So what happened to the water when they were through testing the tanks? I can just about guarantee that they didn't just dump it out on the ground because that would be a bigger story than this. So very likely it went right back into the ground and into the Aquifer it came from.
Shouldn't the construction company have to pull permits also. Where did the state think they were gonna get the water to fill the tanks that they were building
Right!!?? Ant the state inspectors for the project didn't question where the water came from and where it was going AFTER the water test was complete?? We are all not so ignorant!!
Mr King accepted responsibility without complaint, agreed that the State Engineer had regulatory authority over the use of the water and did not make up a bunch of flimsy excuses for himself. You don't see people do that very often so I think I'll take his word for it. If the remedy is that his ability to use the well is suspended for enough time to mitigate the diversion I don't have any problem with that.
@@noyopacific..but he’ll make $100’s of thousands on the transaction and will shut down that 35 acres until next year. He’ll just move the crops that would have been on that land to another piece.
@@lowandslow3939 I'm not ready to accept the assumption that the farmer was fully aware of the limits on how the water from his well could be used. He certainly made no effort to hide what he was doing. I used to have an agricultural well myself that produced 6-700 gallons a minute. If someone had offered to pay me a couple hundred per tanker load, it wouldn't have crossed my mind that I might not be permitted to do this.
OH BULL S, everyone knows how important water is there, its a farm well , He should be fined a large amount and not allowed to irrigate any of his land for 2 years. @@noyopacific
Oversite? Illegal and got caught. Didn’t say how much he received in $$$ for the water. He is not being picked on. He’s actually being given special treatment. He should be charged with a crime.
I’m assuming he saw dollar signs and went for it. I never heard of a farmer or rancher selling so much water. Even if you have extra, you sell it to other farmers. Where is this water going after the tank test?
I was thinking the same thing where are they going to use the water hopefully to water other fields. For the one who says it's a joke there is no joke about wasting water I don't care how many days of water it is. We are in severe drought even if it doesn't look like it at the moment.
Good one Ken🤙🏽☮️ yup you nailed it...Poland Springs water, coca cola, Pepsi, the list is hurtfully endless. Water thieves even on Maui for 100+ years🤙🏽💖🏝😢 and when you think of all the waste of precious water millions of gallons millions upon millions that are used for theme parks and golf courses in rich people resorts.....just so distressing. And the water regarded for human consumption is nothing short of poison.
All the people who think they can just dump that water back in the aquifer to be used by homeowners for their water wouldn’t say that if they lived there. Those construction areas are filthy and all those steel bin sheets are coated with oil. You drink that.
Rev. 01. My wife and I, live out hear in Stanley, near where they have been pumping out the aquifer. Although they have reportedly stopped, they are now pumping from the nearby Volunteer Fire Station's, hydrant. My well, and many East Mountain resident wells went dry as well, during the first pumping, we had to haul water from town for two months and make over $3000.00 in repairs to the well. We lowered it another 50ft, which put it at the bottom. A lot of wells went dry out here.
Hopefully they could transfer and reuse the water by using it for testing the other tanks for leaks as well. Hmm, just curious where did they then dispose of the water after the tank test?
@@frankgrant4784 : probably poured out onto the ground at the construction site. Who would assume they would tank it back to the original site and pour it on the ground there!
Good point. It's not just gone. It goes back into the ground and the water cycle. Doesn't matter where because the water table isn't compartmentalized like people think it is. It's not a bathtub under ground. One wells use only effects the immediate area and diminishes with distance. It's called cone -of-effect.
@@jamesrice6096 Not always true.. It depends on the aquifer. In the flatlands, the aquifer is more likely to be on a certain level rather than stratified as is the case in the mountains of western N.M. Here, you may find water 80 feet down in one place, and 450 feet down just a mile away.
Axis losing millions of gallons to foreign countries. It’s illegal to grow alfalfa in Saudi Arabia so they’re doing in the desert of AZ with NO RESTRICTIONS on amounts pumped!! Thanks Hobbs.
find some new podcast trash to regurgitate those farms were shut down awhile ago and what exactly does Hobbs have to do with anything those water rights laws have been in place for decades and still are but hey at least you got some thumbs up
@@marknicolich5789 it looks like it JUST was reported on back in October and November of 2023 and the Saudi farms shipped the alfalfa back to Saudi since 2015. That is pretty recent for something so blatantly, in-your-face-America aggravating and shouldn't be forgotten for a second unless you, too, think man-dress boy in Saudi Arabia is a pretty great guy, too, and doing wonderful things. The Saudi company, Fondomonte, does own 10,000 acres outright versus the leased land that Hobbs is reversing the decision made by a prior governor - opening the state up to a law suit. This is backup water for Tucson and Phoenix. The laws better catch up with the reality or water misuse and theft is only going to increase. Meter all of the wells and plug them as punishment for abuse. Edit: You can monitor well production from a distance with the new-fanged technology - ask any pumper who lost their well-paid, cherry job to it being centralized at the office and done by those who knew or learned Python in anticipation.
So, what’s the $$$ amount on six million gallons of illegally pumped water in New Mexico? It would appear the rancher is being penalized by taking away water usage instead of a monetary fine. Why not both?
