Review: Why I Don't Like Dr. Martens Boots
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Dr. Martens is one of the most iconic boots of all time, deeply tied to various music countercultures in the latter half of the 20th century.
Weird fact: the guy who started it all, Dr. Klaus Märtens, was a doctor in the Nazi army toward the very end of World War 2. He injured his foot skiing, didn’t like how Nazi boots felt as he was healing, so he made his own boots with rubber from Luftwaffe airfields after the war.
So in an industry that’s now jam packed with shanks, Goodyear welts, space age soles, and zillion dollar leathers, does the old 1460 still hold up?
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OVERVIEW
A super uncomplicated boot without much stitching, Dr. Martens calls this “full grain leather” but it’s so corrected and thin that it looks like plastic. Otherwise the most notable features are the bouncy rubber sole and the trademark yellow stitching going around the welt. The shaft is also pretty high at over 7 inches, so make sure you have long socks.
LEATHER
It’s true that some people are comfortable calling a leather both full grain and corrected. Horween’s famous full grain leather Chromexcel is considered lightly corrected, for example. (Horween themselves told me that.)
But I’m wary of being told I’m an idiot for calling something “full grain corrected grain” so I’m calling this corrected grain. It’s from either South America or Asia (that’s all they could tell me) and while they say it’s “famously stiff,” I found it more thin and plasticky than anything else.
One cool thing is that you can get these in just about any color you can imagine (they have several floral patterns) and there’s even a Chromexcel if you want to pay the extra.
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LEATHER CARE
Use their “Wonder Balsam,” which is made mostly of lanolin, beeswax, and coconut oil. I know a lot of people just use coconut oil, but the beeswax is important for weatherproofing. If that’s your priority though, they also sell a product called Dubbin Polish to add a layer of wax to the outside.
SOLE
The main event, this sole is definitely my favorite part of the shoe. It’s soft but not too soft and it has great traction and shock absorption. It’s a little squeaky on indoor surfaces, but this may abate with time.
After the rubber sole there’s a cork midsole and some polyurethane foam, which would help with the shock absorption.
Downsides: there’s no shank and it’s extremely hard to resole. Some people specialize in Dr. Martens soles, but don’t expect to be able to resole them.
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FIT & SIZING
Size down one half or one full size. They have no half sizes available and no other widths, which will disappoint a ton of people.
In general, this doesn’t fit the foot super well. It has a blobby, generic shape that didn’t contour the natural shape of my foot well.
PRICE
Between $120 and $145. If you’re patient, it’s not hard to find a place where they’re on sale.
VERDICT
Dr. Martens Pros
• Inexpensive
• Sole is super soft
• Pretty water resistant
• Casual, can be worn with a t-shirt
• Cultural icon
Dr. Marten Cons
• Laces come undone easily
• Difficult to resole
• Doesn’t fit very well, pretty shapeless
• Lack of a shank
• Thin, plasticky leather
• Not versatile
• Not very mature or masculine
I don’t love these shoes. Read my full review for more of my reasoning - Google “stridewise dr martens.”
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13:07 who hurt you bruh?
when he says “they’re inexpensive “ I died a little inside
Good boots start at around $200 so for a boot their on the cheap side
Solovair are around the 200 dollar mark
beautyizthegeek doc martens are around 140 give or take which is what he talks about
Red Wings or Wolverines are $200+ so that's what he means. Docs go on sale in many sites all the time so you could get it cheaper if you look for it.
they are inexpensive ... my FRYE boots were 550.00 CAD
I've been wearing Doc Martens here in the UK since 1973 when I was thirteen and I still love them. After the break-in period they're like slippers. Now, at 57, I'm the 'old man' you speak of. And guess what? I really don't care too much what others think because I have comfortable, relatively hard wearing footwear that doesn't cost the earth. Being an older man, wearing hard leather soled shoes/boots feels like someone gently tapping the back of your head with a small wooden mallet for every step. Not so with my trusty old DM's. Right now I have two pairs, the 1460 you have here and the limited 'For Life' run (now discontinued, but still honoured) both in black.. If I live long enough to need a new pair, I'll be getting the Made In England version in the tan colour. If people are so shallow that they think an 'older man' looks childish because of his footwear then that's cool as well. Better than being ignored completely (which is what happens when you get older)......
The soft sole certainly has its upsides and it's true the boot was originally designed for folks with orthopedic issues.
I'm 61and still wear them..
@@henryhartley9993 Nice one Henry...:)
PREACH!
@@larrybarnette884 Not sure I understand your comment Larry.
Feminine? Yes. Actually, a lot of nice the men's clothes that gained traction on men's fashion advice channels like slim jeans, white button-downs, and shirt -sleeve v-neck tees have a subtle feminine edge. I believe fashion is best when the best elements of masculine and feminine design are brought together without anyone realizing it.
JohnNathanShopper that’s a very interesting perspective! Thanks for the input John.
well worded.
Button-down shirts? Feminine? Button-down shirts (or Polo collars, as known by Brooks Brothers) were used by Polo players to keep their collars from flapping all over the place.
Jeans only became slim because they were slowly incorporated into the fashion cycle. As evidenced by LVC (not the best source, but easiest to find), the 1922 jean is much wider than those from the 50s and 60s, despite the 20s and the 60s having a similar pendulum swing in silhouette.
What I mean to say by all of this is that there's frankly nothing feminine about these clothing. Not to say that you're wrong, in fact I quite agree. But one needs to recognise where the femininity comes from. Jeans, for example, have meant masculinity, ruggedness and toughness for a century now.
Punks and skins wore skinny pants long before some bitch in fashion thought it was cool. The same people who used to make fun of me, now wear what I was wearing back in the day. It's pathetic.
@@regandonohue3899 not only that mate, slim jeans require less fabric, but the price remains the same. It's a no brainer the denim industry will stay from now on on the narrower side of jeans :)
You know who also worked for the nazis? Hugo Boss. And I don't see a lot of people not wearing his clothes for that reason.. Also, Adi Dassler made shoes for the Nazi Army, yes that's Adidas.
People had to do certain things back then just to survive. Doesn't mean they still have or ever had the same opinions that the people they worked for.
Very true, I didn't say that Marten working for the Nazis meant he loved Nazism and I didn't even put that in the 'cons' section as a reason to dislike the boots, I just thought it was interesting.
