A lot of structural engineers are starting to move away from recommending wet setting and recommendind drilling and using 2-part epoxy with threaded bolts (similar to Tapcons)
My contractor accomplishes the same thing with a piece of 1 by nailed to the form and the anchor bolt set at the correct height and distance from the side. It is fast, easy and accurate and the building inspectors do not have a problem with it. Wet setting is prone to error both in placement and orientation (height of bolt, distance from the edge, whether or not it is true)..
Anchor bolt should be installed in the middle third of the foundation grade beam. For a 12 inches wide beam the anchor should be 6 inches away from the form.
Yeah, as a newbie I really wish everyone would explain the jargon. I infer that "wet-setting" means that the bolt is shoved into the concrete after we pour the concrete but before it sets.
Ive seen hundreds/thousands of wet-set bolts. Never seen any of the problems you've shown. Only way to see such problems is setting after concrete starts to set. One of the last bolts looked like a straight bolt dropped on a hole drilled afterwards. As for this system, way too many pieces. Grey color is a ridiculous choice for the locking piece - lose that in a heartbeat. Perhaps if there were a tether of some sort to prevent losing the pieces.
@@brendoncullinan5781 Nope. I don't have any issues with women who know their shit in any specific field, but she isn't one of them. She was just hired to read a script.
back in the day in residential work when pump trucks either weren't available, or the builder didn't budget we would sometimes have to "loosen" it up to get it around to the back wall. we used to rip up the cardboard tie box to get the bolts to float overnight. after the framers put the sill on, they would mash over the bolt instead of using the nuts and washers to save time. I haven't heard or seen any of those houses go anywhere. for that matter, houses built in the 1800's are still on their stone foundations with no anchor bolts.
I have alittle unique experience to add. My town had a tornado in 2023. There was 1 home that wasn't properly anchored next to one that was. Both had major roof damage but the home without good anchoring shifted on its foundation and was a total loss. My home was a total loss (direct hit) and i prefer that over trying to rebuild half and repair water damage but just a data point
I live in one of those houses. Brick piers underneath. She’s solid as can be. Two story. Beams over every door and window. Beam x braces cut into every wall bisecting the studs.
Somehow that reminds me of hurricane Hugo I think it was in 89.... My understanding was the town of Charelston, SC got hit pretty hard while some of the older structures had bolts positioned horizontally through the structures and large washers on the exteriors they held up well..... Having traveled through Charleston year's later I noticed the garbage can lid size cast iron washers on some of those structures..... Guess Hugo wasn't their first bout with hurricanes.... And sorry to hear of your Tornado Loss.....
@@markbouldin6513 South Carolinian here. Yes. That and the direct hit was north of Charleston just a touch. Hard to argue against the old construction in Charleston though. Been there a long time , through many many storms.
I don't know if the product is a contributor (advertiser) to the program/channel but, while I do agree he anchor bolts must not be set on wet concrete, the plasticky product is unnecessary and not the best tool. Just create a template with a plywood. Set the anchor bolts with washer and and nuts above and below the wood template. You can also tie the anchor bolts to the center of the rebar cage or horizontal rebar. When set this way is rigidly secured, and while pouring concrete a vibrator can be used so there are no air gap or honeycomb in the concrete.
I design reinforcing systems for building slabs. I use at thread tube welded to the metal frame that accepts any threaded bolt or rod. The end of the tube is at floor level, and it aids the concrete contractor to level the floor to that point. They can even use a helicopter to level the floor, all the way to the edge.
Every example of a j or L bolt on here was improperly installed. You could build a jig that does the same thing as this product with scrap lumber............
Either use a plywood jig or tie them into rebar and lay them out dead nuts before you pour. Pesonally, i run 3/4 wedge anchors, 9in deep and use 2 part epoxy. Way easier and the concrete will fail before the epoxy does plus you have a wedge at the bottom.
