Full tour of the Lightship L1 All Electric RV with 300 miles of Range

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2024

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  • @josephdonnaway5755
    @josephdonnaway5755 Před rokem +31

    Low clearance with exposed underside components will be subject to road hazards, especially on Forest Service or BLM roads. Need a full belly pan.

    • @dwidlund
      @dwidlund Před rokem +1

      Seems like a good candidate for an electric suspension lift for off-road clearance

    • @Mck499
      @Mck499 Před rokem

      @@dwidlund there's barely any ev lifts and I doubt anything able to serve this exist

    • @cypvh74
      @cypvh74 Před rokem +5

      To be fair, this is a prototype, and I would expect they are going to clean that up and enclose it all with an underbody shield for aero. But for showing it off, you know people want to see all the cool stuff underneath.

  • @JP-zb5gw
    @JP-zb5gw Před rokem +11

    We spend about 5 months of the year camping pulling about 40,000 miles, with the majority of that time either boondocking or at basic sites; so, we were greatly intrigued by the L1. We have not seen it in person, only viewed the reviews and videos. My takeaway is that the camper is wonderfully designed for aesthetics but lacks basic functionality requirement of long-term camping. I could easily see taking it out for the weekend, but not for an extended trip - certainly not a 3-4-month sojourn. I will not address the Pros (too long a list), rather focus on the apparent practical drawbacks - please correct me if I'm wrong as we really would consider this camper without these drawbacks:
    Where do you put your stuff? There is little room for clothes. I see no provision for any hanging closet space. You'd have to approach a 3-month trip like you were flying overseas - packing very efficiently... The only real useable kitchen storage space are the drawers and compartments on the curbside. The depth of those drawers is quite limited. Most marketed campers today have slide outs which allow for cabinets with much greater depth (hence space). When you compare the floorplans of say a 19' Lance to the L1 the amount of storage space disparity becomes immediately apparent. Of course, all camper's promotional shots show spartan sleek interiors. Enter any long-term camper's unit and unless they have a massive camper, it is fully crammed with stuff to make 4 months on the road possible. Ask yourself where the pillows, sheets, and blankets required will disappear to... There simply isn't enough internal storage space in the L1. That also extends to the exterior. It shares the same drawback as Airstreams - very limited exterior storage. (There's a reason you see Airstreams being pulled by pickups and SUVs with their rear compartments fully packed with gear.) One limited height pass through is not going to cut it. See all that stuff set up outside the unit during camping? Where did that get pulled out of??
    How about heating it? The southwest desserts get cold in the winter; snow is not uncommon. The entire upper section is basically not insulated. I'm assuming the mini split is about a 10K BTU unit that will draw about 700 W. Let's say you drive 300 miles and pull into a great BLM spot. It's now dark, cold, and your batteries are almost empty - you now have to choose to heat your food or maybe your camper. I don't see how that would work. Can you turn off the drive wheels and save your batteries at the expense of gas mileage? If so, then that's workable, but why have the extended drive capability at all? I guess you could get the extended drive and shut it off halfway to keep a reserve. But without propane, you better pray that the second day is not cold and raining.
    How about long-term reliability? Notice the multiple fans that cool the battery packs exposed under the unit; not to mention everything else exposed. Our undercarriage takes a beating. I'm skeptical the L1's would survive. I sure wouldn't want to have to pick skunk bits out of the cooling fans! :) You could surely make it into the Empire Ranch grasslands BLM, but I'm betting one trip into the BLM south of Ajo, AZ would destroy something underneath and perhaps rack it so hard that the lift mechanism may malfunction. The promotional video shows it circling a remote rocky hilltop in the middle of the wilderness. Ask yourself how did they manage to haul that 7,500 lb low clearance beauty up there? Was the location only a couple hundred feet off a nice black top road?? One short steep grade change in the road and you might leave your black tank permanently attached to a rock in the road 27 feet behind you.
    What about weight distribution? They clearly have put the massive battery weight centered on the axles. The black tank is at the very back and the water tank is at the front. If you want to boondock you have to have a full water tank and empty black and grey tanks to start with. This setup puts you at max tongue weight to start and you will then transition to minimum tongue weight as you camp. Seems quite undesired. Just about everyone take bikes with them. Can you hang ebikes off the back? When you do hang two hundred pounds of e-bikes and rack 27 feet away from the hitch, what happens to the tongue weight?
    The younger designers must be applauded for their ingenuity, innovation and creativity, but they clearly don't have the first-hand experience at long-term boondocking that us retired old farts have. I'm really not trying to tear down the concept and prior to a closer look thought seriously about putting in a deposit; but I just can't see this trailer fitting our needs. It would clearly excel at impressing everyone at your camping location, but I am very skeptical of being able to comfortably live in it past a three-day weekend. It seems to fill the niche of someone who would buy an Airstream for short excursions. If you've made up your mind to buy an Airstream, you've already decided against a slide out and dealt with the limited exterior storage space, but the other aspects still need to be addressed. There's a HUGE Wow factor, but equally huge practical downsides.

