Roman Krznaric - The Six Habits of Highly Empathic People
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Cultural historian and author of 'Wonderbox: Curious Histories of How to Live' Roman Krznaric reveals how the art of empathy can not only enrich one's own life but also help to create social change.
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1. Cultivate curiosity about stranger
2. Challenge prejudices and discover commonalities
3. Get into extreme sports, i.e put yourself in others shoes; living someone else's life
4. Practise the art of conversation
5. Inspire mass action and social change
6. Develop an ambitious imagination
This is so inspiring for me. I'm 20, I'm (clearly) growing up, and I don't find much things about people who do things for others or even care about others. I'm really worried about what the world is becoming, with all the judgements and criticism like if it's something fun.. and all the selfishness.. and I don't think young people in general are concerned about what we're doing as human beings. It's like we're forgetting the little fact that we're humans! and we should be there for each other or at least help each other by not judging and understanding. Now that I know this I definitely identify myself as an Highly Empathetic Person. Without a doubt, I've always been. I strengthen my mindset everyday to be a better person for others, and so, naturally, for myself. I want to be something positive in this world, and we all could and should be, hopefully this is really becoming an era of empathy, not only for grown up people who understand this in a clearer way, but for the young. There's so much negativity towards others, so much bullying and judgement. Underneath it all, we're all equal, and worthy of love and understandment. Everyone is in their own journey and everyone is human. I thank you for this, it encourages me to keep being who I am and keep thinking about how I can be a better person for others. People like you are the ones that kind of mold the path I'm walking in. I take this words seriously. For me they hold so much truth. So thank you.
Hey man! I'm 22 and I'm in the same position as you. I'm afraid too that the emphasis on logic and reason (which I love dearly... I study math.) without using it for understanding others can be dangerous! I'm maybe a little bit more optimistic about how much people judge each other. I've found that a lot of the time, most of us all have the capacity to stretch our imaginations and to empathize with others, but our brains are just so busy all the time! If we take the time to use our imaginations, we become much more able to empathize with others, even with people we've never physically met.
I'm a student with a lot of time on her hands, and I like to think about these kinds of things... (and its seems that you do too!) I just hoped that replying to your comment might give you a little bit of hope for humanity! Peace :)
lovelouder I hear what you are saying! I will be entering my 30's next week, which isn't terribly old yet ;) But I do believe there are a few things to think about in regards to the way you are feeling.
We all perceive our experiences differently, because no other person can sensationalize in precisely the same manner. Our experiences build upon one another and we grow to form our own conclusions based on these experiences. When you see a green apple, not everyone else will see a green apple. But it is green, right? Wrong. The color green is a figment of your imagination and truly does not exist outside yourself. Then how do we all know what green is? Finding the link between what a color is and the color green is simply discovering the relationship between the two. Let's assume you and your friend both sit down to eat apples. Both apples are Gala and they came from the same bag and they are both red with a hint of green. You comment on your red apple and the hint of green, how pretty it is! But your friend insists the apples are green with a hint of red! You bicker over the color of your apples for 5 years, long after the apples have been digested and beyond recognition...but you each think you know you're right. This is similar to human relationships. Both are apples, both are red and green, both are Gala, both from the same bag. But neither of you are wrong! If your friend had said the apple tasted horrible---but you loved the rich, juicy, delicious flavor---would you assume they had bad judgement and were wrong? Or--would you consider that their body chemistry has a different balance of minerals affecting the taste--or perhaps it really is the texture that your friend disapproves, despite taste? An empathetic person would be inquisitive--would want to understand---to know why? Why is your reaction different? A person lacking empathy would not likely put themselves in their friend's shoes and begin asking questions--they are more likely to insist who is wrong and who is right and may go so far as to try to prove it. My scenario here is loosely based and hypothetical, it isn't anything I've researched or studied, but it is what I understand about my own experiences.
