FIRST TIME WATCHING: Troy (2004) REACTION (Movie Commentary)
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"Paris is trippin" is a pretty solid summery of the whole movie lol
Damn right. All for some🐱🐱 got his whole shit wiped
Makes the French name for City of Love have an interesting back story huh
@@Juju-Senju aint that a bitch.
@@h.donnellgrayiii4276 An entire City State gets destroyed all because a prince wanted to get some poontang with a Greek king's wife.
HAHAHA I know it's been a year but YUP
"I don't know how Hector was born into this family" That statement made me actually laugh out loud LOL. But it's a valid question!
Hey, Lisa Simpson (a genuine genius) was the daughter of one of the biggest idiots in history. These things just happen.
CHOPPER
Hector was a good man and after his death his wife suffered and his country suffered too .
Ytu I tu you were George and 5tty5
Hector in the iliad was alot more loyal to the gods but both versions are great men
The great irony is that in this movie Sean Bean’s character is one of the few to survive to the end.
It's because he's playing a character that has to endure another 10 years of misery :D
well to be fair Sean Bean survived a whole TV Series about the napoleonic War
He is the only one. ;D
Wish they got to do an Oddessey movie with him as the lead, would have been amazing
DID YOU NOTICE THAT? ..... After landing on the beach, Achilles beheaded the statue of Apollo. Apollo was in a kneeling position holding a bow.
At the end paris hit achilles with an arrow from his bow when achilles was kneeling just like the statue of apollo.
Damn I didn’t notice that!
Because in Homer’s Iliad, it is Apollo who deflects the arrow that Paris throws at Achilles’ heel, the only vulnerable part of his body.
@@LightMoviesAchilles doesn't die in the Iliad. Also, he is injured in his elbow, showing he wasn't invulnerable.
The siege of Troy lasted years.
Things left out of the story included Agamemnon sacrificing his daughter for favorable winds.
In the myth Paris was selected by three goddesses to judge their beauty. Each goddess offered him a prize. The prize he selected was the most beautiful woman in the world.
Troy was destroyed, but according to legend Rome was founded by descendants. Also, several other places trace their history back to Troy. Including in some stories Paris, France.
Also, few Greeks survived the journey home. Odysseys, the idea man behind the horse, return was the second great Greek Myth.
@@krichardj also Menelaus survived. He was a honorable man, unlike in this movie. Agamemnon also survived.
The choreography of Achilles vs hector is amazing. Hector knew he was probably going to do die from the start, but he put up a decent fight.
Achilles is literally such a legend that he has a literal body part named after him.
Hector is such a legend that Tuco Salamanca's uncle took his name.
@@BroodallyHonest Yeah, Hector is about as recognized a name in moden times as Achilles.
@@BroodallyHonest - that is one of the funniest things I have read in a long time - well done sir !
Paris has a city named after her.
Poor Ajax had to make due with a football team.
So, the guy Paris handed the sword to and told to find a new home, was Aeneas, whose descendants would found Rome and Britain. Also, the sword ended up with one of the Paladins to Charlemagne, named Roland. The sword was then known as Durendal.
Aeneas' descendants Romulus and Remus founded Rome in 753BC, but none had anything to do with Britain.
@@sangfroidian5451 you do know Rome ruled most of Britain don't you?
@@sangfroidian5451 You do know that Brutus of Troy through Ascanius and Aeneas founded Britain right? Renaming it Albion to Britain after himself. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutus_of_Troy
@@TheWindcrow en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutus_of_Troy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durendal en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutus_of_Troy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeneas en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romulus_and_Remus To save some people some time in denying anything I said. The truth of these ancient claims is dubious maybe, but they are the ancient claims believed for ages.
The characters are very interesting indeed, Hector is the perfect man that every guy wants to be, whereas Achilles has many flaws which in turn makes him more relatable to the audience, I personally can relate much more to Achilles then Hector since I am by no means perfect but Hector still should be a symbol of what honor is to a man
Achilles was punished by death from Apollo being offended after seeing the head cut off a statue of him at his temple.
