Carp Fishing ~ The Pop Up Rig Challenge (Why Ronnie Rigs Suck)
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- čas přidán 7. 02. 2020
- I challenge myself to catch 6 winter carp in 24hrs on 6 different pop up rigs!
The Ronnie Rig has become the most popular rig of all time but I attempt to show you that there are better rigs out there.
Pop up rigs for carp fishing are many and varied but have you ever stopped to wonder why there are so many different rigs and which are the best ones and why. I attempt to prove that it doesn’t matter which rig you use as they’re all basically the same and watercraft and location are more important as you will see!
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One of the most informative carp fishing videos out there. Great comparison - You learn something every day 👍🏻 Excellent
Thanks mate really appreciate that 👌
Good work as usual Si well in pal. Some of the best vids on CZcams well informative yet again!!!
Mate you're too kind thanks very much. It really helps the motivation when people enjoy the vids and let me know so thanks mate much appreciated 👍👍
Awesome video, I’m a new subscriber and looking forward to the next one
Quality blog Simon, and proves the point your making mate!👍👍👌
Thanks Paul 👌👍
Always nice to look at your videos
Thanks mate much appreciated. Lots more to come this year!
So weird I've been thinking alot this week on which rig I should be using and this can up on your channel, great idea and just what I needed
Thanks Sam hope it helps you. The withy and the multi are my favourites but they all work mate. I prefer the withy as its so easy to tie and holds its shape so well. I've got a video on how to tie it if you look on my channel 👌
@@SimonDewCarpFishing awesome, a suggestion if you are doing more like this would be talk about when and why you would use a type of rig I.e different lake beds and how to present them etc, what do you think? There isn't too much on this more on about how to tie the rigs
Inspiring video, Simon, thank you. I learned about the nuances of ronnie-rig in time 👍 I will try your version of withy pool-rig instead. In addition, as a designer :) I wrapped the tube with leadcore braid and fluffed the ends - it turns out a chic piece of branch. Thanks, friend!
good video, i been using Ronnies on a good few sessions now and found my rigs almost always catch them in the middle bottom lip so until they start doing something drastically wrong i will stick with what I'm doing. tight lines.
Fantastic unbiased experiment. I am new to your channel and would love to see more. Bottom bait rigs, mesh vs solid bags, alternatives to boillies, particles etc
Thanks for the comment I will definitely try to make some of these comparisons when we are back to normal 👍
Great video Simon 👍
thanks mate much appreciated
Nice to see you back Simon! Great vid as always, totally agree on 360 rig, almost as bad as the bent hook rig!
Like you w/pool for me all day long, but feel rigs are all about confidence, what ever works for you stick with, only change if it's really needed, but of course a personal preference..
Hopefully see you back on the bank soon, Tight lines 😉
Cheers fella. For me it's about a rig that's quick and easy to tie and one that holds its shape. I like a hinge stiff but the upright section always goes out of shape. The shrink tube of a withy will always keep its shape so it beats a hinge hands down for me 😉
We mash our heads with rigs but not enough on location a simple pop up rig will do the job well done mate tight lines 😊👍🎣🎣🎣🐟
Roy Close to true.
Thanks mate and yes I totally agree. Simple is the way forward and concentrate on working out where they will be feeding
Why a pop up rig ? There seems an obsession witb pop up rigs do our freebies hover an inch or more off the deck bit like the match the hatch at one time u had no choice unless u knew how to make ur own high attract hookbaits which seems to be the norm today
Yes mate you have a point there a think it is an obsession with pop up s
Hi simon I now use Ronny rigs a lot know after your tips and tricks video as it is simple to tie so I completely agree with u that location comes first and the bait because as long as u can get them confidently feeding most rigs will work good job 👍
Just thinking back to when i use the Ronnie rig,u are right do seem to catch a good few in the corner of the mouth, and same here never used a 360 rig, just think it looks more of a fashion statement rig lol, great video again, keep up the good work, your videos always give me and my youngest son great tips to catch fish, first time i took him fishing he had a 20lb 4oz common, first time fishing, been carp fishing for about 5 years still have not been able to get one over 20lb , sods law,
Haha well done the little man. 👌
Great video Simon, these rigs are all about one thing and that’s selling tackle, everything these days revolves around money and fishing tackle is no exception
That's true to a point mate but then we all need tackle to make rigs and go fishing so it works both ways! I think it's important to experiment and find what works for you and then stick with it so you can concentrate on other aspects of your angling 👌
Everybody is using the Ronnie rig!
I like to be different and use the multi rig! Great video Simon good to see you back mate! 💯🙌🎣✌️
Cheers fella but I feel they're basically doi g the same jobs. Tbh the only difference is the multi can be slightly higher but can be tied to work exactly like a Ronnie
I remember years ago when the Claw rig was the rig to use. First 2 fish I caught had serious mouth damage, so started critically balancing,so the hook was level and not up in the water. Still caught loads on it, but without the damage.
That's interesting mate 👌
Simon was it you that done the sunblessa review great bit of kit fella another good vlog aswell !!
