Gilbert Arenas & Josiah Johnson FIX The NBA 75 Team | No Chill with Gilbert Arenas

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  • čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
  • 00:00 - Intro
    02:00 - Gil's Problems With The Selection Process
    06:04 - What Championships REALLY Mean
    07:36 - The Dwight Howard Disrespect
    11:51 - Gil Brings His Handwritten Notes
    24:55 - Alex English
    27:27 - T-Mac & A.I.
    30:12 - Indochino Ad
    31:28 - LMNT Ad
    32:46 - Klay Thompson Continued
    36:50 - Does Kyrie Irving Belong On The List
    40:05 - Does Giannis Antetokounmpo Belong On The List?
    43:25 - How To Fix The Voting
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  • @FuboSports
    @FuboSports  Před 2 lety +259

    Gil’s criteria for voting:
    Everyone is fair game. No grandfathering in. Original 50 out!
    Championships are TEAM awards. I’m looking at personal stats and championships are the cherry on top
    All NBA > All Star
    No predicting or fast-forwarding. No future success based on present stats. Stats are CURRENT stats.

    • @saxonderohan9723
      @saxonderohan9723 Před 2 lety +14

      I would just add that the playoffs are the real test. Regular season is one thing, the playoffs show what a player is really made of. Yes, championships are team awards, but what did YOU do when it mattered most, WIN or Lose?

    • @TeezyfolKKz
      @TeezyfolKKz Před 2 lety +10

      He has to add into context 3 all-nba format wasn’t added until 1988. Before that - from 1946 you had 10 players selected

    • @810Batman
      @810Batman Před 2 lety +1

      All I can say is thank y'all for the content... Stop crabbing over there!!!

    • @collectorjay1991
      @collectorjay1991 Před 2 lety +3

      You have to respect the era of time ahead

    • @saxonderohan9723
      @saxonderohan9723 Před 2 lety +2

      @@TeezyfolKKz There also weren’t as many teams back in the day, you had NBA vs. ABA, and a lot of those guys back in the day had second jobs as plumbers and shit. 😒

  • @dinogee
    @dinogee Před 2 lety +77

    “The Mikan drill?”
    “That’s CUTE”
    😂😂😂😂

  • @youngsatch
    @youngsatch Před 2 lety +421

    Dwight got disrespected and i don’t think Dame should be on the list and I’m feeling iffy about AD being on the list

    • @ptyten9718
      @ptyten9718 Před 2 lety +8

      AD got a better resume than a good 15+ players on that list, he should be in fs.

    • @CharifRocka
      @CharifRocka Před 2 lety +46

      @@ptyten9718 No, he shouldn't.

    • @quadavis4
      @quadavis4 Před 2 lety +20

      @@ptyten9718 what has AD done that’s better than 15 people on this list??

    • @Bdk2036
      @Bdk2036 Před 2 lety +42

      AD doesn't deserve to be there. Hes there baed on what he potentially could be

    • @tylito4764
      @tylito4764 Před 2 lety

      I'm with you

  • @bigsaleem
    @bigsaleem Před 2 lety +118

    JJ: "I see a trend here..."
    GA: "Stop it!"
    JJ: "BIG MEN!"
    HILARIOUS EXCHANGE!!!

    • @jsmoove2194
      @jsmoove2194 Před 2 lety +5

      GA was thinkin sum racial motivation

  • @neapolitanplug5635
    @neapolitanplug5635 Před 2 lety +311

    Every time Gil says “you gotta remember”, take a shot and see how the rest of your day goes. The legend knows what he’s talking about.

  • @KEANUWHITE
    @KEANUWHITE Před 2 lety +335

    I see Gilbert and I click immediately! Dude is just always brutally honest

    • @carma8475
      @carma8475 Před 2 lety +20

      He be wrong a lot too

    • @Peakfreud
      @Peakfreud Před 2 lety +11

      @@carma8475 True, but at least his perspective is refreshing and objective.
      He focus on stats way too much.
      Dennis Rodman intangibles other contributions don't show up in stats.
      There's no hustle stat.
      There's also no stat for showing up and hustlin your @ss off.
      Harden has stats and that's about it.

    • @Wolverinebj3
      @Wolverinebj3 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Peakfreud objective? 😂😂

    • @Peakfreud
      @Peakfreud Před 2 lety +1

      @@carma8475 Some of those stat lines come when teams were averaging 80pts a game.
      Two players in todays NBA can give you close to 80 a game.

    • @Peakfreud
      @Peakfreud Před 2 lety +3

      @@Wolverinebj3 Yeah Objective, unless you're his psychologist or telepathic, willing to provide some 1/2 @ssed back story in the man's motives.

  • @Peakfreud
    @Peakfreud Před 2 lety +165

    2x NBA Champion
    NBA finals MVP
    6x NBA All Star
    4x NBA Defensive first team
    4x All NBA
    16401 pts
    4600 assist
    Joe Dumars

    • @hyperfixer
      @hyperfixer Před 2 lety +19

      Joe Dumars don’t get no love

    • @potatopoison1130
      @potatopoison1130 Před 2 lety +1

      How many seasons?

    • @hyperfixer
      @hyperfixer Před 2 lety +2

      He playing like 13-14 years

    • @justinchin6291
      @justinchin6291 Před 2 lety +29

      Didnt know he was a finals mvp. Lillard one of my favourite players to watch but man how did he make this list over this resume...