Homer who wrote it in the 8th centuryB.C (dragging material from older myths and stories -13th centuryB.C.-) had the intelligence to describe Hector as the perfect man, husband, noble worrier to give more glory to the Greeks who won the war and in the same time to make the Greek audience to hate them selves and war in general. THE ILLIAD is considered an anti-war work.
It’s amazing that this story is thousands of years old and we just recently really found where it actually took place.
Where?
@@dieAlbaKids The site is called Hisarlik in the country of Turkey across the Aegean Sea from Greece. It was discovered in the 19th century by two men. Frank Calvert and and Heinrich Schliemann in the 1870s.
fun Fact: Aeneas, the kid Paris handed the sword to at the end of the film, goes on to lead the trojan exiles to the Italian Penninsula where they eventually become the Romans...according to the Aeneid
And Aeneas was said to be the son of Aphrodite or as the Roman's called her, Venus. His descendants were known as the Junii clan and most famous descendant of his clan was Julius Ceasar.
And hundreds of years later, they take over Greece.
"That's why no one will remember your name"
my all time favorite movie and Brad Pitt's greatest role in my opinion
A very underrated performance, even by Brad Pitt who doesn’t think it was that great for some reason. Been studying the Iliad since I was a kid, that’s the best Achilles we’ll ever get.
@@alexman378 Absofuckinglutley.
The source material is "the Iliad" by Homer. This movie very loosely followed the poem, especially since the poem had the actual Greek gods participating. For example, aphrodite, the goddess of love, made Paris and Helen fall in love
Exactly what I was looking for.
Had to scroll far down to see someone connect it to The Iliad.
But the kills were accurate, in the original Iliad, Paris killed Achilles, Achilles killed Hector, and Hector killed Patroclus.
But Paris killed Achilles before the Trojan horse while Achilles was storming the gates. Achilles son later joined the war and helped sack the city. In the Iliad Hector goes out quick and is no match for Achilles
And for what did Aphrodite do that? For an Apple. It's always a goddamn Apple...
@@lez075 umm no it’s not aegammenon and his brother both survive the whole thing which is a big deal
Sean Bean doesn't die it just takes him a really long time to get home
Fun fact: In the greek mith Achiles is unstopable because he is literally indestructible except in the heels. Short story: his mother (who is kind of a goddess) submerged baby Achiles in a magic river with magic water that made him OP. She hold the baby by the heels so all his body is undestructable except his heels. Thats why he is a great warrior and all of that and thats why Paris finally kills him, because the only way to kill him is with an arrow right into the heels
In Western Myth, Paul Bunyan was a burly Titan whom made the Grand Canyon by dragging his axe on the ground
Hence the term when spotting someone's weakness "it's his 'Achillies Heel' "
The indestructible except for his heel thing appears nowhere in the original myths and was added hundreds of years later.
Thanks for posting this, just about everyone over the age of 4 years old knows this.
The movie did a great job with the myth.
This was primarily adapted from the epic poem The Iliad, originally written by Greek poet Homer. Sean Bean's character, King Odysseus, was the main focus of the sequel poem The Odyssey
tYPICAL hOLLYWIERD - They took my dream and CANNED it!
Would’ve been interesting to see how they did the Odyssey starring Sean Bean. Great casting for Odysseus, but then again, the Odyssey is straight up fantasy, so it makes sense they wouldn’t be able to make it fit the tone of this film.
"I have something for you."
"You just gave it to her."
I'm done. 🤣🤣🤣
"Paris, stop talking dude" the movie in a nutshell lmao
I might be the only one to say this but the editing in the original theatrical version is much much better! I pray you go and watch that one when you get a chance! Love your channel man!!!
Yeah I really wish reactors would stick to theatrical releases, or at least label the video with the cut they're watching. A few small cuts can have big changes to the movie.
I agree, it is better! And the music is better too.
Yeah, I agree. I have the DVD of the Theatrical Release & I much prefer it.
Granted, with the spectacular fight scenes & everything, BOTH versions are good. Bu the OG version is BEST.
