Drag queen slams anti-trans discourse, Reform UK's rise, and lies behind the culture war

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  • čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
  • We were joined by drag superstar Divina De Campo for our election night coverage, where we discussed Nigel Farage's wins from the Tories, the fallacy of the culture war and the failures of Rishi Sunak on LGBT rights.
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Komentáře • 278

  • @Megan-ii4gf
    @Megan-ii4gf Před 19 dny +145

    I appreciate the podcast but it's striking to me how UK media only uses drag queens to talk about trans issues which seems to generate the idea in people's minds that I'm a drag queen when I'm not.

    • @fitz7231
      @fitz7231 Před 19 dny +27

      This is something I've noticed too. When I was in uni and starting to try and talk to friends about potentially being trans - they just said 'Oh I love Drag Race!' as though it was the same thing. Back then - the idea of performing womanhood for entertainment and laughs was horrifying to me - who just wanted to not be stared at, and go about their day quietly.

    • @SEHmmmmmm
      @SEHmmmmmm Před 19 dny +16

      Yes. Definitely creates/cements a “blurred narrative” for those uninterested in stepping out of their ignorance/bigotry. With media that is trans positive, they should definitely be speaking with trans folk, and drag artists, and trans drag artists.
      However, with the antagonistic “side” of the media, sadly the majority, I appreciate cis drag acts standing up and “taking the brunt”. I wish I could say “as long as trans folk were invited first” but I do not trust broadcasting bodies to even ask in a “non damaging” way. They can’t even manage “neutral”!
      Side note; I am always here for more Divina!

    • @jamesvalentine2845
      @jamesvalentine2845 Před 19 dny +5

      It doesn't help that so many times when you ask trans people to talk about things they either refuse or go off at everyone and weaken their points with ridiculous statements.

    • @tomfinney3416
      @tomfinney3416 Před 19 dny +2

      its only ignorance generally but it can mean the inquisitive learn the nuances ,
      most press is bad press no matter who you are , if the media tax dodging moguls want folk to be anry at you they will
      but those who see the media and question it , they wise up

    • @user-sd3ik9rt6d
      @user-sd3ik9rt6d Před 19 dny +7

      Pod save the UK have had some good interviews you may be more comfortable with.

  • @imnottellingyoumyname3050
    @imnottellingyoumyname3050 Před 19 dny +127

    Trans obsession is another distraction tactic. Got way bigger issues that are objectively more important.
    The amount of coverage this topic gets is absolutely bonkers.

    • @ince55ant
      @ince55ant Před 19 dny +15

      in typical fashion its such a tiny minority... like what is it ~1% of the population?
      nevermind how difficult it is as an identity, from getting healthcare to the various rights hampered by being trans

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před 19 dny +2

      @@ince55ant I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the true figure is about 5-10% if we removed the barriers you mention (and had a slightly more expansive definition, just like how we include bi people nowadays but back then most people only thought in terms of straight and gay).

    • @user-sd3ik9rt6d
      @user-sd3ik9rt6d Před 19 dny +2

      We have to cover it to push back, silence is deadly.

    • @ryantate6447
      @ryantate6447 Před 19 dny +6

      Exactly and politicsjoe just feed into with this twoddle

    • @imnottellingyoumyname3050
      @imnottellingyoumyname3050 Před 19 dny

      ​@@ryantate6447yep. I wonder how many people who thumbs upped my comment thought I was just referring to your Daily Mails and GB News'

  • @Jennralize
    @Jennralize Před 19 dny +38

    Please can you have a trans person on to talk about this and associated topics in future? Happy to step in and discuss it with you, if you need a volunteer - I speak with CEOs and executives around the country about being trans and recovering from homelessness and sex work in the current social climate, so am more than happy to sit down and have the difficult conversations with you guys, also.

    • @kaesmith2893
      @kaesmith2893 Před 19 dny +1

      She has said she’s part of the Trans community.

  • @jessonabike
    @jessonabike Před 18 dny +10

    I love Davina and her advocacy on trans issues. However can't @PoliticsJOE scrape up an actual transperson to provide commentary on the trans culture war? You're weak here, @NovaraMedia have a trans journalist.

    • @TheAArmstrong
      @TheAArmstrong Před 13 dny +1

      Ash Sarkar??

