OASIS: Every studio track Oasis recorded for ‘Some Might Say’?

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  • @JKGuitar
    @JKGuitar Před 3 lety +158

    Maybe I'm stating the obvious here, but Bonehead is definitely one of the reasons how they got that epic power-house sound. His guitar tracks sound massive isolated, let alone when the other tracks are mixed in. You can tell this in the live shows he's done with Liam recently.

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +52

      No you're bang on, I very much agree. Bonehead's style was absolutely fundamental to the Oasis sound - you can hear the difference in Noel's solo stuff, the songwriting is good but the aggression is missing, and that's where Bonehead is needed I reckon

    • @streetmansam5073
      @streetmansam5073 Před 3 lety +12

      @JK Guitar as much as I thought Gem was a better guitarist them big overdriven barre chords Bondhead used to play were missed at times. I loved the Down By the River Gig where Bonehead played his original parts, Jay played Noels rhythm part and the lead guitarist (soz don’t know his name) played Noels lead lines. Massive sound!! 🙌🙌

    • @indiekiduk
      @indiekiduk Před 3 lety +5

      Agree, recently noticed his test strums between live songs sound epic

    • @Jimmywilliams_
      @Jimmywilliams_ Před 3 lety +4

      Your correct! for
      Me when gem joined they lost a bit of depth (i love gem btw) only because he used a different guitar to bonehead.
      As he wad the engine behind the bands sond in the first 3 albums

    • @streetmansam5073
      @streetmansam5073 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Jimmywilliams_ Agreed, Got love for Gem as well. Stylish Gezza and his playing on
      ‘Sitting Here In Silence’ was top draw

  • @willbainbridgedrummer
    @willbainbridgedrummer Před 3 lety +52

    This single for me is the greatest single Oasis ever released. Not only is the single great, but the three b-sides are simply unbeatable. All original compositions, all in the top 20 best Oasis songs and with an album cover that is interesting, eye-catching and instantly recognizable. Other singles may have had a stronger A-side, but no other Oasis single has three absolutely perfect B-sides. Totally deserving of being their first number 1.

  • @48Ender48
    @48Ender48 Před 3 lety +29

    Can't believe I've been listening to this song for 25 years and there's still parts I didn't realise were in it. Like the backwards guitar bends in the guitar break

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +6

      Yeah there's tons of interesting stuff buried in here. The sheer amount in Champagne Supernova too is absolutely crazy

  • @JasonJayJJ1
    @JasonJayJJ1 Před rokem +5

    When I listen to "Roll With It" , especially the intro drums, you instantly know why they hired him. You can instantly tell the difference of what a seasoned pro brings to a band. Isn't that a cowbell in the solo of that song? That's the first time a cowbell was ever used in an Oasis song and it fits perfectly and added gloriously to the song.

  • @sampower1735
    @sampower1735 Před 3 lety +28

    I don't know why but I love the chord progression in the chorus. It's quite stunning honestly. Has an uplifting sound

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah its awesome

    • @MarlboroughBlenheim1
      @MarlboroughBlenheim1 Před 2 lety

      It’s taken from “Fool” by Blur on Leisure - listen to it. D - Em - G.

    • @doodlebob3758
      @doodlebob3758 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@MarlboroughBlenheim1Every musician is a theif, just a matter of degree.

    • @MarlboroughBlenheim1
      @MarlboroughBlenheim1 Před 4 měsíci

      @@doodlebob3758 define thief v influenced by and added to

    • @sb6482
      @sb6482 Před 25 dny +1

      @@MarlboroughBlenheim1is it heck. hardly groundbreaking just a standard turnaround

  • @Drod192104
    @Drod192104 Před 3 lety +11

    I always feel like the outro solo is so underrated & it's absolutely my favorite bit of any oasis song ever! the song sets up the ending of the song so well & the fade out is perfect. great video🤝

  • @tompoynton
    @tompoynton Před 3 lety +12

    I saw one of the very first live performances of this, at the secret Bath Pavilion gig the night before they headlined Glastonbury ’95. Alan White’s first gig too

  • @jamieaddisonmusic
    @jamieaddisonmusic Před 3 lety +14

    Has anyone ever loved barre chords as much as Bonehead? It's a big part in the building of the Oasis sound

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +9

      Lol I think he only played them because Noel told him to play barre chords at all times and nothing else

  • @contrapposto8389
    @contrapposto8389 Před 3 lety +14

    I am struck by how much like the La's Noel's clean guitar track sounds.
    An excellent video!