    • @No-Hassle
      @No-Hassle Před 2 lety +4

      @@justinchin6291 didn’t play with Rodman, Thomas, or Lambeir

  • @maroontiger
    @maroontiger Před 2 lety +127

    Gilbert Arenas is the athlete personality that the culture NEEDS

    • @samuelhollinquest4096
      @samuelhollinquest4096 Před 2 lety

      California Swag

    • @KhariConception
      @KhariConception Před 2 lety

      Right

    • @realitybites8259
      @realitybites8259 Před 2 lety

      Fosho

    • @HT-sm9dm
      @HT-sm9dm Před 2 lety

      Not at all. Dude literally just caters to younger millennials and Gen Xers. Most people born before 1988ish disagree with this dude.

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 Před rokem +1

      @@HT-sm9dm He definitely disrespects the oldschool for sure, doesn't like anybody from the 80s or before. I can give him that 1950s players and before probably were pretty weak compared to todays NBA, but there's guys in 60s, 70s, 80s who were greats

  • @roadrunner5233
    @roadrunner5233 Před 2 lety +35

    Could you imagine if Gil was playing now his post game interviews would be legendary 🤣

  • @purplehippo9948
    @purplehippo9948 Před 2 lety +29

    They made the NBA Top 75 Most influential list. Gil hit it on the head

  • @ryanshepard8625
    @ryanshepard8625 Před 2 lety +65

    Gil is hilarious. At this rate, he's about to have 5 people on his list

  • @eo7381
    @eo7381 Před 2 lety +47

    I just love how objective n honest Gil is on his podcast.. this podcast is kinda underrated in comparison to other podcasts... he’s actually severely underrated as a basketball knowledgable person & underrepresented in the basketball world, of media commentating.

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 Před rokem +2

      If Gil was objective and honest, he would say he doesn't know a thing about the basketball world pre-1985. They should do a post-1985 list, not the full history.

    • @Greenfrom3
      @Greenfrom3 Před rokem

      @@penkima4923 he really does disrespect the old heads lol

  • @nighthawk326
    @nighthawk326 Před 2 lety +29

    It's insane that so many people and players disrespect Patrick Ewing...saying Dwight Howard is greater, and Ewing is not top 75, etc. Ewing is an easy top 50, and Howard is a top 75.

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas Před 2 lety +3

      Their resumes are debatable, what separates them was the longevity of ewings run. He was a better talent too. But resume wise, obviously due to ewings comp, he lost out on a lot of awards that he would’ve won if not for Hakeem, Robinson, and shaq.

    • @sportstalkwithzo3707
      @sportstalkwithzo3707 Před 2 lety +4

      Think about it, Ewing played in the league from 85 through the 90s played in a more defensive era with some of the greatest centers and to me he was the least dominate of them all and dwight was a more defensive minded player so if you put him in that era he dominates even more

    • @kifley19
      @kifley19 Před 2 lety +6

      Ewing averaged 21pts and 10reb for his career with 2 NBA finals appearances. He is easily top 50.

    • @dootscoot1444
      @dootscoot1444 Před 2 lety

      Ewing is trash

    • @dmck8516
      @dmck8516 Před rokem +2

      Actually Pat Ewing was a big that could shoot and played Defense. Howard had no offensive game whatsoever

  • @deez9805
    @deez9805 Před 2 lety +30

    When you think about what Gil says: “would this guy make top 50 off his in game production?” And it makes his bubble players seem legit

  • @tehconman10
    @tehconman10 Před 2 lety +56

    Gotta respect the pioneers and the old school - the game wouldn’t be where it is today if it weren’t for them. There’s a difference between skill and greatness.

    • @t-god2439
      @t-god2439 Před 2 lety +3

      Underrated comment so true dabble in 5 areas vs master a few and be great

    • @4EvurPosters
      @4EvurPosters Před 2 lety +1

      Fact but it’s many players that are better now, than.

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před rokem

      Indeed, that context is needed too.
      And they had their huge share of tough stuff too, with the old hard rules on stats, moves etc.

    • @ajajala5081
      @ajajala5081 Před rokem +2

      @@4EvurPosters that's not the essence of a top 75. It's not who has the better skill set , it's about how dominant where they in their era. What did you achieve in your era? Can't compare 21st century players to early 20th century players in skillet . Lol at the equipment , sport science, literally how people shoot and dribble have changed . People that argue skillset don't understand anything about a top 75. Tbh the list should have never been done in the first place.

  • @Artislife1992
    @Artislife1992 Před 2 lety +54

    The mass media hates when former players debunk their false narratives. 💯

    • @lilbrah4794
      @lilbrah4794 Před 2 lety +5

      I find it hilarious that the ppl making the lists and giving criticism (cough Steven A) would get cooked by the worst player in the NBA

    • @rallacewasheed1422
      @rallacewasheed1422 Před 2 lety +4

      All FACTS

    • @bilogskii2216
      @bilogskii2216 Před 2 lety

      There's no false narrative here though, just not the best list you could come up with. Some of the old players like Alex English or Bernard King isn't there also so there's no huge biased towards the older players.