Ive put in more than a few anchors bolt carefully and protected by plywood squares aswhell as misting , ive never seen the issues you showed, i do like the holding gizmoes however.
I have never witnessed a problem like this. Please show me a situation where the j-bolt came free and the house moved lol. Biggest problem ive seen is the bolts are stripped and that still caused no real problem...
Pre setting the anchor bolts prevents you from getting a good finish on the top of the wall. You'll have air leakage pouring out of your building at each A-bolt location. We are taught to carefully place the bolts into the wet concrete but not to wiggle them up and down, rather tap the forms to consolidate the concrete around the bolt.
I mean, don’t get me wrong. It’s a good idea but you think Contractor today’s day going to use that they try to do things as cheaper as possible and faster so they can go to the next field😮
We hand set them after the pour. In some cases we use threaded rod double nutted with a spreader bar. Never had a problem. If worrying anchors will pull out move to 5000 pound concrete.
After wet setting anchor bolts for 42 years I've never had an issue. It is easy to get them secure without and divits in the surface.. I build on mountains a lot and we step our foundations so our system would take too long to set up Miss Florida needs to show her credentials in engineering
Never set anchors in my life however I can certainly see where unskilled workers who only care about a paycheck can always find a way to do a job half assed . And yes miss Florida should show a little more . LoL 😂
@mhughes1160 I've been doing construction for 40 years. Never had any problems with anchor bolts. Just about any one can do it. And you think these things are fool proof?
The video is just a sales pitch for some crappy 3d printed kickstarter product that’s designed to solve a problem that doesn’t exist. Saved you 9 minutes.
Agree that setting first looks better. different twist is 1:00 bolt is not set in center, too close to edge and what ive seen just in this video, crew is quite ignorant, may have even kicked it after install. Maybe we should use 2x6s instead of 2x4s or make foundation larger and stick out into dirt. Our Govt. and its great diversity / foreign competition / allowing more companies to leave America than any other country would ever do ( except maybe Rome or England ) in History has lowered us to near insanity already.
horseshit, even with wet set bolts a tornado will pull the studs from the bottom plate and leave the plate on the foundation. And i prefer epoxy and/or wedge anchors.
Uuuuuuu - long ago and far away add the Jbolt and secure with a scrap of 2x4 to the form after the pour and then a light hit the area with the concrete vibrator… it was before epoxy was available/cost effective.
No company with a lick of integrity calls out a competitor by name and shames them for using a method they don't agree with. Quite childish in fact. I'd never buy a product from someone like that.
@ronblack7870 true but my point was that it takes time to measure out drill holes for pre-set bolts which probably is the same as the time it takes to drill and set bolts after concrete so imo all these jigs and contraptions to pre-set the bolts are not worth it. Also nobody is mentioning how you can't float every inch of the concrete with these plastics jigs in the way
Typical "let's find an itch to scratch for you" and then offer you a product to fix the problem we just created. No wonder 25% of your viewers don't like the video.
This product is such a waste of time and money. You can wire tie them to the rebar in the wall or flux core / stick weld them or simply use 1" to 2" twigs of lumber to lay across the form.
Sales pitch code allows wet setting , these guys should have used a real product not a 3d printed version. The blog link is gone so I bet they went under. I mean they are competing with a cut to width stick (metal or wood) with a hole in it. Run the steel through the hole push down line up edges and position is set and so is depth.
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Yes but its not the ABS its the Anchor Mate the ABS is for embedding into the concrete holding the longer anchor bolts stable. The Anchor Mates are for the bolts as well, but why, it all depends on how the engineer or municipality wants to see the bolts set. Personally I would absolutely use the combo of the Anchor Mate and the ABS for the long hold down bolts , but if I can wet set the "L" bolts why not. The bolt isn't even tightened down much there are just placed to stop movement. Mudsills are not supposed to have they wood fiber cut by the bolts being cranked down. I saw A CZcams guy place the bolts into the Mudsill and wet set both the mudsill and the bolts at the same time. fun stuff. -MG
Check the website, call them, they haven't gone under. They have real products, the prototypes were 3d printed so what's wrong with that???????????? And because you can re-use them it saves you money and time. And what's your method to hold the anchor bolt when the concrete is not pored to the top?
