Abraham Lincoln's Vision of Democracy | Allen Guelzo
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- In this episode of The Larry Arnn Show, Hillsdale College President Larry P. Arnn interviews historian and Lincoln scholar Allen C. Guelzo. The two discuss Guelzo's new book Our Ancient Faith: Lincoln, Democracy, and the American Experiment , Lincoln's vision of Political Economy, and various examples of Lincoln's shrewdness as a statesman.
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1:31 Introduction
4:04 American intellectual history
5:54 The Dr. Harry Jaffa connection
13:53 Abraham Lincoln: Redeemer President
18:10 Lincoln's political economy
25:03 Lincoln's interest in self-transformation
31:21 Lincoln's interest in the eternal
40:42 August of 1862
47:18 "Apples of gold in pictures of silver."
52:19 Lincoln's restraint
57:46 Lincoln's logic
This interview was conducted on April 15th, 2024.
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Thank you for these insights to Abraham Lincoln.
Excellent watching in the Land of Lincoln.
I really enjoyed listening to this discussion. It happens that I’ve recently begun to read Doris Kearns Goodwin’s book, “Team of Rivals.” I’m a little surprised that these two don’t mention her book. I would appreciate thoughtful comments on why they didn’t. Maybe that will become clearer as I continue my slow progress through the book with this discussion now also in mind.
I think these two scholars are aligned with a conservative Christian and Calvinistic worldview and also a politically conservative perspective . They see Lincoln through that lens. Whereas Ms. Goodwin, a great writer, does not share those two affinities.
I suppose that may be a very significant factor. However contrasting viewpoints make for some of the most interesting and clarifying comparisons.
These are truly leading intellectuals of the day. The guest started his intellectual pursuits at Philadelphia College of the Bible, now Cairn University Langhorne Manor, Pa.
You are both very handsome and very interesting and humorous 🧐😊💫 I’ve always been interested in the details of Abraham. Thank you !!
Two of my most impressive scholars!
My intellectual cup runneth over!
Read his book on Gettysburg. Great
I have enjoyed several of Dr. Guelzo's Great Courses - his profound depth of knowledge and dynamic storytelling are unrivaled (with the possible exception of the late great Rufus Fears). Delighted to see him here in the Hillsdale fold. Thank you for sharing this stimulating conversation.
wonderful. Thank you.
Thank you ✝️ 🛐.
Great discussion! Thanks are due both gentlemen for the interesting choice of subtopics and the wonderful flow of the conversation, based as much in their erudition and scholarly seriousness as in their delightful personal spontaneity. Our country needs as much of this kind of honest and well-informed historical perspective as we can get! And in that spirit, I'd like to add a modest, yet potentially important, detail to the part of the discussion occurring at about the half hour point. This is something that I noticed simply because of my interest in the biography of a famous Presbyterian Washington, D.C. pastor (though I am not a Presbyterian and do not reside in the D.C. area): What Dr. Guelzo says about Lincoln and religion is certainly correct, as far as I know. But it leaves out the fact that the President repeatedly attended services at the historic New York Avenue Presbyterian Church, located close to the White House, during the Civil War. The church history records that Lincoln actually "rented" a pew, which I believe remains in the church to this day. There is also a stained-glass window to Lincoln's memory on the north side of the sanctuary. Some sources even note that after the assassination Mary Lincoln sent Pastor Phineas Gurley one of Lincoln's tall hats, as a gesture of thanks for his support. Evidently, Pastor Gurley was actually a friend, and what you might call something of a "spiritual advisor," to Lincoln. Their closeness and shared trust is especially implied by the fact that Pastor Gurley officiated at Lincoln's funeral service at the White House, and also at the funeral of the Lincolns' son, Willie. I don't bring up this particular to be "nit-picky," but rather to take Professor Guelzo's comments on Lincoln's personal Christian ethos a little further, for its implications about Lincoln's character, including his personal religious mindset. In any case, once again, great program and many thanks!
Interesting "political economy" also true beauty in Lincoln's underestimation which he was. sharp witted enough to not show his hand.. Thank you
Great discussion. Opened my eyes to new to me thought... political economics for one.
Mr Stephen Sackur is also invited as that Endangered category of honorable journalists ( appreciated in uk and certainely abroad )
Lincoln addressed his ideas in his letter to Horace Greely. Anything to preserve the union. Anything!
Lincoln was the victor. And victors right the history....
Like the Soviets and Putin in Russia
Did a dead Lincoln write the history?
Professor Larry ad professor Guelzo coming to you more than one time to complain let me share also a good news with you especially as professor ( that former proffessor telling we like to hear also about our former studients leaving the campus 😅😅) my son is admitted in that competitive examination polytechnic ULB as a father i think that a best gift to have
knowing that as dreamer 2011 the Goal polytechnic in USA working hard more 70 hours per week to have those required means for anyway wishing the best to USA in the recovery as resilent country accrossing more bad weather than that
Great talk.
