What RUINED Sega? - The Fall of an Empire
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- Sega was a multi-million dollar powerhouse in the 1990s. They were a titan of the video game industry and waged war with Nintendo. But in the late 90s, Sega lost the console war. What happened? What caused Sega to fall so far from grace and fail in the world of console gaming?
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I worked at Sega of America from 1993-95 and lived through the rise and fall... fairly accurate depiction of those times. Well done.
Can we have your thoughts on the train wreck that is Hollywood's attempt at a Sonic movie?
Brian Baker what did you think of the 32x?
@@satvrnplayz3669 Everything is telling me that you are not older than 15. ( at least your brain is not older than 15) - Your cringy username, your profile image and your idiotic 9gag comment
Why is people become a interviewer
@@wolzie8075 r/youngepeopleyoutube
So Basically Tom came and invented Sonic and revolutionized the company, and was pushing to buy consoles that would eventually become the PlayStation and the N64. But SEGA Japan was like
"No we're good."
@Bruno your'e being racist
@Sahand Az oh yeah like what they did to ash in sun and moon
@Bruno Don't blame the Japanese. It was the people at Sega of Japan that costed the company big and never recovered.
*Curb your enthusiasm plays*
That’s no good
Sega of America put them on the map and they hated it , Sega of Japan and their pride killed them.
100%
But let's not forget that it was their idea to push the 32x and CD, while Japan was ready to move to the Saturn
hahaha
Sega of America did what? Sega was never popular in the US and the Japanese knew that, also, it was the director of Sega US that failed to supply shops with the Dreamcast which was also coincidentally Microshaft's first foray into console design and guess what, for his utter incompetence he was rewarded with the same job but now working for Microshaft after Sega went under. hmmm
Fuck Bill gates and ignorant 'muricans who bought the Xbotch, 20 years of mediocrity and still MS is able to have an army of Stans... In the US mind you, Europe was Sega territory, they were, as, if not more popular than Nintendo, Xbox sees very little sales over here and in Japan it's a joke. just look back and tell me what ground breaking games did the Xbloop studios came up with? Don't say Halo pls, it's just your nostalgia playing tricks, there were far better fps at the time. I said ground-breaking
@@lordcommandernox9197 sega was popular in the 16 bit era we both know that
@Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah Heck, Sonic 1 on the Genesis came out in Japan 3 days AFTER the American release. So technically, Sonic's debut was in America.
"This led instead to the N64." Okay.
"This led instead to the PS." Ouch.
"This led instead to the XBox." I'm doubled over.
This is resumed on:
*OOF*
*DOUBLE OOF*
*HYPER OOF*
It physically hurt when hearing him say these things. I’ll be honest I don’t own any of those game consoles ( forgive me if I got that wrong ), but what I do know is that they were massive profit hits. That’s why it hurt hearing about the huge opportunity’s SEGA missed out on.
@Iggy Hop Koopa sonic sez
🤣🤣🤣
@@CheeseySavage too true
I can sum up this entire video in 3 words
"that's no good"
classic : )
gamerslayer89 boi yeah
Dont be a fool, racism isnt cool!
dame da ne
Sonic sez
WHY WON'T YOU LEARN! THAT YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES
Because they "Live and Learn" than just learn
Prince Dream Nom Gaming 😂😂😂😂 lmao
Prince Dream Nom Gaming I feel like that's a reference to something, I just don't know what.
Sonic Gamer Sammy classic sonic fan
iLikeMovies It's not. It's a SammyClassicSonicFan reference to his rants about sonic XD
*Sony Used $299*
*It's Super Effective*
*SEGA Fainted!*
*You earned 68% of the Console Market*
Your PlayStation 2 is evolving
*Human used $1*
*Everyone fainted!*
@Maxsteel 42 PS3 fainted! Xbox 360 takes the market
@@tossom3915 Xbox 360 fainted! Your Wii has leveled up to 100M sales.
Playstation nerds... They never learn how to be nice... To others...
3 things
1. Saturn surprised launch
2. Too many add-ons
3. Sega of japan decline to work with Sony
Saturn was going to flop no matter what, but that botched launch never even let them get off the ground.
Nobody knows if Sony was ok for working with Sega actually ...
That’s why my uncle and my other uncle like PlayStation and Nintendo and they don’t care for sega and when I go to my friends house he’s and sega fan but he only plays xbox is it weird for me to like PlayStation and sega
ciredec Gellar true
@@gamble777888
They could've had a chance if the Saturn had the launch titles completed and the Console was cheaper.
Sega lived fast, but died hard.
"Y'know, what can I say? I die hard!"
Just like the company you came from, Sonic. (In a good way- don't take it negatively. ^^')
Here for a fun time not for a long time.
Stupid marketing and saturn kill them
Agreed. But I'm curious as to how many people actually subscribed to the Sega Channel.
Wild Side that a great question but I don’t know
Say what you will about Sega, but you can't deny the awesomeness of their commercials.
Cameron Hart I agree. The fact that SoJ hired Hiroshi Fujioka, a huge celebrity in Japan (huge as in having a minor planet named after him), to be the mascot behind the Saturn is awesome in my book.
I could watch them ALL day.
I hate sega but u are correct they did
Some are, but a lot are just edgy 90s kids pandering with some buzzwords thrown in (“blast processing”).
My favorite was the one on the airplane and the flight attendant says “Coffee? Tea?...SEGA??” Lol. Ah the memories.
