P1 Shamsi has a discussion with an honest christian Speakers Corner Hyde Park
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i converted to islam from Judaism, it's truly the only way to the creator, its soo clear, even with my past research, know that prophet Mohammad in the oldest scriptures known to man , his name is there, and he was prophesied, many, many times, but my anncesestors did the most wicked thing ever by trying to rewrite the bible and the Torah, i pray to allah to guide my Israelites brother's to get back to allah, even in the hidden history or lost history, we know 70% of the biblical Israelites converted to islam during the rise of islam, thanks to allah.
I have researched all 3 Abrahamic Religions and found Islam to be the True Religion of God. As for Judaism it is all about the Chosen People and is almost racist as you cannot be a Jew unless you are descended from one of the Twelve Children of Israel. Judaism fails to satisfy the essential criteria of a religion by requiring external obedience to moral laws, having a secular focus, and lacking a concern for immortality.
Furthermore Judaism also lacks a belief in an afterlife which is actually necessary for human ethical behavior in this life.
And as for Christianity it is an almost idolatrous religion as they lack the principle of the One, True God with no partners. Christians had to follow One God, but they have made God multiple, not singular. And not to mention many of the internal consistencies and errors contained within the Bible. Many Christians try to combat this problem by selectively interpreting each verse according to the context of the verse, but critics argue that the selective invocation of portions of the Old Testament is hypocritical, particularly when those portions endorse hostility towards women and homosexuals, when other portions are considered obsolete. There are also hundreds of versions of the Bible, whereas only one version of the Quran.
This is the one of the many reasons why I chose to reject Christianity. And the reason why I chose Islam is because in the Old Testament it is mentioned: "God said to Moses, on whom be peace: “I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.” (The Holy Bible, New International Version, Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 18). The prophet described in the above verse must have the following three characteristics: 1. He will be like Moses. 2. He will come from the brothers of the Israelites, i.e. the Ishmaelites(Muhammad SAW was an Arab). 3. God will put His words in the mouth of that prophet and he will declare what God commanded him.
CONCLUSION: Muhammad was the Chosen One
AIRLINERS WEB For you to give your story publicly carries more weight than most born Muslims.
fuck u !!
thank you for sharing , may allah bless you my freind
@@yahudimajnoon shame on you
Brother welcome to the light
TABARAKA ALLAH
I love the way Shamsi says "logic dictates" Masha'allah😂😂
Andesha R 🤣
SubHanaLaah me too sister .
LOGIC DICTATES 😂
Take care of yourself..
Seems like a proper sincere man. Respect to the brother.
May Allah (SWT) grand this brother Hadaaya
Ameen
shamsiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii saharan lion , may ALLAH SWT preserves you and protect you from any type of evil and calamity
That guy seemed sincere but you could see That he was speechless. Shani answered and explained so well. My goodness, I'm muslim and even I was shook, MashaAllah.
You have to join the Salafiyyah, brother. The Salafi brother will give you a strong back to be able to live sin free, but also they will provide you sincere, true knowledge about Islam. Shamsi, I love him for Allah. First I didn't like the idea to have a Salafi Muslim like Shamsudin in a wild speakers corner like that, but I changed my mind a bit. His Dawah is the best Dawah in that speakers corner park, cause it is a Salafiyyah Dawah.
@@PrizrenaliZH I'm not saying this is fact but yk other dawah (Ali dawah and Muhammad hijab) ppl say the salaafi are like ISIS but not violent or something. Also I saw Muhammad hijabs video on how the salafi mistreat revert women who are vulnerable since they dont have mahram
Some falsely claim that the Qur'an has been copied from the Bible.
One single verse from The Qur'an Chapter 10:92 destroys this false claim.
Had the Qur'an been copied from the Bible then story of Pharaoh in the Qur'an would have ended where Bible ended, that is the Pharaoh drowned and died in the red sea, THE END (Exodus 14), but The Qur'an continues with the story of Pharaoh, Qur'an chapter 10:92 claims that the body of Pharaoh who was already dead for nearly 2000 years will be preserved and be a sign for those who comes after him, which Bible fails to mention. And the body of Pharaoh was preserved and was discovered in the 18th century, 1200 years after the verse was revealed in the Qur'an and today it is in a museum in Egypt. This proves that the Qur'an has not been copied from the Bible, Qur'an is the revelation of The God cause it is not humanly possible to know the future of Pharaoh who died nearly 2000 years ago. Only God has that knowledge cause He is All Knowing.