Enjoyed.
"How many legs does a dog have if you call his tail a leg? Four. Saying that a tail is a leg doesn't make it a leg."
President Abraham Lincoln
professors if you want to support me this is another argument A colleague coming to me once twice maybe three times Ahmed I am simply in the office (bureau ) I have never had the opportunity to visit the Berlaymont site in the final phase of renovation. I told her , come with me no fear of losing you in the site not only I am the responsible in charge of the The signalling lot but I know the whole project . Coming back she was more than delighted to encourage others to visit the project
Please continue
not only given 200.000 euros to the belgium administration not taxes ( more than 100.000 euros) but a gift two projects laureates simultaniousely 2009 ( equivalent 20 politzers prices)
Can anyone educate me as to what Mr. Guelzo's lapel pin represents?
Wondering the same thing.
People would despise Lincoln nowadays. A guy that believes the constitution/declaration mean what they say?! 😮
Have you read many of the comments here? The Lincoln Haters and Lost Causers-- but I repeat myself-- come out of the woodworks like cockroaches.
Allen's growing up story is a little too righteous to be ignored. He was 18 and went to seminary school... Does he also have a halo.... I can tell both these men grew up in good families.
not only a forced sale of my home at 50% COUNTER EXPERTISE FORBIDDEN GOD BLESS AMERICA THE CAUSE IS JUST
not only working simultaniousely with the best 3 audits in the world KPMG MDA & Ernest young not only also simultaniousely with the best contol lab in EU SGS Aib vinçotte & BRGM
succesful candidat dreamer 2011 but a month after destoyed in hospital more than 4 months
professors let me invite you to support me again an honrable man yesterday attending to the government counsel no more the president of the parlement and senat were theire no more all the EU Commissioners WERE theire a year or two years after The President of the High Judiciary given a speach in official reception at minder meter from me not only sharing cofffee with the chief staff of the President of the European Council not only a working meeting with more than one minister and an arbitration on projects in my favour by a minister of state but yesterday is yesterday The security of a large grocery store comes from contact and provocation (I had been in charge of a dozen professional security agents, securitas working including in European institutions). but golden drop is the golden drop where the book was written
Lincoln was correct early on about the race issues but had to couch his debate points to be electable. Highly intelligent, compassionate and on the race issue, moral. Question: How many of his cabinet members held the same race view and would carryout a moral policy if Lincoln would fall by the wayside? Answer: none would or did. Lincoln had to pick a Tennessee Democrat to win his election.
What happened to the forty acres and a mule, land or even a state for the freed blacks? It was nearly all carpetbagging opportunist Northerners who took over in the South after the war. There was little or no sentiment on behalf of the black race after the war.
700,000 plus deaths to keep the Union together and nothing for the blacks save for noble but idle pronouncements.
All this having been said, at minimum, the natural rights of every human was at least addressed.
Abraham Lincoln could have and should have left a document and an appointed leader of this largely forgotten moral push.
Lincoln's generals then soon handled the American Indians in a not dissimilar manner.
The big question: What if Lincoln had lived?
A black sovereign state or nation perhaps? It would have been a real fight for ole Abe and further war was not out of the question. Cotton profits were huge for Yankee, southerner, and Brit alike. Think Berkshire Hathaway's roots. Textiles forged the industrial revolution.
Lincoln waited until the wind blew before he set sail, that's why he had no plan for the post-war period. Based on his statements before the war and the way he handled the war, there is no way to predict his likely actions, as his statements were shaped to fit the moment.
pr Larry ARN (Armn) america's DNA as constitutionalist 😁 a question The president James Madison the writer 4 amendement summarizing not only the law but the justice all the justice he ahmed 😅aimed at Greatness of America in the birth of America is that correct ?????
professors you able to appreciate the qualities of students , i have been controller cost controller head of projects working with best audits in the world MDA ernest young KPMG working including in nuclear power station a father of thee children including polytechnician
working for common Good the counsel of school my children as member if you want to support me by writing calling that EU evicted
Lincoln was a wealthy corporate attorney for the railroads.
So what? He was succesful as a defense attorney in tort cases defending railroads. He also was a criminal defense attorney. Do you have an issue with that?
@@marchess286 He never defended me
@@johnl5316 - I wouldn't either
Answering my manager I don't build my success on corpses the truth all the truth i swear
I despise what Lincoln did to our republic. He fundamentally destroyed it.
now followed including by that auchan security the stazie like the chemistry analyze the cancer cells spinning with isotops 😚😚☺😘☺😚😚😚
I gave the neighbors a full adult bed 2+3 seater armchairs + full baby bed in very good condition
There's a bull fiddle behind his right shoulder. No bow near by. I suspect Blue Grass.
