After jumping around a bit, I finally decided to start at the beginning. My INFP brain is a little overwhelmed (I could use some visual reinforcement - looking forward to white board!), but find it all so interesting. Thanks!
This is pire gold! I just wanted to thank you for doing this 👍🏻 I'm at a crossroads and was depressed for my entire life cause neither my family nor myself accepted me for who I was (lots of childhood trauma). After many years of struggle with therapists only giving temporary relief it finally starts to make sense. Finally someone makes logical arguments for what is going on with me. Once again, thank you. You do really make the difference. Keep it up!
I am at the point where i commited to watching all your theory videos, and learn as much as possible about mbti theory even though this is definitely not included in my major :")
I was wondering, can u make videos for all the eight functional slots as well?? I mean, i understand what Ti is, but still can't predict how a Ti child will behave(stuffs like that). So can u make a playlist where u discuss, for ex. only about the trickster and how different functions work in the 7th slot, similarlly how functions work as demon etc??
ISTP here. Going to consume this, make notes and develop a Second Brain rivalling C.S Joseph so I can conquer the world. Veni vidi vici. Understanding is power when applied with critical thinking. Let's change the world- it all starts with changing yourself.
I watched some of your videos at first in the last several days. Now I decided to binge watch from the start. I like understanding frameworks and making use of them your channel is like a big feast of data wow!
At around 3:58 a realization hit me. I don’t have a background in psychology or mathematics, so I actually have no grounds or advanced level information to prove this, but there are 8 cognitive functions (which create the 16 types) and I’m sure it’s somehow tied to the fact that in the world of computers/electronics, everything is based off 8 also (8 bit, 16 bit, 32 bit… 128G, 256G, 512G). I wonder why 8 is the basis of both the development of the human mind as well computers.
Season1 episode 2 on this journey of 2 years to go in order. I have bounced around with many views,. Even with C.S. Joseph. I am documenting as I go. I hope nobody minds😊 Thanks!
Impressive. I started to learn MBTI and then trace the way to your contents. Your clear the doubt about oversimplification of MBTI, and I like your approach and understanding more than any other you tubers so far.
You lost me a bit when you say the sperm provides the skull and spine? A sperm and a egg combine into a one-celled structure known as a zygote, which goes on to divide into 100 cells, part of which comprises a 'mesoderm' which directly grows into a spine.
absolutely love this channel!! but sth confuses me is that after I've watched videos of INTJ, INFP, ISTJ, and ENTP, I feel like I can resonate with all of these 4 types
"People who attack the child side of mind". I've been diving deep into DV/IPV and that just struck me. If i know me enough and know that part of me and my gut says this perso is trying to manipulate me vis these functions I show... I have the upper hand. 😉
I wanted to do the 16 personality test for fun and got ISFP (3 times) and ISFJ (1 time). I later found out it was inaccurate for many reasons. A person on reddit recommended your video (season 15) to how to do it yourself. That one video was enough to convince me to learn to know more about myself and to be better at socializing and communicating with others. I'm at the beginning of a looooong journey but I'm willing. I struggled so much with interacting with people because I simply do not know how. I think I have a better chance now and will be teaching my siblings. Thank you for all of this valuable information and time you have put in to educate us. Your personality is a cherry on top tho🤣🔥✨ always manages to make me laugh😁😎🥳
2:58 sperm provides the skull and central nervous system? it's not how sperm and egg work according to biology though. Why would you say that? Are trying to mean that 'mind' / 'soul' / life comes from the sperm?
I'm gonna watch all your videos starting with the oldest and work my way to the new ones. I really enjoy your thoughts. Do you think a certain type can retrain their brain to focus on certain functions or even change their personality altogether. I really hate that I am an infp and would like to change?
i finally decided to start with season 1 and finish it before watching season 2 etc.. I used to hypothesize sperm providing the entire central nervous system because of the visual resemblance but after doing research i've found nothing of the sort. My Ti parent and Te critic are killing me with this one... verifying.. checking my work.. checking others work even more so is so exhausting but i do want to know the truth.. until i do i will continue to point out that idk the truth yet
Great work CS Joseph. You have a different take on the system that caught my attention. I know some of the rules that governs the system and will be watching more videos and understand the rest of them. My question to you is , do you know the basis for the rules ? Like why if the hero is a thinking function then the parent should be perceiving. And why can't be the first 2 functions introverted? If you know please do a video or help recomending a source that would answer such questions..
thanks for the reply. I understand the shortage of time and space to elaborate on the subject. If you know a source that talk more on the subject of how the "law of opposites" affects the structure of the functions, please let me know. As the answer is too short to be satisfying.