Wernher von Braun also worked for the Nazis, and thanks to him humanity made it to the moon!
Also puma
The Nazis had style in their clothing but bad ideology though
@@soulboygabicci5681 you really think so? Or were they misunderstood?
I have had the same pair of Dr. Martens for 5 years. I wear them multiple times a week. I have worn them to 10+ music festivals. They are so comfortable and they keep my feet dry and warm. The leather stays in great condition if you just moisturize them every 6 months or so. The sole hardly has any wear at all, and they are awesome for climates where we get a lot of snow. They have a lot of grip.
Also, what planet do you live on where $140 is a cheap shoe? That sounds incredibly pretentious. That is a lot of money to most people.
My Martens last between three and five years, usually I've worn out the sole. I wear them like August to May or something like that. And in on rainy summers days. Last time I bought a pair (two weeks ago actually) I paid 153 bucks. To me, that's a lot of money but since they last me years it's more like n investment.
he said $140 is cheap for boots, not a shoe
They have absolutely zero grip on an icy surface but I think that's not the conditions they were designed for.
Aside from that, they're really quality boots. I'm still rocking my 1460 (made in vietnam) which I bought about 3 years ago and I wear them practically every day from Oct to Apr
@@harmonireihana Are you on the spectrum?
@@pannihto7588 No, they suck on ice. I'm a city boy though so for me personally, it's not a problem.
Coolest boots ever made. Doesn't matter if you're male, female, nine or ninety! You can wear them with anything from jeans to a suit, never heard such nonsense....
Henry Hartley that’s controversial and cmon give the guy a break with his opinion.. but at the same time, I agree with you Henry.
I would not wear these with a suit
One of the best boots one of two my favorites with Caterpillars!
No you cannot wear these with a suit, unless you want to look like a damn dofus with no clue about style.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH or you lack enough confidence to be able to carry it off.
I mean I definitely wasn't expecting heavy black boots to be called feminine but... I guess?
@David Optional Someone is cranky about other people having fun with fashion.
@@RedGalago you're so annoying
I've personally seen more women than men wearing Doc Martens. When I recently tried on a pair while shopping with my gf she also said they're more popular with women
@David Optional
How many times a week do you reckon you say "sheep"? And you also used the buzzword "special." I'd be willing to wager that you're a MAGA incel.
I bought Docs as rock/metalhead and knowing the history of these boots girls wearing them honestly annoy me for what theyve done to the image of Martens boots. From rock/punk boots to some blonde pop retard bullshit
you wanna know why people in their 30s, 40s or 50s are wearing them? coz they've lasted that long that they are STILL wearing them long after they bought them. they're just so used to them that they refuse to wear anything else. it's like part of their feet and has conformed to the shape of their feet over the use of it. which is what you can say about any well broken in boot. these boots have been cool since the 2nd half of the 20th century. so obviously you'll see a few old people still rocking a pair on the street. nothing wrong with that.
Yeah the consensus is that the older docs are much higher quality than what's on the market now.
@@Stridewise I still own a pair made in the very late 2000s that are made in England. They're still working well for me. I don't wear them a lot but they haven't disintegrated on me yet.
franzb69 37 still wearing them
franzb69 I would never know what’s it like to have boot last me for years
@@chickennugget9004 maybe you've chosen wrong or never took care of yours
Stridewise: complains about the shoes being uncomfortable and not fitting the foot
Also Stridewise: didn't break the shoe in, or get the right size
great logic dude.
Eirin Jensen 😂
Eirin Jensen there’s no half sizes so he can’t get the right size.
This dude has reviewed more boots than you'll ever own. He is fully aware of the process break in takes. The fact of the matter is that Doc Martens doesn't cushion their soles hardly at all.
@@brandonkey181 ok king
Have to respectfully disagree. When you buy Docs you're not looking to conform or care much about versatility. Like a classic Range Rover, the form follows function. The patina over time is based on the experience you create in them...your Docs are cool if you're cool.
Your comment made me smile, Gaylon. Glad to have your dissent here :)
@@Stridewise Wasn't much of Doc guy but it was an iconic brand that I wanted to give a try. I bought the Newton, which is Doc trying to appeal to people who don't know the brand's cache and just compare them on the face value merits like yourself. If you review that boot you'll find it's perfect for being on your feet all day, has a more versatile silhouette but definitely won't last as long as traditional Docs as the leather is super soft and they've used weight reducing technology throughout the shoe to make more comfortable for the average person right out of the box. A Doc purist's worst nightmare, but probably will be a great seller. Finally, and as a Black man who knows the history of most American, British, Italian, French and Australian clothing and shoe companies- if I held their histories' against them now, I couldn't shop with 90% of most brands.
This made me want to buy a pair. You should start a career in advertising lol
They're made like shit. Solovair are better
Yes just like Range Rover, falls apart swiftly!
You can’t wear Docs with slacks??? Are you serious?? Docs go with literally EVERYTHING!!! I can wear sweats or a dress with my Docs and they look great! Come on man, really?!
Women wear them differently, I'm not about to comment on what works well with women's outfits.
Lol! I am just giving you a hard time! It’s all good. I respect your opinion, they aren’t for everybody and that’s just fine 😜😊
Hate to tell you this, but they don't look great in a dress. In fact, they look the opposite of great. If you like the way you look with them in a dress, that's all that counts though.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH fashion police.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH big disagree
Made in England are infinitely better. Been to the factory which was a fantastic experience. Respect to Made in Asia for company survival. "For teenagers "???? Mate I was wearing DM's before you were a twinkle in your Fathers eye... 👍 and I will wear them to my grave... Rock & Roll baby!!!
Eric Blac “Mature”? Crickey, I hope not🤗😂🤓
KurJan&Urbano You sound like those obese father that’s trying to be cool at BBQ party.
It's the same for all actually, it gives appeal
@@ardhifarzhan3172 You just described me...exactly..!!
KurJan&Urbano ...I bought a pair of made in vietnam cherry red 1461s. High quality, the leather is amazing and so is the build, super solid and took a long time to break in. As nice as the Made in England, my only complaint is the wide size. Next time I'd go for the MIE ones just for the narrower version.
*Teens get them for the look, dads get them for the soft soles.*
brug you dont look like the type of guy i woudl take fashion tips from
OOOOF
@@hellopeoples7264 lol but its the truth, or am I wrong?
