Google Did Something REALLY Stupid - Protect Yourself!

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  • čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
  • The dumbest move I've seen in a while...
    • PART 2 (It's WORSE Than I Thought): • Google's Zip Domains A...
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    0:00 - What's Going On?
    1:37 - The Trick
    3:12 - Is It Really That Bad?
    3:54 - My Point: It's Still Worse
    7:27 - Another Reason It's Bad
    9:22 - How to Defend Against It?
    9:54 - Just Block ALL .zip domains
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  • @mikefischbein3230
    @mikefischbein3230 Před rokem +1739

    Even disregarding security risks, the obvious potential for confusing filenames and urls should have already been a dealbreaker.

    • @meghanachauhan9380
      @meghanachauhan9380 Před rokem +38

      Yea... It's gonna be a new golden era of hacking. Everything you built shall fall and on the ashes of your filesystems, we'll build a better one

    • @dingdong2103
      @dingdong2103 Před rokem +74

      Even bigger problem is the way how Microsoft hides file extensions by default

    • @Darkn3ssF4ll
      @Darkn3ssF4ll Před rokem +3

      Blame IANA

    • @ruadeil_zabelin
      @ruadeil_zabelin Před rokem +14

      @@dingdong2103 Yes! I hate that so much. Its such a security flaw its rediculous. It also doesnt make it any more easy to use either

    • @heavy0119
      @heavy0119 Před rokem +1

      @@meghanachauhan9380 fear mongering at its finest.

  • @villegasrenzjustinel.5596
    @villegasrenzjustinel.5596 Před rokem +547

    Using firefox tells a confirmation box if you want to browse the specific link after the '@' characters, while edge directly go to the link. Thumbs up firfox

    • @dluziond
      @dluziond Před rokem +14

      oh nice

    • @Finalizor
      @Finalizor Před rokem +88

      more reasons to stay on firefox

    • @stupidfanboyph
      @stupidfanboyph Před rokem +17

      ​​@@Finalizorut my office dont want to and keep Google Chrome. And with manifest v3 rolling out soon, not gonna be surprised if we get hacked or rnsmwred.

    • @ArtflPhenix
      @ArtflPhenix Před rokem +2

      hmm does not work on youtube comments specially the @ sign and any text is not included in the link

    • @fss1704
      @fss1704 Před rokem +2

      @@ArtflPhenix you forgot to use the unicode slash

  • @5H4D0WOfficial
    @5H4D0WOfficial Před rokem +1004

    Imagine the nightmare of scams if Google releases domains of all types of file extensions 😱💀

    • @progCan
      @progCan Před rokem +61

      google should have -infinity IQ to do that.

    • @sky_dragonsz
      @sky_dragonsz Před rokem +78

      they also added .mov

    • @p3rf3ctxzer0
      @p3rf3ctxzer0 Před rokem +30

      don't worry .rar4 is coming when google buys rar.

    • @BoltRM
      @BoltRM Před rokem +2

      🔥😳🔥

    • @sc1ss0r1ng
      @sc1ss0r1ng Před rokem +46

      example.exe

  • @SmallLegacy
    @SmallLegacy Před rokem +1340

    Google yet again proving they don't really care about user/consumer protection

    • @eIucidate
      @eIucidate Před rokem +67

      Username: user
      Password: consumer

    • @breadone_
      @breadone_ Před rokem

      im not even sure they dont care. theyre just completely incompetent

    • @near5148
      @near5148 Před rokem +15

      ​@@eIucidate hacker: imma type this is in

    • @Irobert1115HD
      @Irobert1115HD Před rokem

      its likely more someone with money but no brain getting to much to say at google. internet companys shouldnt be on sthe stock market and this is another piece of evidence.

    • @haroldcruz8550
      @haroldcruz8550 Před rokem +21

      Never attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by malice.

  • @LaughingOrange
    @LaughingOrange Před rokem +487

    I consider myself a computer expert, but with decent social engineering, I would totally fall for this.

    • @ExacoMvm
      @ExacoMvm Před rokem +5

      I wonder in what kind scenario?
      I honestly don't really see myself falling for it, the username:password URL thing yes but whatever goes after that would be harmless to me, unless it's some super SE e.g. Patreon or Discord Mod/Admin's of some plugin/tool or modded game gets hacked and someone edits one of the links with own attached malware, but it doesn't mean that someone couldn't simply replace the file with their own so the .zip domain maybe adds some risks but not really that much, it's just +1 way of hacking someone of a hundreds of ways.

    • @bestaround3323
      @bestaround3323 Před rokem +83

      @Exaco I mean those who think themselves unable to be fooled are some of the simplest to fool. Hubris will get you in trouble.

    • @haukikannel
      @haukikannel Před rokem +8

      Yeah… A post from my own company would go unnotised…
      This is really bad…

    • @ember9361
      @ember9361 Před rokem +5

      @@ExacoMvm 5:10
      About a third of this video is giving examples bud.

