British Car Guy VS 2007 Chevrolet Suburban: My First Taste of An American Icon
Vložit
- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- CarVertical: The History Checking Service
Use this link or code "JAYEMM" for a discount!
www.carvertical.com/gb/landin...
Today on the channel I drive the mighty Chevrolet Suburban! 5.6M and 5.3L of red white and blue freedom machine, just how does this fish out of water fare on British roads?
#Chevy #Suburban #america
Not had enough? Check out JAYEMM & FRIENDS! My new channel
/ jayemmandfriends
**********OUR CHANNEL PARTNERS**********
LILLIAN STANLEY FINANCE
lillianstanley.co.uk/jayemmon...
Call the special JayEmm Hotline on 08007720588
Dodo Juice - Award Winning Detailing Products
Get 10% off Dodo Juice's British Made Detailing Products with code: JAYEMM10
Shop at www.dodojuice.net
Car Profile Art - Automotive Artwork by a Genuine McLaren Formula One Engineer
/ car_profile_art
FIRE SAFETY STICK - GET A DISCOUNT WITH MY LINK
The World's Lightest and Most Compact Fire Extinguisher
firesafetystick.com/jayemm/
***********************************************************************************
Want to see your car on the channel? Email me on talk@jayemm.com
Equipment Used:
Panasonic S1H Camera
amzn.to/3WXREcV
Panasonic S5
amzn.to/3R9C2BJ
Sennheiser AVX-ME2 Audio Kit
amzn.to/3kMUVOJ
Insta360 Action Cameras - GET A FREE ACCESSORY
www.insta360.com/sal/one_rs?i... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
CarVertical: The History Checking Service
Use this link or code "JAYEMM" for a discount!
www.carvertical.com/gb/landing/v3?b=1e4c9523&a=JayEmm&voucher=jayemm&chan=jayemm
The Bronco is more a murderers car I think 😂
You want a great little fast car that barely anyone has? Get a Pontiac Solstice or Saturn Sky or, since you're over there across that pond, the Opel GT... and then swap that 6.2L LS V8 from that Suburban into it along with a Tremec T56, some coilovers, wheels and sticky tires, and you've got yourself a very unsuspecting monster very similar to an AC Cobra, just new 😅
Never even sat in one? The idea is so foreign most of us have sat in hundreds of them.
If my neighbor bought a Surban in black, white, sikver, or gray...I woukd think they were a Karen. In red, I would thi k they were a firefighter.
Most sold...at least here in my state are RWD....because here in the south east it almost never snows so you dont need more than RWD.
In America, it means, "I have kids and I don't care how much gasoline costs."
You have either an 8 passenger SUV or an 8 passenger Minivan.
😂
the same people speeding in the fast lane on the highway
It means "I have kids but I'm still to vein to buy a fucking minivan." Seriously, minivans (V6) use less gas and have better comfort and utility.
But you won’t be towing a camper to Yellowstone with a minivan.
There’s something poetic about how your friend has a Jag as his daily driver and a suburban for special occasions. In the US it woukd be the exact opposite
Except here, historically, they'd have 2 jags...one to drive while the other is in the shop!
@@narrowhwy114 and you can easily afford 2 jags, because if you wait 3 or 4 years after they are made, they will be 5-10% of the initial sales price on the used market. They are woefully unreliable cars, so 2 are definitely better than 1.
nobody cares about jags anymore in the US, at least in my area.
@zachmoyer1849 for sure. They have a terrible reputation in the US as stupid expensive and incredibly unreliable. They are still one of the most comfortable cars to drive though. A good 2007 xj vanden plas is probably one of the most pleasurable cars I've ever driven, when it was all working right.
@@jowens1126 yeah plus idk they just lost that appeal of uniqueness they had, nothing used to look like a jag. which is kind of all cars now as they have prioritized mpg and therefore aerodynamics which makes them all look the same. But you can get a pretty nice ride and arguably better performance from a Cadillac now without as you said the notably terrible reliability and the premium price tag.
As someone who grew up in a very rural area of Texas, our suburban was our work horse. We were 30 miles away from anything civilized. We were a family of 3 athletes playing multiple sports and other extracurricular activities. The suburban gave us enough seating and cargo space to haul multiple gear bags, food, and equipment to essentially drive to the nearest city and survive there for a whole day without having to go back home. We also made a yearly trip from east Texas to El Paso to visit family in it (12 hours of straight driving, not including stops). We replaced a transmission around 120k miles, and eventually traded it in around 250k miles. It was a true beast that held up to our crazy family life. That’s why they were so popular.
Most Brits probably don't realize when you say from East Texas to El Paso (12 hour drive) you are still in the same state. Pretty sure you can drive from one end of the UK to the other in 12 hours. lol
We did something similar in our “murderers edition” suburban. Drove from El Paso to visit family in Texarkana: 821 miles (still in Texas, for our UK viewers). Loved that beast. Now I own 2 “squarebody” suburbans; it’s an illness.
Replaced the trans at 120k miles. Typical GM garbage.
@@no_El_Collo and that's the short way across Texas, when you drive from Brownsville to Texline, you are more than half way to Canada.
@@hellypurcelly I've had several GM products and have never had to replace a trans. 2000 Chevy S-10, 2004 Pontiac GTO (traded at 130k), 2004 Cadillac SRX V8 (traded at 180k), 2006 Pontiac G6 (totaled at 160k), 2008 GMC Yukon Denali (traded after 200k), 2011 & 2014 Chevy Traverse (2014 traded at 160k), 2016 & 2018 Chevy Cruze (still own both, the 2016 has almost 140k), and just bought a 2019 Cadillac CT6 Blackwing. Sounds like you were an exception. The only vehicle I've had to put a trans in was a 1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS with the Dodge Neon drivetrain.
One thing that I haven't seen noted is that this is a 17-year-old vehicle that's being reviewed, so the fact it reviews well says a lot about it.
People made fun of the playskool plastics in this era GM... and it was a valid observation.
It's also a valid observation that minus "sunburn" on the top of the dash, all the plastics in my '03 GM product still look and work the same as the day they popped out of the mold 21 years ago. Thick chunky plastic may not feel or look great, but it will be fair to middling for decades... some vehicles with 'alcantara' and soft touch plastics can look like they've contracted leprosy after less than 10 years.
@@mfree80286, good points! This one, however, was post Bob Lutz when he declared all sorts of cladding had to go. Remember that this generation didn't have the cladding of prior generations.
@@ShawnD1027 I'm not talking about the cladding, I'm talking about the dashboard.
@@mfree80286, gotcha.
@mfree80286 My 03 has a single crack in the dash. That is the only flaw in the entire interior. I have more cracks and pops than I did 20 years ago, so I can't say too much, lol.
American here. We don't care if we see another Suburban. It doesn't say anything here. In black, it's always seen as either Uber spec or Secret Service spec. A black Tahoe is seen as Police spec, so people always cautiously slow down around you.
Yes they're that common
Oh so like the silver BMW 3 series here, that's the police spec.
As an American, you missed the point.. As per usual.
What you say the point should be than? @oWR3CKL3Zzo
Agreed. Nothing special there. I drove a new Tahoe a few years ago(rental car company didn’t have a compact) and I couldn’t believe how big it was!