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah it's interesting - I'm pretty sure its just a Fender guitar straight into a very slightly overdriven clean channel on the Orange Amp in the photo. Could be wrong tho

  • @user-qg4rb1of6v
    @user-qg4rb1of6v Před 3 lety +35

    Shinnnnnnnnnnnnnnne
    That was epic

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +7

      Hahahahahahaha
      SHHEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE

    • @legomach8134
      @legomach8134 Před 3 lety +1

      And then it just goes back to him talking so sensibly

  • @Speedy-pf5tm
    @Speedy-pf5tm Před 3 lety +8

    Fascinating video. This era of Oasis always had an undefinable quality to it, their wall of guitars sounded like no-one else. Many tried to copy it and failed spectacularly. The clean Noel parts were particularly great to hear. I like how such a dense sound was conjured up with multiple tracks yet the man Liam just needed one and a bit of reverb. Can’t engineer class. Great video 👍

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah - Liam's vocal style was, as far as I can tell, completely original. I'm not aware of anyone in the past with that style - the way he stood, everything, was designed to drag that sound up from his guts

  • @ferabra8939
    @ferabra8939 Před 3 lety +13

    To me, Bonehead was an integral part of the Oasis sound. Once he was gone, the band lost their signature "wall of guitars", and became more of a 60s sound-alike band. Ironically, the more they managed to sound like the Beatles, the less I like their music. That raw energy and freshness of the Definitely Maybe/Morning Glory and even Be Here Now era disappeared.

    • @PaperBanjo64
      @PaperBanjo64 Před 2 lety +2

      They only regained that early Oasis edge on Dig Out Your Soul, that album had a much heavier sound.

  • @FLAVCO
    @FLAVCO Před 7 dny +1

    this must be my fave oasis song ever! Either this or Cast No Shadow!! Slide Away comes close to :)

  • @gabbybaggins69
    @gabbybaggins69 Před 2 lety +2

    This is such a beautiful song, all the boys at their best.

  • @Petesaintsfc
    @Petesaintsfc Před 3 lety +5

    James you are gift that keeps on giving 👍🏼

  • @79casual
    @79casual Před 3 lety +3

    Got a soft spot for this single, mainly sleeve cover, the train station is just down the road from me in cromford Derbyshire, the line wasn’t in use at the time, but it is now

  • @fanfanackapan
    @fanfanackapan Před 3 lety +6

    Wow! I didn't realise that tune had quite as many guitars on it as that! As guitar heavy as it is, I would never have guessed at that many!

  • @SRDhain
    @SRDhain Před 3 lety +3

    No 11, the sound effect , is either a guitar shoved through a VCS3, with an lfo-filter sweep set up on patch, or it's any synth with an input to its filter (e.g. moog minimoog or Arp 2600) , or even a pedal which allows you to sweep a sound (like a flanger) in any direction, with a built in filter circuit.

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety

      Interesting

    • @SRDhain
      @SRDhain Před 3 lety

      @@JamesHargreavesGuitar I've used synths to process other synths and even complete tracks. It's an age old thing and works a treat when used with care.

  • @timmytootall1
    @timmytootall1 Před 3 lety +1

    So nice to see others who appreciate just how good this song is.

  • @tabeecorr6611
    @tabeecorr6611 Před 3 lety +9

    Yeah James great detail you went into this classic Oasis tune. Noel certainly loves his layers like a graphic designer on Photoshop. It was a pity that Liam couldn't hit the high notes of Some Might Say doing this live. As Oasis binned it from their live sets not long after. Which was a blow especially it been their 1st number one.
    Have you ever thought of doing a video on how hard it is to sing Oasis songs live consistency like on a 3 to 6 month tour. I honestly believe singing Oasis songs day in, day out on tour would totally batter your singing vocals. As well the tempo that Liam sings in nowadays I think he cannot go mad like in his 20s or his singing vocals will just get shot big time. I think his doctor or a specialist had a wee word in his ear. That he has to sing in a more structure way these days.

