Some Problems Islam Has With The Qur’an
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So glad to see you still speaking about the Quran Sam!
Salam means also to be at peace , so to accept.
Well said
it's like speaking to people who don't understand your language you will only get frustrated
So I would say you should focus on things to say which people who listen to you understand
Excellent channel, God bless you! ❤ 🙏
Thank you for your work. It's extremely valuable and inspiring. May God bless us all and guide us to the Truth.
U make things easier to undestand. With logic & reason. It will be easier when one come with an emty cup. It is the preconceived ideas that causes difficulties
I really appreciate your work ! Please keep on doing your work ! May Allah SWT bless you
Salamun alaykum,
The problem is Muslims understand the Quran based on a biblical construct on the basis of it being an Abrahamic faith. While brand islam critiques sunni muslims' dependence on the traditions and hadiths, those narratives adopted biblical concepts, stories and themes that according to the Quran, are absolute lies (18:5, by the people who said the Almighty had begotten a son). However, these biblical themes and concepts remain with the Quran alone propagators. A careful and thorough inspection of the Quran as a standalone document would therefore uncover truths that would be nothing like what they wrote in the so-called bibles. The Quran stands above all else and should not be subject to any other literature or beliefs. Once we understand this, the Quran will yield its secret treasures.
Sam, happy to hear from you again, hopefully if you are still engaged in the research we would perhaps see a versuin 2.0, everytime we revisit the ayat a new well spring gushes out and renders an even deeper meaning.
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That's a good challenge.
Straight to the point! Thank you Sam! God bless you 🙏💖
Thank you 👍
Humans tend to look for God in other humans because they cannot see God. Sadly muslims have shifted the centre of islam from the quran to the life of Muhammad and his companions. Likewise the christians have shifted the centre of christianity to the body of Jesus.
Agreed. That’s if you even believe the Hadith is at all Mohammed and not just complete fiction
I have reservations, but if you search for Manly P. Hall’s speech on God, he mentions the 3 stages theology goes through.
Perfectly said. Been saying this for years but you said it perfectly
Very interesting as always, woke my mind up and brought it into peace and alignment finally. Quite intriguing, how the Quran repeatedly says in various verses including 45:6, in which narration (hadith) after the Quran will they believe? And how Sam pointed out that many people hold to all kinds of narrations (hadith) that are not quranic, ie the hadith
What’s even more scary is how in 45:6 the verse says, “in what narration (hadith) after Allah and his ayats (verses) will they believe?” Ie after the Quran
And then the very next verse reads in 45:7“woe to every sinful liar”
So 45:6 is a rhetorical question that we are not meant to answer. And anyone who answers yes to it, ie believers in other narrations in addition to the Quran, God is calling them a sinful liar in 45:7, so essentially God is saying anyone who believes in any narration besides the Quran alone is a sinful liar as far as knowing what to do to save your eternal soul, the Quran is enough, anything else seems risky and forbidden, ie it’s sinful to make anything divine and mandatory in addition to the Quran, only the Quran is divine
Thanks Sam for doing these short reminders of your vast work
Please do the reminders more often ❤
Thanks Sam, I really appreciate your work and dedication.
Enjoying these Quranic based videos again 😊
Salam. In verse 2:130, Abraham said "I submit to the Lord of the worlds."
In verse 3:20, Muhammad was commanded to say "I have completely submitted myself to Allah and so to those who follow me."
Peace Sam, would you consider making a video about the Torah/Previous scriptures, whether they are the same today as the time within which they were revealed? If we should reference/study them? Also, is there such a thing as the Sabbath/Shabbat in the Qur'an ?
Good job
There aren’t different flavors of Islam, just one, Quran is one. Those differences you speak of are political.
Nice reminder.
I don't think Islam or Muslim mean Submission or Submitter. It is a bit more nuanced than that. Since I have never read or heard anyone translate Salamum Alaykum to mean "Submission on to you", I don't understand why people keep saying Muslim = Submitter and Islam = Submission.
Even in Hebrew, before Prophet Muhammad, and to this day it is said: "Shalom aleichem" which they say means Peace be upon you.
Islam = To be at Peace (with God)
Muslim = Someone who is at peace (with God).
I can even accept "Peaceful acceptance" as long as the peace component is there. It's important because there can be no compulsion in The Way. Someone who submits out of fear can still mean Muslim if Muslim means "Submitter". Being in a state of peaceful submission/acceptance with God is an entirely different thing. Maybe that is what you eluded to when you said its a state.