    • @Mpr47276
      @Mpr47276 Před rokem +2

      You perfectly summarized my functional concerns

    • @snowsims146
      @snowsims146 Před 10 měsíci +1

      It’s probably not going to replace a fifth wheel rver. Also, this is just a prototype. I’m sure they will close up the underbelly, especially since it exposes the batteries which could be potentially dangerous if punctured.

    • @magforce
      @magforce Před 2 měsíci +1

      Good job! Expensive up front and replacement batteries are never exposed and since there are no oil changes or engine transmission scales of economies… we are stuck with a difficult expense performance ratio!
      In full disclosure… I was a very early Depositor, because (a) I have the money for toys and (b) would use it more for a semi-permanent Cottage versus Camper or Boon docking, so I would not be the major demographic!
      They just secured a Series B investment in January 2024 and that is good… apparently it will be used for building a production facility, but…
      …there are two significant problems to date:
      1) as a Depositor, I haven’t heard a word of any kind from the company, none, nada, nothing, and…
      2) was not given an opportunity to invest, probably because they sold their investment pitch for major Equity guys!
      I am an early investor in Tesla, BOXABL, Bitcoin and a number of insider innovations including ARK family, yet…
      …Lightship seems bogged down in selling to the general public like selling electric products, pull truck capacity improvements and charging from the trailer, but complete reliance on Solar with no external charging or generator assist, charging from truck alternators…
      …the Founders are simply electric romantics, with very little knowledge of actual RV needs, marketing or running a business!
      Clever is clever, but they have a long way to go before even I would buy one!

    • @Elgin2Strathmann
      @Elgin2Strathmann Před 21 dnem

      They need savvy and experienced RV’ers like yourself to be involved in the design of any trailer like this. First pass it looks great, but knowing what happens on the road and when camping, there’s a lot of areas in need of improvement.

  • @ColinWatts
    @ColinWatts Před rokem +9

    If it's really going to have DC Fast Charging, it will need a plug at the very rear. How else would you get it close enough to a DCFC without backing it in? Anything else would block virtually all the parking spots. In fact, it'd be best to probably have a DC Fast charge in the very rear as well as a J1772 port at the tongue (for Lightning owners or similar).

  • @LifeIsAJourney4Us
    @LifeIsAJourney4Us Před rokem +9

    Not going boondocking in that with such low clearance and all the critical components exposed. This thing is never going to leave the pavement the way it is. Bathroom sink is terrible. Not even worth having. Having to assemble and disassemble beds every days is a pain. If only the back window opens in the bathroom this is too much of just a viewing RV….no real air. Not a fan of a rain shower. Terrible for rinsing long hair, always pouring on your head and depending on your height might be good or bad. Gee whiz why make the table electric. Just one more thing to break. I think I will stick with my truck and an offroad trailer that has offroad suspension and can go far away where these trailers will never see. Then I will open up my windows with the screens in the morning and evening taking in the fresh air, roll into my bed that is always a bed to sleep to the sounds of crickets outside…..this trailer is just a rolling electric gondola that will cause someone to spend most of their travels charging their car AND their trailer.

    • @sassyd8738
      @sassyd8738 Před rokem

      Just for looks and a disappointment to me really was liking it

  • @American_Energy
    @American_Energy Před rokem +5

    Thanks for the video!!
    What I’d like to see:
    - Increase solar output, primarily through folding awning panels, ideally ~7kW
    - Decrease on-board battery size for cost. Need 2 Powerwalls max.
    - Scrap on-board motor, instead opt to have bidirectional charging interface with lead vehicle while driving… ie, solar powered driving to increase range of vehicle rather than self-propelled trailer (for cost).
    - Better privacy / window covering
    Still, awesome product!!! I’ve been daydreaming about designs for an electric camper for years, really cool to see a company make one!!

    • @brianrsmith
      @brianrsmith Před rokem +1

      Well, at this point, it looks like they've made exactly one. There are some painted plywood edges visible in that video, and the dishwasher is just a Fisher & Paykel DishDrawer.
      I don't think they can increase the solar much. 7kW would be more than double, which would require (in the absence of some miraculous breakthrough in solar panels) more than double the surface area. That thing is already pretty big (and heavy) for a trailer. The weight would also be improved with a smaller battery.
      Charging the tow vehicle in motion would be awesome... but you'd need to get all the BEV manufacturers on board to make that go, and then develop standards through the usual standards bodies, etc. I don't see it happening for a decade or more. It's a low-priority feature at this point.
      Did you see the electrically opaqued windows in the video? Seems a bit silly to me (constant power draw), but I think they're aiming at the luxury gizmo early adopters.

    • @pvman2
      @pvman2 Před rokem

      Don't forget that the drive motor can assist ICE powered vehicles, and increase their range, too.

    • @cypvh74
      @cypvh74 Před rokem +1

      Most EVs have an safety interlock that prevents putting it in drive while it is plugged in and charging.

