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LoL eSports S10 WORLDS 2020 Groups Round Robin 1 - TSM vs Fnatic Day 1 | League of Legends Worlds 2020 FNC vs TSM VOD 1080p Full HD.
Sixth match of the day - Fnatic vs TSM best of 1.
TSM vs FNC full game in HD 1080p.
Team Solomid Line-up:
Broken Blade - top Camille
Spica - jungle Nidalee
Bjergsen - mid Syndra
DoubleLift - ADC Senna
Biofrost - support Alistar
Fnatic Line-up:
Bwipo - Top Volibear
Selfmade - jungle Evelynn
Nemesis - mid Lucian
Rekkles - ADC Jhin
Hylissang - support Rakan
Patch: 10.19 - Season 10
Game date: 03.10.2020 | 10/03/2020 | October 3rd 2020
Game place: China
Casters: Ender and QuickShot
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I just wanna appreciate Hylissang's map presence. He had a really impressive vision score and allowed FNC to have map control throughout the game. That enabled Selfmade and the others to farm all the jungle camps on the map.
Even when they had a ~2.5k gold lead, which was not that significant, they also had at least a 5 level lead combined. Props to both teams, very enjoyable and tense game.
Honest question, but do you think Hylissang felt comfortable doing that because TSM was scared of the Evelynn? That jungle pick allowed Hylissang to roam freely. Even spica seemed scared of the Evelynn after 6 (as he should be.) Just curious on your thoughts. It was a great/tense game.
Tsm never contested vision that entire game lol
the control wards is out of place for tsm and with that evelynn can set where to gank and not
It wasnt hylli it was mostly eve
Another EU fanboy that praises the weakest link on fnatic he’s playing the hardest champ to kill in the entire game wow!
Bwipo seemed so happy after the 2v1
Where's the 1v2 sorry
Ian 12:00-12:05
It brang a big smile upon my face seeing him so happy
Lol Bwipo looks like he has downs
Kevin Strauss and you spell like you have downs
13:45
Bwipo: Heavily emotive
Spica: Dead serious
Nemesis: Just dead
ROFL Good One
Nemesis is the Death himself.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So TSM had a month to prepare... and they gave FNC Eve and Lucian
Wha ???
I didn't see Lucian as the issue this game at all. I'm for the criticism of Eve though
Rika lucian is what enables eve tho. Otherwise they have too much magic damage
@@tahkio Eve is AP, if you left lucian open it's free for Selfmade to pick his most confort pick.
The funny part is that TSM said something about banning EVE when they find out they were in the same group - and then they don't and this is what happens xD
@@TheGoonsies yeah. NA coaches don't know how to ban. Players should just ignore them, they know what's important.
Honestly this is a support Diff
Selfmade can farm peacefully while rakan is covering and doing the jungler job of protecting laners when they shove the minions to reset, small things do add up.
Eve is also one of the only broken champs in the game right now and also a massive power pick for Selfmade as a whole. I'm not saying she is so broken she's winning the games on her own like previous worlds and times in the spring/summer splits BUT her invis is one of those mechanics in the game that makes jungling unsafe, laning unsafe, it puts you on edge even if you are playing safe and have vision. You can only have 5 control wards on a map with true sight to spot her out and if you lose control you can't find her on camps that easily either. Eve should be 100% ban for this reason alone. Even a bad Eve player can make teams question their maco.
Tbh an afk player would have been a support difference over biofrost. Why would have flash q when it's a nidalee level 1 and Senna level 1. Who in the hell did they scrim that he thought it was the right move. Even if it was 3v3 you still aren't winning the trade.
Supp diff? I agree, Bio loves dying for some reason...and always has...
@Git Gud Yep it's not easy to play eve well. We've seen it with the eves in play ins, hasnt looked unbeatable at all... Selfmade is the best eve in europe and probably one of the best ones in the world. And the way he plays the map on the champ is really impressive to behold.
Hyli is doing good job but at the same time him and bwipo are the masters of ultra int. There isn't a game where hyli isn't making me nervous as fuck just watching when the camera is on him.