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah you're right re singing - Liam stands the way he does on stage not to pose, but because that's how you have to stand to pull up that kind of tone from your guts (I'm a trained singing teacher as well as guitar) and if you do that without warming up or taking care of your vocal chords you will trash them. I just can't imagine what doing that week in week out from 93-98 did to Liam. But I really do reckon thats what made his voice change - he just bloody mangled it from never warming up, smoking, and pushing it too far. You remember when he started missing gigs because his voice was beginning to pack up?

  • @adamwest7936
    @adamwest7936 Před 3 lety +5

    Nice one James, ‘some might say’ is probably my favourite oasis song. Wish I knew all about the different tracks back in the day, my band would record rhythm & lead & think guitars were done 😆

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety

      Yeah, that's the bonus of having a producer like Owen Morris I guess - it was him who got them layering up their sound like this. On their earlier demos they did just lay it down exactly as they did live... and it wasn't a patch on this.

  • @georgeprice4212
    @georgeprice4212 Před rokem +2

    Whoever mixed the track REALLY must have liked the Tambourine part! It was heavily featured on most of the stems/tracks!

  • @rstevens1836
    @rstevens1836 Před 2 lety +1

    One of my all-time favourite Oasis songs. Thanks so much for taking the time and effort and organization in stripping down this bad-ass song in detail. Long live Oasis & the Gallaghers!

  • @jeffletendre5025
    @jeffletendre5025 Před rokem +1

    This is amazing, especially for a former musician who spent a lot of time in studios and is a hardcore Oasis fan!! Thank you so much sir!!

  • @aidanhickey9845
    @aidanhickey9845 Před 3 lety +6

    8:29 I never noticed those other little noodly bits under the rhythm and clean guitar. Great video.

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +4

      Thanks Aidan. Yeah, a ton of the 90s Oasis sound came from multitracking, to an extent that most musicians today would never do

    • @aidanhickey9845
      @aidanhickey9845 Před 3 lety +2

      @@JamesHargreavesGuitar You're totally right, I'd never think of multi-tracking the rhythm guitar like that, mostly because I record my demos on an app that only has 8 tracks available so I can't afford to waste 3 tracks just on rhythm guitars, haha!

  • @zzzzzzzzzzy
    @zzzzzzzzzzy Před 2 měsíci

    the last 15 seconds of the song has an awesome guitar strum to it. it is slightly heavier than the rest of the rhythm of the song but sounds so good

  • @MGMA510
    @MGMA510 Před 3 lety +27

    Would love to see some videos on the roses as well as oasis!

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +3

      Cool, I may look into that, although the resources to really dig into the Stone Roses tracks are annoyingly really limited - they never released anything in any other formats so all you can hear is simply the finished songs and that's it. You never know though, something cool and new might come to light in the future where we get better access to their individual stems

    • @twiggycfc1
      @twiggycfc1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@JamesHargreavesGuitar I know there was a guy who had although the finished product the isolated audios of all parts of Love Spreads

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety

      @@twiggycfc1 really? Very interesting indeed... I’ll be looking into that then...

  • @chrisfreedman1707
    @chrisfreedman1707 Před 3 lety +2

    My friend, you are dedicated. This is awesome. Thank you, again!

  • @wonderwall1994
    @wonderwall1994 Před 3 lety +3

    Great video as always! This and Don’t Look Back in Anger were mixed at a slightly higher pitch (451Hz I think). Never really known the real reason for that, but definitely gives the songs a distinctive sound, no doubt.

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +4

      Hi Marc - it was producer Owen Morris, he used varispeed to increase the tempo and pitch of the songs to a place he felt was exciting

  • @Lorenzen888
    @Lorenzen888 Před 3 lety +2

    Amazing work James. Always a great watch. Thank you!

  • @cullipyt
    @cullipyt Před 3 lety +4

    Got this Single for free. Amazing single with class B-Sides.

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +2

      One of the greatest 4-song EPs ever released

    • @lovroknezevic8555
      @lovroknezevic8555 Před 3 lety

      Hey me too! Last year when they did a giveaway to commemorate 25 years since its release :)

  • @bentheled
    @bentheled Před 3 lety +13

    On of the songs on this single, Headshrinker, is McCarrolls best performance in the studio in my opinion.....and one of his last.