@@meshedgears2794 Call any structural engineer and ask them if it's OK to wet set when you no longer have to with the ABS system that the video talks about. If you can avoid wet setting avoid it. This video shows a way to avoid wet setting.
so stupid any body thats ever been on a job site knows that stuff will get kicked , stomped on , broken concrete workers are in and out dont care about ur bolts. The time that takes to do is not going to happen on a job site. Plywood jig and or tie to reebar.
Well, after watching, just a bit of your video, here, it’s unwatchable, for tradesmen, who been in the business for 50 years I must be just drooling into a cup. I have never ever ever had a foundation crack on me around an anchor bolt. I couldn’t even count the number of anchor bolts thousands I’ve never seen a failure never. i’m guessing it’s either poorly mixed concrete or your mixes to dry or they’re waiting too long for the wet set, your premises is complete nonsense it’s more about the mud and the skill of the worker.
If you think it's bad wet-setting a J-bolt, try putting it in there after it cures.
Lol, this cracked me up.
We always tie them in to the rebar before we pour, or we drill out the concrete and set them in epoxy after the concrete has set.
A lot of structural engineers are starting to move away from recommending wet setting and recommendind drilling and using 2-part epoxy with threaded bolts (similar to Tapcons)
So what does Ms Florida have to do with this?
My contractor accomplishes the same thing with a piece of 1 by nailed to the form and the anchor bolt set at the correct height and distance from the side. It is fast, easy and accurate and the building inspectors do not have a problem with it. Wet setting is prone to error both in placement and orientation (height of bolt, distance from the edge, whether or not it is true)..
why only 2 inches away from the forms? should have different sizes , 2,3, 4 ,5 ,6 to get them in the middle of walls.
Anchor bolt should be installed in the middle third of the foundation grade beam. For a 12 inches wide beam the anchor should be 6 inches away from the form.
I've wet set for 40 years......sure beats dry setting.....
The building code say that the anchor bolt must "In Place" before pouring concrete. This means wet setting is not allowed.
Yeah, as a newbie I really wish everyone would explain the jargon. I infer that "wet-setting" means that the bolt is shoved into the concrete after we pour the concrete but before it sets.
Ive seen hundreds/thousands of wet-set bolts. Never seen any of the problems you've shown. Only way to see such problems is setting after concrete starts to set. One of the last bolts looked like a straight bolt dropped on a hole drilled afterwards.
As for this system, way too many pieces. Grey color is a ridiculous choice for the locking piece - lose that in a heartbeat. Perhaps if there were a tether of some sort to prevent losing the pieces.
Hi, I’m a beauty pageant winner and here is my opinion on construction.
I just wanted to know her thoughts on how to achieve peace in the Middle East.
Hey, but you kept watching, hoping she'd again grace us with her presence?
@@brendoncullinan5781 Nope. I don't have any issues with women who know their shit in any specific field, but she isn't one of them. She was just hired to read a script.
@@blaster-zy7xx Yeah, I don't think she knows what epoxy to use when anchoring to an existing foundation. That who-er.
back in the day in residential work when pump trucks either weren't available, or the builder didn't budget we would sometimes have to "loosen" it up to get it around to the back wall. we used to rip up the cardboard tie box to get the bolts to float overnight. after the framers put the sill on, they would mash over the bolt instead of using the nuts and washers to save time. I haven't heard or seen any of those houses go anywhere. for that matter, houses built in the 1800's are still on their stone foundations with no anchor bolts.
I have alittle unique experience to add. My town had a tornado in 2023. There was 1 home that wasn't properly anchored next to one that was. Both had major roof damage but the home without good anchoring shifted on its foundation and was a total loss.