Getting destroyed at worlds - questioning their region - forgetting what happened - getting hyped for worlds - think they can beat top EU teams - getting destroyed at worlds
May the NA circle of life never stop.
ViolaMerda1 ... they weren’t destroyed though? It was a close game with self made being able to scale really hard being the game changer at the very end
idk if destroyed is the right word. It could have been anyone's game tbh.
@@cin5570 they fid get destroy. Hard outclassed in every lane...
HansoloQ counter top. Weak side bot. Eve getting a lead because of luv 1 invade also its self made eve. It was pretty even. Thought TSM lost draft. Not a destroy
I dont like NA either but bruh this is literally the first game smh, oh well LPL hype train lets go
43:23 Player of the game #Selfmade
*Evelynn* by *Selfmade*
*Runes* : Domination, Sorcery
○ ○ ● | ○ ○ ○
○ ○ ● | ○ ○ ●
○ ○ ● | ○ ○ ●
*Combos* : Q(1) + F + E + AUTO + Q(2) + R
Sucks that no crowd in Worlds this year shouting random "TSM TSM TSM" in the background
TRUEEE I didnt think about that... What a shame actually, one of the best parts of international league
And then promptly get quiet as soon as TSM starts losing.
@@n00bforever dude are you unfamiliar with people screaming tsm in games that tsm isnt playing?
The one positive of the coronavirus. The rest of the world is spared hearing the most obnoxious and worst fan base in league history.
thats great tho
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Hylli stopped the recall and tried to recall back again, if I'm not mistaken, that makes some sound even if you're not visible as long as your near enough. That's probably why they knew someone was in the alcove.
darkan cy true idk if it a bug or not but you hear a lot of stuff even if you dont have vision
I’m too lazy to look back at it, but I think if he kept channeling his recall he may have survived.
EmeraldGreenz it was 9 seconds when Senna threw her skill shot there, so he might’ve gotten out.
8:44 Spica miss a spear AND a trap on red buff.
Pull it together man.
Spica played so bad this game XDDD
Lmao didn't see the trap till now.
Hoooooly shit. That's terrible. The man was shook.
Spica looked kinda sus. Hopefully he got the jitters out.
Ur mama
spica was completely outclassed
It was Bjergsen and Brokenblade vs 5
@@danneltheflannel Bjergson did ok in lane but he didnt do much in team fights, basicaly all he did was not int.
I'd say biofrost being outclassed allowed Selfmade to do what he wanted
JG DIFF
They actually won after that lv1 cheeae
why is it spanish on league's website?
actually a very close game, until FNC snuk away the baron
That seems to always be the case at worlds with NA. Stay within spitting distance and them boom game is over.
Thats is gonna be na peak. Still close to the opponent but losing regardless
It looked close but tsm was at map disadvantage the majority of the game, and FNC kept senna behind specifically.
LeoxSevered true true. TSM made a couple good moves with the herald to get early tower pressure and their second dragon but overall FNC was in total control. The baron jus caught TsM totally sleeping.
Depends on how you perceive the game. If you were looking at it from a strictly gold perspective, then yes, it was close. But TSM were getting out Macroed and had little vision control over the game. And more importantly, Selfmade had a 3-4 level gap over TSMS jungler for most of the game, Bwipo had 1-2 levels over BB, even Nemesis had a level over Syndra, and Rekkles had a level -2 levels over Senna due to it. They were far more ahead , despite what the gold difference said.
@35:20 the Play of the game goes too...
Bb on the 1v2 kill
Bb play was better
@@egozocker14 this BB play? @39:50
@@TheOtherChef why would you even argue that. He got a kill in a 1 vs 2 situation. It was the better play
@Git Gud hes playing a tank top lol, 2x more hp same dmg, not that impressive tbh with the level advantage
1:09 I thought Mithy was reading the Bible there for a second
So Bjerg game plan to Farmbot?
