How Speedrunners Bypassed the Death of Flash Games

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024

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  • @Maximum
    @Maximum  Před 3 lety +213

    A Couple of Updates:
    1. We found a standalone version of flash that allows for the jump in level 10 to work, which is a very great outcome.
    2. A lot of people continue to be under the impression that flash games will be unplayable after 2020. This is obviously not true. Do whatever you can to spread the word about flashpoint! bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/

    • @steak9738
      @steak9738 Před 3 lety +6

      How come you never mentioned Ruffle in this video? It's a flash emulator. Is it really not as known about as I thought?

    • @iexist1300
      @iexist1300 Před 3 lety +5

      I'm using flashpoint while watching this video. It's so much better for mario 63 without all the lag, and full screen mode is cool even though it can be used to cheat some games like duck life.

    • @m3mcat7
      @m3mcat7 Před 3 lety +4

      old versions of browsers work, like the latest version of chrome supported by windows xp and vista.

    • @Histgyph
      @Histgyph Před 3 lety +2

      I tried opening the standalone flash from the swj file using multiple methods, but none of them worked, can you make a tutorial on how to do that now that flash isn’t being supported?

    • @g.s.495
      @g.s.495 Před rokem +1

      Thanks for saving my childhood from dying (Flashpoint is cool, man, even in 2022)!

  • @natlemonyfam4637
    @natlemonyfam4637 Před 3 lety +239

    Everybody Gangsta till fireboy and watergirl touch the green water.

  • @Grane1234
    @Grane1234 Před 3 lety +60

    Man, Super Mario 63 was and still is one of my favourite flash games, among many

    • @mimple6497
      @mimple6497 Před 3 lety +1

      and Rolling Hero

    • @stormy_does_stuff
      @stormy_does_stuff Před 3 lety +2

      And Papa's games

    • @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171
      @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 Před 2 lety +1

      At the time, it was my favorite with Run 2 and Fireboy and Watergirl as #2 and #3

    • @AustynL
      @AustynL Před 2 lety +1

      Snow Tale is so flippin' underrated, man! It's such a good game.

    • @Monkeymario.
      @Monkeymario. Před měsícem +1

      i didnt hear about sm63 until recently after flash desth but i really like it! :D

  • @bestberry7332
    @bestberry7332 Před 3 lety +104

    So Nitrome is slowly transferring their games to the HTML5 part of their website, which basically runs an HTML5 emulator for flash. I assume they'll all end up there eventually. Great video btw!

    • @mariosin3256
      @mariosin3256 Před 2 lety +4

      The only Nitrome game/s I can remember off the top of my head are the Bad Ice Cream series.

  • @MeesterTweester
    @MeesterTweester Před 4 lety +71

    I am a very passionate Flash runner. While the mainstream eye might be turned away after 2020, I hope the speedrunning scene for them lives much longer afterwards. The future in uncertain but I hope we can use some sort of old browser version in the future. I have a lot of the same ideas as said in your video.
    Also I recognize you from us both running Zero Deaths!

    • @BowserStrikesEverywhere
      @BowserStrikesEverywhere Před 4 lety +1

      Zero deaths gang

    • @futurama3939
      @futurama3939 Před 3 lety +3

      oh hey meester, didn't expect to see ya here. Anyways yeah we runnin 5b on d a projectors pog.

    • @MeesterTweester
      @MeesterTweester Před 3 lety +1

      Futurama 39 Yeah :)

    • @papaspoon1550
      @papaspoon1550 Před rokem +1

      Well its been a little over 2 years and many flash games (especially speedrunning ones) still have a speedrunning scene, some games even got a bigger player base because of flash going away, as it gave attention to flash games again, and us early late 90's - early 2k's wanted to feel nostalgia before it was terminated.
      I almost feel bad for zoomers, they'll never get to experience the joy of flash.

    • @MeesterTweester
      @MeesterTweester Před rokem

      @@papaspoon1550 For sure

  • @otherlego
    @otherlego Před 3 lety +33

    "Jank Browser" is Opera: HOW DARE Y-
    Bopera: I see nothing wrong with that.

  • @Gerbungis_1
    @Gerbungis_1 Před 4 lety +78

    Finally. A person of class, you showed a clip of blooms td 3

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Před 4 lety +27

      wait WTF i didn't do that
      ok maybe i did

    • @sire_kirbz
      @sire_kirbz Před 3 lety +2

      @Miloš Đošić why did i find a random learn 2 fly guy?