I hated it and couldn’t imagine driving a bigger suburban. (I drive a mk7 GTI). Part of the issue was that it didn’t fit in my garage 😂
Suburbans are so ubiquitous here they're invisible. Nobody notices, much less marvels, at them.
I still Marvel at the Square body ones of the 70-early 90s. Those things are beautiful.
@@joshuakhaos4451 true
😆
Honestly, I think he should have driven the Escalade. It's the same vehicle, just with the luxury package. AS someone who lives on I-15, no matter ho fast you drive, some soccer mom in an escalade is going to tailgate you.
Those were made in my hometown, my family worked at the GM plant for three generations. They built around 3 million Tahoe / Yukon and Suburban / Yukon XL and Denali SUVs and over 16 million total vehicles from 1923-2009. I would love to own a Janesville made car one day.
2007 was one of the last great years for SUV's. No auto stop start. No cylinder deactivation. No GDI. Simple is better and lasts longer.
Anything newer I would have to DOD delete in the next month.
Whatever year they stopped being used for sport utility and started being used as daily drivers was the last great year for them. Saw a yellow Hummer H2 today with perfect tread on the rears and nearly bald tread on the fronts. I bet most SUV drivers could change it out for a 90's Corolla/Civic and all they'd lose is that big feeling they get from the big thing.
2007-2014 did have cylinder deactivation, only reason it could squeeze out that MPG. However, I do agree with simplicity 2015 was a huge shift to more tech and advanced costly features.
@@TrevorT7897Cylinder deactivation only really benefits the car manufacturer in testing. When I deactivated mine, I actually gained 1 mpg on average.
We are creeping up on 200,000 miles on my parents' 2009 Suburban. We still use it for thousand mile road trips, and it is still easy to drive, and inexpensive to run. It will carry more than you can imagine, and tow effortlessly.
GM knows (knew) how to build these well, and build them to last.
Glad someone mentioned odometer, 87K that suburban is still new! These run till 250-275K miles usually.
If you buy this, it basically says "I AM the carpool parent" and "Let's go to football practice!".
Underrated reason why this exists: road trips. You can stuff six actual humans AND a week's worth of all their stuff in this truck and go anywhere that has gas stations (and then some).
Minivan much better for road trips. Carries more, more stable, better handling, better gas mileage.
@@yungrichnbroke5199 There is absolutely no way in hell that a minivan carries even close to what a full sized suburban does. The suburban is either a half, three quarter ton, or one ton rated truck, same as the pickup trucks. The minivans are unibody, and aren't rated for much of anything, towing capacity wise, or any other way. I've owned both, daily driven both, and worked on both as a professional shop mechanic. The gas mileage the minivan takes on average, although the new full sized suv's aren't that far off anymore. Suburbans are known as the poor man's Cadillac for a reason. The ride is almost impossible to beat, from factory. Handling might go to the minivan, but that depends on the spec of the Suburban.
@@yungrichnbroke5199 you can't fit six 200 pound people AND six international suitcases weighing 50+ pounds each into a minivan. That's 1500 pounds of payload. The Suburban can carry a full ton of payload WHILE hauling a big ass trailer. A minivan can't do that in any way shape or form.
They make for a very good tow vehicle. Strong chassis long wheelbase for excellent straight line stability. And Engine choices that really get the job done.
Big facts
American here, when you see these in a driveway you know there is a mom at home who needs to get her 3 kids to hockey practice.
And tow a boat or camper on the weekends.
@@amazingjason455 not always. my mom had a Nissan Armada/ Patrol from 2008. she never towed with it, nor was it a 4x4. She only got it as it had more space than the Honda Pilot we had before, even though that had plenty of space
And all of them are 400 lbs +
Only three?
@@RexKarrsthree for hockey, yeah. Front seats and second row. The third row is down and that entire compartment is filled with gear. But nearly the entire starting lineup for soccer, or the starting lineup for a high school basketball (very tall).
American here. A Suburban says, “I have a big family and we like to travel.” Sports events, camping, vacations. I need room for a family of 4-6 and I need room for all our gear in the back. Unlike pickup trucks - often driven by single men - nobody in their right mind buys a suburban just to commute to work.
I still have my 2003 Suburban. I bought it new and it now has over 340,000 miles on the clock with absolutely zero engine or transmission issues. It sadly has a few rust holes in it as I live in the rust belt and the AC no longer works, but it’s been the best vehicle I’ve owned. For a large vehicle, it is fairly easy to park. My son is driving it now as his Honda Ridgeline was totaled as a result of being rear ended. It’s a great vehicle for family vacations. Cheers from the US!
"Escalade" is Spanish for "fool who buys a Suburban with a $30,000 grill".
Not really true anymore. The new Escalade is an exceptional car.
Sorry, though that was true of the 1999 model, since the 2002 redesign an Escalade has a definite look that the Chevy & GMC don't have. It's like saying a Town Car is just a Crown Victoria -- it's not.
@@norwegianblue2017 that and the modern Tahoe/Suburban is super underwhelming. Sat in a 2022 Tahoe in an Uber and was really disappointed. Ride quality was poor, interior uncomfortable, and plastic everywhere
@@JimGames11746 Interesting, as a die hard GMT800 owner/enthusiast, I rented a mid-spec 2023 Suburban for a few days and was super impressed with all of the above. Much to my surprise.
It’s French actually
You could park that somewhere in London and rent it out as a flat.
I wonder whether the rent and the parking fines would be able to cancel each other out?
New York City, as well. It would probably be more comfortable than your average NYC studio apartment.
Sadly, that's pretty common lifestyle required to work and live in many west coast American cities😢.
A flat what?
@@rogermiller2159Flat= apartment
This is how the list goes in America
Chevrolet Suburban: "I am middle middle-class, I have at least 4 kids, price of gasoline doesn't bother me because I live in an area where gas is $3 per gallon"
GMC Yukon XL: "I am higher middle-class, I have at least 4 kids, price of gasoline doesn't bother me because I live in an area where gas is $3 per gallon"
Cadillac Escalade ESV: "I am high-class, I have at least 4 kids, price of gasoline doesn't bother me because I have money" or "I am a Rapper"
If my neighbor came home with a new Suburban, then my reaction would be "cool, nice new car" and never think of it again, because Suburban's blend into the suburbia of what is America
If my neighbor came home with a new Yukon XL, then my reaction would be "they have quite a bit of money and are most likely living a stealth wealth lifestyle"
If my neighbor came home with a new Escalade ESV, then my reaction would be "they are drug dealers because who tf has that much money to spend on a new car when they live in the most generic and boring suburbia city there is in the US of A"
A lot of people in the state I live in participate in stealth wealth, you would never know that they were making over 6 digits a year unless you looked for minute things. Like a nice bass boat, with toys like an ATV, Sport UTV (Polaris RZR), and a decent chunk of land to play with these toys. They don't have a huge house, they have a normal house, they don't have a fancy car, they have a regular car that has all the options.
I own two... They are fantastic to tow with, take all my friends with me, and still carry whatever I need to in the back - all in comfort. Whatever generation you prefer, Suburbans are awesome and don't deserve the negative stigma! Howdy from Texas 🤠
Also something to consider, the more people you take with you, the better per person fuel milage you get! So, taking everyone in your Suburban is likely significantly more eco friendly than all of them driving alone in their more fuel efficient car.