Sam, ur doing the work of champions, and sadly in this era, we have a big shortage, lol.
May Allah make it easy for us to understand his message, and may Allah grant u a handsome reward for ur efforts, aameen
For each truth there’s literally countless alternatives. What began as One became Two. The muḥkam of scripture was unanimously agreed upon (first generation believers in Qur’an regarding a plain exoteric reading of scripture). The muḥkam are the cornerstone building blocks for both the individual and society. Impossible to corrupt early on. On the otherhand we have the mutashābih. There isn’t any convincing evidence the mutashābih even caused division amongst believers in early Islam. Life was for living, believers fulfilled their duties. The mutashābih is for personal reading or those with a specialised insight and knowledge for other purposes. Politics (power) and wealth corrupts. Within 2 centuries of the Prophet (عليه السلام) death, chaos ensues and the struggle for the nations soul begins. Many groups were formed, many others stamped out. It’s difficult to know for certain what took place. What we do know is during the Umayyad and Abbasid periods, the political powers began back projected their narratives and biases onto the Prophet (عليه السلام), Qur’an, companions, to justify their aims and actions. The muḥkam just became easier to corrupt via these later inventions. 1200 years later, we have 12 centuries of Islamic Star Wars in sectarianism, aqeedah and fiqh.
A big cognitive dissonance with the cubolaters is in the verse 19/18 « O sister of Moses » 😆
Cubolators?
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@@sumgue4964 yoga desert practitioners if you prefer
Nothing wrong with that verse.
@@Scumophobe absolutely. Indeed Jesus is Moses’s nephew
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Oh absolutely and Jesus is the baby of God 😂
I tried to gently talk about the Quran verses and was immediately told that we can’t understand the Quran alone because it needs years of learning and we need the hadith to understand the Quran but even then we can’t understand the Quran or hadith without either being explained by scholars. I’ve studied the Quran for five years and by Gods grace and mercy I haven’t found difficulties in understanding. But many traditional Muslims project the responsibility for their own guidance onto others, hardly use the Quran for guidance relying on hadith and block themselves from the Quran by denying that it has the capacity to guide them. They block themselves from reading the Quran, beyond Arabic recitation without pondering, and turn away from the Quran ordering others to turn away from it subhanallah… ironically I was told that it’s dangerous to read the Quran because I would be misguided to follow it alone and become a kafir. The irony didn’t evade me
TV the only Hadith that are truly problematic are the ones that try to define religion in ways the Quran has not.
Translation is not Qur'an nor is it synonymous with the Qur'an.
This is so basic it is said. The Muslims today will say sahadah because they follow the last prophet. Abraham wouldn't have said the shahdah because he wasn't following Muhammad since Abraham was a prophet himself before Muhammad. Anyone that followed Abraham would have had to testify Abraham was the prophet at that time.😂😂😂. This is an example of when people decide to speak with little knowledge 😂😂😂
Technically prophet Adam preceded Abraham, and God didn’t ask Abraham to pledge his witnessing of Adam’s prophethood.
Muslims are not tasked with “following” prophets. They’re tasked in following God’s rules and submit their will accordingly. That’s the point the ummah is sadly missing.
For me, those who follow the Shahada are hypocrites who try to deceive Allah and the believers. Unfortunately their deception is revealed by the Quran through the chapter The Hypocrites verse 1 (63:1).
Shahada testimony was created by Abu Hurairah (a Jewish tribe) who converted to Islam in the last 3 years of the Prophet's life. What about Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali converted to Islam? Do they use the same shahada? While the shahada of Abu Hurairah does not exist yet. How do you explain that?