    • @SquierMarr
      @SquierMarr Před 12 dny

      @@TheAArmstrong No bro Ash is not trans they have other female journalists lol

    • @TheAArmstrong
      @TheAArmstrong Před 12 dny

      @@SquierMarr Just because she has a five o clock shadow, raised suspicion, I thought she might be a trans.

    • @jessonabike
      @jessonabike Před 11 dny

      Helena @NoJusticeMTG

  • @missyprime8198
    @missyprime8198 Před 19 dny +17

    Please stop using drag queens to discuss trans issues.
    I am a trans woman 24/7, this isn't a costume or act that I can don or drop on a whim & having drag queens speak on trans issues reinforces the idea in anti trans minds that me being trans is an act.
    There are highly articulate trans people out there like Katy Montgomerie, Shon Faye & more who can properly represent trans people

    • @willowtdog6449
      @willowtdog6449 Před 18 dny +1

      Isn’t Divina non-binary?

    • @missyprime8198
      @missyprime8198 Před 18 dny +1

      @@willowtdog6449 they may be but the average person falling for Daily Fail headlines won't understand that nuance.
      If Davina's being introduced as a drag queen then that's what average Joe public will latch onto which will feed into the already present anti trans bias.

    • @christophermachon1964
      @christophermachon1964 Před 15 dny

      I’m trans and a queen. I don’t think we should be making any compromises towards daily fail readers and we stumble into “pick me” territory when we say as trans people, that we don’t want queens representing us. We all share a common enemy and are fighting the same prejudices.

    • @missyprime8198
      @missyprime8198 Před 15 dny

      It's got nothing to do with "pick me", it's about sending clear, informative messages to counter the daily deluge of anti trans propaganda being pushed by pretty much all corners of UK media.
      Section 28 & the years of anti gay propaganda leading up to it was bad, what's happening now is far worse (look for the report "Tip of the iceberg" to see the amount of right wing money being ploughed into the anti trans movement).
      it says in the title "drag queen slams..." there's no mention there that they're trans.
      I only learned that part when I read it in comments, it was pretty much glossed over & ignored for the entire video.
      This isn't the first time Pol Joe has done this sort of thing.
      When you're fighting a powerful propaganda machine you need to pay attention to it & ensure the rare times we get to speak that our messaging is crystal clear & not feeding into the propaganda.

  • @FishfaceTheDestroyer
    @FishfaceTheDestroyer Před 14 dny +2

    Everyone here, please be aware that Wes Streeting, the Secretary of Health and Social Care, has just moved to ban puberty blockers permanently.

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L Před 19 dny +25

    That’s a great point at the end. The NHS should just say “we’ll support you if you ever change your mind” rather than wasting years going “we need to make 100,000% sure you won’t change your mind”. Because that’s how we deal with issues with hip or knee surgery - contingent support plans, not trying to make sure only Truly Really Sure people get new hips.

    • @Xentillus
      @Xentillus Před 19 dny +6

      Not to mention it's a fraction of a percent that change their mind, and those are nearly all due to external pressure and not being accepted.
      It's my body, I know what I want and need to do to it. I don't need to be infantilised and have to prove myself.

    • @treeaboo
      @treeaboo Před 19 dny

      @@Xentillus The general public really does not realise that it is quite literally low double digits in the UK, it's a fraction of a percent of a fraction of a percent of less than 1% of the population.
      In a study of 3,398 trans patients under the NHS' care, only 0.09% (3 people) detransitioned with no intention to retransition. Of that 0.09% it is statistically unlikely that most had even begun medical transition yet (given how absurdly long it takes and difficult it is to be able to start it under the NHS), and had only undergone social transition, which is obviously entirely reversible.
      The amount of permanent detransitioners, those who detransition because they aren't trans - rather than the overwhelming majority of detransitioners who do so only temporarily due to being forced to by transphobia in their living situations, who then go on to retransition later once safe - is vanishingly small (and I will add, should obviously be treated with all the care required to undo any medical transition in the case they've had any).
      Alas, we have to pay the price instead by being forced to wait for near-decade waiting lists + years of jumping through ridiculous hoops to prove ourselves to access treatment so we can simply live our lives, just in case of a regret rate lower than literally every surgery there is. (Which I must add, leads to the deaths of trans kids/teens, stuck trying to get treatment).