    • @sire_kirbz
      @sire_kirbz Před 3 lety +2

      @Miloš Đošić agree

    • @Xnoob545
      @Xnoob545 Před 3 lety

      @@Maximum can i play red ball on mobile

  • @Vertic03
    @Vertic03 Před 4 lety +27

    That's some high quality content you're producing

  • @harlos_is_cool3641
    @harlos_is_cool3641 Před 3 lety +35

    2020 has gone to far

  • @SOOWOOGEE
    @SOOWOOGEE Před 3 lety +15

    How does this video not get much attention? You earned a subscribe from me, bud!

    • @SOOWOOGEE
      @SOOWOOGEE Před 3 lety

      uuuu i think i just became a og??????

  • @kfoley275
    @kfoley275 Před 4 lety +29

    Just as a sidenote, Newgrounds has a flash player that lets you not only play swf files you have downloaded, but also the files on the site itself.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Před 4 lety +9

      Good to know!

    • @crypticpoke6805
      @crypticpoke6805 Před 4 lety +1

      Thank god I can still play Super Mario 63 after December

    • @Shalakor
      @Shalakor Před 3 lety +4

      @@Maximum And they're planning to make a freeware browser plugin of it as well as possibly releasing it to other flash game sites to implement locally.

    • @cst1229
      @cst1229 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Shalakor That's I think Ruffle, which is completely separate aside from the fact that Newgrounds supports it.

  • @wsabcha
    @wsabcha Před 4 lety +11

    i like the part where you talked about flash. really epic. nice video.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Před 4 lety +10

      hmm i dont really remember that part but thanks anyways

  • @Mr.Carrot
    @Mr.Carrot Před 3 lety +5

    apparently y8 has it's own browser that supports flash.
    I don't know how many games it will support but when I searched a random flash game but it said to download it, and it is a way to play flash games on a browser in 2021
    edit: the basilisk browser that flashpoint uses also supports flash.

  • @GMPranav
    @GMPranav Před 3 lety +8

    I have always used the Flash player projector for playing flash games offline. Its really great.

    • @cst1229
      @cst1229 Před 3 lety

      Newer versions have the same killswitch as browser Flash.

    • @GMPranav
      @GMPranav Před 3 lety

      @@cst1229 Use old version then lol.

    • @cst1229
      @cst1229 Před 3 lety

      @@GMPranav Yeah i know.

  • @archived1573
    @archived1573 Před 3 lety +39

    Adobe: Flash speedrunning will become dead
    EazySpeezy: We'll see about that

  • @Raylightsen
    @Raylightsen Před 4 lety +3

    Amazing intro.
    Like everyone is daily watching news about flash games.

  • @wsabcha
    @wsabcha Před 4 lety +21

    I like the part when you said "editing pee code" haha. pee.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Před 4 lety +8

      ITS P-CODE WILLIAM

    • @wsabcha
      @wsabcha Před 4 lety +9

      ItsMaximum hehe pee.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Před 4 lety +10

      @@wsabcha >:(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( not funy

    • @bnmc
      @bnmc Před 4 lety +5

      @@Maximum yes funy very funy maximum its

    • @ckqk
      @ckqk Před 3 lety

      stop shaggy hair guy not funni 😠 also you said the letter a that is in among us game so u sayd sus letter 😳

  • @cst1229
    @cst1229 Před 3 lety +3

    That osu sbubby at 3:34 tho

  • @owls.
    @owls. Před 4 lety +14

    in my opinion,
    it's most likely when people started playing Fortnite, since over 70% of ppl were playing flash in 2017, and only 17% played flash in 2019.

  • @dabasil
    @dabasil Před 3 lety +11

    Flash sacrificed itself to end 2020's disaster, F's in the chat bois

  • @shellshockhkmk7816
    @shellshockhkmk7816 Před 2 lety +4

    One of my favourite and first flash games was Zombotron. Which was made into a proper full on steam game. The only thing bad about it is the ending.

  • @Dolphin002
    @Dolphin002 Před 3 lety +12

    Fun fact: You can still play Flash games if you change your PC's date to anything before January 12

    • @Piopollo
      @Piopollo Před 3 lety +4

      Until a certain point, since some pages stop running correctly if you change the date too much.