@@adamfilms9140 naw you right all the way lmaoo
Sad but true
Bahahahaha
You talk crap I'm in my 50s and love wearing them it's not just the young that wear them.
He didn’t talk crap he gave his honest opinion on the boots good and bad
I've been wearing them since I was a teenager. 48 now, and still no intention of changing. Very comfortable, hard wearing, and English.
@@gallimead but they are not English, unless you wanna spend even more.
Originally it was made for above 40s people so it suit you granpa
@@oneashralph4076 genrally only hipsters wear doc martins- and then tell people tht they have real dc martins as if anyone cares. A good boot no doubt ( i own some ) but a boring looking and plain shoe.
Worn a pair made in Thailand since 2009. They’re tough, they’ll take a beating, they’re really comfortable and once you break them in thoroughly, you don’t even need to lace them up fully. The sole flexes with no heel slippage even the laces untied. The shiny leather cracks pretty easily and it isn’t pretty but they are iconic and they aren’t going anywhere.
Yeah! I love the fact that once broken in, they don't need to be laced, they just fit. The breaking in sucks though.
I'm 37 and have been wearing Doc's since I was a teenager. I like the comfortable fit and I love the iconic yellow stitching. I wasn't aware they were only for young people. I guess I just don't really pay attention to fashion trends. Although I have been salivating over some Thursday boots and want to give them a try.
Yeah I mean I hold no grudges against folks who don't care about fashion trends :) I just got my second pair of Thursdays, great boots!
A Rodriguez don’t worry keep rocking them! I’m 20 and have a pair but I’ve always thought one of the beauty’s of them is that they suit and are loved by all ages
Same here mate. Both age and rocking them since my teens. If Martens are trend, they've been trendy all my life. Quite a long trend if you ask me.
This review is good but you come off as the type of man who looks down on people who can't afford £/$200+ shoes. The amount of comfort I got from some redwings I had were great. I think you're never gonna break out of the niche you're in giving terrible reviews to popular shoes and then critiquing them for being really cheap", not to say they don't deserve a bad review, it's your opinion, I'm still gonna wear mine and your review won't affect me, maybe just don't review popular boots if you don't want your dislike bar to look the way it is. $140 is not cheap at all for the common people. I'm lucky to own the shoes and boots I do, and I realise not everyone can dish out the money, but you really do come off as "pretentious" because all I can glean from this review is you are a snobby, rich man who hates shoes that are $140, you also personally look down men over 30 by calling them feminine, and that they should get with the times, what you said is insulting. People disliking this video shouldn't be complaining about what you said about the shoe, but how terribly you came off within it
Hey Brandon, thanks for your comment. I have to say I don't think a shoe being cheap is a bad thing at all, I'm a huge cheapskate and value for money is a big priority. It's why I think Thursday ($199) is the best boot on the market and I really like Timberlands and LL Bean shoes which are around the same price. I just don't like these boots in particular, for a bunch of reasons outside looking cheap.
@@Stridewise I'm actually glad you elaborated, I feel I came off quite harsh, and it was no way a comment on your actual character. But why start an argument over opinion? you've gotten a lot of interaction over this video and rightly so, criticizing a beloved boot will draw so much attention, but getting mad at your review or you yourself is weird. I was in no way looking for a fight and I hope that's understood. To attack your character by a complete ad-hominem fallacy because you came off a certain way is wrong you know?
Stridewise Have you tried Steel Blue boots... Argyle or Portland models are my fav variety
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Zahinn water fired
You're washed up
Blurry James you’re retired
Ur kitty looks like a flat tire
Juli T I bet that your kitty real tired
I've been wearing Docs for over 30 years. Yes I know I'm old. They aren't made as durable as they use to but still love them. Their soles are still very comfortable, but the leather uppers have gone way down in quality. The newer models tend to crack a lot more than the older models.
Fully agree.. whats happening with the new leather.. it’s supper stiff at the start and then cracks.
@@tilan6944 which is Why you need to use the balsam to soften it.
Dude in what universe is $140 cheap? I won't be able to afford a new pair until mine completely die. Also like the style thing is completely subjective and no one can really say that a mohawk and docs don't make a fucking statement
In the universe of boots anything under $300 is considered pretty cheap. And yes, of course this is all subjective, Jami! This is just my opinion and I totally respect yours. Hope you like your boots :)
Considered by who?
@@fatgirlsdiggraves By anyone buying welted leather boots. There's 3 or 4 Welted Womens boots such as the Wolverine 1000 Mile and they're $300 each. Mens full grain leather, good year welted boots start at $150 for the cheapest pair of througoods or redwings. So yeah, $140 for a welted boot is a steal.
@@Stridewise sounds like bullshit but ok
Have y'all even visited any of the popular online boot communities? Anything under $200 is often considered on the lower-end of "budget" options. You see things like Red Wings or Wolverine 1000 Miles get recommended as "cheaper" options. This shit can get really expensive. Though, I understand your point. $150 IS a lot... TO US. See, it's all about perspective. Ask a multi-billionaire if that 500,000 they spent on a Tesla is a lot. Granted, that may be an extreme example, but you get my point. I could never drop $500 on some boots and actually WEAR them outside... lol
Tip for everyone: Get the ones made in the UK. The ones made in China will break super quickly, and will wear out much easier. The docs made in England is more expensive, but is very much worth every penny. Will last you for a while and much more sturdy.
Ur Fave Internet Troll how can you figure out where yours are made?
AGM You can search up “Dr. Martens made in England” and you’ll find results pretty quickly on their website. But on their websites, the ones made in England will usually say so if you look for them.
Parts of the "Made in England" are also made in China. Lol. They pretty much just assemble the boot now only. They are better than the ones made in Asia but still very bad. Go with the Solovair boot. They are made exactly the same as the old DM made in England
@@sweetLemonist I got hold on 4 pairs of Solovair (1 NPS) and 5 pairs of Dr Martens.. I can't believe how uncomfortable and crappy the Dr MArtens quality is in comparison with Solovair. I mean, Solovair is like a boot I can put in my living room as a piece of art. It's solid quality in all ways. Got myself some Made in England Docs because I read those are better and am appaled. THE leather looks like leather mixed with cardboard, the stitching is crappy. How is every Dr MArtens website and every comment filled with 'excellent quality' and 'durable' and 'beautiful' is beyond me. No break in period for some people ? So ok, we are not living in the same kind of human body.