Also, I would like to mention that our actions and attitudes are often so easily imprinted by those we surround ourselves with. For example, I felt much like an outsider, an outcast, a black sheep as a child...without understanding why until I was much older...a young child surrounded by many other children in households of mothers and fathers and grandparents close in age to their spouses of proportionate generations...the average working class age parents with a child or two. While each of my childhood friend's personalities were unique, their judgments, choices, interests, mostly similar. Mine were off in left field somewhere--and even to this day I feel that way, but to a much smaller extent--but the thing is, my parents were 36 years apart! My father was much older than my mother....very much in love, they were, until my father passed...and very much was my little family normal to me---because it was what I personally experienced, no one else I knew. My father had a classiness, gentlemanly, "Mr. Rogers" nature about him as his generation of men often exuded. He was retired and stayed home with my sister and I, affording us star gazing for the dippers and coaching us on our square roots and capitals. The impression he left on me was vast and different and evermore loving! This experience made me always a bit of a free-thinker, a bit evolved beyond my age expectations, and a bit of a loner....a loner because those I saw around me, whilst my own age, were not as empathetic. I grew to embrace the differences early in my childhood and not shun them away as though they were wrong. It is only through those differences and understanding them that we can embrace the relationship between our human relationships that actually make us similar. Perhaps I advise widening your scope of friends you surround yourself with to something broader to find like minds, otherwise connecting on a level with them that deepens an understanding about something in your life that made you feel outside their realm?
I surely could continue this conversation for hours, alas this reply is plenty long enough...but somehow, someway, I hope my insight has helped you.
I agree with you!
Roman, there is a whole other realm to explore around this topic. It is in regard to the bigger question 'who am I' and what am I responsible for. With out the clarity and integrity of a clear sense of self, we cannot even know what empathy is. Knowing what is 'me' and what is 'not me', knowing what is a projection out there of myself, versus what is really happening for the other. At the deepest level we will bump into paradox as we realize our interconnectedness, however, it is key that we discover our own unique self. Empathics that are hyper sensitive and over aroused/overwhelmed, are living in a state of consciousness where their nervous system is unable to sense what is 'me', and/or what is dangerous... most of it is projection. Until we can differentiate, we are just in an entangled soup. This is not introspection, it is a form of connecting with ourself as energy and being able to discern from there.
Leanora EmbodyTruth Your comment reminds me of the recent research done by Sara Lazar at Harvard on how the brain rewires itself through the act of meditation. Read up on her work if you haven't already---it's so interesting! Her research is proving that simply meditating over a period of time--even in just brief moments a day--can shift the way our brain grows and communicates with our body and self. Simply taking a moment to be silent..sit still...and focus on one's breath....feeling your own energy and feeling a sense of self can change the way we perceive and project.
this is truly important when trying to make social political change, highly recommended to watch
Another way to improve empathy is by reading books, specifically books in the first-person perspective to understand the character's thoughts as if they were the reader's own. I find that writing is easier for people to believe than talking to someone for some reason, though they both may believable.
Secondly, sometimes introspection is necessary when being empathetic because the empath may feel unbalanced that they listen so much to others while others do not return the same amount of empathy, and perhaps understandably so. In this case, successful introspection may be very effective in relieving these stresses as we can treat ourselves, or a journal or diary, as an empathic entity.
***** I like this book a whole lot...as much for an adult as for children....and goes very closely with the Montessori ways demonstrated at my daughter's preschool a few years ago.
www.amazon.com/How-Full-Your-Bucket-Kids/dp/1595620273/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_y
"How Full Is Your Bucket?"
***** Sorry for the late reply! Did not see your comment there. My favorite first-person book titles are not necessarily about empathy if that's what you were looking for. XD Just any first-person fiction book will help with empathy! My favorite author is Pierre Boulle though. :) Interestingly, his main characters are very objective and enjoy analyzing and empathizing with people, for example the doctor in The Bridge over the River Kwai. Great question!
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Really excellent talk. Thank you Roman, thanks RSA
Wonderful presentation! Thank you Roman Krznaric!
Empathy is created by sharing. We need a shared language and culture.
I am an empath, and this sounds exactly how I am. It is NOT easy, and I do get overloaded sometimes, but that's ok. I love you all.
You are worth it.
We usually have sympathy to people similar to us. Empathy involves a deep understanding of another person. Again, how can I have empathy to someone I do not relate to? We usually feel sympathy first, then empathy. Then again, there are people who are uniquely good at emphatizing with others.