  • @lewisclark1122
    @lewisclark1122 Před 2 lety +1

    'Shhhheeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnn-ah'.
    Love it.

  • @Pazuzu82
    @Pazuzu82 Před 3 lety +1

    Acquiese and Headshrinker are in my top 10 oasis songs

  • @Birdsnestboy
    @Birdsnestboy Před 3 lety +1

    These are great videos Mr Hargreaves. Really interesting. Love hearing the isolated parts as well. Don't even realise some of them are there!

  • @--thatbih
    @--thatbih Před rokem +1

    Bass definitely sounds like Guigs. After hearing lots of isolated bass tracks played Noel there's a key difference between the two. Noel's playing is a bit more smooth sounding than Guigs and sounds less amateur-ish

  • @s.storumus8620
    @s.storumus8620 Před rokem +1

    Nah that tambourine is for sure Owen Morris. Sounds like a plug in digital tambourine sound

  • @titep1329
    @titep1329 Před 3 lety +1

    Interesting stuff. Cheers for the video! Possibly one of my favourite Oasis tunes, probably because it sounds like their live sound! 👍🏻

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety

      Yeah it's the most 'definitely maybe' of all the WTSMG tracks (closely followed by Roll With It)

  • @s.storumus8620
    @s.storumus8620 Před rokem +2

    I’m certain Guigs played bass, I just listened to the whole isolated bass track and the timing is so imprecise and so out of time, it can only be guigs

  • @tabeecorr6611
    @tabeecorr6611 Před 3 lety +1

    James great your teaching many out there to improve their singing and guitar playing.
    You should remember this one is probably the 1st time that Liam pulled out with a sore throat. The night Oasis did like acoustic unplug at the Royal Albert Hall. I'm pretty sure they showed it live on the tele at the time. Liam was up in the balcony hiding but still drinking booze with a puff of a cigarette too. You could tell Noel wasn't impressed and I'm sure that night was went it built the confidence into Noel to sing more than one or two Oasis songs live. Yeah singing Oasis songs day in, day out must be a proper cutthroat business for a singer.

  • @streetmansam5073
    @streetmansam5073 Před 3 lety +1

    Great breakdown of the song James, big thanks 👍

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +1

      Cheers Sam, my pleasure mate

    • @streetmansam5073
      @streetmansam5073 Před 3 lety

      @@JamesHargreavesGuitar Keep this great series going. looking forward to hearing your EP (congrats on the record label)

  • @richfromtheligerz4922
    @richfromtheligerz4922 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video James Great breakdown of every track just brilliant ❤️

  • @lewismacdonald1516
    @lewismacdonald1516 Před 3 lety +1

    Classic! Fantastic effort as always James : )

  • @colingeddes2172
    @colingeddes2172 Před 3 lety +1

    Quite simply a great song from the greatest band since the who and the jam.

  • @chrisgatesmusic
    @chrisgatesmusic Před 6 měsíci

    What your ears hear James? Not a 'missed track', but Liam's vocal during 'Noel BGV 1' sound as if Owen slowed the tape down to create the buzz-saw effect (especially on "Shine"....of course)....
    IF I'm hearing that correctly....what do you think the odds are that varispeed effect was implemented more than a few times, whenever the word 'Shine" appears, in different Oasis tracks over the years??
    As always, great content!!!

  • @leominiati1746
    @leominiati1746 Před 4 měsíci

    Wonderful video, thank you very much

  • @tornaclconor5149
    @tornaclconor5149 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video as always man thank you

  • @wilwrest
    @wilwrest Před rokem +1

    That song was released on my birthday

  • @tomskilling7216
    @tomskilling7216 Před 3 lety +1

    your channel is amazing and your videos are so interesting and informative, Keep it up!!! Thank you!