    • @futurama3939
      @futurama3939 Před 3 lety +1

      while yes there's a time window to this, do it too after some time and you get SSL Certificates expiring and the browser not wanting to connect, however the more pressing thing is that browsers are forcibly disabling flash. Firefox looks to do so in version 85, Jan 26th. And chromium-base (Chrome, Opera, Edge et al.) Look to have disabled flash support now with Chrome 88 being merged into stable on the 19th. Any chromium-based browsers if not now will remove flash support in the next immediate chromium update.

    • @AvoxionYT
      @AvoxionYT Před 3 lety +1

      From personal experience, if you had disabled Windows updates beforehand it will work too. And if it's too late, just look up Ruffle, it's an extension that lets you run flash.

    • @TheGaming100
      @TheGaming100 Před 2 lety +1

      I change the date at all and the entire browser fails to run lol

  • @Randomno2
    @Randomno2 Před 4 lety +14

    I want to point out that Club Penguin speedrunning is still active, but not on the original leaderboards. Since Club Penguin was such a big game no private server can perfectly recreate it which is part of the reason to leave the old leaderboard as it is. As you mention, accurately running games may become an issue in the future. Some alternative Flash players may never be completely reliable.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Před 4 lety +6

      I am aware of this, however there wasn't a necessity to include it in this particular video.

  • @Motorjam
    @Motorjam Před 4 lety +45

    10:08 me irl

    • @bnmc
      @bnmc Před 4 lety +4

      same widepeepoSad

  • @anti79
    @anti79 Před 3 lety +5

    I still remember when it was called Macromedia Flash..

  • @Flunkass
    @Flunkass Před 4 lety +3

    6:13 Beautiful gem on the right

  • @Livestreamlurker
    @Livestreamlurker Před 3 lety +5

    2:29 why does former world chess champion Anatoly Karpov want my data?

  • @m_rissspeedruns1231
    @m_rissspeedruns1231 Před 3 lety +10

    I’ve recently been wondering if runs done on flashpoint would be allowed onto any flash game leaderboard

    • @cst1229
      @cst1229 Před 3 lety +5

      Probably yes because they're just standalone flash player runs basically.

  • @MatthewGhirardi
    @MatthewGhirardi Před 19 dny +1

    The nitrome game I’ve played as a kid is Skywire and the sequel

  • @CirclesnSquares4990
    @CirclesnSquares4990 Před 3 lety +2

    Who else used to remember other flash game website adds in a flash game website

  • @phantom-chan2940
    @phantom-chan2940 Před 3 lety +1

    the run this time button on crome makes flash playable

  • @singles3rvingjack
    @singles3rvingjack Před 3 lety +4

    Dawn of the FINAL DAY (6 Hours Remain)

  • @ricape7160
    @ricape7160 Před 4 lety +5

    Good video :)

  • @frozenpeak1524
    @frozenpeak1524 Před 3 lety +3

    you left out my boi run 1

  • @uzlkav6218
    @uzlkav6218 Před rokem +1

    you have to enable editing in config to see that button

  • @TuxerTuxar
    @TuxerTuxar Před 3 lety +2

    No more Riddle School?
    Jonbro:NO. DOWNLOAD IT ON GAMEJOLT

  • @acid4096
    @acid4096 Před rokem

    THANK YOU. I CAN FINALLY RELIVE MY GOLDEN YEARS.

  • @AliceDevil7490
    @AliceDevil7490 Před 4 lety +2

    The real question is will the games on comdotgames survive this purge

  • @jakemadison207
    @jakemadison207 Před 3 lety +2

    I've played mobility on cool math and on one level I think I have opimised it so much that my best is 15 seconds flat.

  • @KoalaBread
    @KoalaBread Před 3 lety

    max changed the title and thumbnail thinking we wouldnt notice

  • @Remyria
    @Remyria Před 3 lety

    3:35 osuHOW
    also, I'm so glad I stumbled across your video, I thought I would never be able to play these flash games

  • @Cerise__
    @Cerise__ Před 3 lety +4

    If you dont Miss Flash...
    Dont talk to me

  • @arthurgroll4906
    @arthurgroll4906 Před 7 měsíci

    Seeing the code I remember back then when I used to edit Terraria's opcodes in Cheat Engine 💀

  • @BFDIDavidFan69
    @BFDIDavidFan69 Před 3 lety +1

    Some of my school laptops have the old Microsoft website and it works

  • @Monkeymario.
    @Monkeymario. Před měsícem +1

    1:33 i have that! :D

  • @vinvoius
    @vinvoius Před 3 lety +1

    just doing some kingdom rush speedruns on standalone flash, cause the premium content (which has a massive timesave help) cannot be purchased anymore and flashpoint hasnt added it yet (also Ironhide doesnt care about the flash version anymore, so isnt a issue)

  • @haronka
    @haronka Před 3 lety +3

    What can you do with games that are like Red Ball and contain URL-check?