I never knew SEGA was originally from Hawaii 😮
Is that your real name (Jarona)?
me too
Blast Ketchup no it’s not
@@jaronafrost7613 I prob was bored that time when i asked, plus it sounded like an anime character name
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Not going to lie, the first time I saw Mario and Sonic in the same game (Super Smash Bros Brawl) blew my mind. I'm a late 80's kid, and up until that point, Sonic and Mario were rivals, enemies. Seeing them cooperate in the same game... well, you can imagine.
This first time I saw Sonic and Mario together in a game I threw up 🤮
When i was a kid we got a Gamecube for Christmas...along with two Sonic games. *For* the Gamecube. Sonic Heroes and a collection of older games.
I didn't know about their rivalry back then but now the irony is too delicious.
@@huntergraham702 There's still rivalry 😮
@@huntergraham702 RIGHT?
Yeah, the game where they fight each other, they were cooperating XD (I mean, that was a dream come true for a kid of the 90's)
I’d like to see you do a video on why you think Warner Bros has failed to keep Looney Tunes relevant today while Disney still keeps Mickey and friends as well known as they were in the past. I’m currently watching Space Jam with my 3 year old and it’s weird to think she has no idea who these characters are since they are never seen anymore!
Underscorer Well now I feel old 😂😂😂
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I thing it all comes down to money. Warner Bros. is a large corporation, yes, but Disney is a fucking empire. They have enough money to constantly advertise their characters, so the kids will always recognize them from the merchandising.
I gotta agree with Don Feik, whatever the case may be, the root cause of the problem has to go back to how much money each corporation has to throw around. And financially speaking, Warner Bros. couldn't catch up to Disney if the latter took a break for 10 years.
I also agree with Don, and I agree with the lost and forgotten. The HUGE reason I believe why a lot of kids do not know the Looney Tunes comes down to what Don discussed, AND I think it comes down to what they’re showing on TV nowadays. Look at the block that Wabbit/The New Looney Tunes is stuck on! With Teen Titans Go dominating everything, they can barely get a bit of screen time in like the other shows! As for Disney, Mickey is a mascot, so they have to use him at least once in a while. (Even though I thought Bugs was supposed to be Warner’s. I guess they really don’t care about him anymore since it seems they’ve gone...out of that for the time being.) By the way, Mickey seems to be making a comeback as of 2013 and onwards! (Seriously, you guys. When has the mouse last had a show since House of Mouse?) Even Donald Duck is doing it this year with Ducktales!...Kind of.
I am a SEGA fan and after seeing this I was depressed
same, I feel for you
Your pfp fits with your comment
Me too That’s why my uncle and my other uncle like PlayStation and Nintendo and they don’t care for sega and when I go to my friends house he’s and sega fan but he only plays xbox is it weird for me to like PlayStation and sega
Rip
Sega
dreamcast had such a good library of games. just no dvd player. a dvd player ended the console wars. ironic
They could have made model 2 or something, but sega of Japan are retarded that they just left the meeting. But now they are making shitty games for 3rd party companies, EVEN NINTENDO. Maybe if they make a console that has all their games, the old ones and the new ones, with some 3rd party games, they could have a comeback.
@@ahmedelged4894 agree, they should make version 2 which upgrade the optical to DVD ROM, and add an USB slot.
On graphic, sega still can compete with others.
But it lack the library especially an J-RPG at that time was a game changer.
Shenmue was great, but no final fantasy was a big thing
Let's face it. Sega was terminally ill well before Dreamcast hit the market.
Soon as Kalinsky left it should have been the biggest red-flag
I think the overlook of broadband, pirated games, and being able to override the system with no physical mod…that really hurt the Dreamcast. A friend that had well off parents handed me a bunch of new games on CDR. Blew my mind at the time. A few months later ATR offered the Stingray and a 1mbps download speed. Everyone was able to get all games, even on release date for free. Many were still playing after it was discontinued. Me and everyone I knew still had Dreamcast as a big system up till 2005 in home. So many games we couldn’t play them all! That was a huge oversight not many talk about. Also I watched movies on mine with CDR early on before PS2.
Dreamcast was awesome because you can play burnt games from all over the world with jus a toothpick trick.
"It all started in 2006"
Uh...no it didn't, it started because Sega released to many add ons for the Genesis and the 32x was released months before the Saturn.
Nino IsEverywhere its a joke a reference to sonic 06 jeez people get it together lol
Nino IsEverywhere nah that's not true it all started when sonic took over as the only series Sega cares about plus I know lots of people hate 06 but that's my favorite game in the whole Sonic series
It's just a fucking Sonic 06 meme why are you people getting butthurt lmao
Nino IsEverywhere Because some of us are annoyed that people still bring up a game that came out over a decade ago.
What ruined Sega?
"...$299"
What ruined them is the dreamcast had no new exclusive games
*$399.9 at launch Saturn in the US!?
Sony
@KidDynamite500 Yeah but wasn't it all non exclusive and people would rather play those games on more "Advertised, familiar consoles"?
@@Nestalgba92023 with that money you can buy a really good chair!
The story of sega is almost like the story of the man who died in a flood. The waters began rising. A family drove by his house and offered him a ride. He said “no, god will save me.” So they left. A while later his yard was flooded. A man in a fishing boat passed by and said “hey get in!” “No no, god will save me” he replied. By now the man was sitting on the roof of his now flooded house. A helicopter flew by and the pilot yelled “hey, get in!” And of course the man declined. He died that day. When he stood before god at the pearly gates he said “God, why didn’t you save me?”
“You idiot” God replied. “I sent help your way three times and three times you refused.”
Lmao
Lol 😂😂😂
Nintendo: um it's not what it looks like.