  • @marshallbonnette2606
    @marshallbonnette2606 Před měsícem

    I have wondered - is this track slightly sped up, which is why it is in the key of E-Flat? I love Liam’s high vocals he hit in the choruses, but I don’t know if he actually hit them - if the actual recording was in a lower key (like they play it live in “D”, which is a typical Oasis key you’d expect)

  • @dean-marr
    @dean-marr Před 3 lety +1

    These are great. Thanks 😊🙏

  • @lovroknezevic8555
    @lovroknezevic8555 Před 3 lety +3

    Great video! It always blows my mind how these parts isolated never sound really complicated or hard, but once you mix them all together they form such a great song. Really makes you realize how good of a composer Noel is :)

    • @mumbles215
      @mumbles215 Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah their music was pretty simple and easy to play but the execution was spot on. Sometimes the simplest things are best. The whole is def Greater than the sum of is parts

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +1

      Cheers Lovro - yeah he plays it down and acts dumber than he is for the sake of his image. He's a clever bloke really - and a massive part of this was Owen Morris too

  • @tylerhawks8376
    @tylerhawks8376 Před 3 lety +1

    Another exceptional post!!

  • @scott198086
    @scott198086 Před 3 lety +2

    I'd be inclined to say that tracks 6 and 7 sound more like Noel to me. The small inflections in his playing give it away (the A to Asus4 hammer on at the end of track 6 especially) Plus, they both have that raw JCM900 crunch sound that he used alot on the album. Great to hear the individual tracks though. Cheers!

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety

      Yes you might be right there. A few people have suggested switching the Bonehead / Noel roles there

  • @petrsvoboda1895
    @petrsvoboda1895 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video mate. Keep 'em comin.

  • @nuffdafairy
    @nuffdafairy Před 2 měsíci

    Just found this vid. Really interesting. With Bone heads rhythm, track 5&6, it sounds to me to be the same take with the amp double mic'd with one off axis/centre,with track 7 as the distance mic. Could all be one take.

  • @Jim_Thomas_Draper
    @Jim_Thomas_Draper Před 3 lety +3

    The "mad sound effect" is just a synthesiser of some sort. No idea what synth it would have been in 95, but to achieve that sound is pretty straightforward:
    Turn the resonance on a filter up high enough that it starts making noise by itself, assign a low frequency oscillator to control the volume, adjust the speed of the the LFO so that it's in time with the song, slowly adjust the cutoff frequency of the filter over the course of the section of the song.
    Getting the tempo right might be a bit tricky if the song isn't played to a click track, but apart from that it should take only a few minutes to create and record that sound

  • @WalterSobchak1000
    @WalterSobchak1000 Před 3 lety +2

    Headshrinker is a brilliant track

  • @Rscanlon322
    @Rscanlon322 Před 2 lety +1

    Think track 8 could be bonehead actually because it’s playing power chords which Noel rarely did , the one before actually sounds more like Noel because it sounds like open chords. Does this matte, not really

  • @dmc0110
    @dmc0110 Před 3 lety +2

    I need to see you try this for All around the world or D'you know what i mean. Great songs with a ton of tracks.

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +2

      I would love to do that song... but annoyingly there are no multitracks available. Super annoying! I wish we had access to more stuff from the BHN era, but we don't... maybe one day

    • @dmc0110
      @dmc0110 Před 3 lety +1

      @@JamesHargreavesGuitar one day soon hopefully!

  • @karmajarrule
    @karmajarrule Před 3 lety

    The reversed garble at the start is awesome, I remember reversing it and speeding it up as a teen and laughing my head off

  • @paulyb-englishmaninhangzho3609

    Great song, great analysis! cheers

  • @autywizja
    @autywizja Před 3 lety +1

    I think it's possible that Noel is the one who provides bass here. I've read long time ago that Guigsy was playing root notes only, and bass here is more complex than only roots.

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety

      Yeah - Noel played on wonderwall too, and the bass playing on these two tracks sounds similar to me

  • @xennialmusic4332
    @xennialmusic4332 Před 3 lety +2

    Amazing breakdown as always James. Thank you for this! How many rhythm guitar tracks did you put down on new EP? 😁

  • @sodiumlights
    @sodiumlights Před 3 lety +2

    ace song, ace single, shockingly shoddy cover art.