I don’t have that many friends…
The suburban wasn’t the biggest. Ford used to sell something called the Excursion. You could get it with a 6 L turbo diesel or a 6.8 L V 10. It was the largest family SUV ever. It was 4 inches longer than the suburban, half a foot wider, and Half an inch taller. It was built on the Ford super duty F250 frame. Curb weight was 7688 pounds (3487 kg). Because you mentioned the power output on the suburban, for context, the 6.8 L gasoline V 10 produced 310 hp and 425 pound feet of torque. The diesel V8 produced 325 hp, and 560 pound feet of torque. Much like the suburban, the gasoline version uses a four-speed transmission, but the diesel used a five speed.
My wife has a low mileage 4x4 2002 Excursion with the the 7.3 Stroker diesel in it. It truly is a beast. She gets cash offers from people wanting to buy it every time she drives it.
i hate those rust buckets so much
don't forget the 7.3 powerstroke diesel
You could get a 2500 suburban in the early 2000s with the 8.1 liter vortec too
I miss that truck, always wanted one. Wish it would come back.
As an American, a Suburban is mac-daddy of culdesac living. They're on every corner, but they're reliable and utilitarian, so the average soccer mom can fit her 4 kids and all the gear no problem.
European here. My wife can fit our three children and our medium to large dog in a Peugeot 206 just fine. They are getting old now, but ten years ago they were about the most common car you could find on the street. Nobody needs a suburban. At the most, people think they need a suburban.
@@autobootpilootI mean, most of us could do with less in many aspects of life. Larger equals more room, which usually means more comfort. I’m sure you could fit an adult and 3 kids in even smaller vehicles than your 206 if needed.
@@autobootpiloot and where do you fit? What about the luggage associated with 3 kids? Lastly, I seriously doubt that 3 booster seats will fit in a 206 especially with a “large” dog. The suburban is huge indeed (even for US standards) but it offers plenty of space for everything. It is also a cultural thing. Americans travel more with a car than Europeans and a big vehicle not only makes it easier but it also opens possibilities. Don’t forget that our parking spaces are much bigger so a big vehicle doesn’t really feel that big. Like I said - it’s a cultural difference and the suburban fits it perfectly.
@@thebulgarianguy8461
when I go with, we usually take our Subaru legacy. Either that, or the dog needs to go in the back and luggage is compromised a bit.
Fun fact: three full seats fit better in a small Peugeot 206 than in a 04 (to 09) Subaru legacy. I had to sell my beloved car to properly fit three car seats and now drive a newer gen Subaru legacy that’s a bit wider. Somehow a clever designed car doesn’t have to be large to be functional.
Luggage is usually not that big of a deal. Before we had a dog, we didn’t even fill the Subaru legacy (wagon) up to the windows when we left for a week. And we use reusable dipers so they take up a lot of space. I honestly think we can’t even fill a suburban even if we tried to, we don’t have the baby stuff for that. And that’s not because a lack of funds btw.
@@TheSlugJonesmy mother is one of seven children. Back in the 70’s my grandfather had a beetle. They went on day trips with the whole family in that beetle. The youngest went on the shelf above the engine (engine sits in the back, if you don’t know) and the rest just sat on top of each other.
Another American here, As many have already pointed out, the Suburban is so commonplace here that nobody notices or cares about them. But seeing one drive on UK roads with a British number plate certainly draws attention (at least from me and everyone else here!) - That being said, I'd love to see more videos of American cars being reviewed by you in the UK, especially imported cars that are fairly uncommon to see in Europe such as the Suburban (they don't all have to be that big either haha). Great review too, excited to see more!
We own a Range Rover HSE in Colorado and love it and have rented Suburbans for driving trips in other parts of the country. Last year we drove a 2023 iteration from Spokane, Washington through Glacier National Park Park and up into Jaspar National Park in Canada - about 2500 miles. The Suburban is surprisingly agile and,with 420 hp, plenty powerful. Where's the HSE feels a bit like an Audi A6 on platform sneakers over 100 mph, the long wheelbase Suburban is rock solid. The gas mileage was surprisingly good.
Brit here, we rented a Suburban in the states back in 2009 for 1 month while driving it 9,000 miles from LA > San Diego > Texas > Dallas > Vegas > Lake Tahoe > San Fran > Sacremento > down the golden coast back to LA and it never missed a beat. We even got lost taking it down the Old Yosemite Road which was, let's say scary as hell, being one of the largest cars on a single track dirt road in the mountains.😮 But it never once missed a beat and have always been a lover of the Chevy Sub since then. Ours was a V8 and it pulled like an Ox, was in a champaign colour and at the age of 25, boy did it deliver what was needed. I even had it parked next to a Range Rover and it made that look small. 😂
That sounds like an amazing trip across the US. I’m glad you enjoyed a Suburban. As far as the engine, all suburbans and tahoes come standard with a V8. No 6 cylinders or 10 cylinders.
sick tvr i wish we got them in America
@redlight3932 you know your TVRs 👍 they should be hitting the 25 year rule later this year for the early 1999 models, already seen a couple shipped over in prep. Mine is a 2006 so a few years till it's in scope.
@@redlight3932 We did get TVRs here in America.
@@redlight3932 We did get them here.
American 🙋🏻♂️: people here still think these things are huge; but almost every part of the country has enough space to “make it work.” Even in tight, crowded urban spaces like NYC, there are still a ton of these being used for rideshare. My dad had the LWB Expedition when I was growing up, and he lived in Brooklyn. The size was never really an issue for street parking. And when it came time for us and friends and cousins to go ski for a weekend, 8 seats and the big trunk were perfect.
Yuropoors minds can't comprehend that
thats more of a fact that american cities are often built to be centered around cars, not people
@@ShaiyanHossain "muh the people "muh think of the people" "muh yuropoors are much more humane"
@@LaTacheGrandCru Americans are slaves to car dependency
All full size crew cab pickups are longer than the Suburban and some are wider, I have no idea why people think the Suburban is some sort of leviathan
American here. My parents had suburbans for about as long as I can remember. I have 4 other siblings, we kinda needed the space. My dad taught me how to drive in his black 07 suburban. I currently own a white 2002 Suburban 2500 with a Duramax diesel engine and an Allison transmission. It’s a tank and I love it!
My Dad had a 1975 Suburban, heavy half ton with a 350. It went like hell, learned to drive it on country roads in Ontario. I drifted the hell out of it on dirt roads, got it airborne and had a blast with a smile from ear to ear. Great vehicle, burned dinosaurs at an alarming rate, and I have fantastic memories trailer camping across Canada from coast to coast. Enjoy the drive.
British ex-pat living in Texas, had a Suburban in the past, absolutely fantastic vehicle. Good power, car ride comfort, superb passenger and luggage mover. Now have a 2021 full size Silverado pickup (with color coded camper shell) for work and everyday driving and that too rides like a super comfortable car...with all my tools in the back lol
You've gone full native.
How did you migrate to the US if you don’t mind me asking? Meet a lovely lassie or just got a job over there?
@@JohnSmith-wx9wj 🤣🤣he sure has.