Problem with all this is the Water aquifer isn't only under his Property and it doesn't only affect his property. It affects the whole surrounding area and every Ranch or homestead within Miles of his Ranch. They suck it dry and everyone's Wells will run dry and be useless not to mention dropping the water table quickly like that can cause safety issues with land splitting wide open.
The last time I checked land never floated on water. Water doesn't (belong) to anyone. They may claim it but that's no different then this rancher selling access to it. What it all boils down to is the state is pissed they didn't get thousands of dollars for something they claim but don't oun.
And now you see why libertarians and right wingers don't like regulation. It's not because we don't like rules and quality control. It's because we know that's a failed tactic, and want to try better ways to achieve the same thing.
I think you missed the part where they state that Mr. King cannot irrigate his land for 1 year. In essence, he sold his water and cannot pump more. What I would like to know is how much he pumps in a year for irrigation. Is this sanction fair to his neighbors who share the aquifer?
It can't. Else King would have already paid a fee and be back in business with the construction company. If he'd applied for a permit, the engineer would have to check if the water usage would deplete levels negatively and could have specified a return-to-source path for the water, to get it back to the aquifer for use. That's what a permit application is supposed to trigger.
*Slobbering, shaking, heart beating so hard you could see his shirt pumping, smirking slightly, etc...* *If this was a lie detector test it would have blown the machine up.*
I mean Los Lunas just tripled their contract with Niagra bottling company despite huge community outcry. Politicians dgaf about the community they serve - its all money.
@@randywise5241 "Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time" was around loooong time before even MY time, nevermind GenX and that was a gall dang loooong time ago. LoL
Take as much water as you want and dirty it up too👌Gotta support big biz (donors)... screw the little guy. -Republicans Hey, we like Anheuser Busch again because they're fund raising for Dear Leader. -definitely Republicans
Alcohol distillation lowers the water table in Iowa for mandated gasahol subsidies to farmers, nothing new about government sale of resources to industry
The question that needs to be asked and answered is IF BEFORE the pumping of this water was done AND the land owner AND Construction company ASKED for a permit WOULD it have been granted???
@@d-rot wrong, the LAND OWNER also owns the water UNDER his land. It's the INTRUSIVE GOVERNMENT who's regulations that have encroached upon his rights that is the problem. Hence my question ❓
Yep. This boils down to one thing- Bloated Government. Our nation is a disaster right now, and these idiots are losing their minds over AT MOST ~6 days worth of irrigation. I am so sick and tired of city folk.
@@ernestjoiner3040they'll be starving soon enough. These conservationists are going to get a good lesson in okay, if it's so easy, here you go, do it yourself. Peanut gallery.
Think you meant preservationists. Conservationist promote use of resources, but not the total destruction of them At the end of the day, these impressive sounding amounts they are talking about are negligible. It's a story to rile up the informed. The water table is fine.
I wanna know what happened to the water AFTER the tank tests were completed. Was the water put to good use? Did they truck it back to King Ranch so they could utilize it for irrigation?
@@mchrysogelos7623 If you say so. That is what our ranch did. We lost our well water in the 70s drought due to another farmer putting in a deeper well. My stepdad put in a deeper well so we could have water. Call it what you want but it’s been done a lot lately.
You know that only the amount of water taken is equivalent to 6 1 acre-inch rains over 35 acres. New Mexico saved millions of gallons by not letting him irrigate all year. It is a tremendous penalty to King and Karen and a massive boost to the aquifer she is concerned about. Doers always have a target on their back.
@@greatplainsman3662 You're missing the point. Thirty-five acres is nothing ... he may even gain benefit for leaving the field fallow for a year. If the water sold was only enough to irrigate 35 acres for one year, they are really winding themselves up to a ridiculous degree over almost nothing.
How many gallons of water dose it take to irrigate 35 acres for two years??? Could it be equal to the amount he sold? Or maybe even more then that in a hard year. Plus, that is 35 acres of land not producing any income for two years, or hay for his cattle. Witch means out of pocket expense or down sizing hid heard. Maybe learn a little bit about ranching and what it cost to raise one from impregnation to action before bitching about losing the usage of 35 acre’s of farm land for two years is a small price for the offense.
This happens around EVERY oil field. The drilling companies buy water from random "water haulers" without questioning about where the water came from, those water haulers will steal water from anywhere they can get it.
That farmer answered all the questions with such grace and honesty. I have never heard of a county that owned your water rights, but I don't live in an area where water regulated. The county had to give the permits for the construction so they knew the company would need water, what was so wrong with getting it from a couple of miles away instead of all those trucks driving excess miles to pick it up, stupidness. The water would have been used anyway why was this even a big story? If that area has a lot of droughts they must haul in water a lot. That was a poor "investigative journalist" there was no questions on why that company got the permit or where the water for the project was going to come from. Clearly the water could be siphoned out and used for irrigation factoring in they didn't have chemicals in the barrels and it was just for checking leaks.