Hector is such a good character. Imagine that dude surviving and leading. Good lord, that dude has all the best aspects of a king.
Not only that but possibly the best fighter in the world, sadly, Achilles was god-like
this version of hector is my fave movie character ever.in a book song of troy hector was better fighter than achilles, lost cause he tripped over a stone and he was wearing achilleses armour, which was too big for him, achilles saw opening in his armour and killed him.also in that book hector was super boring, helen was pissed off cause troyans didnt let her beat servants and paris was cheating on helen nonstop :)
@@darksoulsspeedrunner5912 that wouldnt sell the movie :D
In the Illiad Hector fled from Achilles until Athena instilled the bravery necessary to fight and die to Achilles. Hector was also unable to defeat Ajax in combat in the Illiad.
@RespectTheSpirits Yes the movie is different. Obviously. Who would go to the movie for education lmao
I was talking about the movie :)
Achilles is Demi-God
Love your focus on the characters they are so developed and like you said with multiple levels of depth. Troy was made in a time when movies were still about people and stories, unlike todays movies that focus on politics and messages thru delivery of weak shallow and unrelatable characters
Very true and very sad😓
RIP Wolfgang Peterson
He's one of those rare foreign directors that made a successful transition to Hollywood and knew exactly how to create a summer blockbuster.
I mean, Paul Verhooven did it fine for a while
"I have something for you." CI: You just gave it to her. LOL. Facts.
I love that Paris annoys the hell out of you here but in Lord of the Rings you're all; "Legolas is my boy!" 🤣
Orlando is great!
And Bailen in Kingdom Of Heaven would have had his respect. And he would've loved Will Turner.
I remember I watched this movie together with my whole family as a teenager. We all loved the character of Hector, we could never shake off the fact that nobody listened to him trough the entire movie. All other characters' actions were ego driven but Hector was the only one that acted with great mind and pure heart at sync.
"Oh my God for the first time ever, Paris is right!" ...yeah that's what I was saying like, Hector died and apparently passed some common sense on to his little brother in death because for once Paris was the one making the smart argument to NOT bring the horse inside the walls. xD
I used to love this movie, now it just feels like one long story dedicated to Hector's torture.
"If they ever tell my story let them say I walked with giants, men rise and fall like the Winter wheat but these names will never die... Let them say I lived in the time of Hector, tamer of horses...let them say I lived in the time of Achilles..." Odysseus
Great reaction. It wasn’t in the video but I absolutely love the line from achilles when he is fighting Hector and Hector trips on the rock making him vulnerable. Achilles basically says “Get up son of Troy, I won’t let a rock take my glory”
Such a great line of dialogue
This is simply an epic.
The story of Troy, and Achilles, .the Spartans is just so fascinating to me
The character at the end, Aeneas, who is given the sword of Troy, is actually very important connection between the greeks and the Romans. The story of Aeneas continous with him being the founder of Lavinia, that is the proto-city of Rome. He he is cast as an ancestor of Romulus and Remus, according to the roman national epose The Aeneid, written by the roman version of Homer - Virgil.
Lmao at the end
"stay out of this paris!"
“The face that launched 1000 ships!“ That was Helen of Troy!
Don't know your Greek mythology do you?
Sean Bean has plot armor. No one can kill him in this movie. he doesn't even die in the follow up book.
Loved your attitude toward cowardly Paris throughout the whole reaction! And I'm still kind of disappointed that we never got an Odyssey sequel with Sean Bean....
Bean was perfectly cast, and it would’ve been amazing, but I don’t think it would match the more grounded and realistic tone of this film. The Iliad is a historical epic, they could work around it, but the Odyssey is a straight up fantasy story, you can’t do it justice if you strip it of those elements.
What are you on, Achilles and Patroclus were biological first cousins. Patroclus is the son of Menoetius, the brother of Peleus (Achilles’ father). The whole “they were lovers” angle is just very recent fan fiction.
What are you on? Achilles and Patroclus were biological first cousins. Patroclus is the son of Menoetius, the brother of Peleus (Achilles’ father). The whole “they were lovers” angle is just very recent fan fiction.