    • @technocracy90
      @technocracy90 Před rokem +24

      @Exaco Oh yeah, a classic "computer expert" saying more security hazards for "average people" is not a big deal, as if computers are only used by "experts".
      A friendly reminder is that even such tools that are used by nobody else than astronauts level experts, such as spacecraft themselves, are designed super carefully to minimize potential hazards. Imagine a single astronaut saying "eh I'm an expert so poor UI is not a big deal, make the numbers more confusing and I can deal with them" and you'll be like "wow what an expert he is" right?

  • @triive.
    @triive. Před rokem +1490

    A mistake from a multi trillion dollar company?! Dang.

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter Před rokem

      Worst is that they don't seem to want to back down "iT's ToO mUcH pApErWoRk"
      F_CK THEM ALL
      if you want something fixed, abuse it as hell.

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 Před rokem +75

      And this is not their first mistake this year (because we have CZcams starting to block any adblock extension from earlier this month)

    • @triive.
      @triive. Před rokem +8

      @@sihamhamda47 Bruh-

    • @charginginprogresss
      @charginginprogresss Před rokem +40

      "mistake"

    • @MegasXLR
      @MegasXLR Před rokem +49

      @@sihamhamda47 if they block ad blockers I'm just not watching anymore CZcams lmao I will not tolerate 2 30 second ads on a 3 minute video!

  • @guardian1102
    @guardian1102 Před rokem +222

    It's funny how Google with all it's technically skilled engineers and programmers can somehow reach the conclusion that a dot zip domain is somehow a great idea.

    • @redstoneparadox
      @redstoneparadox Před rokem +54

      This is probably coming solely from corporate; the engineers probably realized that their concerns would at best fall on deaf ears.

    • @aquarius5719
      @aquarius5719 Před rokem +32

      I used to believe that to work at Google you had to be brilliant. Now I am not sure.

    • @ember9361
      @ember9361 Před rokem +34

      @Central Based Agency are you seriously blaming immigrants in this? Lmfao

    • @notcorrect
      @notcorrect Před rokem

      Google did this so they can make a quick buck off of scammers. They know what they are doing.

    • @LauraLovesHugs
      @LauraLovesHugs Před rokem +32

      @@ember9361 yeah lol this decision REEKS of high level executives trying to make some extra money wherever they can while ignoring engineers, immigrant or otherwise.
      being racist doesn't solve any of these problems it's just pointing fingers at a group that isn't responsible and excusing the people who actually are.

  • @tortoisesquid
    @tortoisesquid Před rokem +504

    I literally had to explain the different between home wifi and mobile data to a family member its going to be hard to explain .zip and the dangers. I feel like this was a google employee joke that went so far to become true.

    • @bountoj
      @bountoj Před rokem +45

      Holy shit, I thought I was the only one. A good majority of my family members don't understand this.

    • @tj71520
      @tj71520 Před rokem +19

      most computer users will be powerless against this new problem 😢

    • @FlyboyHelosim
      @FlyboyHelosim Před rokem +25

      Yeah, my dad's using limited mobile data like it's unlimited Wi-Fi. 😳

    • @DavidM2002
      @DavidM2002 Před rokem +6

      That is far more common than you might think. If you say "data" to many people, they equate that to cell data usage; it's either "wifi" or "data" if they even understand that.

    • @Liggliluff
      @Liggliluff Před rokem +28

      And people saying "wi-fi" when they mean internet is already common. Wi-fi is wireless connection irregardless of an internet connection. You can have wi-fi and no internet.

  • @eddielowe8189
    @eddielowe8189 Před rokem +505

    Zip is a file extension so why confuse things by making it a domain. With companies out there making dumb decisions staying safe has got so much harder.

    • @thedrunkenrebel
      @thedrunkenrebel Před rokem +49

      There should be a blacklist of words unable to be used for certain computer stuff, and it's funny why the past 4 decades haven't sprouted such list

    • @eddielowe8189
      @eddielowe8189 Před rokem +12

      @@thedrunkenrebel I fully agree, that some words should never be used for more than one purpose. We are being forced to use programs and trust them to keep us safe because companies make bad choices. the average user may not be aware they have holes in the network and those that do will forever be fixing them because of companies like Microsoft.

    • @gardian06_85
      @gardian06_85 Před rokem +3

      it mostly comes down to there are only so many 3 character combinations, and the decision to have the majority of TLDs be 3 letters (easier to remember, easier to identify, less likely to be confused or misrepresented), but still be meaningful at least in English.
      then almost anyone with enough funding and infrastructure can register a TLD.
      what probably happened here was Marketing handed down a list they came up with, and either it was given to a few of the thousand some people that were pre-poached as something to do. Or a fully versed team tried to give push back, but was told it was a required directive, and they HAD to complete.