Sony: oh yeah then what's with all these empty disc cases doing on the ground
Phillips: *trying to sneak out the window*
Nintendo: but I-
Sony: sorry can't hear you I don't listen to harlots.
this is underrated. very good bit.
SEGA: NO. Blame me. It isn’t Nintendo’s fault
@@DanzigFan-vq3zf Sony: yeah you guys refuse me to work with you now im greatest on the markets
@@soulhoney1908 nintendo with switch: well sony you again ?
Sony:can we talk?
can someone tell me what game is at 6:36? I loved that game forgot its name....
GOTTA GO FAST! But real talk, if you were a kid from the 90s, what console company did you grow up with? Nintendo or Sega? What kind of console do you have now-a-days?
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Nintendo for me. First thing I ever got was a Gameboy Colour and Pokemon Yellow
Gotta go DAB
I was born in 1998, but I grew up playing N64 and Gamecube.
I am a kid of the 2000's, but I have a Nintendo 64 console. So bad that the remote is not in good conditions...
Saberspark both. And Atari
That's no good.
ModmamiaMardmamia 3:56
Turbo tastic
Gasp
Sonic sez
Woobin The Scrub o Hi
Preston Pegues lmao
SeGA!
In conclusion, Sega of Japan needs the axe
Tbh the phrase "Genesis does what nintendon't" is such a good line that i'd buy it
It's super cheesy and lame.
SEGA was a bit too arrogant with their success in competing with Nintendo.
That's what led to it's downfall.
SEGA of Japan killed SEGA. They blocked every good business decision SEGA of America had, which would have created a very different gaming industry as we know it.
Bloodsword788 companies die if they try to go iver the competition rather than either coexisting with it or finding the other route.
Imagine a 4 console war..... Oh god, a 3 console war is toxic enough.
Jan Marco Perez Batres With PC, it's already 4.
Paul Barlow Yeah. Sega of Japan was too arrogant.
i think it's super interesting how sonic, the most product of the 90's, has survived, and I'm happy, Sonic is such a charismatic character!!
Hollywood: Hold my film.
@@dubuyajay9964 ehh that wont hurt the franchise too much. I mean the mario movie didnt kill the mario series
@@alfa01spotivo i agree that the Mario Movie didn't kill Mario, but you know: when a bad thing about Mario happens, after some time is already forgotten, but when a bad thing about Sonic happens...oh boy
I mean, Sonic 06 is an example
Sonic is charismatic? He seems like a douche to me
@@blastketchup4953 I don't know what makes you think that, but okay. I just don't know what's giving you that message.
The rise and fall of Sega is always one of the most interesting stories in video game history.
That's because the " Gook Play Station " corporation's are much more cunning, smart and resourceful than the play station corporations in the good ole u.s.a.
"Sega missed out on both the n64 and the playstation."
I hope those japanese executives at sega japan committed sepuku for such a colossal failure....
Harrakuri
u mean 'sudoku'
WHAT! NO!
Sepuku means “suicide” or something else?
Shan Chaudhry yes it means drowning yourself in water
So Sega hired a marketing and business genius to make their company successful. Listened to him and he made them fuckloads of money. Then they stopped listening and slowly fucking died.
Nice
Fixed Fun SEGA could have been both & Arcade Developer, & an Edgy Alternative to Nintendo.
They did listen to him. It was Sega's PARENT COMPANY CSK that kept BLOCKING him and Sega as a whole.
And ultimately ruined the company and screwed everyone over.
Nintendo didn't screw Sega
Sony didn't screw Sega
Sega screwed Sega
Sega of Japan screwed Sega.
+PLC The Legacy-Yeah, you will find too often that the "losers" of the "console wars" are made so because of their own ineptitude and their own stupid decisions. Ie. Microsoft has struggled this entire generation with the XBOX One over stupid decisions they willingly made: announcing that they were going to lock used games and have the XBOX on permanent internet, only to rush to nix those plans when the backlash became way too much. Forced the integration of the Kinect with the XBOX One at first where the XBOX One ran all the way up to at least $500 on release day. Lack of exclusives, botched release day titles, repeatedly cancelled high budget projects for whatever reason and shuttered a catalog of its own internal developers. Microsoft routinely f'd up this generation, so all their turmoil and woes over the situation is entirely THEIR fault.
Likewise, it was probably much the same story with Sega back in the 90s. They missed out on an opportunity to create a console with Nintendo because they create their own-the Saturn and the Dreamcast. However, according to someone here, Sega sued developers trying to create games for their own console because the process was so confusing and Sega never told them how to use it, the developers tried to reverse engineer games on their own to figure it out. Basically, Sega was suing its own developers for DARING. ..to make games for their own console and of course, that fallout had to have been a public embarrassment.
The damage was probably around done with what happened with the Saturn to where it is likely very few companies wanted to work with Sega on their next console, the Dreamcast. From what I can gather, that console dropped like a stone, probably even as early as release, to where it remains a far more obscure console a few people who grew up with genuinely still love it.
And it looks like after the Dreamcast failed and Microsoft dipped its toes in the console market with the first XBOX, Sega finally surrendered and never made a console again. And it seems ever since all the way back when that happened. . .they haven't really done anything of relevance. The Sonic titles were still great. . .until they weren't. . .and Sega refuses to put this series into the peaceful sleep that it deserves. They only have done a few series, some with cult followings (Valkyria Chronicles), and a few random mobile games here and there, but other than that, they operate as a hollow shell of who they used to be and whoever the executives are left are not capable or willing to let anything change about it.