  • @jonatamaniuk
    @jonatamaniuk Před rokem +4

    Honestly I think it’s a great first go. I think if I were looking at something like this I would want it designed for more sleeping spaces with at least one more private / permanent bedroom. Like the effort to help increase driving range by putting less strain on the tow vehicle. Like the solar, and while I do agree it could be nice to have increased solar capacity (say in excess of 7kWh) I am a realist and understand that is likely just a limitation due to the physical area. Might be cool if they had an option to plug in additional panels to the RV while camped out or even had an additional fold out to increase the surface area to add another kWh or two.
    Also definitely agree with a couple other commenters, the underside needs to be covered with a good solid sheet of metal or something. Not only to protect the components under there, but also to help with aerodynamics and truly create a smooth surface. If I’m wrong on the aero part my apologies but definitely to help protect as I’m sure with the off-grid capabilities people will take this well off the beaten path.

  • @ericroe
    @ericroe Před rokem +4

    Wonder if they'll have a 50 amp RV Plug? It would be cool if they added a plug and then had a J1772 cord in the front so you could charge your car, and have the ability to set a draw limit from the outlet, and then provide the rest of that power from the outlet to the car. E.g. Set a 40 amp max, and if the camper is drawing 12 amps, allow the car to be charged at 28 amps, but if the camper AC kicks on and is now drawing 20 amps then 20 would be available to the car. But if the campground power isn't great, be able to lower the total current to whatever you want, like 30 amps, or 36, or any number up to 40.

  • @ctwining
    @ctwining Před rokem +4

    That is really nice for a weekend or a week, but not full-time travelers. I can think of a million improvements but what a great start.

    • @sassyd8738
      @sassyd8738 Před rokem

      Right when I first saw it my idea was oh nice one to travel around with and live in but now seeing it nope just for show

  • @lauradavis3617
    @lauradavis3617 Před rokem +1

    RV travel for several years and tent camper prior. Very sleek and clean lines. Making coffee without turning a generator on is a plus. Didn’t see enough storage space either on outside or inside. Camping chairs, bbq, gas fireplace, table for outdoor cooking. Cooler for drinks as never enough storage in refig. Need tall cabinet with shelves for food, cleaning supply like dust broom, extra towel paper. Spice rack. Also when sleeping I’m charging watch, phone & iPad so need several outlets near both sides if the bed. Bathroom storage?

    • @sassyd8738
      @sassyd8738 Před rokem

      I agree is why i was disappointed you just pretty much paying for the overall look for me it would be the outside look and the fact it can pop up the inside i didnt like much of anything so it would mean to redo it and that would be more money if you want to make sure everything protected and working

  • @ericroe
    @ericroe Před rokem +5

    Since they have a drive train for the trailer, it would be nice if they made a larger trailer with more room. It seems quite compact inside. I feel like they are going for an off grid boondocking vibe, but it's very low to the ground and doesn't look like it could go off the beaten path.

    • @sassyd8738
      @sassyd8738 Před rokem

      Is why it would be more money to make it that way or more

  • @CompTechMike
    @CompTechMike Před rokem +3

    6:38 the microwave going back in so smooth, I about died. Love it! Looks amazing! Can't wait to see one in person, or in my driveway. 😄

  • @santoni58
    @santoni58 Před rokem +2

    I am an airstream owner and I agreed with Joseph, you really need to protect that underbelly from road hazards and rocks… beautiful equipment.

  • @tg9388
    @tg9388 Před rokem +6

    Any 4 season package to seal that underbelly? What type of heater and AC are they using?

  • @ZelmarDesigns
    @ZelmarDesigns Před rokem +3

    Good start, vanity sink unusable, I would replace microwave with a smart oven- I already made a deposit 👍

  • @BSnydr
    @BSnydr Před rokem +3

    Pretty cool. I would like them to add a wheel that extends from hitch. The wheel with tire would support the rvs weight. The wheel would be controlled by a remote to steer around at low speeds without connecting to vehicle. Since the drive train is already resident the steering boom with remote is the only addition

  • @MarkDelzer
    @MarkDelzer Před rokem +3

    I need real world numbers. 300 miles of assist to maintain the tow vehicles factory range is great. But I’ve seen your videos on just trying to charge the Rivian or the Lighting, I can’t imagine trying to charge both of them at the same time. How much can the solar keep up with charging its own batteries while in tow? What if you have to hit up a camp ground for the night to charge; can you get the tow vehicle and the trailer charged overnight on a single 50 amp pedestal? How does a Bowlus Heritage fit into the picture compared to this and a traditional Air Stream?

  • @zophergreen3306
    @zophergreen3306 Před rokem +3

    The drawer sliders should not wobble, indicates lack of durability. Also the the center couch corner should be rounded for ease of access and to reduce accidents.