    • @EBDeveloper
      @EBDeveloper Před rokem +11

      it's not a mistake, it's tactical agenda IMO. They're distressing the internet users to offer digital ID as the fix.

    • @ens0246
      @ens0246 Před rokem +13

      I went on the site to see what their justification for creating this domain is and it's literally just "zip domains let your customers know you're fast paced and a real cool guy" unbelievable

  • @KaldekBoch
    @KaldekBoch Před rokem +5

    Cheers mate, I'm a senior infosec resource for a 150,000 person business and I've used your video as our internal assessment. I've always liked your approach to content on InfoSec topics.

  • @GYTCommnts
    @GYTCommnts Před rokem +201

    I've been suffering Google's ""mistakes"" lately:
    - Only can debloat Android TV from outside the system.
    - Can't disable Bluetooth discovery on some Android TVs.
    - Chromcast built in "guest mode" enabled by default and can only be disabled by Google Home app, or disabling the chromecast app entirely.
    And so on...
    That's why rooting devices and having advanced options for the ones who know what they are doing is mandatory to avoid headaches from this multi billon corporations that see you only as a product, so they don't care the problems they produce in your day to day life...

    • @hydra3693
      @hydra3693 Před rokem +16

      not to mention no banking apps for custom ROMs without stupid cat and mouse workarounds that may randomly stop working and rely on deprecated access modes. Android peaked in 2014.

    • @tehdanny682
      @tehdanny682 Před rokem +8

      I recently ordered an Android TV and wasn't aware of these issues, so thanks for the warning, I'll take a look at those when I get the TV.

    • @tehdanny682
      @tehdanny682 Před rokem +2

      @@hydra3693 hmm yes, I know some of these words. Are you handling your banking on your TV? Or is that an Androind phone issue

    • @encycl07pedia-
      @encycl07pedia- Před rokem +1

      @@tehdanny682 I got a Chromecast recently with CZcams TV (I'm not sure if it's the same thing UI-wise). Bloat is a nuisance more than anything else. I'm not saying it's good, but it's not, AFAIK, some major security issue. The most aggravating thing about it is the lack of buttons on the remote virtually forcing you to use voice recognition to do anything.
      It's hard to blame Google for Android failings when Android is often modified by the OEMs. Samsung's Android is quite different from Google's.

    • @tehdanny682
      @tehdanny682 Před rokem

      @@encycl07pedia- Ah, so I'm not necessarily getting bloat issues with my Philips android tv, it's just that some companies adds all of their apps, makes sense.

  • @ApfelJohannisbeere
    @ApfelJohannisbeere Před rokem +82

    Please don't forget that Google also released the .mov TLD (Top-Level-Domain) which can be ALSO seen as a file extension, in this case .mov witch is a MPEG-4 Apple Quick Time file format!

    • @philadams9254
      @philadams9254 Před rokem +4

      Yeah, that's also dumb. All so they can troll Apple apparently

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo Před 6 měsíci

      FYI, .mov is _any_ QuickTime movie, regardless of codec used. .mov is a container format that doesn’t tell you anything about the contents within.

  • @Yougi
    @Yougi Před rokem +182

    6:14 Fun fact, Discord actually hides credentials in URLs, so people would be less likely to get tricked!

    • @ThioJoe
      @ThioJoe  Před rokem +50

      Good to know

    • @jer1776
      @jer1776 Před rokem +12

      Itll probably take Google months to make a Chrome/Gmail update that does that.

    • @hadassahsoddsandends
      @hadassahsoddsandends Před rokem +3

      @@ThioJoe It might be good to know, if I understood what it meant!

    • @MyMobileGames
      @MyMobileGames Před rokem

      @@hadassahsoddsandends somthing private information

    • @encycl07pedia-
      @encycl07pedia- Před rokem +4

      @@hadassahsoddsandends "Credentials" is just a way of saying username and password, essentially: the stuff you need to log in to a website.

  • @PhotonMonkeygames
    @PhotonMonkeygames Před rokem +30

    In a couple of months google will announce that Chrome will block zip domains by default to protect users.
    They’ll spin it that they are the only company that cares about this issue and if you want protection you must use Chrome.

  • @_SJ
    @_SJ Před rokem +530

    Ah.. yes... From the 1.56 Trillion Dollar company. Keep it up Google 👍🏻

  • @hungariancountryball2928
    @hungariancountryball2928 Před rokem +357

    Why is every company destroying themselves rn?

    • @justsomeguywithoutamustang6436
      @justsomeguywithoutamustang6436 Před rokem +7

      I knew it! Google being run by Aliens

    • @goodgoyim9459
      @goodgoyim9459 Před rokem +21

      @@justsomeguywithoutamustang6436 i thought it was just indians?