Hey, I was just rewatching this video because I was translating it to my mom and I noticed that you didn't explain how to get the first two functions of our type correctly. You said that the first letter of our type E/I determines whether our primary function is extraverted or introverted and then the last letter J/P determines whether it is a perceiving N/S or judging T/F function. The problem is that this only works for extraverted types and not for introverted because an INFP for example has Fi as their primary function but it's not a perceiving function, even though he is a P. So the correct way to put it would be to say that the last letter J/P determines which first *extraverted* function is perceiving or judging. Maybe you meant to say it this way but when I tried to teach my mom how to derive all the cognitive functions just from the four-letter code by using what you've said in the video it didn't work for introverts.
So you mention that the critic lays in the unconscious. Do Hero and parent fall under Ego, Child and inferior under subconscious, nemesis and critic under unconscious, and trickster and demon under superego?
@C.S. Joseph I have a question regarding the functions using the spectrum approach. If we use the 0-100 scale could we say that each of the functions have a range that they can tune into within the heirarchical order you described. Where as an individual develops a specific function they become more intuned with it, they still would be in the same order but it would look something like I showed below. If this is correct, it would explain why type is so insanely complex because even though you have 2 of the same types who would have the same the order of cognitive functions they would be able to tuning into, their development would also impact their ability to tune into different functions and therefore make them seem as different people as one may be stuck in their shadow, in their hero, or improved their weaknesses and developed and be in tune with their subconscious for example. Hero: 76-100 frames/second Parent: 51-75 frames/second Child: 26-50 frames/second Inferior: 21-25 frames/second Nemesis: 16-20 frames/second Critic: 11-15 frames/second Trickster: 6-10 frames/second Demon: 1-5 frames/second Does this make sense?
i have just started watching videos and i was wondering have you ever tried to campare psychiatric perspective of personality, such as theodore millons personality categories like those in DSM-5 ?
CS Joseph I was typing out all the types and I made it through all of the Extraverted types fine, but I downloaded your grid for typing anyone and all of the Introverts I was wrong about. Is there a different pattern for determining cognitive functions of Introverted as opposed to Extraverted? For example: ENTJ & INTJ Since they're both judging types the Hero slot would have to the 3rd slot (decision making) so Te & Ti to match the extraverted/introverted. The inverse relationship between Te/Ti and Fi/Fe would mean that the inferior functions would be Fi and Fe respectively. For the parent slot we'd use the information gathering which would be Ni for ENTJ and Ne for INTJ and Child would be Se for ENTJ and Si for INTJ. So we should end up with. ENTJ: Te, Ni, Se, Fi INTJ: Ti, Ne, Si, Fe How is it that you end up with INTJ being (Ni, Te, Fi, Se)
It's like this. Let's take INTJ for example. The final letter is the key, it tells you which type of function (judging or perceiving) is extroverted or should I say... most outwardly visible. It's the first thing people see about you. J means the extroverted aspect is a judging aspect. T means the judging aspect is Thinking and since the last letter is J, it gives you a Te. This means the other type of function (in this case the perceiving function) must be an introverted function. Hence, Ni. Now, this is where the first letter comes in. It tells you that the first function (in this case) must be introverted. Therefore, INTJ has a stack of Ni Te Fi Se. The third and fourth function are total opposites of the primary and auxiliary.
Even though the Ni is the primary function (hence the INTjs introversion), the first thing a person notices about them is their Te as they enjoy talking in a rational way. Hence, the final letter is J as the final letter signifies what is first obvious about the person.
Let's take the ENTJ. Once again, NTJ tells us Te and implies Ni. The order is then determined by the first letter. E tells us the first function is extroverted. Hence, Te Ni Se Fi.