Even Microsoft has.
Scott Gordon completely true statement dude.
Fera Flauna yeah love VC
Trying to stop Nintendo is like trying to scale a 90 degree angle wall without any equipment!
What kill SEGA wasn't Nintendo. What kill SEGA was :
-Playstation
-Sega of Japan.
Nintendo himself wasn't a big problem for SEGA. SEGA was the number one video game industry in 1994.
@@broken75.20 sega killed itself. It started focusing on making sonic more powerful than mario so badly in 2006 that they legit made every single character boring to look at except for sonic.
and the crazy thing is for a brief moment as beautiful and as filleting as the life span of a butterfly the crazy sons of sons of britches did it they hurt the god of video games nintendo and dethroned their king Mario but like how Icarus flew to close to the sun Sega became to ambitious making useless add ones and bad business decisions that led to the Saturn failing without there flagship mascot sonic and it was two late but that didn't stop Sega from going out not with a whimper but with a bang with the return of their speedy blue champion for one last hurray with their sawn song the dream cast before the curtain closed on this legendary company that touched the lives of many toot toot sonic warriors “All things must pass.”
― George Harrison
Well you're kinda right. Nintendo didn't stop. It's just that Sega has managed to slow them down enough to become the video game market king for a while. Nintendo might have always slow down at some points, (for example their market decisions with Mario 3D All Stars), but they never really stopped.
@@phantomblue2798 they never had the intention to stop Nintendo. They had the intention to be the no.1 video game industry. And they succeed at.
The more I hear the story the more I get upset with sega. Sega really had a chance to be the greatest and turned down the greatest deals based on jealousy of one man.
Kalinske?
I love how your expanding your What RUINED? series beyond just television network, it's like a little history lesson but based on popular media
Tl;dr: Japanese division’s ego and stubbornness almost killed an entire company. Damn Nintendo, my man, you dodged a bullet there.
José Farías Two bullets. Imagine...Sega 64 or the Sega Playstation...
Imagine sega going up against Microsoft and Sony AND Nintendo nowadays in the console market
Too many options, lol!!!
Maybe they would had more exclusives active than just Sonic.
they were just 7 months off from competing with the original xbox
But everything changed when PS2 Attacked
In theory they could considering they'd have Sonic as an exclusive, but it's just not going to happen now. The company doesn't have the resources. The only way it could happen is if one of the big 3 starts to fail and they ask SEGA to get on board with a new project, but the chances of that are very slim.
Great Video.
I was the kid on the school bus defending Sega over Nintendo. Now that I'm an adult it's clear what games truly stand the test of time.
Sega lost me with that whole Sega CD, 32x, Saturn fiasco.
Shitty decisions ruined Sega. I always wanted a genesis growing up but got a Super Nintendo instead and I always felt a little left out of a certain fandom because of it. I'm fine with it now because Mario' games have been great over the years and I hope Sonic, in the future, gets a good worthy enough to be on everyone's radar that doesn't involve him being on Super Smash Bros or some type of virtual console. Good video as always, Saber
Sega of America knew what they were doing but Sega of Japan killed there decisions and was the one that made shitty decisions
Sonic Mania
I never wanted a sega device. My childhood was a Nintendo Ds I, and I loved it! I still have it and play it! But yeah from what I heard is that Sega's decisions made it fall. I have a Nintendo Switch and love the console!
At least SEGA of America got a little better
can someone tell me what game is at 6:36? I loved that game forgot its name....
Saberspark? more like.....
SEGAspark
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
Hipster Sonic! Hipster, hipster, Sonic! Hipster Sonic! Sonic Boom!
Sonic says: THAT PUN IS NOOOOOOOO GOOD.
DC failure was truly unique. It had its fans, more than you can say for almost any failure, but they couldn't save it.
Maybe SEGA was too busy focusing on arcades, or really were stretched too thin with that sector, because not even Nintendo had much of an arcade presence. SEGA really should have dedicated themselves more to the home market, and maybe that was their failing. They never truly cared, corporate-wise. Otherwise, they should have merged with Sammy or whatever well before they launched.
Guys I'm watching this in 2019 and I just so happen to watch a Sega Genesis 30th anniversary ad on this video....weird.
it's almost as if the ad led you here in the first place
@@frankiebaker419 ikr
I thought this was going to be a video crapping on 3D Sonic, but it was actually a very well researched video. Thank you for that
The problem with sonic is nostalgia from the 90s. I've encountered this many times, also with mortal kombat. What little good progress comes from innovation is stepped on by the 90s. Its also a problem for comics where the 10% silver age fans call modern comics out and promote their era as better.sonic can work in 3d for example as sonic adventure is proof of this, but the problem is that they never developed this model. Each game often is an independent development and so Sega games can be disconnected as is the case with sonic in 3d.
*T H A T S N O G O O D*
I know! Where's the apostrophe?
The difference between Sega and Nintendo is: Nintendo learns from their mistakes.
Sega made the Sonic games so much worse and didn't work on much else, putting all their attention on Sonic...
Nintendo tried new things. They took criticism that they got from the Wii U and made the Switch from the mistakes they had made. They tried something new for TLOZ and Mario, thus the creation of Breath Of The Wild and Oddyssey. Nintendo tried so many new things and Sega just kind of... let that rot.
She’s should be on the list for most hated game company and hates like blizzard and gearbox software not to mention saga and gearbox work together both saga and gearbox ruin their reputation and now saga is now a shell of its former self
Japanese companies have very odd management structure. There seems to be a culture that revolves around being "yes men". That's definitely prevalent in the US as well but not as much.