    • @Xentillus
      @Xentillus Před 18 dny

      @@treeaboo On top of all of this, trans people as a whole have a suicide rate considerably above the national base line. But when you break it down, all of that is concentrated in "trans people who are unable to transition or access the help they need". Post transition the rate is back down to baseline (or lower). We live in such a society that is so actively punishing and excluding us that people (including kids) are taking their own lives at an astonishing rate.
      I consider myself so fortunate to have a support network and the funds to be able to access at least some private healthcare and therapy, I dread to think where my life would be in 6+ years on a waiting list with no help.

  • @bernieburrows3731
    @bernieburrows3731 Před 19 dny +21

    I'm really sorry but the background noises, in these interviews, are really distracting and personally give me a headache 😢

    • @uaskcred
      @uaskcred Před 19 dny

      i was just going to comment on that! so unprofessional

    • @aaronmarsh4284
      @aaronmarsh4284 Před 19 dny +1

      These were segments were taken from during the election night live stream so a lot of people in the room as part of a "special"

    • @Dutch3DMaster
      @Dutch3DMaster Před 17 dny

      @@aaronmarsh4284 But these microphones can be regulated to the point you can suppress those noises quite well. I get that it might be a special night, but it was indeed quite distracting.

  • @Daniel.Walker
    @Daniel.Walker Před 19 dny +3

    Divina the legend. Speaking truth that so many of us know but many don’t say on a public platform.

  • @Tom_murray89
    @Tom_murray89 Před 19 dny +14

    Trans people need to be given the right to express what they want to express the government needs to be on the side of trans people

    • @ambientjohnny
      @ambientjohnny Před 15 dny

      Males aren't female, and males do not belong in female-only spaces or activities regardless of how they feel inside, how weak they are compared to other males etc. To support the erosion of all female sex-based rights and protections is blatant misogyny.

  • @joeparrish6260
    @joeparrish6260 Před 19 dny +4

    Please get Divina on again, absolutely amazing polticial commentary, so well informed, brilliantly explained and also pretty fabulous too 👏👏👏

  • @JamieAlice92
    @JamieAlice92 Před 19 dny +10

    Has politicsjoe ever had an actual trans person on their show?

    • @kaesmith2893
      @kaesmith2893 Před 19 dny

      She identifies as Trans as well as a drag queen.

  • @TheLampini
    @TheLampini Před 19 dny +4

    It amuses me that the most vocal pearl-clutchers are the same folks who grew up screaming with laughter at Larry Grayson and Gloria from It Ain't Half Hot Mum 😂😂😂

  • @LeornianCyng
    @LeornianCyng Před 19 dny +11

    The way Trans people have been treated as of late is absolutely appalling. The LGBT community has existed for thousands of years across the world, in every civilisation since the birth of the homo-sapians (human species). They played an enormous part in many ancient civilisations. In fact homosexuality, asexuality, gender transition / dysphoria is common in pretty much most species that have ever existed since the planet earth was formed. Going back to the human species, in the western so called Christian world, boys wore pink and girls wore blue right up until the beginning of the 20th century. In fact the word boy meant servant. More importantly, boys were called naive-girls and girls were called gay-girls. As far as gender, masculinity, femininity in a social context there is no such thing, it doesn’t exist and every human in that sense is “fluid”. In short, equal rights are universal and we all need to come together and just live.

    • @ambientjohnny
      @ambientjohnny Před 15 dny

      Males aren't female, and males do not belong in female-only spaces or activities regardless of how they feel inside, how weak they are compared to other males etc. To support the erosion of all female sex-based rights and protections is blatant misogyny.

  • @mrshaggybreeks
    @mrshaggybreeks Před 19 dny +1

    20 mins and the truth is spoken!

  • @KingdomEnfilade
    @KingdomEnfilade Před 19 dny +8

    I appreciate what she says. it would be nice for platforms like this to feature actual trans people talking about trans rights and their experiences, rather than drag artists, supportive as they are.

  • @tomfinney3416
    @tomfinney3416 Před 19 dny +22

    its not a drag artiste that has made so many of us poorer , its not a drag artiste that has let society crumble into bleak austerity ,
    so i dont have a problem with a human who chooses to wear a dress

    • @sophiedolman2230
      @sophiedolman2230 Před 19 dny +8

      Do you have any idea how offensive the "bloke in a dress" comment is?? Especially in a vlog about trans hate in politics!!

    • @verandisoldusty6834
      @verandisoldusty6834 Před 19 dny +9

      A bloke in a dress is not a trans woman. There's a whole world of difference.