Peter O'toole, who played the father, notoriously said this movie was all about the hair. 😆 it was one of his last films.
One of his last films? The man lived for another decade and made a dozen films after Troy. 😅
I have come back a year later to see I am the comment King for this video. Thanks guys I really needed a win today! Remember gents don't be like Paris.
The original script included the line: "He's a loose cannon, that Achilles."
I guess they left their cannons at home.
Your reaction to this is my all time favorite of ANY reaction I have watched.
Hector would be a true king of kings, if he had the opportunity.
The Trojan war an epic event of myth and legend was one of the most tragic of conflicts of the ancient world. Even in its aftermath was the treacherous journey of the king of Ithaca's (Odesseus) years long quest to reach the shores of his beloved home following the war.
Achilles was a Demi God, he was immortal, all except for his heel. In the Iliad Story, Paris's arrow was guided by The Sun God Appolo to hit Achilles in his only vulnerable spot.
You would def enjoy the Starz tv series "Spartacus" Its a great watch!!!!
Or the original film Spartacus with Kirk Douglas and a fantastic cast! .... Directed by Stanley Kubrick!
Está es la película que podría ver todos los días por el resto de mi vida, me encanta completamente
Yeah so as they've already said in the comments the term "achilles tendon" comes from the greek mythology where achilles was bathed in a lake that made him immortal but his mother held him by the heel and so his heel remained mortal. This movie depicted it perfectly by making the shot his demise, since that first shot made him a still target for the next ones: at least in that circumstance, it was achilles weak spot
I think they were just trying to show how the myth started because when others found his body only the arrow in his tendon remained.
For more historical drama/action, checkout Kingdom of Heaven (2005), also starring (ironically) Orlando Bloom. The backdrop is legendary ruler and general Saladin and his attempts to retake Jerusalem, which was lost to the Christians in the Crusades decades earlier.
Achilleas' grave was at snake island, nowadays an island of Ukraine. There were there also the ruins of Apollon temple
so one thing the movie didn't do appropriately was the Achilles-Patrocles relationship. they are not cousins. they are lovers. it explains so much more of the 'rage of achilles' as it is said in the first line of the iliad.
in Hommers Iliad (book about troy) it is said that apollo takes shape as paris and kills achiles for disrespecting apollos statue at the begining of beach attack
It has been decades since I read the Iliad, but as I can recall, the war between the Greeks and the Trojans lasted nine (9) years! This film presentation concludes with the Greek victory after only three (3) weeks or so! Though this is a Hollywood production, this movie still follows the "spirit" of the Iliad poem, and in that respect, it has its own truth!
According to myth/legend, the boy that Paris gave the sword to was Aeneas and he led the Trojans away and eventually founded the city of Rome and by extension the whole Roman Empire.
Many say Achilles wasn't real, yet it is well documented that Alexander the Great visited his tomb outside the ruins of Troy during his campaign in that area.
@CapedInformer The movie troy is based on the Homer novels, the Iliad and the odyssey. It was required reading in the sixth grade in my generation. I am 77 years old. The greatest two novels ever on Greek with Ology. As far as Troy staying true to the Iliad, What you saw was just a condensed version of the war, and why it happened without the backstory of Achilles. If you enjoy reading, you will truly enjoy homers, Iliad, and the odyssey!
30:55 HECTOOOOOOR!!!!
Some Trojan: “The person you have called, is temporarily not available!”
My favorite movie to this day. Watched it for the first time when I was about 6 years old. Now I'm 23 and I still love it.
I remember watching that Movie in History Class when I was 12. Great Movie
I totally thought the same thing about Hector's wife. Stunning ♥️
Sprinkling that logic and intuition on us ay 😂❤ lot of what you said this reaction were full of wisdom
The one thing I know that is different from the movie is that aggamemnon was killed in his bath by his wife shortly after returning
Pitt is really good in the movie "Fury" also
I've been in love with this movie since I was 12, it's been almost 2 decades and I still find interesting new things in the story and the characters. When I was younger I was pretty mad that Priam never listened to Hector and I still don't agree with the way he's going about it, I still think he should listen to Hector, but I now understand that he's essentially just doing what has worked for him and his country so far, which is to trust in the omens and the gods and while I'm not religious and I can't relate to that idea, I get why he's doing it, it has worked for the decades that he's been king and it's probably also what has worked for his father before him so if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? Unfortunately it was broke but he didn't see that, or didn't want to see it.
