Diana Taurasi took that 04 championship team kicking and screaming to the championship
Caitlin Clark. I’m tired of all this convo. I’m just being honest. The 3 ball has watered down the game.
Okay gramps
@@expressvpn8433it has......it's one upsmanship that often bricks an aint nobody but the 2014 spurs cashed in on exalting the three.....something only possible because of Duncan. The 3 is a weapon, not food.
Hold up with the Caitlin stuff. She does a lot more than score the ball. C C has handles and high level distribution skills. The woman makes players better too.
Stephen A got a Jherri curl😂
Who cares what teammates Breanna Stewart or Cheryl miller had ?? lol it’s a team sport but their individual talent is undeniable 😂😂
ESPN gives Clarke more segments than the women who actually won the championship last year
Becuase she’s better?
1 championship in 32 years is crazy entitlement and privilege. Time to retire or get fired.
I love the SAS and Andraya banter back and forth... We need more that this.. And she is very knowledgeable and can go back and forth with SAS. And she can bring shine to women's basketball...
This was a great back and fourth about the GOAT College Player. Andrea made a great point about the teams that Taurasi, Miller and Stewart had. They were phenomenal teams with a lot of good to great pro players. SA also made a great point that even though they had those great teammates, their greatness rose above them all.
If Cal has any honor or class he will accept a lowered buyout and leave UK by the end of this tournament. We in Kentucky are sick of him and deserve much better.
Its SAS who is behind the curve. Uconn has just as many titles with three different coaches as Duke and Kansas has as many final appearances over a longer period of time!
He really ranked Duke and Kentucky as top blue bloods…Carolina and Kansas r the original blue bloods I’d put UConn and Duke in the same 2nd blue blood class along with Indiana UCLA and Kentucky
"behind the curve." what a funny way of saying completely unprepared.
Calipari: “Hey, can’t you guys just go out there and 5 Star??”
She talked about UConn players and what they did in the WNBA. We don’t know what Caitlyn teammates will do so save your argument and bring it back up in 15 years. But to kill this argument Caitlyn won’t win a National Championship
I’m glad Calipari is finally being called out for the nonsense marketing he does in replace of winning. It’s meant to do 1 thing, change his standard because he’s losing that’s it. And those players would have been wealthy wherever they went minus a few maybe. He’s taking credit for AD being a millionaire and he doesn’t need to get away with it. What about the many players who he pushed out and didn’t end up anywhere? How many are those? The fact is you have to win big at Kentucky or you are replaced. End of story.
Cal has to start hitting the tranfer portal to recruit players from smaller schools like Oakland to get a mix of old and young players
Yessir. The cal teams at kentucky that were best 2012 and 2015 were defensive teams! Big, tough lock down players and rim protectors!
Louisville and Kentucky isnt looking good..
As a louisville fan atleast we have or had however you look at it, won the most recent natty in 2013
I think this is the very first time i have agreed with Stephen A!!!! BBN is ready for a new leader
Kentucky should be more than a conveyor belt for the NBA
Seth... Coach Cal is gunning for your spots on Get-Up and First-Take!
Blue Bloods in order
1.Carolina
2.Kansas
3.Kentucky
4.Duke
5.Indiana
6.UCLA
7.UCONN
He cannot make his players do what they need to..
Hats off to Oakland..
You cant let one player cook you, let oakland off. rebound out of their mind in the same game, and still be called a great coach. i dont care. you have to at least shut down one of those in a timeout talk. period.
After Kentucky won the championship, they missed the tournament completely, after starting the season as the #1 team. Then they got beat by Oral Roberts in the first round of the NIT. When you’re recruiting players that are focused on going immediately to the NBA, you have to hope for lightning in a bottle. How do you build a culture or an identity when half your roster changes every year? Calipari needs to change his recruiting strategy.
He been behind the curve 💯
Cal needs to quit worrying about putting kids into the NBA and have some of them come back they can get paid from the NIL deals now. The 2015 team is a prime example of what could be if he had some of these kids come back instead of worrying about putting them into the NBA. I believe he can turn things around he's just going to have to change his style a bit. Like I said these kids can make millions from NIL deals now so there's no need to worry about the NBA.
People are quick to blame Cal but his players straight up choked this year
He gots freshman that have nvr been in those situations. You can’t blame him, you gotta blame the immaturity of his players
Caitlin is already, what she has accomplished on the court.
I think everyone is forgetting that Kentucky’s roster on ‘21-‘22 team was its oldest in program history since the 1950s and they still were bounced by St. Peter’s in the first round. It may not entirely be due to youth and inexperienced players. Just saying.
You can’t say Mj isn’t the goat cause he had Scottie. That’s why I think Taurasi or Stewart is the goat
Calipari for year's mastered recruiting one and done NBA caliber players which is what led to the success of the basketball program. As time went on that magic he had has gone away and the top players in the country lining up to sign up with KY are going to other teams because now players make money prior to possibly getting drafted through sponsorship and endorsement deals. Unfortunately times have changed the way college players stay committed and lastly now many players are entering transfers portals like crazy John got alot of work to do to turn this entire program around
Give me a hungry young guy like Golden at Florida.