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +1

      Hahahahahahaha everyone is divided on the cover. I kinda like it... but not all that much. It's not Wonderwall or Don't Look Back In Anger, which captured the colours of the songs perfectly. This one... yeah its kinda cool but not outstanding cover-wise for me

  • @ChopKnives
    @ChopKnives Před 3 lety +2

    I don't think you mentioned (although I may have missed it) the finger slides in the intro

  • @michaelanyon5124
    @michaelanyon5124 Před 2 lety

    Excellent & thank you

  • @Wearethewingmakers
    @Wearethewingmakers Před 3 lety +1

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  • @eddysandland58
    @eddysandland58 Před 3 lety +2

    Quality Again James! What a Tune & Single! Love your breakdowns and Noels stated that he prefers the Demo (used with Verve's Gear/Equipment) coz it Sounds Heavier! I was wondering whats your thoughts!? Cheers Mate

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety

      Cheers Eddy! To be honest I think I'll always like the single version, because it's the version I've always known and loved. The demo is cool - and I bet Noel likes it because its the recording he first got to know! It's the full Liam-sung version for me tho

    • @eddysandland58
      @eddysandland58 Před 3 lety +1

      @@JamesHargreavesGuitar, Same As Man! Another one is The Hindu Times Demo which is Heavier/Raw RnR! If Oasis used the Released lyrics n put Liams Vocals on the Demo! I Wonder what the fans might of thought 🤔 You know!? Cheers Again Mate

  • @echosun79
    @echosun79 Před 2 dny

    cant find these multitracks anywhere..anyone know where to get them?

  • @Rgdonaire_07
    @Rgdonaire_07 Před 3 lety

    Loves the “shiaaaaaaaaiiiiiiine” part lol

  • @davefilms345
    @davefilms345 Před 3 lety +2

    This is brilliant, it's amazing to know what actually goes into recording a song let alone an album. Why would Noel play the bass tracks though isn't that what guisgsy is there for how come he didn't do it for the album

    • @jland12
      @jland12 Před 3 lety

      His timing on the bass wasn't that great. Worked OK live but not quite good enough for recording

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety

      Cheers - yeah he was just too imprecise for alot of recording was Guigsy. As far as I'm aware, Noel played all bass parts on DM, around half of them on WTSMG, and Guigsy did them all on BHN

    • @PantheonLincoln
      @PantheonLincoln Před 3 lety

      @@JamesHargreavesGuitar seems like a similar situation to the first two albums by The Smashing Pumpkins (who fairly recently did a joint headline tour with Noel, oddly enough).
      While Billy Corgan was, and still is, notorious control freak, it was agreed that if he did most of James Iha's guitar parts and D'Arcy Wretsky's bass parts in the studio, he could nail it in fewer takes.

  • @candycaneproductions3254
    @candycaneproductions3254 Před 3 lety +5

    Sounds to me like that sounds effect has come from a synthesiser. 👍

  • @jonathansanso5900
    @jonathansanso5900 Před 2 lety

    I always had the feeling that in Def. Maybe, Whats the story, Be here now needed to reinforce the volume of the bass and the kick, so everything would not sound so harshy. I love these CDs. :D

  • @spencersegelov5308
    @spencersegelov5308 Před 3 lety +1

    We can hear a bit of primitive pre- auto-tune going on with Liam's vocals on the word 'shine'. Owen used the Eventide DSP 4000 pitch quantiser on Liam's voice for Wonderwall (as he can be flat), they also had to tune him for Definitely Maybe too.

    • @mumbles215
      @mumbles215 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah you can hear that pretty clear. Seems it stretched the time too. Tony Visconti used on heavily on the drums on Bowie’s “Low” album and it really did give the drums a time expansion feel. Tony said the same too. Expanding the time. I had one in a studio I worked at in the 90s but I never used it, tho had seen it used by coworkers.

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +1

      Haha yeah Liam did need a bit of a nudge on-key, even in the studio

    • @PaulWilliamGibson
      @PaulWilliamGibson Před 3 lety +1

      That’s a time stretching. The old Akai S900 and S1000 samplers did that, it’d take a note and slice it into tiny pieces to extend or stretch the note. The Akai time stretch had a very distinctive sound and I think that’s what it is. These days you can stretch samples seamlessly.

    • @spencersegelov5308
      @spencersegelov5308 Před 3 lety +1

      @@PaulWilliamGibson Thanks for this- I just know in this case that Owen used the Eventide on Liam's voice- mainly from this article www.soundonsound.com/people/oasis-wonderwall

  • @hibernian797
    @hibernian797 Před 3 lety +1

    I I wana be adored and supersonic next please!!!!!