@@time2blowstuffup when we emigrated in 1999 it was with my job and we were in Nevada for four years before returning to the UK. In 2017 we emigrated again with my wife’s job (she is a nurse and through medical employment you get a green card), this time we plan on getting our citizenship.
traitor
American here: Suburbans are very popular here. Suburban families own them a lot. We always rent one to go on family trips. Last year we rented one to go from Seattle to Whistler with 4 adults, 2 kids and 2 dogs plus ski equipment. We weren’t cramped.
My uncle's older model Suburban (I think it was a 2001) was the first car I drove in Australia when I moved from the UK at age 18. GM sold them with Holden badges here and a bit of trivia that only Americans would pick up on, is that the Aus market Suburbans had Trailblazer dashboards!
Anyway, it was absolutely TERRIFYING driving that around unfamiliar streets, after coming from just passing my test in the UK in my grandma's 1997 3 door Fiesta 😂😂
I had an aerobics instructor, a female - and all she drove was a Suburban, in fact she wanted a totally solid white suburban, grill and all ... which she had done - it was a beautiful suburban, but that was 30 yrs ago. It seemed everyone wanted a suburban, but now today there are so many types of SUVs out there, there's no WOW factor.
My sister had one in the 70's. It allowed placement of children far enough back to prevent items from hitting the driver on the fly.
Used it every day.
But a Jaguar as a daily driver?
Now THAT'S crazy!
You don’t get jag parts at suburban prices
@@rogermiller2159 despite the escalade and suburban being the same underpinnings (mostly) you don't get escalade parts at suburban prices either.
Maybe I'm a little bit exotic on this topic - as a German. I had a Suburban (GMT400) 24 years ago and I loved it. It was the LT3500, the big boy with 8 nut wheels, AWD and the 6.5 liter diesel, called "the beast" by my friends. Much too big for a little town like Kiel (Northern Germany), but it was so nice to drive. Despite being a turbo diesel it was a guzzler, but back in the days I didn't think about that, just happy about the 150l tank. Looking at diesel price today and now living in Hamburg, I'm glad not to own it any longer. But the memories are still nice, we had a lot of fun with that car. I stlll think that the GMT400 was the best looking one - my personal opinion, of course.
Kiel is not considered as "a little town" in Germany, nor in the US, lol.
Here in America I just bought a 2500 version with the 7.4 L gas V8 1993 model year and it's taking a lot of work to get back on the road but it's the coolest truck I've had
As a east-european, I also think the GMT400 is the best looking generation, although the newer ones also look great. I never understood the hate for American cars, people either have no idea about them or they compare them to cars designed for the EU market, which are made with completely different design goals.
@@SomeOne_86 both reasons.
@@SomeOne_86Well, the reason is (as an American) that they are usually cheaply made, fat, terrible at cornering, often ugly, and far larger than their owners actually need.
Growing up, we had a 2000 Suburban 2500 (6.0 v8 married to a 4-speed transmission with overdrive, a 4.10 rear differential, and 4 wheel drive). The truck was unstoppable. I believe, at the time, the truck sold for $48,000 new.
My brother and his wife currently have the truck. It’s been on family road trips to Yellowstone, MOAB, through the Rocky Mountains, and all over the Sierra Nevada mountain range, all while towing a pretty substantial travel trailer. It has around 200,000 miles on the odometer and still going strong. Only had to do minor maintenance and regular oil changes.
Suburbans are cars for big families who don't want a minivan. I am on my 5th suburban. In addition to hauling my wife & 4 kids (or up to 7 of my middle school students), I routinely haul full sheets of plywood or drywall, lumber up to 12', and all of my handyman tools. Suburban is _the_ most versatile vehicle you can own--it puts the U in SUV.
The Suburban is a guilty pleasure of a car that charms with its honesty.
I would have to disagree. For me and my family, it would be a sentence in purgatory.
I’ve always been fascinated by American cars because they are built perfectly for American roads, and are totally bonkers anywhere else. I remember seeing a 70s Cadillac (Coupe deVille I believe) driving past Guildford station. It was so wide that it was barely able to stay in a single lane, and the body roll as it trundled round a corner was comical. It looked like a boat on wheels, but I can’t deny I loved it!
They work well in Australia and vice-versa. It's the open roads and space. American roads are vast wide and not well maintained, so our cars are large comfortable and dont need to handle sharp switch backs. If you had a euro hach hear it would be small under powerd and ride to harsh. American cars don't do well in Europe for the same reason sharks don't work well in the African serengetti and lions don't do so hot in the middle of the pacific. It's not ones better than the other it's just they are adapted to there own home.
@@robertstone9988 Corolla's and Civic's seem to do well anywhere, though?
@@Biru_to I didn't say they don't work only there Designed and optimized for a different environment. I think a lot of non Americans think american cars aren't any good, In reality It's like the shark in the African serengetti thing. Sharks are amazing predators in the ocean It's just a lump of gray flubber rotting in the sun in the serengetti. When I said European hatches don't do well here the car i had on my mind was the old beatles. woefully underpowered for American roads. Get a 72 super beetle on the interstate, and see how long until you're looking for an exit 😂 no one would say a 2024 civic is underpowered but have you driven a mid 80s civic? I have. You have to think that a lot of new stuff.Even imports are designed for american markets now.
It’s funny, anytime I see a video about US land yachts, half the photos have EU or UK plates. The domestic collectors market just doesn’t care about non performance cars, so really nice ones go overseas and rusty ones wind up in demolition derby’s or donating their engines.
@robertstone9988 As a American who has been around a lot of American cars. I think your argument is flawed. American cars are bad. They are really poorly built and unreliable. Toyota is now our best selling brand in the US.
Maybe their cars in theory and on paper fit Americans tastes. But they are so cheap and terrible Americans have been fleeing from them for over 50 years. They are all husks with mediocrity all over.
I'm American, but had the exact same vehicle you did the video on....and loved it! Can not beat it for family vacations and even good for daily commutes. Road and handled beautifully, and was fantastic in the snow (in all weather). Family eventually grew up, we put a lot of miles on it, and it was time to downsize. But it fit out lives perfectly through the child raising years. Lots of storage space for pack and plays, strollers, and anything else you would have need to have with you for a growing and traveling family. Don't know how you guys across the pond get by without having something like these as an option.
Texan here: Suburbans are too big for me, personally, but they're pretty much a staple over here. If my neighbor got one I'd hope they were well aware of how big it actually is lol. My husband owns a smaller SUV, an '05 Trailblazer LS that has the Vortec 4.2L I-6. Tows real easy and drives reliably. SUVs like the Suburban, Tahoe, Trailblazer, Yukon, Envoy, and Sierra were all made for hauling and traveling. Big Beasties with a purpose, and you know what? They do it well.
My brother used to live in Midland, TX - oil country. One Sunday morning he sent me to the grocery store to buy some milk. There were twelve vehicles in the parking lot, and SIX of them were Suburbans. People buy these because they can carry so much, and they're durable. They're something of a status symbol in some places. Drive one across the U.S. and you'll understand their popularity.
Brit here: if I owned this bus, I would chain smoke cigars, wear big gold chains and rings whilst playing the soprano theme tune on repeat
Brit here: if you owned this, I would sublet the rear left seat to a large family.
As an Italian American - You need the Escalade ESV for that- Suburbans are for families... Escalades are the sign that you're "made" ! (Trust me- I had one, of each lol).