    • @sassyd8738
      @sassyd8738 Před rokem

      Is why i said it will be more more redoing all that and more

  • @bobshattuck1634
    @bobshattuck1634 Před rokem +4

    This looks like a job for the Electric family to test for us. Perfect size family for a test run.

    • @sassyd8738
      @sassyd8738 Před rokem

      yea but more expensive if they want to have it look like a house an the way it looks ugghhh expensive

  • @Wandering_Bear
    @Wandering_Bear Před 20 dny

    Well, it looks fantastic. I'm just sad I live in NZ as it will certainly take some time before it may be available here. At a time when housing is so overpriced everywhere, it would be a great alternative to buying a home for literally millions in many places. The Lightship will be wonderful for retirees who often use caravans as a main residence here in NZ because we have so many wonderful, inexpensive natural camping areas. After retirement you can literally camp at a different beach or forest every day if you want. (We don't allow beaches to be owned, except for ports). I would love to tow one of these behind my own EV when I retire.

  • @Ambot51
    @Ambot51 Před rokem +3

    Lack of window screens is a very West Coast design aesthetic.😉

    • @brianrsmith
      @brianrsmith Před rokem

      Windows can be electrically opaqued.

    • @Ambot51
      @Ambot51 Před rokem

      @@brianrsmith I meant actual screens, aka, a mosquito barrier.🦟

    • @pocket779
      @pocket779 Před rokem +2

      @@Ambot51 I probably wouldn't open the window fully without having a screen to stop all the insects from having a heyday inside the camper.

  • @eyoung6943
    @eyoung6943 Před rokem +2

    Drawers with no sides - that’s just asking for problems to open/close them. Things get jostled and fall over when driving around. Deep sides are really helpful for that.
    The first thing I noticed was the impractical clearance. Even flat gravel roads could be an issue. Mountain boondocking would be absolutely a no-g0.

    • @thekenthouse6428
      @thekenthouse6428 Před 10 měsíci

      Regular campers are not the intended audience, it's for a virtue-signaling tech bro and his cohort. Once enough attention is given to this at Burning Man, it'll be discarded by the side of the road.

  • @dgv1170
    @dgv1170 Před rokem +3

    Obviously need to quickly move to NACS

  • @tangomechanic
    @tangomechanic Před rokem +1

    Needs a Cinderella incinerator toilet to become a must have.

  • @cecilmartin448
    @cecilmartin448 Před rokem +2

    Would like to see a smaller version for 2 -3 person trailer. Maybe 22'-23' with a 60 kwh battery.

  • @tz618
    @tz618 Před rokem

    Love this concept but needs changes.
    1- full belly pan protecting expensive batteries and electronics.
    2- electric suspension lift for more clearance for bumpy off road .
    3- WaterGen water from air system. This would be huge, mitigating the need to lug around all your water. At least offer this as an upgrade.
    4- more sleeping space that’s sleeps larger family and also privacy panel that comes down to make it feel more like a bedroom
    5- more storage space. Does circular couch open up for storage inside?
    6-they should work more on the exterior shape. I kind of agree with one of the commenters that it has shape of a trolley. They should round it out.
    7-more solar panels if possible
    8-bug screens
    9-ditch the microwave. replace with
    smart oven
    10-ditch the dishwasher. Anyone camping will wash their own dishes. Use the extra space for larger regular door fridge. Hate drawer fridge where everything is just dumped in.
    11- ditch sink in bathroom. It’s useless caus it’s so tiny and gets in the way. This will make the shower more comfortable. ( unless maybe a pop out sink that stays out of the way.) I’ll use the sink in kitchen.
    12-compost toilet
    13- variation of colors and textures. I don’t care for the one shown
    Finally, I would advise them to hire someone from the RV industry that is experienced with RV needs and potential problems versus just hiring ex tesla engineers

    • @snowsims146
      @snowsims146 Před 10 měsíci

      So basically a whole different trailer 🙄

  • @ProphetRay
    @ProphetRay Před rokem +1

    Electric Family Goals 👍

  • @KnKs64
    @KnKs64 Před rokem +2

    Great video, and very interesting trailer. I did not get it at first when you said 300 miles of range, and then understood that later in the video. Even though it will be hooked to a tow vehicle it will provide some of the drive to the combined trailer/tow vehicle. What happens when it runs out of range, will it then just free wheel so that you can still tow it? It reminds me of the old Hi-Lo trailers that raised and lowered. Hopefully they loan one to you guys so that you can do some real world testing in the future.
    Kent

  • @CRatcliffe
    @CRatcliffe Před rokem +1

    After looking at airstreams. They specifically design a latch system into all their drawers and cabinets in order to avoid them opening when turning etc, these drawers don’t seem to have that so I’ll be curious to see how that would be on a long trip.