    • @tomfinney3416
      @tomfinney3416 Před 19 dny +2

      @@sophiedolman2230 no but i donot find a bloke in a dress as offensive ,folk can wear whatever they like as far as im concerned , you should stop feeling threatened by it though

    • @sophiedolman2230
      @sophiedolman2230 Před 19 dny +3

      @@tomfinney3416 threatened by what??

    • @tomfinney3416
      @tomfinney3416 Před 19 dny +2

      @@sophiedolman2230 you found the phrase offensive it threatened you and your morality on trans gender , you even went full on exclamation marks lol , but its just a bloke in a dress granted he wears makeup , there really isnt anything offensive about me being literal

  • @Daniel.Walker
    @Daniel.Walker Před 19 dny

    I’d vote for divina as a green candidate in a heartbeat!

  • @user-jg2kf2kw2i
    @user-jg2kf2kw2i Před 18 dny

    The background talking is ruining this otherwise interesting discussion for me

  • @dondoodat
    @dondoodat Před 19 dny +21

    First they came for trans, and I did not speak out-because I was not trans.
    Then they came for the Drag Artists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Drag Artist.
    Then they came for the LGBTQ+ and I did not speak out-because I was not LGBTQ+.
    Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
    ......or something.

    • @test-bu8sw
      @test-bu8sw Před 19 dny

      First they came for the "cis" white men, or was it the boomers?

    • @somebody.5402
      @somebody.5402 Před 19 dny +3

      Yes this is how it works exactly, and people don't understand.
      All oppressions are connected.

    • @dondoodat
      @dondoodat Před 19 dny +1

      ​@@test-bu8sw
      Who came for them and how did it manifest itself ?
      What restrictions have been placed on you ?

    • @test-bu8sw
      @test-bu8sw Před 19 dny

      @@dondoodat The same restirctions that have been places on the trans community...absolutly fucking none. However to many from other groups they are seen as the oppressor.

    • @test-bu8sw
      @test-bu8sw Před 19 dny

      @@dondoodat The same restrictions that have been placed on Trans people....absolutely none.
      Who came for them, the same boogeymen that comes for eveyone else apparently.

  • @thecfbutcher1174
    @thecfbutcher1174 Před 10 dny

    Who is that clown?

  • @Tochinoki
    @Tochinoki Před 18 dny

    awful sound, might as well listen to this on my phone while sat in a pub

  • @picaso023
    @picaso023 Před 19 dny +7

    More trans talk, it never-ending

  • @orange9107
    @orange9107 Před 19 dny +11

    Love divina ❤

  • @dean9235
    @dean9235 Před 19 dny +3

    What a brilliant speaker.

  • @traceybradbury5022
    @traceybradbury5022 Před 19 dny

    ❤❤😅

  • @chisasa9509
    @chisasa9509 Před 19 dny

    😷

  • @Beelzebunge
    @Beelzebunge Před 13 dny +1

    😜🤪

  • @josiahpt1
    @josiahpt1 Před 19 dny +1

    Love the podcast but the audio is sooooo distracting

    • @RedSaint83
      @RedSaint83 Před 19 dny

      This was during election night, that's why there's a lot of people in the studio behind the camera.

  • @LimeyRedneck
    @LimeyRedneck Před 19 dny

    🤠💜

  • @zenoelea8239
    @zenoelea8239 Před 19 dny

    This was a brilliant discussion, we need more like this. Perhaps get a gay MP and have a similar discussion, Wes Streeting ?. Well managed Ed.

  • @megasin1
    @megasin1 Před 19 dny +1

    do we have to say slams?

  • @robertpetre9378
    @robertpetre9378 Před 19 dny

    There won’t be any toilets 🚽 when the world is on fire 🔥 😂😂

  • @Thelma7361
    @Thelma7361 Před 17 dny +1

    ERM let trans people speak on trans issues???
    All fine with other queer people giving an opinion but where are the trans voices also at the table. It’s so rude to just constantly cut a minority out of their own debate.

  • @weebatron5793
    @weebatron5793 Před 19 dny

    Man I love Divina.

  • @EmmaDelamare
    @EmmaDelamare Před 19 dny +1

    Algorithm comment

  • @tonynibbles
    @tonynibbles Před 19 dny +2

    Love this. More of Divina please!