@@attalan8732 I fully grasp that in any specific sequence of letters the first describes whether the first function is E or I, the 2nd represents the first information gathering function, the third represents the first decision making function and the fourth lets you know whether decision making or information gathering is primary. And I understand the notion of cognitive axis and them being opposites I'm just trying to figure out what logic you're using to determine Ni for the primary based on the process Chased described. Is it opposite if someone's letter starts with I as opposed to E and therefore we consider the 2nd letter a decision making function and the 3rd an information gathering function? I'm trying to figure out why the logic doesn't seem to follow, maybe I'm missing something. @C.S. Joseph could help. ENTJ vs. INTJ: 1) Look at the 4th letter which lets us know that a decision making function should come first which in both cases would be Thinking. 2) For the ENTJ the first letter is E so it would be Te, and for INTJ the first letter is I which would mean that it should be Ti. 3) Hero & Inferior are opposites so ENTJ: Te, Fi and INTJ: Ti, Fe 4) Perception functions are both secondary in these so Parent/Child functions would be Ni, Se for ENTH and Ne, Si for INTJ ENTJ: Te, Ni, Se, Fi INTJ: Ti, Ne, Si, Fe I know the sequence for INTJ is incorrect I'm just trying to understand the logic behind why we wouldn't follow the same pattern.
+Brett Butler ah no. The fourth letter does not indicate that a decision making function comes first. It indicates that the decision making function is most noticeable - because it is extroverted. When you come upon an introvert, the first aspect you notice is in fact their second slot, the extroverted one. This is because, well, it's extroverted, you see it manifest itself right away when you begin interacting as interactions between people is an extroverted activity. Therefore, in both cases the extroverted function will be a judging function (in this case Te for both ENTJ and INTJ), but as the E indicates in ENTJ, the Te is at the top, but for INTJ, Te is second place as the INTJ is introverted. The process is as follows: 4th letter determines whether the extroverted function is judging or perceiving, 2nd and 3rd letter gives you the type of the function (T/F, N/S), 1st letter determines order of the functions in the stack (I for introverts function at the top, E for extroverted).
Do you have a playlist full of videos where you solely focus on one function and describe how it changes depending on whether it's a hero, parent, child etc? And when are the sides of the mind active? Like when is the ego active, or the super ego. And how can you tell? I wanted to learn about personalities because recently as an ENTP I learned I disrespected my ex's Fi parent. She's an ESFP. I didn't know about typing when I messed up.
I cant recall which video it was that you referenced a book to read about the origins of cognitive functions. Trying to learn deeper than just identifying. Ive gone back through and ive watched the ones i think it may have been in, but i cant recall. I looked through the book list on the website too, and none are striking a bell. Please help. (=
@@osscar29 they're on Amazon. The one she wrote on selling using type is out of print, but all the other understanding yourself and others series are on Amazon. 🤷
So which two functions would be responsible for someone needing to look at/see someones face in order to hear/listen to them better, other wise if looking somewhere else you could tend to zone out more easily or start overthinking what they have been saying meanwhile not listening as well to what they then are saying.... Basically visually seeing something makes it easier to hear I guess....
So the shadow of ESFJ is ISFJ? Or maybe I'm wrong.... Am I correct in this: I'll try the ISFJ: ISFJ, we know it starts with an introverted function. SInce J is the end, then we know that the hero function should be a judging function. So, it is Introverted Feeling first. The inferior then is the polar opposite which is extraverted thinking. Then, since it is IS, then sensing should be the parent. And since the first one is already introverted, so the parent is extroverted sensing. The child then is introverted intuition. So for ISFJ, based on how I understood from your examples, would be: Introverted Feeling Extroverted Sensing Introverted Intuition Extroverted Thinking However, I searched in google, and the hero is Introverted Sensing. I must be missing something. Please help.
Are S and N, as information-gathering functions (intake) more passive than T and F, the decision-making functions (output)? It seems to me that making decisions generally requires more effort than taking in information. Does that transfer to the functions?
no wait better question. So you say for example an entp has ne as their first function let's say I dunno 100 frames per sec (even tho still no idea what that means, maybe a bit) but what if they developed their fe more over the years, are the fe frames higher? or can they be as high as ne?
