Why So Few Americans Live In Oklahoma As Compared To Texas
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Oklahoma is just north of Texas. But despite sharing similar geographic features, Texas has grown at a much faster rate in terms of population and economy than Oklahoma. In the case of these two states, history and geography combine to create this unique scenario today.
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As a Oklahoman, I enjoyed you video about our state. A small correction concerning your reference to the "Oklahoma River". The actual river is the North Canadian river. The Oklahoma River is just a 7 mile section of the North Canadian that runs through the center of Oklahoman City and has only existed since 2004. You also gave me a chuckle concerning your pronunciation of Osage and Ouachita. Osage is Oh sage like the plant. Ouachita is pronounced Waa shee taw. (You also mispelled Ouachita.) It's okay, it takes a lot of Oklahomas a life time to properly pronounce a lot of the Native American influenced words you find throughout the state.
He mis-pronounced Caddo too. Sure am glad he didn't try Washita.
Can you please explain to me why they pronounce Miami, OK like my-am-uh? Texas import here, and it makes no sense to me.
@@laurasomebody like everything else he mentioned- it comes from the tribes. The Miami tribe pronounced it the way the Oklahoma town is pronounced rather than the way it is said in Florida and Ohio.
Phillips Petroleum’s HQ’s is in Bartlesville, OK.
Halliburton is HQ in Duncan, OK. My son works for them.
Oklahoma lost a lot of its population during the Dust Bowl. I'm surprised you didn't mention that.
THANK YOU! OKC WOULDVE EASILY BEEN AS POPULOUS AS DALLAS HADNT IT BEEN FOR THE DUST BOWL
The funny thing is since moving to Oklahoma myself a few years ago I have met tons of people that have moved here from California. We joke that there is a "reverse Grapes of Wrath" going on.
Between the 1930 and 1960 censuses, the population of Oklahoma declined 2.8%. The population peaked in 1931 at 2.4 million, and it would not crest that peak until 1962.
@@spicytuna62 because of the dust bowl
@@spicytuna62 i said okc not okla
All of the major oil companies were headquartered in Tulsa and nearby cities until the oil embargo in the 70s. In fact, Phillips Petroleum is the reason Bartlesville has an impressive skyline for its size.
Throw it up shady bville
As a Oklahoman, I can confirm we did the best job to keep people out of our state :)
...you're very misguided and incorrect.....a majority of rental properties are owned by investors who don't live here.....they'll rent to ANYONE, including illegals......and the ones who grew up here outside of oil/ag aren't impressive.....uneducated, skill-less, looking more broken, drug addicted, homeless....what about the people who've grown up here?..the next generation coming up here is a disaster.....
....A dozen right wing factions that will never unify.......that issue has yet to surface......this state's actually looking more and more dismal.....drive through OKC.....
You know, this URBAN SPRAWL and just building house and streets so one can build more Houses and Streets, is a Diminishing Returns set up. In Texas they are PAVING over all of the arable land with Concrete, and building LAKES on all of the prime Bottom Land that is really good farm land so the house buyers can Flush.. It is NOT sustainable. You cannot have Infinite Growth in a Finite place. Look at Arizona, for every 5 people that move in, three people move out, so they tell me.
- "the best job keeping the *best* people out" too
Exactly! Best go to Texas, we have nothing here (wink, wink). Not for people who don't appreciate nature or how to follow rules. Go to mesquite if you're looking for strip malls and restaurants
As a Texan, I give you a 👍. Don’t blame ya’ll a’tall.
Odd fact: Oklahoma is slightly bigger and more populous than the entire country of Uruguay.
So, they might stand more of a chance against the kangaroo invasion?
It’s like 9x larger than Israel
Everything Is BIGger in Texas 👀💯
@@homefartsnic INCLUDING the bugs 🤣
And it has more tornados and women incarcerated in that area than just about any other.
My great great grandfather came to Oklahoma on the Chickasaw Trail of Tears. I grew up in the D/FW area. Went to Oklahoma after I got out of the service. Got connected to my Chickasaw culture and raised a family with my wife. The slow pace of life agrees with me. I love it here. I love being involved with my tribe. It’s a great place to live if you have simple tastes and like a slow pace to your life.
Great comment❗️👍🏼
“Simple tastes and a slow pace of life”. This is what I often hear when I ask young people what they like about OKC since moving here. Also they say there are a lot of activities for twenty-somethings.
I couldn’t wait to get out of this “backwards” city (as I saw it) when I turned 18. I couldn’t stand the slow pace! I’m back now, and though I still find the drivers are much too slow for this Houstonian, the slower pace now suits me.
I’m not native to Oklahoma but have recently called it home. Its geography is actually amazing when you consider all the variety of environments we have here! There’s the alabaster caverns with deposits of some of the rarest gypsum in the world! There’s sand dunes, the majestic witchita and quartz mountians and so much more!! That being said we do also have terrible infrastructure, parks n rec scandals/underfunding, and one of the worst superfund sites in picher!
You should visit Broken Bow Lake, southeastern Ok. Near town of Broken Bow.
Spring fed deep lake in a valley of small mountains. Very clear and coke year round All in logging lands. Pines year round. Life long resident and most beautiful location imho. Best of luck!
Shhh...we don't need anyone coming here...lol
@parnassus804 lol please delete those comment. We don't need our secrets getting out
You could visit the Hickory Oak forest in the Cross Timber area. Walk down the driveway and you can go from pure sand to pure clay to natural gravel to huge slabs of rock! We have marker trees around here, too. They were created from young trees to point the way to important trails or water sources.
Agreed @@parnassus804 .. Not from here but been here nearly 35 Years and i've seen most parts of the state multiple times Luv Brokenbow area stayed @ beavers bend many times. I have seen a lot of the USA and must say Oklahoma is great . I consider myself a Naturalized Oklahoman and don't plan to ever leave =)
Correction: at 0:22, he says that the single city of Dallas has 7.6 million people. The city proper only has a population of 1.3 million people and the 7.6 million population is the entire DFW metroplex area.
Atlanta and Boston only have 500k Proper Residents while their metro areas are each between 6-7 million people. When people are talking about a metro area's population they typically only refer to the principal city.
No one outside of the Dallas area really cares about Arlington, Ft Worth, Frisco...etc. To outsiders its just all Dallas.
Same way in that people really don't care about the suburbs of massive cities like Atlanta, Boston, Dallas and Los Angeles.
Correct. Geoff is an id10t
Yup! It is the Metropolitan area that has over 7.6, actually over 8 million now in 2023. Dallas isn’t by itself. Fort Worth and Arlington are the other 2 major cities in the metro, in addition to several other smaller cities in the area. I live in Fort Worth, which is now the 12th or 13th largest city in the U.S., but most think the whole metro is Dallas if they’re not from here.
@@gr8myndmuzic yeah, i live in grand prairie and can relate 😭
@@gr8myndmuzic That’s because of Kennedy. They don’t know that the bulk of the population is in the northern suburbs. Collin and Denton Counties are growing like mushrooms, with the latter finally being to catch on like the former, Trends do not last but it is now being projected that in 50 years DFW will be the largest metro in the USA.