  • @stephenhenderson5322
    @stephenhenderson5322 Před 2 lety

    Geeky fact- the handclaps were provided by Noel, Liam, Brian Cannon, Liam's gf at the time (forget her name- she was a model who I believe was later murdered by a partner) and a journalist called Paul Mathur who had access to the band in the early days and from who book I got this info. The book's called something like Oasis: There and then.

  • @theclashcalling_
    @theclashcalling_ Před rokem

    Bonehead's choppy barre chords are the glue between the rhythm section and Noel and Liam's parts; perhaps the USP of their first number one?

  • @cry-baby5170
    @cry-baby5170 Před 3 lety +1

    I've always wondered about the drums, the snare sounds fatter and much more powerful on the final record compared to the isolated track. It's a similar sound as on Acquiesce and C & A I think. So I believe the drums must have been further processed, some compression I guess for the snare to cut through all the guitars? Any thoughts James or anyone? Or am I just stating the obvious thing here.

    • @eddysandland58
      @eddysandland58 Před 3 lety

      Cry baby, For some reason I've always loved the Drums for SMS! Especially on the chorus "I've been standing 'bang' at the station 'bang' etc" you know what I Mean!? Another shout out to McCaroll Drummer on DM, B-Sides & SMS Oasis' 1st No# one! Fair Play

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety

      Hi Cry-Baby - the tracks we are hearing here are unmastered, the 'pop' you're hearing will have come from Owen Morris' mastering style 👍👍

    • @cry-baby5170
      @cry-baby5170 Před 3 lety

      @@JamesHargreavesGuitar All of them, okay..Thanks James, the pop exactly. Owen Morris- where would they be without the man, who knows.

    • @cry-baby5170
      @cry-baby5170 Před 3 lety

      @@eddysandland58 Yeah Eddy, crash on the 2nd and 4th, fits there perfectly.

    • @cry-baby5170
      @cry-baby5170 Před 3 lety

      By the way if any of you guys know how to mix the snare from the base drum track into the one on the final record, please let me know. I don't. Thanks!

  • @Adrian-mh5gf
    @Adrian-mh5gf Před 3 lety +1

    I have a question. If Guigs never played bass in the studio hardly and didn’t even play bass again for this track why the hell was Noel and Owen giving Tony such a hard time about his drumming. It doesn’t make any sense.

  • @realneal000
    @realneal000 Před rokem

    Amazing!! I am still blown away by your Wtsmg and master plan conspiracy video. Where did you get your individual track breakdown for this track?

  • @luckyxtension700
    @luckyxtension700 Před 4 měsíci +1

    It wasn't Rock Band,his first appearance was in Guitar Hero World Tour

  • @doctornov7
    @doctornov7 Před 3 lety +3

    I've always heard this high end whirr in the mix, towards the end of the track. It comes in at exactly 4:00 in the official studio track.
    Anyone else hear this?

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +3

      Yes - you're bang on, it's a very heavy reverb and delay on Noels backing vocals. Good ear!

  • @johnjellicoe6910
    @johnjellicoe6910 Před rokem

    Does anyone have the tab for the lead guitar chorus??? Plsss

  • @attherateofarobase
    @attherateofarobase Před 2 lety

    Really cool video James. Something that gets overlooked with the mixing is the way the official mix butchered the snare drum making it sound really thin (possibly out of phase with the overheads or using some kind of imaging) and over compressed, whereas the snare in the stems sounds in phase and much better (possibly with some gated reverb that's typically added to Rock Band or Guitar Hero Stems).
    Track 8 is definitely Bonehead as you can hear the G is being played as a barre chord (Bonehead would actually play open chords in the chorus in later live versions which actually sounded a lot better..maybe Noel "allowed" him to ahaha). 6 and 7 are definitely Noel (you can hear open G chords here) and there's also an additional lead line by Noel mixed into track 7.
    Tony was the best drummer Oasis had by miles. Getting rid of him instantly eliminated the swing and attack of the band and resulted in slower, more plodding songs moving forward.Tony's drums on this are really solid and as with all songs from the Tony era, none of the drummers that came after were ever able to play the songs from this period with the right feel. I'd be curious to find out, given that this was all recorded to tape, how much editing of takes was done to Tony's drums. His live playing at Metro 1994 is outstanding for example and his timing is rock solid at that gig, so i'm not convinced that there were so many timing issues for the Some Might Say session. Maybe they would splice sections together as many bands did.
    Also, as was typical of several Oasis songs of this era, the original tape playback for the final mix was sped up making the song a few cents sharp from concert pitch. I reckon Owen Morris did this not just to tweak the tempo but also to change the formant of Liam's vocal just a tiny amount.