It's more like they have an ego and can't put their own ideas on the backburner in order to be more successful. They have a really hard time accepting the ideas of employees under them over their own even if they make more sense.
@@whenisdinner2137 They're more interested in having subordinates than listening to them, even when that other person is right.
-"Hey, if we give you full control, will you join us?"
-"Sure thing, we just gotta refresh your stuff a bit!"
-"eehhh..."
-"What? You said I'd have full control."
-"N-no no, go ahead..."
*it has a massive success*
...
-"So for the next console, I was thinking we could use this processor..."
-"No."
-"But... it's faster.. and.."
-"NO."
*they lose the N64*
...
-"So, for the next console, I thought we could work with Sony and give them a percentage of th-"
-"No."
-"B-but.. they have the experience in.."
-"N O"
*they lose the PS1*
-"you know what f--k you i'm outta here"
WHAT THE FUCK IS A SONIC?!
ah!
Something that would even make Speedwagon afraid...
Nigga you are everywhere
A restaurant.
There's a starman waiting in the sky Ziggy Stardust
I’ll never be over the fact they closed that big, multi-floor arcade in Japan recently. It was so iconic to the area it was in (Kabukicho for those don’t know, the inspiration for Kamurocho in the Yakuza/Like A Dragon series)
Both Sonic and Sega were on speed, but the sad thing is is that they live an awesome, yet short life!
Nintendo will always be better than sega.
Sonic is still alive
@@kaitlynwhalen5961 no
“All things must pass.”
― George Harrison
@@arlokraft3041 I mean kind of, 99% of people will disagree with you though
Welp Sega and Nintendo created their rivals... (Xbox and PlayStation)
yep haha
To be fair Sega kinda die before Xbox enter the scene
you are your own worse enemy as they say
This video was mind blowing, I never would've known that most of the major games today could have been Sega byproducts at one point, well multiple.
can someone tell me what game is at 6:36? I loved that game forgot its name....
@@GeekRaj It's either Final Fantasy one or two.
Sega of Japan: could our pride and insecurities be ruining this company? No. It’s the Americans that are wrong
All the nostalgic commercials here took me straight back to the 90s! Advertising was so weird and out there back then. I love the dude with the septum piercing and the pink tutu; I don't know what he had to do with video games, but I love him.
I know the point, and it's sad, Sega is a company with a lot of potential, but they make a lot of bad decisions, it's annoying to see that Sonic's image is down, it's sad to see that a lot of the new Sonic games are just '' not so bad ''.
I like Sonic, but the decisions of this company sinks him a lot!
Mas'sMinecraftAdventures sadly true. but at least Sonic manioa proves that there is still hope for the Hedgehog
:c
Still hope, but Sega will need to work alot to unsink Sonic
ValdemarCristino Fontenele Andrade perhaps they need to take a break from Sonic and work on reviving other IPs before getting back to him. That or perhaps leave the development of sonic games to Whitehead
Good point
The genesis ! The genesis! The genesis!The genesis!
GENESIS DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T
normal guy
SEGA!!!!!
Michel Pigion fast and with good graphics at the time lol. Just to think, gaming has come a looooooooong way since Atari. I would love to see them try a comeback with revamped HD versions of their games along side the originals.
Except Genesis did what Nintencan
What Nintendo "can" but didn't do.
normal guy Well.. If i would ask my friend of the "Genisis" everyone would say : "What the fuck is that?" If i'd ask about the SNES they would say : "o yea i know that thing."
I loved all my old Sega consoles in fact I still have them all and still play them all regularly
Do you also have the Sega CD and/or 32X add ons?
I NEED to get the game Cube, or the wii that is game cube compatible, I MUST PLAY SANIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE
I still have my dreamcast and I'm still happy with it
"Sega does what Nintendon't" is just first "Fortnite bad, Minecraft good"
?
Yes, Fortnite is bad.