@billferner6741 you don't get it. Water! It comes from the ground! Oil, it comes from the ground. Is there some kinda secret magic that keeps them separated underground? 🤡
OMG... and seeing the thumbnail I thought someone was illegally dumping toxic waste.... Hard for me in New York to imagine such severe issues with water. Pollution, yes.....
@@harryballsacky I'm aware of that. I'm over near Conesus/Hemlock. I was poking at them for getting their shorts in a twist over a few truckloads of water, when in some years we have standing water in our lawns all summer.... Seeing the thumbnail with an unlabelled tanker, it gives the initial impression that someone was dumping nasty stuff.....
Former AZ Congressman Sam Steiger, who had a TV show until his stroke, always quoted "Whiskey if for drinking, water is for fighting." This is classic, the land owner is getting punished, NOT THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY? Mr. King should sue that company.
The King ranch has been in business since 1917, and the owner didn't know anything about the water usage rules he was violating? Come on, Mr. King. Really? It appears to be a case of "anything is for sale for the right price".
Even if Mr King knew he needed a permit or not, his handling of talking to the media with his demeanor is golden. Everyone public figure or company should take note like this in the eyes of controversy and stop being defensive
Once the contractor is finished testing the tanks for leaks, why couldn’t they then return the water back into the water supply or back to the rancher for irrigation??? Just testing a clean tank for leaks wouldn’t contaminate the water at all.
The Johnstown area. The northern pickaway county rickenbacker area. There are many small towns and rural areas being destroyed by county and government greed in Ohio.
How can I give you my email or something like privately so I don't have to put it on here and we can communicate that way I'm just really want to know what you what you got like I've never heard anything about it
One inch of water per acre is 27145 gallons. Times that by 35 acres is almost 1 million gallons. Some crops need 1 inch per week so times that by say two months. That’s not to far off.
Question now is what happens to all that water once the construction company no longer needs it, when it has to empty those holding tanks... do they just let it drain out onto the ground?
Kings genius plan works out perfectly. He’s not allowed to pump for one year but now will use that sold water to water crops during the one yr ban I’d say.
That water is contaminated after its test purposes. The state will put the shaft to him if he tries to use it for irrigation purposes. Definitely ruin the local water table s.
Nonsense. The water could not be pumped back into the ground and the farm doesn't have above ground storage for that amount of water. You are making comments based on facts not in evidence.
Of course they did! Good grief. Potentially contaminated water with metals and chemicals put back on crops for consumption. That makes so much sense. Not how it works
@@fposmith What gives you the idea that the tanks were oily? They were new and being tested for leaks prior to filling. You are just making stuff up with no factual basis.
Its hard to understand jut this is actually a small amount of water. But the question i have is if the water was used to test the tanks, what was it used for after the tanks were finished, was it used for irrigation? Can the water from the wells supplying the tanks be used to to be returned to the ranch for credits? It is my understanding that there is plenty of water in the Estancia valley aquifer.
It may be "your" understanding that is plenty of water, but if this crap keeps up, there won't be ! Maybe "you" are looking to sell some ! Sounds like it !
@@fposmith I have owned Land in Torrance County in the Moriarty heights area for over 25 years I have a family member that has a section closer to Estancia. And if water was an issue farming would not exist as rain is a rare occasion. People believe they are helping with their 8 gal s month water saving devices as golf courses are using 200 million or even 2 billion gallons a day to water the grass. There are no golf courses near here but there is a turf ranch
35 acre irrigation penalty. 😂. Even being generous with what you can profit per acre, that’s a pittance compared to what he sold the water for. $$$$$$$$$
Does it really matter if he knew the law or not? I will surmise, however, that he did, and he also knew the profit from the water sale would far outweigh any punishment that could be judiciously handed out as fines.
Whiskey is for drinking. Water is for fighting over. The classic Western Bar discussion about water.
Mark Twain
Based :>) LOL
COPY CAT….@@richardkeen9888
Whiskey for his men and Beer for the horses
Sounds right…..@@calvincamara7708
I guarantee this is not the only illegal water theft.
Saudis have been draining water for their crops in Arizona until they put a stop to it.
That has to be 30yr. old story. 😉
"Illegal water theft" What makes this illegal?
So what happened to the water when they were through testing the tanks? I can just about guarantee that they didn't just dump it out on the ground because that would be a bigger story than this. So very likely it went right back into the ground and into the Aquifer it came from.
@@thomasriggle6371it wasn’t their water? Smdh
He dodged the last question very well without admitting guilt.
"It was an oversight", usually means he didn't think he would get caught.
Farming in a desert just has never sound like a good idea.
Unless you have a good water source.
Shouldn't the construction company have to pull permits also. Where did the state think they were gonna get the water to fill the tanks that they were building
They were not holding tanks for water, so the state was probably unaware they were gonna use 6 million gallons to check for leaks.
The state and it's over regulations is the reason nothing can be done in the US any-more.
@varner226 Well, then it's the states fault. These aren't the first holding tanks ever constructed.
La Mordida.
Right!!?? Ant the state inspectors for the project didn't question where the water came from and where it was going AFTER the water test was complete?? We are all not so ignorant!!
There is NO WAY that Bill King was unaware that his irrigation well could not be used for a private water sale to a pipeline company...no way!!!