1. Thanks epicskillshot.
2. Who dafak decided it was a good decision to have the names of the players sideways in champ select?
Right at 7:34 why tf did biofrost flash q in when senna/nidalee are only level 1 and senna is a late game carry?
despite brokenblade's tryhard attempts/solo laning, FNC still wins kekw feelsbadman
Gotta give credits to selfmade, man really set fear in hearts of TSM with his ultra hd assasination
?? except that kill on eve, bb pretty much got smashed by bwipo
Caffrey Lee but it was a losing matchup on 1v1 until late game the thing is he did not make his team suffer while losing and keep the team afloat until the baron loss (whic was the reason they lost )with his split pushs and stuff fnc was constantly forced to use resources on bb
Meh tsm threw with letting fnatic get baron only reason fnatic got going was tied in gold and even everywhere bef0re that
@@abcdklabcdkl6583 Exactly, I swear most people commenting are absent minded on how the game works.
Fern Ayoo i agree it was a done deal after baron but in most cases the tsm would be behind gold cuz top would be stomped in voli v camile
Thanks man, idk why but you are faster than lolesports with the upload :)
I try hard :)
Selfmade put so much pressure on the map
Also hylli
@@JnrnzburnkUQq the vision control from hilly and the mindgame from selfmade won the macro
i dont understand the thresh ban from TSM
that coulda ban eve or voli
they lost game in pick and ban
all lanes lost except mid
I love how selfmade ulted the nexus at the end just for fun
What a beautiful gameplay from fnatic
Selfmade will always choose carry junglers, Evelynn is just so good in his hands. But she's not the only good pick of his. I'm more worried about Nemesis .
@Git Gud he was nida main back in the day if im right
Mark Auf der Haar he started out as a nidalee onetrick
@@anthonykim4479 during l9 no? Or be4
naaa, let selfmade pick carry champs in thr jgl and let nemesis get the seatback with flex pick, nemesis can play anything if he want to pick flex mid because thats the meta right now
@@markaufderhaar4293 I think it was mentioned on an interview that when he got scouted originally (so still challenger) he was a nidalee one trick* (he played other things but his games were predominantly nidalee)
Selfmade really controlled the map throughout the whole game
I think TL has more of a chance of getting passed Suning and Machi than TSM does getting out of fourth place in group C.
I see you didnt mention G2
I guess u knw the result KEKW
no
TL lost to machi, nice NA thinks
Bwipo seems like a nice guy
Closer than expected tbh
is tsm really this bad? like chilling taking dragon while base is open with inhi down kekw
yes, they are!
Tsm only messed up due to having to make guesses with lack of vision. When they were wrong, they lost a lot, such as being in the wrong position for that last dragon fight - half the team was hanging back expecting something to happen, but it didn't so all it accomplished was letting FNC take drag only contested 5 v 2
WHERE IS THE NEW BWIPO GIF?
It doesn't matter that you gave Bjerg the Syndra why in god's name would you ever let Lucian and Evelyn get through???
these teams need to understand unless Nid gets fed early and keeps up the pressure you lose
I wonder how the new season 11 items will change the game for the pro players
Bwipo looks like his playback speed is x2 LMAO
Why not ban selfmade's Eve and Nemesis' Lucian?
Good question, we all know how good they are with those champs
@@fernandoroca5457 right? Eve is already oppressive enough but when you have Selfmade's Eve its a nightmare
not to hate, but nemesis almost nothing done in that game lol, it was all bwipo n selfmade at my sight
@@jhonny8421 that is true for this game but the question remains. Why even give him the chance to pop off? We saw how rough he looks on other champs and we saw some stability when he ran Lucian so why would you allow him a comfort pick?
@NA lives rent free in EU i mean at least we are able of having games against them... Like good luck getting out of groups JAJAJAJAJ
NOT GOOD ENOUGH!
FNC need to finish with teams like that in less than 30 min if they want to accomplish anything in worlds.
Props to tsm though. They overachieved heavily losing in 34.
LOL
At this point EU should just root for G2 the rest of the lec still has a lot to improve
@@Jdgamer17PvP Are you brain damaged or something? Didn't you just watch your number 1 team get styled on by FNC?
@@Honking_Goose Im from Latin America LOL and I think you meant "IS your brain damaged" If it wasnt obvious yet FNC is good but G2 is the real deal for Europe, just facts.
I remember when Bjergson said GG if they ban eve in the group draws
Looks like DL going to get knockout of groups again 😂
Beard bwipo!!!