Interesting review on an iconic boot. I have owned one pair years ago, they were brown shoes and actually the leather and quality was quite good. The sole didn't excite me so much. Too squeeky and squishy for me but I enjoyed the style. I'm surprised they told you it's a goodyear welted boot because cobblers usually wont touch these for any sole problems. Apparently the welt is made of PVC (not leather like most boots) and the sole is then heat melted onto the welt. Seems like an unusual process but it's worked for them and it probably is very securely attached and won't separate. Essentially they are-throw away boots once the sole is worn out. For the price, that might be fine for some. Thanks again for your excellent reviews. I always watch them.
Yeah like I said, I think they call it a Goodyear welt because the upper is attached to the PVC welt which is then attached to the sole, as opposed to it being directly attached to the sole so they can get away with saying Goodyear welt but I feel like they're playing kind of fast and loose with those definitions haha. But yeah, very few cobblers will even attempt to resole these. Glad you liked the video, Duke!
So you're only gonna like the comments of people who agree with you and don't like Docs. 😂
Eh I like the nice comments
@Michael Paul Why on Earth are you being so aggressive? If people are rude I ignore or delete them, if they're respectful they stay and I like them. This is not a weird way for a person to act.
@@Stridewise lmao strongly worded opinion, true, but he isn't wrong 😂
Also, someone saying men above 30 wearing these look sad, is not rude? Is that respectful to you? It's only disrespectful when they aren't agreeing with you it seems.
If you read my response to you and thought 'his feelings are hurt' then your comprehension skills need work.
@Michael Paul Whatever you say champ
Not over 30 but these boots look great. Don’t listen to this guys opinions any age could wear these.
Yes, of course any age can wear this, you can also wear converse when your in your 60s, you just look stupid even more than doc martin.
In addition, they look shit . :D
Zhemin Lin beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That’s your opinion that they look shit, not mine. There shouldn’t be restrictions on age. Rather be 60 wearing converses then be 60 wearing monarchs.... In addition you look like shit😑
@@erin7995
Totally cool if you wear them, but you can't argue that they look cheap and not classy!
LoL
Zhemin Lin dude they look cheap because they are cheap... and who ever said there supposed to be classy? That’s not what there intended for they are work boots your supposed to go to work in them. Now compare them to other boots in this category and there hard to beat in price and aesthetics.
I wouldnt take fashion advice from this guy. He sound too flowery to me.
Firstly, Dr Martens are also made in Vietnam, and Vietnam make the half sizes. Dr Martens certainly do have a shank. I have cut the soles of several pairs of DM's to see what's inside the sole. Personally, I think they would be better off without the shank. DM's have a wooden shank that can actually break in half from severe flexibility (possibly from squatting), and then that break can cause a popping sound within the sole when walking. One thing that shits me about DM's is that the welt is only stitched to the leather upper. It needs to be glued as well, otherwise there can be squeaking caused by the welt being able to move independently and rub against the leather. This tends to happen when the yellow stitching loosens slightly from wear. Apart from all this, I love Dr Martens. I am 44 and have worn them for years and have many pairs. I wear 8, 10 and 14 hole DM's. They are not a boot for Nazis. DM's are popular among skinheads because they were a working class boot during the 70's-80's, and traditional skinheads are working class. Real Nazis will never wear DM's because they moved production to Asia, and no self-respecting Nazi is going to wear Asian-made boots. The English DM's have stronger, more porous leather and a stronger sole that doesn't wear down as quickly. They were never designed to be a fashion boot for teenagers. In England they were the boot issued for factory workers, Police that patrolled on foot, the postman delivering letters on foot, school students and I think even the military at one point. Despite what they have now become, DM's were a working mans boot that became popular with punk bands, skinheads and the working class British due to their durability and quality, and as long as you buy English-made DM's, there's no reason why they shouldn't remain that way with grown men.
Such an ignorant review!
Is there a thing like a "self respecting nazi", if a person is a nazi are they self respecting at all?
older DMs had shanks, but the newer ones do not. The shank on the vintage ones were wooden, and would break anyway.
@@tarass8737 Imagine being that dense
I'm 56 and just bought a pair of DM Chelsea boots yesterday. Love my Docs.
I just bought some DM Chelsea's also. I had a pair about 10 yrs ago and they lasted a very long time. In fact, I had to force myself to buy a new pair and retire the old ones. I might do an unboxing and review on youtube. I think mine are made in Taiwan, my fingers are crossed that I get a good amount of use out of them.
him: 140 well that’s like fairly inexpensive
Me: ...
Still buys them anyways cos they're amazing 😂
It is for a boot with this type of construction!
chasity kindred Good boots start at $300
Stridewise but you literally said in the video that you didn’t like them because you think they’re cheaply made (which they’re not) one of my biggest pet peeves is when people contradict themselves
@@dakotamars4579 they are cheaply made you’re just riding the doc Martin train, the only boots made worse than these are timbs
Great video again bud.. my mum bought my first pair of DM's in 1978 (oxblood). I wore them everyday for 6 years to school, at night and weekends. I would say most if not all the lads in school wore them... late 70s early 80s. From climbing walls to school discos, they are a great tough and versatile boot... not sure about the newer boots lasting that long though..
In high school these were the coolest boots in the whole world, for sure. I went to a school where the uniform was black leather shoes and all the kids who wore Docs with the yellow thread would get in trouble, god damn they seemed like the coolest shoes on Earth back when I was a teen haha
If the laces come undone easily, you should try some better knot. There’s many other better knots.
Or put another pair of laces on. Hint: you can replace shoelaces for a few dollars.
Why are people disliking for his opinion? Its a high quality video that gives the backstory of the brand and respectfully gives his opinion and reasoning.
Man, you really struck a nerve with this video. Must be a shit ton of Doc Marten fanboys. I agree with most of the points you made in the video. . .
Lol in my day you would have got dr martens round your ear for saying they are girly
They are girly in my opinion.
as someone who likes Dr martens, nobody cares about your day
Yeah these pussies would have got curb stomped..
@@jklax they are not girly, just many girls use them now....