  • @lisasoto5127
    @lisasoto5127 Před rokem +1

    Is the RV equipped with ac/heating? What about the number of interior/exterior outlets and locations? Another convenient idea to incorporate would be that the left-side interior storage compartments come with an adjustable shelf/shelving inside and outer safety latches. How many overhead compartment bags are included? Additionally, the kitchen sink should have a built-in soap dispenser and fitted cutting board top. The bathroom sink should be bigger with a built-in soap dispenser. Is the fabric used for cushions, etc washable and/or sun-protected similar to a Sunbrella-type fabric with different color choices/options, and come with extra cushions for the dinette table-top when used for a bed? Another feature that this RV should also be equipped with is outdoor retractable awnings for shade and shelter on both sides of the front door for a seamless 27 ft-long cover. For the price tag, more/additional thoughtful features are necessary...innovative concept and a very cool design inside and out, however.

  • @nameberry220
    @nameberry220 Před rokem +1

    If 300 miles of range in road mode, how many miles of range would it be in camp mode? How worthwhile is the hi lo function.

  • @Collingwoodharbour
    @Collingwoodharbour Před rokem +1

    Since it has an independent drive, will it come with a remote control for moving it around without a vehicle? We've got a "Caravan Mover - small electric motors on the wheels" with our current trailer, which is great for positioning the trailer exactly where you want it on a site or hooking up by yourself. Just need to attach a small wheel assembly to the nose before unhooking from the TV. Difficulty might be that it would need to put one side in forward drive and the other in reverse at the same time to spin it.

  • @carperdiem8754
    @carperdiem8754 Před rokem +2

    How big are the tanks?

  • @stinson87
    @stinson87 Před 11 měsíci

    being an avid RV'er i see this as a fishbowl of death... so many windows means massive heat, at 27ft you would need two 12k mini splits to cool with that much glass anywhere south of Canada. I like the concepts, but if most of their team does not travel and explore by RV already... I would not support the business. You have to be active in the hobby/lifestyle to make a truely capable device... yes it looks great, lots of windows, nice features... but I don't know of many locations to enjoy that view that this low clearance long trailer will be able to go...

  • @kurtsband
    @kurtsband Před rokem

    If it had variable electric assist you could have part of the load carried by the truck for extended range, then would be viable for long trips without stops.

  • @thomasdanielmincarelli4590

    Very very nice!< Hope I get to check one out soon!

  • @snowsims146
    @snowsims146 Před 10 měsíci

    Some of these comments are so painful and lack research, equal comparisons, or basic RV knowledge.
    1)it’s a prototype
    2)it’s 27ft trailer people (not a fifth wheel)
    3)it’s a prototype
    My only question, after watching 3 videos on this trailer. Where is the TV? No one seems to go over this in any of the videos I have watched.

  • @But1332
    @But1332 Před rokem

    Really intrest3d in how it will act when an nomal electric cwr pulls this multi ton thing

  • @ShawnMKouri
    @ShawnMKouri Před rokem

    When you do the live video tomorrow, ask them if they can make an all electric motorhome. Maybe something like an all electric class B or class C motorhome with an upper bed over the drivers area and a slide out. Or if they make some thing like those super C rVs with four slide outs and an upper bed over the drivers area, maybe they can do that. And tell them that the Tesla semi truck, because the battery pack is so big, the Tesla semi would probably make a perfect all electric class C motorhome. Either way and upper bed over the drivers area and slide outs are a must, and big windows

  • @SirrVixx
    @SirrVixx Před rokem

    Need to get a step back bmview of the inside.

  • @rallyvincent6152
    @rallyvincent6152 Před rokem

    The only thing missing is privacy for the master bedroom.

  • @colinkelley6493
    @colinkelley6493 Před 6 měsíci

    Can it be disconnected from the car, and maneuver itself into a camping space?

  • @jndtexas
    @jndtexas Před rokem

    We own a 2021 27 foot Airstream Flying Cloud, and can't wait for an electric propulsion system. For its size, the Lightship is not very useful for those of us who need to work on the road. It's seats don't look like they would be comfortable for those who have to work for hours, and becuase it telescopes, it's storage is inadequate. It's bathroom is too small, and I would prefer a larger refrigerator instead of a small dishwasher. Right now, the undercarriage is not ready for the real world, and of course, the real issue is who will be able to repair these babies when things break. Great prototype, but you need to ditch the telescoping feature if you want to appeal to airstream owners.

  • @tomgray971
    @tomgray971 Před rokem

    Interesting concept but having RV'd for decades, I see a lot of issues. No ventilation, no screens so when that mirror is up, welcome in the bugs. We often camp in cool weather - where's the heater? Needs at least a Fantastic Fan.

  • @philsmock4943
    @philsmock4943 Před rokem

    Wow. So cool.

  • @paulstewart1626
    @paulstewart1626 Před rokem

    Awesome video, very interesting concept.

  • @bu_muawiyah
    @bu_muawiyah Před rokem

    what does they mean by it has a 300 mile range? it is getting towed. I don't understand

  • @brandongrenier1141
    @brandongrenier1141 Před rokem +1

    I would buy this instead of a house!