Totally agreed! This is exactly what I try to live by.
@katastrophy and @poseclop: Thanks so much - so glad you enjoy them!
The main trouble is, not every person has the capacity for true empathy. We need to understand that it is very hard work to do this, and it does take energy and attention and even the right brain circuitry. But it is the most important quality of a human being, and empathy is the key to knowing right from wrong, good and evil. We put too much effort and energy now into our intentions, but that is introspection and selfish. We have to know what is the EFFECT of our actions. If you realize that you have not the capacity to truly understand what those effects may be, then it may be time to consult someone who does have that understanding. There's no shame in admitting we have hit upon the limits of our capacity, but if you continue acting without understanding, then you may be doing irreparable harm.
RSA never lets me down.
Thank you for this talk. I am a future social worker and this kinda helped me expand my perspectives.
Its not hard to relate to someone else, You are a Human Being and so are they...
I cannot believe he actually said:"empathize with those in power" (13:55) one usually feels empathy towards the people who suffer or lack something that we have. This is very much like asking the poor man to empathize with the rich guy, or like asking a bullied kid to empathize with his bully. Empathy starts at the top, not the bottom.
THIS IS SO INSPIRING. THANK YOU FOR THIS.
Great Video Daphne Cotton. INCREDIBLE THANKS YOU ●BROWN FAMILY. 💜
This is brilliant! Thank you for sharing :)
I'm very empathic, but only because I want to be 100% certain that someone deserves my hatred.
thank you
If you whant to be empathic you must first understand yourself. You must cultivate curiosity about your own feelings, what makes you feel good or bad and why.
For those of you who also had a hard time reading the power point titles...
Highly Empathetic Folks:
1) cultivate curiosity about strangers
2) challenge prejudices and discover commonalities
3) get into "extreme sport"
4) practice the art of conversation (listen and share)
5) inspire mass action and social change
6) develop an ambitious imagination
It took me a while to not judge anyone, especially those who I have criticized in the past. The more that I learn about people is that unless I am in another's shoes, don't
judge them, because I can't be sure what I would do in their circumstances, . Also, with so many imperfections, who am I to criticize?
In theory it's a brilliant idea, I have my doubts some people can't empathize or choose not to.
***** In my own personal experience with people who lack empathy---they once were empathetic, but as a defense mechanism, created a barrier of some sort to prevent getting hurt somehow....
Alternatively, brutal experiences as young children can play a major role in their emotional behavior, as such, having witnessed or been victim to a terrible family life can cause overly empathetic reaction, or an extreme lacking of empathy, depending on the person.
Finally, there are chemicals in the brain that affect how we think, feel, perceive...and they so often are affected easily by medications, exposures to toxins, imbalances, and lack of healthy choices.
I have been diagnosed as highly sensitive person (HSP) or sensitive intuitive and the overwhelming drive to fight for social change, to end unnecessary suffering is embedded in the DNA. Because of the erection of police states over the last decade, (their purpose is brutal suppression in forcing worker to foot the bill for the economic crisis, something that can not be done democratically) I have already been jailed for exposing police corruption publicly in a number of domestic violence cases. This happens because one must be totally objective and address the root cause directly, particularly as a HSP other wise you will end up an emotional mess. Most things exist in contradiction, because of my high level of emotional empathy, when formulating strategies etc I have to stand outside of what it is I am dealing with and understanding all the forces that are at play, emotion is taboo here, you must make decisions based on the prevailing conditions.
What is being proffered here goes back pre Marx to hegel and kant and it was a battle for out between Hegel and Marx, in fact it is impossible to talk of change without an understanding of these fiercely fought out perspectives and the revolutionary struggles of the first 40 years of the 20th century, because the level of understanding and level of theoretical perspectives that were tested practically in the heat of revolution is light years ahead of what the public know today, they know nothing at all because it has been suppressed and of the rewriting of history and hysteria campaigns, that is not possible to go into here.
Understanding the origins of the crash and the measures that need to be taken to rebuild society to meet the needs of the populace have been thrashed out formulated and ready to implement, they are covered in a century of horse manure and need to to be dug out, but the more you dig the more manure is heaped on them. Attempting change by a change in attitude has been shown to be completely bankrupt.....its like winning hearts and minds, or one kindness at a time, or charity as a means of fight poverty is a miserable failure.
