Are Thoughts Created Outside of the Mind or are They Personal?

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  • čas přidán 22. 05. 2021
  • A man asks if thoughts are randomly generated or personal in origin and if they create the world.
    This clip has been taken from Rupert's Weekend in Amsterdam in September 2019. You can watch the full video on the link below.
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Komentáře • 141

  • @bazhaines5299
    @bazhaines5299 Před 3 lety +71

    I sometimes think of thoughts as buses. They come to me and I decide whether to get on board. If it’s a bad thought-bus, I let it go by.

    • @mikem3779
      @mikem3779 Před 3 lety +10

      I prefer to think of them as passengers getting on or off the bus. We are the bus driver, but sometimes a thought will take the wheel.

    • @irenamagdalena6807
      @irenamagdalena6807 Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you, love it 😊 I will try to use it ❣️

    • @pti88
      @pti88 Před 3 lety +2

      What an analogy

    • @TheAmbamatamantrasvideos
      @TheAmbamatamantrasvideos Před 3 lety +2

      There is nothing to decide that’s just a thought and no one can choose thoughts. You yourself are a thought 🤔😁

    • @mikem3779
      @mikem3779 Před 3 lety +3

      @@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos and who or what is aware of that thought, that “you are just a thought?” “I am just a thought” is a thought that someone or something is aware of.

  • @JohnSmith41893
    @JohnSmith41893 Před 3 lety +27

    For those wondering if thoughts really happen -
    Thoughts happen, suffering happens, dreams happen but there is no special significance. Trying to attach significance to thoughts & impressions is akin to trying to decipher Gods love via weather patterns (ie "God must be mad because big volcano erupted!"). In reality thoughts & emotions happen spontaneously, like weather, with no special significance or personal importance. When the separate self ceases to be front & center, there is likewise no special significance given to its absence because there was truly never a separation, nor was there a need for a separate self! When the illusion of separation passes away, thoughts are still thought, feelings are still felt in the body but the mental process of placing them into a generated personal-historical context ceases to be necessary. Do thoughts happen? Yes, but if the phenomenon bothers you even when they have nothing to do with you personally, you may as well simply think happy thoughts. Do bad thoughts & feelings arise? Sure, just like good feelings arise, spontaneously. Both will pass like clouds across the Sky of limitless Self.

    • @nikesamo2025
      @nikesamo2025 Před 3 lety +9

      Thank you John Smith. King Lear needed to hear this ;-)

    • @TokyoDining
      @TokyoDining Před rokem +1

      @@nikesamo2025 Brilliant

  • @ArthurAndSons
    @ArthurAndSons Před 3 lety +27

    Thank you for changing my life. Much love from the Philippines 🇵🇭❤️

    • @jariswamee6370
      @jariswamee6370 Před 3 lety

      @@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices explain big bang

  • @horizon9538
    @horizon9538 Před 3 lety +14

    We are not our thoughts nor the subconscious conditioning. Misidentification with these deny us the ability to change them. Once we realize we are the pure consciousness of these, we can distance our identity from them and so we can change them. This knowledge is liberating. It also makes us compassionate towards others because we see the divine pure consciousness they are, not the conditioning they struggle with.

    • @cx777o
      @cx777o Před 3 lety

      Just a question: Do you have any advice on how to see the limits of mind more clearly and open oneself up to the non intellectual, more experiential realm?

    • @horizon9538
      @horizon9538 Před 3 lety +4

      @@cx777o My above comment is 1st stage, in which I am the awareness within the body mind and the universe appears real outside it.
      Seek happiness. Know your journey is unique; you don't have to be like anyone else. you have to sustain yourself and do your social duties but you don't have to be superior, inferior, or equal to anyone else.
      All successes and failures will come and go. The things you own and your achievements are for sustenance and temporary enjoyment. They will come and go. None of them define you.
      Develop problem solving skills to manage worldly life but don't get caught in who is superior to who drama. Superiority is only for a role in a particular context for practical considerations, not intrinsic to any person. You are not your role. You perform different roles.
      Your actions and even emotions have consequences. Face the consequences and let them guide you. Some strengths and weaknesses you were born with and some you acquired later. All weaknesses are modifiable, the effort proportional to how deep rooted they are. Judiciously assess what to work on and when.
      Finally, just like when walking you can't lift the foot your weight is on, you can't change the qualities you identify with.
      You got to distance your identity from them in order to seek help to change them. When you realize you are neither strengths nor weaknesses nor the stuff that come and go, you realize you are pure awareness of all that comes and goes.
      This is called the witness stage. Though just the 1st stage, it is liberating because it throws away a big chunk of useless baggage while living as a useful member of society.