Mr King accepted responsibility without complaint, agreed that the State Engineer had regulatory authority over the use of the water and did not make up a bunch of flimsy excuses for himself. You don't see people do that very often so I think I'll take his word for it. If the remedy is that his ability to use the well is suspended for enough time to mitigate the diversion I don't have any problem with that.
@@noyopacific..but he’ll make $100’s of thousands on the transaction and will shut down that 35 acres until next year. He’ll just move the crops that would have been on that land to another piece.
@@noyopacificThat doesn’t address the point that he must have known that what he was doing was illegal, but he did it anyway.
@@lowandslow3939 I'm not ready to accept the assumption that the farmer was fully aware of the limits on how the water from his well could be used. He certainly made no effort to hide what he was doing. I used to have an agricultural well myself that produced 6-700 gallons a minute. If someone had offered to pay me a couple hundred per tanker load, it wouldn't have crossed my mind that I might not be permitted to do this.
OH BULL S, everyone knows how important water is there, its a farm well , He should be fined a large amount and not allowed to irrigate any of his land for 2 years. @@noyopacific
An oversight is an understatement!
Usually means you overlooked something you shouldn't do that you knew about...
Oversite? Illegal and got caught. Didn’t say how much he received in $$$ for the water. He is not being picked on. He’s actually being given special treatment. He should be charged with a crime.
Yes what a way to sugarcode crime.
@@mikedebell2242 is call crime while ignoring the law, that's why he didn't applied for a permit.
@@cconnon1912 instead they made others paid the consequences by not been able to buy water from him for irrigation for one year.
I’m assuming he saw dollar signs and went for it. I never heard of a farmer or rancher selling so much water. Even if you have extra, you sell it to other farmers. Where is this water going after the tank test?
Farmers sell billions of gallons of water to drink manufacturing companies per year. Pumping from aquifers, springs and reservoirs.
An irrigation pivot uses a million gallons of water a day. At most, he sold 6 days worth of irrigation. I don't even see a story here. It's a joke.
I was thinking the same thing where are they going to use the water hopefully to water other fields. For the one who says it's a joke there is no joke about wasting water I don't care how many days of water it is. We are in severe drought even if it doesn't look like it at the moment.
Isn't that what the state seen? "DOLLAR SIGNS" when they found out by the Karen Neighbor. The state will spend a trillion dollars to collect 5 bucks.
Eighteen million gallons fo water sounds like a lot more than it is.
Just change your name to Nestle.
Or Poland springs.
coke. they paid 3 or 400 dollars for water years ago.
Nailed it !!
Good one Ken🤙🏽☮️ yup you nailed it...Poland Springs water, coca cola, Pepsi, the list is hurtfully endless. Water thieves even on Maui for 100+ years🤙🏽💖🏝😢 and when you think of all the waste of precious water millions of gallons millions upon millions that are used for theme parks and golf courses in rich people resorts.....just so distressing. And the water regarded for human consumption is nothing short of poison.
Hunts
What was done with the water after the testing was done? Was it drained back into the landscape?
Nahhh lol, they stole it because they paid for it.
The best thing about this case is the fact that water is more valuable than gasoline
California uses about fifteen gallons a day per almond in growing of almond trees
They need to stop growing almond tress that's crazy !!
He knew exactly what he was doing
All the people who think they can just dump that water back in the aquifer to be used by homeowners for their water wouldn’t say that if they lived there. Those construction areas are filthy and all those steel bin sheets are coated with oil. You drink that.
Rev. 01. My wife and I, live out hear in Stanley, near where they have been pumping out the aquifer. Although they have reportedly stopped, they are now pumping from the nearby Volunteer Fire Station's, hydrant. My well, and many East Mountain resident wells went dry as well, during the first pumping, we had to haul water from town for two months and make over $3000.00 in repairs to the well. We lowered it another 50ft, which put it at the bottom. A lot of wells went dry out here.
The KRQE story is incomplete. What happened to the water after testing???
Hopefully they could transfer and reuse the water by using it for testing the other tanks for leaks as well. Hmm, just curious where did they then dispose of the water after the tank test?
@@frankgrant4784 : probably poured out onto the ground at the construction site. Who would assume they would tank it back to the original site and pour it on the ground there!
They shipped it to SpaceX.
It's on its way to MARS!
Good point. It's not just gone. It goes back into the ground and the water cycle. Doesn't matter where because the water table isn't compartmentalized like people think it is. It's not a bathtub under ground. One wells use only effects the immediate area and diminishes with distance. It's called cone -of-effect.
@@jamesrice6096 Not always true.. It depends on the aquifer. In the flatlands, the aquifer is more likely to be on a certain level rather than stratified as is the case in the mountains of western N.M. Here, you may find water 80 feet down in one place, and 450 feet down just a mile away.
Axis losing millions of gallons to foreign countries. It’s illegal to grow alfalfa in Saudi Arabia so they’re doing in the desert of AZ with NO RESTRICTIONS on amounts pumped!! Thanks Hobbs.
lol check the news. No more alfalfa is being grow there anymore. Period.
find some new podcast trash to regurgitate those farms were shut down awhile ago and what exactly does Hobbs have to do with anything those water rights laws have been in place for decades and still are but hey at least you got some thumbs up
@@marknicolich5789
Those farms were NOT shut down.