I really was surprised when I get to know Oklahoma has 4M population. It’s as populous as Oregon or Louisiana. To be fair, it’s still a fair amount of population for interior of the US , compared to the west coast Oregon or gulf coast Louisiana.
Yeah that's kind of a lot of people. I would've assumed it had half that amount
Oregon really doesn't have that many people especially for its size. And of those close to 75% of the entire states population is in the Portland metro
Honestly. I’m always surprised to hear there are 4 million people in Oklahoma. It always felt to me like a much smaller state. Like, what are those Oklahomans up to?
@@krisconrad1051 Portland is a disgrace to Oregon.
Louisiana has about half of the dry land as Oklahoma.
I live in Oklahoma and the last statement is true. Families don’t really leave Oklahoma and it’s almost a tight knit community. Every family has history of Indians and even my kids are registered Cherokee. Such an interesting state and glad to be here. Tulsa!
Hey fellow Okie!
I had dreams of moving to Colorado or Washington right after college, but I don't know...I grew up here. I've spent basically my whole life here. All my family is here. And Oklahoma is _filled_ with great people. It's kind of hard to leave this place.
Everyone here is cherokee🤣
I was just talking about Principal Chief Wilma Mankiller this morning!!!
Even my fully white woman has her card somehow,its crazy fr...I think shes like two drops
And i am two drops of Pawnee my family being and coming from there..
(Sent from the Osage Rez)
From OKC and know very few families that claim a “history of Indians”. I understand that it’s more prevalent than most any other area in the USA, but not “every family” at all.
To be fair not everyone has a Native American background that lives in Oklahoma.
I have generations in Oklahoma of family here and from West Virginia through Kentucky. No a lick of Indian blood in us.
In the 60s my brother worked in NYC and was asked about his state of origin - Oklahoma. He told his friend that the state had just got electricity the year before (as a joke) - and the guy believed him! Next year we were going to get indoor plumbing.
People in NYC only know NYC. I am from Buffalo, the other end of the state, and spent several months there training for a job back in 2006. The people there literally thought Buffalo was in the Arctic and thought it snowed here year round. Nope, it's literally like a couple of degrees of latitude more northerly, and gets basically the same weather as NYC, but more snow in the winter because of the great lakes.
Not as far fetched as you would think. Most of rural Texas west of Austin did not have electricity until the 1960's.
😂😂 that's funny, although we do lag behind especially in the rural areas. We did not have street signs/911 until about 10 years ago. Also, things like trash pick was not available until recently.
But Oklahoma has the distinction of having the very first TV station in the US. Also the first station to have TV in color. Oklahoma has always been and remains to be innovative in the field of telecommunications. Meteorology as well. A lot of meteorology equipment was invented right here in Oklahoma. A good chunk of it invented by Gary England, the greatest meteorological journalist of all time. And his protege David Payne is pretty great too.
@@staceystitches Yes, you are right about that. We owe a lot to these men (and women) who have perfected this technology..keeping us safe during deadly storms. I love Oklahoma and our governor.
I have lived in north Texas my entire life. But spend time in Oklahoma often. I have considered making it my home. Currently I am trying to convince my wife that we should buy property in southwest Oklahoma for a cabin and getaway. I love the remoteness and lack of people. Too many people in Texas and is strongly dislike urban areas. In my opinion and experience, there are many good folks there.
thank you!
Man SWOK is awesome man gotta visit the Witchita Mountains
@@chanceparker5278 will check it out
@@chanceparker5278 I can’t believe I have not been there. Thanks
It all depends on where you live in Texas. I've been to some parts that are almost unpopulated. Dallas and Houston, on the other hand,...
You may have cared to mention that there was a significant amount of immigration from Oklahoma during the 30's dust bowl era and WW2 in the 40's when the population decreased by over 60,000 or 8%.
He always omits a lot of information from his videos. Wikipedia would have probably been more accurate.
@@jljordan1Funny that was exactly where the population figures came from.
Will Rogers once said that when the Okies moved to California during the Dust Bowl, it raised the IQ of both states
That would explain why the panhandle and much of northwestern Oklahoma is so sparsely populated as those were the areas that Oklahoma was affected. The rest of the state didn’t see any effect.
@@randalburris665That's very funny. Thanks. May have heard that a long time ago. When I worked with Okies and Texans in the 70's the Okies would tease the Texans by saying the definition of a Texan was a 'wetback' who hadn't made it to Oklahoma.
I've been to Oklahoma. Seemed peaceful and quiet. Exactly the way I like it.
good people are always welcome!
"but for most Oklahomans that's perfectly OK... Most people who live there are perfectly happier having fewer people nearby and a slower pace to life." That is well said! Very cool video :)
Amen lol poor Okla homans 🤣😂that was funny I be happy everyone stayed out .
btw, its not (oh-sah-gae) its pronounced (oh-sage) XD that was hilarious because the way he says it is like how i say it to clown on my osage buddies XD
I think a lot of the folks in the central states feel this way as well. North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas and Oklahoma are states where most people don't want to move to and many of its residents like it that way. Just talk to any native of Dallas, Houston, Austin, and heck Phoenix how they feel about the rapid population growths over the past few decades. More crowds and more traffic induce a lot more stress.
That slower pace of life was why I left after four years of ennui there. I liked the corporation that sent me there to help a struggling division, but it was no place for a single non-Baptist with a working brain. I've been back twice in the almost 40 years since I left.
Fried bread
Thanks for highlighting my home state in your vid. Most folks outside Oklahoma have no idea how diverse our geography is. We have a little bit of everything and it makes life fun and interesting. We as Oklahomans have a million day trips we can take before we get bored inside our state.
To be fair, I got bored and chose to leave OK for greener pastures. But that's just me. I still visit from time to time.
I totally agree with your day trips mention. A proud Okie myself, there is so much to see and do if you enjoy the arts, festivals, beautiful landscapes, history and lots of lakes, fishing, camping etc. And we absolutely appreciate the fact that more folks move to Texas than here...
There’s plains, mountains, and a desert. I love my state
@@ba2724 we're glad you left. You sound vaxxed and quadruple boosted.
Phillips 66, Conoco and Kerr McGee were all headquartered and developed in Oklahoma. Over the past 25 years, they one by one all moved to Houston, mostly because of no state income taxes but also for other reasons. People want to cram into one place for some reason. I do not feel that Dallas and Houston are good places to live any longer. The quality of life is lacking. Too many sheep following the herd.
Walmart made fun of those corporations for citing that they were just too big for Oklahoma anymore. I believe they said, "yeah, that's why we stayed in Bentonville."
Austin also.
Yes, Austin also. It got too big too fast.
For one Okie that lived in the DFW Metroplex for 20 years, it was nice coming back home.
When you mentioned The Port Facilities at Houston, I really thought you would mention The Port of Catoosa, the most inland Port with connections to the Sea in America. Nothing like Houston but so many are surprised as it's a little known fact.