    • @horizon9538
      @horizon9538 Před 3 lety +4

      @@cx777o In the 2nd stage, the universe I experience is not physical (except for practical purpose). It is sensory perception arising in awareness. What I used to consider an object is really what my limited senses are displaying and I mistook the display for the original. Hint: think of eye defects; we see different images of the same original.
      This stage is funny because I missed something so obvious.
      Understanding this is more like adopting the fixed sun and rotating earth paradigm. Sunrise and sunset phenomena are now seen as apparent and explained with a more powerful paradigm but continue to have practical utility.

    • @cx777o
      @cx777o Před 3 lety +1

      @@horizon9538 thanks a lot for your detailed explanation! This helped :)

    • @horizon9538
      @horizon9538 Před 3 lety

      @@cx777o Glad to help. Rupert teaches beyond these two stages.

  • @neosugarland7682
    @neosugarland7682 Před 3 lety +14

    There is truth to what the man in the audiance said. He said he was experiencing extreme thoughts and that he refuse to believe that these thought represent who he is. First and foremost thoughts comes from a few places. As mentioned on the video, we can think and create thoughts. Thoughts of love or thoughts of hate. Then, there is also thoughts that arises from our subconscious, thoughts that were programs from our culture, parents, enviroment that we were expose to or conditioned and the same can be said with our beliefs. Most are not aware, but we live in a ocean of thoughts. Some pass through our minds and others don't but pass through others. Thoughts are always passing and buying or auditioning for our our attention. And that is the key, our attention. So, if we let our thoughts just go by like leaves or paper boats passing in the river in front of us, then we know the leaves or paper boats is not us, for it is seperate, is it not ? So do not despair for we are not our thoughts unless we focus and create it ourselves in our mind. For the mind was made to think, create and recieve thoughts. The yogis knew this centuries ago. It's just when we were born, there was no manual that tells us how to exactly use our mind and why things like this occur. But the yogis do know how the mind works, coz that's what they do. We are all spirit or soul living in our bodies not bodies that has a living soul inside. This will be a hard pill to swallow for some people, but we are not our mind nor are we our body. Namaste, peace be with you.

    • @mushfikurrahmananik5831
      @mushfikurrahmananik5831 Před 3 lety

      This will be hard to swallow for some religious people that we are neither our body, neither our mind and neither SOUL.
      SHOW ME THE SOUL??

    • @neosugarland7682
      @neosugarland7682 Před 3 lety

      @@mushfikurrahmananik5831 Our soul is reflected in our personality. The Greek word for spirit is pneuma. It refers to the part of man that connects and communicates with God. Our spirit differs from our soul because our spirit is always pointed toward and exists exclusively for God, whereas our soul can be self-centered. Namaste

    • @RobbeyT1
      @RobbeyT1 Před 3 lety +3

      Bruce Lipton mentioned that Russian cosmonauts have a saying that when they are orbiting earth on the space station, the pencil is more intelligent than they are. They experience and inability to think much as though on some sort of drug, thinking comes back to normal when they return to earth. It's now believed that thoughts are external to the brain.

  • @markbusch5907
    @markbusch5907 Před 3 lety +22

    “Always have happy thoughts” brilliant! Haha

    • @paarkour83
      @paarkour83 Před 3 lety +1

      Lame af

    • @tuomaskauko5067
      @tuomaskauko5067 Před 3 lety +5

      I wonder why Rupert would say such a thing. To me, that seems just like a comforting illusion which will crumble shortly. For example - now try NOT to think about the number 2. Yeah, doesn't quite work like you'd want to.
      Perhaps he is just taking a shortcut into saying that there is value in consciously steering your thoughts into positivity rather than unconsciously wallowing in negativity?

    • @lisalawwill4843
      @lisalawwill4843 Před 3 lety +6

      @@tuomaskauko5067
      When he said 'only think positive thoughts' he was being sarcastic or facetious. He used it to illustrate the fact that we cannot control or choose our psychological thoughts. If we could we would all be happy and positive all the time.