@@StevenDurette-bq7zd but in the UK where the yank tanks are very rare, it’ll still work
That's not at all how they're perceived here. We just see it as a generic family car, even sort of a "mom car". 🤣
@@StevenDurette-bq7zd If you think what car you had somehow "made" you then enjoy being a small, little man.
I learned to drive at 16 in one of those 7th gen Suburbans. It was four wheel drive and had two solid leaf-sprung axles. I loved driving it. It also sat 9 people. My parents finally sold it with around 312,000 miles on it. I really love Suburbans and notice them when I see them, but mostly they're pretty invisible over here in the States (except in big cities). Most of the time when people buy them, they have lots of kids to cart around and maybe a camper trailer to tow. They're generally pretty reliable and get used up by the families that buy them. Many Suburbans on the used car listings have lived kind of hard lives, but are still ticking along.
I wouldn't bat an eye if someone bought one. I live in Utah and it's been an incredibly common SUV over the decades as we have the highest birth rates in the US. My family owned 2 different Suburbans over the years. One was an awesome custom supercharged build. Fantastic low mpg family hauler.
Viewer from Finland who enjoys American cars (American car culture among the northern countries is fairly big) and I own a 1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic with the smaller 305cid engine (5.0L), that is getting a 454cid (7.4L) engine put into it this year... and I would absolutely love for more somewhat mundane American stuff to be shown on this channel, as from a Brits viewpoint it can be very interesting and give some good new perspective. I am also a French car enthusiast and so i have a similar curiosity to when Americans have a go in French cars.
What I really like about Northern Europeans who like American cars is you see the beauty in our cars we don't normally care about. The 4th gen Caprice is such a badass car, and extremely comfortable. I think the Roadmaster which shared the same platform is the most comfortable car I ever been in, even more then modern Mercedes, Teslas or anything like that.
Greetings from California! You have interesting perspectives!
About French automotive engineering- Those guys are so creative, so clever, almost to the point of being "strange"? Or "weird"? I was looking at all the admirable systems in the Citroen SM, and it just blows me away. Like it was designed by extraterrestrials! Hah ha!
Terve!
@@MealTeam6 moro
You're swapping a 454 into a '91 Caprice? That's AWESOME. Please upload a video of it.
American here. It is a very interesting take for me to see the suburban as rare! I’m from a smaller town and the suburbans and Tahoes and Yukons are all seen as “mom car” family haulers. Neither me or any family members owned one but over the years I’ve probably ridden in dozens. At 16 my best friend had an 04 Tahoe basically the shorter suburban. Hacked the mufflers off to let the ole 5.3 breathe and we had hours of fun cruising and mudding in it.
American here who also lived in the UK for 4 years. I've owned a lot of toys: Lotus Elise 111R, Corvettes, Porsche Boxster S, various MX-5s (including the BBR 200), Merc E55, BMW e39 M5, S2000, Prelude, etc...and many many more. The Suburban is my absolute GO-TO favorite vehicle I have ever owned. Mine is bulletproof reliable, can do truck things, car things, can tow, can carry a lot of payload, 7 passengers, and most importantly, is THE most comfortable car I've owned. I have one with the 6.0L in it but may get another one with the 8.1L. The Suburban is an amazing car/truck/suv.
Appreciate the info. Nice learning about auto’s across the pond
America is a big country, the UK is the size of Oregon. We travel alot within our own country.
The US is 2,800 miles long and 1,600 miles tall.
Texas alone is bigger than France.
The Suburban with a large family makes sense, it is very comfortable on long trips
Then you look at Canada. Second only to Russia in land mass, Ontario is roughly twice the size of Texas.
@@michaeltutty1540 yeah but most of that land is up in the tundra where even the first nations people say "what would we go there for"
@@michaeltutty1540 Canada does not matter.
Yup. Going 200 miles across the cascades in my 2015 this weekend. Short trip really. Had it just over 1000 miles each way into AZ and back last month.
How often to you travel 2,800 miles across the country?
I have a 2002 AWD Escalade I have been using in my real estate business. It went over 200,000 miles about 4 months ago. It has had no major issues and continues to serve me well! It is all about properly maintaining vehicles!
Not buying anything off a realtor that looks like a hobo and drives an 02 escalade 😂
I had a 2005 ESV - Loved that vehicle sold it at just over 200k miles and bought a MB S63 - worst decision of my life!
@@Unknown_Ooh That’s fine, I wouldn’t want to work with someone who goes out of their way to be unkind to someone they have never met.
@@Unknown_Oohthat would make you a fool
I'm a small business owner and when I do trade shows I see tons of them. It's the perfect vehicle for adapting to anything you need to do, taking the kids to school or sports, family camping, packing up the business to do a show. Although a 12 or 15 passenger van would technically be a more versatile option, with the suburban, you have decent styling and creature comforts, as well as 4WD if you need to pull a boat out of the water or you live in a snowy climate. Some people buy it as a status symbol I suppose, but for a small business owner, it's quite literally the only vehicle that has everything you need
We had an 83 diesel Suburban growing up. It wasn’t a daily driver, but for family holidays and road trips. It excelled at this and was perfect for a family of five. Now as an adult I have been looking for one for my family for the exact same reasons.
When we has our second child, I bought a suburban. The best family vehicle know (without being a minivan). Carries two strollers, numerous suitcases, a months worth of vacation supplies. Never having to tell your wife I can’t fit that extra suitcase is worth it’s weight in gold. Had it 15 years, just tires, brakes, oil and filters. Bulletproof reliability. My wife loved that vehicle, and could swing it into the smallest parking space. I used it to tow my race car, without complaint.
If I had to buy one last vehicle, to do everything, I would buy another one.
lol, I’m always happy to tell my wife she has to limit what she brings on road trips. Women seem to think vacation = moving across the country. 😂
First time i rode in a Suburban on the back seat, i kept looking back when the driver sped up, because the exhaust is so far that it sounds like a whole other V8 car behind
Yeah, with Suburbans or Escalades and Navigators, you sit in different area codes. Picture a very nice lounge chair and being able to spread, that's the idea of luxury here in the U.S. and I'm all for it.
@@jagtan13 same idea behind first class flights giving you leg room
My family has had 4 of the 7th generation Suburbans. All with the 7.4L/454 CI V8. They were used to pull camping trailers and also haul goods to flea markets. My brother has a 1992 8th generation he still uses.
You’re so correct about getting lads in the car and going to the game. These things have dragged us around from sports games, concerts, road trips, you name it. So many good things came from these rigs
Jay, one thing that you appreciate that other British reviewers never understood: The big GM V8's are incredibly reliable and really easy to modify. And they're cheap to fix and physically small (no overhead cams), so they fit in anything, including a Miata, Volvo 240 and dozens of other cars. Plus, the horsepower and torque are all on the low end, where you need it. The newest 6.6 liter version is absolutely bonkers.
As for the size, we don't give it a second thought. My daily driver is a four-door Dodge pickup with 4WD. I love being able to haul firewood, pull a trailer full of motorcycles and whatever else I want to do.
Sadly "incredibly reliable" is a bit less applicable 2007 and after, but delete active fuel management and you're right on the money.