    • @hungrygrimalkin5610
      @hungrygrimalkin5610 Před rokem

      Haven't you seen the google graveyard? Google is a failure, they got the low hanging fruit of search engine monopoly at a time with almost non existent alternatives and dominated through that same search engine. If Google were to start nowadays, nobody would know them.

    • @mind_of_a_darkhorse
      @mind_of_a_darkhorse Před rokem +41

      One word sums up their self-destruction...greed! When profits are more important than the product or the workers, it is a sure sign of eventual collapse! The pursuit of constant growth is unsustainable!

    • @ItsWuLx
      @ItsWuLx Před rokem

      @@goodgoyim9459 bros a bot

  • @luckywetland
    @luckywetland Před rokem +43

    Sometimes I feel that big companies like Google make such mistakes deliberately to sell you some extra useless feature claiming they’re protecting you.

  • @MasicoreLord
    @MasicoreLord Před rokem +97

    Google Chrome should implement -the same- a similar warning as firefox did, -when the domain you'd actually end up at doesn't require authentication in the url.-

    • @fss1704
      @fss1704 Před rokem +4

      it doesn't solve much

    • @tpkowastaken
      @tpkowastaken Před rokem +7

      @@fss1704 Yeah hackers can just require authentication

    • @MasicoreLord
      @MasicoreLord Před rokem +1

      @@tpkowastaken seems chrome removed support for that auth method in url years ago, and it just strips them out prior to navigating
      So looks like that warning would have to be something else.

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae Před rokem

      @@MasicoreLord no, it's worse, the behavior in Chrome hasn't changed, it's the same behavior IE removed over 15 years ago.
      I just tested, give it a domain with username and password and it will visit the website and authenticate with username and passport and as every browser has done: does not show anything about that in the URL, just the domain/website

    • @goku445
      @goku445 Před rokem

      Why do you use a product made by the enterprise that's the root cause of the issue?

  • @mrdiamond64
    @mrdiamond64 Před rokem +90

    I noticed that Firefox would show a prompt saying your logging into a site, and with the true domain. This would probably stop most phishing attacks if it was implemented in other browsers.

    • @ronnyparker7148
      @ronnyparker7148 Před rokem

      well google owns firefox, so what do you think that says about concern for users/customeers

    • @Atlessa
      @Atlessa Před rokem +23

      Google owns Firefox? Since when?

    • @Legendendear
      @Legendendear Před rokem +23

      @@Atlessa
      They dont, but Firefox is financed by google. (To avoid monopoly lawsuit)

    • @Sid-69
      @Sid-69 Před rokem +2

      ​@@Legendendear And Apple financed Microsoft at one time. (Or was it vice versa?🤔) Anyway, financing ≠ owning

    • @Legendendear
      @Legendendear Před rokem +1

      @@Sid-69
      Isnt that exactly what I said?

  • @southernflatland
    @southernflatland Před rokem +30

    There should be a feature where when you hover over a link, it highlights any particularly suspicious characters such as the at symbol or suspicious Unicode characters or lookalike characters in red, to alert the user that it's likely a dangerous link.

  • @Enclave.
    @Enclave. Před rokem +5

    I still can't believe how well you transitioned from tech pranks to being an actual tech channel.

  • @jase_allen
    @jase_allen Před rokem +16

    I caught the @ right away. It reminded me of a link an acquaintance sent me years ago with a username and password built in. But yeah, the vast majority of people I know wouldn't think anything of it. If I didn't have that previous experience, I might not either.

  • @parkamark
    @parkamark Před rokem +179

    7:00 You can't have underscores in domain names but dashes are certainly possible.

    • @ThioJoe
      @ThioJoe  Před rokem +62

      Ah i see, yea same idea

    • @underscore.
      @underscore. Před rokem +7

      haha 7:00 and 7 likes

    • @SCIBER-IO
      @SCIBER-IO Před rokem +9

      How did you spot that dam.. Please print screen this command and show it in ur next salary discussion u deserve a raise dude

    • @Sid-69
      @Sid-69 Před rokem

      Can you have dashes either? I think you mean hyphens

    • @tin2001
      @tin2001 Před rokem +2

      @@Sid-69
      Difference? Aren't dashes and hyphens the exact same character?

  • @russianspy1234
    @russianspy1234 Před rokem +29

    Firefox apparently warns you if you try to go to a URL with an @ so that's nice

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 Před rokem +1

      It didn't warn me just now. Firefox version 113.0.2.

    • @thepikachugamer
      @thepikachugamer Před rokem +1

      @@eekee6034 It is for me, tested with the url in the pinned comment. 113.0.2 (64-bit)

    • @xXVibrantSnowXx
      @xXVibrantSnowXx Před rokem +2

      i use latest firefox, didn't get any warning

  • @bobwatkins1760
    @bobwatkins1760 Před rokem +15

    Good to know that someone is savvy enough to alert us netizens on upcoming scams and corporate stupidity. Thanks for the heads up!