Ok boomer
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ThatsABigYIKES SUGONMA 😂
We never would have known if he didn't mention it 😂😂
They're not broken in until you've worn them 3-4 days a week for two years straight, and at that point, they're just getting started. I've never heard anyone say they look feminine. For comfort, though, they're the best. Lace yours tighter. Keep wearing them. Be sure you have the right size. They seem to lace more tightly after you've worn them longer. Mine always stay tied, but of course, there's a method of lacing them so that they never come untied. A friend showed me and said it was the skinhead way. I prefer mine laced the traditional way, and if you don't think they go with certain outfits or pants styles (or are acceptable footwear for people over a certain age), I've got a bird to show you, too.
I bought my first pair of docs this week after wanting them for like 4 years. My dad was a teenager in the 1970s (punk era) in London and loved his docs and was so happy when I got mine. I’m living in London in 2010s and they are still insanely popular. They are timeless, incredibly comfortable (when broken in) and you can wear them with anything, jeans, shorts, dresses, anything, male or female. I have very slim feet but it doesn’t make any difference to me at all. Obviously you’re entitled to your own opinion but to me this video seems like you don’t understand docs at all.
Also hate the gender stereotyping in this video, educate yourself man.
"Gender stereotyping"... get over yourself girl.
How did you find them with slimmer feet? I went to a store to try some on today but they just seemed too loose for me
@David Optional Ohhhhh, gatekeeping.
David Optional punk from the 70s isn’t the same as punk now. Most people who wear docs now don’t want to be punks, they just like the way it looks. They’re not faux punk because they’re not trying to be punk at all
Silvia van Lieshout he literally said as a CON for the boots, “it makes the outfit a little less manly”. It’s a big black boot, just because they’re popular with girls means he feels emasculated wearing them, so stupid.
I got blisters wearing my 1641 shoe doc martens about 2 weeks ago, i bought exactly the model you are reviewing, i took precautions this time i wore thick socks and patch protections, as far as today these boots are the most comfortable footwear I've ever wear, no joke, soo soft when walking with or without anti-bilster precautions
That’s 14 minutes I’ll never get back
All the sorority girls came out to give this a dislike
kek
Awesome review thanks for sharing.
“Our kosher review task is not to tell the truth; we are opinion molders.”
you have to buy Made in England! it is a big difference!
Yeah I think I need to!
What do you think about Corcoran jump boots
I still got a pair I bought over 15 years ago. Punctured the air soles over time and some of the folds did crack through all the way eventually, even though they were very well taken care of. The steel toe caps also started to rust as they started to take in water. Still, they seem to be of a higher quality compared to the new ones. I've never bought another pair since because they just don't feel right anymore compared to my old ones. Way more flimsy and the leather and overall feel just seem off compared to the old ones. I believe you can be far better off for the price they ask.
*To the people in the comments saying this guy doesn't know what he is talking about*
This guy is reviewing these from the perspective of someone who is really into boots. Most people who wear Doc Martins, are people who don't know a lot about boots and don't need them to be durable beyond just them walking around urbanized areas in them. You shouldn't shit on him when he's just being honest. They aren't that durable, and high quality. Mainly, that's because they don't need to be. Their target audience is mainly teens who are into street fashion at this point. Nothing wrong with that, just pointing it out.
Goodmorning/evening. I was just wondering. As i am really into boots myself and own many (fry, justins, wolverines, ariat, catipillar just to name my usual rotation) i was just wondering what you consider durable. I have docs that i use on the farm in rotation with all the above and they hold up just fine. From my own perspective i dont find they are inferior to any of the aforementioned. Ive even taken them on hikes and they hold up wonderfully. How exactly have your experiences differed?
@@adurnaebrithil Personally, I've never owned a pair, but I go to a college where they're as common as common can be. Although most of them seem to hold up well for what people put them through, I can't say I see them being more durable than a pair of my boots. Let's say my Carolina's, for instance. I've owned my pair of them since the 10th grade and put them through construction/carpentry work, many camping trips, hikes, and tons of wear. I still wear them. Whereas some of the kids on my campus had to replace their Dr. Martins after about a year's wear on a college campus. I don't necessarily think they're bad shoes, but I feel that there may be some inconsistency in the quality control and that you can get better boots for around the same price. Just how I see it from my own experience.
@@adurnaebrithil I got one word for you - Danner. Some of the best work boots I have ever worn.
@@GWizJackson My apologies for the tardy response. I wanted to get to a proper computer instead of my cell phone. From what I have heard myself carolinas are a handsome and durable boot, and though I have never owned a pair I may just consider getting some to try. Where I am from Docs are not common in any capacity, and from the 100 plus mile range I tend to travel to and from I only ever see a handful. I will admit to you that I have heard that there are come quality issues, and perhaps I just got lucky with the pair that I have. It is sad to see that my experience is not necessarily uniform across all spectrums as I do love them and their history. If you ever do want to try them I beeseach you to at least once, and if not I respect that decision. Though I have had my pair for a short 4 years I still find they hold up the same as when I got them out of the box. Although I never took them on a contruction/carpentry job around this time they are in mud, cold, and water due to sugar cane harvesting season. of course again this is purely through my subjective experience. I appreciate the conversation you have had with me on this topic. to often people on the internet forget tha the person on the other side is also a human being. With that said. Any recommendations for a first pair of Carolinas? You have peaked my interest.
@@Lex-Rex Thank you for your recommendation. It is almost black Friday after all. Any reccomendatioins for a particular style of that boot for a first pair?
This is blasphemy
Hahahahahaha
I work in a bar and walk ten miles a day in them. I had the shiny ones at first but the leather cracked from constant beer and water on them. The greasy ones work a lot better. They are cheap and ugly but I haven't found a boot that is more comfortable and slip resistant. With monthly cleaning and wax application, the greasy ones will last under any conditions.
Also, the soles wear down fast (I'm on my 3rd pair in a year) but they are still worth it. After an 11 hour shift of constantly running around, my feet are the only part of my body that doesn't hurt.
Yeah that's a great assessment, like I say in the video the sole is definitely super comfortable and has great traction, it's my favorite part of the boot. Bummer you have to keep getting new ones, then again I get a new pair of Chuck Taylors like every year haha
Docs are childish for anyone over 30, but Chuck Taylors fit the mature look? Come on. Make a video on how sad it is that most older men wear trainers of ANY kind with regularity. Now THAT is
truly tragic.