"How many batallions does de sun god command" is a play on a phrase attributed to Stalin, when it was suggested to him that the Pope might appreciate his ceasing to oppress Catholics in Russia, Stalin scoffed, "The Pope? How many divisions has he got?" implying that the Vatican's army of zero could hardly stand up to his army of millions. Stallin was wrong, Hector was right.
Went to the movies to watch Troy in 2004 (sigh i was still young) and it was very cool, i miss those days where movies were made to be good and entertaining
Laughed a lot while you're trash talking Paris
One of the few movies that Sean Bean makes it out alive it lol
He survived silent hill and national treasure lol
@@CYB3R2K 1. Sharpe (1993-2008)
2. Troy (Wolfgang Petersen, 2004)
3. National Treasure (Jon Turteltaub, 2003)
4. Silent Hill (Christophe Gans, 2006)
5. Silent Hill: Revelation (M.J. Bassett, 2012)
6. The Martian (Ridley Scott, 2015)
7. Ronin (John Frankenheimer, 1998)
8. Back Beauty (Caroline Thompson, 1994)
9. Percy Jackson & The Olympians: The Lightning Thief (Chris Columbus, 2010)
10. Flightplan (Robert Schwentke, 2005)
11. Pixels (Chris Columbus, 2015)
12. When Saturday Comes (Maria Giese, 1996)
13. Jupiter Ascending (Lana Wachowski/ Lilly Wachowski, 2015)
Movies he’s survived in
Movie is a MASTERPIECE
Hector is the f*cking man! He's everything you would want your king, brother, prince and yourself to be. Too bad Achilles was born from a godess
Bro I’ve been waiting on this one for the longest. Definitely one of my favorite movies. Great reaction! Glad you enjoyed it. ✊🏽
Eric Bana does great in this, Brad Pitt is one of my fav actors but I think Bana steals the show. His character is so honorable. Hope you see 12 monkeys starring Brad Pitt & Bruce Willis which is my fav performance by bruce
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the spartans from 300 looked up to achillies, that shows h0w great he was.
Great movie . The Greek Mythology is always interesting. Hallmark has two great movies about it The Oddessy and Hercules. I would also recommend Prince of Persia 2010 . Also The Count Of Monte Cristo 2002
You would actually recommend the abomination that was the Prince of Persia movie?
@@Ronfost89 The Prince of Persia is the best video game adaption movie ever made. Hell yes I recommend it.
I love the Paris roasting lmao
the hector achilles fight is one of the best fights in a movie. great story telling, you can see the moment achilles goes from playing with his food to ending it and all of that. achilles wasn't trying at the start he was just showing how much of a better fighter he is.
The Illiad followed by the Odyssey . . . . . so many achetypes and images from these stories. Written by the blind poet Homer. The only piece of literature older is the Epic of Gilgamesh. Amaxing pieces of human history.
Just imagine how many other pieces of literature that were out there that were lost to time.
It's one of our stories. Glad you enjoyed it. It's very old. I thought it was a good re-telling.
There are extra scenes in here than what I watched as a kid!! Thank you so much for the extended stuff!
i was waiting this movie reaction since i discover your channel man, and was great, Hector is an inspiration for men, a true hero. grettings from Argentina
so Achilles cut the head off the statue of Apollo after taking the beach, well in The Iliad, Apollo guided Paris' arrow into Achilles' heel or something like that, the only spot he could be wounded
"As long as it's the hands of a Trojan, our people have a future." The myth continues that the Trojans left Troy and founded a city on 7 hills, a city that would grow to become more powerful than any the world had ever seen before that point, one that would go on to conquer not just Greece, but the entirety of the Mediterranean Sea. From Iberia to Asia minor, from Britain to Egypt.