When you hurl truth against false, it knocks its brain out.
Islam has nothing to do with Jews n christians
Ie Old testament prophets n New testament prophets
They are not muslims , ur religion n ur prophet lied n u r stil believing it .
I hope u r educated one go to history who is abraham isaac jacob n Israelites.... They r Jews still today they r same they are worshiping the same God .
But quran says abraham is nor Jew nor Christan which is false
Coz never christians said he is christian, he is Hebrew...
To make his religion universal he said to Jews our Lord n your lord is same , n 17 months he prayed with them facing jerusalem , he is hypocrite....
My question is who is allah did Muhammed saw him , do he know who he is ?
The answer is noooooo
Where as in Judaism n Christianity we r aware of God it's not blind faith
Quran says Aaron is brother of mary, so moses n mary are brother n sister
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@@udayakiran8965 judging by your name and comment, you dont even speak arabic, yet you are somehow throwing accusations on the book written in arabic. Brother and sister in arabic can refer to lineage, so in case someone's name is Samuel John, you can say: "oh brother of John" meaning someone from that lineage.
@T I What kinda proof do you want? Because proofs and evidences that convinces me might not convince you. My proofs and evidences are Quran. Documentary on CZcams ''Miracles of the Quran'' ''Science in Quran'' ''Dr Maurice Bucaille and Pharaoh'' if one carefully and with an open mind examines the Quran then they will be convinced beyond reasonable doubt that the Quran is not the words of a man but divine revelation and it is what it claims to The Words of God.
@T I it says in the Quran, that is my proof.
This is how discussions and conversations should be mashallah. May Allah guide the sincere brother
May Allah guide this man to the haq.
+That Guy,
Allah as Muslim's know him doesn't exist and Mohammad is dead.
Amiin....
Respect to shamzi daughter. Not even six and knew 5 chapters mashallah
i have so much respect for this christian man... he seems very discerning .. may allah guide him !
Concept of God in Islam:
Say: "He is Allah, the One and Unique;
Allah, Who is in need of none and all are in need of him.
He neither begot any nor was He begotten,
and none is comparable to Him."
Quran Surah [112]
+i19alah,
The concept of Jesus in Christianity.....Jesus claimed divine status. He asserted that he had ALL AUTHORITY in the entire universe (Matt.28:18), that he would sit on God's highest possible throne (Matt.25:31; Mark 12:36; Luke 20:42-43), ruling over absolutely everything (Matt.11:25-27; Luke 10:21-22; John 3:35; 13:3; 16:15).
+i19alah,
Would you like to put those assertions to the test?
Sean Van Pelt
This is why when he was hungry he didn't get any figs from the tree !!!
+i19alah,
Hi brother....Could you answer a few questions for me please?
+Jacques de Wet,
I doubt it too....and Shamsi is a sham. He is intellectually dishonest. Shamsi like most Muslims at SC are great at polemics but very poor when it comes to apologetics.
بارك الله فيك اخي
Masha Allah my brother shamsi may allah grant to you janah your lion of Islam
I always liked these types of dialogues, its also educational to the viewer 👍🏽
Inshallah this brothers heart opens up to Islam he seems like a genuine human and a kind soul.
This gentleman speaks very wisely. His intellect is high and he is able answer questions without given direct directions
This is what we call discussion.
I like the way this brother articulates his points
When Bob the liar and Hatoon the cartoun see this video, they won't sleep for days!
I love this guy shamsi is talking to. He is very sincere and open to talk. He has no hate in his heart whatsoever from what I can see. Usman values truthfulness which will eventually lead him to become muslim in sha allah
Beatiful calm discussion
Very respectful and calm person this Christian this what called debate hear and breath then talk not poison others with rude eyed and sarcasm it's a actually low level!as how some visitors do with the Muslim brothers !
Shamsi really I love you. ❤️❤️
May Allah love you more
This is a very good man may Allah guide him
Shamsi شمسي 💜
May allah bless him great guy
Bro.shamsi that guy are smart enough to think the truth.subhallah...