You can check out Goodyear Welted shoes. Red Wings are the usual go tos.
Same here! I constantly get chemicals spilled on my boots non stop and they’re perfect! I have the 1460 greasy in the color black ( the same ones in this video) I have another pair of Docs (Pascal in pewter spectra patent) and they are SO much harder on my feet than my 1460 greasy!! The very first day I put on my 1460 greasy they were absolutely comfortable!! I can’t imagine my life without my Docs! ❤️
You need to buy the made in UK vintage boots
That's what they tell me :)
I have some but im never going to wear them in because they kill my feet so much so I have to sell them 😭
Review: why I don't like your opinion
I might’ve just gotten lucky, but all 3 pairs I’ve bought (not exactly sure the names of them) have all worked perfectly and I’ve had them for about 4 years. They’re still almost as good as they were when I bought them new.
i had to shell out 300 dollars for mine, because they where imported to where i live, then the retailer marked them up drastically.
I happened to work in Northamptonshire and we had a factory shop in rushden diamonds football club. Not far from their factory in Wollaston.
You seem quite critical about DMs. However I always end up buying a new pair every few years.
Main reason being, I have two pairs of docs since over 25 years which refuse to die. The leather has remained good and the soles haven’t come off.
One of them is a pair of made in England work boots. Simply indestructible.
Another pair is I think 3818. After 25 years the print is a bit faded.
I would never have expected any boots to last that long. But mine did, used regularly and still comfortable
However. I did have a bad experience with crazy horse 2976 Chelsey boots where the elastic went wonky and soles started to come off both boots. DM gave me replacement as it was in warranty period.
Inspite of that;
Last month I bought 2976 nubuck. They are ultra comfortable.
I’m tempted to buy their made in England chelsie boot but I’ll hang on for now.
This the most versatile boots I ever wear, pair it with slim fit jean, chinos to emphasize the look of the boots and you'll see that the boots itself is rocking your entire outfit.
INCREDIBLY CHEAP? Did you smoke shoe polish?
I don't think any boot guy is into dr. Martens
That's because you won't choose docs when you know there are way better boots out there, including most of the cheap surplus boots
Not sure if anyone’s mentioned this but the original company that made DMs still makes boots with the original DM quality. They’re called Solovair
10:40 😂 Cheap??
In my country, they cost about 5000 CZK (approx. $200). That's really expensive. Some other brands, such as Steel or Boots&Braces you can get for under 3000 CZK (approx. $130). But what's the difference in quality, I don't know.
In my country it costs around 20000 INR and thats almost the salary of a lower middle class person.
I used to skate in 3 hole oxbloods in the 90s.
This is awesome! I was going to ask of you were going to do Docs! Haven't watched yet, but I'm excited for it!
I'm house wife over the age of 40 and I'm pretty friggin cool
LOL Funny how many of you call these boots femenine. Firts they werw not developped by any nazi doctor, but by a exmilitary one who designed boots with aircushioned soles to be used for people with foot injuries. Then the patent was bought by an english factory. For those of you who desn't know, Doc Martens, when stablished in the UK, was the TO GO boot for hard workers: thought leather, antislip rubber sole, air cushioned to make it confortable to wear the whole working day and with steel toe cover to avoid accidents. This was, again, a workers boot from the fifties till the 80. They were adopted by early skinheads in the sixties (there were not right wingers at that time) as a sign of working class identity, same as many boots in the USA like the Timberlands. Then in the late 70's it became the shoe for punk, new wave, afterpunk, mods.. they were not as expensive, thougt and cool to wear. I have owned made in UK Martens and they were excellent for the money, the sole was very hard to wear, they held to your knee and the cushios sole made them extremely confortable. A thought boot made for the city. When the factories moved to China and other countries the quality dropped down
I'm 55 and I have 3 pair! BASTARD! 🤣🤣🤣 I wear them mainly for comfort, as I do a lot of walking. The quality has definitely declined since manufacturing moved to Asia. A good alternative is Solovair made at NPS. They produced the original Dr Martens boots in the late 50s. Solovair boots are still made at the same factory in Wollaston, Northamptonshire.
I love the quality of my Solovair, but the last is different. Docs still make the English version and English Vintage style which are very good.
Trüe Brit for sure I can see the appeal if the sole is your biggest priority
@@Stridewise Well if you haven't got sole, what HAVE you got? Cod perhaps 😐 Good review and very accurate. I bought my Docs in Canada. They are 1460s but they have more shape to them than the pair in your video. Yours go straight up from the heel where as mine slope inwards conforming more to the shape of my feet. They have broken in nicely and have really molded to my feet. I can see what you mean by yours being shapeless.
@@aportilla007 Yes the MIEs are very nice and quite reasonable. We have a factory in Vancouver called Dayton boots. Their popular styles run almost a thousand dollars a pair.close to 600 pound!
I'm 50. Love my DM's. However, I only buy Made in England... Love them.
Another nice video! I knew very little about Doc Martens Boots. After watching your very informative and educational video, I’ve learned as much as I need to know about these boots :). After watching a number of your videos, Nick, I’m confident that you provide a fair and accurate assessment of this boot. I’ve learned that Doc Martens aren’t necessarily for me. For starters, having a boot which is taller than my socks would drive me crazy. On the other hand, they are quite reasonably priced which might make this a good “starter” boot for a younger person. I look forward to seeing your new productions and this video did not fail. Great job!
Glad you learned something Ed, that's what these videos are all about! As a first boot for a young man who is transitioning from sneakers yeah, these can fit the bill, especially pricewise. But you've got to grow out of them at some point haha :)
Regarding the shape of the boot, the blobby-ness of doc Martens suck if your foot doesn't fit that well. But part of the purpose of the break-in period of doc Martens is reshaping the shoe, to better fit the feet that are wearing the shoes. Whether or not the break in period hurts, it is loosening the material so that the boot feels more unique to your foot. The reason why a lot of people support doc Martens, I find, is the comfort it provides. In fact, that is why they were even made. doc Martens have become a stylish boot, commonly associated with people who consider themselves as rebels or outcasts, etc. When I received my 1460s, the leather was very stiff and so I didn't even think about the thickness of the leather. However, the thickness of the leather didn't seem to have much of an effect on anything. Doc Martens do tend to have a squeaking problem, but I have seen a video that shows a solution if the squeaking is a problem. As stated earlier in the video, the boots mold to your feet, so how exactly did you expect them to fit? although, I do agree that there should maybe be a a wider version available. One thing I find great about doc Martens, is the association with the ability to do whatever you want, wearing them however pleases you most.