Size matters less in the US, as well. That road Jay was driving on reminds me of our one-and-a-half lane rural roads that go through the middle of BFE, meanwhile our normal highways look like you ripped two lanes off the M1 and stuck them in a corn field with nothing for miles. The Autobahn makes our interstates look like airport runways with how straight and flat they can be, and yet big brother always sets the speed limit laughably low, you'll be driving through the middle of nowhere, North Texas with nothing for miles, not even the stereotypical tumbleweed, and they'll be like "you know what? You can have 80, that's perfectly reasonable, top fuel cars routinely go over 300 mph down straight stretches like this, with even less room to correct for crosswinds and bumps in the drag strip and ever decreasing numbers of crashes as our understanding of aerodynamics, grippy drag slicks, and controlling 4,000 hp to the wheels improves, but you might or might not get pulled over or ticketed by a fucking unmarked speed camera mounted in a hollowed out joshua tree for doing 91 on this perfectly flat, straight section of 3 to 4 lane one-way highway with nobody and nothing else around for 50 miles but the distant cactus, dry riverbed, or orange pebble."
The best engine swap for the Volvo 240 is the old Ford 351 Windsor. A friend is installing a Dodge Ram 5.7 litre Hemi V8 into a 1990 Volvo 240 estate.
I had the lucky privilege of being taken in one from the centre of San Fransisco to Lake Tahoe. It towed a huge trailer with 4 race snow mobiles and workshop with ease. Yeah the snow was perfect. 60 mph on ice was awesome. The driver announced that he was going to run the toll on Golden Gate bridge. Us brits shouted "noooo, they have guns!". We nearly shat ourselves. Not to worry though, he had a transponder in the window :)
I used to buy Nissan parts through an Australian company (PerfectRun) who would order from Japan and get them shipped direct to me. It took 4 days and cost half the price. Not sure if you could do it now.
fun fact: toll gate workers are also underpaid wagies. They probably don't really give a shit if someone blows the toll as long as they don't rip the drop arm off. My uncle once skipped a toll getting off the interstate in Oklahoma because the booth was unattended and didn't have a change machine. He managed it because we were in a 2000 Suburban. Just jumped the curb right into the dirt and drove around it. Of course OKDOT sent him a ticket, can't remember if he fought it or just paid, I hope he fought it because honestly fuck OKDOT for thinking it's okay to have a toll booth on the god damned interstate exit with no way to make change when we already had to go through multiple also unattended toll booths to get to that exit. Never driving through Oklahoma again, second worst state in the country other than Cali because of all the fucking tolls.
I own a GMC 2500 Duramax that is the short box and it is 1.5 feet longer than my dad's GMC Yukon Denali and 1.5 feet shorter than the 2500 long box. They are truly a big vehicle.
We once headed out with 8 200+lb men and 9 sets of golf clubs for a 8+ hour drive going 120 to 130km/h and no one was in the least bit uncomfortable. A trip that would take multiple vehicles in anything smaller and I'm sure would end up using much more fuel. FYI The Yukon gets better fuel economy than my trailblazer SS. Nice review😀.
Part of the ease in driving comes from the simple shape and balanced view of the corners of it. Makes it easy to learn where they are when maneuvering in tighter places. If you happen to have an older version with a steel bumper you may have even less concern.
I ran a 2003 Yukon XL for 7 years in the UK. Excellent car, ran 7 people and 12 bags to the airport with room to spare. Pulled trailers and caravans effortlessly and loaded up with 8x4 sheets.
I took my friend’s dad to the local timber supplier, as he needed some 8x4 sheets for his camper conversion. He wasn’t convinced we could get them all in without putting them at funny angles, or up on wheel arches. Back seat left at his, middle row down, and the look of shock and amazement on his face. Priceless. If I ever need to replace my ‘00, I’ll be on the lookout for another of the same generation. These are just awesome.
@@vivalesvegas it's great being able to shut the back with 8ft on the floor
@@vivalesvegas Good news is if youre looking to import them there is a million of them in the US, plus they were all reliable and cheap to fix so you dont have to be too picky buying them
@@phantom4167 I’m on the Suburban group on faceache, and I’ve seen that some of the members have picked them up for amazing prices, like just a few hundred bucks. And they’re in really good condition too.
Except, look for vehicles not from a rust belt state. Go southwest and the vehicles hardly have any rust at all!
The way you threaded it round our roads and villages was impressive, testament to the car’s build and visibility and your driving! A thoroughly capable car.
Actually they're quite easy to drive believe it or not. It's why you see lots of women buying them.
I have a 2018 Yukon xl with a 6.2 liter and 10 speed. Tows a 25 ft boat with ease, hauls my whole family comfortably. Smooth as silk on the highway. Decent mileage too. 23mpg hwy. easy to work on too. Use it for its intended purpose and it never lets you down.
I see so many suburbans, everytime I'm on the road, they stick out to me about as much as trees do.
On the otherhand... the square body, 80s era suburban is awesome. I love them. I would certainly notice one of those "murder mobiles" if it was driving by.
My wife and I drove a 1989 three row Surburban from Minnesota to Playa del Carmen Mexico in 2011. We called it the Beast. It was a bit of a rustbucket but the interior was mint and it was fully equipped. 350 V8 throttle body... 4 Wheel drive that we never used. We were hualing a 10 foot trailer hauling all our earthly possesions and although we got to Playa with 1st and 2nd gear and reverse dropped out as soon as we got to Playa it got us there. Put in a rebuilt tranny and we drove it for another 4 or 5 years before it hit the scrap heap, Bought it for 750 USD probably put another grand into brakes.....shocks etc....the Beast was a legend among our friends. We're still here in Playa and the Beast holds a special place in my heart.
Sounds like your living the dream man
American here: Suburban doesn't make you stick out. Regular burban's are usually soccer mom/middle class family transport. If you have the GMC Yukon version, you might be a car dealership owner or other upper middle class business owner. Older burbans usually are farm trucks or for less well off large family cars. If its all blacked out, it could be a government/fleet car. I learned to drive in one, its a middle class family staple of a car and a good one at that. You can fit a full 4x8 sheet of plywood or a whole shipping pallet in the back, which is super useful as well when you go to the lumberyards.
Hired a 6.4 Litre version in Florida for 2 weeks in 2014, 6 adults and lots of cases, great fun and with USA fuel prices big smile on my face, None available in 2022 so we took the GMC Yukon for two weeks, big difference in those 8 years. Not as big as the Suburban.
Great review as usual JayEmm
first vehicle i ever drove was an 88 suburban. Even those old square bodies drove nice. Glad to see someone enjoying it that doesn't normally get to, its different in a good way. Cheers!
My roommate in college had a seventh gen Suburban and that thing was great. Nothing could stop it (except a broken water pump) and he helped me move from Texas to Michigan with all of my stuff and towed my car on a trailer with that vehicle. Really unstoppable
The LS engines (4.8, 5.3, 6.0) take after their predecessor, they also love blowing water pump gaskets.
My uncle had a suburban because he has 5 kids. My father in law had a suburban when kids were in the house but has regularly owned a Tahoe (shorter cab/wheelbase version of the Suburban) since the kids moved out. I've been looking at used suburbans because I tow heavy stuff and need to carry people, too. Suburbans are just such great vehicles for this country: they're big, comfy, reliable, strong, simple. and tough vehicles. As such, they're everywhere and almost ubiquitous in the suburbs and rural areas.
