My dad purchased a 2019 SG CVO with 1k miles on it from Barracuda but passed away unexpectedly, so now I'm having the bike shipped up to me to have the 128 SS w/ 550cam put in along w/ some other very unessecary upgrades. Can't wait.
Man it didn't take long for the Harley haters to come out the wood works wish people would just enjoy what ever bike they choose if you don't like "insert brand here" don't watch those videos if your that butt hurt over someone else spending their own money on something they want
You are so right. I have owned many brand of bikes and always harley is the whipping child in the comments section. And sometimes its not even the subject of the video and it comes up anyway.
@harley crasher Are you talking about the videos of dudes on bikes getting pissed and crushing mirrors? I can honestly say i’ve done it before, but i wasn’t riding stupid or even splitting lanes, just someone cutting me off lol. The newer cars are very dissatisfying though since most mirrors fold both ways now LMAO
@@threeballmonte2003 I believe in biker justice. Just the mirror smashing that seems very questionable. Some are justice served and some.......not so much.
G'day from Australia, nice video and that's a nice torque curve good work I bet the thing pulls hard👍 and to all the people on here knocking the M8 if you don't like it don't buy one it's easy, I bet most of you haven't even ridden one you just look on the forums all day and memorize every little problem they have so you can recite it and sound like an expert to your mates to strangers at the coffee shop haha. Maybe if you Road more and spend less time on the forums you wouldn't be such a whiny old bastards, every new platform has teething problems that's why you have warranty to fix these problems and they get fixed. Yes I do have Harleys I have an Wide Glide shovel, a knucklehead, a 2003 Softail Springer, 2008 Night Train, V rod Destroyer , 2013 Dyna custom, and 2019 Road Glide they're all on the road and they all get ridden and the M8 by far has the most power and Pull out of the lot ( except for the Destroyer) and way more comfy to ride that anything else so before you all knock em how about you just go and ride one🤙
@@djn082 nice, i wish i had bought one at some point.. im making my 2007 VRSCAW into a drag bike now though. Doing a 1/4" stroker. For 1357cc. Cant wait to get it done. Are you a member of 1130cc.com The V-rod forum?
@@poncoolride yeah man there good fun, theres a fue dudes down south that are running night rods, with the stroker kit and a few other tweeks and there makeing between 260 and 300 hp N/A and running 8.00s and hi 7s on the 1/4mile, there angry vrods thats for sure. No mate sorry not on 1130cc.com
Agree....I sold my 2017 Low Rider S for a 2019 Sport Glide and it’s heaps better in many ways...have not missed the FXDLS at all. And I didn’t intend buying a new M8 bike but the dealer gave me one for a whole weekend and after 350kms it sunk in just how much better the new bikes are. It’s a generational leap....
Thoes are some hard working hands!! One of my uncles became a citizen after almost 30 years but his labor job of gardening took a toll on his hands and finger prints. He couldn’t get his citizenship bc he didn’t have finger prints. Took him a few weeks.
Dyno tuning is amazing. The numbers are neat to see and are a nice thing for people to bench race against each other. But the real bragging rights is when it comes down to a street light grand prix with a fellow motorcyclist. That's how you put your money where your mouth is
Well, I think they are very respectable numbers. I am sure more could probably be squeezed out of it but at least the way you have done it means it'll be reliable. I know the numbers are just that - some make more, some make less and different pulls on the same bike with the same tune can give different numbers on the same Dyno - been there and done that. I think that what is refreshing is that this video was done and shown publicly - your honesty is so refreshing ! Remember though that it is not out there on the road, and often less powerful bikes are faster if they have better tyres, suspension or a better rider......
Beast? It's what should be stock hp on a 800lb cement mixer not a 10k option and I'm sure its reliable lol and I'm sure Harley will cover the warranty hahahahaha
I watched a video on one of the "king of the baggers" bikes and you have the same exact horse power but they have 143 torque. I guess one big difference is, the K.O.B bike weighs 300 lb less. Awesome job with the bike. I enjoy watching your videos.
I have a 2017 ultra limited with a 128 kit, on the fly tuner2 into 1 into 2 head pipe and screaming eagle mufflers all done at a dealer and dynoed at the same dealer in Oregon late last year. I spent after the discounts 7000.00 and have 109T and 108 hp so 120 is not too bad ...... I am not happy with what I have but after my extended warranty is up I will do something with it.
Numbers are just that. Numbers.... all these people comparing their numbers to this is amazing. Some people just dont get it. Dynos are a tool for tuning.
@@demogorilla I think you misunderstood. Each dyno numbers are different and harleys can make numbers there is more then one person making big numbers naturally aspirated. Seen one bike make 79hp stock and with their magic (wont disclose what was done) made 240 on the same dyno. Yes its stroked, yes the cubic inches were bumped. That's 160hp increase using stock cases and harley design. It can be done, just takes someone that knows what they are doing. I told myself if never own one. I was an avid Japanese bike guy. Now I own one and havent looked back.