  • @firname395
    @firname395 Před 4 lety

    Please do more videos like this it was interesting

  • @Jommo213
    @Jommo213 Před rokem

    The only reason I didn't know about Flash's death is because I didn't know what Flash was lol.

  • @littlebigjared
    @littlebigjared Před 3 lety +3

    Anyone remember playing Penguin Diner?

  • @user-fp3mn3dw7x
    @user-fp3mn3dw7x Před 3 lety

    There are still some Chinese browsers that are based on chromium supporting flash and some Chinese flash based online game still running

  • @Afdusrt
    @Afdusrt Před 3 lety +2

    flash player roms

  • @fyran6453
    @fyran6453 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm glad flash games returned avaible

  • @divingboardlord
    @divingboardlord Před 3 lety +3

    ahh yes. i will not be using this entertainment that i just saw to play nitrome games on flashpoint

  • @oakleyblade9400
    @oakleyblade9400 Před 3 lety +1

    only 5,000 views? jeesh. ur high quality lol

  • @darkfox_
    @darkfox_ Před 4 lety +2

    gaming

  • @kisaragi-hiu
    @kisaragi-hiu Před 3 lety +1

    Nitrome could just sell their classics on Steam and bring in a fuck ton of money that way. I don't think they understand how widespread their games were. I don't even remember their name, but their intro was immediately recognizable. (I'm pretty sure being based on Flash does not disqualify a game from being sold on Steam, right?)

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Před 3 lety +4

      Similar to Nintendo, Nitrome clearly doesn't like easy money.

    • @macrro
      @macrro Před 2 lety

      @@Maximum they like the hard way huh?

  • @tekno679
    @tekno679 Před 3 lety

    flashpoint runs even on linux, it's amazing!

  • @werlesonalencar2330
    @werlesonalencar2330 Před 3 lety +1

    Dude! I didin't understand the Nitrome part. Do you have a video about this?

  • @makemaggaraaagd6820
    @makemaggaraaagd6820 Před 3 lety +2

    Or just use SuperNova Player. It is safe and on kongregate

  • @asiancynical4682
    @asiancynical4682 Před 4 lety +2

    You can speedrun club pengeuin?
    I wanna join

  • @user-ju7uk6tz6z
    @user-ju7uk6tz6z Před rokem

    Now we have a Ruffle!

  • @unseengamer6464
    @unseengamer6464 Před 3 lety +1

    When I can't open flashpoint because it isn't suppported on chromeOS
    *cries myself to sleep*

    • @vistaman1
      @vistaman1 Před 3 lety

      use ruffle

    • @jedecilos322
      @jedecilos322 Před rokem

      @@vistaman1 Ruffle is just a worse version of flashpoint because it can’t support actionscript 3.

  • @Justanormalperson621
    @Justanormalperson621 Před 4 měsíci

    2:28 w a i t w h a -

  • @biygas
    @biygas Před 4 lety +1

    camp lazlo paintcan panic speedrun any% 0:04 seconds

  • @marissasalalila4755
    @marissasalalila4755 Před 4 lety +1

    In asia flash is still available but its much slower than before

  • @st1nkypoofart
    @st1nkypoofart Před 3 lety +1

    thanks

  • @blockyooghofficial
    @blockyooghofficial Před 3 lety

    well i mean i saw this guy speedrun redball so i trust him

  • @arttukettunen5757
    @arttukettunen5757 Před 3 lety +2

    It didn't die in 2020
    It died in 2021

  • @smileguy9527
    @smileguy9527 Před 4 lety +1

    My opera still has flash...