وَجَـٰهِدُوا۟ فِی ٱللَّهِ حَقَّ جِهَادِهِۦۚ هُوَ ٱجۡتَبَىٰكُمۡ وَمَا جَعَلَ عَلَیۡكُمۡ فِی ٱلدِّینِ مِنۡ حَرَجࣲۚ مِّلَّةَ أَبِیكُمۡ إِبۡرَ ٰهِیمَۚ هُوَ سَمَّىٰكُمُ ٱلۡمُسۡلِمِینَ مِن قَبۡلُ وَفِی هَـٰذَا لِیَكُونَ ٱلرَّسُولُ شَهِیدًا عَلَیۡكُمۡ وَتَكُونُوا۟ شُهَدَاۤءَ عَلَى ٱلنَّاسِۚ فَأَقِیمُوا۟ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَءَاتُوا۟ ٱلزَّكَوٰةَ وَٱعۡتَصِمُوا۟ بِٱللَّهِ هُوَ مَوۡلَىٰكُمۡۖ فَنِعۡمَ ٱلۡمَوۡلَىٰ وَنِعۡمَ ٱلنَّصِیرُ﴿ ٧٨ ﴾
• Sahih International:
And strive for Allah with the striving due to Him. He has chosen you and has not placed upon you in the religion any difficulty. [It is] the religion of your father, Abraham. Allah named you "Muslims" before [in former scriptures] and in this [revelation] that the Messenger may be a witness over you and you may be witnesses over the people. So establish prayer and give zakah and hold fast to Allah . He is your protector; and excellent is the protector, and excellent is the helper.
Al-Ḥajj, Ayah 78
Read the Bible particularly How God asks the "chosen people" to kill innocent men,women, & children...Amalek....then realise the problem we as Believers have with your version of Gods Word/ the Torah and The Gospel..
Allah Ta 'ala will make you deaf and blind if your intentions were True and honest.
These are your problems in english ...no problem for us in arabic
Read the Hadith of Jabril
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In Holy Quran 2:261, And remember when Abraham said, ‘My Lord, show me how Thou givest life to the dead.’ He said, ‘Hast thou not believe?’ He said, ‘Yes, but I ask this so that my heart may be at rest.’ He answered, ‘Take four birds and make them attached to thyself. Then put each of them on a hill; then call them; they will come to thee in haste. And know that Allah is Mighty and Wise.’
Besides the afterlife, there is reference to 4 nations that shall rise and fall in ways know to Allah:
1. Nabi Musa was a Great law- bearing Prophet sent for the tribes of Israel with commandments and verities of wisdom that was suited for the Children of Israel at that stage of spiritual and physical requirements.
2. Prophet Isa (Jesus’ peace be upon Him) was the Messiah sent by God to guide the various Tribes of Israel according to the true teachings of the Torah and with the Gospel. He came about 1300 years after Prophet Musa.
3. The Holy Prophet Muhammed is the Last Great law -bearing prophet sent for the whole of mankind with blessings of spiritual guidance and signaling physical/ economic/ secular/technological blessings.
4. The Promised Messiah Nabi Ahmad was sent by God to guide people to the true teachings of the Holy Quran. In the time of the Promised Messiah there are various spiritual blessings and signaling physical/secular/economic/technological blessings. He arrived about 1300 years after the Holy Prophet.
No other Prophet after Nabi Muhammad Sallalahu alaihi wasallam....Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was delusional...he claims to be Nabi Isa Alaihi Salaam As well.....the British have thru the ages tried to corrupt Islam as they corrupted the Bible....to fit their political Agenda... Allah Ta'ala has promised to Preserve the Quran.
And Ahmadiasm is a money making political tool to corrupt weak Muslims... Only Allah Ta'ala will open your heart to true Faith...
Why is this man focusing on Islam....Study your own Holy Book you have all corrupted....So you are only a man...Quran cannot fully be translated or understood in English....the Arabic Language is way more intricate than English....The Glorious Qur'an will undoubtedly stand the Test of Time,Of Great Minds,of Powerful People.. look at the Haj or go to any Masjid....see how Muslims from different nations and different backgrounds and different man made Statuses...file up better than any trained army or navy ...as ONE Body....even coming from different lands and Pray in the same way....no one is Superior .to anyone and the Imam is the Best example who leads the prayer and the congregation can correct the Imam makes a mistake... where does this internal discipline come from..?..Ponder on that.
Related to no.4 above. In Indonesia, more than 10 years ago, there appeared 'a messenger' named Ahmad Musadeq from a group called Gafatar. Is Ahmad who was promised messiah, this person?
Nabi Ahmad ? Never heard of him .
I did some quick research and didn't find nothing, can you give me more context about him .
@@nino3908 try google 'Millah Abraham' or 'Gerakan Fajar Nusantara' (Gafatar) or 'Ahmad Mushaddeq' He and group members (more than 25 members) was charged with 'blasphemy' and 11 have spent time in prison.
Qadiani/ Ahmadi non muslims from India - Pakistan. Don’t believe in the last one.