They only saw the one arrow and thought that was Achilles only vulnerable body part and named it Achilles tendon. Crazy!
The Iliad, which this is loosely based on actually ends at Hectors death. But In the continuation, Achilles dies via Paris while storming the gates of Troy BEFORE they build the Trojan horse.
16:06 If you don’t release her, you’ll never see the outside of that ROOM again!!
Achilles' mom dipped him in the River Styx when a baby. He could not be killed in battle except by a blow to is achilles heel because that's how his mother held him in the water.
The father of Hector and Paris was played by Peter O'Toole who was famous for Lawrence of Arabia.
No, Achilles was killed by Paris’ arrow, with the help of Apollo. Paris was later killed by a poisoned arrow himself.
remember only a king can kill another king NOONE else can or they will be killed
look up the true story of the trojan war. The city was thought to be a myth but it was finally found. The war lasted 10+ years and Odysseus had a huge voyage on his way home from this war too.
"Anyone but Paris..." 🤬
That's exactly what I think too, every time I watch this movie.
Awesome reaction. 👌🏻👍🏻
Another good movie that shows more range of Brad Pitt is "Legands of the Fall". Anthony Hopkins has a good roll in that too.
I can’t believe he thought Hector killing Menelaus for protecting Paris is what doomed them twice 😂. It’s not like Fifty thousand Greeks came there to watch two princes fight and then just go back home after 😂. They were charging no matter what lol
Hector didn't kill Menelaus in the real story. Menelaus returned back to Sparta with Helen after the war.
You know you can't fight him head on! Why you gotta bow?
Paris: uhhhh thats why!
I always wanted to see Uruk Hai berserkers on siege ladders go over the walls of Troy.
SO good. Great movie and a great reaction. Well done!!
Think of the ending this way....That wasn't Paris that killed Achilles, it was Legolas....feel better?
Noticed the dog at the start.. so kudos for getting the longer version, it’s a bit better than the theatrical
Well I feel the movies namesake achieved one thing, for ages his name is remembered, by his tendon that was injured,"ACHILLES TENDON!" HAAAAAA....!!!!!
In the story "Aeneid" it tells the story of Aeneas, a Trojan who fled the fall of Troy and lead the survivors on a journey that eventually took them to Italy where they founded the city of Rome
In this film he's given the sword of Troy
I totally forgot Garret Hegland was in this ( achilles cousin) now i think i gotta rewatch Four Brothers with Wahlberg.
"Not even as an archer" 🤣 shootin' him down
That clap in the end is well deserved. I love that last dialogue spoken
in the end, apollo did see and he gave achilles punishment.
there's only 3 characters who get it through out the movie they know the way it all plays out, Hector, Achillies, and Odysseus 2 of the best warriors in the world and the story teller who understood the landscape of the fate they were given. True philosopher kings. honorable, logical, masculine, and wise beyond those around them. Achillies was dipped in the magical juices of the gods by his heel leaving him vulverable there as the legend states so Hector was the best warrior of man and Achillies was the best warrior of the demi gods. But thats all legend. I just love that there is a mutual respect and an understanding of the death delt.
3:27 "Wives are for breeding." 🤣 I guess it's kinda true. But I think it's messed up to think of them that way.
Interestingly, Achilles and Ajax (or at least their namesakes) did fight together in another major battle, albeit more than 3000 years after the Greek's war with Troy. In December 1939 the allied light cruisers HMS Ajax & HMNZS Achilles (along with the heavy cruiser HMS Exeter) took on the German pocket battleship Admiral Graf Spee in the Battle of the River Plate off the Atlantic coast of South America. The 1956 movie "Battle of the River Plate" starring Peter Finch as the Graf Spee's captain & Anthony Quayle as the British squadron commodore is a pretty good movie.
Considering The Iliad was written around the 8th century BCE, and modern dating estimates the war to be set around 1260-1180 BCE, it really shows the quality of the story in that the names of so many of its characters have been remembered & used for thousands of years.