  • @Bruce-yv9tm
    @Bruce-yv9tm Před 19 dny +1

    I love Divina. I met them for the first time at DragCon this year and had a great conversation about queer rights and the filthy tories.

  • @mary.e645
    @mary.e645 Před 19 dny +7

    I'm bored with this good bye.

  • @StephMcAlea
    @StephMcAlea Před 19 dny +1

    Two points:
    I always respond to questions about me being trans in terms if race.
    If we look at "Gender critical views" in terms if race, people stop asking because it looks racist.
    "So what do you think of gender critical people?"
    "I have no views on Race Critical people."
    "No, I'm talking about the transgenders."
    "Sorry, I'm not a PoC so can't speak for the black community."
    Bigotry against trans people is only slightly off from being racist, antisemitism, ableism, etc.
    Second point: please someone stop her laughing!

    • @LimeyRedneck
      @LimeyRedneck Před 19 dny

      @@StephMcAlea Agreed on both counts! 😄

  • @pjl8119
    @pjl8119 Před 19 dny

    It's an emotive subject with no clear black and white answers - therefore it's perfect clickbait and distraction fodder for grifters.

    • @Dutch3DMaster
      @Dutch3DMaster Před 17 dny +1

      There are clear black and white answers.
      Discrimination is not an opinion to hold. The medical care of transpeople has been proven over and over again to be safe.
      Taking into account that yes, there can be side effects, but that those are considered a well-known, well-discussed (with the transperson and the parents of said transperson if the transperson is a minor) trade-off compared to not-treating someone.
      The mere fact you are saying this is a subjective subject with no clear black and white answers, clearly shows how a part of the political spectrum has been successful in abusing the knowledge vacuum most members of the general public has.
      They created the idea that there are both sides to this issue and that they should both be taken equally serious.
      Which is simply not true: Transpeople are getting murdered, physically beaten, harassed, bullied. Not cis-people. Cis-people are only asked to simply be tolerant, exercise a form of respect. But in their eyes, that is perceived as a threat, as something that means they are going to loose some of their rights while we gain more than them.

    • @climaksy1659
      @climaksy1659 Před 17 dny

      @@Dutch3DMaster ywnbaw

  • @user-sd3ik9rt6d
    @user-sd3ik9rt6d Před 19 dny +2

    Trans are the thin end of the gay wedge, the gay are the thin end of all the other wedges....

    • @dondoodat
      @dondoodat Před 19 dny +7

      Your comment is the thin end of a wedge.
      I sense the longer it goes on the thicker it'll get.

    • @LimeyRedneck
      @LimeyRedneck Před 19 dny +1

      @@dondoodat 😂

  • @axelbruv
    @axelbruv Před 17 dny

    So much for "politics for the many".

    • @rosejuliette9180
      @rosejuliette9180 Před 11 dny

      It's essential to protect minorities. Failure to protect minorities will ultimately lead to you losing your rights too. The precedent set by anti trans legislation in this country is leading to deaths of queer people not only here but overseas as well. It is also negatively impacting all patient rights in the NHS which could lead to dismissal of patient autonomy for under 25s on treatments that aren't trans related. There are organisations who have seen the recent legislation and want to apply it to birth control and abortion under 25. So yeah...

  • @pjmlfc05
    @pjmlfc05 Před 19 dny +2

    And the left has all the answers?! SMH.

    • @RGBmode
      @RGBmode Před 19 dny +1

      The right are always wrong. It's their unique selling point, being completely incompetent, spiteful, intolerant and in almost all cases their IQ is insufficient for learning any new tasks or absorbing new information past the age of 14. They're like vegans in that they'll announce their low IQ in public every time they open their mouths. It really is quite remarkable. The modern day dunce hat wearer.

    • @aaabbc379
      @aaabbc379 Před 19 dny +3

      no, but they’ve got some answers and are at least putting some solutions out there. the right offers nothing

    • @pjmlfc05
      @pjmlfc05 Před 18 dny

      ​@aaabbc379 there you go then. Some answers is not good enough. Action speaks louder than words.

    • @aaabbc379
      @aaabbc379 Před 18 dny

      @@pjmlfc05 some answers is better than nothing. that should be obvious

    • @pjmlfc05
      @pjmlfc05 Před 18 dny

      ​@aaabbc379 not necessarily the right answer though are they? We don't need left or right, that is division. We need someone aligned to the middle.