Greedy people bla bla bla, that is just shite, they are the minority of narcissists that need power to validate themselves and have got it and are a huge problem that is ignored. David Cameron is a bloody psychopath so is Obama and Abbott etc. You don't have to start analysing empathy to affect change.
The vast majority of people want to live a peaceful existence free from oppression where they can follow their dreams and aspirations, while we must of course provide the practical necessities for our survival, for our enrichment and nurture as human beings.
The role empathy plays, is that of idealism, of the ideal society, that meets the criteria of freedom justice liberty. Even if you got everyone on earth to agree and set laws etc it will be a massive failure, because you do not have a socio economic system that can deliver what you want. Capitalism is nothing more than a ponzi scheme that all economic activity is carried out to extract profit...and by any means necessary. Society has to be rebuilt top to bottom, the institutions that exist today are those of an elite used to suppress the majority and are good for nothing.
Ideals are the locomotive for change, they will never facilitate it, and change will only be implemented in the heat of revolution, because of the conservative nature of the masses that will put up with just about any deprivation before they will stir...that is evident in the voting for parliamentarians, everyone of which is a war criminal and unfit to hold office. it's bewildering
I feel we need to have more empathy for are self's first that way we can have empathy for others and the environment.
I am a HIGHLY evolved empath!!! I hate what I see. I want to create wealth for people with their own home business even if I have to pay it forward!! I am strongly compelled to help people feeling better first and myself second. Please watch me closely I need lots of love and support.
Best Video on CZcams!!!
I don't know if empathy has to start at the top. I tend to pity more than hate, even those who have bullied me. My step father once beat me unconscious over not cleaning the floor right but, in the end, I was one of the only people I think I forgave and pitied him. Not an act of arrogance to show I am better, but because he will never know a close or personal connection. He is a bully and a psychopath whose brain is broken. My mother never forgave him when she found out what he had been doing
Is there any way of getting a dvd copy of this? Or a digital download to make a dvd copy? I work with the developmentally disabled and teach a training for the employees that discusses how to build real relationships and a large part of the training is on the idea of imitation and understanding the individual and this would work beautifully with the material. Thanks!
Very interessting presentation! As always, thanks for sharing these with us :)
Ace. Thankyou!!!!
Great video... easily understandable and soooo true.
1. "nurturing/cultivating curiosity about strangers/others": much better, b/c positive approach to the given issue, than the much more common knee-jerk reaction to condemn and criminalize prejudices and such. (By that, those people with that specific reaction expose themselves as lacking in terms of empathy, as being not much better than the most prejudiced people; just with a different set of prejudices: "strange = good/better/enriching" instead of "strange = bad". Thus those are not the prophets of change/progress)
btw... that guy seems to be alarmingly unaware of the needs of introverted people; when he talks about that "empathetic overarousel" (?!?) (at around 16:15), and that people can overcome that, he just ignorantly assumes that all people are after all the same and can put up with all of that if they just want to/if they just try; or that it did only happen to a small neglectable number of people ( * ) ... very reckless/prejudiced/unempathic (!) of him!
( * ) he does not explicitly label them "neglectable"; but between the lines, that is exactly how he regards them, only focusing on the extroverts that can put up with "too much", as if those are the only ones that count, and the other ones where just retarded... quite disgusting attitude, if you think about it, and a momentum of self-contradiction within his whole agenda. But that's just typical for his semi-thoughtless brand of do-gooder ("Idealist" - if there is even such a chimera, as an "extroverted idealist"; for "ideas" are actually a result of introversion!)
PyrrhoVonHyperborea It is through introversion that we as human beings learn to become extroverted. When extrovertedness comes naturally or introvertedness comes unnaturally, or vice versa, it can be so simple as the way the brain is releasing chemicals, which then can be affected by a multitude of inner and outer influence, from imbalances to toxins and medications...and even our health choices, such as whether we choose to meditate or whether we choose to complain....but regardless of whether we are introverted or extroverted, it is through the act of experience that we learn empathy whether we already have it or not. But the same can be said about losing empathy...it is possible for someone who is empathetic to no longer be so. It is possible for someone who is extroverted to become introverted. It is through our experiences, cause and reaction, that shape our choices, whether we are aware of them or not.