A Book which We have revealed unto thee,in order that thou mightest lead mankind out of the depths of darkness into light by the leave of thier Lord.(QS Ibrahim: 1)
14:00 shamsi is being like,,,I need to pet this beard a little bit so that I would concentrate more 😂😂
He cannot have beard naturally heheh.. he said that mashaallah in some of the videos.. Allah didnt gave him a abillity to have a long beard heh alhamdulillah
May Allah guide this man
What was the name of this book please?
Shamsi questions the validity of the writing of Moses because the earliest found manuscript that we have is 1000 years after Moses, but using that logic the Quran account of Moses would be even less reliable because it was written even further from the time of Moses and is a recitation of one man that came after the canon was produced, so that understanding doesn't seem wise. You would have to also take in consideration that other prophets who wrote other books of the Old Testament, Jesus, and the disciples who authored the New Testament, all agreed with the Moses and the writings of the Old Testament, so if the Quran doesn't agree with the Old Testament teachings then who should we believe, all the other prophets or Muhammad?
Shamsi is partly correct. Mormons believe father, son and ghost are three separate divine beings with their own unique histories; in fact, they are three separate Gods that come together to form their ‘Godhead’. Shamsi rarely puts a foot wrong.
The most part of bro Christians(Allah guide they) more pray for God(swt) and adorate they, but pray for Jesus(p.b.u.h.) to forgive them but is rare they pray to holy spirit, are for they just like a force/or a power of God than the his third god, for some christians have more a dualism or two gods than three gods or true trinity
+Yaz Says,
FYI.....Mormons are not Christian, regardless.
Sean Van Pelt I didn’t say they were Christian, merely just pointing out their ideology.
+Yaz Says,
Yes, thank you. I realize that....no hard feelings. Just trying to make a point. Muslims love to use fringe so-called "Christian" beliefs just to confuse unsuspecting Christian's who don't know any better.
+Yaz Says,
I wish I could find a Muslim who could or would actually debate me.....
Can some tell me was the Quran made into a book when Prophet Muhammad was still alive?
@Feel the pain !!!.... you feeling the pain?
He is actually right mormons don't believe in the trinity
I cannot hear the word trinity anymore!!!
Can some body tell me about what Shamsi said about Prophet lut (AS) ? I did not quite get it clearly. He does not believe in what is written in Bible about the Incident ? What he said about logic ?
The bible created a lie against lut a.s. It says he got drunk and slept with his daughters. Logic dictates that god would not chose a prophet that does such a heinous crime as people would not listen to his message. We believe as muslims the prophets were all honoured and sinless people who were only capable of minor mistakes. This is part of the reason the Quran was revealed. To debunk the lies of the prophets in the previous books that people changed. Theres many other stories like this, were the people who changed the words of the books dishonoured the prophets.
There is many pages delete from inside my Bibles!! Why?
نريد ترجمة
If Allah speaks to us through the messengers how did the speakers and messengers get the message in the first place?
He's leading the conversation so he already has an upper hand
So therefore if this is what he is saying then should he not be a Jew? As the message from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were Jewish. Jesus was a Jew. Or is someone going to tell me that they were all Muslim???? :)
mormons "do not believe in the trinity concept..they are separate beings united in purpose...they comprise the godhead." so kinda do but kinda dont. there can be a million and a half interpretations of trinity because it is so incoherent lol
this guy dont have any idea what he’s talking about. funny man
This guy not tryna find truth. He tryna avoid it so he can be who he wants to be.
He would of already accepted islam if what he said at the beginning about accepting the truth was true.
If he was a truth seeker, he seems educated, why does he call himself a christian and say he follows christianity?
The guy clearly has intelect, he would never of said he was a christian if he was a truth seeker.
Most people are TRUTH AVOIDERS and will do anything to live their lives to there own will.
he is opposite of godwin,hatun lizzy......
Just focus on the guy with the light blue shirt😂
My man just listening carefully what’s wrong with that?
Why the holy Spirit not making trinity clear to the Christian people?
Mormons do believe in the trinity, what is this man talking about. I used to go to their church because I just wanted to support a visitor who was brought to the country by them then they started coming to my door without notice. Even my friend dumped them and he's learn about Islam at the moment.
Part 2?
mormons believe in the trinity? I thought that was a catholic thing?
when Shamsi feels ashamed he does not let the guy debunk him :D this video is brilliant :DDD
Google said nooo....they dont. Believe in 3
I googled it too: yess they believe in the unbelievable trinity doctrine
19:22
This guy is playing around, he thinks he's too smart for his own good. I can smell the "humble arrogance" through my phone screen.