I can here to say the exact same thing.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Ports
Geoff don't know geography
Yeah I was waiting for him to talk about it, and maybe the ports to plains corridor
I believe you missed a very important factor to the lack of population in Oklahoma, being the Dust Bowl of the 1930s. Over 440,000 people migrated out of Oklahoma during this time due to the weather. The dust bowl was a natural and manmade event. Abnormally die (natural) which over farming/over tilling (manmade) destroying the natural grass lands leaving a desert, more or less. Another huge drop happened in the mid 1980s during the "oil glut". Both events could be responsible for 2-4 million people today with birth rates alone (At these times). So, if these events didn't happen Oklahoma's population could now potentially be 6-8 million people.
Just a quick note on your list of petroleum companies headquartered in Texas. Actually Phillips and Conoco were both headquartered in Oklahoma (Phillips being started in Oklahoma and Conoco moving to OK in 1929). So during the formative years of the states history (Conoco moved HQ to Houston sometime mid century, Phillips stuck around quite a bit longer than that). But neither headquarters was in a major urban center in OK. Maybe that made it less attractive? Or the presence of the port and reserves in Houston was also surely a factor.
Also Halliburton started in Duncan Oklahoma by Erle P. Halliburton. Did not move headquarters until after he had passed away.
@@777strokeI’m from Oklahoma; My grandfather David Kennedye, said that Halliburton stole a patent from his grandfather, Charles Benton “Boots” Kennedye the First. He was so nicknamed for the Boots he always wore. My father’s maternal half-brother, Charles Benton Kennedye the Second, also goes by the name “Boots” Kennedye, although I’ve never seen him wear boots. My Uncle Boots is a Kiowa Native American documentary filmmaker and has accrued 10 Emmys so far. Check them out! I’ve always wondered if I should look into the Halliburton patent thing. Thanks for sharing that info about Halliburton in Duncan, OK; I didn’t know that! God bless you! 😊 🔥 ♥️
It was Phillips that said they were too big and needed to move to a bigger city. The Walton family joked how Walmart felt the same way, and that was why they were in the vast metropolis of Bentonville Arkansas.
Osage is pronounced "O-sage" like sage the herb. Ouachita is pronounced "WASH-i-tah".
I doubt that. Almost every language is written phonetically so you know how to pronounce the word. The exception to this is English. I think it was always meant to be pronounced "Oh-Saw-Gey" because it comes from the word "𐓏𐓘𐓻𐓘𐓻𐓟 (wažáže)" but some White people thought the "Saw-gey" was meant to be said like the spice. It's like how "Anna Karenina" is called "Anna Kuh-rin-nuh-nuh" in English (because native speakers can't get into phonetics) when the name is much prettier when you say "Ah-nah Kah-Reh-Nii-Nah" like it's supposed to be said.
@Firfag you're wrong. It's written in English which is not a phonetic language.
@@Firguy ž is the voiced sibilant, like the last syllable in "mirage". "Osage" came from how the French explorers/trappers in the 17th Century were able to pronounce "𐓏𐓘𐓻𐓘𐓻𐓟 (wažáže)", "Osage" rhyming with "mirage". English-speaking settlers later interpreted it as rhyming with "page", in line with most French loanwords (especially prior to North American colonization).
Also you're completely wrong about Anna Karenina - the "Anna Kuh-rin-nuh-nuh" is much closer to the Russian, which is more like "AH-na Kuh-RYEN-yihn-uh". Her husband's name is "Karenin", after all.
Learned how to pronounce all these words from natives, actually. It's Oh Sage. :)
@@Firguy I’m going to take the word of the leaders of the Osage nation and since they were at one point my bosses I’ll let you know they do not pronounce it like how it was in this video. The original commenter is correct about how the actual people pronounce their name.
As someone who grew up in Oklahoma then moved to Texas for high school and college, I can confirm that many people move to Texas for job opportunities. Also, if you’re an immigrant, it is easier to find a community and ethnic food and products in big Texas cities compared to Oklahoma. But as someone who also moved back to Oklahoma, I can say that I do like the slower pace of life and lack of traffic quite a lot.
The vast majority of people in Oklahoma only live in a small portion of the state between the Tulsa metro and the Oklahoma City metro. The western half of Oklahoma is by and large very lightly populated, especially the closer you get to the High Plains and the Oklahoma Panhandle.
Even here in north east oklahoma my town has just over 1k people. The nearest city is either Springfield or tulsa which are both like an hour and a half away.
Not enough rain.
Tulsa claimed the Oil Capital until the move of several oil and gas corporations to Houston. I remember Texaco's move because I was a temporary employed by them in downtown Tulsa. Something about being raided by T Boone Pickens and moving everything to Houston. I got a permanent job eventually with the Williams Companies.
A good portion of the oil companies he listed as being headquartered in Houston were originally Oklahoma (specifically Tulsa and Ponca City) companies.
According to my petroleum accountant mother, the real oil capital was Sapulpa, but a Tulsan put it on a bigger billboard lol
Yeah, I think it's Duncan that was where Halliburton started. I remember when Phillips 66 moved to Texas. It was a bitter pill to swallow, as it was the final (or at least most obvious) example of the departure of the oil companies in the late 20th and early 21st centuries.
Pickens was a modern day pirate. Friends of my dad hated him because he would never keep his promises.
Tulsa is the toilet bowl of Oklahoma
I’m impressed with how much you fit into a 14 minute video that still manages to answer the question you posed. You gave a brief history of Oklahoma and Texas followed by where it the two states are today. As someone born and raised in Oklahoma, but has family that lives all over the US (including in Texas), I think you did a great job! Obviously if someone wanted to dive deeper into the history or other reasons you cite for either state, then they could find resources that provides more information.
Thanks for making and sharing this video! I enjoy your channel and videos! I wasn’t expecting this video, but happy you made it!
Thanks for your positive feedback on what I think is a great video! I’m frankly disappointed in all the criticisms.
As a child my relatives in Pennsylvania asked me questions about living in Oklahoma. One question was how I got to school. "I walked" was my answer. They then asked, "but what about the Indians"? "They walk to" I replied. These same relatives on a driving trip to California from Pennsylvania told my parents Oklahoma was too far away for a visit.
Ehh they did you guys a favor. There’s something wrong with the water in PA… best everyone who lives there just stays there 😄
I’ve heard people tell that same exact story before and I have a hard time believing anyone could possibly think that Oklahoma is like that in this modern age.
My wife is from West Virginia,.After ww2 Her mother and dad drove from there all the way to Mexico and back in an old car. I marveled at that because in 1960 I took a similar route from East Texas to DC and back. That was a hard trip because they are not rich.
People can be judgemental and ignorant all at once.
LOL!! 😂
I’d like to add one correction to this video: Although its headquarters may be in Houston today, Phillips 66 was originally headquartered in Bartlesville, Oklahoma, which is located about 40 miles or so north of Tulsa. I’ve been to Bartlesville many times, since my mom lives there (it’s actually her hometown), and I’ve seen the house that the Phillips family lived in. A lot of history connected with Phillips 66 can be found in Bartlesville.
Yes, I visited the Phillips family house in Bartlesville. I didn't know Phillips 66 moved to Houston. I wonder when that happened?