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( - -if you are too sensible, don't read the following paragraphs and just answer me this: -*_-what is your fuckin point?-_* (scratch that... I found some clarity further down below... you deserve everything that is coming your way!) - )
"It is through introversion that we as human beings learn to become extroverted." - wow that is stupid...
Extroversion is not a special form of introversion, nor is it a way of handling situations which can only be derived from other ways! - it's not learned, in fact, it's very often averse to learning! - extroversion is putting oneself out there, instead of salvaging things from "out there" to take it back into your self (introversion). (in contrast, pure (extreme!) introverts may have a shortage of experiences to actually learn from and then milk and over-farm the few bits of experiences that they may have; so both introversion and extroversion are important to learning many things, but the actual process of learning ("understanding", rather than "getting to know") is inherently introverted.)
"When extrovertedness comes naturally or introvertedness comes unnaturally, or vice versa, it can be so simple as the way the brain is releasing chemicals, which then can be affected by a multitude of inner and outer influence, from imbalances to toxins and medications..." - do you always blather a lot of pseudo-intellectual nonsense without actually saying anything? - is that your thing? - do you get aroused when doing this kind of nonsense?
Seriously: make a point or fuck off! .... I have 0 use (let alone respect!) for jawsmiths!
"and even our health choices, such as whether we choose to meditate or whether we choose to complain" - definitely intellectual gonorrhea ... you should consult a doctor about that!
"but regardless of whether we are introverted or extroverted, it is through the act of experience that we learn empathy" - BS. Empathy is a basic function of intelligence; we can cultivate and refine that through "experience", but that is already build upon the function itself and could not happen without it - thus experience cannot be the sublime giver of it; one has to be able to empathize first, in order to "feel someone else's pain". - "understanding it" is already intellectualization (with a lot of abstraction involved) and not actually the thing itself anymore!
Have you ever thought about why yawning is contagious? - because we are programmed to mimic those around us, and by that to be able to understand their concerns without "language"; for humanity had to communicate before there ever was any cultivated language, to understand danger and pain and concerns. You gotta be able to transmit these _ideas_ without any imagery and code (words). That is empathy! - even though we might, in modern, unnatural discussions, not see that, and only identify the refinement of empathy (and it's product; that is: any finding of it) as "empathy". that's a misconception, at least to some degree. How I phrased my sentences above (other comment[s]) may not have drawn a clear line between these two, and I'd like to apologize for that. But you just go too far, and at that point it becomes absurd, so that I had to clarify this! - all in all: we do not learn empathy; we either have it or we don't. All we can do from there is cultivating it. And whilst I cannot imagine anyone being totally devoid of the roots of empathy, the ability to cultivate it can be very lacking. Most of which with egocentric personalities (and personality disorders of such kind), like Narcissists ... and that's where the "lacking empathy" comes into play! - "higher empathy" that is; for lack of intelligence and cultivation involved, and an overly strong selfishness in place inhibiting any finer lessons [being learned] from said basic function of intelligence!
"But the same can be said about losing empathy" - that's sympathy my dear, not empathy.
"it is possible for someone who is empathetic to no longer be so." - huh? ... that doesn't even . . .
What do you mean? - that someone locks himself up to input from some specific other into his empathetic perception? - like me refusing to feel for the fears and pain for some monster like A.Hitler? - yes, that can be done. But it's never a way of "losing empathy" (if anything that would be "sympathy", don't ever get those 2 terms mixed up, they are distinctively different!) but a way of taking distance and filtering information, even looking elsewhere completely to close out an unwanted influence.
You cannot possibly unlearn empathy unless you mean the higher findings of empathy (the cultivated counterpart) in case of a severe case of Alzheimers...
"It is possible for someone who is extroverted to become introverted" - yeah... fuck you! ... this is exactly the disgustingly ignorant misconception I was talking about: extroversion is not synonymous with empathy, not in any way!