@@TheShifty450 If cruisers and tourers are what you're into, you can't do much better than Harley imho. I love that they're sticking to their classic styling, while providing technical improvements with each year. Not many people now bring up "ancient tech" since they got the IMU, cornering traction control and ABS, tire pressure monitoring, and Apple Carplay. Harley's are every bit as advanced as any other bike, they just like doing some things the old way. It's not like there's never been a liquid cooled Harley either. The Street's are still liquid cooled. The V-Rod was liquid cooled. And the upcoming adventure bike is liquid cooled.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 its amazing what a little bit of money in the suspension department does to these fl bikes. I have had numerous sport bike riders ride mine and they all say the same thing about how they had no idea that they could ride like that. I agree harley is getting better with chassis and suspension geometry.
I'm not bashing anything, However, the initial pull in this video took considerably longer to hit the rev limited than the second and third pull. Were you doing something different or were you in sixth gear on the initial pull and then did the second and third in 5th?
Just bought a 128 kit. And i ride a street bob, which is 100-150lbs lighter than most other harleys. Cant wait till fuckin spring. Bout to chew me up some crotch rockets
Not bad for a Harley kit that I’m guessing retains warranty? A competent Indy can for sure push near 160 hp/tq with high compression and good porting/ cams and throttle body.
My name which was Paul King ( until I changed it yesterday" was on the 0.44-second mark of the video. I wasn't claiming to be an expert. I was just saying " Holy .....Fuck" as I was impressed and liked the motor. But I did love seeing my name in the video.LOL!! I have a Stage 3 107 M8 and been interested in buying a crate M8. Anyways sorry if you misunderstood me and thought my Holy ....Fuck...meant I was an expert.;-)
It no longer matters. The HD motor company can not just lower prices. We now have access to Harley corporate balance sheets. This motor company in the red by almost 500 million. They are forced to sell bikes with substandard parts, just to generate the "shop-income" in some veil attempt to service some of these loans. This company in such a death spiral, is now only a matter of time before the banks start calling them in on some of these loans.........
Good #'s but if I'm reading your Dynojet sheet correctly, those are "numbers at the engine". I love Harley's I'm on my eighth, most of us are interested in REAR WHEEL H.P. & TQ. #'s. My calculations may be off but your HP at the real wheel is more like 115--117 and TQ at the rear wheel is more like 118--120. Still good numbers.
Well, it's a convert from any 114, and the 107 has the 124 kit which only loses like, 3 to 4 hp. So yeah, you CAN buy a 9 grand softail standard and slap 145 hp in it.
Will these parts and upgrades work on the 2017 Street Glide CVO 114"? Do I need to the Harley upgraded Valve Springs, 64mm Throttle Body, High Flow Injectors, etc...Seems they want 2700 plus more$ for other needed parts only to increase this to 117"....
And you only gain a couple ci it cost a lot to change the rods and flywheel but doing the top is the way to go .I like my 128 put about 25.000 miles on it sofar
The problem is dynos are not all tuned and calibrated the same... what your shop gets it wont get in another shop... in other words most places lie about the numbers... and have the dyno calibrated so it makes more hp and tq... so who cares what numbers are... if your happy with how it performs than that's all that matters
You should do a video where you fire Dempsey--- out of a fucking cannon. And then he lands in the back of a late 90s Nissan Sentra and lives happily ever after.
I may have missed the episode, but did y’all post episode with the parts list, I’m considering going with a zippers 124 sleeper for my RG but also if I should with SE or aftermarket
I you're considering aftermarket parts, go with aftermarket parts. They perform better, are more reliable (as in: better capable to handle high loads), and often cost less than SE. Only trade-off is that, if something does go wrong, H-D's factory warranty may be voided, but if you've got a respectable dealer, they'll guarantee their workmanship on aftermarket parts as much as they do on SE parts.
I've seen a 2017 Road Glide with a 128 build pull 158tq on the dyno. Haven't had a chance to ride it yet because the roads here are covered in road salt.
Lmfao and where is Victory now? Yeah that’s what I thought... already forgotten in the ash heap of history... nothing but a blip that nobody gives 2 fucks about 😭
Hrishikesh Patil Ward Performance parts, Knight Prowler Cam and springs, Mahle Pistons, thunder headers 2 into1, machined stock head and throttle body, tuned, can’t post picture of dyno sheet on here. No option. Built by Master Builder our of Lima, HD. Bobby Woods and Ward Performance, everything else was Screaming Eagle. GMR performance in TX is awesome too.
And to be clear, that bike in the video is awesome, but if you’re gonna do that kinda build.....and spend that coin, piece together your parts because you can get more power and cheaper just machining stock parts.
I'm sure this bike doesn't pass motor oil into the primary or suck it from the transmission? Hopefully the valve seats are nice and tight in the heads and dont come loose rendering low compression. Or have oil pump issues due to sumping and causing the motor to blow?