@@BluBerry3 I know What the real point of that stupid game
Keanu chungus wholesome 100 reddit moment 😀i beat up a kid that said minecraft bad 😂and my doggo bit him so i gave him snaccos😉 and we watched pewdiepie together while in elon musk’s cyber truck 😳talking about how superior reddit memers are : “haha emojis bad” 😲i said and keanu reeves came outta nowhere and said “this is wholesome 100, updoot this wholesome boy” 😗so i got alot of updoots and edit: thanks for the gold kind stranger😣. but the kind stranger revealed himself to be baby yoda eating chiccy nuggies😨 and drinking choccy milk😎 so we went to the cinema to see our (communism funny) favorite movies avengers endgame😆 but then thor played fortnite and fortnite bad😡, so then i said “reality is often dissappointing” and then baby yoda replied r/unexpectedthanos and i replied by r/expectedthanos😖 for balance and then danny devito came to pick us up from the cinema😩 and all the insta normies and gay mods stood watching😵 ,as we,superior redditors went home with danny devito to suck on his magnum dong😫 but i said no homo and started sucking,not like those gay mods😮,then the next morning we woke up to MrBeast telling us to plant 69420 million trees😌, me, baby yoda and danny said nice, and then on our way to plant 69420 million trees😊 (nice) we saw a kid doing a tiktok so keanu reeves appeared and said “we have a kid to burn” and i replied “you’re breathtaking”😄 so i said “i need a weapon” and baby yoda gave me an RPG so i blew the kid (DESTRUCTION 100)😎 and posted it on r/memes and r/dankmemes and r/pewdiepiesubmissions and got 1000000000 updoots😘,i’m sure pewds will give me a big pp, then we shat on emoji users😂😂 and started dreaming about girls that will never like me😢 and posted a lie on r/teenagers about how i got a GF after my doggo died by the hands of fortnite players😳 so i exploited his death for updoots😜, but i watched the sunset with the wholesome gang😁 (keanu,danny,Mrbeast, pewds, spongebob,stefan karl , bob ross, steve irwin, baby yoda and other artists that reddit exploits them) [Everyone liked that] WHOLESOME 100 REDDIT 100🤡
@@lumarisreyes9894 Keanu chungus wholesome 100 reddit moment 😀i beat up a kid that said minecraft bad 😂and my doggo bit him so i gave him snaccos😉 and we watched pewdiepie together while in elon musk’s cyber truck 😳talking about how superior reddit memers are : “haha emojis bad” 😲i said and keanu reeves came outta nowhere and said “this is wholesome 100, updoot this wholesome boy” 😗so i got alot of updoots and edit: thanks for the gold kind stranger😣. but the kind stranger revealed himself to be baby yoda eating chiccy nuggies😨 and drinking choccy milk😎 so we went to the cinema to see our (communism funny) favorite movies avengers endgame😆 but then thor played fortnite and fortnite bad😡, so then i said “reality is often dissappointing” and then baby yoda replied r/unexpectedthanos and i replied by r/expectedthanos😖 for balance and then danny devito came to pick us up from the cinema😩 and all the insta normies and gay mods stood watching😵 ,as we,superior redditors went home with danny devito to suck on his magnum dong😫 but i said no homo and started sucking,not like those gay mods😮,then the next morning we woke up to MrBeast telling us to plant 69420 million trees😌, me, baby yoda and danny said nice, and then on our way to plant 69420 million trees😊 (nice) we saw a kid doing a tiktok so keanu reeves appeared and said “we have a kid to burn” and i replied “you’re breathtaking”😄 so i said “i need a weapon” and baby yoda gave me an RPG so i blew the kid (DESTRUCTION 100)😎 and posted it on r/memes and r/dankmemes and r/pewdiepiesubmissions and got 1000000000 updoots😘,i’m sure pewds will give me a big pp, then we shat on emoji users😂😂 and started dreaming about girls that will never like me😢 and posted a lie on r/teenagers about how i got a GF after my doggo died by the hands of fortnite players😳 so i exploited his death for updoots😜, but i watched the sunset with the wholesome gang😁 (keanu,danny,Mrbeast, pewds, spongebob,stefan karl , bob ross, steve irwin, baby yoda and other artists that reddit exploits them) [Everyone liked that] WHOLESOME 100 REDDIT 100🤡
now do "what kind of ruined Nintendo for a while but then it seems to fix itself"
They narrowly dodged the same thing that many Japanese companies fell victim to, including Sega in this video:
Ignoring/underestimating the Western market trends and adhering to strict traditionalism.
I mind him doing a "what's wrong" with Nintendo video since even though Nintendo is still king or whatever they still have their problems and issues and all, but i'm wondering if Nintendo won't take down the video when he does make it since Nintendo seems to copyright anything that they don't like seeing or whatever i don't know.
Simple.
The incredible botched launch and life cycle of the Wii U.
+Camad203 So shouldn't it just be what ruined the WiiU then?
Manuel Alberto Romero
Precisely, cause even though the Wii U was a massive failure, the 3Ds is still a success.
The best part about this video is every time sega makes a mistake sonic cartoon goes “that’s no good” lol
sega before: makes games and consoles
now: basically the same just without consoles
There was another handheld in 1995-2005. It’s called the sega pico. It’s a educational handheld.
to recite from wikipedia, "Powered by the same hardware used in the Sega Genesis, the physical shape of the Pico was designed to appear similar to a laptop. Included in the Pico is a stylus called the "Magic Pen" and a pad to draw on. Controlling the games for the system is accomplished either by using the Magic Pen like a mouse or by pressing the directional buttons on the console. The Pico does not include its screen or RF output, and instead must be connected to a monitor through Composite video or a VCR to be played on an RF screen. Touching the pen to the pad would either allow drawing or animate a character on the screen."
Sega was always head of its time. 16-bit, internet connectivity, discs...the VMU system..
The DreamCast is still my favorite system.
@videoluver7 I sense a lack of gaming taste in somebody....
@videoluver7 Eh, you to be honest.
@videoluver7 SEGA, XBOX, MIDWAY, HEAVY IRON, ELECTRONIC ARTS, SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIOUS!
There you have it.
@videoluver7 I'm trying to say that SEGA is the best!
Dreamcast is love
Dreamcast is life
To me, *It's still thinking*
“Sega does what Nintendon’t”
(Goes third party)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! ROASTED!
Dudes Average ironically the profile picture is Emboar, a Fire type Pokémon, and based on a pig.
More like Sega doesn't what Nintendoes
Nintendo is what Sega Genesisn't
@@oosha2000 too bad now days the Nintendo about to do the same thing the only mascots that is still keeping them afloat is Mario and the legend of Zelda series if sony Xbox let not forget the PC with emulators can play lots of these games as well
I'm still mourning the death of the DreamCast all these years later.
I think that the 32X played a larger role in ending Sega's hardware line than this video implies.
If they worked with flare technologies on what would become the Atari Jaguar, and designed in an adaptor that included a zilog z80 to add backwards compatability by working with the Motorola 68000, they could have had a buyback/used sale program to expand G/MD access, instead of trying to improve it. This could have bought more time to develop a true 64 bit system.