Black leather boots, famously worn by skinheads and punk rockers "feminine" 😂😂 ok
Leather is cheap on these boots in my own opinion redwing much better value yes they are twice as much but the leather is superior
I picked up a pair of their Leos (unfortunately discontinued) a while back and they have almost none of the issues that the 1460s have. Thicker leather with a more matte charcoal color, flannel(ish) lining, and less corrected leather that has aged surprisingly well. I've had them for nearly 6 years and they definitely look good considering all the abuse I've put them through. The lugs on the sole are about half of their original size and polished smooth and the heel is starting to separate, but they still keep my feet dry and look damn decent doing it
I got these boots in a brown leather in 1996 when I was a sophomore in college. I am 41 now and still have them. They are INDESTRUCTIBLE!!! I wear them sometimes in winter when it is cold/snowy/wet out. Got to admit I still love them and they have been worth every penny because they seem to last FOREVER.
Yeah that was pre Asia move. How's the sole looking?
@@Stridewise pretty much like new. I got them because I was in college in upstate NY...it was cold and snowy and icy and I needed a boot I could wear everyday. So they took a beating for four years. I did need to replace the laces once but otherwise they are indestructible! Not sure this link will work. But here they are in all their glory: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207192940996384&l=a3160879b1
WOW, great pic! I love a good shot of well loved boots.
Nope and NOPE
51 year old man love my Docs. When You grow up your going to look back at these vids and cringe.
@Andrea Candle
Could be both 🤔
@Stridewise - I understand what you mean. I think that it's the black color that sometimes comes off a little as "in-your-face" or "attitudey." But if you get them in the brown leathers, like Gaucho or Aztec, they look much better and supple. Kind of a rugged work/hiking boot vibe. I'm 32 and I own a pair of Gaucho's, and in my opinion, the browns are much more subtle and "adult looking." And also more versatile for different casual outfits. Also with the brown, I think the yellow stitching matches much better. ...Like a construction boot. I personally like them as a no fuss, ready for action type of boot. It's just convenient that they're pretty much enjoyable right out of the box. At least that's been my experience with them (twice). Plus I have a bit of a wide foot and a high foot slope, so it's a bit difficult for me to find a boot that agrees with my foot. However, I am curious about those Thursday Captain boots (in wide) and the Blundstone Dress Series Chelsea Boots. A review on those would be cool (and helpful). Anyways, those were just my thoughts. Keep up the good work!
About the sizing, in the uk we dont usually have half sizes or wide fit
i had a pair of old english 14 eyes that lasted me 10+ years, bought a new pair and it lasted 6 months before the sole fell off, gripfast boots are infinitely better
Yeah I hear this a lot.
can you please please please do a review on the Corcoran WWII Jump boot? Please?
I've got a pair of knee-high Docs that I got in 1995. Granted I haven't worn them every day since then, but they still look amazing despite me being pretty hard on them when I do. I wish I had a pair of the old housewifey ones though, as I think they have probably lost that feature since the old days. I love them, though.
I'm over 50 and still have the first pair of docs I bought in 1980. I have also had about a dozen other DMs since then with varying degrees of satisfaction - they definitely played with sizing over time. For sure the newer production is not the same and I can't get a fit in any style any more. The last pair I had did not last very long either Luckily I have been able to move to John Fluevogs - he worked with DM and always has some street/stompy boots that I can wear. I have been in boots that style since I was a teen, and for people who do a lot of walking in the city, they are a great alternative to sneakers without being overly formal, and now they have styles that are more office appropriate or for people who have to stand all day.
There's really not much you can say about the styling of DMs - if you don't like them, you don't like them.
But yeah, quality is not the same and that is an OK reason to not like them I suppose.
Yeah that's what I've been hearing about the quality decline over the years! Definitely I love this sole though, like you say they're a good sneaker alternative that's not too formal. Thanks for your comment!
Feminine? The reviewer doth protest too much lol
i saw so many girls wear this all over italy and Ireland this year.. they are more popular in Europe than in Canada.
My DM s are 20+ yr old. Originals made in England. I am a 49 yr women and head of a 100+ office dept. I still wear THE SAME PAIR of dm to work EVERY DAY. Never had to resole them. Best shoes I own. Fits every outfit and every age, female and male.
I love my doc martens i got the 20 eyelit boots, ive worn for years and went to alot of moshpits
It’s funny how you mention that they didn’t have much of a break in period. That was me with my Birkenstocks. Everyone swore up and down they would have such an uncomfortable and long break in period and mine out of the box felt amazing and required zero break in. 🤷🏻♀️ Hopefully that means when I finally get a pair of Docs it might be the same.
This is the most hostile comment section I’ve seen in any of the channel’s reviews
Wearing a pair of 1461's with a suit looks very good, just saying
You are out of control
why? cause I like a pair of shoes? it’s not like I wear a suit with the 1460’s.. you probably wear a suit with Jordans
I wear suits with flip flops
I feel like the fact he got the wrong size really ruined his experience. The heel slipping, easy break in, not “hugging” his foot, etc.
I agree with you. I own a pair of older DM's. I actually bought another one- the Pascal model but my real issue with these boots is the fact that they don't have a shank which make them very unstable and really don't give enough arch support and ends up being painful after a while.
You can tell he doesn’t like em so he just slamming them lol, “they look greasy” lol
I didn't have 1460s but I had a extra wide pair of doc martens that lasted me 6 years and this dude down know at all what he's talking about with quality
Tbh, I own a pair of Docs and I wear them almost every day. I've been wearing them every day to work where I walk/run 5-10 miles for the past year and a half, I wear them on most of my days off, and they have held up really nicely. They look a little worn down (in fairness though, i don't do anything to take care of them at all. If I cleaned them they'd probably look nice again), but they are still extremely comfortable and thick enough to protect my poor little ankles from my clumsiness. The only drawback is that it isn't from their work boot line, so they have no grip at all.
I do recommend them to everyone who asks for a work shoe recommendation. They are, in my experience, durable and comfy enough for most jobs, and they aren't horrendously ugly so you can wear them outside of work, too.