They weren't allowed additional wells after the State of Arizona stepped in.
If only you had honest elections
@@marknicolich5789 it looks like it JUST was reported on back in October and November of 2023 and the Saudi farms shipped the alfalfa back to Saudi since 2015. That is pretty recent for something so blatantly, in-your-face-America aggravating and shouldn't be forgotten for a second unless you, too, think man-dress boy in Saudi Arabia is a pretty great guy, too, and doing wonderful things. The Saudi company, Fondomonte, does own 10,000 acres outright versus the leased land that Hobbs is reversing the decision made by a prior governor - opening the state up to a law suit. This is backup water for Tucson and Phoenix. The laws better catch up with the reality or water misuse and theft is only going to increase. Meter all of the wells and plug them as punishment for abuse. Edit: You can monitor well production from a distance with the new-fanged technology - ask any pumper who lost their well-paid, cherry job to it being centralized at the office and done by those who knew or learned Python in anticipation.
Great job, Mr. Hammond.
So, what’s the $$$ amount on six million gallons of illegally pumped water in New Mexico? It would appear the rancher is being penalized by taking away water usage instead of a monetary fine. Why not both?
Problem with all this is the Water aquifer isn't only under his Property and it doesn't only affect his property. It affects the whole surrounding area and every Ranch or homestead within Miles of his Ranch. They suck it dry and everyone's Wells will run dry and be useless not to mention dropping the water table quickly like that can cause safety issues with land splitting wide open.
That is just not how that works, at all.
Agreed. Wish that was more clear in this broadcast and not just inferred.
The last time I checked land never floated on water. Water doesn't (belong) to anyone. They may claim it but that's no different then this rancher selling access to it. What it all boils down to is the state is pissed they didn't get thousands of dollars for something they claim but don't oun.
@@jamesrice6096 It is exactly how it works Mr. CZcams expert.
@@thedesertdwellerfromutah4354 thanks youtube fact checker. Is that what the media told you or haven't you figured out that dirt doesn't float? 🤔
WHAT IS THE POINT OF REGULATION IF PERMISSION CAN SIMPLY BE PURCHASED?
That IS the point. Regulations generate money.
And now you see why libertarians and right wingers don't like regulation.
It's not because we don't like rules and quality control. It's because we know that's a failed tactic, and want to try better ways to achieve the same thing.
I think you missed the part where they state that Mr. King cannot irrigate his land for 1 year. In essence, he sold his water and cannot pump more. What I would like to know is how much he pumps in a year for irrigation. Is this sanction fair to his neighbors who share the aquifer?
45,619,200 gallons of water for 35 acres of alfalfa for a year. +\- depending on temperature and rainfall
It can't. Else King would have already paid a fee and be back in business with the construction company. If he'd applied for a permit, the engineer would have to check if the water usage would deplete levels negatively and could have specified a return-to-source path for the water, to get it back to the aquifer for use. That's what a permit application is supposed to trigger.
Be Alert, Guard Water Supply 💧
No water for 35 acres. 35 acres is nothing. He just won't plant 35 acres.
the corruption in that family runs deep .
when he was asked the question "did you realize you didn't have a valid permit?', did anyone noticed how much he was blinking his eyes?
He was blinking like that through the entire interview.
He was blinking Morse code.
He appears to be blinking: "I wanna get my scatter gun and ask these camera people to leave." 🤣
I think the wind was bothering his eyes.
I never blink. Man’s obviously a liar
*Slobbering, shaking, heart beating so hard you could see his shirt pumping, smirking slightly, etc...* *If this was a lie detector test it would have blown the machine up.*
The whole issue is the state didn't get their cut from the sale. Bottom line.
Bam! nailed it!!
Yeah, who gives a crap about local residents if their wells go dry. Big biz all the way... right republicans?
Exactly
I mean Los Lunas just tripled their contract with Niagra bottling company despite huge community outcry.
Politicians dgaf about the community they serve - its all money.
Yep my thoughts exactly
When I was young a rich man told me it is always smarter to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
When I was young my dad told me you can forgive a criminal after he servs time for the crime.
@@randywise5241
When I was young, a rich man, and my dad told me "don't get caught".
So far...so good....
@@blaydCA LOL.
"Do not do the crime if you cannot do the time." Was a generation X thing. I had plenty of time on my hands.
@@randywise5241
"Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time" was around loooong time before even MY time, nevermind GenX and that was a gall dang loooong time ago. LoL
Not smarter, easier....
Big Q: What happened to the water after the tank-test? Did they bring it back/? Drain it back into the aquifer? For growers and regular folks to use?
That water is not far away, it is still there and available if there is a critical shortage.
Seems to be really about the government not getting their 10%. The big guy has gotta get his 10%.