Cheers fella yeah I reviewed it on my Carpology session at willow Park. I really like it tbh it's nice to have a light especially in winter 👌
I swapped to the ronnie for the simple reason i make my hooks ridiculously sharp and they are goosed if the even clip the rod or the floor ect nevermind catch a fish so i can keep the boom and swap the hook out in seconds saves alot of time and money
Multi rig. And the withy. The rest are all 360 rig versions. Very unbiased view, well put over. Keep it up. Tight lines.
Delkims all the way just love the sound of em..
very educational thanks simon i will take that into consideration im using a hair rig style with a shot if ever i need to use a pop up
cheers mate i like a blowback style rig for bottom baits but i’m more than happy to use it for pop ups too.
@@SimonDewCarpFishing it's a fantastic method simon 👍👍👍
Hi Simon. Really interesting video. I followed your lead and swapped pop up rigs after each bite this weekend. The Ronnie and the Stiff Hinged both hooked in the scissor as you experienced with the Ronnie, something I had not really considered before. The Withy rig, which is not used before, hooked dead centre inside the mouth.
Defiantly food for thought as I had used Ronnies a lot. Will continue to experiment and will try different lead setups next to see if they make a difference; same rig , different lead setup each time.
Overall I agree with your thoughts that the baiting and location are more important than the rig.
Jason
Cheers mate I definitely think location is the most important thing but analysing hook holds can definitely help gain confidence in the rig you're using and I've always found a withy nails them. I might do a video on lead arrangements and see which comes out on top 👌
another good vid mate
Thank you mate very much appreciated 🙏
There is no wonder rig just like there is no wonder bait. Depends on location and situation. Great vid
Yep agree with that mate.
Good video mate 👍🏻intresting results.....with the 360 rig alot of people had this problem getting caught in the net, they eliminated this by putting a small peice of shrink tubing over the eye of the hook and shrinking it down so it didnt move off etc. Would be intresting to see if the shrink tubing actually eliminates the hook getting caught in then net!! I dont know this my self as in dont use the rig but maybe you could try it again and ser 👍🏻
Yeah I actually used silicone not shrink tube and it came off so maybe shrink tube is better. I actually think there are better rigs mechanics than the 360 though. I think the hook is too low to work effectively every time but sometimes you get lucky with it and at least it always resets itself when spat out 👍
Good video Simon I've just sold my delks to get nash r3s cos one my delks always played up in heavy rain
Yeah I always liked the delks but sometimes I'd only get one bleep and the bobbin had moved loads it just seems they weren't consistent enough in the wet 👍
First and foremost great video. Appreciate the work. I get the point also, dont get too hung up on rigs, key focus is fish finding and baiting. But clearly rigs will come to play especially on high pressure venues and carp learn fast right. But i mean where you had the more looser and arguably more aggressive (damage potential) fish holds, they are large curve hooks vs stright shanks. They have been banned recently on a few local venues i fish and think for hood reason WHEN used on smaller carp. By that i mean under 30ibs. Curve hooks and high test curve rods along side a newer fisherman bullying a 15ibs fish ....will tear up a carps mouth. So yeah while your point and main message is absolutely valid. You do have a straight hook plus bent tubing vs fully cruved hook argument on this too. I think its probably the smaller carp mouths do struggle to blow out the 360 type, and it may not fully take hold vs a larger fish who have more room in their mouth. In summary. Fish size vs rig. Curve hook vs straight. My two pence ......but great work mate all this just helps the education.
100% agree....far prefer a nicely made stiff hinge etc myself ...however i do have friends that have brilliant success on the Ronnie and the results can't be denied....i guess like anything it's more about what you are confident in using...and yes...LOCATION. 👍👌
When I used 4 rods at a day tickets lake, playing a carp on 1 rod, would often swim through the lines of the other 3 rods. Problem was solved by using back leads.
Ive used the ronnie to good effect to be fair ,and found the hook holds pretty good. Happy to use it at somewhere like linear, fishing over bait.... but if im fishing somewhere with low lying weed id switch to a hinge stiff or a chod rig everytime. Regarding the ronnie...when you think of the amount of different components required to make the rig, its no wonder the tackle companies want us to use them... and fair play to them aswell. Its business at the end of the day👍 its down to the individual to be wise to whats the right thing to use in the situation they are faced with.... enjoying your vids simon. Tight lines 🎣🎣
Good informative video Simon as usual personally the Johnny Mac rig is my fav for pop ups but very rare I use them I’m more a wafter fan or straight bottom bait myself always had better results hope your well and tight lines from the NORTHERN CARP FREAKS 👍👍🎣🎣
Cheers Craig 👌
Inerestin video mate as always nice to see you on another lake i know . gotta disagree with ya on the ronnie rig.i used it on that lake and caught 4 fish on it and all were hooked in the centre of the mouth .however i made mine with korda size 8 crank hooks not curved shank maybe try that and see if you get a different result.the rig i use most although you didnt use it and probly my favourite is the combi rig for pop ups and bottom baits again using a crank hook.