Allâh! Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists). Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse 2:255 is called Ayat-ul-Kursî]. Translated by Al-Hilali and Muhsin Khan. And Muhammed (pbuh) said Ayat-ul-Kursî is the greatest ayah in the Qur'an.
At @5:30 when the brother said "Mormons don't believe in Trinity."
He is wrong. Mormons do believe in Trinity:
In orthodox Mormonism, the term God generally refers to the biblical God the Father, whom Latter-day Saints sometimes call Elohim, and the term Godhead refers to a council of three distinct divine persons consisting of God the Father, Jesus (His firstborn Son, whom Latter-day Saints sometimes call Jehovah), and the Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit). Latter-day Saints believe that the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost are three distinct beings, and that the Father and Jesus have perfected, glorified, physical bodies, while the Holy Ghost is a spirit without a physical body. Latter-day Saints also believe that there are other gods and goddesses outside the Godhead, such as a Heavenly Mother who is the wife of God the Father, and that faithful Latter-day Saints may attain godhood in the afterlife. Joseph Smith taught that God was once a man on another planet before being exalted to Godhood
He said his very pandantic in his research.. I don't think he is at all.
If he was he would know that Mormons actually do believe in the trinity, but not in the traditional way that a trinitard does.
ربي يهديه ..... الغريب ان المسيحيين ياخذون وقت للرد على اهم شيء في العقيدة و هو من هو ربك ؟ ...... ربي يصلحنا. و يثبتنا على دين الاسلام.... الله اكبر
Mormon's do believe in the trinty but its in a different level of the christianity,they believe one othe trinity is more powerful than the the other 2,while Christianity believe its all one and its powerful together.
Brother Shamsi is right, the Mormons believe in the trinity
If you're an honest Christian you know that you don't have the original writings of the Old Testament what was revealed to Moses and you don't have the original writings. what was revealed to Jesus peace be upon them both.
Discussion drifts into irrelevance towards the end. Shamsi shouldn't have brought Muslim Scholars into it.
1st Rule of Dawah: Do not discuss subsidiary issues UNTIL you have agreement on Tauheed.
Good decent and respectful dialogue. Sam Dawah, I pray you encounter the living Jesus Christ who came that you might have life and life to the fullest and who loved you enough to give his life for you that you could know God and spend eternity w/ Him forever! You would make a great evangelist one day if God revealed to you the full revelation. I know your doubts are there and most likely it will take a powerful real encounter with Him but I pray for that day nonetheless. God bless!
Mormons do believe in the trinity
Is it racism
rom original scripture as latest n last revelation do not take lightly when our creator sent message...
our creator ask every Muslim spread the last revelation for humankind what about the
purpose the reason creator create us ,to avoid all us unknown what we doing here on earth..just read the last revelation n open your heart to accept our creator with hope happy ending,just read this verse from origin quote from revelation that it .
The name of ALLAH as almighty CREATOR the merciful and beneficent.
QUOTES OF REVELATION
"And your God {Allah] has the perfect sentence (Al-Qur-an), (verse) is true and just ..." [Al-An'aam: 115]
ISLAM IS A RELIGION of ADVISE from our creator as almighty god[Allah] the ADMINISTRATION OF universe
Based on all the prophets and past messengers // There is no God other than ALLAH
GOD The ultimate absolute owner of the creators of all beings and the universe
Islam means = infinite, full submission to the author of the Almighty as the name of God (Allah)
God Almighty creator says in Al Quran
وما خلقت الجن والإنس إلا ليعبدون
"And I [Allah] did not create jinn and men except to worship Me. {Allah]" (QS Adz Dzariyat: 56).
Allah SWT says:
إن الدين عند الله الإسلام
Indeed religion in the sight of Allah is Islam ... [Ali 'Imran / 3: 19]
Allah SWT says:
ومن يبتغ غير الإسلام دينا فلن يقبل منه وهو في الآخرة من الخاسرين
And anyone seeking a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted, and in the hereafter he is among the losers. [Ali 'Imran / 3: 85]
Allah SWT says:
أفغير دين الله يبغون وله أسلم من في السماوات والأرض طوعا وكرها وإليه يرجعون
"So why do they seek religion other than the religion of Allah, but what is in the heavens and the earth is subject to Him, WILLINGLY or UNWILLINGLY, and to Him they will be returned?" [Ali 'Imran: 83]
from original scripture as latest n last revelation do not take lightly when our creator sent message...