Jeremy Dole love his fking beard
He looks so mexican
Bwipo acts like he has downs lmao
It’s probably pubs glued to his chin
Kevin Strauss just like u:)))
Did you know SPICA is mechanical fuel injection system implemented in Alfa Romeo Montreal?
REKKLES LOSE WEIGHT?
Selfmade is feeling like a rap god rap god
after seeing earlier games today. I bet they will getting a hard time toe to toe with the lpl, lck teams. I mean look how koreans teams won today with chinese teams while these chinese team was playing good as well.
It is DWG who are predicted finals so its hard to gauge
Yea the gap is big again..
It’s still hard to say, Besides fly and rouge the western teams get to kinda avoid the best of the LPL and LCK... would probably have to wait until knockouts before we can really comment on the gap.
@@Swampert919 Honestly, it seems like DWG is the gap. Take them out and it becomes a much more even worlds event. Unless a massive upset happens I see them winning worlds with how they play this year. I want other teams to win though, but DWG is playing in a different league.
13radley I true but this is still Bo1s, they aren’t always the best for determining who is the best (can DWG maintain that momentum and adapt throughout a Bo5 vs other international teams or is this a one off, for instance)... not to mention we’ve seen them vs a second seed team so we’ve got no idea how they stack up to TES or G2.
It’s certainly a good start for Korea, let’s see if they can keep this up and what the other regions have in store for them before we render judgement (or see if JDG can bounce back).
Looking back at this game, if TSM play Lillia instead of Nidalee, they likely win. Really awkward for their comp, even given the synergy with Camille
Don't get surprised in jng lvl 1 and don't leash the dragon if you're not going to contest it and then be late to baron.
Are we getting out of groups this year? NAh
no c9 no NA in knock out
FNC isnt getting out either lol
zieg feld as much as I love the guy FNC isn’t going anywhere with bwipo
Is TSM NA's first seed?
yep.
imagine even TSM can be a region first seed, jesus christ
41:11 Wait, since when is MagiFelix on the main team o-O
Already since the mid of summer split, if I’m not wrong
@@NightWalkStudios I watched the two new episodes from LiA, when Dan was on the team to help out, he was present but I haven't seen him at all; was just surprised, thx for the answer
why nemesis never seem happy? 😅
camille vs voli 3 times today kinda boring but at least bwipo was the only one who won as voli
Fnatic is looking good. Maybe it's just them being on comfort picks, but they're actually looking like they'll go somewhere.
Fnatic will find a way to mess up. Drakos' verse on the Mediocre Rap Battle described Fnatic to a T. Fnatic was expected to beat TSM, but I can easily see TSM beating them next time.
kekw 2nd best from EU is really goooooood and look at that happy face of bwipo lol worth
i was really annoyed from nemesis in lec finals after 3-0 from g2 but hell yeah fnc back in action les go
I mean it's world's they always show up
He was against caps tbf
@Tim Bernard cause wunder and caps are the best players in Europe atm
what did nemesis do this game except lose a winning matchup
@@chrischinn7245 You mean playing the first 5 minutes of lane without flash?
How often these guys keep watching the map around the 24:00 video mark is actually insane. It’s almost like they are spending 50% of the time watching the map through all of their motions
GG to Fnatic. They got their comfort mid/jungle and ran with it.
So did tsm....
@@flamemano tsm RAN it down instead
can't lie fnatic played super clean in the macro
No, it wasnt. The second baron was bad. They allowed Spica to get into the pit. It was a really shitty and risky call that could have cost them the game.
@Git Gud she had an execute on q
@Fern Ayoo Which is absurdly lower than Eve’s R
@@iwantlee9510 look i found a NA fan that thinks a nida can outsmite an eve thats 3 level higher
@@JnrnzburnkUQq 😂😂 they can't understand, fnatic was better
Love how happy bwipo is
Let's see how the G2 hype turns out, but so far it looks like the gap difference is closing between wildcard regions, LCS and LEC. But not between those regions and LPL, LCK.
So you're telling me that lgd from LPL actually played clean in the play ins versus wildcard teams?