    • @luismoreno9633
      @luismoreno9633 Před 2 lety

      I don’t think they care lmao

  • @nspades
    @nspades Před 2 lety +5

    I love these interviews

  • @bo832
    @bo832 Před 2 lety +5

    You can tell how much more respect Gil has for JJ than the previous cohost makes a much funnier smoother dialogue, salute

    • @boonz47
      @boonz47 Před 2 lety

      What happened to the old co-host? I haven't been keeping up

  • @bigjack3175
    @bigjack3175 Před 2 lety +68

    I like how honest they’re being frfr…. Dwight Howard, Tony Parker hell Manu Ginobili could be argued to on this list as well… Dwight Howard not being on is still crazy to me

  • @jamiegaskins3687
    @jamiegaskins3687 Před 2 lety +9

    I want Gil to make a list of the top 50 basketball players of all time. No talk about championships or accolades. No talk about careers, wins, or longevity. How good were you at your peak? What do you do on the court? Guys like TMac, Carmelo, Kyrie, and Gil, would be on this style of list over the traditional list that typically takes everything but overall skill into consideration.

  • @leslyvee8691
    @leslyvee8691 Před 2 lety +2

    Great episode I wish it was longer

  • @elixerflow6068
    @elixerflow6068 Před 2 lety +17

    I love Gilbert’s basketball mind
    Totally agree with him on the way to judge this list
    More people should take notice of what he says. If Kobe co-signed him then what’s the problem!

  • @Enygreatdane
    @Enygreatdane Před 2 lety +19

    Dwight over Ewing is nuts 🤦🏾‍♂️😂😂😂

  • @dontaerussell692
    @dontaerussell692 Před 2 lety +10

    These dudes keep trying to insult Pat Ewing for Dwight Howard...FOH

    • @mycitysucks8096
      @mycitysucks8096 Před 2 lety +3

      Exactly, the battles against the Bulls alone say it all.

    • @gilfordmccormack8140
      @gilfordmccormack8140 Před 2 lety +1

      West Coast Bias

    • @sportstalkwithzo3707
      @sportstalkwithzo3707 Před 2 lety

      Naw dwight would dominate ewing in a more defensive era, ewing played in the best era of big men from 85-00 and he was the least dominate and he wasnt a game changer, dwight just off of defensive skill alone dominates that era more then ewing overall game

    • @dontaerussell692
      @dontaerussell692 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sportstalkwithzo3707 man Ewing had skills, so he would've gave Dwight buckets. Dwight couldn't even slow down the big men he played against, he only blocked the shots of guards in the lane, but the big men gave him buckets. Howard was just athletic, once that slowed down, he fell off..

  • @SkinsFan902
    @SkinsFan902 Před 2 lety +77

    Thank you for putting effort into the list!!!! I lost respect for the nba when they released the biased Popularity75. They did Dwight dirty.

    • @Peakfreud
      @Peakfreud Před 2 lety +5

      That list should have been tossed in the trash, when they put James Harden on it.
      Harden and the Refs are the Best Big
      3 ever.

    • @tommartinez3840
      @tommartinez3840 Před 2 lety +1

      Dwight Howard maybe top 100?

    • @depps.7097
      @depps.7097 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Peakfreud stop the cap 👎🏾😂

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas Před 2 lety +8

      @@tommartinez3840 stop. That’s disrespectful. He’s top 50 without question. There isn’t 40 players with his resume let alone 75-100.

    • @mikejones9906
      @mikejones9906 Před 2 lety +1

      Lmaoo Dwight Howard is garbage, stop the cap..

  • @jamielee4911
    @jamielee4911 Před 2 lety +10

    Walton is included b/c he DOMINATED college.... MVP..Finals MVP.. 6th man of the year...He may be the only NBA player to have all three...but gill is right his numbers arent what everybody elses are due to injury.

  • @edwardbrito3332
    @edwardbrito3332 Před 2 lety +83

    Keeping top 50 original was political move.

    • @369pendulum
      @369pendulum Před 2 lety +3

      You call it political, I call it classy.

    • @kingshottah4429
      @kingshottah4429 Před 2 lety +13

      @@369pendulum Stupid* The game evolves and players from the 50s dont belong in the same sentence of some of the newer players

    • @369pendulum
      @369pendulum Před 2 lety +12

      @@kingshottah4429 This list is meant to pay homage to the history of the league & the players that helped build it. If you don't understand that then nothing I say will matter to you.

    • @MNMuscle
      @MNMuscle Před 2 lety +1

      @@kingshottah4429 the game evolves players get physically better, but how dominant was that player in that era? Stats and rules are different now. JR Smith is better than everyone in the 60’s but was he a better player during his era than they were in theirs?

    • @kingshottah4429
      @kingshottah4429 Před 2 lety

      @@MNMuscle JR Smith SKILL wise could dominate in the 50s. I know that sounds crazy to say but if you really think about the skill gap between him and the players of the 50s he would be a star. Would it translate to championships probably not but he would dominate other guards of that era. I'm sorry but George Mikan could not and would not be able to guard a guy like Embiid.