He means how strong and fast the signal for the frequency, demonstrated by frames per second, is in which our minds pick up. Our highest/hero function picks up on the strong, very fast frequency; and our demon function picks up on the slowest frequency.
woah u hearted my comment dude if u see this can u take a wILD guess and try 2 type me JUS BASED OFF OF THESE COMMENTS I don’t think that’s possible but JUST 4 FUN
I'm very new to this, but I'll take you up on the challenge, hopefully it hasn't been to long since you posted. I am guessing you are an ENFJ based only on this comment of yours. I would love to know if I am even close. Thanks for the fun, and to keep the experiment going I wonder if anyone can identify my type.
sub concious isfj for a long period of time that became humble than any personality , even in entp i was like intp but never problem in fe gathering with esfp + charisma for a short time, but now i am really hate of being humble isfj, fe +te -- so clearly knows what when people wants, and thats not so cool things ,somehow and speaking different languages now, but now i am so entp(fe) from entp (ti) so that i can exposed people finally the liars , entp s intj is fearful i told an isfp narcissist (he thought i was mad) untill exposed him, even after being met with intj became half stable my shadow , te accuracy is also so much fearful i guess, any big insult after insult can bring my shadow and he is not angry but more than that but infj activates my ni before, sometimes gave me an answer, dont know how infj guys lived after all fe knowledge more than me , i guess te absenty supported them, but they have rage too atleast ne ti fe solid but ,low si but backed up by ni somehow, and te active too ,but se is low cz parents literally preventing that making me mad, after telling me not social is one of thems shadows biggest problem, no shadow is fearful than shadow intj which can literally throw away anybody's shadow exept the ni doms i guess literally so low se even learning mma didnt help, infp detected that easily, his te is even lower than my te, but 6th ni infps is cool too they really want to help, but ni literally cost him pain😢 i guess 1st 3 is almost same, 5th is helpful sometimes , 6th is quick , 8th we dont want to use,7th is gonna trouble us but really know how isfj s feeling❤ they want to help but sometimes using ti without noticing may be
After jumping around a bit, I finally decided to start at the beginning. My INFP brain is a little overwhelmed (I could use some visual reinforcement - looking forward to white board!), but find it all so interesting. Thanks!
Me too..love this guy
My infp brain needs a visual example D:
Same here! Starting over, enfp? So wish me luck at sticking with this. 😆
I am fascinated, have been for 2 yrs.
Thanks cs!
My psychology class never went in-depth with this extremely interesting topic. Very glad I found this channel.
You're a really good teacher. Yeah, I'm watching the beginning episodes after jumping around for the last few months ;) Thanks.
its a must!!
me too!!
This is pire gold! I just wanted to thank you for doing this 👍🏻
I'm at a crossroads and was depressed for my entire life cause neither my family nor myself accepted me for who I was (lots of childhood trauma). After many years of struggle with therapists only giving temporary relief it finally starts to make sense. Finally someone makes logical arguments for what is going on with me.
Once again, thank you. You do really make the difference. Keep it up!
Sensei, you are an effective, diversified and inventive teacher. Thank you.
for those who don't know what he's saying at 17:04, he's saying "the child is the most innocent part of the mind" 👌
I am at the point where i commited to watching all your theory videos, and learn as much as possible about mbti theory even though this is definitely not included in my major :")
I feel like I'm going to have too much difficulty understanding this. Maybe I shouldn't be watching before bed.
just found this channel
can't wait to learn absolutely everything about this
I was wondering, can u make videos for all the eight functional slots as well?? I mean, i understand what Ti is, but still can't predict how a Ti child will behave(stuffs like that). So can u make a playlist where u discuss, for ex. only about the trickster and how different functions work in the 7th slot, similarlly how functions work as demon etc??
Sankalp Bhardwaj I’ll see to it.
I second that request, it would be very helpful and interesting.
I third that.
@@cucumumu6671 It's already been done for 2 years. Check out season 16 playlist on this channel
You've come a long way Sir. Almost 65K subs. Like you said before, it's timeless..
ISTP here.
Going to consume this, make notes and develop a Second Brain rivalling C.S Joseph so I can conquer the world.
Veni vidi vici.
Understanding is power when applied with critical thinking.
Let's change the world- it all starts with changing yourself.