Abraham (as)adhered to the minhaj (Islam Iman and Ihsan)as all of the prophet’s and messengers of Allah
Sam forgets that formalization of entry point in Islam is just a ritual. An issue out of non-issue.
I think you did not pay attention, Sam pointed to an ayat in the Quran, he was not merely citing his opinion. Perhaps you should listen to his vlog again.
@@ZIaIqbal , Yes the ayat is correct. Nobody is contesting it. So what's the issue?
@@greengalaxy8873 then the entry point that you are referring to is refuted as false by the Quran.
@@ZIaIqbal , The shahada is only a ritual, which I mentioned earlier. Nobody knows the mind of a person and true entry point except God. True education does not require schooling. Then why school certificates are required? The basis of marriage between a man and a woman ultimately lies in the physical relationship. Then why wedding cerrmonies are done? I am a top-notch accountant. Then why employers need to see my professional certificate? The true entry point is in the mind of the person. Shahada does not prove anything. It is just a formalization. Every one cannot be a "lone wolf'" muslim like Sam. People live in society.
@@greengalaxy8873 I think you missed the whole point that was being made in the video, the point is that Quran calls the people who are giving this shahada Kafirs or people who are hiding the truth, surprised 😯?
There are no problems nor conflicts. Know the minhaj (Islam Iman and Ihsan)of the Salaf
That exactly my friend, is what leads the traditional Muslims astray.
@@ZIaIqbal HOW? When this is what the Quran teaches
@@Gog3453 Quran teaches that guidance is directly from Allah, and the Muslims bring in the Salaf for guidance.
@@ZIaIqbal then know the guidance (Islam Iman and Ihsan)from Allah
@@ZIaIqbal and know the teachings of the Salaf
The Quran is not from heaven but is made by men.
Why is it such an issue saying God is one and Muhammad is His messenger? You believe both of those things and I see in no way how this constitutes shirk. I think this deconstruction is quite typical of modernism. To say Muhammad was simply a post man and that he is not worth following is to throw the baby out with the bath water.
Over 30 times, Somethkng resembling La ilaha ill Allah occurs in Quran- never once associating a man’s name w the creator. The only time it is found to bear witness to the prophet as a testimony , is found in surah munafiqoon.
63:1 When the waverers1 come to thee they say: “We bear witness that thou art the messenger of God.”2 But God knows that thou art His messenger, and God bears witness that the waverers3 are liars.
Also numerous times we can see in the Quran that Allah says the prophet was no more than a messenger and clear warner and upon him was only the notification.
46:9 Say thou: “I am no new thing1 among the messengers, and I know not what will be done with me or with you. I follow only what is revealed2 to me; and I am only a clear warner.”
22:49 Say thou: “O mankind: I am only a clear warner to you.”
26:115 “I am only a clear warner.”
29:50 And they say: “Oh, that proofs1 were but2 sent down upon him from his Lord!” Say thou: “The proofs3 are only with God, and I am only a clear warner.”
38:70 “It is only revealed1 to me, that I am a clear warner.”2
51:50 “So flee to God! I am to you from Him a clear warner!
51:51 “And make not with God another god! I am to you from Him a clear warner!”)
67:26 Say thou: “The knowledge is but with God; and I am only a clear warner.”
71:2 He said: “O my people: I am to you a clear warner:
7:184 Have they not reflected? Their companion is not possessed;1 he is only a clear warner.
Only the notification/warning:
3:20 And if they argue with thee, then say thou: “I have submitted my face1 to God, as have2 those who follow me.” And say thou to those given3 the Writ4 and to the unschooled:5 “Have you submitted?”6 And if they have submitted, then are they guided; but if they turn away, then upon thee is only the notification; and God sees the servants.7
5:92 And obey God and obey the Messenger,1 and beware;2 but if you turn away, then know that upon Our messenger is only the clear notification.
5:99 Upon the Messenger is only the notification; and God knows what you reveal and what you conceal.
16:82 And if they turn away, upon thee is only the clear notification.
21:106 In this1 is a notification for people who serve.2
24:54 Say thou: “Obey God and obey the Messenger.” Then if you turn away, then upon him is what he has been given to bear, and upon you is what you have been given to bear. And if you obey him,1 you will be guided. And upon the Messenger is only the clear notification,
29:18 “But if you deny, then communities have denied before you; and upon the Messenger1 is only the clear notification.”