  • @gshivs793
    @gshivs793 Před 2 lety +4

    Take a shot everytime Gil says "put him up there" lol

  • @SeanNyc24
    @SeanNyc24 Před 2 lety +6

    I cant wait for the next episode. Also give us 90 minutes from now on

  • @marquisfelder3170
    @marquisfelder3170 Před 2 lety +10

    ewing was offensively and defensively better than dwight but D12 still deserve a spot om the lis

    • @treyneal8837
      @treyneal8837 Před 2 lety +1

      No he wasn't defensively. Good try though

    • @cballantine8096
      @cballantine8096 Před rokem

      @@treyneal8837 Your crazy. Patrick Ewing was averaging 4 blocks and played 82 games. The most Dwight averaged in one season was 2.9 blocks

  • @maine2132
    @maine2132 Před 2 lety +6

    Bruh don’t disrespect Ewing like that. Gil did you even watch him play? Lol
    He had like 10 straight 20 and 10 plus seasons. Carried a franchise for more than a decade.
    He played both sides of the ball. Could score inside and out.

    • @TJAvant95
      @TJAvant95 Před 2 lety

      Carried? 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @Jboooog18
      @Jboooog18 Před 2 lety +3

      @@TJAvant95 Uhhh yeaaah carried

    • @mycitysucks8096
      @mycitysucks8096 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TJAvant95 yeah Pat carried them. They had good overall teams but Ewing was the man

    • @TJAvant95
      @TJAvant95 Před 2 lety

      @@mycitysucks8096 lmao...the man 😭

    • @TJAvant95
      @TJAvant95 Před 2 lety

      @@Jboooog18 lmao...man, how that go ? 😂. go ahead and go to google then let me know. Ahead of Dwight, 😂😂 ok

  • @ericwilliams1046
    @ericwilliams1046 Před 2 lety +1

    Good stuff. Gil broke it down perfectly.

  • @MrBmick79
    @MrBmick79 Před 2 lety

    the world needed this fellas

  • @ShackCrewInc310
    @ShackCrewInc310 Před 2 lety +4

    Cause you gotta amember. Lol I thoroughly enjoy this pod.

  • @freshcheddar
    @freshcheddar Před 2 lety +3

    Gil just gave me the Cajones to Question players I didn't even dare to Question. He definitely has a mastererful perspective of Hoopin

  • @kevinkim9620
    @kevinkim9620 Před 2 lety +3

    its dope that gil was backing up dwight being on the list and just going in on that topic. definitely think that omission from the list definitely diminishes the legitimacy of it. people who watched him when he played know.

  • @jasonlambert2380
    @jasonlambert2380 Před rokem +7

    As I watched this, I kept thinking how great Tmac was and if he wasn’t hurt as much with more winning he would be top 10 all time. Same with Walton.

  • @boogie749
    @boogie749 Před 2 lety +9

    Crazy for saying Dwight was above Patrick Ewing. Dwight should be on, but Ewing was doing what Dwight did on Defense and gave you 25pts on offense. He was All NBA 1st or 2nd team 7 times when there were real centers in the league. End of Kareem, Hakeem, Robinson, Parrish, Moses, Alonzo Mourning, Mutombo etc. That’s disrespect to Patrick man.

    • @SkinsFan902
      @SkinsFan902 Před 2 lety

      I dont recall Ewing winning 3 DPOYs, 5 rebounding titles or being the most dominant defensive force in the league for a decade. Lets not get carried away glorifying Alonzo and Dikembe as if they were any better than Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. Ewing had the production of a slightly tougher version of KAT with less skill and a worse jumper

    • @boogie749
      @boogie749 Před 2 lety +1

      Ewing averages more blocks for his career than Dwight. But Dwight does have him in rebounds, but again Ewing played with a rebounding monster in Charles Oakley for most of his career and still basically averaged 10 for almost 20 years. Different era man, respectfully.

    • @ThePrayinmantiz
      @ThePrayinmantiz Před rokem

      @@SkinsFan902 - would Dwight win those if he was going against Hakeem, David Robinson, Mutombo, Zoe, etc..and he wouldn't have those rebound numbers either so just stop it already..is Dwight good and maybe deserve to be on the list yes ...but everyone that knows basketball knows they would take Ewing over Dwight not even close...Ewing would eat his lunch on both sides of the court with bad knees on top of that....🤣🤣🤣

    • @MACHOMAN-tw8op
      @MACHOMAN-tw8op Před rokem

      I meeaaannnnnn, you are right. But I say Hakeem was the best center in his era. Actually was becuz Hakeem was the only Center to win a chip in his era.

  • @goodjulio123
    @goodjulio123 Před 2 lety +23

    Wilkins, Ewing, Rodman , worthy are definitely in

    • @izzy9189
      @izzy9189 Před 2 lety +11

      If Rodman is in then Ben Wallace is in. Rodman was a great defensive player, other than that he never carried a team night in night out or was the go to guy. Dude made 2 all star teams, and after he left Isiah and Jordon , what was he?? So no Rodman is not top 75.

    • @Victor-dg9eg
      @Victor-dg9eg Před 2 lety

      Rodman and Ewing doesn’t have enough to be there

    • @agentflipp865
      @agentflipp865 Před 2 lety +2

      Besides Wilkins name being attached to Jordan in the dunk contest… what else has he accomplished?

    • @mca217
      @mca217 Před 2 lety +4

      @@agentflipp865 check Nique's stats

    • @declaytor
      @declaytor Před 2 lety

      Wilkins is number 1 among the group of 4 and he was left off original Top 50.

  • @545047
    @545047 Před 2 lety +6

    Dame and AD belong on the top 100 list that will come out in 25 years, but not the top 75

  • @demeriuspittman9080
    @demeriuspittman9080 Před 2 lety +11

    Dwight Howard is in no way ahead of Patrick Ewing in my opinion.