Take as much water as you want and dirty it up too👌Gotta support big biz (donors)... screw the little guy. -Republicans
Hey, we like Anheuser Busch again because they're fund raising for Dear Leader. -definitely Republicans
Sounds like a guy who wears a mask while driving alone in a car sheeple lol😅
It's about stealing water in the second driest state in the country. Keep making jokes that are two years too late.
Sounds like you have no clue what you're talking about.
@@kathleenmccrory9883 probably don’t. Glad you do.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💩
So what happened to the water used for testing the tanks?
Leaked out
@@joebird1400 Probably
Contaminated water now. Probably get pumped into the Colorado municipal pipeline that runs into west Texas.
Someone actually asked the right question.
Alcohol distillation lowers the water table in Iowa for mandated gasahol subsidies to farmers, nothing new about government sale of resources to industry
Thank you for following these actions
FINE HIM BIGLY. HE KNEW IT WAS ILLEGAL
The question that needs to be asked and answered is IF BEFORE the pumping of this water was done AND the land owner AND Construction company ASKED for a permit WOULD it have been granted???
Definitely, the government is only mad they didnt get a cut
Guy steals water and sells what isn't his and y'all blame the govt. You're a bunch of clowns.
@@d-rot wrong, the LAND OWNER also owns the water UNDER his land. It's the INTRUSIVE GOVERNMENT who's regulations that have encroached upon his rights that is the problem. Hence my question ❓
No it wouldn't, because that water well is designated for irrigation purposes only by the state, so he new it was most likely not to get approved.
After he paid the tax/permit fee, everything was fine. Not really about draining the water it’s about money to the county.
No. Everything’s not fine. He did not say he was issued a permit. Just the opposite. He cant use that well for one year.
Yep. This boils down to one thing- Bloated Government. Our nation is a disaster right now, and these idiots are losing their minds over AT MOST ~6 days worth of irrigation. I am so sick and tired of city folk.
@@ernestjoiner3040they'll be starving soon enough. These conservationists are going to get a good lesson in okay, if it's so easy, here you go, do it yourself. Peanut gallery.
Think you meant preservationists. Conservationist promote use of resources, but not the total destruction of them
At the end of the day, these impressive sounding amounts they are talking about are negligible.
It's a story to rile up the informed. The water table is fine.
@@tripac3392My great uncle in the Rio Grande Valley of TX, age 77 is selling off the cropland as we speak, 62,500 an acre.. This is no joke..
Lord please save these farmers , ranchers , public😢
Wow, you mean, they finally did their job after millions of gallons were stolen. And what we're supposed to congratulate them.
I wanna know what happened to the water AFTER the tank tests were completed. Was the water put to good use? Did they truck it back to King Ranch so they could utilize it for irrigation?
Exactly!
Or was it contaminated and no longer usable in agriculture and also needed to be treated?
Good question. Where did the water get to
When he runs out of water he'll be crying that the ranch/farm needs help. Selling water is easier than farming.
What's farming
No, he just get a deeper well.
@@Waiting_777 🤪🤪🤪🤪clown
@@mchrysogelos7623
If you say so. That is what our ranch did. We lost our well water in the 70s drought due to another farmer putting in a deeper well. My stepdad put in a deeper well so we could have water. Call it what you want but it’s been done a lot lately.
In other words, the state didn’t get their cut and they’re pissed about it
Great Reporting
No irrigation for 35 acres?? Thats it?? Yea, this guy is for sure well connected!!
Son of a politician.
You know that only the amount of water taken is equivalent to 6 1 acre-inch rains over 35 acres. New Mexico saved millions of gallons by not letting him irrigate all year. It is a tremendous penalty to King and Karen and a massive boost to the aquifer she is concerned about. Doers always have a target on their back.
@@greatplainsman3662 You're missing the point. Thirty-five acres is nothing ... he may even gain benefit for leaving the field fallow for a year.
If the water sold was only enough to irrigate 35 acres for one year, they are really winding themselves up to a ridiculous degree over almost nothing.
How many gallons of water dose it take to irrigate 35 acres for two years??? Could it be equal to the amount he sold? Or maybe even more then that in a hard year. Plus, that is 35 acres of land not producing any income for two years, or hay for his cattle. Witch means out of pocket expense or down sizing hid heard.
Maybe learn a little bit about ranching and what it cost to raise one from impregnation to action before bitching about losing the usage of 35 acre’s of farm land for two years is a small price for the offense.
Alfalfa grass, what he is growing, uses a TON of water. Look it up.
This happens around EVERY oil field. The drilling companies buy water from random "water haulers" without questioning about where the water came from, those water haulers will steal water from anywhere they can get it.
No lie there, I've seen fish swimming in a fresh water tank on a rig site . Word got out the vac trucks were pulling it from the pecos River
Tho he doesn't have too. He shouldve involved the voice & opinion of his local neighbors about the water deal.
LOW OVERHEAD
That farmer answered all the questions with such grace and honesty. I have never heard of a county that owned your water rights, but I don't live in an area where water regulated. The county had to give the permits for the construction so they knew the company would need water, what was so wrong with getting it from a couple of miles away instead of all those trucks driving excess miles to pick it up, stupidness. The water would have been used anyway why was this even a big story? If that area has a lot of droughts they must haul in water a lot. That was a poor "investigative journalist" there was no questions on why that company got the permit or where the water for the project was going to come from. Clearly the water could be siphoned out and used for irrigation factoring in they didn't have chemicals in the barrels and it was just for checking leaks.