    • @sallyarterton2702
      @sallyarterton2702 Před 2 lety +1

      @@lisalawwill4843 We can’t stop our negative thoughts but we can choose not to log into them or give them any attention. Just be the awareness that witness when they come 🙏

    • @lisalawwill4843
      @lisalawwill4843 Před 2 lety +3

      @@sallyarterton2702 there is no chooser. Thoughts arise. Actions happen. There is no ghost in the machine, no separate self, that is choosing among 1000s of options. The idea 'I am choosing' is another thought. Rupert talks about this. He talks about looking for the separate self, that would be the chooser, and not finding it. It's hard to grasp, but when it's seen it becomes obvious.

  • @sandycarter5300
    @sandycarter5300 Před 3 lety +18

    It is impossible that any thought is "personal" or personally generated, inasmuch as the brain (composed of atoms which are empty space) is not the source of consciousness or thought or of anything whatsoever.
    All thought, sensation, and perception is impersonal and arises from the one impersonal belief in objectivity. The thoughts feelings, etc., are "occurring" in universal/impersonal consciousness. The sense or experience is that they are personal, located, contained, owned; that there is an "owner" of them. How could that ever be the case when it is understood that all apparent matter is composed of atoms which are empty space? There is no "medium" of a body, mind, or self, to which thoughts "arrive". That is just the seeming, not the actuality. What feels personal, located, and contained, is actually impersonal. The personal does not exist except in belief. So it is all in universal or impersonal consciousness now. There is nowhere for thoughts, feelings, perceptions, sensations to "go". They don't "travel" to "persons", and they don't make persons. The one impersonal belief in objectivity generates data or programs, composed of impersonal unreal energy. It is the energy that arises from the belief in subject/object. The belief that "you've" "inherited" thoughts from your "culture", or been "conditioned" by your "parents", gives credence to the fiction of time and space, bodies, minds, individual intelligences, walled off consciousnesses. If every thought is not questioned or challenged, erroneous conclusions and false premises are unthinkingly accepted, making up a stew of mythological and illogical beliefs. It may not be convenient to question every thought if you want to allow the belief in a finite self to continue, but Truth is what is necessary for liberation. "Ye shall know the Truth and the truth shall set you free."

    • @jaic93
      @jaic93 Před 3 lety +1

      That's not bad at all 👍👏

    • @aisthpaoitht
      @aisthpaoitht Před rokem

      okay, but what is the conclusion? am i my thoughts or not?

    • @nikibotev5478
      @nikibotev5478 Před rokem

      No, thoughts are local, else will be mixed

  • @codybalicki
    @codybalicki Před 2 lety +7

    It’s amazing how things land differently as you begin to cleanse the conditioning of the mind. This came through super clear today 🔥🔥

  • @phoenixrising1675
    @phoenixrising1675 Před 8 měsíci

    Rupert is wearing the most exquisite shirt today... what a gorgeous color.... The brilliance of his teaching never cease to amaze me....

  • @shoonyah
    @shoonyah Před 3 lety +10

    This made me cry almost inconsolably. Happy thoughts are not easy to think and I refuse to marinate and wallow in misery so make a conscious effort to not expose myself to anything that puts the fire out from my belly. Those who you see happy make an effort to remain positive just like one gets up early morning and goes for a run or wakes up to meditate at 4am. It's a mind thing, a conscious effort. No one is born a happy ninja warrior. But still, esp nowadays, one increasingly finds oneself surrounded with low energy, even with bare minimum interaction. There is negativity all around no matter how hard one wants to avoid it. Even when one wants to remain contented the sheer nature of human interaction involves relativity. One cannot simply eject and or keep pumping life into people if they choose to remain deflated. It should not be our job to keep someone happy unless we are talking of dependant children learning life skills from us. Just like we wouldn't be expected to digest their meal or walk for them.
    It's the adults that are the hard lot to deal with, including and esp parents who haven't healed their inner child wounds. The worst thing one human can do is to project their fears, insecurities, guilt, and shame on to another. One needs a lot of awareness to not take on those energetic parcels and accept them as our own subconsciously. Does life get easier after enlightenment Rupert - however that works?