@Toby Schachtner the motors are garbage, go out and buy yourself any Evo powered HD built between 1984-1998, it'll outlast anything out there. Ive been doing this for long time now. I've put over 100k on every Evo powered HD I've owned. No computer, no tensioners or fly by wire throttle or rediculous sensors. Simplicity at its finest. If you needed any more advice I'll gladly share. Where I live in the northeast there are hundreds of low mileage bikes from that Era.
@@demogorilla sadly your right. I got boned by the Motor Company back before they launched the M8 motor. My early twin cam had tensioner issues and lunched the motor at 20k miles. Oh by the way NOT COVERED BY ANY WARRANTY! They knew they made garbage yet continued to produce garbage. Sound similar? It should, the M8 motor is no different! Im trying my best to spread the word to EVERYONE OUT THERE! I wish I could go live on TV and make sure the rest of my fellow Americans were as informed as much as possible. Bottom line, THEY SUCK! I'm one of the most patriotic people you'd ever meet yet NOW i ride BMW. Google Milwaukee 8 blown motor if you don't believe me.
Some will talk shit because they can't get those numbers or they just haters who just bitch about everything if they weren't the one's to come up with it first.
@@johnpodo Actually, at the time that you wrote this, you were most likely right. However, HD has now released kits that can take a 107 to 128 and the 114/117 to 131. I'm in the process of getting my '19 RG bumped to 128.
@@BertsMotorCompany Any idea what's causing these motors to self destruct and blow up? It seems like the Worldwide web is FULL of people who have suffered from these M8's blowing up. Damn shame that they (MOCO) know of an existing problem yet they STILL keep sending them out the door. Seems to be their "M.O" as they did the exact same thing with the Twin Cam's! Remember the orange spring loaded tensioners that were coming apart and going into the oil pumps and blowing up the motors with only 20k-30k miles on them? Oh and NOT covered under warranty. I think its only a matter of time before their doors are closed. "RIP HD 1903-1998"
After just watching the first video and now this one I've come to this conclusion. There's plenty of fucking experts out there, sitting behind a keyboard. The dyno pulls wont shut them up. You cant teach them anything because they know every fuckin thing already.
@@r.c.reasor4807 83 ft-lb rear wheel torque at 6k rpm isn't mega torque. A 900+ lb full dresser needs that kind of torque at 2k-3k rpm. The H-D Milwaukee 8 makes over 100 ft-lb down low. Only makes 82 hp at the rear wheel stock. My Utra Limited makes 128hp/120tq at the rear wheel with a Stage4 kit. That's around 160hp/150tq at the crank assuming 80% driveline efficiency. The Vmax ratings are at the crank. They are impressive for a stock motor, no doubt! Torque monster?...compared to sports bikes, yes. But not any better than a stock Harley in the cruising range where it counts for a big heavy bagger.
@@billdaggett7911 197 horsepower and 122 torque completely stock. You can get the ECU remapped and alot of other little tricks and sky is the limit. Totally reliable too. I had one and to me it's a great engine put in the wrong type chassis, frame whatever. A aerodynamic sport touring type set up would be a perfect combo for me anyway. Oh and on top of all that they sound fantastic even with stock pipe. But that's just me. Your opinion may vary.
Sorry, as a Harley Engine Builder, I have found the 120R to have more than a fair share of problems and failures. A S&S or JIMS would be a 100 percent better choice for a crate engine. Good luck, SARGE.
@Toby Schachtner I get what you're saying but that bike started as a 2019 special... so it was $27k from the get go.... then add 23" front wheel kit, 16" bars, CVO side fairings, 2 into 1 performance exhaust and the 128 motor kit... there's no way in hell that bike plus the service is under $35k... that almost 10k over the stock bmw price
Comparing a Harley to a BMW is like comparing your gf to a supermodel. Your gf will be a fun ride for a long time but that supermodel will cost you dearly and leave you in a ditch! ;-)
Trebleda Uaedirb so what. The Harley does it with style. And no one every said, I sure wish my bike could sound like a bmw. That almost sounded like something a goldwinger would say😂😂😂
A 117 victory puts down these same numbers... from ten years ago. A stratoliner from 20 years ago WITHOUT a expensive ass big bore kit gets 126 torque lol. Gotta love the harley fan bois and that money to burn.
You spent $30.000 on a Harley most likely financed it then spend another $10.000 on performance upgrades just to make go down the road .... still a air cooled pushrod motor!!
For people looking for numbers?zx14r 210 hp I own one and for harley lowers never understood why spend 30k spend another $$$ for extra ponies??? I own tree Harley’s before and I enjoy riding looking for speed and hp don’t by harleys not design for
Guys like you don't get it. If you like sitting atop a bike like a monkey humping a football, good for you. If you like sitting on your nuts, good for you. If you can't apreciate the timeless American look, feel & sound, your loss. Riding isn't just about full speed. But everyone likes more power.
So much money....so little hp ... so glad Harley treated us like shit shut down factories went overseas and sold us outdated technology. So I went to bmw stock 160 hp 120tq with o headaches.
Right! Except it will dyno at 145hp. The only headaches will come on the road when it breaks a wheel and you can't fucking find one. Ask me how I know this.