I’d rather listen to Thomas DiLorenzo anytime.
not only EU neighbour's son 12/13 looking to my son on bicycle haven't you a bicycle i asked him ? no i gived him immediately a bicycle this is hammouti the danger of EU security 😮💨😬😬🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭evicted in 6 days from brussel
KIRK: Name, Khan, as we know him today. (Spock changes the picture) Name, Khan Noonien Singh.
SPOCK: From 1992 through 1996, absolute ruler of more than a quarter of your world. From Asia through the Middle East.
MCCOY: The last of the tyrants to be overthrown.
SCOTT: I must confess, gentlemen. I've always held a sneaking admiration for this one.
KIRK: He was the best of the tyrants and the most dangerous. They were supermen, in a sense. Stronger, braver, certainly more ambitious, more daring.
SPOCK: Gentlemen, this romanticism about a ruthless dictator is
KIRK: Mister Spock, we humans have a streak of barbarism in us. Appalling, but there, nevertheless.
SCOTT: There were no massacres under his rule.
SPOCK: And as little freedom.
MCCOY: No wars until he was attacked.
SPOCK: Gentlemen.
KIRK: Mister Spock, you misunderstand us. We can be against him and admire him all at the same time.
SPOCK: Illogical
-Kahn- _Lincoln_
Bit off on the details but the gist of it fits rather well.😊
EPIC!!
6/26/2024 professor larry honorable man president Hilsdale college philosopher speaking about Abraham lincoln & christianity please please please be the waitness because more than a time since that eviction coming to me looking for provocations not only injured more than a dozen accidents trying to take me on sandwitsh they said 3 tucks ( face behind and on the left inviting to police station no reason given ( come we will tell you 3 persons susoectuous dead in police station a lawyer with me as waitness 950 euros 25 min mex the truth all the truth i swear
CivilWar had nothing to do with slavery.
professors tomorow if i'm alive i'll go to Brussel to see my son if he is alive, i invite you professors to peaceful debate a hardtaklk to explain to you my request because no word about my case not because not human right league or my case is complex no no easy including to a beginner that 2+3 =5 but maybe i don't merit justice
I can't respect anyone who thinks it's OK to suspend Habeaus Corpus...and yes I had to look up the spelling.
Article I, Section 9, Clause 2:
The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
Absolutely warranted given the circumstances. Take your lost cause bullshit and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine.
I cannot respect anyone that looks up "habeas corpus" and still spells it incorrectly.
professor Larry professor Guelzo, let me invite you again to support me, the professors like the students Assiduous, pragmatic and polite students this is my professor writing a book a best book a special reduced price for his students ( a rich professor no need to have buisness with his students so kind prof come with me The bookstore is in my car trunk the time he had spent talking to me more expensive than the price of the book😅😅😅😅😅 working with a director also professor leaving the firm i worked in the administration but whom is that man my ( former) director and professor what are you doing here Sir ? I ask myself the same question about you Mr hammouti what are you doing here ? I'm working here; come i have coffee in my bureau to give you explation what i'm doing here 😂😂😂😂😂😂
17th, 29 May 2024
professors no intention to occupy EU or elsewhere house 1 are and garden 1 are max the grave max 1 m^2 the earth doesn't belongs to us we belongs (we return) to the earth; But EU ASAP having the official documents to leave no time to loose
Video too long; did not watch! Please shorten and summarize the highlights!
professors let me also invite you to give contribution to defend my honor, i defended America including 2007 in that restaurant not only much much dollars theu told me not only in the school with a bag the best one a special bag many americain flag a dozen of tenageers proposing Auctions the price you want of tell your father to buy ones for us we pay the price you want the truth all the truth i swear
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This is a pretty parochial discussion for 14 minutes. That does not reflect well on Hillsdale College.
He was an occultist
My wife had fallen in the apartment a herniated disc not being able to move crying, I had carefully placed a blanket under her body to pull her to the bed meticulous transfer to bed I had placed even adult pumpers for her a few days she had resumed walking and running with me today i'm the danger of the continental security of europe evicted in 6 days from brussel Hammouti isn't EU name a official in Brussel not a vulgar tenageer
suite not criminal clean criminal record a father of three children including polytechnician myself candidat not only brothers wrights in one also candidat pilot and air traffic controller candidat working inclusing nuclear power station lab
History of anything is ALWAYS written by "the winner".
Lincoln ended slavery in the very worst way possible, war.
North and South were Siamese twins of each other, on this issue.
Lincoln saved the Union and completely destroyed the fundamental meanings of the "IXth" and "Xth" Amendments.
We are where we are now; started are Administrative provinces of a "foreign power", of imperialist in nature that was originally finally a neutral arbiter.
A deceiver
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