Sega will always be here, but the system will not. I believe that's what the Nostagia Critic said.
Giovanni Orellana
What episode did he say that?
And Sega could still make good games without worrying about the hardware. But for the most part they don't. I believed when they made the announcement that it would be great for them. They always had a handful of games I wanted to play, I just never wanted to play them bad enough to get the hardware. Sega is a company that has been eating itself from within for years. They have so much potential but they so rarely live up to it.
+Giovanni Orellana Close, but the saying actually went like this:
SEGA! the "Challenge" will always be there, but the system will not.
I think that it was Segata
Segata sanshiro!!
Every time he says Sega, the "That's no good!" scene gets slower.
SegaDisney Then the last time, it didn't play at all lol
That's when you know the scene's been overplayed lmao
SegaDisney annoys me how he mispronounces it’s like dude whenever you boot a sega published or made game
Not segga, its prounounced sayga. Shit got me fucking triggered
Poor sega Japan, didn't understand the western market at all.
Me: Sonic, I want to tell you. I love yo-
Sonic: That's no Good!
So long story short, SEGA of Japan is the reason for the entirety of SEGA's failures. Got it.
Ironically, SEGA's feud with its different branches exists to this day. Yeah...
OH MY, YOUR HERE TO! But yes I agree Sega pride killed them, and it's sad to hear that Sega never really got over this problem. Screw Sega of Japan.
Sonic Badass The video popped up in my recommended and decided to give it a watch :).
I already knew about most of this before. And while SEGA's isn't around making consoles, they are at least keeping arcade-like games and the arcade spirit alive along with Platinum.
Because God help us, we need arcade games in this day and age, especially to counter balance the rise in popularity of "cinematic" games like TLOU or the upcoming new God of War game *shudders*
I see another brother of the TLOU is overrated club Imao.
No. Don't comment on something you know nothing about.
They are not. They had nothing to do with SEGA's failures.
As a Kid, I used to play E.T. for hours.
I had no idea it wasn't "good." LOL
Tom Cat , How?
@@maybeim2372 He probably thought it would open up a portal to a better game.
To be fair, that's what they were banking on
To be fair, E.T wasn't THAT bad, though. There were much worse 2600 games. Albeit, they weren't as high profile.
It's no good...
Sega's biggest enemy was not Nintendo
It was Sega
I'm Sega fan & my kid loves sonic the Dreamcast was a legend I wish they would comeback but Sony still the boss so I don't know what would happen
That’s why my uncle and my other uncle like PlayStation and Nintendo and they don’t care for sega and when I go to my friends house he’s and sega fan but he only plays xbox is it weird for me to like PlayStation and sega
English please!
@@user-sp2jg9rx8r I'm not even English anyway
I think the issues is that Sonic is their mascot, so whenever they do something stupid with him it reflects badly on the whole company.
And boy have they done some dumb stuff with him. Sometimes I ask myself why Sonic team keeps making these games if they keep screwing up Sonic in some way or another.
At this point sonic should be ripped away from Sega, sonic team, or both. Sega ruined most of 06's potential and Sega and sonic team both destroyed boom(synergy) and threw big red button under the bus. I'm still bitter that people still call BRB a crappy developer when it was Sega and sonic team.
Sonic needs to be given to people that care.
Agreed.
Sonic Badass Hopped one day.
Simple Answer: Sega Of Japan ruined Sega
EXACTLY! This seemed like a pride and ego situation with them. Had they let Sega America run free with the decisions like they said, it could've been the Playstation console as we know it. smh
@James Earl Cash Or, yknow, download an emulator and dump your games and never clean squat again. I like NeVeR having to blow out cartridges again. and then you can properly store the consoles as collectibles.
@@noirking6138 Can you imagine if the N64 had a CD option? If the PS1 & PS2 had Sega's full support? Even if they weren't better, you'd have the PS2 & DC in one, which were already fantastic alone. Oh well...
simple, ww2.
Indeed
Menwhile in Sega Japan: We have failed (Multuable stab sounds)
Some amazing games written for these lowly machines with hardly any RAM. Today's coders have no idea on how to do things with limited resources.
I remember playing the mega drive at a school friend's house. Sonic was bafflingly fast. This obsession with speed was how I remember them, including the excellent f-zero gx for Nintendo GameCube. Superb.
Best FZero game imo, and my personal favorite racing game of all time lol.
It helps that the cartridge format lets the console access its content roughly as fast as its internal ram. Look at the famicom disk system, it had to have enough ram to store the games prior to running. The devs today know pretty well how to work within such constraints, but writing assembly code is incredibly tedious, an experienced game programmer could for example write a game engine from scratch that mimics smb3 in capability within days, a feat that would take months in assembly. The other factor is that the old systems had hard limitations on sprites on screen and other resource limitations, its a lot easier to plan for such strict limitations than writing general game engines that has to support anything a level designer wish to throw in there.
SEGA of America: "We have good ideas that people will actually like."
SEGA of Japan. "No, use our bad old-people ideas instead."
So SEGA now?
No, that's not the truth or whole story.
+Tornado1994 You again? LOL.
Sega J. really needs to change their attitude.
Lieutenant BaconWaffles SEGA of America: ugh fine
SEGA of jp: sorry here use our sound track
You forgot to mention that SEGA made it prohibitive for developers to develop for the SEGA Saturn, which contained a proprietary chipset that was difficult and expensive to code for. Some game developers went as far as to reverse-engineer SEGA games to try to learn more about how to develop for the Saturn, only to have SEGA sue them instead of providing better documentation! A lawsuit which SEGA embarrassingly lost in the end, because it was ruled that preventing developers from reverse-engineering SEGA games wasn't ruled as patent infringement, but instead stifled competition in the open market. In short, SEGA wound-up competing with its own loyal developers over the Saturn console.
