Who makes the most accurate air rifle barrel ?
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- čas přidán 23. 01. 2023
- Im preparing the Anschutz 9015 to run slugs out to long ranges,75 and 100 yards in sub12.
I attempt to find which of the CZ s200 , Anschutz 9015 and lothar Walther barrels is the most accurate with the slugs i plan to use.
the slugs i have are zan in 10 grain.
the scope used is an optisan cp at 12x magnification - Sport
Thank you for putting in so much work for us to see , for myself I do not intend using slugs but this is so interesting 😁
The plan is being able to consistently get it to run accurately at 75 and 100. No doubt I could get a few lucky shots off now and call it a win but I want to get a setup that I can do it reliably with.
I've alot more things to try out going forward. It's all fun 😉
Excellent video andas always, extremely interesting. Looking forward to the next one 👍!
I never shoot slugs with a choked barrel ,but it is good to try .Thanks for your efforts.
Great video again.. getting a group at that distance looks quite challenging. . but with the right barrel and batch of slugs they are crazy accurate... looking forward to future videos great stuff
Hi Andy, it is definitely possible but getting everything just right, especially with slugs is going to be tricky. Not least I'll have to be on point dealing with the wind. Even if I fail it'll still go on the channel😉
The slugs have a tight fit, but it also looks so be starting to spin occasionally giving the target that oblong hole.
Interesting video, thank you. You mentioned cleaning then polishing your barrel, please could you show or explain the process that you use for polishing.
I found with my katran and vixen the katran wasn't great at all but the vixen was pretty good with them when turned up to get the speed up but it put pellets a fair bit over
I'm going to build a slug barrel and loading probe for the katran in the spring.mine won't load the slugs consistently over the barrel oring..
Clamped down at our indoor range at 25yds my Feinwerkbau 800 didn't group it shot through the same hole every time. Wasn't all that pellet fussy either until we tried the cheaper gammo, milbro ect. Would be nice too see how far I could take it but 25 is the full length of the range.
I've owned several Anschutz, Steyr, Walther over the last 25 years and have been very pellet fussy. The FWB800 is the only rifle I've had true pellet on pellet performance spanning over a variety of pellet brands and head sizes. The POI changes from say JSB to Bisley but each pellet always follows the first.
I think your going to find 12ftlb lacks the velocity to offer repeatable slug performance at those greater distances. It's hard enough with FAC rated. Too fast and those smaller calibers corkscrew with the excess of turbulence.
Even in ideal conditions weight, distance and velocity is a fine balancing act I'm afraid.
Hi john, the hard part isn't making the velocity. 680-700 fps is ample to get the slugs running nicely. Me and the boys are already running the slugs past 80yds accurately.my mate has them grouping 4" at 150 yds currently on a different platform.sub 12. But the challenge is keeping the pellets sub12 whilst keeping the slugs around 700fps. There a lot of things we've learnt so far,but finding the barrels of the right twist rate is not as easy as you'd think.
Its a complete myth that they need the high speeds to perform. I'll cover it all when I get chance😉
@@tillysgunstocks I don't think it's a myth as such, I'm sure they perform just fine at a reasonable distance. Keeping sub12 700 FPS your restricted to those 10 grains the 13s would have you around 14ftlb. 10 grains is a very lightweight projectile in any form. I guess it depends what you consider accurate at the target of 100 yards. For me an accurate rifle is within 1MOA. Thats in ideal conditions with the gun clamped of course. I do hope you achieve your goal, but I think even with a good spin 10 grains at 700fps the resistance alone makes it incredibly difficult for you.
I'm probably wrong to do so but always washed my pellets then dried by rolling in a warm towel and a little bees wax as lube
they always ran nicely
that said that was a springer :)
have a great say :)
very interesting results mate . definitely a bit of inconsistency in the batch of slugs like you say. will be a fun time out at distance that’s for sure 😱😱😱
Yeah mate I'm not entirely convinced with this particular batch of slugs, but I'll stick at it😉
Hello, excellent review, my rifle is set to a speed of 340-345 meters per second and I noticed that up to the distance where the bullet maintains the speed of sound, the grouping is stable, but after losing the speed of sound and switching to pre-sound, unstable groups begin, and I always take this into account now😯
What you are experiencing, is hitting the transonic barrier which causes pellets/bullets to tumble a little. Try running your rifle subsonic. You’ll find it’ll be more consistent at longer ranges
Yes, thank you, but I’m not a paper shooter, I hunt and it happens that you value every joule of energy to reliably kill game. Now I understand that the influence of the trans sound barrier knocks down the point of impact after 70 meters and I try to crawl closer. After the war, I'll take the 323rd 💪✌😯
Some of those slugs went through side ways groups ok but my hw77 can get the same groups,at 30/45 yrds tuned of course but im on the clubs shooting team going up,against fx and daystates no problem,for my 30 year old,springer feinw barrel hft stock ,but id like a shoot lf your fine looking riffle
I hate to see such a long barrel unsupported on the end when there is a tank sleeve it could be braced to for more stability. That thin barrel may be vibrating a little and a brace may help.