Water wars begin
We Need the Water Wars Now.
must be hard to save water for all the golf courses
Ban assault golf courses
@@OutWestRedDirt
Hell, just ban golf
Golf / floG < flog : to beat
When they are finished testing the holding tanks, where will the water go? Will they keep it?
I miss you Albuquerque New Mexico...and ALL OF NEW MEXICO! Land of Enchantment! ❤
Investigate what is going on in our communities.🇺🇸
But, what happened to the water when the construction company was done with the leak tests???
went back into the ground...
@@truckstopcowboytruckstopco5639and with what toxins, surely not as pure as it was pumped?
What toxins are you talking about? @@crazylady..
@@IanHotson anything that the water touches, building materials aren't healthy and pure. Dust, dirt, parts from the building?
If it comes from the earth, it can go back to the earth. @@crazylady..
He didn’t know he needed a permit? He worked with his brother in the government, besides ignorance of the law is not an excuse for breaking it.
What did the construction Co do with the water after the test....
If the water was brought back and used to irrigate fields, is the regulation still being violated?
But are they doing that?
Hell no. That would make sense.
No.
How would you bring it back?
@@peggyisme Pump it back into the trucks.
Permits aside, he knew full well the water wasn't for the use intended.
Exactly, arrangements for disposal of test water will require additional permits.
What happened to that water after the tanks were tested?
Did it just get dumped back...eventually, to the aquifer?
That’s absolutely insane you can’t do what you want on your own property
Holy crap. You mean reporters actually investigate?
Well Sauro's doesn't own ALL of them just the big ones.
Imagine living in a world where water is illigal to transport and use.
don't have to imagine...it happens all around every day
It’s coming for. All of us
Communism
Could the water be drained back into trucks after testing and hauled back to the region it was pumped from?
State is upset because they are not making money off of it.
where does the water go after the storage and line tests?
They need millions of gallons of freshwater for each fracking well!
So tell us the fracking story.
Wow what a shocking surprise a politician type ignoring the law
Accountability! Love it. The whole story is good including how the King responded
Thank God I live in Northwest Florida..🙏
Looks like the water is stored,so it’s not a total loss.Once tanks are tested it can be later applied to the irrigation ditches in the area.
But, keep in mind, after construction of the tanks the metal surface is still oily. This means the water is for sure contaminated.
@@billferner6741 and my truck leaks oil, what's your point? Doesn't oil come from the ground?
@@billferner6741 Oops!
@@thomasriggle6371 you don't get it. A drop of oil makes gallons of water unusable.
@billferner6741 you don't get it. Water! It comes from the ground! Oil, it comes from the ground. Is there some kinda secret magic that keeps them separated underground? 🤡
OMG... and seeing the thumbnail I thought someone was illegally dumping toxic waste.... Hard for me in New York to imagine such severe issues with water. Pollution, yes.....
LOOK UP ONANDOGA LAKE IN SYRACUSE, ONE OF THE 10 DIRTIEST LAKES IN THE WORLD....
@@harryballsacky I'm aware of that. I'm over near Conesus/Hemlock. I was poking at them for getting their shorts in a twist over a few truckloads of water, when in some years we have standing water in our lawns all summer.... Seeing the thumbnail with an unlabelled tanker, it gives the initial impression that someone was dumping nasty stuff.....
Great Reporting! Both sides shown
What happened to the water after the leak test?
Former AZ Congressman Sam Steiger, who had a TV show until his stroke, always quoted "Whiskey if for drinking, water is for fighting." This is classic, the land owner is getting punished, NOT THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY? Mr. King should sue that company.
He got an undisclosed amount of cash on that water venture.
@drivenbullet260 not what the state is claiming. Otherwise, they wouldn't of fined him on irrigation for the year. That's just the beginning.
So after the test are done on the tanks.. can't the water be pulled out and used for irrigation?
That is what I was wondering...
I’m sure it can through a filter press to keep the contaminants out.
Only if you have flooded irrigation you can't do nothing with regular pivot sprinkler
Not if it is contaminated,by the construction site
What are they going to do with the water after the testing?
The King ranch has been in business since 1917, and the owner didn't know anything about the water usage rules he was violating? Come on, Mr. King. Really?
It appears to be a case of "anything is for sale for the right price".
Even if Mr King knew he needed a permit or not, his handling of talking to the media with his demeanor is golden. Everyone public figure or company should take note like this in the eyes of controversy and stop being defensive
That sinister smirk on his face sure capped it for me.
"Why dang, I didn't know I needed a permit dang."
Liar.
Once the contractor is finished testing the tanks for leaks, why couldn’t they then return the water back into the water supply or back to the rancher for irrigation???
Just testing a clean tank for leaks wouldn’t contaminate the water at all.
According to the radical left it’s contaminated if fish can’t swim in it it’s contaminated
What a waste of water..especially in such a desolate area..