I WANT TO HUG YOU!!! MY DUDE THIS IS SO HELPFUL ;-; aaaaaaahhhh i am an emotional INFP who feels like i just found my calling THANK YOU I LOVE U
starting from the start, ur really cool bro i love watching these old videos
Oh god I can’t keep up
I watched some of your videos at first in the last several days. Now I decided to binge watch from the start. I like understanding frameworks and making use of them your channel is like a big feast of data wow!
At around 3:58 a realization hit me. I don’t have a background in psychology or mathematics, so I actually have no grounds or advanced level information to prove this, but there are 8 cognitive functions (which create the 16 types) and I’m sure it’s somehow tied to the fact that in the world of computers/electronics, everything is based off 8 also (8 bit, 16 bit, 32 bit… 128G, 256G, 512G). I wonder why 8 is the basis of both the development of the human mind as well computers.
Yes, now watch the season 17 playlist knowing this…
@@CSJoseph Knowledge about this from one of my favorite teachers? I’m excited, thank you 🙏
8 cognitive function
- interface with the world (gather information, make decisions) half on both
Season1 episode 2 on this journey of 2 years to go in order. I have bounced around with many views,. Even with C.S. Joseph.
I am documenting as I go. I hope nobody minds😊 Thanks!
Impressive. I started to learn MBTI and then trace the way to your contents. Your clear the doubt about oversimplification of MBTI, and I like your approach and understanding more than any other you tubers so far.
Here we go!
Super informative. Thanks.
Great breakdown! Very accessible, thank you for your contribution to the community! ♡
Awesome joseph 👍💪👍
You lost me a bit when you say the sperm provides the skull and spine? A sperm and a egg combine into a one-celled structure known as a zygote, which goes on to divide into 100 cells, part of which comprises a 'mesoderm' which directly grows into a spine.
you are not wrong
absolutely love this channel!! but sth confuses me is that after I've watched videos of INTJ, INFP, ISTJ, and ENTP, I feel like I can resonate with all of these 4 types
"People who attack the child side of mind". I've been diving deep into DV/IPV and that just struck me. If i know me enough and know that part of me and my gut says this perso is trying to manipulate me vis these functions I show... I have the upper hand. 😉
Great Video!
I wanted to do the 16 personality test for fun and got ISFP (3 times) and ISFJ (1 time). I later found out it was inaccurate for many reasons. A person on reddit recommended your video (season 15) to how to do it yourself. That one video was enough to convince me to learn to know more about myself and to be better at socializing and communicating with others.
I'm at the beginning of a looooong journey but I'm willing. I struggled so much with interacting with people because I simply do not know how. I think I have a better chance now and will be teaching my siblings. Thank you for all of this valuable information and time you have put in to educate us.
Your personality is a cherry on top tho🤣🔥✨ always manages to make me laugh😁😎🥳
2:58 sperm provides the skull and central nervous system? it's not how sperm and egg work according to biology though. Why would you say that? Are trying to mean that 'mind' / 'soul' / life comes from the sperm?
Thematically speaking. Metaphysics
I'm gonna watch all your videos starting with the oldest and work my way to the new ones. I really enjoy your thoughts. Do you think a certain type can retrain their brain to focus on certain functions or even change their personality altogether. I really hate that I am an infp and would like to change?
Jona7Fer it can happen but usually only after huge amounts of stress or abuse.
I like INFP but ISTP is what I like the most so far.
-INTP
I like INFP but ISTP is what I like the most so far.
-INTP
...are you kidding? Infp is one of the two types I would want to be the most! It's nothing to be ashamed of!
@@WanderingPatata same. If i weren't an intp (which i love despite the downsides) i'd wish to be either istp or intj.
8:16 creeper cat on the fence
I looked insteadly all esfj videos .
now every basic video and then repeat :)
i finally decided to start with season 1 and finish it before watching season 2 etc.. I used to hypothesize sperm providing the entire central nervous system because of the visual resemblance but after doing research i've found nothing of the sort. My Ti parent and Te critic are killing me with this one... verifying.. checking my work.. checking others work even more so is so exhausting but i do want to know the truth.. until i do i will continue to point out that idk the truth yet
When I think about cog functions it makes me think Elon is right and that we live in a computer sim😆.