  • @jasonau427
    @jasonau427 Před 2 lety +24

    ALL NBA should weigh more than All Star but All Star is STILL important

    • @xxstract28
      @xxstract28 Před 2 lety +1

      Nah All-star is fan vote aka popularity. Gil got it right.

    • @jasonau427
      @jasonau427 Před 2 lety +1

      @@xxstract28 Its not 100% fan vote.

    • @lorenenoch5519
      @lorenenoch5519 Před 2 lety

      Maybe allstar selections in this era but back then like he said there were maybe 8 to 12 total teams. You could put up sub par to average numbers and make it

    • @pandabear1576
      @pandabear1576 Před 2 lety

      @@jasonau427 for the starters the fans determine that. Bench players getting coach recognition means nothing. It’s always been all-nba and all-pro over the all star games

    • @jasonau427
      @jasonau427 Před 2 lety

      @@pandabear1576 If you actually read my comment the FIRST thing I said was ALL NBA should weigh more than All Star. Then, I said All Star voting is not 100% fan vote. It’s not. Fan vote is 50%. Current players and media split the remaining 50%. Read and digest what people are saying BEFORE you respond.

  • @AweCamos
    @AweCamos Před 2 lety +10

    BEST HOOP PODCAST OUT

  • @FuriesThurman
    @FuriesThurman Před 8 měsíci

    This is the best gil discussion so far _👍_

  • @GWILL2REAL
    @GWILL2REAL Před 2 lety

    I subscribed off this episode!! 🔥🔥

  • @MICjordanTPR
    @MICjordanTPR Před 2 lety +28

    T-Mac was arguably the best player in the world for about half a decade. He was 7-time all star AND 7-time all-NBA, plus a scoring champ... That's not enough? I feel like being top 3 for 6 or 7 years is just as significant as being top 15 for, say, 12 years. In the same vein, one could make an argument that being an MVP -- i.e., THE (supposedly) best player for a given year -- should automatically qualify someone barring some extreme unforeseen circumstance (i.e., only having 2 or 3 healthy seasons before an injury). Anybody who's a multi-time MVP, it's a no-brainer.
    The argument for a dude like Mikan is that he was _far and away_ the best player of his era. It was a crappy era but he was clearly that dude. He shot 40%, sure, but _offense as we know it literally hadn't been invented yet._ People weren't even taking jump shots. Audiences were throwing batteries and stuff... games were played in _cages!_ If you're not going to ding guys for shooting insane percentages now when you can't hand check them, don't ding George for playing during an era where people could body check you and it wasn't even a foul.

    • @ryanhollinsbwood1787
      @ryanhollinsbwood1787 Před rokem +4

      1. He was not the best player in the world at any point
      2. He never made it out the first round
      3. He played no defense

    • @MICjordanTPR
      @MICjordanTPR Před rokem +3

      @@ryanhollinsbwood1787 Maybe you're too young to remember him before the injuries but he used to be a MONSTER on defense. Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
      Also, Mike never made it out of the first round until Pippen got there. He was STILL arguably the best player in the world by his third season. It's funny but total chips didn't factor into his crowning as the GOAT in the early 90s. Once he won ONE it was like "okay he's there."

    • @jordanfauntleroy2013
      @jordanfauntleroy2013 Před rokem +3

      TMAC was always behind Kobe. Kobe was the best player for almost a decade, right up until Lebron reached his prime lol. I don't no how you would say TMAC was the best for 6 or 7 years.

    • @MICjordanTPR
      @MICjordanTPR Před rokem +1

      @@jordanfauntleroy2013 Never said that. He was IN THE DISCUSSION for about half a decade (which is only 5 years). He might have actually been the best for 2. But Kobe himself consistently said that TMac was his equal before the back injuries. You don't know basketball better than Kobe Bryant.

    • @jordanfauntleroy2013
      @jordanfauntleroy2013 Před rokem

      @@MICjordanTPR Never heard TMAC in the discussion. I would hear the Kobe and MJ discussion. Kobe might have felt that he was his equal, however fans and players had Kobe as the best player in the leauge for a decade, just right before Lebron reached his prime.

  • @Ah-ws9nm
    @Ah-ws9nm Před 2 lety +9

    Players could make their own list based on current players. But when it comes to all time lists, era bias is gonna be too apparent if players vote

  • @kudabeen
    @kudabeen Před 2 lety

    Can't wait for the follow ups on this one...

  • @abigailthompson4475
    @abigailthompson4475 Před rokem +1

    I like his approach!!

  • @eliporter3980
    @eliporter3980 Před 2 lety +8

    Gil should be on this list for inventing the 1-4 flat

  • @zackarybates4065
    @zackarybates4065 Před 2 lety +12

    I love Gil’s prospective . His basketball i.q is crazy 💯

  • @tsiswhoiam
    @tsiswhoiam Před 2 lety

    Great breakdown of the list

  • @MostFearedDill
    @MostFearedDill Před 2 lety +1

    Love this show

  • @goodjulio123
    @goodjulio123 Před 2 lety +44

    Numbers change through eras though, and some points aren’t as meaningful as other

  • @TheKFLadyEagles
    @TheKFLadyEagles Před 2 lety +11

    Tracy McGrady deserves to be on the list.