@@jlrutube1312 I don’t know exactly when, but it happened when they merged with Conoco to become ConocoPhillips. That merger took place in 2002.
Bartlesville had just a Walmart until 2007 or so, No wonder Conocophillips moved out their HQ to HOuston
I think damn near all oil companies that are 100 years old now got their start HQ in Tulsa. To me when i say that I mean from Ponca City, Pawhuska(RIP Rick Holt) Bartlesville, and Tulsa. I think my dad worked for most of them and his dad worked for 1 or 2 them because back in the beginning oil hands had value. Drillers would do anything they needed to keep employees happy and keep them for life. Not so much anymore.
I’ve lived in Tulsa Oklahoma since 1978. I have lived in Texas, New York, Nebraska and Missouri. My family is from the southeast area of Oklahoma, Arkansas and Texas. My maternal great grandfather was a U.S. Deputy Marshal working out of Fort Smith, Arkansas for federal judge Isaac Parker. His area was Indian territory ( later the state of Oklahoma). He was well known for his exploits. His father was a Baptist minister who served the Native American Indian tribes and dedicated his life to them.
My fathers family came from the same area, as did my mother. Many of the men worked in the coal mines, and both grandfathers served in WW1 and 2. My dad was a military man, serving in WW2 and Korea. After my time in the Air Force, I moved around quite a bit but decided to return to Oklahoma but I didn’t want to live in the southeast area because jobs were scarce.
The Tulsa metropolitan area has approximately one million residents. I continued my fire department career from 1980-2017, finally retiring in 2017.
Oklahoma is a very nice place to live. The weather can be unusual at times, and we have the same problems with politicians😅 that other states have. But it’s an amazing place as the 11 counties around Tulsa are known as Green Country. Southeast is very hilly, and the far western Oklahoma is flat and somewhat desert like. Oklahoma City has grown immensely along with Tulsa. There’s a lot of history here along with low cost of living, low taxes, ease of traveling due to major interstate highways throughout the state and two major airports.
This is my home and we truly enjoy the area. My brother lives in Oklahoma City and my younger sister about 30 miles from me. Tulsa has many parks, walking paths, museums, and various entertainment acts that come through. It’s a very lively city with superb police, sheriff office and fire/EMS, plus great hospitals, medical providers, clinics.
Because of tornados
@@ellamcculloch4570 it seems multiple states are having a lot more tornadoes this year already, so they aren’t the reason for someone not wanting to live here. Tulsa is in a unique area and doesn’t experience tornados as much as Oklahoma City area and points southwest and south of here.
I live in the panhandle. I am also a geography teacher in the panhandle. I may be using this video soon. Thanks for this.
Please don't use this video. Its full of mistakes and omissions. Geoff doesn't know geography. He can't pronounce names correctly and he doesn't know Oklahoma has an ocean port.
Glad being a part of the 4 million amazing Oklahomans
I can't remember the date, but I do know it was before Columbus by a couple of hundred years.
Native Texan who grew up in far northern Oklahoma. It was a great place to live and I miss a lot about it (4 seasons but not tornadoes and constant wind), but I'm glad to be back home. My great, great grandparents moved to OK when it was still Indian Territory and are in the book of founding families of the state. My great great grandmother was Cherokee, but they lived in the Chickasaw area in southern OK near Ardmore. My mom was also born in OK, but they came to Texas during the dustbowl. It's a great state and I'll love it always.
You comanche?
I feel like you forgot a very imported small town. Cushing has the largest oil tank farm in the world that's why they call it "Pipeline Crossroad of the World"
They are about to start building a refinery there. The previous ones have been gone for many years. My in laws live by where one used to be on the west edge of town.
Love me some Cushing!
I'm from Oklahoma. The government does nothing to get jobs for their people. It's a cheap place to live, but the schools suck. We had no choice but to go to Texas to find jobs.
If you can't find a job in Oklahoma it's because you're not looking
Jobs in OK are given to family members, relatives, and political favors. Outsider ? Hahaha., forget it. Only jobs none of thier family members or friends want will be offered to you, and if they change their mind... your gone. Say a word to one Oklahoman, you might as well be talking to their entire family. LOL
@@mr.b3591 there's more jobs here than there is people still come on with that crap
Oklahoma/just like Texas has taken away women’s-girls healthcare & anonymity rights. They’re backwards states trying to take us back into the 1950s very dystopian and downright scary. It’s why many good doctors are leaving & not practicing obstetrics anymore- UGH.
@@mr.b3591 correction: We dont employ liberal dbags...carry on.
Osage is pronounced "0h-sage (sage like the plant)" Also, Conoco-Phillips and Phillips 66 ARE Oklahoma companies. Along with Sinclair, Skelly, DX, etc. Tulsa is what it is because of its location on the Arkansas River, and its proximity to the oil fields of the Glenn Pools, and the Osage Nation. Surprised you didn't mention that Guthrie, Oklahoma was the original capital city, until the seal was moved to OKC.
He didn’t know…not very well researched when average Oklahomans can write and pronounce the script better than the ‘expert.’
Made me laugh, you're likely not going to pronounce a lot of Oklahoma stuff like we do though, Miami, Gotebo, Vici, Boise City, Checotah (maybe Carrie Underwood helped with this one), Hobert, Chickasha even. OMG just remembered the new announcer saying Eufaula on KFOR, not an Okie! Also Bokchito and Durant.
Lmfao OUICHITA is just as bad... love it!
14:04 I live in Texas, and I have had many friends from Oklahoma and it is a prime example of how short distances can produce very different cultures.
This is a great way to compare the two: I grew up in Lawton, Oklahoma, which in the ‘80s was the 3rd largest city in the state with a population near 100,000. For the past twenty years, I’ve lived in Wichita Falls, Texas, similar in size at around 105,000 people and (last time I checked) is the 37th largest city in Texas. As much as I enjoy living in Texas, I will say I don’t really find any of the major cities to be very charming. The opposite is true of Oklahoma. In fact, Tulsa would be the first (TX/OK) city I would choose to live in.
Agree, except I am too old.
Tulsa does have the farthest inland port in the country. Also, Conoco and Phillips were Oklahoma companies that eventually moved to Houston.
Hey, no mention of the McLellan-Kerr navigational system? Tulsa metro is home to the furthest inland port, and thus hosts a plethora of manufacturing companies, especially relating to oil field equipment or chemical plant equipment. It's a huge piece of geography that shapes the state.
Also, the Tulsa airport was once busier than the NYC, London, and Paris airports COMBINED!!! The oil boom lead to staggering wealth accumulation (and some unsavory stories like the new movie based on the book, killers of the flower moon, depict). Both of those really deserve a mention. Whoa Nellie is still used today, and came from the first commercially productive oil well in 1897.
If you go from Texas straight north through Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, and North Dakota, each successive state has a smaller population.
If you are a native Texan, we're all the same! Doesn't matter which part of the State you are from.
In 1900, when Dallas was becoming an industrial hub, Tulsa had 1,300 people and OKC had around 10,000. I think it’s pretty remarkable there are now two metro areas with populations over 1 million, and despite Oklahoma’s bad reputation they both have solid growth rates, even with DFW’s magnetic effect to young professionals.