Cheers Chris. Not tried a crank hook I prefer angling iron anchors and curves they're really good hooks 👍
A few components on a rig can work well if your on the fish. It's just the big company's that add more to get your money. Keep it simple and you wont go wrong. Great vid Simon
Thanks mate I agree totally cheers for your comment 👍
Just started fishing again after 40 years when I was a kid it was called ledgering! now confused but interesting and challenging my local lake only allows min no10 hooks so I am using no 10 and method feeder. Looks like I need to look at a different lake and re-think it and up my game, many thanks for your informative video
Try carl and alex fishing tutorial no matter how long you been fishing them to lads know how to put across information
Good luck!
Hi Simon yet another great vlog well done..Got rid of my TXIs now have Nash R3s I wished I'd changed earlier,so so better..Would never use 360 rig awful damage done even with silacone..Will give the Multi a try hook hold looked 1st rate..Till the next vlog........LC
Thanks mate yeah the multi is awesome. Don't overlook the withy though its a mega rig 😉
Great video Simon. Not a riggy person by any stretch of the imagination but very interesting. Merlin, knotless knot and Flexi ring swivel is as technical as I go 😂
As for the ECUs, you'll love 'em. Mine have been faultless the last 18 months, only drawback is this scenario.. "ere mate,who makes those buzzers" ...ECU buddy..."Oh,never 'eard of 'em" 😁
Lots of people still stick with a basic knotless knot and it works. I think the point I'm trying to get across is that all rigs work and the tackle companies are responsible for confusing people into thinking they need 10 different rigs!
I actually like the idea that people don't know what alarms they are 😂 they'll think they're ultra cult custom jobs 🤣🤣
Have a look at the Mark Bryant rig. Basically a loop of braid attached to a flouro boom. Hook is then looped in with a bait screw on the loop and silicone to secure the loop. Can be used for pop ups, wafters or bottom baits so no need for loads of different rigs.
I've seen that and use it, great to be able to use all types of bait with it
Yeah I've seen that. A good idea 👌
My go-to rig these days. So versatile 👌
Nice job my friend
It is like you said you can catch carp on any rig as long as it’s tied well and presented well the main goal is to be on top of the fish know where they are and if they’re feeding
Try using the original (Maddocks / Middleton), old school hair rig, with the hair tied on the center of the hook bend.
Then see if this very basic rig, out performs the best 2 rigs in this video.
Good video buddy can see what your doing pal education is key especially for the younger anglers and even some experienced one to be fair.... for a few years now I suck a D on the back of the ronnie stopped the issue what u mentioned and gives the rig more movement has for a bottom bait rig u wont go far wrong with wot u boys no has the noddle rig which was first invented years ago and slightly different by my father neil Willott and his good friend paul hepworth..scott lloyd is a good lad and has said many times where it came from cracking hook holds and no mouth damage keep the vids up dude.
Cheers fella. I've tried a version of the noodle rig and had good results tbh 😉
I remember before covid me and a friend went to a lake to do sone fine pasty bashing and we both was using some pre made Ronnie's i think between us we landed 50 or 60 doubles and a couple 20s. I know was a commercial day ticket but i cant deny i never had a run and lost one and we had soo many. So faith in the ronnie since that day
It weird so many people rate the Ronnie but I've had nothing but problems with it 🤷🏻♂️🤔
at the age of 72 i have to ask ,is this what angling has come to more and more metalwork and gimmicks ? what happened to fieldcraft and natural baits ?
Natural baits is something I'm very interested in getting back to. I'll be doing a video on it soon 👌
Scaffolding rigs I call them
At 72 you should know it’s watercraft not fieldcraft
More bites.simple
I'm glad you told us how old you are. I really needed to know.
I’ve had Gardener ATT for ages now and never had a problem with them there bullet-proof. But wanted more adjustable sensitivity. So got the new delkim Txi-D witch are yet to be tested. 🤞🏼
I'm sure you'll love them mate 👌
For better hook holds on the Ronnie rig or any shank mounted bait you need to use a ring swivel to attach the bait gives it more separation better hook holds
Thanks for your comment and fair point it might make a difference but I'm not convinced.
Or better still a bait screw attached to a ring swivel or 360 bait screw as it's known as.
Couple of points Simon on what a couple of people have said. Firstly regarding the ronnie is the size of fish you're fishing for, I've not seen any damage to bigger fish i.e. over 20lbs but can see why perhaps with smaller fish and smaller mouths it could be a problem. I can't see these so-called top anglers using the ronnie if it was harmful to fish. Secondly someone mentioned anglers don't use hairs anymore, which you don't. Tim Paisley (who? some might ask) showed me the combi-rig many, many moons ago and I still use it today for bottom baits (singles or doubles), with about a 10mm gap between hook and bait, if the fish have got their heads down it's deadly! If I'm fishing up to pads, weedbeds or snags I shorten it down to about four inches. The only other rigs I use now are the ultra D rig for wafters or snowmen and the multi rig for pop-ups which as you said saves a fortune on buying all the various bits and pieces for tying different rigs which get binned after a short time. Again as you said the most important things are location and baiting up.
cheers for your comment and some very interesting points there. I prefer a rig that hooks in the bottom of the mouth 9 times out of ten and i just find the ronnie seems to hook them in the scissors more no matter what size of fish I’m fishing for. I also find I’ve lost quite a few on ronnies so I prefer a slightly higher pop up which I think hooks further back and more centrally in the mouth.