Great work CS Joseph. You have a different take on the system that caught my attention.
I know some of the rules that governs the system and will be watching more videos and understand the rest of them. My question to you is , do you know the basis for the rules ? Like why if the hero is a thinking function then the parent should be perceiving. And why can't be the first 2 functions introverted?
If you know please do a video or help recomending a source that would answer such questions..
has ata it comes down to primary and secondary as well as the law of opposites. It’s like physics, aka kinetic energy vs. potential energy
thanks for the reply. I understand the shortage of time and space to elaborate on the subject. If you know a source that talk more on the subject of how the "law of opposites" affects the structure of the functions, please let me know. As the answer is too short to be satisfying.
I could be mistaken, but I think his cognitive axis video would help answer your question, at least in part.
Hey, I was just rewatching this video because I was translating it to my mom and I noticed that you didn't explain how to get the first two functions of our type correctly. You said that the first letter of our type E/I determines whether our primary function is extraverted or introverted and then the last letter J/P determines whether it is a perceiving N/S or judging T/F function. The problem is that this only works for extraverted types and not for introverted because an INFP for example has Fi as their primary function but it's not a perceiving function, even though he is a P. So the correct way to put it would be to say that the last letter J/P determines which first *extraverted* function is perceiving or judging. Maybe you meant to say it this way but when I tried to teach my mom how to derive all the cognitive functions just from the four-letter code by using what you've said in the video it didn't work for introverts.
yes I am aware, and I believe I explained that.
It still is ambiguous 😐
I skipped some parts because it was hard to follow. A scheme of some sort would help, but hopefully things will become clearer with time.
So you mention that the critic lays in the unconscious. Do Hero and parent fall under Ego, Child and inferior under subconscious, nemesis and critic under unconscious, and trickster and demon under superego?
@C.S. Joseph
I have a question regarding the functions using the spectrum approach. If we use the 0-100 scale could we say that each of the functions have a range that they can tune into within the heirarchical order you described. Where as an individual develops a specific function they become more intuned with it, they still would be in the same order but it would look something like I showed below. If this is correct, it would explain why type is so insanely complex because even though you have 2 of the same types who would have the same the order of cognitive functions they would be able to tuning into, their development would also impact their ability to tune into different functions and therefore make them seem as different people as one may be stuck in their shadow, in their hero, or improved their weaknesses and developed and be in tune with their subconscious for example.
Hero: 76-100 frames/second
Parent: 51-75 frames/second
Child: 26-50 frames/second
Inferior: 21-25 frames/second
Nemesis: 16-20 frames/second
Critic: 11-15 frames/second
Trickster: 6-10 frames/second
Demon: 1-5 frames/second
Does this make sense?
it does make sense but some functions can go beyond those limits but not too far.
@@CSJoseph thanks that makes sense.
Thanks.
i have just started watching videos and i was wondering have you ever tried to campare psychiatric perspective of personality, such as theodore millons personality categories like those in DSM-5 ?
CS Joseph I was typing out all the types and I made it through all of the Extraverted types fine, but I downloaded your grid for typing anyone and all of the Introverts I was wrong about. Is there a different pattern for determining cognitive functions of Introverted as opposed to Extraverted?
For example: ENTJ & INTJ
Since they're both judging types the Hero slot would have to the 3rd slot (decision making) so Te & Ti to match the extraverted/introverted. The inverse relationship between Te/Ti and Fi/Fe would mean that the inferior functions would be Fi and Fe respectively. For the parent slot we'd use the information gathering which would be Ni for ENTJ and Ne for INTJ and Child would be Se for ENTJ and Si for INTJ. So we should end up with.
ENTJ:
Te, Ni, Se, Fi
INTJ:
Ti, Ne, Si, Fe
How is it that you end up with INTJ being (Ni, Te, Fi, Se)
It's like this. Let's take INTJ for example. The final letter is the key, it tells you which type of function (judging or perceiving) is extroverted or should I say... most outwardly visible. It's the first thing people see about you. J means the extroverted aspect is a judging aspect. T means the judging aspect is Thinking and since the last letter is J, it gives you a Te. This means the other type of function (in this case the perceiving function) must be an introverted function. Hence, Ni. Now, this is where the first letter comes in. It tells you that the first function (in this case) must be introverted. Therefore, INTJ has a stack of Ni Te Fi Se. The third and fourth function are total opposites of the primary and auxiliary.