Thanks for giving this final confirmation; I much appreciate the clarity! - for the longest time whilst writing this answer I was actually worried I might be too harsh towards you. But now it is completely obvious, _where you are coming from_ and why you posted all this pseudo-intellectual garbage, this nonsensical blather, all just suiting your agenda to reinstate the very ignorant misconception that I criticized, weasel your way back in without actually addressing anything I said, refuting any of my points, bringing forth any actual arguments of your own... Thanks, asshole! - thank you very much for making it painstakingly clear what kind of person I am dealing with here!
Guess I struck too close to home for you to not try to come up with a laughable excuse for your very own disgusting bias. If you had any real talent for empathy, you would not be incapable to find it in introverted people. Only a very jaded, egocentric piece of shit would misconstrue their own personal confirmation bias to be empathy, and all those he/she cannot feel with (in lack of actual (!) empathy on one's own (!) part) as being lacking "that".
It's always the same with you beasts of egocentrism: for you other ways of thinking and feeling are either just a misconception and failed version of yourself or they just flat out do not exist; people being dumb, immoral, unempathetic, whatever! - this is the kind of ignorance and intolerance that Holocausts are build upon... It's insultingly ignorant towards introversion to use extroversion synonymously with empathy. There is no excuse for this impertinence! - and no argument has been presented in the video or by you to justify this bigotry!
"It is through our experiences, cause and reaction, that shape our choices, whether we are aware of them or not." - what a pile of BS! - and, for the most part, just totally, *humongously* besides the point!
or, in other words: that thing there isn't even a proper sentence... you start off saying one thing (if you ever actually said anything /intended to say anything / thought anything that you inaptly tried to turn into language) and switch over half way through to something completely different. - it actually gives me a real headache to read that!
Do you have some mental disorder?... honest question! - if you haven't consulted a specialist on behalf of that, maybe you should! Erratic sentences like the one above are never a good sign!
You earned my contempt!
Farewell!
PS: Don't even bother answering a second time... I see no fundament for a meaningful discussion after what you just posted!
If you don't want to accept any criticism against the retarded notion that introversion was unempathetic, so be it... but don't bother me with that!
PPS: even though we will never have any exchange of words again, maybe, to learn from your mistakes, you should consider this: extroversion and introversion are ways of dealing with our environment.
They are by no means words for "looking into the world vs. looking into oneself" - they are about "being outgoing vs. withdrawing from the world".
Extroverts feel good with many people around, like to be part of a crowd, dissolve the "I" in the "We". Introverts however feel exhausted easily with too many people around, withdraw from that a lot, think more for themselves. All great thinkers are introverts! - there are a few extroverts, who go from being great debaters to internalizing their dialectic experiences; but for the most part thinking and learning are forms of introversion (and thus strong extroverts will never become intellectuals).
If anything, the higher cultivation of empathy, cannot be achieved without introversion either (thanks to the necessary refinement of said basic function of human intelligence). I won't be as much a jackass as you are, and claim, that introversion was _thus_ synonymous for empathy (as a counterpart to your own claim); but I'd still have a stronger case for that than you for your retarded equalization of extroversion with empathy!
Now fuck off, Ignoramus!
The pleasure is all mine:D!
Kat
He is on the best way to develop Autopoiesis vs allopiesis.
What is the 6 Habits? The first few are shown, but I am curious and #5 and the last few are. I thought #5 was Rise and Fall of Empathy by what he said, but I was trying to read the screen and I think it says, "Imagine Mass Action and Social Change"?
oh, i also cry when watching a something with intense suspense... like.. sport.
I am of the Anarchist Black Cross, the Most Empathetic Movement there is in support of the "prisoner class" - it's all about change baby!!
Find Happiness in Bringing Happiness to others. Instead of The path of anarchy most humans take in pursuit of their own personal happiness
amazing!
saysi, Outrospection and introspection can be difficult to distinguish (yin yang like, even). In that, looking outwards can cast a shadow on the importance of personal action (responsibility). On the other hand one will fail to see (more than just look at) others, if one is unable to find within themselves what makes them one out of many (empathy).