I went to France last year and used the Ronnie rig never lost a fish hook holds were solid
Fair play mate maybe I should give it more time. I've just found the hook holds to be inconsistent and lost a few fish but lots of people rate it.
my new lake ive joined is mostly gravel and lilly pads, ive spent money on supple armour link, basicly soft braid, fast sinking, any way lake in may is gravel bottom ive put marker rod out feels good, but seems to be a lot oe leaves, can you suggest a pop up rig with the supple braid i have please. a chod rig is not going to work in my opinion and i dont want to spend any more money on different hook type material . many thanks
What is the knot you use at the other end to the hook? Because your loops are kicking out rather than been straight in line with the rig???? I used to use it but can't remember which nott it is any more and I want to use it in my fishing again lol?????
Great vid Simon. I would like to see someone do more of this kind of thing. Makes a change from 99% of the carp vlogs on youtube. I always thought it would be interesting for someone to do a kind of Mythbusters for carp fishing. Like your popup comparison, it would be interesting to see other experiments. Boosted hookbaits vs regular. Particle vs boilie, small leads vs big leads, short vs long hook links, bright hookbaits vs natural. Lots of possibilities.
I'm planning on doing a few of this kind of video this year so watch this space. There's some great ideas there, I like Big leads vs small. The next one will be maggots vs boilies for winter carp 😉
Fishing in the rain - that's real fishing :)
I’ve always said that carp fishing is the preserve of the over thinker. I can’t see for the life of me how the bait presentation looks any different to a carp across all these rigs. Just one rig not mentioned, is the ‘Noodle’ 🙄 which to me looks like a reinvention of the ‘Withy Pool’ set up.
Good content mate 👍🏻
I think the noodle is more of a blowback type setup meant for bottom baits isn’t it? I definitey agree people tend to over think things. A simple rig in the right place will catch more than a complicated rig in the wrong place
I use to use fandango rigs and found it all a ball ache now I just use a braided hooklink about 7inches long standard knot less knot tiny bit of shrink tube over the eye and found the simpler the better, chod rig of I ever fish a pop again, pretty much just copied terry Hearn style of rigs
Intresting subject 👍The jm multi rig works differnt to the others as in when a fish pulls up tight the bait pulls tight to the eye ( clever fish or ones not moving far when feeding that is) The bait cant !! be used to help throw the hook Thats why it is imo quite difrernt to the others . Apart from that they all just pop up and can reset well !! I just ues combi rig use amneisa an suple braid hair blow back ring shrink tube kicker putty. And then just adjust size and length of them all acordinly job done botton bait rig /pop up rig all in 1
It's an interesting experiment. It would be great to know how many carp actually took the bait but did not get hooked. Even though the 360 and ronnie had poor hook holds, perhaps their rate of bites to hooks were higher.
Thanks mate I'm hoping to do a similar video for bottom bait rigs soon so the results will be interesting 👌
For the most part I would have to agree with you that any rig presented well should catch fish. However every rig you used will have subtle differences and with these subtle differences comes an anglers confidence. That is why people end up have a favourite rig because it give them confidence. So I say find the rig you are confident with.
Yeah I agree mate and that's kind on the point I wanted to make that all rigs will work so we don't need to blame the rig and just focus more on finding them. I do think that some rigs particularly the withy and hinged stiff are so similar they're basically the same 👍
I find you can catch smaller carp on a bent paper clip.
They are not the sharpest tools in the box.
The proof of the pudding would be trying these rigs on a pond full of older wiser carp.
I wonder if you would get the same results.
I was never a big pop up fan but the last 2 seasons has seen me using the ronnie/spinner rig slot and and has accounted for some lovely fish 2 yorkshire 30s . But it's all about location and substrate of the lake bed also think the lead set up has alot more to do with it than people think
I think the lead plays a massive part which is why I try to use an inline if I can get away with it. There's less movement before the fish hits the weight of the lead so less chance they can shed the rig before they get hooked. 👍
@@SimonDewCarpFishing with the ronnie spinner I have been using the helicopter on a leadcore leader (venue depending). And inline where I cant have had alot more fish on the lead core might be worth fishing them against each other 👍
What might be interesting is if you do a comparison video using curve shank vs wide gape on the ronnie rig to see what the hook holds are like over a session?! Just because they're so popular and back up or not what people are saying about fixing it with a wide gape?! Cool video mate cheers..
That a good idea I may consider that for a future vid 👍
@@SimonDewCarpFishing thanks man! I'd definitely be interested!
@@SimonDewCarpFishing please do that would be awesome 🖒🖒🖒
Nothing will ever beat the Multi rig, can't remember last time i lost a fish on a Multi... You can see why Penning, Jules cundiff, Bartrop etc swear by it 👌🏼
Multi is decent but they all do the job 👌
problem is setting up a multi rig that can withstand a cast with a pva bag, also the stiffness of the multi rig, cant really strip coating
@@deanazarnush884 any semi stiff coated braid is piss easy to strip back
Great video very interesting. Guess it's all down to confidence in your chosen rig.
Thanks mate much appreciated. I guess confidence comes from knowing that any rig will do in the right spot and once you’ve caught on a rig if you’re happy with the hook hold then stick with it
Usually use a snowman for most of my fishing catch most the time ,which I use braid or combi on a Heli set up or on hard bottoms hardly any weed running style.