Even though the Ni is the primary function (hence the INTjs introversion), the first thing a person notices about them is their Te as they enjoy talking in a rational way. Hence, the final letter is J as the final letter signifies what is first obvious about the person.
Let's take the ENTJ. Once again, NTJ tells us Te and implies Ni. The order is then determined by the first letter. E tells us the first function is extroverted. Hence, Te Ni Se Fi.
@@attalan8732 I fully grasp that in any specific sequence of letters the first describes whether the first function is E or I, the 2nd represents the first information gathering function, the third represents the first decision making function and the fourth lets you know whether decision making or information gathering is primary. And I understand the notion of cognitive axis and them being opposites I'm just trying to figure out what logic you're using to determine Ni for the primary based on the process Chased described. Is it opposite if someone's letter starts with I as opposed to E and therefore we consider the 2nd letter a decision making function and the 3rd an information gathering function?
I'm trying to figure out why the logic doesn't seem to follow, maybe I'm missing something. @C.S. Joseph could help.
ENTJ vs. INTJ:
1) Look at the 4th letter which lets us know that a decision making function should come first which in both cases would be Thinking.
2) For the ENTJ the first letter is E so it would be Te, and for INTJ the first letter is I which would mean that it should be Ti.
3) Hero & Inferior are opposites so ENTJ: Te, Fi and INTJ: Ti, Fe
4) Perception functions are both secondary in these so Parent/Child functions would be Ni, Se for ENTH and Ne, Si for INTJ
ENTJ: Te, Ni, Se, Fi
INTJ: Ti, Ne, Si, Fe
I know the sequence for INTJ is incorrect I'm just trying to understand the logic behind why we wouldn't follow the same pattern.
+Brett Butler ah no. The fourth letter does not indicate that a decision making function comes first. It indicates that the decision making function is most noticeable - because it is extroverted. When you come upon an introvert, the first aspect you notice is in fact their second slot, the extroverted one. This is because, well, it's extroverted, you see it manifest itself right away when you begin interacting as interactions between people is an extroverted activity. Therefore, in both cases the extroverted function will be a judging function (in this case Te for both ENTJ and INTJ), but as the E indicates in ENTJ, the Te is at the top, but for INTJ, Te is second place as the INTJ is introverted. The process is as follows: 4th letter determines whether the extroverted function is judging or perceiving, 2nd and 3rd letter gives you the type of the function (T/F, N/S), 1st letter determines order of the functions in the stack (I for introverts function at the top, E for extroverted).
Chase, what type is the master Karl Jung himself?
INTP on one of our streams
Do you have a playlist full of videos where you solely focus on one function and describe how it changes depending on whether it's a hero, parent, child etc?
And when are the sides of the mind active? Like when is the ego active, or the super ego. And how can you tell?
I wanted to learn about personalities because recently as an ENTP I learned I disrespected my ex's Fi parent. She's an ESFP.
I didn't know about typing when I messed up.
season 16 playlist
My partner is an ISFP but when he smokes cannabis he seems way more intuitive and intellectually curious. Is this him accessing his ENTJ subconscious?
yes
The sperm provides what now???
the nervous system and spine and skull of the body, includes the brain etc.
I cant recall which video it was that you referenced a book to read about the origins of cognitive functions.
Trying to learn deeper than just identifying. Ive gone back through and ive watched the ones i think it may have been in, but i cant recall.
I looked through the book list on the website too, and none are striking a bell.
Please help. (=
Found it, if anyone reads this comment, its by Linda Berens "Understanding Yourself And Others" series. :D
@@malindaeckert2300 read it yet?
@@kyledukes49 do you have a copy? No i haven't read it yet.
Did you get your hands on these, or recommend another book to get a handle on the basics??
@@osscar29 they're on Amazon. The one she wrote on selling using type is out of print, but all the other understanding yourself and others series are on Amazon. 🤷
I wonder what determines what functions a person is born with. Is it genetic? Does the types of the parents affect the type of the kid?