@@Cwra1smith and your point being? 160hp at flywheel stock is still better than this... simple math . And for the wheel how about I broke my timing chain on my Harley and lost the motor with 15k on it .
@@demogorilla That's a freak event. I don't know anyone else that has happened to. Harley had to go overseas to produce smaller bikes for Asia and Europe and this was planned a while back. The tariff crap has made that even more necessary. I was a Sport Touring guy for 20 years and modified and farkled the shit out of my Kawasaki. You can't do that with BMW but I can take my own M-8 apart and screw with it. I beat my dealer up and got exactly what I wanted for the price I wanted. Up in Canada last summer all I heard was, "Holy shit, look at that!" ;-)
I love that sled/ anything negative is only Jealousy
I have the 128 on my '17 Limited with a Woods cam. 131 HP and 147 Torque. She's a fun bike to ride.
That's what I'm hoping to get on my '20 Road King with the 128ci and Woods 22X-E cam. We'll see how that one turns out :).
So refreshing to see a “dealership channel” doing work on YT. Always a great video with good content. Also, can I ride it...
I wanna buy it lol
Haha anytime you want man!
So what's the price tag on that bad boy?
@@dieselmechanic9824 60s
@@superduty131 that's steep I'm sure it's all there but damn. Lol
My dad purchased a 2019 SG CVO with 1k miles on it from Barracuda but passed away unexpectedly, so now I'm having the bike shipped up to me to have the 128 SS w/ 550cam put in along w/ some other very unessecary upgrades. Can't wait.
Man it didn't take long for the Harley haters to come out the wood works wish people would just enjoy what ever bike they choose if you don't like "insert brand here" don't watch those videos if your that butt hurt over someone else spending their own money on something they want
You are so right. I have owned many brand of bikes and always harley is the whipping child in the comments section. And sometimes its not even the subject of the video and it comes up anyway.
100% agree!! Not a fan of harley, but i love watching Harley videos. Not to many touring videos on other bikes except adventure bikes.
@@threeballmonte2003 Of all motorcycle videos i watch and read the comments sections, I find myself at odds over the lane splitting mirror vandals.
@harley crasher
Are you talking about the videos of dudes on bikes getting pissed and crushing mirrors? I can honestly say i’ve done it before, but i wasn’t riding stupid or even splitting lanes, just someone cutting me off lol. The newer cars are very dissatisfying though since most mirrors fold both ways now LMAO
@@threeballmonte2003 I believe in biker justice. Just the mirror smashing that seems very questionable. Some are justice served and some.......not so much.
I love how in the opening scene the bad ass running the dyno has no ear protection wide open 😂
I believe you. My 128 got 138HP and 140 TQ on the Dyno fresh after the rebuild.
G'day from Australia, nice video and that's a nice torque curve good work I bet the thing pulls hard👍 and to all the people on here knocking the M8 if you don't like it don't buy one it's easy, I bet most of you haven't even ridden one you just look on the forums all day and memorize every little problem they have so you can recite it and sound like an expert to your mates to strangers at the coffee shop haha. Maybe if you Road more and spend less time on the forums you wouldn't be such a whiny old bastards, every new platform has teething problems that's why you have warranty to fix these problems and they get fixed. Yes I do have Harleys I have an Wide Glide shovel, a knucklehead, a 2003 Softail Springer, 2008 Night Train, V rod Destroyer , 2013 Dyna custom, and 2019 Road Glide they're all on the road and they all get ridden and the M8 by far has the most power and Pull out of the lot ( except for the Destroyer) and way more comfy to ride that anything else so before you all knock em how about you just go and ride one🤙
You still race that destroyer?
@@djn082 nice, i wish i had bought one at some point.. im making my 2007 VRSCAW into a drag bike now though. Doing a 1/4" stroker. For 1357cc. Cant wait to get it done. Are you a member of 1130cc.com The V-rod forum?
@@poncoolride yeah man there good fun, theres a fue dudes down south that are running night rods, with the stroker kit and a few other tweeks and there makeing between 260 and 300 hp N/A and running 8.00s and hi 7s on the 1/4mile, there angry vrods thats for sure.
No mate sorry not on 1130cc.com
My vrod nightrod was a turd.
Really like my 117ci 18 breakout though.
Don't miss that pos vro d at all.
Agree....I sold my 2017 Low Rider S for a 2019 Sport Glide and it’s heaps better in many ways...have not missed the FXDLS at all. And I didn’t intend buying a new M8 bike but the dealer gave me one for a whole weekend and after 350kms it sunk in just how much better the new bikes are. It’s a generational leap....
Thoes are some hard working hands!! One of my uncles became a citizen after almost 30 years but his labor job of gardening took a toll on his hands and finger prints. He couldn’t get his citizenship bc he didn’t have finger prints. Took him a few weeks.
Been waiting on this one!
Me too! I was hoping They would make this video. Is this the bike you rode there? It had to be nuts!