The status-hungry default to outrospect-ing their internal definition of worthiness, but fail to introspect on it, and thus fail to empathize. The psychotic default to introspecting their internal definition of worthiness, but fail to outrospect on it, and thus also fail to empathize. Think win-crazed athletes/businessmen (never want to get caught) vs. some serial killers (thrilled by the prospect of being caught) vs. the "poor" yet balanced souls caught in their wakes. saysi
Orwell is one of my heroes.
Diomedes i think you are right, although i suggest you should have that experience once in your life.
wouldn't the opposite of introspection be called extraspection, not OUTrospection? Just a morphological side note.
practical people are empathic people
I am possibly a little more emphatic than average, I will give my seat, help cross the street, whatever... I guess I see and feel needs well BUT I am a good looking, clean, well dressed transgender woman and it is obvious so I cannot help anymore, most people never get close me they look scared, family and friends went away, all of them so empathy? I'm not sure anymore but one thing I know: it doesn't take much to turn it into a sad memory. I got used to being alone and I'm perfectly alright now... well most of the time but not today, otherwise I'd keep this to myself but what I really need to say is:
George Orwell had a wonderful idea...
Some very good points! Overly Empathetic. Is that an issue with its own set of symptoms and concerns?
What do you mean by "human empathy for animals"?
I don´t really think people fear you for your orientation. Some people have a prejudice against gay people. Yet, there are also some men and women out there who are not only tolerant of gays, they embrace them amont their friends, because they recognize their value as persons. The fact that you're gay should be inconsequential. I for one, can empathize with gays, because as a nerd i know what it´s like to be rejected. Gays are not abnormal, you are a part of nature, as valuable as anyone else.
First- Great video! Just an observation- I wonder if we need to 'shift' to outrospection but rather strive for a balance of introspection and outrospection? Introspection is something natural isn't it and so is outrospection? Only thing is to do it consciously eh? So, we look around us(outrospect) then we look within(introspect) and then we arrive at ideas for what one of us can do by recognising our own strong abilities? So, this is an age of all-out-spection- age of Harmony! What say?
I know enough about war, politics, and human history to know that the mass distribution of an illicit drug isn't going to put an end to war.
(cont) but I was never able to really hate him. I am a gay guy who lives in the bible belt and, after being confronted by some rather potent vitriol, I wound up crying that night because I couldn't help but feel sad about how scary the world for those who fear me for my orientation must be. It isn't learned, nor do I choose it, really - I kind of wish it wasn't so potent. I find hate and anger (feeling/being near it) extremely alarming and unbearable. Maybe I am abnormal or damaged, though.
is empathy mean to agree to disagree ?
Thank you for this great insight.
i think you answered your own question by asking if they could 'become' somebody else. mentally ill people have the ability to see things through the eyes of others, like a fictional religious character or somebody of "importance". they could literally use this same power FOR them by seeing themselves in the role of a normal functioning individual, by also empathizing with them. this couldn't be done arbitrarily though, until the person realized the value of being a "normal" functioning person
Could you please explain exactly what you mean? ;)
very reaffirming.
Somebody have the translation (Spanish)?
would you care to elaborate?
What are* the 6 Habits?
Great talk, but to be socially responsible we've got to be level-headed about empathy. Your empathy for a bear cub can see you killed by its mother's empathy. It definitely has a dark side when divorced from rationality (the one person next to me seems more important than the hundred I cannot see....). He's right in that empathy helps us 'look beyond labels' and understand people better, but the sad fact is that today's 'progressive' identity politics is all about such crass labelling, and the accompanying legitimised- but un-acknowledgeable - hatred of those saddled with the 'oppressor' label. So it is appropriate that he focuses on empathy as a matter of individual development, responsibility and skill, more than a political / tribal / ideological thing. But he does use the word 'we' a lot... 'We' can always be more empathic, but he's just plain wrong (and perhaps a touch narcissistic?) to dismiss the 20th century as 'un-empathic'. He makes a lot of good points, but make sure you also listen to others who understand empathy, such as Jordan Peterson and Paul Bloom. If you really care about others, that is:)
EMPATHY=HUMANITY
Agreed :)
The world is a mess due to lack of this Godly trait by most people. For me it came naturally ; it is mind & stomach revolting for me not to be empathic. I think most people automatically focus to look to find the faults of others which makes them think they are better and helps them forget their own faults and feel good to be able to pick/peck on someone other than themselves.