Thank you for doing this video! And thank you for giving Oklahoma the credit it deserves for its natural variety and colorful history! I've seen this Oklahoma and Texas comparison pop up on a few other channels, and as a former resident of both states I'm always glad to see them.
I love both states but there was a reason I chose one over the other. When I was leaving Stillwater, Oklahoma in 2016, I was originally planning on moving to Oklahoma City but I moved to Austin instead. I just need bigger and livelier cities, and Texas has that over Oklahoma.
Comparing their growth and development, the importance of oil in Texas can't be overstated. Texas was a sparsely populated backwater until oil was discovered in the early 1900s. All that oil money financed the building of education and infrastructure and helped Texas diversify into other industries too. I guess Oklahoma is playing catch up now.
That said, I do foresee that Oklahoma will boom and Texas will fade over the coming decades. The reason, of course, is the same reason for any other place: housing costs. The future of the United States is people being priced out and moving from one cheaper refuge to the next, and I see Oklahoma receiving the hordes of financially struggling people desperately fleeing Texas, Florida, and Colorado (after having already fled California, New York, and Washington of course).
Really doubt that. Oklahoma is a poor state and their education system is in bad shape. Despite lower housing most parents will not choose that. Texans are very proud of their state and unlikely to move to OK.
@@susancook1448Tulsa and OKC are very affordable and have several wealthy and high end suburbs.
I really wish you would tell the 12 different families from Texas that just moved in within 3 miles of me in Oklahoma that people from Texas won’t move here! lol! I’m joking they are great people but to say nobody from Texas is moving to Oklahoma is a joke. They are coming in droves to all areas of the state.
@@susancook1448Oklahoma is not a poor state in comparison to a lot of other Southern states around it. And trust me, plenty of Texans are moving here. Californians too, driving the housing cost way too high.
@@ReviewedByAndyyes, there is A LOT of money in OK. Old oil money and new money.
Oklahoman here. There’s a very good chance Oklahoma was visited by the Vikings before the Europeans. Look up the Heavener Rune stone. Can’t remember what it was dated to but it was definitely before 1500. There’s several other rune stones that have been found too.
No, the Heavener Rune Stone has been proved a fake. I thought it was cool until I saw that it was dated to like the early 20th century. There were a rash of fakes done in Minnesota by Scandinavians there also.
@@Donley76 References as to where? Cause no.
That’s widely known these days. It was made by 19th century migrants and settlers. You seem to be on the internet so I’m puzzled why you just don’t any cursory search on it, it’s easy.
@@mgs85 you mean using Googles wonderfully idiotic AI that uses idiotic and unfounded Reddit posts as its source?? 😂👍No thanks and your info is wrong. Are you referencing wikilinks or what, Einstein?
@@JB-dy9bl Did Trump cause that brain rot or was it there before? Am I talking to one of these infamous Q-Anon idiots? Wonderful...
Oklahoma has good and bad like nearly every place. I've lived here a long time and if it weren't for my wife's family I'd have been gone a long time ago. Mostly it's the weather. Hot, cold and windy to an extreme. There are numerous days every year that otherwise would be nice but for the wind. Poverty is rampant too. Impoverished people don't keep property up. High obesity and bad health abounds. Don't shoot the messenger.
Weather here is AWESOME!! WTF are you talking abOUt!! Windy??? No wind issues either!! Poverty is everywhere and where do you live?? High obesity is everywhere also mayb go to the local gym and hang OUt be around that crowd dude!!
"Poverty is rampant too. Impoverished people don't keep property up. High obesity and bad health abounds." @billybilly3777 You really need to get out more! 🙄
That’s why we caint never leave
Rampant poverty in Oklahoma? Come to Skid Row in LA where 52 city blocks are covered in tents, filth and squalor. Homeless everywhere. You'd swear you were in some 3rd World country in Africa. San Francisco too.. I don't think you get out much!
I'm near Paris TX just south of eastern Oklahoma, and I have always been astounded at how severe weather seems to favor Oklahoma. It is often clear here, but if I look north, I can see thunderstorms pummeling poor Oklahoma. It's like mother nature is perpetually annoyed with it and often beats the daylights out of everything north of the Red River. It's an interesting phenomenon. I suppose it it no accident that the National Weather Service located it's headquarters in Norman.
I have cush chairs in my shelter, a fan, and an AM radio, too. It is kept clean to use at a moments notice.
I live in Moore. My shelter has a carpet, pillows, fans, and led lights ready to go too.
Many of us who live in OK are amateur meteorologists: super cell, mesocyclone, cap, in-flow notch, hook echo, gate to gate, reflectivity vs velocity radar modes, hail core, power flashes, debris cloud, etc. are all common terms. Our meteorologists here are top notch, we usually get a couple days warning that we may have a bad tornado day…multiple spotters will be in the field and even a helicopter spotting. They can tell us usually down to the street name the tornado is on.
True.
Yes, we are a wasteland of severe weather. Tornados will get you eventually, you won't escape being sucked off the face of the earth or killed by lightning or a flood.
If you don't like crazy weather then Oklahoma is probably not for you. I was born in Washita and now live in Tornado alley. I have been in 2 tornados, one in Washita (about 52 years ago) and just this last April, near Norman.
We have droughts, we have some snow but mostly ice storms, it can rain for a week straight, we have high winds, no winds, high humidity, no humidity and we can also have all of these in a 24-48 period. So Oklahoma is not for everyone 😊
I spent lots of time in Oklahome during my Army career. I love Oklahoma. I retired in Texas as I am a native Texan. I have lots of friends there and we visit several times a year.
Fort sill?
@@Roastbeef88420 Yes. Hunting, fishing, all things outdoor available. It is like living in the country. For a country boy like me, it was a good fit.
Muskogee Oklahoma native here and I can tell you that we are absolutely with fine being only 4 million strong, we have no desire to bring millions more to Oklahoma, we are good.
I live in okc and really liked this video. Oklahoma has a ton of history that is overlooked. It was funny seeing you get something’s wrong about Oklahoma. Oklahoma is a surprising very important state for the US
As a non American i really enjoy this channel. You've taught me a lot about the US I would've otherwise never known 👍
You can learn even more in the comments, detailing some of the inaccuracies. :)
@@MadMonk67 "Some" of the inaccuracies? Did you mean "quite a bit" of the inaccuracies?
I'm an Oklahoman and proud to be an Oklahoman for sure. I enjoy visiting Dallas, Houston and LA but Oklahoma is my home. I love my small town life in Tecumseh/Shawnee . I love the light traffic
I've lived in Oklahoma all of my life. I love that it isn't so populated. There are only two things I would change about Oklahoma, and it's the unbearable humidity and heat during the summer and the political majority.
We should trade places, I am in NY and don't like the politics of this state. But we do have the terrible humidity here in the summer. Good old continental humid climate, even being this much further north we still get it here.
@digitalfootballer9032 I didn't know New York was humid. I do enjoy Oklahoma not being overpopulated.