36:17 “And upon us is only the clear notification.”
42:48 And if they turn away - We sent thee not as a custodian over them; upon thee is only the notification. And when We let man taste mercy from Us, he exults thereat; but if evil1 befalls them because of what their hands sent ahead, then is man ungrateful.
64:12 And obey God and obey the Messenger;1 but if you turn away - then upon Our messenger is only the clear notification.
“Say thou: “None will grant me protection against God, nor will I find, besides1 Him, a refuge
Save notification from God and His messages.” And whoso opposes God and His messenger, for him is the fire of Gehenna; they abiding eternally therein forever.” - 72:23
16:35 And those who ascribe a partnership1 say: “Had God willed, we would not have served, besides2 Him, anything - neither we nor our fathers - nor would we have forbidden anything contrary to3 Him”;4 thus did those before them. Then is there upon5 the messengers save the clear notification?
The rasool only spoke of and followed & judged bt what was revealed to him. And he only called using the Quran.
وَإِذَا ذَكَرْتَ رَبَّكَ فِى ٱلْقُرْءَانِ وَحْدَهُۥ وَلَّوْا۟ عَلَىٰٓ أَدْبَـٰرِهِمْ نُفُورًا
[17:46] We place shields around their minds, to prevent them from understanding it, and deafness in their ears. And when you mention your Lord, using the Quran alone,* they run away in aversion.
أَوَلَمْ يَكْفِهِمْ أَنَّآ أَنزَلْنَا عَلَيْكَ ٱلْكِتَـٰبَ يُتْلَىٰ عَلَيْهِمْ إِنَّ فِى ذَٰلِكَ لَرَحْمَةً وَذِكْرَىٰ لِقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ
Does it not suffice them that We have sent down upon thee the Writ1 recited to them? In that is a mercy and a reminder for people who believe.- 29:51
3:78 And among them a faction distorts the Writ1 with their tongues, that you might think it from the Writ,2 but it is not from the Writ.3 And they say: “It is from God,” but it is not from God. And they ascribe the lie to God, when they know.4
What’s shirk is the baggage that typically comes with “following” the prophet according to most Muslims. Hadith Qudsi for example literally claims to be the words of God outside of the Quran!
Not to mention the piles of Hadith that directly contradict the Quran. One of which is how the prophet will intercede for Muslims’ forgiveness on judgment day.
@@revertcoach818 I agree however I am not saying to follow them all I am saying to consider the ones that don’t contradict the Quran and have good sources. Not to reject them all but not to accept them all.
Even as Allah asks us, "Then in what hadith other than this (Quran) will you believe?"? Strange. A healthy fear of Allah, has me having a healthy fear of hadith literature. Sorry, if that is offensive. But it seems rather clear that we were warned against the collections of hadith books that would come, a few hundred years before they did. Look at us now. Are we really expected to believe in and defend what Allah has warned us away from?
@@Khal03 Hadith just means book. Does that mean you won’t believe anything in any other book? As long as you don’t take Hadith as the same authenticity as the Quran you are fine.
You are clueless, our friend in humanity. Ibrahim, aleyhi salam was a muslim, meaning, he submitted to the Will of Allah, as a matter of fact, every prophet and messenger and their followers were muslims.
Islam means, to submit, to surrender, to the obedience of Allah, to free yourself from shirk and its people.
In the Sharee‘ah of our beloved Prophet Muhammed, sallallaahu alehi wa salam, is to testify/witness that there is no one worthy of worship in truth except Allah and to testify/witness that Muhammed is the Messenger and the slave of Allah. This is the shahadah. Islam is built upon 5 pillars and the first one is shahadah.
Come to religion of all prophets and messengers, leave the hatred aside, and save yourself.
Your Lord is One God. Not 3 in one or 1in3, a pagan belief propagated by paul and the Churc fathers who were influenced by the Roman pagans.
Greetings from Scandinavia.
These man made religions and practicing shirk are the absolute worst, don't you agree? Peace and may God bless.
I don’t think you watched the video. You cannot justify what you wrote from the Quran
Dude, the so called religion that you refer to and the sharia that you talk about is all man made not based on the Quran.
You said, "Islam is built upon 5 pillars...". It's funny, when trying to check this, I could find no reference to these 5 pillars in the Quran. Did someone introduce shirk to this so-called submission to Allah?