  • @DarkDalr
    @DarkDalr Před 2 lety

    Hey mate, love the Oasis content, one can really see that you love the band…Listen, I always had this doubt, don’t know if someone has asked it before, on this track, at the outro (Around 4:04 to 4:12, using the original track’s duration as reference) on those two “You know what some might say”, on the version that was released on Guitar Hero: World Tour, you can hear that Liam’s vocals are different from what they sound on the actual studio version released on (What’s the Story) Morning Glory?, specifically on “Say”, do you know why? Like, is this a different vocal track from the one that was used on the studio recording? Is there a version with this vocal track like, a demo or something?

  • @Jimmywilliams_
    @Jimmywilliams_ Před 3 lety

    Love your videos really good insight into my favourite band oasis. Id love to see a video on Liams version of sad song...
    Also i may have some
    Information on a earlier recording session were i know the band did record in a studio north wales ( 5mins down the round from me)
    before the release of DM
    and the rumour is noel may have recorded sad song in this same session that liam recorded his version on the supersonic film. Nobody seems to know where liam recorded his take of sad song.
    Im 80% sure noel did recorded sad song in this session ( i may be off the mark).
    If you need more info about the studio i can provide it in a DM.

  • @MaquiladoraIII
    @MaquiladoraIII Před 3 lety +3

    I wouldn’t say this is my favourite Oasis single, but it’s definitely in the top one.

  • @M0jibake
    @M0jibake Před 2 lety

    I've listened to the drum track and I can't hear the timing issues that Owen Morris talks about. Although the drums soloed do sound a bit clunky.

  • @chrisfrancis5496
    @chrisfrancis5496 Před 27 dny

    Hilarious video and even more hilarious comments

  • @ElvisSnake23
    @ElvisSnake23 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video! The only question I have is the intro. The status-quo stabs... Is there a delay effect on the guitar? I've tried to play it, but it never sounds right. I've seen different interpretations of it, live recordings but how did he get that sound? Cheers

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety

      Hi Elvis, not sure exactly what you mean - can you give me a time reference in the song?

    • @ElvisSnake23
      @ElvisSnake23 Před 3 lety

      @@JamesHargreavesGuitar The intro guitar track. It's like the status quo chord

  • @fabiorinaldi3285
    @fabiorinaldi3285 Před 9 měsíci

    Any idea on which guitar Noel used for the lead part? It sounds to me like a Fender or something, am I wrong?

  • @uniwerksdesign
    @uniwerksdesign Před 3 lety +1

    Love.

  • @radidov5333
    @radidov5333 Před 2 lety

    Appreciate this work of you man. How can we listen separately just each track alone?.. would super cool to hear just a lead guitar alone

  • @stealerob3420
    @stealerob3420 Před 3 lety +1

    There's never enough sheeeiiinnne

    • @JamesHargreavesGuitar
      @JamesHargreavesGuitar  Před 3 lety +1

      These are crazy days but they make me
      SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII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  • @davidluqueskywalker527

    fantastic !!!! another song other than Don't look back or Champagne ...

  • @Seror125
    @Seror125 Před 3 lety

    Allan White plays pearl drums on many oasis videos but SOME MIGHT SAY on the recording of the album WTSMG he actually used a Ludwig Superclassic. Can you help about that?

  • @fanigallagher
    @fanigallagher Před rokem

    Was it a rivera through a marshall bluesbreaker ?

  • @raphaelzajac3090
    @raphaelzajac3090 Před 3 lety

    Hi bro could you make a "every studio track recorded" on Live Forever ? Their sound was a bit more "60's vibes" on this song.

  • @russellfox8278
    @russellfox8278 Před měsícem

    Where did you get these