Oh, you mean the real Americans.
Stay in OK county or Tulsa county and you won't have to worry about us "political majority" otherwise you're surrounded and outnumbered and it isn't going to change anytime soon.....thank the lord! On a side not I hear Cali has a vacancy they may suite your climate and political preferences. adios amigos!
You mean it hasn’t been infiltrated by communists and Marxists like Colorado has been infiltrated?
I was a previous resident of the state of Oklahoma. I can say there are several reasons why its population is so small. First off, its initial population was low to began with it being indian territory and the dust bowl. A large reason is lack of multiple major industries in the state other than oil and gas. There really isn't much else there to make money. A high percentage of people who live there do have money but they choose not to spend it. They sit on it, all the while fighting growth. Oklahoman's don't care about the rest of the world or the nation only their own state. It is very tight group of people and most never leave the state. On top of all that, the weather is incredibly unpredictable and when it happens, it mostly destroys the landscape. Tornadoes, floods, ice storms, and constant heavy winds. All make for a very unpleasant way of life.
Great coverage of Oklahoma! I was born here in the 1960's and still have no desire to live anywhere else. This state has more Native Americans and different tribes than any other state. Overall Oklahoma is very Christian oriented. A co-worker of mine moved here from NJ and when he was staying here for the job interview, he was unsure until he and his wife went grocery shopping. They were shocked when people would walk by smiling at them and tell them to have a great day. It's a very friendly place. The traffic is much less congested, and the cost of living is hard to beat. I know of many families moving here from California where they lived in a 2-bedroom 1 bath house that sold for $900k or even much more, and here for $300k you can buy a beautiful 3 or 4 bed home with all the amenities and have enough money left over to pay all their debts off. I have noticed that in the last 5 years with liberal policies driving away people from CA and NY, many more cars are on the road and housing additions are being built. Hopefully these new Oklahoman's will leave the "hustle and bustle" attitude behind and learn to be happy.
Shhhh. Don't talk this state up that much. Many of these people bring their liberal politics with them. Lets just keep this a secret so they'll go somewhere else
The best compliment I perhaps ever received as a native Texas was from a Native American student in Idaho, who had also attended college in Oklahoma. She said she really liked me because I was just like her profs in Oklahoma. Texas & Oklahoma culture is very similar.
Regrettably 'some' of those CA and NY imports (OKC and Tulsa areas) are bringing their 'liberal' attitudes and votes with them ... why run away from someplace and then vote to make your 'new' place just like the old? As we say here, "... just don't make sense ...".
@@clwest3538 I know the times turn everything into a political argument but what you’re talking about is simple. Places where people want to live are going to be more expensive. Until many are out priced and they have to move. More people move and more infrastructure needs to be created. Taxes/ costs go up. More development/ things to do, the more real estate values rise. And the cycle repeats somewhere else. It’s not because your politics is the right way and their’s is the wrong way. I’ve lived in NJ,California and Oklahoma. Crime, political corruption and poverty exists everywhere. People are friendly and not friendly everywhere. Moral and amoral. It’s all just people looking for a way to exist. People in blue states vote for policies that hurt them but so do red states.
Texas also had large deep ports. Lacking these ports, and without any dependably navigable deep rivers (at the time), Oklahoma struggled with access for the flow of both inbound and outbound trade. Never underestimate the importance of sea ports.
I lived in Oklahoma City for eight years. The state is very affordable and a good place to raise a family, but it is extremely dull.
There’s a very good reason it was mostly ignored, and simply a pass through for most of the United States early existence.
Still is.
I have often wondered where the Panhandle of Oklahoma came from. Thank you a wonderful and interesting History lesson!!!
Coming from Oklahoma I enjoyed this. The ending was well said. I’ve lived about half my life in okc. Okc huge. The amount of cities that have double the population , that you could fit into Okc is wild.
When he means Dallas, he’s not talking about Dallas Texas, the city. He’s talking about Dallas-Ft Worth Metroplex
Ft Worth isn’t as significant as Dallas. There are plenty of other metro areas in the United States with a principal city and it’s smaller ones such as St Paul, FT Lauderdale, Long Beach….etc.
Most people don’t feel like saying all those cities so they just name the principal city such as Miami, Dallas, Los Angeles…..etc
We moved from Indiana to southern Oklahoma in 2017, mostly to escape the cold, snowy winters up north. I've studied the history of this area quite a bit, and I'm rather surprised you didn't mention the 1899 proposed state of Sequoyah that would have been made up of the Indian Territory, prior to it being combined into Oklahoma.
You included my area (Marshall County) in the great plains, but this area is FAR from flat. The state has 3 mountain ranges... the Wichita in the southwest, Ouachita in the southeast, and Ozarks in the northeast. Where I am is a more ancient, much more eroded mountain range, the Arbuckle Mts which connected between Wichita and Ouachita (pronounced the same despite different spelling.) People around here are rather anal about how things are pronounced. For example the Washita River... pronounced Wash it ah, which is also pretty close to how Wichita and Ouachita should be pronounced. All 3 spellings mean the same thing, good hunting ground. :)
I lived in the Ok panhandle for many years and was snowed in for a week at a time, twice.
@@traycestauff9564 you're probably around 3,500 feet higher in elevation, though. Over here around Lake Texoma that doesn't happen very often. :)
I love oklahoma but I see the lure of Texas for sure in these items
1. Oklahoma can have brutal winters. If you don't like cold, then you will leave.
2. TUL airport is nice with several direct flights, but it's not a giant hub like DFW
3. Jobs! Texas cities have done an amazing job recruiting large companies to work. Oklahoma has several nice corps, but not nearly as many as DFW or HOU
4. Texas wouldn't have these corps if wasn't for their heavy investment in infrastructure. They are proactive with building giant roads where they expect growth to occur.
5. No income taxes. Again, this is very attractive for corps to open shop here.
You nailed it perfectly! Everything you said.
Cold? Oklahoma has nothing on the upper Midwest in that department. It's colder than Texas, but not nearly as cold as the Dakotas, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc. It's the wind that gets you.
Not a large coastal port. But we do have an inland river port. Port of Catoosa. So we aren’t completely landlocked to cargo ships.
Very interesting video, learned things I didn't know.
Interesting video with good info. But always remember, OK is a third of the size of Texas. This was all established by the war with Mexico and the land run. OK and TX are like brothers and are pretty unique. We fight each other, but if you come after one, you are taking on both as well. I don't think any other states have this relationship. There is a large portion of companies that are based in TX or OK that have most of their employees spread across both states.
The initial land runs did not displace the Native American tribes. They were on unassigned lands. The first land run in 1889 was on lands purchased by the Union from the Creek and Seminole tribes in the Reconstruction Treaties of 1866. After the Civil War, and due to the tribes joining the Confederacy which broke their original treaties, the treaties had to be renegotiated. The Creeks and Seminoles had far more land than their population needed.