  • @popeyeandy959
    @popeyeandy959 Před rokem

    Can you put the drive unit in neutral so I can keep pulling father than the short limited range? Doesn't look like much access for weight distribution bars, especially for something like the Pro Pride 3P. Is there some sort of shower curtain/door or is the whole bathroom the shower stall? I would like it longer as it would be crammed as all get out with 4-6 people hanging around inside at night or while it's raining. I do like the no rubber roof - hate them leaky things.

  • @shelleysmith6667
    @shelleysmith6667 Před rokem

    How is this for off road camping?

  • @michaelholotuk8312
    @michaelholotuk8312 Před rokem

    seems like its going to be quite a long time before people get on the electric wagon. say you buy a tesla cyber truck for 70,000$ plus un USD
    then your going to buy this trailer ( which I for one would not - does not suit my requirement) but for argument reasons, 125,000 USD to start on this model
    the costs for this set up does not out weigh costs of gasoline or diesel. not to mention how long will this take to charge between the truck and trailer set up?
    in conclusion - The Technology is not up to where I would like especially from a cost perspective. I am not going to go into huge amount of debt to change over to electric drive

    • @AllElectricFamily
      @AllElectricFamily  Před rokem

      Perfect! Less demand for those of us excited for the switch. :)

  • @claritovirata3504
    @claritovirata3504 Před rokem

    Is Lightship L1 park itself by remote.

  • @cherylmiller2510
    @cherylmiller2510 Před rokem +1

    no mention of safety / manual override systems. If the basic functions aren't secured in the event of (inevitable) electrical glitch then it will become a veery expensive lump of glass

  • @cypvh74
    @cypvh74 Před rokem

    Would want to see different interior color pallet. Something warmer with wood and earth tones.

  • @CharlesAnsman
    @CharlesAnsman Před rokem +4

    They need to double the battery storage to be able to boondock more then 24 hours in hot or cold climates

    • @mnotlyon
      @mnotlyon Před rokem +5

      An 80kwh battery will run an electric heater for over 2 days, even if the solar isn't working.

    • @CharlesAnsman
      @CharlesAnsman Před rokem

      I think you’re gonna need a lot more than one electric heater to heat that travel trailer especially with all that glass, and how about all of your other electrical needs Iike cooking, refrigeration, water heating, etc.

    • @mnotlyon
      @mnotlyon Před rokem +3

      @@CharlesAnsman You should probably do a little math, and find out what a mini split is.
      Granted, this camper isn't designed for freezing weather, but most people don't camp in that kind of weather.

    • @jonatamaniuk
      @jonatamaniuk Před rokem +1

      @@CharlesAnsmanhonestly gotta say this does not look like a cold weather camper. Not to mention, I would expect they’d go with a heat pump over a standard electric heater which will be much more efficient. Had one in my last apartment, it heated and cooled the entire space quite well and cost about the same as running an AC all day (so low energy usage). Heat pump worked great through all the temperatures I experienced here in Canada. But 3kWh of solar on the roof for recharging the onboard battery and whatnot I think should be ample for the average person’s purposes. It’s more likely fresh and grey / black tank sizes will be the limiting factors instead of the battery capacity.

    • @mitchellbarnow1709
      @mitchellbarnow1709 Před rokem +1

      @@mnotlyon You’re a smart man, Dave!

  • @adminteam4408
    @adminteam4408 Před rokem

    Is there a pet climate mode like the Tesla's have? Also - is there an install option for a small oven instead of a microwave?

  • @DavidKitchin
    @DavidKitchin Před rokem

    Thank you for the walkthrough!
    Did they say anything about fresh/gray/black tank sizes?

    • @DavidKitchin
      @DavidKitchin Před rokem

      I found a longer walkthrough where Ben mentions that the tank sizes are TBD, but there's a brief shot of the actual tablet app that uses 50 fresh / 35 gray / 30 black as placeholder values: czcams.com/video/uLoS01vsVvQ/video.html
      (And they have percentage gauges, which means they might be using SeeLevel monitors or something similar, which is great news)
      50/35/30 sound like about the right sizes for the underbody spaces where the tanks would fit, and for the stated intent to be able to boondock for a week without hookups. And it's competitive with luxury trailers in a similar size class, like the 25ft Airstream Flying Cloud or the inTech Terra.

  • @justinb2374
    @justinb2374 Před rokem

    I"m lost, how does it have 300 miles of range, but I don't see a drivers seat.... this looks like a pull behind trailer, but how can a pull behind trailer have a range?

  • @ridemtns13
    @ridemtns13 Před rokem

    Love the idea of lowering roof for towing, my trailer is a giant sail. But why on earth would I want to open the entire wall on my bathroom? Also, outside storage doors with bottom hinges decrease access and will be broke off if they sit horizontally

    • @tz618
      @tz618 Před rokem

      Come on brother. You wouldn’t enjoy taking a shower while looking out at beautiful scenery while I’m private spot?