  • @lmaoidgaf
    @lmaoidgaf Před rokem +46

    ThioJoe is the one scientist that warns everyone before the destruction.

    • @lmaoidgaf
      @lmaoidgaf Před rokem +1

      Obviously no one hears him now until some big scam got played using this trick and then everyone becomes an expert 😂

    • @nicholasvinen
      @nicholasvinen Před rokem

      “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.”

    • @Sid-69
      @Sid-69 Před rokem

      "Thio Oppenheimer"

  • @Jerios
    @Jerios Před rokem +59

    Another thing I would like to point out is that there are also malicious "mov" domain names as well that google let you register So watch out for those as well
    cheers

  • @SimplyElectronicsOfficial

    Yeah, I have always been very good at spotting suspicious urls but this may very well trip me up in future given that I pull from github and other codebases a lot! Google should just park this domain extension never to be used by anyone

  • @rafaeltorovip
    @rafaeltorovip Před rokem +40

    I do really appreciate the time you take to make videos like this one, alerting us of potential dangerous situations. Thanks.

  • @friarruse1827
    @friarruse1827 Před rokem +299

    This is not a mistake. Google knows that scammers and malicious actors will pay for these domains, thus making them more money. It's always about money.

    • @memyshelfandeye318
      @memyshelfandeye318 Před rokem +12

      How does Google make money from domains?
      Hint: Google is not selling domain names ...

    • @JaivianDean
      @JaivianDean Před rokem +44

      @@memyshelfandeye318 .zip domains are currently being sold for 15 dollars/yr. This is because they just got released

    • @Mario583a
      @Mario583a Před rokem

      @@memyshelfandeye318 Fine, we'll do it ourselves!!

    • @humilulo
      @humilulo Před rokem +16

      @@memyshelfandeye318 no, when a company buys a TLD they buy the rights to sell domain names with that TLD ending. so this means Google bought rights to sell domain names that end in '.zip'.

    • @EBDeveloper
      @EBDeveloper Před rokem +5

      @@humilulo also, the premium domains add an approximate minimum of 1million. Google makes a million in seconds.. so the real culprit here is probably to break the internet, and rush in digital ID for their WEF and govt agency masters.

  • @russianspy1234
    @russianspy1234 Před rokem +73

    The biggest issue is autolinking though. So if you send someone an attachment, and mention the name of the zip file in the email, and the receiver clicks that link instead of the actual attachment, they'll be directed to that site which may or may not be malicious.

    • @ImpossibleOrange
      @ImpossibleOrange Před rokem

      yeah, I see how this feature can be used without the .zip bit. having a legit looking url with @example .[any available domain] is still a really good way to trick someone. Unless you're aware about the @ exploit you wont have a clue. Since firefox already has a warning for it someone probably tried something like that already.

    • @ImpossibleOrange
      @ImpossibleOrange Před rokem

      with autolink just take a domain with a common filename like presentation, project etc. and load it up with a virus

  • @Becke963
    @Becke963 Před rokem +6

    NextDNS is actually free for the first 300,000 queries/month (When exceeding the free monthly quota, NextDNS will continue to answer DNS queries like a classic non-blocking DNS service)

  • @hrudyplayz
    @hrudyplayz Před rokem +2

    The issue isn't really the .zip extension but rather that browsers still support that antiquated URL format in the first place.

  • @adam.gibson
    @adam.gibson Před rokem +6

    I am really surprised nobody at google could convince Google not to do this. That they would think this was an acceptable thing to do is just really bad for security.

  • @lillyblackblood
    @lillyblackblood Před rokem +1

    I absolutely agree with you.
    I could see myself falling to that type of scan and I consider myself fairly aware of scams.

  • @anon_y_mousse
    @anon_y_mousse Před rokem +8

    I definitely think you're right about this one. Even those of us on Linux could potentially have a problem with it. The only solution I offer is to manually type in the domain name of whatever website you want to visit and once you've navigated somewhere within that site bookmark it and only ever use the bookmark going forward.

    • @charleswhite2426
      @charleswhite2426 Před rokem +1

      That has been my practice for awhile now.

    • @Sonario648
      @Sonario648 Před rokem

      But how would you know the name of the exact url without first typing it in?

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse Před rokem

      @@Sonario648 You wouldn't need to know the exact URL, just the domain name. As I said, navigate from there to where you need to be on a given site and bookmark that.

    • @xXVibrantSnowXx
      @xXVibrantSnowXx Před rokem

      @@anon_y_mousse That barely fix half the problem

  • @AussieMysteries
    @AussieMysteries Před rokem +7

    Thanks Joe, I'm already on facebook in my local community spreading this info. This is a really stupid move by google.

  • @Crlarl
    @Crlarl Před rokem +1

    Google really dropped the "don't" from "Don't be evil."