I live between OKC and Enid Oklahoma and I can't see another house from my house. Taxes are ok, land is cheep, they finally allowed 6 point beer just about when I quit drinkin', it's an open carry state(that's guns, not beer) and I think we have some kind of permitless concealed carry. I'm not really sure how that works because I've been gone for 30 years for work. If I worked in the oil field I would have been 3rd generation oil field. My granddad was a wildcatter, my dad was a roughneck/tool pusher, and I'm an instrument tech. Nothing against the oil field I just didn't want that...even though growing up I thought an orange and black sedan or crew-cab was the peak of high society...Haliburton company vehicles. I worked heavy industrial but in Oklahoma that's pretty much oil and gas. I worked in nuclear and bio-fuels in every other state. There WAS a place in my home town that was exactly in my wheel house. A perfect higher tech job and made to order "stay at home job" for me, AND it was only 2 miles away! Kerr Magee. Eh'hem, that was a joke...a true one though, unfortunately. If you know the Karen Silkwood story, you'll get it. It was a few years before my time, but not by much. I remember it in operation. I know more than I should about that story, probably. My uncle was her supervisor, and back then, NO ONE could hide anything from the ladies axillary, lol. However, these days, like most of America, folks tend to keep to themselves beyond their inner circle. Unfortunate. Except for most of OKC, Oklahoma does still have a friendly home town feel. Even in OKC you can be totally alone and in the middle of nowhere with just a 10 minute drive. I did that very often when I lived in The City. The 405.
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I heard "Texas is so big you can fit the entire USA, the moon and another Texas into Texas."
So clearly Texas didn't need that panhandle and was generous to Oklahoma.
As the video says, it wasn’t gift, it was a scheme to continue slavery.
My dad ( a proud Texan) visited me where I'm living right now, up in Anchorage & when I picked him up at the airport... he was wearing a tee-shirt that was bragging about the size of Texas.. A couple weeks after he went home, I found a tee-shirt that showed two states of Texas inside an outline of the state of Alaska that said "Take that Texas!" and I mailed it to him... 😆 He got a major kick out of it, but I doubt he's ever worn it... (Maybe he has.. but somehow I doubt it) 🤣
Texas gave up the panhandle so they could keep slaves, nor a good play on their part.
During the pre-Civil War period one of the attempts at compromise drew a latitude line east to west. South of the line slavery could exist. North it could not. The counties within TX were ceded to OK in order for the remainder of the state of TX to remain slave holding.
Texas thought keeping slavery was more important than land
The People that claim Oklahoma has nothing but farm fields Have never seen eastern Oklahoma also regarding Dallas Fort Worth Oklahomas population will likely change within 10 to 20 years given current trends there’s already new construction going up in between I 35 and US 75 up to and around US 70
Well I’ve moved from South Florida to Oklahoma and I can confirm that Oklahoma still doesn’t have much. There might be a slightly prettier eastern Oklahoma versus the rest of the state but it’s still underwhelming versus its Arkansas counterpart in which it draws its ecosystem from. That’s kind of how Oklahoma is, it borrows some features from its neighboring state but it’s like a duller version.
Yes, the DFW Metroplex is growing North into Oklahoma. Denton already seems to be part of the Metroplex.
I grew up in Bell Gardens Calif, In the Los Angles County , it was nick named back in the day Billy Goat Acres because the dust bowel brought a lot of Okies and Arkie's in.
Actually the western 1/3 of the state isn’t so much crop land. The land is hilly, rocky, rough terrain.
The central 1/3 is where most of the farming is done. Pretty flat.
The eastern 1/3 the hills pick up again, trees everywhere, rivers, creeks, etc.
The eastern 1/3 and western 1/3 are like two different worlds.
There has always been such a rivalry between Texas and Oklahoma
People don't live in Oklahoma because it's a farming state, there's nothing there outside of Oklahoma City and Tulsa except farm towns and military bases. But I tell ya...leaving city life in Texas every November and going up to the Oklahoma panhandle to hunt deer on the farm is one of the highlights of my year!
"there's nothing there outside of Oklahoma City and Tulsa except farm towns and military bases" Not entirely accurate but I get what you're saying!
I'm from Oklahoma and I appreciated your presentation.
I was born and raised in Oklahoma. I lived in California for a year and deployed for almost a year while in the navy. I gotta say I am glad that Oklahoma has a low population compared to its neighbors Texas and Colorado. Oklahoma being a Bible Belt state is very good and important to live in harmony
While it lacks an ocean port, Oklahoma actually does have a couple of international seaports, including the Port of Catoosa-the farthest inland port in the US.
Another interesting fact: West Texas Intermediate Crude is the benchmark for American crude oil. Cushing, Oklahoma, is the delivery and price settlement point for WTI contracts due to its central transshipment location.
Without watching the video I will say I left oklahoma (tulsa) due to poverty, painfully cold winters and unbearably hot summers, not much to do, lack of diversity, racial segregation, poor education, high crime rate.
I moved to Dallas Texas one year ago and it changed my life forever and for the better. Everything I worked so hard for in oklahoma for 10 years I got in 1 year in dallas.
I will never move back to tulsa but it is My native Land
Oklahoma isn't all bad but sometimes the grass is greener else where
Anytime we need to dig a hole in our rock hard sandy-clay red dirt, my neighbor says, "There's a reason oklahoma was the last place to be settled and they had to give the land away".
I like living here. It's affordable and more free than most states.
I'm a proud Texan but I love Oklahoma. It's a beautiful state with so much rich native history. The people are friendly, though I don't like them when they do the horns down and take our premiere talent out of Texas, but I don't mind letting our smaller brother borrow from us. Overall, it's a great state that I'd proudly defend at all costs!
Just gonna pipe up and apologize for the horns down crap! It embarrasses me. Growing up we were told booing is disrespectful and never acceptable and I see the horns down as the equivalent to booing. Also proud Texan.
Texas also didn't like Santa Ana getting rid of slavery. A point my Texas history teacher refused to mention.
Actually, SA or not, there really should not have been slaves in the Texas settlements to begin with
@@DominicMazoch they brought the slaves with them.
DFW has a population of 7.6 million. Dallas has a population of 1.28 million. A lot of people group that area into Dallas. Dallas is big and from some parts of fort Worth are an hour away from Dallas.
We have an inland port via the Arkansas River. There’s lots of barges that go to the Mississippi River from there.
Great video and very interesting.
I'm always afraid of putting my foot in my mouth due to a technicality I'm not aware of. But, as an Oklahoman (and a Native America, though not Osage), I've never heard "Osage" pronounced O-SAHG-EH. It's always OH-SAGE.
Same applies to Ouchita. I was taught (and have always heard) WASH-IT-TAH, not OH-CHE-TAH. However, that word is sorta strange and lots of people get that one wrong.
Yes, almost everyone in North Texas, Arkansas, & Oklahoma winces when they hear mispronounced proper nouns like Osage & Ouachita. Similarly, Texans start yelling at their computer screens when they hear the mispronunciations of places like Waxahachie & Mexia. While some of these mispronounced Texas place names are from Native tribes others are Spanish or German place names.
Several times, years ago, I drove from S. CA to KCMO. Off of I40, in NM, I used to pick up US54 and head to Wichita, KS, then on to I70 and KC.