Tsm at worlds is a huge meme at this point. This is the #1 seed from na guys.... losing to a damn #2.. I think thats the first team in the tourney to do that so far.
Yeah they should give 2 seeds to Na and 3 to Taiwan
So That was NA 1st Seed ! RIP for TL vs G2 +18
TL is better compared to TSM. TSM just got lucky with 2 really close 3-2 games. I expect TL to be the only NA team to do decent. I did not watch Suning that much so not sure how they will do against them tho.
@@boatengineer6275 No, they did not get lucky, they won that through mid diff. Bjergsen controlled the lane, and the other two teams, Liquid and FlyQuest, both played entirely different from what they usually would play.
Yeah TSM is dogshit
@@SirNikurasu TL lost to tsm because they tried to be cute an try shit they never played
@@boatengineer6275 tsm is like couple of other players out there (AHEM MAD LIONS). they got insane luck despite stupid plays...
+ NA < *. being seed 1 na means nothing
DL almost flame horizoned first game at worlds - never change NA
bruh i can even recognize Bjerg without Bread.
Just here to see who’s better NA or EU 😂
TSM´s biggest weakness comes back to haunt them...Giving away free barons when they have the match under controll/not losing by a huge margin...They had a much better draft, they just simply coudnt find the picks with syndra and camille, and as soon as Fnatic got the baron it was over...
they had a decent draft but giving selfmade evelyn was a huge mistake. why ban thresh over evelyn? not the best draft. but i agree with your other points
TSM biggest weakness is ban/pick phase how they not banning lucian/evelynn vs fnatic??
NA League Normie detected ....FNC got what they wanted .. Bwipo on a self sufficient weakside toplaner ..Selfmade on a jungle carry ..Nemesis on a farming mid ..Rekkles on utility adc and Hyllisang on engage champion ... if ur telling me that TSM had draft advantage ur fckin delusional ..
@@swtorrogaming8384 exactly.
EU macro is just way better then NA macro
Did you know that there are still people who believe TSM could take world
that is an awful attempt at writing in english... however, TSM put up a good fight this game, it was highly competitive
It was a close game and please make sure your brain is turned on next time you comment something.
@@disabledhorse6030 I think you should turn your brain on aswell. Imagine calling a game close when one team got completely outmacroed the entire time. Delusional Na fans kekW
Lol “stilling” “can take” you just played yourself truly expressing the nature of an Eu fan.
I’m from NA, and who cares how he types lmao? TSM GOT CLAPPED
LOL. I feel bad for anyone who watched the tsm video to get you “hyped” for worlds. Then watched this... NA is a let down every single year.
Not too upset with what I saw, tsm actually hung in there up until late game.
Yeah, they fell asleep for the baron which was discouraging, but other than that....I was happy with what I saw. I did want prio on the Lucian in draft....and once they locked in camile I wanted to see the Zilean for the combo. In hindsight, zilean would have helped vs eve too.
@@christianmayonove6914 zilean only works in NA mate
@@arneh.180 Isn't that the point of worlds? Each region brings their unique styles together?
Christian Mayonove agreed and disagreed, I don’t think champs were just the problem, I think overall they’re really aggressive and willing to fight anywhere and their mechanics seem to match gen and fnc , but it seems they have no idea what to do on the map sometimes, even their more recent game, they got kills and did nothing after. Which I’m not a pro so I’m not judging nor do I understand all circumstances by any means, but just seeing outside looking in, it looks like they’re a little lost after getting some kills on the map, idk.
Epicc
typical NA TSM worlds.... "TSM has the best mid and adc in NA..." neither perform on the world stage. Never believe in this team when worlds come around. smh
when has doublelift ever performed lol. he was weak and passive all of summer and spring.
They forgot that they faced against the best western adc of all time: Rekkles :)
drafts not the best, but they really fucked up in letting them sneak the baron
I wanted to say it was a close game but.. Bwipo was inting. It wasn't that obvious because of how TSM performed.
TSM was just too indecisive.