    • @QuestionEverything562
      @QuestionEverything562 Před 2 lety

      No, he really doesn't. He doesn't even really belong in the HOF, but the HOF's standards are so low that Vlade Divac is in there. T-Mac ain't top 75.

    • @messishaanika7698
      @messishaanika7698 Před 2 lety

      End of

    • @jimmyrodriguez5670
      @jimmyrodriguez5670 Před rokem

      I disagree. I don't think he even got out of the first round when he was relevant.

  • @bradkennedy8350
    @bradkennedy8350 Před rokem

    Really good interview Gilbert arenas is 100% right on what he said about Dwight Howard. A playoff stats should also be a part of this discussion.

  • @snomelc920J
    @snomelc920J Před 2 lety +2

    The NBA Maestro is at it again . Good work Gil !

  • @EvoQC
    @EvoQC Před 2 lety +7

    I think you also have to take into account impact on the game too not just stats

  • @Kedp_
    @Kedp_ Před 2 lety +7

    I respect the fuck outta gill. He keeps it real!..the mainstream sport networks don’t want him on T.V!

  • @Mardoug1
    @Mardoug1 Před 2 lety

    This is awesome analysis!

  • @conanthe3rd
    @conanthe3rd Před 2 lety +1

    14:58 Gill: “Billy Cunningham”
    Pause
    Gil: Ehhh!
    😂😂😂😂

  • @YesImhymn
    @YesImhymn Před 2 lety +3

    I feel like career FG percentage/efficiency should be a huge factor in this as well.

  • @nassa4077
    @nassa4077 Před 2 lety +3

    “Name off the player” - Genius. We just need to let Gill vote.

  • @DavidThompson-lm3tb
    @DavidThompson-lm3tb Před rokem

    This was about four Gil Best Pod I completely agree… Gotta take everybody out and start the 75 all over

  • @littleprince8164
    @littleprince8164 Před rokem

    16:48 lmfao "the Mikan Drill?, That's cute"

  • @derrickwilliams5752
    @derrickwilliams5752 Před 2 lety +19

    Mikan makes the list hands down. The fact it’s even a question is crazy. Yes Mikan has 10k points, he only played 7 seasons in a different era. They also didn’t record rebounds until he almost retired.

    • @reodagreo7637
      @reodagreo7637 Před 2 lety +2

      Plus he changed rules making the game more modern. Plus, as commissioner of the ABA he invented the 3 point line (tho that's irrelevant on this list).

    • @joriancobb3609
      @joriancobb3609 Před 2 lety +6

      Impact is irrelevant to how Gil is building his list

    • @KXNG_Clee
      @KXNG_Clee Před 2 lety +4

      Mikan is a big no. Youre going off emotion

    • @DavidPerez-re1uk
      @DavidPerez-re1uk Před 2 lety +1

      @@KXNG_Clee the NBA’s first superstar

    • @KXNG_Clee
      @KXNG_Clee Před 2 lety +2

      @@DavidPerez-re1uk so hes better skillwise than Dwight Howard? Going off your emotions my guy

  • @gilbertbrown4183
    @gilbertbrown4183 Před 2 lety +6

    I know Gilbert arenas played in the NBA but their's no way I'm putting dwight howard over Patrick Ewing. It's called the eye test.

    • @BrotherO4
      @BrotherO4 Před 2 lety +2

      The eye argument is only used when nothing else supports your point. It’s funny how the stats are only used when it supports the point people want and than those same stats are thrown out when it doesn’t

  • @KhariConception
    @KhariConception Před 2 lety +1

    I agree with Gil’s thought process 100%.

  • @programme9363
    @programme9363 Před 4 měsíci

    "I'm gonna put you up there" is hilarious every time

  • @TheTonytone77
    @TheTonytone77 Před 2 lety +8

    Dwight Howard should be on the list no doubt but better then Ewing is blasphemous

  • @dannyguzman343
    @dannyguzman343 Před 2 lety +11

    Gilbert high for taking Rodman out… 😵

  • @andynguyen4540
    @andynguyen4540 Před rokem +2

    George Mikan averaged 28.4 pts in the 50-51 season while the average ppg for the league was 80 pts. That's 35.5% of a teams pts per game. When Harden won the scoring title in 2019 with 36 ppg, the Rockets averaged 116.4. That's only 31% of the team's points. If you adjust numbers by seasons and eras, them Mikan would average well over 40pts per game

  • @dupreeaddison3395
    @dupreeaddison3395 Před 2 lety

    This is fire

  • @rikkiodom1751
    @rikkiodom1751 Před 2 lety +6

    Yall forgot about Tony Parker

    • @Peakfreud
      @Peakfreud Před 2 lety +1

      Absolutely.
      And Joe Dumars.
      Tony is a Victim of how low key and
      Professional that spurs team was.

  • @SuperKasaan
    @SuperKasaan Před 2 lety +16

    Kinda inconsistent on the All NBA. If you’re all NBA more than 5x that’s dominating an era lol. Idk see how you’re “on the list”.

    • @amaziahyaohsharal9840
      @amaziahyaohsharal9840 Před 2 lety +1

      I don’t recall Wes Unseld being on his bubble list. Wes has 1 all NBA, 1 title, 5 all star appearances, averaged 10points, 10,624 total points, 13,769 total rebounds.