That stretch of US54 is one of the most desolate areas of this country I have ever seen. It went through parts of NM, TX, OK, and KS. I literally saw drifting soil, blowing and forming on and along the roadway.
Sounds like you were on the old Route 66 - which runs parallel or very close to the I40
@@francescathomas3502 No. I was on US54. It does not parallel I40. I took it to leave I40 and head NE from NM to Wichita.
I once drove through the NE corner of New Mexico and started counting how many tumbleweeds i hit with my car. I stopped when I reached 50 in about 10 minutes. Lol
Phillips was an Oklahoma company. Conoco was originally from Utah but was bought by Marland Oil and was headquartered in Ponca City Oklahoma. Halliburton technic which led to the formation of the company occurred in Oklahoma and its headquarters in Oklahoma.
thank you for the information
We do have a small inland port, The Port of Catoosa. It’s kinda cool that a product can get on a ship in the middle of Oklahoma and end up in Asia.
Dallas thought about doing the same, But that never happened.
@@johnschuh8616 It’s definitely worth it for the more inland areas of the country. Lets us ship our grain globally from our front door.
Uhhh,,,basically it is a 'barge canal and port',,,not ship canal. I've never seen a 'ship' on that canal, just barges. Offload the barges down in N.O. though onto ships. No ocean going vessels though.
@@eddiebob2408 This is true, but I’d say that’s merely a technicality.
Well, as a Texan, I wouldn't live anywhere else. If I had to, it would be Oklahoma. Great state.
yes they are both great states! 💪💪 Boomer Sooner!😉
I thought the panhandle was to keep Texas form touching Colorado. That is my favorite part of Oklahoma it keeps Texas from touching Colorado.
I had family members who moved to Oklahoma and the first question asked when they met new people was “what church do you go to?”. They found out very quickly that if the answer did not fit the questionnaire idea they got shunned. After a few years of this they moved out even though they had good jobs, peace of mind was more important. The religious attitude drove them out. My family members are Christian just not the type of ultra-conservative that most of Oklahoma is.
We have plenty of atheists and people of other faiths here as well. Unfortunately, many evangelical Christians and also conservatives feel privileged and entitled as the majority group and express the view that "their beliefs are the true Oklahoman beliefs". They have little tolerance for dissenting views. Too bad, this is still the United States. Fortunately, most people are still friendly and decent here.
You're overreacting it's literally not like that at all lmao quit making it seem like it's way worse then it really is
@@notmarr2000I mean honestly true Oklahoma beliefs belong to the native ppl or what's left of us
That's funny. I'm 57 and lived here all my life. Haven't attended church sine the early 90's. Never once have I been asked that question and I don't live in the city
Meaning nominal?
Tulsa is a gem of a city and might have the best organic/independent live music scene in the US.
drugs, crime, rude people, tornadoes, high taxes, expensive housing, lack of jobs. It's not called turf war Tulsa for nothing.
I live in Tulsa, and trust me it’s not a hidden gem by any mean
@@jamesmcalpin2227tulsas housing doesn’t seem that expensive
I agree with you! I love my city. Yes there is crime and other issues, but there is so much good. Great art scene, downtown is great, housing costs are much lower than the rest of the country. You can buy what seems like a mansion in Tulsa for less than what you can buy for in DFW now.
Tulsa is like any city the size of Tulsas metropolitan area you get some bad stuff tulsa has alot of assaults homicides etc because the drugs are so bad now i cant say i know of too many over the years who wernt on drugs tulsa has good and bad all over north south west midtown all have high points and some low points but east tulsa is not like the rest not picking on the hispanics who are living there working not flooding the streets with shit like fentynal killing everyone but theres a heavy hispanic presence in east tulsa and unfortunatly the cartels are in business here along with the various white gangs that don't just operate in prisons anymore
As someone from the northeast I would lean far more to moving to either the Dallas or Houston metro areas for job opportunities, but Oklahoma's big appeal is that home prices are still relatively cheap even compared to Texas. My only hesitation is having to deal with tornadoes (ugh).
Even if you live in the heart of tornado Alley the chance of your house getting a direct hit by a tornado is miniscule.
The Tornado Alley has actually drifted eastbound into Arkansas. Still get them but maybe not as many.
Tulsa's culture & cuisine (Jewish deli, Asian...) scene is of exponentially higher quality in the past several years, too. TG!
I grew up in SE OK. Although there are mointains (really they are large hills in that region) most raise cattle rather than poultry. They may even do both but rarely have i seen somone with only poultry farms.
I think more people live in texas because there are more jobs available and there is no state tax. For a while, the beer in texas had higher alcohol content and tasted better prior to 2016 or 2017 when oklahoma changed its regulations on that.
Oklahoma does have more relaxed Marijuana THC laws. A small town of 2500 people can have as many dispensaries as it does coffee shops.
Oklahoma is slower paced in the rural areas. The cities like OKC and tulsa are faster and similar to dallas.
Casinos in oklahoma are interesting. Most are owned by a native american tribe (choctaw, creek, cherokee, etc) and many people from bordering states enter oklahoma to gamble especially if they are 18-20 because bordering states have an age minimum on gambling usually stating people must be 21 or older to enter a casino. In texas gambling is illegal which is why many in the DFW and north texas area go to thackerville or durant to roll the dice.
They strategically placed these casinos near the border to bring in guests from those nearby states. The little town of pacola also has a large casino very close to the arkansas border as you approach Fort Smith.
Okie here. I personally enjoy shorter commute times and having few traffic jams. We have all the convenient and cool stuff large states and mega cities have without most* of the negatives that come with them. Texas is like California or the northeast, but with cowboys and bbq.
If you like rural outdoor life Ok. has so much more to offer. Plus its surprisingly pretty in alot of parts
Small correction. Osage nation is pronounced: Oh - Sage (sage as in the herb) or like Stage (but without the T). The people of Oklahoma are most definitely tight nit by comparison to the rest of the county. We are all very proud of ALL our people and especially our state. Everyone I know loves living here. p.s might want to mention the Tornados here, for the outsiders.
Enjoyed the history:
Fracking has made earthquakes more frequent in Oklahoma. I enjoyed my visit in Oklahoma, but it’s VERY HOT! I was there during the summer and it felt like living in a sauna!
It is my understanding that they stopped injecting wastewater back into the wells. Whatever they did, the little earthquakes that we had stopped. It is very hot through July and August, with little rain during those times.
The Oklahoman heat ran Sylvester Stallone out of Oklahoman. He says he won't be back concerning filming anymore of Tulsa King within Oklahoma. I do have to agree with him that it was really hot when he was here filming.
The Port of Catoosa near Tulsa is the largest inland river port in America
I moved from Washington DC to Phoenix I drove through Oklahoma shit was beautiful and people seemed laid back even tho there wasn’t much goin on activity wise in Tulsa or okc it just seem chill and cheap cost of living I always thinking to my self I should of settled in Oklahoma one day I will return
I really enjoyed his closing comment. About how we are happy and laid back.
It's true
Oklahoma has a state tax. Texas, especially Dallas has more employment options.