  • @homecinematech
    @homecinematech Před rokem

    I love your content over the years and this is a helpful video for lot of people . Thank you and keep more coming

  • @hidenfn
    @hidenfn Před rokem +6

    This is pretty incredible, I was being safe about clicking links before but having to read the end of it every time is a bummer.

  • @TRSC25
    @TRSC25 Před rokem +5

    1:20
    "Can you tell which one would download a .zip file with a virus in it?"
    Me who already watched sytonic's video -

  • @steveb1739
    @steveb1739 Před rokem +1

    Appreciate your keeping us on top of this! Thank you very much Joe!

  • @mmzett
    @mmzett Před rokem +6

    I would like to correct that this isnt that big of a deal, because you can make this with any domain and then redirect it to a malicious link

  • @ilovefoxes344
    @ilovefoxes344 Před rokem +33

    BRUH. Is Google trying to help scammers or what?

    • @aerosw1ft
      @aerosw1ft Před rokem +12

      They didn't even bother fixing scammers in youtube comments, don't think this would be any different

    • @ilovefoxes344
      @ilovefoxes344 Před rokem +2

      Google is literally on Team Scam!

    • @hdezn26
      @hdezn26 Před rokem

      Google is paid directly by scammers.... why do we see bad ads, spam ,and other shady **** on google's platforms?
      That's why.....
      And that's why I block ads due to this... Google ain't going to give up that Scammer money especially after they lost all that ad revenue in the ADpocalipse.... and other incedents afterward...
      Also hour or multi-hour long ads... that's just a joke... If I wanted to watch a Infomercial.... I'd stay up late at night to see em...
      Sorry... Rant.

    • @Fighter_Builder
      @Fighter_Builder Před rokem +4

      They already don't do anything about scammers buying Google Search ads for popular software like OBS, so at this point I'd be legitimately surprised if they weren't actively trying to help them.

    • @ilovefoxes344
      @ilovefoxes344 Před rokem +3

      I am starting to believe that Google's CEO is the world's best scammer.

  • @charliecashman
    @charliecashman Před rokem +11

    This does seem like a bad idea, but what you didn't cover is why Google thinks it's a good idea in the first place. One would think they would have considered the downside to having this but the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Could you make an update to your post that looks at this?

  • @DiaborMagics
    @DiaborMagics Před rokem +2

    About the people saying it's no big deal because coming up with lookalike domains can already be done: that does not mean we should be giving bad actors an extra tool!

  • @tonn333
    @tonn333 Před rokem +1

    Google: there are already many ways...
    Incredibly dumb argument.

  • @ho77iday
    @ho77iday Před rokem +5

    I have a feeling there's a catch. Even if it's benign, no one would want to click on it, so therefore, who would want to register it?

  • @zacharylowe8083
    @zacharylowe8083 Před rokem +2

    ThioJoe has been quietly becoming one of the most helpful CZcamsrs.

  • @birdieberry
    @birdieberry Před rokem

    Wow...this is insane. Thanks for the heads-up!

  • @robertdelossantos633
    @robertdelossantos633 Před rokem +7

    No I'm thankful that you take the time to make these videos for us. I believe if your worried about security you have to be aware of the smallest details. Thank you and be safe .

  • @YannMetalhead
    @YannMetalhead Před rokem +17

    That's why google don't fight scammers, it loves them.

  • @developerpranav
    @developerpranav Před rokem +4

    Damn! this was worse than I initially thought! Thanks for educating and explaining the mitigations :)

  • @RedSiegfried
    @RedSiegfried Před rokem +1

    It doesn't stop the stupidity of forcing everyone to use the absolutely terrible Google Authenticator if you want to keep your account with them safe.

  • @ashley_smith
    @ashley_smith Před rokem +1

    Yes, this is a big problem. Thank you for the video !

  • @zohircherifi5616
    @zohircherifi5616 Před rokem +8

    Google is evolving backwards

  • @MysticMylesZ
    @MysticMylesZ Před rokem +3

    This is gonna make not falling for those emails even harder, and help spawn more Scam Channels.
    Shout out to LTT.

  • @psyboyo
    @psyboyo Před rokem +2

    And it's another video for my "Don't Be Evil" playlist... this one is, just terrible.

  • @THE-X-Force
    @THE-X-Force Před rokem +5

    All this time .. _years_ lol .. I thought facebookmail *_WAS_* a spam/phishing domain.
    The more you know! 🌠 Thanks Thio!
    Also .. yes .. this new TLD is ridiculously dumb and dangerous.

  • @dhoffnun
    @dhoffnun Před rokem +1

    What shocks me about this is that it's so obviously stupid, even to laymen, and yet this giant company with tons of expertise decides they're going to do it. Why? What value could this possibly serve?