@@paulfranciosi647 I really like a snowman too. I think a larger bait is harder for them to deal with once they suck it in 👌
I think it also depends what water your fishing what rigs have been hammered on there...what haven’t been used...size of fish... it all comes into play... big fish water and it hasn’t been hammered chod or hinge stiff rig is best I would say
It makes no difference as all these rigs are the same mechanically. A withy pool rig tied the same height as a Ronnie works in exactly the same way. A hinged stiff and a withy next to each other are identical if tied the same height. A supple boom is a good edge I think as it allows the rig to go right up into the carps mouth and also it settles onto uneven lake beds and weed etc. We have to remember carp don't know the difference between rigs so it's down to mechanical factors and a curved upright section and stiff boom is the same whatever the rig is
For sure all rigs can catch carp. But the question is witch one is harder to be crashed out after a take. I believe a fair comparison would be to put the 6 rigs into the water in same time and see which one performs better?
Interesting video simon and i think your dead right
However i still love the ronnie/spinner rig and i cant say ive really had the issue you've had and generally hooked them in bottom lip or deeper inside mouth. Think ive used all them rigs all bar the flick rig and 360 rig. And whats shocking is that despite your best effort to stop the 360 catching in the net with the shrink tubing it still happened, so it deffo wont ever put that in my armoury. But my most successful pop up rig ever would have to be the simple knotless knot rig in a solid pva bag 👍🏼👍🏼
Cheers Chris. Lots of people seem to swear by the Ronnie but I just can't seem to get consist hook holds. Even the bungy style boom that I showed a while back. It does work but withy rigs and multi rigs give more consistent results from my experience. I actually seem to be using another rig all the time now as it does everything. Did you see the vid on my rig that caught a 60. That can be used for bottom baits, snowmen, wafters, Pop ups and any other bait you want. It might just be a do it all rig 👌
@@SimonDewCarpFishing i dont think i did. Which video was it?
I agree here with what your saying fella, but In my opinion I think there is times to use different pop up rigs for instance if I was fishing just over boilies I wouldn’t opt for the 360 or multi rig but I would use them fishing over particle. But yeah as your saying location is key, doesn’t matter what you put on the last meter if the fish ain’t there you ain’t catching them 👍
Peaky Carperz I follow you on Instagram didn’t realise you had a channel mate
Snooker World yes mate, not a lot of content on there to be fair. I’m not good with cameras and stuff I’ve got some new recording stuff so should have more videos up this year 👍
👍👍👍👍
Just a quick question what was it u used again to water proof your bivvy and where do u get it from, thanks
Hi mate I used fabsil which you can buy online or from a camping shop 👌
I think your findings are spot on. 360 and ronnie rigs are a disaster waiting to happen, in terms of fish welfare, but if it sells unnecessary tackle items, companies will keep pushing them.
Cheers fella
Dan Haydon the 360 rig is dodgy because of what happened in the video. That exact reason, caught in the net and rips the fishes mouth. The Ronnie has shrink tubing over the eye having nothing to catch the net. Making it much safer than the 360.
@@thfcdan1986 I agree mate the Ronnie is safer than a 360 but I still think there are safer rigs. The Ronnie being so low tends to hook them in the corner of the mouth which damages the joint of the jawbone. A slightly higher pop up such as a withy or hinge stiff usually hooks in the middle of the bottom lip. Each to their own I guess we all have our own rigs we're confident in 👍
Always had good hook holds with Ronnie rigs in bottom lip but I use a wide gape hook so mite make a difference
If it works then stick with it! I just find a slightly higher pop up rig gives the best hook holds. I tested the Ronnie for a year or so and lost more fish than I've ever lost and the hook holds were always pretty average. I guess it comes down to what you're confident in 👍
Lead arrangement and spot selection would definitely have a bigger impact
agreed
had same problem with delkims and fake bleeps in bad wether i got prologic mk2 now and there fantastic
I totally agree they all do the same thing iv said this for years
A lot of people missed the point here. Thanks for agreeing with me 😁
I never stray to far from the multi or hinge stuff rig. I have made a few tweaks to the multi rig tho.
Anything you can share on here? 🤔
Really enjoyed the video is there any chance you can do a video on how to apply waterproofer onto your bivvy and the best product to do it with👍
Thanks for the comment mate. If I ever need to do it again I'll do a video. It's pretty simple though you just paint it on 👍
@@SimonDewCarpFishing what's the best stuff to use m8
@@tyronesaunders8454 I used fabsil mate which worked really well I think Thompsons is a good choice too 👌
@@SimonDewCarpFishing thanks m8 I'll give it a go
Tyrone Saunders I also use fab seal gold on my bivvy and bags
The most simple rig was the first to catch.
Just goes to show, don’t over think things.