Incorrect. PSX was never released outside of Japan.
Mackenzie Peters no worries, before the PSX DVR unit came out many referred to the first PlayStation as PSX, because "PSX" was initially the console's code name. People starting calling PlayStation PS1 when the successor PS2 came out. Before that it was often abbreviated as PS or PSX.
"Code name"? So, PlayStation's name was often abbreviated as with its code name, despite that other consoles have not been treated with such practice? Most illogical.
Anakunus other consoles? Most systems have code names. It's certainly logical. To me it's illogical to even ask this question.
No. A logical thing would be to abbreviate other consoles with their code names, yet that is not done. Thus, referring to PlayStation with its code name is illogical.
I just loved how part of the Sega Gennises advertising was making fun of Nintedno
12:36
*D U S T M Y D O I L I E S*
Decades later, Sonic has gotten his first live-action movie starring James Marsden.
It hurts me,the movie deeply hurts me
@@amyfain9925 How about now?
@@amyfain9925 This aged like milk.
That's SO good
@@amyfain9925 How 'bout now?
Never thought you do a video game company
What ruined Sega?
Two words.
Ken Penders.
When I was a kid I thought Xbox belong to Sega cause u would see it every were it turns out Sega was making all these games for it 😭
Microsoft and Sega have always had a great relationship. For example, now SEGA is launching Yakuza games on the Xbox Game Pass.
Actually that was intended and the idea was thrown around to make the X-box be able to play dreamcast games. However that ultimately proved to be too difficult.
It's hilarious to see how fucking savage most of these old console commercials were.
And plain OFFENSIVE TOO !
Basically all the commercials were saying that whoevere owned a Nintendo was an idiot.
A. Liguria Well didn't that end well?
Well it's safe to say Sega of *Japan's* decisions contributing to their downfall is the opposite of what I was expecting.
No, its not.
^^ the guy here is everywhere on this kind of comment like bots man...
//dont attack me here i know nothing about consoles...cuz my parents never let me to buy any consoles. Whether that’d be Switch, PS, Xbox, DS, or even pc games and steam vouchers. *sigh*//
Sega of Japan didn't make any decisions, their Parent Company CSK did.
It doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
17:27
Imagine having a console that big and how big the screen would have to be to make it a giant version of the original.
The depressing moment you realize that Sonic 64 could've been a thing
*THAT'S NO GOOD...*
Who still sings the Sega jingle...SEEEEGAAA!!!
who doesn't lol? SE-GA!
Me 😋💨
@@michaeljohng4029 same
🙋🏻♂️
Me
The fall of Sega can be summarized into 1 word. $299.
This reminded me of those old playvalue videos about the history of gaming . They did one on the Sega/ Nintendo wars, but I love the details in this one
Early 90s Sega: "Sonic shouldn't have a human girlfriend"
2006 Sega: CHECK OUT OUR GAME WHERE SONIC GETS A HUMAN GIRLFRIEND...
Beastiality is a sin against Gawd!
shut up meg
Haha
Diplamatik Juan Waht??
Meg R.L.
The very 1st sonic game came out in mid 1991
SEGA also created one of the best arcade rail shooters The House Of The Dead.
I got house of the dear 2 on dream cast that game is sooo cool
Bro I would play that game for hours!! Remember Leathal Enforcers?
And even better: virtua cop.
Damn I forgot about that game
SEGA created most of the best arcade rail shooters, and so many other great arcade games 🚀
Pretty amazing just how often Sega makes terrible strategic decisions.
A sega Microsoft partnership would've been perfect with sega branding giving the consoles credibility in Japan and Microsoft giving the console a huge push by selling the dreamcast bundled with sonic adventure, and fucking halo.
Thats no good
Sonic Mania took the bullet out of SEGA’s foot.
And then Sonic Forces shot it back in. Double-barrel shotgun.
Actually, that foot's gonna have to be amputated.
Lange not really if you think about it, for the sake of argument if Mania didn't exist Forces would have been your typical average Sonic game. Mania was a pleasant surprise to many hardcore players and Forces fun for the passionate fan base that at least had a fun character creation and good soundtrack. Far better then Sonic Boom at least (which I know isn't saying much but still)
StephySon That's exactly how I see it. Its still sad that SEGA has a HUGE library of characters and franchise to bank off from veterans or newcomers, but they never take those risks anymore. They are like a washed-out, 3rd party Nintendo, and that's incredibly depressing to me.
I think what he meant was that Sonic Mania managed to elevate the image of the Sonic franchise, and Sonic Forces went down again ...
I believe Forces cut off the foot instead of putting the bullet back in. Now all we need is a game recognized by all Sonic fans young and old alike to make SEGA a prosthetic foot.
These are some painful metaphors.
well sonic and mario arent vs eachother cuz sonic do like mario as friend
"what ruined Sega?"
Treasure didn't make all it's games
Looking back at this comment, it's kinda cheesy, but still kinda true to some extent
I just really wish to buy a console and a video game and hear "SEEEEGAAAAA" one day in 2020 or beyond.
MiREK that day may never come😢
No they aren't. You appear to be the incompetent one because you typed that all up, so assure of yourself.
Yes it will. Look out April 2018!
RAZOR is STILL coming, don't fret.
Its prototype will go on display at incoming Cons next Spring.
Sega United I hope you're right.