  • @lucaspavlas
    @lucaspavlas Před rokem

    Thanks for videos like this... there is too many scammers out there - its good to know how to recognize them

  • @Eliotah
    @Eliotah Před rokem +16

    Ofcourse, google enabling hackers!!!

    • @borisvolski
      @borisvolski Před rokem

      Android 13 limiting access without pc
      And hackers already got a virus to this OS before Android 13 made it to at least half of devices, bravo

  • @furuthebat
    @furuthebat Před rokem +4

    Everthing is sus when there is an "@" in your link and it's not an e-mail.

    • @Jacob-ABCXYZ
      @Jacob-ABCXYZ Před rokem

      On that topic, that would be an interesting way to use this

  • @reality9451
    @reality9451 Před rokem

    "We already have a half dozen unlocked doors in this building. Hey! Great idea! Let's put another one in that wall over there!"

  • @GameIT.
    @GameIT. Před rokem +1

    Ty for the update thio!!!

  • @sueelliott4793
    @sueelliott4793 Před rokem +3

    I love your channel, wish there were more hours in the day for us students that have to work.

  • @jer1776
    @jer1776 Před rokem +4

    Why does a for profit corporation even have the ability to register a new top level domain? Thats a better question.

    • @Philonix
      @Philonix Před rokem

      probly the icann root servers and operations cost a lot, but its somewhat better to have that publicly funded than evil corp funding it, to keep links working and site data save., but owners of top level suffixes host own servers, to know if that is the real one, icann only needs to host the top, and that is probly not a lot of data, but that is the tlds, maybe ips are a lot more work to keep uptodata

  • @mohamedattar4526
    @mohamedattar4526 Před rokem +1

    They fired 12000 people, probably the seniors and good one.

  • @fizixx
    @fizixx Před rokem +2

    In order to 'ID' ambiguous website names, URLs, etc, I copy the name and paste it in Notepad, as you mentioned.

  • @Lost-In-Blank
    @Lost-In-Blank Před rokem +2

    How do we change the font in the Chrome and Edge address bars (omnibars)? It appears to be stuck at the ambiguous insecure Segoe UI, where upper case i looks like lower case L. I tried to change it to a secure font, Tahoma or Verdana, but the change does affect the address bar. The setting is in Settings/Appearance/Custom Fonts, but it doesn't affect the address bar fonts.
    Fixing the font there would not solve the @ problem, but in Verdana the different foward slashes are distinct looking too.

    • @Microwave_Dave
      @Microwave_Dave Před rokem

      Easy solution - don't use Chrome or Edge. Use a browser that actually cares about your security.
      There is no reason why anybody should ever recommend Chrome to anybody else.

  • @psylentrage
    @psylentrage Před rokem +1

    Thank you for this and just "Oh Dear!"😮😅

  • @haroldcruz8550
    @haroldcruz8550 Před rokem

    Never attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by malice.

  • @xSqr_
    @xSqr_ Před rokem +3

    Bro I swear I like your videos you the best

  • @WNH3
    @WNH3 Před rokem +3

    Surely the point is, all those defenses of this new practice are just hand waving. How 'bout you just not do something stupid to begin with, Google?

  • @BrutusMaximusAurelius
    @BrutusMaximusAurelius Před rokem +1

    Just because of the confusion this shouldn’t be a thing.

  • @Head2Tow
    @Head2Tow Před rokem

    I blocked these last night but can't manage every employee's home firewall.

  • @michaelmarx1405
    @michaelmarx1405 Před rokem +3

    Just retype the domain in the browser and disable autodownload. Risk mitigated.

    • @LabArlyn
      @LabArlyn Před rokem

      This is a nice solution I often use.

    • @lxp
      @lxp Před rokem

      Not much use to a novice

  • @BlenderRookie
    @BlenderRookie Před rokem +3

    Yeah, I don't think @Google thought this one through.

  • @CyberBeep_kenshi
    @CyberBeep_kenshi Před rokem +1

    Been saying for over 25 years as an ICT prof. That hiding file extensions as a default was incredibly stupid. Making the end users dumber thanks to m$, apple and google...... practically criminal
    To be clear though: 99.999% of all companies block zip in mail anyways. And some people will click anything really....

  • @cyrilio
    @cyrilio Před rokem +1

    What if there was an extensions that prevented any URLs that have an @ sign? How many sites use these kind of URLs?

  • @zxuiji
    @zxuiji Před rokem +3

    2:26, Simple browser fix, just don't treat anything with a protocol at the start as an email address, doesn't matter how many email addresses that break, they'll just have to get special exceptions made for them, or they just stay broken, either way the browser needs some sort of protection against the hack even if it means inconvenience for an unlucky few

    • @cameron7374
      @cameron7374 Před rokem +2

      It's not an email address, it's a username for a website.