Firstly, Godwin's law. Secondly, MDMA is not as similar to amphetamine as you aver it to be - that's like saying cannabis is almost the same as tobacco. MDMA, before it was banned in the U.S., was once used by psychiatrists and psychotherapists to treat patients. They exploited its immense power to induce empathy and contentment in the patient to mend marriages, overcome childhood abuse etc. Amphetamine couldn't be used for any of these things. Amphetamine makes you irritable.
STRESS ALERT! Put speed at 0.75, leaves you time to breathe and room to understand better.
"Speak, tho' sure, with seeming diffidence, for want of modesty is want of common sense." That's Benjamin Franklin's take on an Alexander Pope poem. The fact that you make such a bold claim, like that taking a drug would end war, and deny the possibility that it could be wrong shows lack of common sense. Also, Hitler took many amphetamines, and though MDMA probably wasn't one of them, they all induce a similar effect of euphoria and seeming intimacy. Clearly it didn't effect his policies.
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i am so empathic i cried watching transformers 3. no shit.
My lack of diffidence? What the hell are you talking about? How can a lack of timidity be ignorance? Also, you clearly have to take what I said with a pinch of salt considering I didn't elaborate in the slightest. Maybe you should do some research on MDMA though.
Wow this fits me pretty well. lol
There's not much to argue.. Saying the entire institution of war would end if everyone would just abuse ecstasy is naive. Where's your 'substantive' argument to disprove this?
i think a highly empathic schizophrenic has the potential to be sane again
Can somebody be extremely empathic and a misanthrope?
I try to listen but my head keeps interupting with "HE LOOKS LIKE DR. HODGINS"
Try to be a good Cristian and you will be empathic in no time 🙏🙏
In no time? Honey it is still hard work. It depends where you come from.
Uh, what? So we should be immodest because Ben Franklin didn't live up to his own ideals? To quoque
Wow you've obviously got nothing to say if that's your response!
i wonder if a highly empathic schizophrenic could literally 'become' somebody else.
You made the point that my argument was invalid because it relied on the advice of Benjamin Franklin, and that this was fallacious because (apparently) Benjamin Franklin was racist. Perhaps you should read up on logical fallacies, because Franklin's character has no logical impact on the advice he gives. This is the ad hominem fallacy. Perhaps you should look up 'To quoque'..
Extrospection, not outrospection!
He is describing INFPs
Oh please stop with this nonsense. It is satanic. It is like a horoscope, not accurate.
heh :-) I feel ya',
to bad the ultra rich were not more empathetic. it would help a lot of people and our country.
Jessica Gordon If the ultra rich were born into their ultra rich status, they very well may still be empathetic, but may have a different relationship to money than someone who is or has been poor. To be rich does not equate to lack of empathy...and to be empathetic does not equate to giving.
but yes, money would solve many problems...and the best someone who has little money can do to manipulate the system is to choose wisely every single purchase they make and to whom their money transcends.
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If everyone took mdma once, there would be no war.
Thirdly, Benjamin Franklin was full of modesty, except when he was writing about how black people were inferior to white people. That's was quite immodest. He's not the oracle. I also think you're clutching at straws considering you are the one who is genuinely ignorant of the matter here. I said take my statement with a pinch of salt, but in essence I do mean what I said.
Are you serious? So you think human greed and avarice would be solved by giving people MDMA? The desire for power? Prestige? The intricacies of desires that are *inherent* in our nature would suddenly disappear if we all just took MDMA once? Your lack of diffidence IS ignorance.
Yeah, because everyone who has ever took MDMA immediately relinquished their subconscious desires for power and wealth.. What a naive thing to say.
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Perhaps you should make substantive arguments instead of relying on tawdry aphorisms.
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? how is crying selfish unless it's crocodile tears........ ? i pity the fool who can't have a good cry and let it all out...
unlike ted
i'm off to cry now cos my comment got too many negative votes. but i was only admitting the truth .. i cried in transformers.... try having female pregnancy hormones and tell me you wouldn't cry!!!
We should all just get along, sounds like Communism to me
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meh, life is shit, doubt empathising with everyone will fix that.