Keep fishing simple. 😁😁
Absolutely mate location is the most important thing 👌😉
The pool rig you should try taska tungsten bits for it amazing stuff been out over 12 years now
will have look mate
@SimonDewCarpFishing might be hard to get hold of now mate taska have gone bust but they were doing tungsten beads years back befor anyone els the tungsten hook beads are amazing to for pop ups don't slide on the hook and give you more weight to balance out the pop up so no need for loads of tungsten down the hooklink
I come off the Ronnie this season. I just used blow back rig now.and Multi rig for my popups
Blowback works well for pop ups too 😉
Blowback snowman ;-)
The Ronne and hair rigs were created out of necessity because the baits people were using were so inferior, the carp wouldn't take them well enough for anglers to set the hook. Carp would mouth them but rarely eat them. The solution to all of the expensive and complicated equipment is to develop a bait that carp will aggressively eat. Living in the States I have no idea how to do that for the European carp, but I have done that very thing for Common carp.
I fish the euro style but I did pretty good just using corn on the hook and a Carolina rig back in the day. I’m in the states.
Actually hair rigs were created to hook carp better in the lips. Previously the hook was buried in the bait with the hook point covered which lead to lots of missed bited and also carp swallowing the hook. Having the hook exposed means the bait can be taken back a long way without the danger of deep hooking the fish 👌
You're partially right, Simon has addressed where you were wrong about the hair rig. Regarding bait, it isn't that the bait is rubbish, in the case of most high attract pop ups, these are loaded with high levels of flavours and attractors, when these hit the "tastebuds" in a carps mouth it us too much and they eject it, so therefore the mechanics of most pop up rigs are based around hooking them on ejection, rarely is it because they feel the hook, because 9/10 times, if the mechanics of the rig are correct, if they feel the hook, it's the point of it and the chances are it's game over
agreed location then bait and last rig I would not hve used an inline to be honest. The Ronnie on 20 + generally bottom lip. also likr the multi rig
I use an inline 90% of the time. I mostly fish hard spots at fairly short range so they're the best for the job in my opinion. I'm planning a video soon which will be putting different lead set ups against each other so the results will be really interesting I think 👍
What rods n reels are you using here Simon ?
I use Harrison torrix 12ft 3.25lb rods and shimano 14000 xtc ci4 reels 👌
I normally only fish popups if im using a chod rig personally otherwise im fishing bottom baits. I've tried popups on classic hair rigs using ssg shots to set the height with good success in the past, and thats about as basic as it can get.
If you like a chod I use the pool rig bits from taska tungsten curve and beads amazing mate never have to steam nothing can use soft braid and still keeps its curve forever because of the tungsten curve
I've found for me pop ups can single out the bigger fish but they don't work everywhere
Interesting Simon...👍🎣
Cheers fella.
Brilliant video and a great session, sometimes I don't catch that many fish in a 3 days 😂Anyway I think you have definitely proved a point and I agree, it doesn't really matter what rig you are using, if it is presented correctly and the fish are there you will catch. I prefer bottom baits and wafters myself using a slip D rig, a blow back rig or an IQ rig etc (obviously if it isn't weedy) I bet if you did a video using different bottom bait rigs your results would be the same!! Well done and point proved 👍 The last thing I would like to mention is, I really do not like your new alarms 😵💫I personally think they are ugly, very boxy, square looking and not a patch on the Delkims. Especially the new TXI-D'S which are compact, look great and are superb in build quality and technology and I believe there is not an alarm on the market to touch them, including the Fox, Nash etc everyone is trying to match or out do the Delkims but in my opinion they have not managed it yet!! I am guessing you have been paid or sponsored by the alarm company!! 🤫 There is no harm in that, Obviously Alan Blair is going to say the Nash alarms are the best and Harry Charrington will say the Fox alarms are the best etc. Remember this is only my opinion so calm down everyone before you start screaming and shouting!! 🤪😂All the best and tight lines 👍🎣🎣 and please keep these great videos coming 🤟
Cheers for watching fella. I have actually done a similar video with bottom baits if you look on my channel 😉
With regard to the alarms I personally liked them and wasn't at the time affiliated with any tackle companies it was just personal choice. I did however swap them for some delkims which I also liked and now I work for prologic so use their RMX fulcrum alarms which I also like. They all do the job tbh and it's down to personal preference I would never say one alarm was better than others for money just so you know 👍
You sound like you work for delkim alarms, but yeah I have some, you can’t beat them 👍
I have been using ronnie's all winter mainly all on a local lake (where there is 1 about 23lb and that's the biggest)which sadly is being hit quite badly by otters and it's a hard winter lake and the otters make it near impossible as they dont even want to feed at all I think because they know what's up theres many of carp with chunks out but all my fish there this winter have been on Ronnie's my biggest carp also the first carp of this year was 16lb then me and my gramp took a trip to a lake completely new to me about 40mins from where I live brand new to me didnt know much about it it was a old quarry and the water is crystal clear and I had two small mirrors about 4 or 5lbs each from there which surprised me it was about 1°c all of that day so the Ronnie is just my go to pop up rig I havnt really caught on others mite just be luck or coincidence but the Ronnie has done the business for me all been hooked in bottom lip in the middle and they haven't come out without me really trying to slide them out barbless by the way I dont use barbed I dont need to especially not on the Ronnie's the way they have been hooking🙂🎣
if you’re confident in it mate then keep using it. I’ve just found I loose fish with a ronnie and when I do land them the hook holds aren’t great
@@SimonDewCarpFishing everyone is different and each lake is different I need to experiment more this year on different lakes but need to find somewhere local
Can anyone give an opinion on a simple combi rig for pop ups. I'm trying to keep everything as simple as possible so using Hybrid stiff, with hook end stripped and about 5mm showing past eye of hook, bit of shrink to cover knot then putty to balance the pop-up. Fishing this on a heli with size 4 Krank and micro hook swivel and bead. Testing in a tank it looks fine but new to using pop ups so haven't built any confidence yet. Any reasons as to why this wouldn't be as effective as anything else, thanks everyone. Great video as well
Hi mate sorry just seen this. Your rig sounds fine in fact it sounds similar to a rig I use. Check out my video on the rig I used to catch a 60lber. Its basically the rig you described 👍
Simon Dew Carp Fishing Thanks a lot mate, really appreciated. Finding it so easy to get bogged down in all the fancy rigs and components and just want something I can stick with that works. I suppose the downside of that rig would be that you can't change the hook easily like the Ronnie's or multis. Would enjoy seeing a similar video on bottom baits/wafter rigs. 😱
@@Kb11466 you're welcome mate. I did the same with rigs then realised I mostly caught on something simple in the right spot and the right baiting situation 👌
Simon I'm looking to buy a new 2 man bivvy for myself and my son would you have any recommendation I would be very grateful cheers
Have a look at the Avid HQ dual layer mate I've just ordered one 👌
Cheers for the info simon kids and I love the channel keep it up thanks again
Nice video,well done.I sub ...