All that being said, I'm really bummed out at the comments about other peoples docs not holding up as well as mine. Makes me reeeaaallly reconsider buying another pair :^(
“Inorganic rubber”. Lol. That’s a fancy way of saying PVC or Vinyl. I’m 38 and used to love DM. I’ve tried 2 pair since they moved their operations to China and both have been trash compared to the English made one.
Now I own a shoe repair shop and have seen my share of these come through the door, they really can be resoled but there’s no point as it changes the look and feel and costs about the same as new ones. The best things to do is a thing half some and heel, kind of like a retread really. It’s cheaper and retains the look and feel of the DM sole.
I wear mostly Alden boots now every day, if I ever come across a nice vintage pair of DMs I’ll pick them up but I’m not giving the Chinese ones a 3rd try.
Bmac 814 try the “vintage” ones. They are made in England and have a great warranty.
So great to hear the opinion of someone who owns a shoe repair store! Yeah I've heard some cobblers glue a sole to the bottom of worn out Docs but yeah, interesting that there's such a thing as a hard to resole Goodyear welt.
@@Stridewise The hard to repair goodyear welt has to do with their Airwear sole I think
Stephen Hauer There’s a few reasons they are hard to resole. It mostly boils down to how they’ll look and feel when they are done and what’s available for us to use. With the soles available I’d either have to make them heavier and firmer with a solid rubber sole or use something like the vibrant Gumlite soles that are no where near as durable. Both options will make them look different since they won’t have that translucent look to them and they won’t have that ridged finish on the edge.
It’s also much more difficult to glue anything onto the vinyl welt. The original ones have vinyl soles too and are melted together. There are ways of doing it, especially with modern cements but The majority of cements a lot of the old timer guys use for leather and rubber just don’t work on PVC.
It really just boils down to it being very close to the cost of new boots for them to be grossly different than they were as new in both look and feel where as something like a redwing is usually less than 1/2 the cost of new to resole, sometimes much less on the more expensive brands and they get restored back to exactly how they were when new. So it’s not really that they are hard in general, it’s just hard to make it worth it unless the person wants something different, like a colored sole or something.
@@mcearl8073 Ahh okay, that makes a lot of sense. Oh well, I did toy with the idea of picking up some Dr. Martens a few months back, but went with some Danners instead. So far, I am happy.
Despite a lot of the comments so far I enjoyed your review and agreed with a lot of it.
The issue is, from the research I have done is there is a considerable difference in quality from the more expensive British made ones to the ones made in China.
Yeah thanks a ton, Harry! I think I'll have to do a British vs Asian comparison in the future, seems to be a lot of demand for one.
I just buy a pair of Dr. Martens and my left shoe is so comfortable while the other shoes on my right foot is to tight on my wrist it's hurting me and is very uncomfortable. Why is the difference so big from the same pair, is this fabrication failure or do my right foot have a higher wrist? I'm right handed. My right hand is bigger then my left.
I've wore Docs since the late 70,s.There were a massive part of sub culture from Punk to the Skinhead/Ska revival to your general boot boy and then through to my days as a doorman.Still have a pair at 52 cherry originals in tribute.I even printed and die cut the boxes for griggs lol.
When I see reviews about modern DMs, it seems like about the only virtues they ascribe to them are that they're "iconic" and "inexpensive." It's difficult to church up describers like "thin leather," "no shank," "unstable," "sort of odd Goodyear weld" and "spongy soles that wear out quickly."
I appreciated the frankness of this particular review, especially saying that DMs really are made for young people - not people who want something that's high quality, versatile and looks good outside a mosh pit.
yes dude u look lesss manly in them that is correct :) but for the rest of us hm i think we look like our gender when we wear them. it is clearly a problem related to you
Review suggestions:
-Allen Edmonds Dalton
-Allen Edmonds Liverpool
-Ralph Lauren Ranger "cookie" boot (vintage would be more ideal if you can find some)
-Russell Double Moccasin Bottom Birdshooter boots
-Red Wing Beckmans
-Red Wing Muleskinners
-Crockett & Jones Brecon Chukka
Wow thanks for these! I've got some Allen Edmonds Sullivan Streets coming in the mail and I think I'll do Beckmans too. I also need to do more chukka reviews. Thanks again!
I'm so poor, I thought this guy was a dick for saying $140 isn't expensive, but now I realize I'm not his target audience.
You do not understand doc martens. I'm 33 and am feminine for wearing them? And considering I own over 20pairs of docs and you have never had your hands on the MIE 1460.....you are very unclear how much different they really are. A 1460 MIE is a thick stiff leather that requires lots of break in. You also need to consider that they made lots of versions of the MIE 1460 over the years. The England factory cobblers also make Solovairs, btw. The MIE stuff is a completely different boot. If you buy a doc you know what you are buying, you understand the present overseas nature of the less expensive versions. It's not designed to be a boot to be the compared to the others you described. I just do not think you get it. I love the exact boot you are reviewing. It's a very easy boot to grab, throw on and you'd be surprised how much you can actually pair it with clothing wise.
Jonas Svensson I mean I’m reviewing the 1460 not the MIE stuff. Might try solovair boots in the future and compare
In my mind these have their own category they belong in. They’re more like a sneaker version of a boot than what I think of when I think of a boot. Looking at the 1460 for example, which is what most people think of when they think of Docs, I see them as a jeans and T-shirt boot. I’m not sure what else someone would do with them, but I’m a simple man and not a fashion guy as it were. I have the “greasy” 1460 myself which are very comfortable. Though I’ve never seen them as feminine, I definitely would not call them mature looking by any stretch. Were it not for a strong nostalgic attachment I wouldn’t have any. Again, they belong in their own place and deservedly so. But, I wouldn’t put them on all fours with boots like Alden’s or Red Wings or the like.
Yeah this is a good comment, they're a different category to most boots and there are few boots you can wear with a t-shirt, which I point out.
I have had my Greasy Black Dr.Martens for almost a year and a half now and still great.
I am really confused with everyone saying the Dr.Marten soles are long lasting. Just over a year ago I purchased a pair of Lombardo Grizzley's and have worn them smooth already. I reached out to the company, and was told that "normal wear and tear is not covered." A year of sole wear when I work in a cubicle environment was very disappointing to me.
Has anyone else had results like this?
No, of course not