My home was a total loss (direct hit) and i prefer that over trying to rebuild half and repair water damage but just a data point
This is just an excuse to sell something new. Some things never change!
I live in one of those houses. Brick piers underneath. She’s solid as can be. Two story. Beams over every door and window. Beam x braces cut into every wall bisecting the studs.
Somehow that reminds me of hurricane Hugo I think it was in 89.... My understanding was the town of Charelston, SC got hit pretty hard while some of the older structures had bolts positioned horizontally through the structures and large washers on the exteriors they held up well..... Having traveled through Charleston year's later I noticed the garbage can lid size cast iron washers on some of those structures..... Guess Hugo wasn't their first bout with hurricanes....
And sorry to hear of your Tornado Loss.....
@@markbouldin6513 South Carolinian here. Yes. That and the direct hit was north of Charleston just a touch. Hard to argue against the old construction in Charleston though. Been there a long time , through many many storms.
I don't know if the product is a contributor (advertiser) to the program/channel but, while I do agree he anchor bolts must not be set on wet concrete, the plasticky product is unnecessary and not the best tool.
Just create a template with a plywood. Set the anchor bolts with washer and and nuts above and below the wood template.
You can also tie the anchor bolts to the center of the rebar cage or horizontal rebar.
When set this way is rigidly secured, and while pouring concrete a vibrator can be used so there are no air gap or honeycomb in the concrete.
I design reinforcing systems for building slabs. I use at thread tube welded to the metal frame that accepts any threaded bolt or rod. The end of the tube is at floor level, and it aids the concrete contractor to level the floor to that point. They can even use a helicopter to level the floor, all the way to the edge.
Every example of a j or L bolt on here was improperly installed. You could build a jig that does the same thing as this product with scrap lumber............
Either use a plywood jig or tie them into rebar and lay them out dead nuts before you pour. Pesonally, i run 3/4 wedge anchors, 9in deep and use 2 part epoxy. Way easier and the concrete will fail before the epoxy does plus you have a wedge at the bottom.
Miss Florida needs to stick with what she knows... (if anything)
That's Rachael Todd Miss Florida 2009 to you buddy.
A solution in search of a problem.
I wonder how many of these get broken in a typical pour
Surely you can get over this problem by touching either the bolt or surrounding concrete with a poker before the concrete is set?
Ive put in more than a few anchors bolt carefully and protected by plywood squares aswhell as misting , ive never seen the issues you showed, i do like the holding gizmoes however.
I have never witnessed a problem like this. Please show me a situation where the j-bolt came free and the house moved lol. Biggest problem ive seen is the bolts are stripped and that still caused no real problem...
Pre setting the anchor bolts prevents you from getting a good finish on the top of the wall. You'll have air leakage pouring out of your building at each A-bolt location. We are taught to carefully place the bolts into the wet concrete but not to wiggle them up and down, rather tap the forms to consolidate the concrete around the bolt.
What is more important? The finish or the strength?
Why aren't bolts coated when going into wet cement?
Isn't it customary to vibrate the concrete afterward?
Commercial jobs it's usually right in the specifications that wet setting is not permitted but those bolts hold a building together.
If you're getting air pockets, that means you're plunging the J bolts straight down in the wet concrete, and not "hooking" it in.
I mean, don’t get me wrong. It’s a good idea but you think Contractor today’s day going to use that they try to do things as cheaper as possible and faster so they can go to the next field😮
kewl muzak it added so much to the video
totally fascinating - I was looking at the crooked anchor bolts at my friend's site - wondering what was going on. haha
It’s really not that big of a deal. As long as it’s not a lot. A lil will not matter. It will still fasten tight
@@fbarr8540 It is a big deal, find one structural engineer who is worth their salt and they frown on wet setting.