    • @tylergiamartino7709
      @tylergiamartino7709 Před 2 lety

      @@amaziahyaohsharal9840 that’s what I was thinking but they 100% forgot about him💀

  • @MrAlvarez23
    @MrAlvarez23 Před 2 lety

    Does Gilbert says hi lol
    This was great

  • @dailleztj
    @dailleztj Před 2 lety +1

    This is great

  • @chrissymonds2097
    @chrissymonds2097 Před 2 lety +9

    Based off of Gil's criteria, Rodman isn't on there; but as a player that actually impacted the game stats don't always tell the story and rodman impacted winning as the ultimate role player in a league where you still had dominant big men and he was 6'7" snatching rebounds and playing physical defense, so he deserves to at least be in there

    • @BiznessBoog
      @BiznessBoog Před 2 lety +1

      I like what you said there with Dennis Rodman being the ULTIMATE role player. I consider Bill Russell the ULTIMATE ROLE PLAYER, i dont think hes the GOAT, his 11 rings dont count to me towards his GOAT claim cus he was a part of the most dominating team in the league back then. He was just the center on the greatest team assembled back then. he got mvp's but when you can avg 25 rebs as a role player you have to get recognized for that. but he was ultimately a great team player.

    • @chrissymonds2097
      @chrissymonds2097 Před 2 lety

      @@BiznessBoog that is a great example. Bill Russell though, even though he had a specific role, he was still the best player on that team, even though he didn't score all the points as someone like wilt, his specific role was different cause he had guys to rely upon to get those buckets. Wilt just had to take the ball and say get out of my way.

    • @t-god2439
      @t-god2439 Před 2 lety

      @@BiznessBoog bro go watch art of the block it will give you a different appreciation for him

  • @Bowman__
    @Bowman__ Před 2 lety +2

    Gilbert’s objectivity is respectable

  • @dastarfishpat15
    @dastarfishpat15 Před 2 lety

    gil funny af😂 sounds amazing!!!

  • @iloveyoumadhuri
    @iloveyoumadhuri Před 2 lety +6

    So now I know who the co-host is. Not knowing Josiah Johnson’s name for so long was more ridiculous than the NBA Top 75 Players List.

    • @RashaadFontenot
      @RashaadFontenot Před 2 lety

      Thank you. I was looking for it too!

    • @rallacewasheed1422
      @rallacewasheed1422 Před 2 lety +2

      Well I just got used to saying Gil & Ole dude... lol Knowing his name is sort of weirding me out...😂😂

  • @zct1393
    @zct1393 Před 2 lety +6

    This is a perfect example of a deep level thinker debating with a surface level thinker

  • @yuyadesu7758
    @yuyadesu7758 Před 2 lety

    I love agent 0 man 🤣🤣🤣🤣 keep going guys 🔥🔥

  • @GabrielGonzales-wp9fs
    @GabrielGonzales-wp9fs Před 2 lety +1

    To be fair, the way Gil is determining his list, is a great objective method which could eventually turn subjective. I think taking the names away shows the accolades on their own which is great. Then, the nuance can come from the remainder of whoever is from the pool.

  • @Joe-xo4qp
    @Joe-xo4qp Před 2 lety +5

    Gil not valuing winning is hilarious 😭😭

    • @GetWokeGoBroke69
      @GetWokeGoBroke69 Před 2 lety +7

      Winning is a team stats, This is individual. If you want go by winning then Robert Horry should be top 75.

    • @bryanttisdale2446
      @bryanttisdale2446 Před 2 lety

      What can you expect from him playing on Washington Wizards.. His Gannis take.

  • @dazzzzaaa
    @dazzzzaaa Před 2 lety +7

    I think if it is the top 75, the NBA should not account for active players. I agree with Gil on how to judge who deserve to be greatest by stats. Instead, I believe NBA should give out more recognition by era or accolades.

    • @deebrown9263
      @deebrown9263 Před 2 lety +2

      But some active players has been in the league longer than retired players, Lebron, Cp3, even harden , KD and Russ so that’s not really an issue unless it’s someone been in the league 5-8 years

    • @dazzzzaaa
      @dazzzzaaa Před 2 lety

      @@deebrown9263 I am just saying if the player is still playing, they have room to grow. The best time to judge whether a player is top 75, i think it is only fair that they are judged after they have decide to retire.

    • @pandabear1576
      @pandabear1576 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dazzzzaaa that’s wrong though. If a player is 12 years in they have no room to grow. Their stats will grow but their careers are clearly established to judge their all time ranking

    • @dazzzzaaa
      @dazzzzaaa Před 2 lety

      @@pandabear1576 A player can play 30 years but their stats might not be as good as LBJ or Westbrook. Vince Carter is a great example but he redefined the crowd and its expectation. He made dunking so beautiful to watch. Jaw dropping even. That is why i suggested also for the NBA to recognise his talent. Most influential NBA player, I reckon Vince Carter deserves top 10.

    • @nighthawk326
      @nighthawk326 Před 2 lety +1

      Nah...if you accomplished enough to be in top 75, you should be considered for top 75.