thanks mate much appreciated
Yep, all these different rigs are just marketing scams. And I’ve been debating just about every other factor on fishing ie ground baiting for days at a time vs just throwing a few boilies out vs single baits, and none of it seems to make a shred of difference. At our local small 3 acre lake that we fish constantly, we’ve piled in 5k of hemp into one swim, glugged baits, created as much attraction as possible and not even gotten a snifter, while 10 yards further down someone’s whipping out a 20 an hour on single baits. I don’t even believe groundbait works. Watching many underwater vids I’ve never seen fish bee lining their way into a swim as if they’ve smelled/sensed something from miles away, they merely loaf around and if your bait happens to be there then that’s it. ALL LUCK
Totally agree with what you're saying mate. Some lakes do respond differently though. I planning a whole load of videos challenging different things like bait application, rigs, pop ups vs wafters and bottom baits etc should be interesting 👌
@@SimonDewCarpFishing look forward to it, long as you’re not a sales rep 😂
If you do not include zigs and floter fishing I use 3 rigs for 99% of my fishing, the pop up rig I sent you a pic of and a KD rig, if I have to fish a barbless hook then I use a blow back instead of a KD rig. I have been useing the nash s5r and have been from the time they came out and they are very good for the price and just keep going and going and going and going.
I always hear good things about the Nash alarms tbh. I love the look of the ECU though and so far they're spot on
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I don't think that fishing on a match lake would really display the older and wiser carps ability to reject and eject certain types of rigs. Larger carp also feed in a different manner due to the size of the carp. Also with them being caught before theyre also more wary! In this situation you have lots of younger carp which I assume are heavily stocked and hence they're all competing for food and will eat anything out in front of them. Also different carp have different ways in which they feed. So if you were targeting a certain carp there may be a rig that works better. The mechanics of all these rigs will differ and wary carp that can eject and reject rigs may find that easier or harder with different rigs they come across. Ultimately this experiment was always gonna be flawed due to the fact these young hungry carp are going to eat anything you put out in front of them. Larger older carp, may have made this experiment more interesting and useful to specimen anglers.
I get what you’re saying and partly agree, but it’s February and I wanted to prove all these rigs work so I thought the best option was to fish somewhere I could get bites. To test 6 rigs on larger wary carp at any time of year and hope to catch on all of them would be nearly impossible. I think the mechanics of these rigs are basically the same if you really look at them the differences are minimal and won’t affect their effectiveness in my opinion. I just wanted to prove they work so people don’t worry so much about a rig when its very rarely down to the rig if you don’t catch
Going off the Ronnie rig if im honest so im gonna be trying a german rig i also use the best rig out there imo the iq 2 slip d rig snowman style
Not tried a German myself. I can't get my head around how it works I think you need some suppleness near the hook for better hook holds but I know some people really rate it
Simon Dew Carp Fishing yeah mate just one im testing for a bit but my iqd rigs are bang on i had one last night 23lb 10oz absolutely nailed was never coming off size 4 medium curve shank absolutely mint
I could never get my head round the German rig until I used it in France ,I used semi stiff hook link with a size 4 crank on a snowman and I caught a lot of carp to 45 pound absolutely nailed ,i had to change to barbless because I was struggling to get the hooks out!
New this for years , you are right .
Next video bottom bait rigs , seeing as most people follow trends pop ups or wafters .
What ever happened to the bottom
bait straight out of the bag ?
Something i will be using alot next year .I understand in using pop ups now with alot of leaf debris on the lake bed .
Bottom baits will be a big edge now .