@@SunnyDaysRFun I agree but I doubt you will ever get one perfectly set on center. A hair off won’t matter
I wet set them for years in the 1990s in NV
We hand set them after the pour. In some cases we use threaded rod double nutted with a spreader bar. Never had a problem. If worrying anchors will pull out move to 5000 pound concrete.
After wet setting anchor bolts for 42 years I've never had an issue. It is easy to get them secure without and divits in the surface.. I build on mountains a lot and we step our foundations so our system would take too long to set up
Miss Florida needs to show her credentials in engineering
Never set anchors in my life however
I can certainly see where unskilled workers
who only care about a paycheck can always find a way
to do a job half assed .
And yes miss Florida should show a little more . LoL 😂
@mhughes1160 I've been doing construction for 40 years. Never had any problems with anchor bolts. Just about any one can do it. And you think these things are fool proof?
From what it sounds like, wet setting isn't an issue that comes up right away, it develops over several years and weakens the overall structure.
@@Jedi2155 How?
@@Jedi2155 I've remodeled houses 40 years old and never seen any issues. Someone's trying to sell something.
replaced something operator dependent with something somewhat less operator dependent but at a significant cost premium...
Wow who set on this guys plum pudding... sounds like an engineer with an ego problem...
The video is just a sales pitch for some crappy 3d printed kickstarter product that’s designed to solve a problem that doesn’t exist. Saved you 9 minutes.
I would be more concerned about the slump of the concrete (pee soup in this case) than the anchor bolt setting..
Agree that setting first looks better. different twist is 1:00 bolt is not set in center, too close to edge and what ive seen just in this video, crew is quite ignorant, may have even kicked it after install. Maybe we should use 2x6s instead of 2x4s or make foundation larger and stick out into dirt. Our Govt. and its great diversity / foreign competition / allowing more companies to leave America than any other country would ever do ( except maybe Rome or England ) in History has lowered us to near insanity already.
horseshit, even with wet set bolts a tornado will pull the studs from the bottom plate and leave the plate on the foundation. And i prefer epoxy and/or wedge anchors.
I would pay top dollar over other builders if they would use some 3d printed stuff it looks like a 9 year old made.
Out of curiosity, I wonder how the Amish do it?.....
Man why is this video from 3 years ago suddenly popping up I dont do concrete even
Uuuuuuu - long ago and far away add the Jbolt and secure with a scrap of 2x4 to the form after the pour and then a light hit the area with the concrete vibrator… it was before epoxy was available/cost effective.
They look like Lego made them.
Her structural integrity is amazing
one would have to do a thorough examination to verify
just bolt the J-bolt to the sill plate! a lot cheaper and faster overall!
Are you saying with a bracket screwed into block ?
If you can't properly wet set an anchor you need to find another occupation!
Thought there was a reason we drilled them and then tightened to speck 👍
No company with a lick of integrity calls out a competitor by name and shames them for using a method they don't agree with. Quite childish in fact. I'd never buy a product from someone like that.
What if it's Mrs. Florida (2009), slinging the mud, though?
@@evanhughes3027I was really hoping for more Florida Woman antics in this video.😢
I have built about 20 dog houses, every time I use an anchor bone, the dogs go crazy.
That's why it's nice to have a 3D printer handy.
Hey dude blogspot link is busted.
This is simply an advertisement for one of many products for setting anchor bolts. The model, btw, didn't age well.
Ahh, engineers. Thinking about numbers, never actually doing or thinking through the process
This shit is only suited to the formwork as shown in this video.
More waste to make the plastic which will eventually go to the land fill. This is a solution for a problem that doesn’t exist.
I never use anchor bolts. I’ve been gluing the sill plate down with Elmers glue and haven’t had a single issue in 19 years.
🤣
No need to do this. Just drill when the concrete has set and use expanding bolts with adhesive.
Drilling takes 3x longer. Just wet set them with a jig like every other competent contractor.