13:48 I live in Texas, and drive a white 06 Yukon Denali, so it came from the factory with 20” chrome wheels and a chrome grill. It also has the 6.0 engine, and the AWD (not 4WD) system from the Silverado SS. Engines are almost identical too, the Denali is rated at just 5-10 hp less. Super comfortable for long trips, and I’ve towed a 36’ camper with it, no issues.
love your show. texas here- if a friend pulled up in a suburban, it's either because they have a ton of kids or because they do a lot of camping and don't like their gear to get wet in the back of a pick-up truck. the suburban lets you get a lot of work done for not (relatively) a lot of money. and we all know that serial killers drive white window-less vans.
As an American who grew up in a '97 suburban, and watching this in my final year Avalanche, was fun to see the British perspective on a car I pass dozens of every day. Great video!
US native here. I drive the competition vehicle, the Ford Expedition.
The Chevy has the same features and I would be happy to drive one.
As a younger man I drove VWs and BMWs.
These land yachts with a v8 are incredibly fun to drive.
The independent rear suspension and great bakes
makes this type of vehicle a joy on the twisties.
That's really the glaring difference that used to exist between them. The Suburban was a solid rear axle with optional automatic locking differential for decades and decades, including my 2000 model. I believe the newest, 12th generation models are the only ones with independent rear suspension.
The models with the live rear axle are excellent at towing and off road/soft road activities, but do not handle predictably. Mine tends to stick (with comical body roll) until it hits a bump mid corner, then it shimmys in an alarming way as the sway bar transfers energy to the other wheel
As a American i love my GM SUVs I have had a few of them from 80s to the 2007 which is my current model I have. My pops had several as well we both love that platform and once we venture out of that platform we turn back to it cause of the bang for the buck. Great for traveling towing and hauling. My older models I've had I put them to work and never had a issue. What I love the most is that they are very low maintenance and inexpensive to repair
One of my top favorite vehicles to have ever driven, was my Uncle's '89 diesel 3/4 ton GMC suburban. It had running boards and a visor over the windshield. It was a tank.
I live in Florida. If my neighbor suddenly bought a Suburban, the first thing I would think would be something like: "I guess they're expecting another kid; maybe twins!"
And while the power numbers for the motor may not look good to a fan of European cars, you have to remember that it's making those numbers at what is usually a much lower RPM range. You don't have to rev the heck out of the motor to get any useful amount of power out of it.
yeah it's not meant to be a sports car, but it will get you quickly on the highway
My answer to the engine power is just, like… have fun driving a European car from state to state in America lmao. That sounds like a form of capital punishment, my legs are cramping and my back hurts just thinking about sitting in some “sporty” little BMW for the drive from just Miami to Tallahassee, and I live in Kentucky so we’re still nowhere near home😂
Hi Jay, America here... We currently own a 1993 Chevrolet Suburban Cheyanne 2500 (3/4 Ton) 4WD nicknamed the Beast by our Children. It's heavy, gets atrocious gas mileage but will take us ANYWHERE no matter what Weather Conditions and drives very well. Think of the driving experience as like a 1936 Rolls Royce. Steering heavy, adequate power, and so forth. Which means, if you need to pull your House off of it's foundation, it won't break a sweat!!
I owned one. It was older than this one but i loved it. I towed a boat with it and it had plenty of room for camping supplies and all the kids and pets.
I have a 1993 Suburban K2500. I bought it from the stoner down the street from my home in Southern California. I paid a ridiculously low $2000 for it. It’s got four wheel drive, the massive and underpowered 7.4 liter big block engine, and a 44-gallon fuel tank, which means it gets about 12 mpg and costs over $200 to fill up. But I love it anyway. It’s my weekend fixer-upper project truck, and it’s fantastic for the occasional trip to Home Depot…can fit sixteen-foot boards in it! And it just looks so good.
Here in the Colonies, the ones who buy Defenders are poseurs who want to say they spent more than you did, but didn't want to be yet another BMW/Mercedes-Benz owner.
As an American in Montana I most often see families with one large truck and one large SUV, women in general prefer SUVs, those with children LOVE them.
Same in the Smoky Mtns where I live. Momma drives a big honkin SUV and daddy drives a jacked up 4X4 truck. A truck, SUV, or tractor won’t sell here if it isn’t 4WD because there’s still a lot of dirt roads here and getting sideways on a mountain never ends well.
@@wasidanatsali6374 I live in New Jersey. There's one of these things four door down. Black with a blacked-out glass. The people who own it have young children.
Nice commentary and I loved the musical intro, as an American this has a nice production value to it, reminds me of Top Gear in a way.
American here. I drive an 07 Avalanche LTZ. Basically the same vehicle and trim level with the 6.0 under the hood. To answer the question about the neighbors, its completely normal to see these things, or one of its cousins, EVERYWHERE. Glad you seemed to enjoy it overall. Its definitely one of the most comfortable driving vehicles i have owned.
These things are some of the best when it comes to an ole American workhorse. These are remarkable vehicles, they have taken so many families on roadtrips and to daily activities. They are work trucks as well. I have 2 of them.. I love them. So easy and cheap to maintain as well 🎉
This was so fun to see a Brit’s perspective 👍😎
Hey love your vids 🙌
Suburbans are a very common sight here in America. I’ve never owned one. But every time I ride in one it’s pretty impressive. I’m a relatively tall guy. And it’s a very comfortable ride. And surprisingly, they are built like tanks. And have rock solid drivetrains. You see many of these from all eras with 200k plus miles still running around like normal. American cars might have a bit of a reputation for quality. But the trucks and SUV’s built in America are rock solid. Hence , the high resale value.
Highest mile car ive ever personally seen was a 1999 Yukon XL (rebadged suburban), guy owned it since new and drove the socks off it. Looked pretty good considering its age and milage, especially since it was still original engine and trans. Mileage stands at 510k miles, and is still climbing as he still drives it
Those were built in my town, especially the 90s and 00s ones, if the last letter in the vin is a J it was made here in Janesville. My family helped build them, too bad the plant closed down otherwise I’d probably be working there!
@@TheMW2informer id proudly work at a plant if we still had them around (screw the gov)
I always have a Suburban. Growing up in the 80s and 90s, my father had a white 69 GMC Suburban that we used mostly for out camping trips, so once I became an adult (he passed when I was 12) I have always had a GMC (not a Chevrolet) Suburban. I currently own a white 1994 GMC Suburban 2500 with the big block 454ci engine. I measure her fuel economy in gallons per mile, not miles per gallon. She gets driven about 5 times a year on long road trips to remote places with various loads of people and gear, and she never skips a beat.
This made me chuckle, Being American that's a daily driver for sure 🙂 glad you liked it. Those are like the Mom rigs Kids/Groceries/Football Gear/Hockey all around everything Vehicle & Awd always has been a must for me to have the wife drive (All Season Vehicle). Excellent choice for Rock Auto they are the ones for Parts. As always Have a great day!