    • @duderlefebvre3869
      @duderlefebvre3869 Před 10 měsíci

      I think the idea of the bathroom wall opening is to able to get a surfboard, kayak...etc in to hang above the table.

  • @Blessed_Child_
    @Blessed_Child_ Před 9 měsíci

    How much does it cost?

  • @dougduncan4165
    @dougduncan4165 Před rokem

    Is the a cord that will reach from the electric charge input to the charging stations on the road?

  • @cypvh74
    @cypvh74 Před rokem

    I would want a design that blends more into the outdoors and doesn’t look like an out of place modern art piece.

  • @dougduncan4165
    @dougduncan4165 Před rokem

    When battery for drive power runs out, can it be towed like a regulr trailer?

    • @AllElectricFamily
      @AllElectricFamily  Před rokem

      Yes, but a very aerodynamic one. Even with the added weight of the battery it will still have less of a drain on the tow vehicle than a traditional trailer.

  • @michaelsmithers4900
    @michaelsmithers4900 Před rokem

    That’s sweet now I just need a hitch on my model 3 that can tow it😂

  • @chrisrunning9510
    @chrisrunning9510 Před rokem

    When something breaks where do you get it fixed

  • @boyeatsworld-vr9ci
    @boyeatsworld-vr9ci Před rokem +1

    I'm confused: How does it have a "Range". is it a Towable on a vehicle ? If it's a vehicle, how does it drive on Two centrally located axels?

    • @Teamvenomracing
      @Teamvenomracing Před rokem +1

      It has self-propel functionality. The trailer axles actually help propel it down the road, for up to 300 miles.

    • @CharlesAnsman
      @CharlesAnsman Před rokem +2

      @@Teamvenomracing That's prohibited by law to have propulsion in the trailer.

    • @Teamvenomracing
      @Teamvenomracing Před rokem +1

      @@CharlesAnsman in what states? That’s interesting. I’m assuming not all.

  • @albertandersen2327
    @albertandersen2327 Před rokem

    Very concerned about (1.) off grid. Seems like shore power is needed to charge batteries; (2.) compost toilet & no black tank are not mentioned; (3.) storage looks aparce; and (4.) better understanding of the 2 models is nevessary.
    Hoping for tge best!

    • @brianrsmith
      @brianrsmith Před rokem

      Black water tank is mentioned in the video - though we only get to see where it would be (about 8:56), it's not installed on the prototype.

  • @ROLYATATAK
    @ROLYATATAK Před rokem

    Storage?

  • @hawktrinh4931
    @hawktrinh4931 Před rokem

    Can I suggest a clothes washer instead if dishwasher

  • @bfn6ghh
    @bfn6ghh Před rokem

    Not a fan of the refrigerator. I like normal size. Also the food would be pack like a drawer. I like seeing eye level

  • @dougduncan4165
    @dougduncan4165 Před rokem

    Is there a tv?

  • @rockycata6078
    @rockycata6078 Před rokem

    $150,000!!! Don't change that and it's a 'mobile' AirBnB. If it can pass EU regs, then there's your market. Dont fail by limiting your horizons.

  • @nameberry220
    @nameberry220 Před rokem

    Can you ask them how much funding they need to raise to go in to production

  • @dougduncan4165
    @dougduncan4165 Před rokem

    Is there a twin bed option?

  • @Sheylaramos2024
    @Sheylaramos2024 Před 3 měsíci

    (Brazil,ok)qual é o preço?

  • @Southphxgal2023
    @Southphxgal2023 Před 2 měsíci

    Sits to low can’t see it for rough camping. Why leave home.

  • @AMan-io7wt
    @AMan-io7wt Před rokem +1

    Ground clearance is WAY to low. This trailer parked inthe shade (the only sane place for an RV) will produce very little power. The "300 mile range" is mostly marketing BS. This trailer is as contrary to the natural world as it gets...home.

  • @nullnvoid7
    @nullnvoid7 Před měsícem

    Is it just me or when it collapses the glass should be on the inside😅

  • @ShawnMKouri
    @ShawnMKouri Před rokem +1

    Does the RV have air conditioning?

    • @AllElectricFamily
      @AllElectricFamily  Před rokem +1

      Yes, it has heating and A/C!

    • @ShawnMKouri
      @ShawnMKouri Před rokem

      @@AllElectricFamily oh, great. That is a must. It seems like they don’t use blinds or roller shades. They use the smart, dimming ability.

  • @sassyd8738
    @sassyd8738 Před rokem

    Not fully impressed as i thought i would be when i took a look inside for the price if u want to leave it as is ok nice but if u not liking it and want to redo it I think it would be expensive not too much to like inside and outside i like

  • @phx44
    @phx44 Před rokem

    Hmm. Where to start? $125,000 price tag. No enclosed under belly. Batteries will be exposed to the cold ground, not to mention the really smooth road conditions to get to some campgrounds. This, to me, needs many improvements before it can be released for sale. I understand this a prototype but, they could have done a little more R & D before showing this to the public. Yet again another example of automobile engineering trying something new and missing the mark. I say stay in your lane.