That arguable...measuring out where to drill holes so you can set your plate onto a bunch of crooked bolts takes a time.
@@LaFox23 As long as you don't wet-set where a stud is supposed to go.
@@ericbstudios9807 you put a nut on the bolt and use a hammer to straighten the studs sticking up. they are usually only a bit off in the first place.
@ronblack7870 true but my point was that it takes time to measure out drill holes for pre-set bolts which probably is the same as the time it takes to drill and set bolts after concrete so imo all these jigs and contraptions to pre-set the bolts are not worth it. Also nobody is mentioning how you can't float every inch of the concrete with these plastics jigs in the way
Typical "let's find an itch to scratch for you" and then offer you a product to fix the problem we just created. No wonder 25% of your viewers don't like the video.
Set them right in the first place.
Miss Florida is $75 richer for this endorsement.
You should have disclosed this as a sales video. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
This product is such a waste of time and money. You can wire tie them to the rebar in the wall or flux core / stick weld them or simply use 1" to 2" twigs of lumber to lay across the form.
Sales pitch code allows wet setting , these guys should have used a real product not a 3d printed version. The blog link is gone so I bet they went under. I mean they are competing with a cut to width stick (metal or wood) with a hole in it. Run the steel through the hole push down line up edges and position is set and so is depth.
Yes lol. You can just make a simple plywood piece to hold the anchor bolt using the leftover material from the job site.
Simpson sells a plastic anchor bolt stabilizer or ABS
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Yes but its not the ABS its the Anchor Mate the ABS is for embedding into the concrete holding the longer anchor bolts stable. The Anchor Mates are for the bolts as well, but why, it all depends on how the engineer or municipality wants to see the bolts set. Personally I would absolutely use the combo of the Anchor Mate and the ABS for the long hold down bolts , but if I can wet set the "L" bolts why not. The bolt isn't even tightened down much there are just placed to stop movement. Mudsills are not supposed to have they wood fiber cut by the bolts being cranked down. I saw A CZcams guy place the bolts into the Mudsill and wet set both the mudsill and the bolts at the same time. fun stuff.
-MG
Check the website, call them, they haven't gone under. They have real products, the prototypes were 3d printed so what's wrong with that???????????? And because you can re-use them it saves you money and time. And what's your method to hold the anchor bolt when the concrete is not pored to the top?
@@meshedgears2794 Call any structural engineer and ask them if it's OK to wet set when you no longer have to with the ABS system that the video talks about. If you can avoid wet setting avoid it. This video shows a way to avoid wet setting.
Good information!
so stupid any body thats ever been on a job site knows that stuff will get kicked , stomped on , broken concrete workers are in and out dont care about ur bolts. The time that takes to do is not going to happen on a job site. Plywood jig and or tie to reebar.
LOL!! 😂😂😂
Plywood sets are cheaper
Well, after watching, just a bit of your video, here, it’s unwatchable, for tradesmen, who been in the business for 50 years I must be just drooling into a cup. I have never ever ever had a foundation crack on me around an anchor bolt.
I couldn’t even count the number of anchor bolts thousands I’ve never seen a failure never. i’m guessing it’s either poorly mixed concrete or your mixes to dry or they’re waiting too long for the wet set, your premises is complete nonsense it’s more about the mud and the skill of the worker.
Can you say OSHA violation
dang... that sure is some nice leg... I mean lag... Oh never mind.
At least the redhead is hot
she's a health meditation coach
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 how dare you! She's miss Florida, 2009!
What a scam and another stupid idea from somebody trying to get rich off of a very poorly designed system
Note to self: Vibrate the bolts for 10 seconds after wet-setting them.
Where’s Rachel ? 👍💝😍
Rachel Todd...👸👍
im here for the hotpants, amirtie or amirite guyz... nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk
Stupid music really annoying, had to stop video
“heeey! i hve no idea what youre doing but my book says its wrong! “🥸😂😂