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Před 4 lety +1

      It will likely not be that way for too much longer

    • @smileguy9527
      @smileguy9527 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Maximum Oh shi-

  • @redmax8734
    @redmax8734 Před rokem +1

    right

  • @springbertstudios7005
    @springbertstudios7005 Před 2 lety

    You must not have heard of riffle riffle is a emulator of Flash that's one way it can be played along with the new grounds player

  • @astrofish6163
    @astrofish6163 Před 3 lety +1

    can someone go through what he did to play that nitrome game? I wanna play final ninja

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Před 3 lety +1

      join the nitrome speedrunning discord www.speedrun.com/skywire2/thread/s0ama

    • @astrofish6163
      @astrofish6163 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Maximum love you man thanks

  • @Mr.Carrot
    @Mr.Carrot Před 3 lety +1

    would it be possible to play nitrome games on flashpoint today?

  • @drim3945
    @drim3945 Před 3 lety +1

    oh no, how i can't get .swf after a blocking flash?

  • @krakios3950
    @krakios3950 Před 3 lety

    When you find the video too late and Flashpoint is too big to have on your computer

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Před 3 lety +1

      Flashpoint Infinity takes up less than a gigabyte

  • @fragmister
    @fragmister Před 3 lety

    I don't know about you but, flash runs flawlessly on Firefox for me?
    Also @ItsMaximum, where do you think you could find the best version of Red Ball 4 for pc?

  • @Monkeymario.
    @Monkeymario. Před měsícem +1

    0:20 but i reinstalled them (well actuaky its ruffle)

  • @EpochIsEpic
    @EpochIsEpic Před 3 lety +1

    Unexpected osu!

  • @tylert528
    @tylert528 Před 3 lety

    me when i see that the terraria fargo's souls mod (without the dlc because echdeath) is possible: 3:35

  • @ectongamer2084
    @ectongamer2084 Před 3 lety +1

    Wait If those browser won't open Flash, HOW ABOUT MY BROWSER BRAVE, I Don't want Flash Player to me Gone, God Help us Please :(, Were going to miss you flash

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Před 3 lety +2

      Eventually ruffle, a flash emulator, will release, which will allow for web play. Search it up on github.

    • @ectongamer2084
      @ectongamer2084 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Maximum Btw when you download flash games will it still be deleted?

    • @cst1229
      @cst1229 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ectongamer2084 No because of course, you have the file.

  • @virtualrealitea
    @virtualrealitea Před 3 lety +1

    When you can't open Flashpoint launcher because it's not supported on macOS...
    **cries**

    • @ericlove3109
      @ericlove3109 Před 3 lety

      you can bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/datahub/Mac_Support

  • @ABCARWGFtoC
    @ABCARWGFtoC Před 3 lety +1

    3:45

  • @meditor0181
    @meditor0181 Před 3 lety +1

    5:46 are you typing a bad word
    ??????????? What the F

    • @punu3675
      @punu3675 Před 3 lety +1

      Why does it matter unless you're like 4.

  • @SAD1F
    @SAD1F Před 3 lety +1

    I miss zombotron :/

  • @terraanber5984
    @terraanber5984 Před 3 lety

    Is double edged nitrome? Cuz it's my favourite flash game

  • @blazeroberts6360
    @blazeroberts6360 Před 4 lety

    Y'all remember primary games

  • @Thiscooldude123
    @Thiscooldude123 Před 3 lety

    imma spend my time playing papa freezeria

  • @drippymissouri
    @drippymissouri Před 3 lety

    You forgot about coolmath games

  • @bitcoin-investment
    @bitcoin-investment Před rokem

    How do you do the HTML method with red ball in google?

  • @IGNACY-fp8zo
    @IGNACY-fp8zo Před 3 lety

    Would an old version of a browser still run flash?

  • @danilostahl8178
    @danilostahl8178 Před rokem

    im so dumb I literally can't download it

  • @user-ob9hx9do5c
    @user-ob9hx9do5c Před 3 lety +1

    What

  • @kales901
    @kales901 Před rokem

    i cant open the app

  • @dualdarkelu8495
    @dualdarkelu8495 Před 3 lety +1

    osuHOW

  • @Blueskies2513
    @Blueskies2513 Před rokem

    ruffle

  • @AkaObbies
    @AkaObbies Před 3 lety

    osu!how

  • @God-qj7jl
    @God-qj7jl Před 2 lety

    Thank injectors

  • @h0tea
    @h0tea Před 2 lety

    3:35 osuHow

  • @user-ob9hx9do5c
    @user-ob9hx9do5c Před 3 lety +1

    Whatp