Imagine expecting any NA team to not get completely shat on this year. NA as a region this year is ESPECIALLY bad. Like it's insane how bad they are. They don't even deserve to be a 3 seed region. In fact they should have just taken away 2 of the seeds to give one each to LCK and LPL so we might actually be able to see some competitive games.
why are they making DL plat Senna lol put him on a champ he can actually snowball off
I mean, at least it wasn’t a stomp, so I believe in TSM getting better over tourney (but historically they do the opposite lol)
Why no one pick other sup like sona . Raka . Janna . Lux. Morg . ...
Lux is a shit support
32:25 right there hyllisang died so tsm can't reach rekkles. That was a smart decision since he's already 1/2 so he won't give the same gold as a deathless jhin which also benefits way more from a baron buff than a rakan, I love how people still try to force a dumb narrative thwt hylli is a shit support or something like that lol
Hyli mostly dies because of this plays or trying to do it
Thats how he plays the game, he always dies for his team and thats why he gets flamed so much, because he has to soak up all the mistakes others fnc members make
Lmao no. Hyllisang died because he failed his rakan so he didn't succeed in getting away from the baron pit, so as a result, Rekkles stood still for a couple seconds in order for Hyllisang to Rakan e towards him to get ous safely. BB didn't even see jhin, he was going for the rakan who dashed their, there wasn't even any vision, and even if there was vision, Rekkles only risked his life because he had to stay behind to let Hyllisang get out. I like hyllisang, but there's a reason he's famously known as a 50/50 player and has mistakes which makes him int.
As a C9 fan, it fills me with so much joy to see TSM lose. Thank you Fnatic. ❤
that's sad. seek help
Lol C9 isn’t at worlds
@@Chinesekage that doesn't hurt me the way you hoped it would lmao
GG good game was fun to watch
No idea why TSM chose Alistar sup against a Rakan. Ali does nothing to Rakan engage and much less reliable. Even in team fights, Alistar can't do anything. TSM's comp can't secure control over areas and no reliable engage.
DL with the eve cosplay.
Yes, because a senna was going to really going to do something vs that comp. She has nothing to stand behind and nothing to save her considering alistar needs to be up front. Just a bad draft.
@@blazeray1000 Tsm comp outscales fnatics, they couldve won after 4 items, but they lost everythings after that sneaky baron from fnc.
Give Eve and Lucian.... And Bio go ahead and run it down twice pre 5
bb with that crazy outplay. Nice
Nice another year team double lift choke at worlds, Prove me wrong Bjergsen!!!!
Wtf where is phreak and azel or Kobe
Phreak and Kobe cast the first 3 games today
a while back, FNC wouldve crushed em. These days FNC vs TSM is a coin toss...
Im glad FNC won cause its my fav team, but this was way too close.
When you have to watch the VOD here instead of league's own fucking website because the only option on their's is SPANISH!?!!
I see biofrost is checking his paypal as we speak
The true MVP of this match was Bwipo's moustache.
37:03 can someone eli5?
I would love to know how many of these Selfmade "fans" were the ones who wanted him out of the team and were trashtalking him when he had some bad games ....
He was the best performer even when team was struggling... He should not have many haters
@@Glauaiv its the same for hyli or anybody else on the team... if u are a fan, u are a fan even when the team sucks .... when u are just there when they win u are not a fan ...
tsm just hold so long because of bb.. 1vs2 outplay, sidelane push and good counter against rakan.. he did 1 mistake and it was the game but it doesn't mean that he was the bad link. in the team it's the opposite.. he was the ONLY MEMBER who could compete against them... the rest of the members were just soo bad especially doublelift bio and bjerg.. spica just get outclassed
bjerg looked ok. Im a fnc fan but Bjerg still looked ok, I think TSM should play around him more tbh. Spica and Biofrost looked awful and Doublelift couldnt play the game because of Selfmade's Evelynn.
FreeSM
12:01 you can't help but love bwipo
I know right, everyone if so focused, which is not bad right, but then there is Bwipo having constantly a smile on his face, it's just enjoyable to watch him
i can
@@aracuscesar :(
34:15
"Goodbye Doublelift"...
No, Goodbye TSM.
Can Bjergsen smash everyone with his Zilean again?
Bwipo looking like he won the championship lmao
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