  • @Cross_heart09
    @Cross_heart09 Před 19 dny +1

    reform talk about country interest.... this man talk about his rights interest😂😂😂😂which one is more important

    • @RGBmode
      @RGBmode Před 19 dny +3

      Individual liberty is always top of the list of the national interest.

  • @Tr1ckM1rr0r
    @Tr1ckM1rr0r Před 19 dny +2

    The what is a woman question is actually super easy its a woman is a person that identifies with the social schema on female.

  • @SashaGrace94
    @SashaGrace94 Před 19 dny +5

    Any Prime Minister who uses his first speech in power to highlight that this parliament is the most LGBT representative parliament in the world but believes that Trans people shouldn’t use single sex spaces is no ally to any of us. Starmer uses Trans people to score capital over the Tories but then continues to punch down on a marginalised community.

    • @RGBmode
      @RGBmode Před 19 dny +1

      That's a very odd characterisation of reality. What he said was trans women subject to abuse should be given their own safe space away from cis women in a woman's refuge centre.
      It's a rather odd statement because women by default are in their own space in the refuge and don't have to mix with other women, regardless of any of them being trans or not.
      It is you who are abusing trans women in order to have a pop at Starmer, which quite clearly makes you look far worse.
      It's called projection, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

    • @badgers1975
      @badgers1975 Před 18 dny +2

      This is the same guy who flew to the states to personally apologise because he couldn't extradite an at risk autistic, starmer is no friend to any community he's a political chameleon he changes colour to suit his mood

    • @NeonVisual
      @NeonVisual Před 18 dny

      @@badgers1975 All everyone hears is "wahh wahh Labour wahh!"...

  • @stevejones3868
    @stevejones3868 Před 18 dny +2

    Putin recently said - Do what you like, but keep away it away from the children.

    • @django3422
      @django3422 Před 14 dny

      Because he's a disingenuous PoS who has to create a false narrative.

    • @stevejones3868
      @stevejones3868 Před 13 dny

      @@django3422 Know him then? Or are you just following your average BBC 'Russia Are The Real Enemy!' rhetoric. Don't like the fact he hates child abusers? Mmmm.

    • @stevejones3868
      @stevejones3868 Před 13 dny

      @@django3422 I'm sorry, but my reply has been deleted. Your type are obviously being protected.

    • @django3422
      @django3422 Před 13 dny

      ​@@stevejones3868It wasn't deleted, just filtered. I can see it clearly.
      No, I don't know Putin and I don't need to. He's been pushing the whole false narrative conflating LGBT people with child abusers for a long time, while never presenting any evidence that supports his claims. Quite the contrary, we know that children are at far greater risk from religious figures. He's just using identity politics.
      No, I don't follow any BBC rhetoric. Russia has proven itself through its own actions. And "my type"? You assume a lot but clearly don't know anything.

  • @firestarter1888
    @firestarter1888 Před 16 dny +2

    At least get Posy Parker on to counter this rhetoric, as a balanced perspective.

    • @django3422
      @django3422 Před 14 dny +1

      You'd need to find an anti-trans voice that doesn't have strong links to white supremacists.

    • @firestarter1888
      @firestarter1888 Před 14 dny +1

      @@django3422 why is that? to fit into what you percieve as acceptable speech?

    • @django3422
      @django3422 Před 14 dny +1

      @@firestarter1888 Call me weird, I don't think it's good to platform white supremacists. Why, do you?

    • @firestarter1888
      @firestarter1888 Před 14 dny +1

      @@django3422You seem to miss the whole point of living in a democratic country.

    • @django3422
      @django3422 Před 14 dny

      @@firestarter1888 Democracy means governance by representation. What about that means we should platform white supremacists? And do you agree with platforming white supremacist views?

  • @user-cl9uo1eq6q
    @user-cl9uo1eq6q Před 19 dny +3

    For balance, it's worth noting that the assertions of this being "fearmongering", "a non issue" and "just culture war" are being made without a single female person in the room.

    • @treeaboo
      @treeaboo Před 19 dny +1

      For balance, it is factually correct. As it is factually correct that most cis women aren't anti-trans, that cis lesbians are the most trans-friendly demographic, and that cis straight men are the most transphobic demographic by far.

  • @jim-es8qk
    @jim-es8qk Před 19 dny +2

    Don't worry, Starmer will legislate to control our thoughts, and so bad words can't hurt you.