Allah SWT says ا ليوم اكملت لكم دينكم وا تممت عليكم نعمتي ورضيت لكم الاسلام دينا. Today, I have perfected for you your religion, and I have perfected my favors unto you, and I have reduced Islam to religion for you.
(QS Al-Ma'idah: Verse 3)
Jesus said he came to die for sins lol GTFOH
Subhana Allah connect me love you much mother father sister brother lslam) no God bathroom say donkey Hollywood Bollywood ww bathroom B4 Bible) but Allah rasool 👍
He's arrogant and doesn't believe that he's research could possible be wrong
Muslims believe in mother Mary why is this guy butting in
Feel The Pain !!! We do not believe in mother mary? ??????
@@sojhailamuhammad6797
Yes we do
There is a full in the quran chapter named after her name
Feel The Pain !!! I know that im speakong of those who worship ( mother mary)
@@sojhailamuhammad6797
Oh , ok .
Mahmoud Ahmed yes there are Christians catholics who worship Jesus mother mary as a god. Thats what I was referring to .
Does Shamsi realise that the very same author of the book he handed over Misquoting Jesus states that the crucifixtion of Jesus is a FACT of of history mmmm i wonder if he would reccomend that book knowing this🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@moe shaak so you believe there was a crucifixtion,so who was on the cross ?.
Countless historians including christian, jewish,secular,roman & greek historians past & present all state that the crucifixtion of Jesus of Nazareth under the rule of Pontius Pilate is a fact of history.
If your saying that because the quran says it was made to appear that Jesus was crucified by allah then allah is responsible for the biggest religion in the world🤣🤣🤣
Gospel of Mark, Quran made it clear by saying it was made to appear so, however, crucifixion is to die on the cross or tree by hanging or nailing and my question is was Jesus(pbuh) tested by doctors to confirmed he was dead?. Secondly, Mary went to massage Jesus (pbuh) on the third day and the question is did Jews and Christians massage dead bodies?
@moe shaak which ones are fairytales ?
Gospel of Mark
Not one of the apostles were present, so how could they know?
You only know it from Hollywood films.
@@tegadeamohammedafra3734 so the roman soldier giving the death blow with a spear and blood and water flowed from Jesus side meant what ? . Can you please quote the passage about Mary going to massage Jesus ?
Muhammed himself said if u have any doubt then go to the ppl of scriptures.......(Jews n christians )
Quran 10:94
Also Muhammed said in His death bed , bring pen n paper to write...
So that u ppl man not go astary...
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 716:
Narrated Ibn Abbas:
Thursday! And how great that Thursday was! The ailment of Allah's Apostle became worse (on Thursday) and he said, fetch me something so that I may write to you something after which you will never go astray." The people (present there) differed in this matter, and it was not right to differ before a prophet. Some said, "What is wrong with him ? (Do you think ) he is delirious (seriously ill)? Ask him ( to understand his state )." So they went to the Prophet and asked him again. The Prophet said, "Leave me, for my present state is better than what you call me for." Then he ordered them to do three things. He said, "Turn the pagans out of the 'Arabian Peninsula; respect and give gifts to the foreign delegations as you have seen me dealing with them." (Said bin Jubair, the sub-narrator said that Ibn Abbas kept quiet as rewards the third order, or he said, "I forgot it.") (See Hadith No. 116 Vol. 1)
When they had quran in their hearts then is it not enough ?
You're heavily misinterpreted Quran 10:94, astagfirhulah
Is shamsi a honest Muslim. No
Why do you say this?
Look at his words compare to yours. Shame
Man Like Me Uno shamsi is an Algerian who is getting benefits for his family, he needs to get a job like us instead of talking rubbish, because I know most of Algerians are lazy to work, ask him about Mohamed marrying the wife of his adopted son
@@chakibelkasmi3086 being algerian has NOTHING. Do do with the topic at hand. It's pathetic that you can't come up with any answers or points, so you decide to be racist instead.
What a little bitch.
Who are you????
U can tell this man is searching the truth defo sincere