Dyno tuning is amazing. The numbers are neat to see and are a nice thing for people to bench race against each other. But the real bragging rights is when it comes down to a street light grand prix with a fellow motorcyclist. That's how you put your money where your mouth is
Well, I think they are very respectable numbers. I am sure more could probably be squeezed out of it but at least the way you have done it means it'll be reliable. I know the numbers are just that - some make more, some make less and different pulls on the same bike with the same tune can give different numbers on the same Dyno - been there and done that. I think that what is refreshing is that this video was done and shown publicly - your honesty is so refreshing ! Remember though that it is not out there on the road, and often less powerful bikes are faster if they have better tyres, suspension or a better rider......
The bikes makes what it makes. That's a very respectable number. Great looking bikes thanks guys.
LOVE IT. Great job guys. Damn thing is a BEAST
Beast? It's what should be stock hp on a 800lb cement mixer not a 10k option and I'm sure its reliable lol and I'm sure Harley will cover the warranty hahahahaha
demogorilla oh shut the fuck up dingleberry. Go ride your plastic bike and keep going to HARLEY vids to hate, because that makes sense.
I watched a video on one of the "king of the baggers" bikes and you have the same exact horse power but they have 143 torque. I guess one big difference is, the K.O.B bike weighs 300 lb less. Awesome job with the bike. I enjoy watching your videos.
I have a 2017 ultra limited with a 128 kit, on the fly tuner2 into 1 into 2 head pipe and screaming eagle mufflers all done at a dealer and dynoed at the same dealer in Oregon late last year. I spent after the discounts 7000.00 and have 109T and 108 hp so 120 is not too bad ...... I am not happy with what I have but after my extended warranty is up I will do something with it.
No one ever lists the cost to build one. What is the complete cost from stock to make that power?
Numbers are just that. Numbers.... all these people comparing their numbers to this is amazing. Some people just dont get it. Dynos are a tool for tuning.
Numbers are everything and Harley can't add.
@@demogorilla I think you misunderstood. Each dyno numbers are different and harleys can make numbers there is more then one person making big numbers naturally aspirated. Seen one bike make 79hp stock and with their magic (wont disclose what was done) made 240 on the same dyno. Yes its stroked, yes the cubic inches were bumped. That's 160hp increase using stock cases and harley design. It can be done, just takes someone that knows what they are doing. I told myself if never own one. I was an avid Japanese bike guy. Now I own one and havent looked back.
@@TheShifty450 If cruisers and tourers are what you're into, you can't do much better than Harley imho. I love that they're sticking to their classic styling, while providing technical improvements with each year. Not many people now bring up "ancient tech" since they got the IMU, cornering traction control and ABS, tire pressure monitoring, and Apple Carplay. Harley's are every bit as advanced as any other bike, they just like doing some things the old way. It's not like there's never been a liquid cooled Harley either. The Street's are still liquid cooled. The V-Rod was liquid cooled. And the upcoming adventure bike is liquid cooled.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 its amazing what a little bit of money in the suspension department does to these fl bikes. I have had numerous sport bike riders ride mine and they all say the same thing about how they had no idea that they could ride like that. I agree harley is getting better with chassis and suspension geometry.
Still a strong bike.
That bike is badass 👍🏻👍🏻
I'm not bashing anything, However, the initial pull in this video took considerably longer to hit the rev limited than the second and third pull. Were you doing something different or were you in sixth gear on the initial pull and then did the second and third in 5th?
Nice guys.
Wicked. Them some smooth outputs. Dig it. Cheers.
Those are more impressive numbers than the 131's I've seen
A little late to the game with this comment, but great video guys. I love how to the point you were haha
Good video thanks for sharing
Just bought a 128 kit. And i ride a street bob, which is 100-150lbs lighter than most other harleys. Cant wait till fuckin spring. Bout to chew me up some crotch rockets
Not bad for a Harley kit that I’m guessing retains warranty? A competent Indy can for sure push near 160 hp/tq with high compression and good porting/ cams and throttle body.
Nice build ! That rain sock didnt help anything though
A rain sock restricts airflow less than the filter itself. It has no impact on the dyno numbers.
What tuner are you using ? And which cams ?
My name which was Paul King ( until I changed it yesterday" was on the 0.44-second mark of the video. I wasn't claiming to be an expert. I was just saying " Holy .....Fuck" as I was impressed and liked the motor. But I did love seeing my name in the video.LOL!! I have a Stage 3 107 M8 and been interested in buying a crate M8. Anyways sorry if you misunderstood me and thought my Holy ....Fuck...meant I was an expert.;-)
Thx for your honesty.
I now know that I won't waste my hard earned $ on this set up.
"before we go to the dyno we had to put 1000 miles on it". Absolutely the wrong answer and a great way to permanently damage ring seal.
It no longer matters. The HD motor company can not just lower prices. We now have access to Harley corporate balance sheets. This motor company in the red by almost 500 million. They are forced to sell bikes with substandard parts, just to generate the "shop-income" in some veil attempt to service some of these loans. This company in such a death spiral, is now only a matter of time before the banks start calling them in on some of these loans.........
Nice numbers. With the additionalhorsepower without fully water cooled, how is it in traffic.