Not genetic
So which two functions would be responsible for someone needing to look at/see someones face in order to hear/listen to them better, other wise if looking somewhere else you could tend to zone out more easily or start overthinking what they have been saying meanwhile not listening as well to what they then are saying.... Basically visually seeing something makes it easier to hear I guess....
So the shadow of ESFJ is ISFJ? Or maybe I'm wrong....
Am I correct in this:
I'll try the ISFJ:
ISFJ, we know it starts with an introverted function. SInce J is the end, then we know that the hero function should be a judging function. So, it is Introverted Feeling first. The inferior then is the polar opposite which is extraverted thinking. Then, since it is IS, then sensing should be the parent. And since the first one is already introverted, so the parent is extroverted sensing. The child then is introverted intuition.
So for ISFJ, based on how I understood from your examples, would be:
Introverted Feeling
Extroverted Sensing
Introverted Intuition
Extroverted Thinking
However, I searched in google, and the hero is Introverted Sensing.
I must be missing something. Please help.
ISFJ Shadow is ESFP.
Are S and N, as information-gathering functions (intake) more passive than T and F, the decision-making functions (output)?
It seems to me that making decisions generally requires more effort than taking in information. Does that transfer to the functions?
No, watch season 5
By "frames per minute" do you mean how easy it is to see what's happening?
watch the rest of season 1
why can't you have e.g. hero function intraverted, parent and child function extraverted and inferior function intraverted?
cognitive axis prevents this
Are cognitive functions based on the cerebral brain? If so, how?
Read Dario Nardi for more info on that
What do you mean with frames per sec
no wait better question. So you say for example an entp has ne as their first function let's say I dunno 100 frames per sec (even tho still no idea what that means, maybe a bit) but what if they developed their fe more over the years, are the fe frames higher? or can they be as high as ne?
Good question, please watch my lecture on the 8 cognitive spectra for the answer.
He means how strong and fast the signal for the frequency, demonstrated by frames per second, is in which our minds pick up. Our highest/hero function picks up on the strong, very fast frequency; and our demon function picks up on the slowest frequency.
Alex Turchick well said
Thank you sir.
woah u hearted my comment dude if u see this can u take a wILD guess and try 2 type me JUS BASED OFF OF THESE COMMENTS I don’t think that’s possible but JUST 4 FUN
I'm very new to this, but I'll take you up on the challenge, hopefully it hasn't been to long since you posted. I am guessing you are an ENFJ based only on this comment of yours. I would love to know if I am even close. Thanks for the fun, and to keep the experiment going I wonder if anyone can identify my type.
D B not bad dude I’m an INFP LOL I’m super bad at typing ppl unless they’re a diplomat but.. INTP for u? how off am I loool
@@dahliaholm3637 yep I'm INTP
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Where do you get all your information?
csjoseph.life/reading
sub concious isfj for a long period of time that became humble than any personality , even in entp i was like intp but never problem in fe gathering with esfp + charisma for a short time, but now i am really hate of being humble isfj, fe +te -- so clearly knows what when people wants, and thats not so cool things ,somehow and speaking different languages now, but now i am so entp(fe) from entp (ti) so that i can exposed people finally the liars , entp s intj is fearful i told an isfp narcissist (he thought i was mad) untill exposed him, even after being met with intj became half stable my shadow , te accuracy is also so much fearful i guess, any big insult after insult can bring my shadow and he is not angry but more than that
but infj activates my ni before, sometimes gave me an answer,
dont know how infj guys lived after all fe knowledge more than me , i guess te absenty supported them, but they have rage too atleast
ne ti fe solid but ,low si but backed up by ni somehow, and te active too ,but se is low cz parents literally preventing that making me mad, after telling me not social is one of thems shadows biggest problem, no shadow is fearful than shadow intj which can literally throw away anybody's shadow exept the ni doms i guess
literally so low se even learning mma didnt help, infp detected that easily, his te is even lower than my te, but 6th ni infps is cool too they really want to help, but ni literally cost him pain😢
i guess 1st 3 is almost same, 5th is helpful sometimes , 6th is quick , 8th we dont want to use,7th is gonna trouble us
but really know how isfj s feeling❤ they want to help but sometimes using ti without noticing may be