    • @zxuiji
      @zxuiji Před rokem

      @@cameron7374 That's still an email address in short form. Either way the URIs in question are neither and are supposed to be just normal URLs hence the need for the browser to have more robust checks anyways. I'll admit if I was still naive enough to think that there's no way a simple URL could be made to be interpreted differently by the vs the browser, I would probably have done just simple checks too, now a looped string compare instead of character compare is needed to protect against such attacks

  • @Capt-Intrepid
    @Capt-Intrepid Před rokem +3

    Quad9 is one of the best, if not the best, free security DNS providers. Reviews and tests have shown they have the most comprehensive malware and phishing blocking available.

    • @endeavor911
      @endeavor911 Před rokem +2

      Yes, they have the best malware and phishing filtering and they're also Swiss-based non-profit. They have servers worldwide in more than 200 locations in 90 nations.

  • @beforedrrdpr
    @beforedrrdpr Před rokem +1

    Thanks, the explanation was really thorough

  • @dodo-rp3dh
    @dodo-rp3dh Před rokem +2

    Google: Understood. Instead of canceling ".zip," we will create the ".dll" TLD

  • @freecycling6687
    @freecycling6687 Před rokem

    The rationale of the truly myopic: "Hey, there's already problems, so what if we make one more?!!"

  • @ledgeri
    @ledgeri Před rokem +3

    I would like to have a FONT when the similar unicode characters, and hiddens ones, etc are understanably different than the valid ones!... Anyone?

  • @user255
    @user255 Před rokem +1

    I'm not personally worried about this, but how do I explain this to my mother...

  • @TheSwaroopB
    @TheSwaroopB Před rokem

    Many times, the URL is so large that you can't even see it fully in the bottom bar. We may just check the first few letters to somewhat verify the target.
    Gosh, such a security nightmare this is.

  • @Jackie815
    @Jackie815 Před rokem +4

    So the top engineers in a top tech company can't figure it out 😕

    • @fredericapanon207
      @fredericapanon207 Před rokem

      @Jack, the engineers had nothing to do with that decision. Marketing all the way.

  • @TradieTrev
    @TradieTrev Před rokem +3

    Good to see you using your status to protect others. Most suss thing I seen was dodgy github links.

  • @ambicioustrader9546
    @ambicioustrader9546 Před rokem +1

    Refund scammers be like
    “write this down!!!”

  • @downundarob
    @downundarob Před rokem +1

    yeah, the Sun Audio file caused so much confusion in Gopher for any Australian site back in the day.

  • @Addi_the_Hun
    @Addi_the_Hun Před rokem +6

    Jfc they must have seen this coming? Yet they chose to go threw with this?

  • @nicknorthcutt7680
    @nicknorthcutt7680 Před rokem

    It's just crazy to me how google would do something this reckless. It's insane to me.

  • @8randomprettysecret8
    @8randomprettysecret8 Před rokem +1

    Commonly used file names shouldn’t be registered as top level domains. This is a problematic situation. Major red flag 🚩

  • @berkkrkc09
    @berkkrkc09 Před rokem +16

    Google isn't Google anymore. They see people as just money.

    • @MeroSany
      @MeroSany Před rokem +6

      I think Microsoft like that too, Am I right?

    • @idan678
      @idan678 Před rokem

      @@MeroSany for real.. win11 spyware bloatware edition is f*ing BS with their force account

    • @TorutheRedFox
      @TorutheRedFox Před rokem

      @@MeroSany yup

  • @m3talh3ad18
    @m3talh3ad18 Před rokem +5

    But isn't this better than the alternative, Thio?
    Google could will be held accountable if they sell .zip to malicious personnels. If this Top Level Domain was launched by any other lesser known company (the alternative), they couldn't be held as accountable, right? Sorry if I'm being ignorant.

    • @andygardiner6526
      @andygardiner6526 Před rokem

      Google will sell domains like any other TLD owner - there's no other reason to own it apart from control. AFAIK no other TLD owner has ever been held responsible for registration of domains by "malicious personnels".

    • @Liggliluff
      @Liggliluff Před rokem +1

      Is the company held accountable who sold the tools that the criminal used for malicious intent? I don't think so.

  • @helmuthuber2263
    @helmuthuber2263 Před rokem

    I wasn‘t aware of that risc, thank you very much.

  • @MudakTheMultiplier
    @MudakTheMultiplier Před rokem +1

    Definitely forwarding this to my companies IT department!

  • @edison3571
    @edison3571 Před rokem +5

    Let me know if I am wrong a zip file needs to be extracted, so if you see this and the file does not have to be extracted this should set the alarm bells going off. The only reason I can come up with is they are trying to make all zip files suspicious.

    • @Adriethyl
      @Adriethyl Před rokem

      There are way too many people on the internet that are dumb asf. They might not even notice at all.

    • @xe-wf5iv
      @xe-wf5iv Před rokem

      They couldn't even make it a self-extracting zip either. Because even the AV baked into windows would instantly flag the file as malicious.