Good film thankyou
Cheers for your comment and yes I may do a similar vid with bottom baits. I was actually planning on doing a video of bottom baits vs wafters vs pop ups on the same spot and see what wins! Be interesting results I recon 😉
I reckon the comment you made of people following rig trends is very true. And it's often the downfall of anglers expectations in the latest wonder rig. In my experience the number one criteria when deciding which rig to use is knowing the make up of the lake bed. Is it clean/clear or silty or weedy/choddy etc. Then knowing this will lead you to knowing which rig to use to get an effective presentation. The next criteria is for how the fish feed. On some lakes the fish like to dig around and feed in the silt. A pop up in that situation would probably be ignored or treated with suspicion but a critically balanced wafter presentation would likely be readily accepted. It's all about tuning in to the lake where you are fishing. Too many anglers sit with idle rods because they don't tune in, and expect the latest wonder rig to do it all for them.
@@SimonDewCarpFishing that'll be a great vid that I'm sure we'd all watch!
@@SimonDewCarpFishing try the bottom baits , braid , stiff rig , coated braid , fluro carbon , mono etc all with hairs added , would be interesting for sure , the one i use the most is braid . But one i have not used in years is the bottom stiff rig , stiff link straight through with no hinge and a bottom bait .
Thanks for reply Simon
Controversial or not the 360 for me . I shrink tube over the eye .
Fair play everyone has their favourite and it definitely works!
Have you caught much on a noodle rig if so could you do a video on it please
I've not really tried a noodle mate but isn't it just a blowback rig?
Simon Dew Carp Fishing yeah just longer piece of shrink tube with a big turn in it
It looks good tbh I'll definitely give it a go at some point 👌
At last someone with sense shelleys been sayin it for years location bait then rigs .i beleive tel said the stiff hinge shud curve like your thumb and the withy shud curve rnd more i think . As for fabsil sack that n use thompsons water seal 100 tines better
Cheers for your comment mate and I'll give Thompson a go next time! 👍
I agree. There must be a reason why the majority of the best anglers out there use simple rigs and never change 😉
@@SimonDewCarpFishing with thompsons u can do everything i did my boots rod sleeves sling £16 for 5 ltrs i think
@@SimonDewCarpFishing be interesting to hear ppls theories abt why they work ie the mechanics of them
I wouldn't use Thompson's ever again! mine and a few friends bivvies ruined with it, delaminated the coating and also stained bivvies, also down the line causes rot 😬
Hi what about the k d rig I no it’s not the same style as them but still a pop up rig
The KD rig is for balanced bottom baits not pop ups fella 👍
@@SimonDewCarpFishing I think you'll find it was invented using pop ups.
@@Scottymol it uses a balanced pop up so fished as a wafter mate not a pop up 👍
@@Scottymol yes a pop up but balanced with a shot so it sits close to the bottom and not popping the hook up
@@Scottymol a pop up rig is when the hook is off the bottom mate.
New rigs only brought out to sell end tackle.You dont need 7 components on a hooklink to catch carp.Braid and a hook that’s it.Keep it simple.I favour the multi rig as its easy to tie.You only need to change the hook and not the whole hooklink and it catches fish.Personally think Ronnie rig and 360 rig cause terrible mouth damage.
Allan Weaver I use the Ronnie rig and I’ve never seen it cause any mouth damage
I couldn't agree more with what you are attempting to prove, It's not rocket science....I would go one further and say bait is over rated too.
It's where your rig is placed, and you touched on something else too.....a sharp hook.
No rig will catch fish that aren't there. I used to fish short sessions of no more than 3 hours on a very well known big fish water that was quite tricky. Actual fishing time could be no more than 30 minutes, the rest of the time would be spent searching for feeding fish, the rig mattered not but the trick was getting it amongst the fish without spooking them, it was great fun always being on the move sometimes doing 3 or 4 laps of the 15 acre lake before finding fish, always in areas furthest away from the nearest angler regardless of the conditions which proved that angling pressure had more relevance over the movement of the fish.
The bites would usually come within minutes and always on single natural baits, getting the rig amongst them without them suspecting that anything had changed in their natural feeding environment was what I was trying to achieve, so I never ever used any free offerings to alert them of my prescence.....rightly or wrongly.
I try to imagine what is happening to the rigs when a group of big fish are feeding around it, I imagine the disturbance they cause kicking the water around violently made me sure the rigs are not performing as perfectly as we think they are, so for that reason I used short rigs of no more than 4 inches so they wouldn't tangle and tiny leads, the one third ounce guru pear leads or even free lining if I could get away with it.
The most important things an angler has is their eyes and ears.....in my opinion, plus stealth and mobility
Very interesting mate thanks for that. It reminds me I need to give stalking more of a go as it can be deadly if you find them I like the idea of super light weights and a super sharp hook maybe fished running so the fish are hooked more by the rod tip than the lead 👌
@@SimonDewCarpFishing keep the videos coming Simon, really enjoy them....thank you
How can the Withypool rig be better at hook holds if you lost a fish on one this sesh and not any others?
fishing lakes like this with smaller fish you always loose a few due to their small mouths and aggressive feeding where they snatch at the bait. I’ve used a withy rig for 4 or more years and caught uk fish up to 52lb 6oz so i’m really confident in it and generally the hook holds are better compared to other fish. All rigs worknthough and it’s down to personal preference