Good #'s but if I'm reading your Dynojet sheet correctly, those are "numbers at the engine". I love Harley's I'm on my eighth, most of us are interested in REAR WHEEL H.P. & TQ. #'s. My calculations may be off but your HP at the real wheel is more like 115--117 and TQ at the rear wheel is more like 118--120. Still good numbers.
my dyna with jims 120 motor makes at rear wheel 134HP and 138 ftlbs so much fun to ride,
Love the flat torque curve.
If it’s flat then it can’t be curved
Well done! 🙌
Woooow that's amazing I need this mod on mine
Great numbers for a lighter chassis but not optimal for an 800 lb. bagger. But hey, it's not my money.
Well, it's a convert from any 114, and the 107 has the 124 kit which only loses like, 3 to 4 hp. So yeah, you CAN buy a 9 grand softail standard and slap 145 hp in it.
I have the same bike 19 RGS billiard blue mine does not roar like that but I’m looking into this
Install a Bob Wood M8 night prowler cam and you will blow those numbers away...
I have a wood in my 97 FXSTC.
1st - 3rd wide open..hold TF on! Love the cam
My twin cam 107 makes that power .
Awesome video.....👍👍👍
my 2000 road king, converted to road glide, with a jims 131 motor tops 150hp and 160 lbs torque, only cost the guy before me 26k in upgrades. LOL
I'll take it!
Haters are just jealous! 😂🤣 Great numbers!
Will these parts and upgrades work on the 2017 Street Glide CVO 114"? Do I need to the Harley upgraded Valve Springs, 64mm Throttle Body, High Flow Injectors, etc...Seems they want 2700 plus more$ for other needed parts only to increase this to 117"....
And you only gain a couple ci it cost a lot to change the rods and flywheel but doing the top is the way to go .I like my 128 put about 25.000 miles on it sofar
Is this 128 all SE parts?
atmospheric pressure at sea level is around 14.7 psi not sure where 13:1 comes from
He misspoke a little I believe. He’s saying imo they keep the atmospherics in check for a consistent 13:1 for air/fuel vs stoichiometric air pressure
Now slap a trask turbo on that bad boy
Thts good shyt guys...get down Harley...!!!
Sick. 130 hp 130tq. Sick with me riding it I'd smoke anyone on anything anytime or anywhere
The problem is dynos are not all tuned and calibrated the same... what your shop gets it wont get in another shop... in other words most places lie about the numbers... and have the dyno calibrated so it makes more hp and tq... so who cares what numbers are... if your happy with how it performs than that's all that matters
You should do a video where you fire Dempsey--- out of a fucking cannon. And then he lands in the back of a late 90s Nissan Sentra and lives happily ever after.
I may have missed the episode, but did y’all post episode with the parts list, I’m considering going with a zippers 124 sleeper for my RG but also if I should with SE or aftermarket
I you're considering aftermarket parts, go with aftermarket parts. They perform better, are more reliable (as in: better capable to handle high loads), and often cost less than SE. Only trade-off is that, if something does go wrong, H-D's factory warranty may be voided, but if you've got a respectable dealer, they'll guarantee their workmanship on aftermarket parts as much as they do on SE parts.
Nice bike! Hey what bars are those? Thank you great video.
So what is the build spec, was never posted in other vid?
I love it 👍
Are these numbers corrected or uncorrected hp & tq? How much compression is it running?
I've seen a 2017 Road Glide with a 128 build pull 158tq on the dyno. Haven't had a chance to ride it yet because the roads here are covered in road salt.
You haven't had a chance because its already blown up lol
yeah its probably not as reliable as your wife's Yamaha..... so she says. @@demogorilla
Almost as good as a 10 year old victory 116 lol
That hunk of shit Victory is no where near 136 HP
@@YeeeewHawwwww hahah revolution 117 big bore 156hp 152tq, Victory all day baby.
Lmfao and where is Victory now? Yeah that’s what I thought... already forgotten in the ash heap of history... nothing but a blip that nobody gives 2 fucks about 😭
Sure, just take it to your local victory dealership to get some spark plugs and oil/filters.... oh wait.
@@jonnymac8925 Haha if you take you're shit to a dealer for spark plugs and a oil change I got a nice rock I can sell you.
Is Harley building bigger engines to cover up the Electric Scooters they built?
What front fender is on the bike ? Thanks
There is a 151ci kit out claim over 200hp 200tq
I'm glad mines a 124 and still out does that bike. 142ftlbs and 148hp. Better parts
Details plz...
Post them numbers and picture of the printout
Hrishikesh Patil Ward Performance parts, Knight Prowler Cam and springs, Mahle Pistons, thunder headers 2 into1, machined stock head and throttle body, tuned, can’t post picture of dyno sheet on here. No option. Built by Master Builder our of Lima, HD. Bobby Woods and Ward Performance, everything else was Screaming Eagle. GMR performance in TX is awesome too.
@@richardheusted What is the engine capacity if I may ask?
Hrishikesh Patil 124ci. Displaced over 2.0L.