The reason I love these big old American SUVs is because, apart from their other qualities, they don't pretend to be something they're not. They're not a crossover, they're not a sports car, they're not a weird hybrid of different things, they're just proper, practical, comfortable big family cars that can easily swallow a whole family and their luggage without making a fuss about it. I also think they used to look badass back in the day (this one certainly does), but nowadays sadly they don't.
They really can’t. A minivan can hold way more stuff and people than a suburban can.
@@yungrichnbroke5199Uhh no. A minivan when fully loaded has almost no trunkspace compared to a suburban.
@@Username-2 minivans have tonssss of trunk space
@@yungrichnbroke5199 They do, but not nearly as much as this suburban. Especially not in 2007 when this came out. They’ve gotten much better in that regard.
The big difference between the capabilities of the two. Suburban can carry up to 8 people plus cargo. More importantly the Suburban can tow up to 6 tons of trailer. Minivans, being unibody front wheel drive things, are limited to 1¾ tons, but towing the full rated weight cargo and passenger rating is reduced. Suburban is by far more heavy duty than any minivan or crossover.
As an American I can confidently say we dont give a rats @$$ about seeing another Suburban 19ft, or Expedition 18ft, or Wagoneer 17.8ft... anywhere at any time. Hell my 2003 Lincoln Town Car is 18ft long and its a sedan...thats 5.5m for you Chaps
We also use ft and yards here btw
@@GuitarTalkuneditedwhat a weird coincidence. Despite being officially metric the US uses traditional units unofficially.
@@lookoutforchristhe UK is a weird one too. Some people love metric, some only work in traditional. No matter what anyone tells you - in the UK by law distance signs can only be in Miles and Yards (metres illegal) but offical signs for heights they must always be in ft but can show metres. Car speedos must be in MPH. Yet, until we left the EU 4 years ago, all weights must be advertised in KG (much to the annoyance of traditional butchers) but now lbs and kg can be used. Liquids always sold in millilitres EXCEPT Beer and Milk they are allowed to be sold in pints (but our pints are bigger than US pints).. confused yet? Britain is
@@GuitarTalkuneditedI can do feet, but I can't do yards 😂
Honestly I wish my sat nav let me mix and match. I'd have miles and meters 😂
@@GuitarTalkuneditedMy favourite British idiosyncrasy is how we buy Petrol and Diesel in litres, but fuel economy is measured in miles per gallon. 😂
clarkson and may said the same thing about their trucks when they were in Canada.
They're fantastic when you've got room for them.
Lots of room, lots of visability, they handle well for their size.
They're entirely location dependant.
Interstingly, when i see a foreigner move to Canada, they often are seen in the biggest fullsized trucks and SUV's.
Of course i live in the middle of nowhere though.
I rented a Suburban (the current model) when I was over in the 'States last year and loved it. I'd actually booked and pre-paid for a Taho however they were short of them on the day so got a free upgrade to the Suburban instead. The 6.2L V8 & 10-speed auto worked well together & really got the big vehicle moving however I got the feeling that the big & torquey V8 unit could have actually done better with a couple of fewer gears behind it (my '17 Holden Caprice here in Australia with the 6.2L LS3 engine has the 6-speed auto which seems more than sufficient) as it would sometimes hunt up & down the range unnecessarily. Just like James did, I actually found that the Suburban felt more compact and less intimidating to drive around town than its huge exterior dimensions would otherwise suggest.
In 🇨🇦, a Suburban just blends into the background. If my neighbour brought one home, I'd likely not even notice.
Dutchy here. Back in 1999 my parents had bought a 72 6th gen Suburban (not the square body) with the barn doors and a 350 cui coupled to a 4 speed manual.
It was sunfaded matte poopbrown with about 10 different colours beneath, ranging from red to yellow to blue to green and then some more.
Somehow it had so much torque there simply was no need to change gears: just put in fourth and off you went.
Brilliant car !
These are great for family vehicles. I have four boys, during the week get them all in and add football gear or band instruments you will LOVE this car. And on the weekend it is perfect for vacation toys, towing boats to the lake and motorcycles to the desert. The only thing I hate is the poor gas milage, but I am going to see about upgrading to a newer engine or an electric conversion to solve those problems. And you can pick one up for $10,000 US in great shape, half that if you accept less then perfect conditions. I got my 1995 model twenty years ago and it is still running strong, 200,000 miles and original engine and trans.
I live in suburban Virginia. I'll echo what others have said, there are so many Suburbans on the road you hardly notice them. But when I see one, I usually assume it's driven by a family with 3 or more kids, a couple of dogs, and a propensity to go boating, skiing, or generally spend the weekend going on long roadtrips to fun outdoor destinations. You can fit the whole kit and kaboodle in it including bags, sports gear, coolers, tents, picnic baskets, heck even tow your boat or camper if you like, basically whatever you need, and still have some room to stretch your legs. I think its versatility and size is why it's been such a success here in the States for so long.
"Where do you park it?"
"Wales."
"Cardiff? Bangor? Cardigan?"
"Yes. At the same time..."
yikes
😂
🤣🤣👌
Someone brought one of these over? Honestly that's pretty awesome. While I'm glad the roads aren't full of things this size, it's actually kinda cool. The "normal" stuff we don't get is definitely more interesting in my eyes.
Both my dad and stepdad had a suburban. My dad had a 1991 gmc suburban, and he still drives after he rolled it. My step-dad had a 2001 Chevy Suburban and my step-dad was so impressed with how reliable it was for him. She had her issues like every truck does, but he said, "Given the chance, I would buy one again."
These may be rare in UK, but in mainland Europe where everybody drives on the "wrong side" they are a lot more common. Especially 9th generation and up. If rust doesn't get them they will run forever ending up as farm trucks for towing heavy trailers and also doubling as family vehicles when the government decides that paving and plowing that 5 mile gravel road to your village is just "too much money" to spend.
The Gm models (Suburban, Yukon XL and Escalade ESV) are preferable, because while seating 7 or 8 or 9 people and 1 large dog, they still remain under 3500kg.
Yeah we see more and more of them here in continental Europe, but they are ludicrous, as the ultracapitalist country where I live has park places so narrow as to squeeze as many of them as possible for maximum profit, so these are a nightmare to park anywhere in a populated area... welcome to ultracapitalism, where greed and lust for profit rules supreme!
Wow, I'm shocked.
@@AnnatarTheMaiaIt's called pushing for smaller, safer cars. Your big SUV shouldn't be anywhere near a city.
@@omegadaboi I don't have an SUV, I would never own one (unless it was a LADA Niva). I'm a station wagon guy at heart, who firmly believes that station wagons are the ultimate driving machines.
@@AnnatarTheMaia Makes sense then, if the parking spaces are really THAT small, I think it's more from the city officials, not capitalism anyways.
This is the last thing I'd expect to see on JayEmmOnCars lmao
I want him to try to squeeze through British B roads a Hummer H1 or H2.
@@8draco8 I've long since learned to expect the unexpected on this channel. James will drive just about anything!
Old GM trainer here, probably the thing you british would like was the GMT 700 pickups with quadra steer, The rear wheels would also turn for a smaller turning cricle, especially good when towing a traialer. It didn't catch on to well because at the time it was 6400.00 option.
Having grown up in and with a 2007 yukon xl denali I can say it is quite the workhorse. Had no troubles hauling my family of 7 up and down the west coast. Still going strong at over 230k miles too