  • @Flameville
    @Flameville Před 2 lety +1

    I see what he’s saying but I think the accolades, and intangibles attached to some of these players names add to them being on the list. Especially if they’re from older eras. This comes into play too if they have different roles where they defer to more dominant players on their team.
    I think all nbas, your averages and totals, and finals mvps and regular season mvps should hold more weight. Maybe being a statistical champion in one of the categories should hold weight too. All individual awards and accolades.
    It gets hairy when you look at influence and impact as well like being the first to do something or the best at something all time despite your stats.

  • @liamcameron2414
    @liamcameron2414 Před rokem

    Love this from Arenas... breaking the list down properly

  • @BiznessBoog
    @BiznessBoog Před 2 lety +3

    The 75 team is selective. Gils way of selecting is just that Gils way. 88 people put a list together and they totaled the player votes. Much respect to all lists.

  • @Daleoman
    @Daleoman Před 2 lety +5

    Gil bugging with the Ewing comparison. Ewing is better than Dwight. Ewing just played in a Era where he had better competition at his position. But numbers wise he better than Dwight in almost everything. Dwight deserves to be on that list but at the expense of other players like Rodman for sure..

    • @jimmyrodriguez5670
      @jimmyrodriguez5670 Před rokem

      I'm getting real confused at the lack of respect for Rodman. Where is this all coming from? I don't see how any rational and knowledgeable NBA fan could put Howard over Rodman. And to not even mention Nash as a questionable addition is really confusing. I get the 2MVP argument but if he was that great of a player, he should have been able to at least make it to the finals.

    • @Daleoman
      @Daleoman Před rokem

      @@jimmyrodriguez5670 I can't take what you said about Rodman being better than Dwight serious. It's just ridiculous in so many ways. I'll just say this, name 1 year where Rodman was the best player in his team. Let me help with that NEVER.!!

  • @rolandbullock6444
    @rolandbullock6444 Před 2 lety +1

    Dwight in front of Ewing lol.....stop Gil 🤣🤣🤣

  • @leatherface964
    @leatherface964 Před 2 lety +1

    Gilbert going old school with the notebook paper. Get a tablet bro. 😂😂😂

  • @jakec8552
    @jakec8552 Před 2 lety +3

    You can’t just use numbers. Guys like Worthy and Parish played with other all time greats so their career individual weren’t going to be crazy. Also Vince was playing in an era with Kobe, Iverson. This is why you can’t just use one criteria. You gotta factor in a bunch of things that’s why it’s so hard to breakdown.

    • @jimmyrodriguez5670
      @jimmyrodriguez5670 Před rokem +1

      Vince is the greatest dunker of all time. I can't believe he doesn't just get an automatic ticket.

  • @chilout2496
    @chilout2496 Před 2 lety +43

    Anthony Davis shouldn’t be on there man. I don’t know many of those old players but I’ve watched AD and that’s ridiculous

    • @jour25
      @jour25 Před 2 lety +2

      Barring injury he’s been the best power forward ever since he’s been in the league.. Top 3 player in the league right now! I can see him being the best player of the decade if he stays healthy..

    • @chilout2496
      @chilout2496 Před 2 lety +6

      @@jour25 ok that’s cute. You can say too 75 talents but not too 75 player of all time

    • @MrFlynn47
      @MrFlynn47 Před 2 lety +6

      @@jour25 he isn’t better than Steph, Giannis or KD right now. You could even say PG13 is better as of this moment.
      Then you have Bron, Kawhi, Butler… Morant has been killing it.
      Early days, but AD isn’t top 3 right now.

    • @lemzpotutan2839
      @lemzpotutan2839 Před 2 lety +1

      If this is how you view the best player of the decade? Goodness. You on doobii? Or just casual? Dont throw takes that you cannot sustain!

    • @lemzpotutan2839
      @lemzpotutan2839 Před 2 lety +1

      Too 3 player right now in the League? Simple!! Lebron, Giannis and Steph. Goat Freak and Goat! Kd did almost made it to finals but Steph is the scoring champ.

  • @leemiranda4192
    @leemiranda4192 Před 2 lety

    Gilbert needs his own show! On point

  • @ifeanyionuh8042
    @ifeanyionuh8042 Před 2 lety

    Amazing insight by Gil

  • @nabylingnabyling7658
    @nabylingnabyling7658 Před 2 lety +3

    gilbert arenas so funny he literally said lets take winning out of the criteria like the game is about anything else

    • @bryanttisdale2446
      @bryanttisdale2446 Před 2 lety +1

      He forgot earlier players didn't have a shot clock so no they don't have a huge number of points. Other stats weren't counted either. Finally Gil a ...Washington Wizard discounts winning 🤭😅🤣.(please insert joke here).

    • @vaudou_
      @vaudou_ Před 2 lety +1

      Championships are team awards

    • @nabylingnabyling7658
      @nabylingnabyling7658 Před 2 lety

      @@vaudou_ and basketball is a team sport

  • @MrBojangles2020
    @MrBojangles2020 Před 2 lety +4

    the NFL did this with their top 100.cant make the legends mad and would make the whole top 50 ceremony from back in the day pointless

  • @bmackg9985
    @bmackg9985 Před 2 lety

    U gotta post your top 75 my guy!

  • @shannonb9723
    @shannonb9723 Před 2 lety +2

    The Nfl after every season does a top 100 list of current players voted by the NFL players themselves. The NBA should consider jumping on that idea and doing something exactly like that. Maybe do a top 30 since they have way less players per roster. Would be great to view who the players themselves feel are the best in the league coming into every season.