And to be clear, that bike in the video is awesome, but if you’re gonna do that kinda build.....and spend that coin, piece together your parts because you can get more power and cheaper just machining stock parts.
I'd like to do a build like that on the new Low Rider S or Fat Bob, that would try to tear you off the back.
i'm in the middle of deckin my 18' fat bob out right now! s&s 128
Dam! Head work also?
Yea but is it dependable?
good video throw a turbo on it
Hey Guys, I'm in the market for 2020 Road Glide. Im looking do something like 128 cu in to it.
Numbers aren't stellar, but I bet that torque curve is fun to ride?!?
Where did you get the 128 badges at ?
I'm sure this bike doesn't pass motor oil into the primary or suck it from the transmission? Hopefully the valve seats are nice and tight in the heads and dont come loose rendering low compression. Or have oil pump issues due to sumping and causing the motor to blow?
@@mattw8834 HAAAA!!!!
What makes this motor any different.,? Still Harley still junk .
@Toby Schachtner the motors are garbage, go out and buy yourself any Evo powered HD built between 1984-1998, it'll outlast anything out there. Ive been doing this for long time now. I've put over 100k on every Evo powered HD I've owned. No computer, no tensioners or fly by wire throttle or rediculous sensors. Simplicity at its finest. If you needed any more advice I'll gladly share. Where I live in the northeast there are hundreds of low mileage bikes from that Era.
@@demogorilla sadly your right. I got boned by the Motor Company back before they launched the M8 motor. My early twin cam had tensioner issues and lunched the motor at 20k miles. Oh by the way NOT COVERED BY ANY WARRANTY! They knew they made garbage yet continued to produce garbage. Sound similar? It should, the M8 motor is no different!
Im trying my best to spread the word to EVERYONE OUT THERE! I wish I could go live on TV and make sure the rest of my fellow Americans were as informed as much as possible. Bottom line, THEY SUCK! I'm one of the most patriotic people you'd ever meet yet NOW i ride BMW. Google Milwaukee 8 blown motor if you don't believe me.
So you’ve heard about the M8’s problems huh!? 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Some will talk shit because they can't get those numbers or they just haters who just bitch about everything if they weren't the one's to come up with it first.
What cam is this engine using ?
How did you get the 128 displacement ? From a 114” start ?
same crankcase, but bigger jugs(cylinders&pistons) 107 and 114 does not have the identical crankcase. 107 can go up to 124 and 114 can go up to 128
@@johnpodo Actually, at the time that you wrote this, you were most likely right. However, HD has now released kits that can take a 107 to 128 and the 114/117 to 131. I'm in the process of getting my '19 RG bumped to 128.
John O'Donohue the cases are the same. The flywheel is the difference, and the 114/117 go to 131
I live just over in Tampa, Bert's Harley...is this bad boy for sale?
Yes sir, come see us!
@@BertsMotorCompany Better opt for the "forever warranty plan" as these things have been blowing up left and right. Dont believe me? Just Google it...
www.hdforums.com/forum/milwaukee-eight-m8/1172811-new-m8-blown.html
@@BertsMotorCompany Any idea what's causing these motors to self destruct and blow up? It seems like the Worldwide web is FULL of people who have suffered from these M8's blowing up. Damn shame that they (MOCO) know of an existing problem yet they STILL keep sending them out the door. Seems to be their "M.O" as they did the exact same thing with the Twin Cam's! Remember the orange spring loaded tensioners that were coming apart and going into the oil pumps and blowing up the motors with only 20k-30k miles on them? Oh and NOT covered under warranty. I think its only a matter of time before their doors are closed. "RIP HD 1903-1998"
@@BertsMotorCompany, which location is she at? Thank you!
After just watching the first video and now this one I've come to this conclusion. There's plenty of fucking experts out there, sitting behind a keyboard. The dyno pulls wont shut them up. You cant teach them anything because they know every fuckin thing already.
What color code is it?
Would like to see an engine swap. R1 1000cc engine into Road Glide.
Ignorance abounds.
Yamaha Vmax V-4! That would be lots of fun mega torque AND horsepower, and totally reliable!
@@r.c.reasor4807 83 ft-lb rear wheel torque at 6k rpm isn't mega torque. A 900+ lb full dresser needs that kind of torque at 2k-3k rpm. The H-D Milwaukee 8 makes over 100 ft-lb down low. Only makes 82 hp at the rear wheel stock. My Utra Limited makes 128hp/120tq at the rear wheel with a Stage4 kit. That's around 160hp/150tq at the crank assuming 80% driveline efficiency. The Vmax ratings are at the crank. They are impressive for a stock motor, no doubt! Torque monster?...compared to sports bikes, yes. But not any better than a stock Harley in the cruising range where it counts for a big heavy bagger.
@@billdaggett7911 I was referring to to 2009 and up Vmax. I should have been more clear thanks.