    • @lazorr3260
      @lazorr3260 Před 19 dny +9

      Awww did the fact that some people like to dress different hurt your feelings little human?

    • @RGBmode
      @RGBmode Před 19 dny +2

      You're in a small minority yourself, in that you can't control your offensive behaviour and so legislation is required in order to control you where your parents never did.
      It's also interesting that people such as yourself have an obsession with little boys in dresses. You're going to end up on a watch list if you're not already on one.

    • @jim-es8qk
      @jim-es8qk Před 19 dny +1

      ​@@lazorr3260That's not why im annoyed. You are asking me to accept a lie. And if I don't go along with the lie I could potentially find myself in jail. Wear what you want, I would say its none of my business. But these people insist on making it my business.

    • @lazorr3260
      @lazorr3260 Před 19 dny +2

      @@jim-es8qk how?

    • @jim-es8qk
      @jim-es8qk Před 19 dny +1

      ​@@lazorr3260A woman can't have a penis. It's a lie. In alot of people's mind that is what the debate is about. The quest for the truth and freedom of speech.

  • @vincentblack7467
    @vincentblack7467 Před 18 dny

    This channel got mush for brains... Everything what's going off in the country and this is the topic...

    • @Dutch3DMaster
      @Dutch3DMaster Před 17 dny +1

      Because with everything going on in the country there are politicians suffering a massive brainrot and think that this is the more important issue to talk about.
      There is now a person exposing the lies of the current political landscape, which is why that person is a guest and talking about this, and explaining why it's such a mess.
      We saw the same in The Netherlands.
      We have one of the worst housing crises ever, we are suffering the results of climate change, we are suffering a breakdown of healthcare due to staff shortages due to the administrative workload, low wages, we are seeing similar problems in education, we have an immigration crises.
      (This last thing by the way being the result of our former right-leaning government continue to push the problem ahead of them for years).
      But nope, at the 15th of February, within 1 month of forming a House of Representatives, a party decided to show who they think are causing the ACTUAL, REAL problems in The Netherlands.
      They filed motions meant to target less then 0,000006% of the population EACH year.
      Not to improve their lives, of course not: to bully them, and scare them. And of course it started with them worrying about the safety of transchildren...

    • @django3422
      @django3422 Před 14 dny

      Its not like this is the only topic this channel is covering.

  • @walterking5453
    @walterking5453 Před 19 dny +7

    I have never heard as much bollocks in my life. This is definitely a fraud.

  • @theleftyboater
    @theleftyboater Před 19 dny +16

    How about getting an actual trans person on to talk about trans stuff? Just a thought 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před 19 dny +8

      Divina uses she/her pronouns, as far as I know, even when she’s not “dressed up”.
      That’s a valid GQ/NB/bigender/androgyne experience (haven’t looked into the word she prefers) and isn’t any less trans.
      Now, would I love to see an even wider range of trans people come on? Absolutely. We should have an all-trans podcast with 3-4 trans panellists (including the host)!

    • @Frithogar
      @Frithogar Před 19 dny +4

      Journalists cannot force anyone to talk publicly about any subject, especially when the English public is full of haters on all sides of the political abyss. Divina is a heroine.

    • @DivinaDeCampoTV
      @DivinaDeCampoTV Před 19 dny +9

      Hi. I am part of the trans family. X

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před 19 dny +2

      @@DivinaDeCampoTV oh excellent, you have your own channel! Please let me know if you’d like me to amend my comment in any way x

    • @test-bu8sw
      @test-bu8sw Před 19 dny +5

      ​@@DivinaDeCampoTV There is no trans comminuity or lgbtq community for that matter , its just people believing they can speak on behalf certain self imposed paramaters, if it were to exist it would also include Douglas Murray and Ariel Pink. Unless they are tthe wrong "type" of alphabet people.

  • @jayb2661
    @jayb2661 Před 19 dny +9

    Nobody cares about this apart from the two people it applies too. Stop it. Get some help.

    • @kaesmith2893
      @kaesmith2893 Před 19 dny +1

      Many people do, including people hostile to Trans people. You do too, or you wouldn’t be throwing invectives about ‘get help’.

    • @pjl8119
      @pjl8119 Před 19 dny

      ​@@kaesmith2893I wish trans people well but I couldn't care less about the issue. It's a subject that is used as clickbait by internet grifters and populist politicians to distract from their abject lack of policies. It's not important enough to justify the years of wall to wall media coverage.