Good reporting.
Government in central Ohio would have gladly joined the rancher. Develope everything in sight especially if the county gets some money.
Are you talking about Intel I'm from Johnstown
The Johnstown area. The northern pickaway county rickenbacker area. There are many small towns and rural areas being destroyed by county and government greed in Ohio.
How can I give you my email or something like privately so I don't have to put it on here and we can communicate that way I'm just really want to know what you what you got like I've never heard anything about it
What happens to the water after the test is finished? Can it be returned to the aquifer or stored for future use?
Good question. Contaminated
The water they use will be most likely be contaminated depending on what type of "construction" they are doing
Depends if there are any harmful chemicals now in the water ? If not it could be returned or stored in a lake and used for irragation !
Is Prime water considered ground water even though it's created below the crust and there's more than ground water?
That was a great video
What are the construction tanks for, oil, water storage? Are the tanks something that will benefit the community?
who cares? its none of your business.
lol. I love America. All F’d up.
what did the contractor do with the water once the tests were done?
Sounds like the biggest issue is that the government didn't get their cut, I mean "permit fee" up front.
So, what is the construction site going to do with the water when the tanks are tested?
The fact that 35 acres uses that much water for agriculture in the desert is stupid.
One inch of water per acre is 27145 gallons. Times that by 35 acres is almost 1 million gallons. Some crops need 1 inch per week so times that by say two months. That’s not to far off.
Do you eat?
@@farmerbill6855 LMFAO RIGHT!!!
Question now is what happens to all that water once the construction company no longer needs it, when it has to empty those holding tanks... do they just let it drain out onto the ground?
Kings genius plan works out perfectly. He’s not allowed to pump for one year but now will use that sold water to water crops during the one yr ban I’d say.
Doubt it
well that would make more sense than letting it run out ..... at least it wouldnt be wasted
He's only banned from watering 35 acres of his thousands of acres for a year. Did we not all watch the Same video.
That water is contaminated after its test purposes. The state will put the shaft to him if he tries to use it for irrigation purposes. Definitely ruin the local water table s.
What happened to the water after the tank was tested?
Was Larry just hanging out on that particular back road ?
Mr King needs to give every penny he made selling that water back to the community. He didnt care if every citizen suffered from his greed.
It’s his well and water in it is his
it was six days of irrigation not that much. but its a government construction site so now what?
Sorry, Utah is the second driest state. New Mexico is nunber 5. However, water is definitely a critical resource in New Mexico.
I have 36 acres and we can’t seem to find a company to drill a well for us.
We haul water from the community well.
I live in PA, we have water coming out our asses.
So is the water still in those storage tanks?
Great story
But yet the residents of that town would be pissed off if those tanks leaked because they weren't able to be tested with water
How many of those residents have large swimming pools wasting that same water resource.
They didn’t throw the water away. They borrowed it for testing and likely returned it to the farm land where it was used for irrigation.
Nonsense. The water could not be pumped back into the ground and the farm doesn't have above ground storage for that amount of water. You are making comments based on facts not in evidence.
Of course they did! Good grief. Potentially contaminated water with metals and chemicals put back on crops for consumption. That makes so much sense. Not how it works
@@johnboylong40 you haven't the faintest idea of what you are talking about.
@@avsystem3142 Oily water from the inside of a tank should not be pumped back into the ground !
@@fposmith What gives you the idea that the tanks were oily? They were new and being tested for leaks prior to filling. You are just making stuff up with no factual basis.
notice how polite he was about getting caught, that is how you handle it!
Its hard to understand jut this is actually a small amount of water. But the question i have is if the water was used to test the tanks, what was it used for after the tanks were finished, was it used for irrigation? Can the water from the wells supplying the tanks be used to to be returned to the ranch for credits? It is my understanding that there is plenty of water in the Estancia valley aquifer.
It may be "your" understanding that is plenty of water, but if this crap keeps up, there won't be ! Maybe "you" are looking to sell some ! Sounds like it !
@@fposmith I have owned Land in Torrance County in the Moriarty heights area for over 25 years I have a family member that has a section closer to Estancia. And if water was an issue farming would not exist as rain is a rare occasion. People believe they are helping with their 8 gal s month water saving devices as golf courses are using 200 million or even 2 billion gallons a day to water the grass. There are no golf courses near here but there is a turf ranch
@@fposmith sorry you can't do a little research before making sure a dramatic response.
35 acre irrigation penalty. 😂. Even being generous with what you can profit per acre, that’s a pittance compared to what he sold the water for. $$$$$$$$$
He should forfeit the purchase price of the water as well !
That's why he was smiling through the whole interview.
Does it really matter if he knew the law or not? I will surmise, however, that he did, and he also knew the profit from the water sale would far outweigh any punishment that could be judiciously handed out as fines.
So he did exactly what his government would do but yet your attacking the rancher. 🤔
@thomasriggle6371 not to worry, Maga's will be down shortly to camp and protest like a bunch of hippies at Woodstock
Are these King related to the King Ranch in texas?
Name of construction site company etc ?
Kudos to the investigative report looking into this and brining it out into the light of day. Journalists are boss.