The BSA barrel on my Daystate CRX is awesome.
The stainless steel barrel on the Steyr LG110FT has to be cleaned every 200 pellets or accuracy suffers.
Hi Noethy, sorry for bothering, but can I ask who do You give Your CRX to service? I own one in ft stock by Paul Wilson and currently looking for someone with experience in servicing those
@@PASZCZORSKI mine has always been sent to Daystate.
My Impact FX 25 cal barrel needs to be cleaned after every 50 shots or it will lose accuracy at 100 yards plus.
After i turned my reg up to 200 bar the barrel has got so badly fouled i cannot get it clean even after pulling 150 patches.
@@threekblack217 I use Parker Hale Youngs 303 to clean my barrels. Yes its good for airgun barrels too
Are you going to try any varieties of "pellet" lube as part of the testing? Possible it could help with consistency.
At this stage no, the slugs are inconsistently sized for these particular barrels and the way the 9015 loads. I will try some through a sizer next ,and then once I've got some Consistency look at lube amongst other things 😉
A very interesting video, do you know what energy the slugs are producing? 👍
They will all have been sub 700fps. Late 600s for around only 10.6 ish ftlb. The friction In the barrel drops the speeds a fair bit over pellets.but they give around the same drop as an equivalent weight pellet despite the slower speeds
Was the Lothar Walther barrel Riffled or Polygonal ?
FWB make the best i've used .
Where’s to buy the gun from, can you provide website or the links to get it,please? Thanks
put some proper lead through the CZ s200 barrel please
Would you think these are worth trying in a FX impact mk 11 sub 12 I normally B Mags for hunting and get good results out to 50 Mt
Hi mate,check out a few of my slug videos from last summer. When they are a good fit in the barrel they can perform incredibly.but there's alot of inconsistencies in the ammo still
its hard to say what is the best brand or barrel , if they a brand making a batch of 100 barrels, only 1 is the best overal .95 are good to ,,and 4 rejects testing barrels its almost not to do . only conclusion can be what works for you in that setup with most pellets and slugs tested and settings, in the springer time only pellets where to test😀👍👍
Looks like the slugs are revolving in the air. A##E over T#T
Hi,
Just wondering who machines the barrels for you, I'm considering re-barreling my impact sick of the poi shift with the liner system it's a really nice gun but the poi keepsmoving mid way through comp cards and the like.
My streamline stx is the same. That's why I've not used it for a few years now.
I machine up my own barrels, but I'm still very much an amateur on the lathe but I'm learning 😉
Let me know if you fancy a go at turning a barrel to fit an impact.
The cz barrel likes jsb exaact pelletes and if itss a. 22 cal use 18.13 grain im a cz owner
I'm not totally sure but I think, if I understood him correctly, that with these slug's we don't have the luxury of purchasing via the guidance of a barcode or even a batch number 😮 However I strongly recommend that you don't just read my comment but actually go ahead and watch the video in full to see if you too arrive at the same conclusion..
PS I will just add that if you do indeed arrive at a different conclusion than myself and you're sure of your work and findings I would be interested to see, thanks
My fac 37ft weihrauch hw100 gets me sub moa at 100yds with 600mm hw barrel, pellets or slugs
Best will be barrel from taipan weteran
Ho mate which gun is more accurate for you the 9015 or the xti50
There's not a lot in it, the xti has a slight edge which is pretty impressive considering the amount of work it took to get the 9015 working properly.custom fitted alutec stock and all the mods.Bar a few cosmetic tweeks the xti is totally standard. I'm absolutely sure when I can sort a chassis stock for the xti and make it fit me a little better , I'll be able to shoot it better still.😉
My 30 year old Air Arms NJR100 at 25 yards with crossman premier dye2 would smash those groups
BSA make the best barrels bar none!!
Bsa do make some fantastic barrels, ive used loads over the years in my comp rigs.
But in this instance with the slugs being the primary ammo for this project, the twist rates of the bsa are unlikely to be what I need going forward.Anschutz and Walther have a much larger range to choose from 😉
Never knew it was such a bad thing to put a lead pellet in your hands.
Odd how they shred the paper rather than punch clean holes
They leave little grey circles before they bust through the targets.its really odd.
I've got some more new slugs on the way to try out and the new scope arrived in readiness for some longer range work when the winds down 😉
The papers too thin there's not enough tension for a clean hole.
@@johntrott9513true. I always use a bit of card from a cereal box just for tension behind.
all good but not good enough for most accurate this title
100 yards with slu g s.min sub 12...u asking a lot...accuracy.....ummmmmm