Bro calling her the greatest college basketball player ever is insane 😅
How about stop having a team full of freshmen. Idk who's on their roster but they usually have alot of freshmen..
Turasi better.. stop it..
Caitlin Clark over Kareem Abdul Jabbar? Bullshyt, lol
Marcus Camby was the key for his win
If iowa had a stacked team like uconn and SC, she would have at least 2 rings
John calipari get ready to learn SEC network analyst buddy
Of course he underachieved all this talent he get every year and only 1 championship ? Also it’s one thing to lose to the big time schools but Oakland? Come on
She arguing Stephen A Smith's points against him about the kobe thing but using it in a wnba context ....smart...steven a hypocrite yo...shout out to shaq too...got guest pickin stephen apart
You can NOT compare WBB to MBB, Pistol Pete played without a 3 pt line
Kentucky has new freshmen almost every year! It’s very hard to win a Natty with freshmen… coach Cal is doing fine. His goal is not a natty it’s to get the kids to the NBA. He’s said that many many times
He does not recruit to win championships. He needs to recruit for guys to play at least two years for him
Hurley's dad could get a winner at Kentucky he knows how to coach
He needs to play more players not just 8 players
"Cal needs to go back to old Cal" ..NO, Cal needs to retire, the game has passed him by.
Did Coach Cal win the Natty in the past or did I miss something? For all this talk of his rough past etc.... He did not WIN a National championship until he got to Kentucky with the best players.
Sheryl miller tbh that’s a great argument like for the 25 and up people we all love Reggie miller top shooter all time etc etc his sister was better than him in every aspect of the game he openly spoke about this I like the miller rebuttal a lot
Cheryl Miller 🐐
Cal is one of the all time greats! But, he can’t keep great teams together!
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉Oakland California 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Stephen A is not lying but tbh I watched the whole game, the missed a lot of open shots and the kid made 10 threes 8 of em’ was tuff shots. Cal did his job
It’s been multiple seasons of the same thing. Not just 1 game. This team underachieved all season.
@@andrewjacob4241 it’s hard to win with a bunch of freshmen and it’s very hard to win in college without experience. These guys was a few amazing shots out this game. It’s not been a coaching thing on the court, it’s more off the court things. We could say the same for Penny Hardaway
Calipari is a criminal lol 😂
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“To a lesser degree, the Carolinas”
Carolina’s won more than Kentucky over the last twelve years, and had more championships overall. 😂
Young Roster? But doesn't hesitate to send your young roster to the NBA after one year. Calipari is one and done, doesn't care about national championships.
Cal fired his best X/O guy, Robic. That’s why cal sucked. Cal has never been a good coach but relied on robic to take care of coaching part of his job.
One thing I’m not getting is the fact that y’all haven’t said anything about Oakland and giving them the propers. Big them kids names up because they was the 14th seed. It’s always politics.
I like Steven A more and more
If AI won a chip against Shaq and Kobe people would have counted like 2 😂 because he was carrying the team
Clark carrying her team, so her chip would feel like two 😂
When speaking about Caitlin Clark, please leave any comparison to mens college basketball players out of your mouth. It cheapens Caitlin's accomplishments because it reminds folks that she ain't playing against men. Let her be great in her own lane. She is great in her own lane, but not in the mens' lane. Caitlin could not make the roster of any division one mens basketball team - we all know that! When you compare Caitlin's performance to mens' performances you make it harder for biological women to keep biological men out of their competition.
Lesser Degree the North Carolinas??????? nah
it was time to move on a long while ago
It’s called march madness for a reason. I don’t understand the criticism over a 1 game elim tournament. If you want the top talented teams to go all the way move to a series formatted playoffs.
He loss in the 1st game to 14th and 15th seed in consecutive years, and only champion since he been to Kentucky while having the best NBA talent by far. Thats not good
yeah you know nothing then sir
@@mmbeasthen they can fire him I’m sure they would be happy too
@@brxndaveli5834 Not that simple. They would owe him 33 million dollars. That's the reason why they haven't let him go yet....stay tuned!
Sheryl Swoops!
Coach Cal is under paid. He only makes a gazillion times more than the Governor of Kentucky and the entire staff at UK.
Cal is the #1 paid public official in the entire state.
Boy do we need to get our heads examined.
Clark is absolutely not better than Karem Abdul-Jabbar college-wise, and I don’t think anyone will ever over achieve what he did, regardless if she wins a championship. She still deserves a huge amount of respect, but let’s be fair here
Yeah, Kareem is on a Rushmore all by himself. 3 high school championships. 3 college championships. And his 6 NBA championships. Caitlin is without a doubt a phenom.
Stephen A 💯