  • @Dannyar10
    @Dannyar10 Před rokem +2

    That's gonna be tight for even 5 people. No tv? The storage for clothes above which is proprietary and modular will get expensive and inconvenient quickly imo. No outdoor features like outdoor shower, hose, or gas hookups or range.

    • @AllElectricFamily
      @AllElectricFamily  Před rokem +3

      It does have an outdoor kitchen and other features may still be added.

    • @cypvh74
      @cypvh74 Před rokem

      Personally, I go out to campgrounds and the outdoors to get away from TV. Also, people consume media these days with tablets when on the go.

  • @RayJCanPlay
    @RayJCanPlay Před rokem

    Frankly, I am sorry but to me it resembles a Trolley.

  • @nathwalsh1
    @nathwalsh1 Před rokem

    I dont like it. I like the electric capabilities and i like the way the windows black out. but if you put those features on a normal travel trailer or fifth wheel i would choose that over this thing. I need a rear kitchen type version and a big tv and a home. make that for me please.

    • @AllElectricFamily
      @AllElectricFamily  Před rokem

      Baby steps. I think this is a great start to a camper that can complement it's EV tow vehicle!

    • @snowsims146
      @snowsims146 Před 10 měsíci

      Most RVs around this size come with a 32” TV. On rare occasions you will find a 39” TV, it’s very rare!! If you want a big tv you’re looking at over 30’ trailers and most often times fifth wheels which have huge GVWRs. They often require super duty or heavy duty trucks. You’re comparing apples to oranges. Also, this is made with the electric vehicle user in mind. Try pulling a fifth wheel with an electric vehicle and your range will go from 300 miles to 100 miles.

  • @FritzyFreak
    @FritzyFreak Před rokem

    its cool but for 125k? idk bout that

  • @MrJ1mmay
    @MrJ1mmay Před rokem

    This would not survive a single trip on Michigan roads. The draws at min @7:05 look like they are already about to fall off.😊

  • @Electric_camper
    @Electric_camper Před rokem

    So it's a EV powered driven trailer 🤔
    Don't get it.
    As I don't get al the equipment you guys haul around. When you can't do without. Stay at home 😅

    • @AllElectricFamily
      @AllElectricFamily  Před rokem

      It's net zero loss some will like it and others(you) won't.

    • @Electric_camper
      @Electric_camper Před rokem

      @@AllElectricFamily there is no zero loss. The kWh the truck ain't pulling are used by the trailer. So all in all the kWh you need for the distance traveled is the same.
      When you would only go the 2-300 miles you have some benefits on charge times.

  • @harryharris-yp6mu
    @harryharris-yp6mu Před rokem

    It's a giant electric oven. When the battery hits something on the road, it malfunctions, catches on fire, and everyone inside suffers fourth-degree burns, medium well.

  • @02051970sonny
    @02051970sonny Před rokem

    Great until hail damage 🤦

  • @bswift5
    @bswift5 Před rokem

    I can’t believe it’s only $4,500

    • @tz618
      @tz618 Před rokem

      Uh.. it’s not. It starts at 125k

    • @thekenthouse6428
      @thekenthouse6428 Před 10 měsíci

      @@tz618 He's talking about the resale value

  • @jrambo7495
    @jrambo7495 Před 7 měsíci

    2:30 you're kidding! My fingernails are thicker than that flimsy storage door! Nope! Pathetic!

  • @donovandelaney3171
    @donovandelaney3171 Před rokem +1

    Too expensive. Rip off.

  • @ottof230
    @ottof230 Před rokem

    No thank you.

  • @topnotchreviewer1429
    @topnotchreviewer1429 Před rokem +1

    I question the veracity of the entire video. The assertion of "zero emissions" insults the intelligence of any brain=alive person. Wouldn't that be nice it it were true, but it's not true. If the electricity comes from natural gas or coal, there ARE emissions. You're just moving it from one place to another. Tow this 7,500 pound slug with an EV? Watch the range on your electric pick-up be cut about in half or more. If the range was 250-300 miles, now you're down 125 to 150 miles before charge time hits. Imagine driving 400 miles in a day and having to make 3-4 charging stops. Please be honest and stop claiming this "zero emissions" nonsense. Oh yeah, we haven't even started discussing the emissions created by mining to materials for the for the trailer and tow vehicle.

    • @3fsw3
      @3fsw3 Před rokem

      Haha, you’re the only one who dared ask/make reality based comments. Can’t wait until more folks buy electric cars and trucks and the grid reality hits the fan. In the meantime, until they ban my diesel Denali, I’ll continue traveling the USA in my Jayco Eagle😎🇺🇸

    • @ashh3051
      @ashh3051 Před 10 měsíci

      Meanwhile I charge my EV on 100% solar. Even my local grid is frequently powered 100% by renewables.

  • @RellChapo904
    @RellChapo904 Před rokem

    Highly disappointed with the interior