@@billdaggett7911 197 horsepower and 122 torque completely stock. You can get the ECU remapped and alot of other little tricks and sky is the limit. Totally reliable too. I had one and to me it's a great engine put in the wrong type chassis, frame whatever. A aerodynamic sport touring type set up would be a perfect combo for me anyway. Oh and on top of all that they sound fantastic even with stock pipe. But that's just me. Your opinion may vary.
What tuner ?????
if Feul Moto did it, it would be in the 150 RANGE
Yes but this is emissions compliant and keeps your warranty. If you have emissions testing this is a good kit.
Good video,, have guys done a 120 R?
Not since I started the channel, but we used to do a bunch a few years back. Definitely a solid build.
Sorry, as a Harley Engine Builder, I have found the 120R to have more than a fair share of problems and failures. A S&S or JIMS would be a 100 percent better choice for a crate engine. Good luck, SARGE.
What gear are the dyno pulls done in?
Russ H should be 4th
That thing should be in the 150’s...
Ported Heads?
What cams?
150 your fucking nuts, harleys just dont make those numbers not on a streetable engine, full race engine ya maybe
Blades, you need to get out more often, you don't know what you're talking about.
Harleys just don't make those numbers lol. People love to hate harley
Plenty of big inch M8's are north of 150 now. The M8 is good for 1.2 hp per CI at the rear wheel. 128 * 1.2 = 153.
Just installed the S&S 128" package on my 19'FLHXSE. Twist that throttle, and hold tf on, she pulls like a beast! Definitely put a smile on my face!
Even with this upsized motor, this HD still doesn't make enough horsepower to surpass a standard BMW GTL K1600 which costs thousands less...
@Toby Schachtner that bike is not $20k....its brand new starting closer to $30k before the engine upgrade and wheels
@Toby Schachtner I get what you're saying but that bike started as a 2019 special... so it was $27k from the get go.... then add 23" front wheel kit, 16" bars, CVO side fairings, 2 into 1 performance exhaust and the 128 motor kit... there's no way in hell that bike plus the service is under $35k... that almost 10k over the stock bmw price
Comparing a Harley to a BMW is like comparing your gf to a supermodel. Your gf will be a fun ride for a long time but that supermodel will cost you dearly and leave you in a ditch! ;-)
My buddy has a k1600. The 40k service and the fix for the dreaded squeaky suspension was more than the blue book value of the motorcycle.
Trebleda Uaedirb so what. The Harley does it with style. And no one every said, I sure wish my bike could sound like a bmw. That almost sounded like something a goldwinger would say😂😂😂
A 117 victory puts down these same numbers... from ten years ago. A stratoliner from 20 years ago WITHOUT a expensive ass big bore kit gets 126 torque lol. Gotta love the harley fan bois and that money to burn.
I need it
That is a shit load a of torque.Very nice.
If you could get 250 hp out of this bike with modifications and it would still ride without problems I’d get one.
Does everyone know that dyno numbers can easily be messed with. It’s all in the setup of the dyno software, want bigger just change a few settings.
You spent $30.000 on a Harley most likely financed it then spend another $10.000 on performance upgrades just to make go down the road .... still a air cooled pushrod motor!!
Sorry I wanted to watch the video but video played for me at 360p, that's makes it hard to watch.
Sorry about that, uploaded in 4k and according to r/youtube could take a few hours to be available in higher resolution.
For people looking for numbers?zx14r 210 hp I own one and for harley lowers never understood why spend 30k spend another $$$ for extra ponies??? I own tree Harley’s before and I enjoy riding looking for speed and hp don’t by harleys not design for
Guys like you don't get it. If you like sitting atop a bike like a monkey humping a football, good for you. If you like sitting on your nuts, good for you. If you can't apreciate the timeless American look, feel & sound, your loss. Riding isn't just about full speed. But everyone likes more power.
all my friends ride harley thay are fast bikes with big motors make big numbers
Lake me .. u now shit about me don’t pinch my nerves boy
just buy a Kawasaki concourse 14 165 hp BEAST of a cruiser for 13k
That's at the crank. The Kawi is more like 132 at the rear wheel.
So much money....so little hp ... so glad Harley treated us like shit shut down factories went overseas and sold us outdated technology. So I went to
bmw stock 160 hp 120tq with o headaches.
Right! Except it will dyno at 145hp. The only headaches will come on the road when it breaks a wheel and you can't fucking find one. Ask me how I know this.
@@Cwra1smith and your point being? 160hp at flywheel stock is still better than this... simple math . And for the wheel how about I broke my timing chain on my Harley and lost the motor with 15k on it .
@@demogorilla That's a freak event. I don't know anyone else that has happened to. Harley had to go overseas to produce smaller bikes for Asia and Europe and this was planned a while back. The tariff crap has made that even more necessary. I was a Sport Touring guy for 20 years and modified and farkled the shit out of my Kawasaki. You can't do that with BMW but I can take my own M-8 apart and screw with it. I beat my dealer up and got exactly what I wanted for the price I wanted. Up in Canada last summer all I heard was, "Holy shit, look at that!" ;-)
Get your facts straight. Clueless troll.
Harleys made for America are still made in America.
...buy a Kawasaki