    • @zachbourque630
      @zachbourque630 Před 3 lety +14

      NiNa, I am touched by your post, and can relate to this struggle. There is some poetry in the legend of Buddha's awakening that says: "At this moment, all beings and I awaken together." In meditation, we transcend the mind, and discover ourselves as the knowing field of pure consciousness, and we stay there. When we are doing this, we are actually transcending all mind. Your mind, the mind of your neighbor, the minds of the good people on the news, and the minds that react to the news. Knowing this, I still fall into the struggle in the day-to-day, resisting the minds of others, not wanting to be affected by everyone's noise, and certainly the dysfunction of the world. But this problem is not due to their minds. This problem is due to the arising of the separate self in my own mind. Essentially, what I'm saying is keep at it, and take complete residence in the natural state of open, empty awareness. I think you will find the world bothers you less and less (because it is actually your own mind that does not have the power anymore to make you forget what you essentially are, which is the only reason you are ever upset!)

    • @TheAmbamatamantrasvideos
      @TheAmbamatamantrasvideos Před 3 lety +3

      @@zachbourque630 good! True! All in our own mind. Seeing problems somewhere is our projection. Maybe the other doesn’t experience it as you think they do.

    • @shoonyah
      @shoonyah Před 3 lety

      @@zachbourque630 Thankyou ! The world doesn't bother me as much as the restlessness that my dues are not being exhausted with it. What a complex web our minds create only to be perturbed by it and realize that it was all our doing. Joke, but not a funny one. Or may be one laughs after fully realizing the truth...who knows ! Im sure none of the enlightened ones are surfing CZcams.

  • @comanaut9566
    @comanaut9566 Před 3 lety +8

    That blue curtain is in desperate need of a good ironing.

  • @anonymous203020
    @anonymous203020 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Rupert sometimes drops these wisdom bombs while speaking in a neutral, unemotional tone of voice. But when you practice meditation for a while and commit to it then you start to realize the truth he’s saying and it’s life altering because you wake up to your freedom

  • @kfarestv
    @kfarestv Před 3 lety +4

    Thoughts are like breathing. You can conciously breathe, or you can unconciously breathe. Either way, you breathe.

    • @aisthpaoitht
      @aisthpaoitht Před rokem

      wow...but why is that so?

    • @kfarestv
      @kfarestv Před rokem

      @@aisthpaoitht Why does the clouds look like they do ?

  • @integralsun
    @integralsun Před 3 lety +2

    All mental activity is transitory. Sense the presence of that which is not changing and then go beyond the witness to the Supreme.

  • @franklinmarichal
    @franklinmarichal Před 2 lety

    I love you so much Rupert good job educating people on this subject it's really needed especially by me! ❤️💗

  • @vin44lopez
    @vin44lopez Před 3 lety +4

    The lady beside the questioning guy is transcending..bless her!

  • @elsaberhe9704
    @elsaberhe9704 Před 3 lety

    Great question from the handsome man with beard. I know Rupert sounded like saying it's as easy as thinking "#2, #3, #4 ..."; But he is saying once we commit to practice enough, they are as easy as remembering those numbers or as breathing. By all means, I am not there yet, just sharing because of how much joy I got from practicing, and I know you will too. God bless. Love you❤

  • @soularlight5696
    @soularlight5696 Před 3 lety +6

    I love what Rupert says, but he slightly missed the mark. The man asked if thoughts have an impact on the world, and they actually do. Depending on the thoughts we think, and what we feel to be true, we "attract" experiences that tend to match what we feel on the inside. Joe Dispenza's work is a great pointer, also Neville Goddard.
    This is something we have to test for ourselves.

    • @hempfu
      @hempfu Před 3 lety

      i don't feel he missed the mark : he refined the concept of experience and thoughts : thought originating from the separate self and becoming an interpretation of experience , practical thoughts , thoughts arising from awareness .

    • @hempfu
      @hempfu Před 3 lety

      @@Puuws nice insights Persis . The Sedona Method is very interesting .

    • @soularlight5696
      @soularlight5696 Před 3 lety +1

      You can control your thoughts, or you can easily and effortlessly choose thoughts that feel good to you when you think them. These thoughts align more and more with Love, Joy & FUN!
      It’s fun to guide thoughts and see them reflected. It’s fun to explore the relative and how it responds to your thinking & feeling.
      I Am Pure Being, Awareness, God, The Self already. Nothing can change that. Nothing.
      Playing with thoughts can be a fun way of expressing that. Thinking lovely thoughts can also be a part of the flow. It’s not separate.
      The mind is like a receiver for thoughts. I can choose (somehow) what channel my mind is tuned into. I am like a radio, the tuner and The Awareness of it. I Am One.

    • @terefefeyssa877
      @terefefeyssa877 Před 2 lety

      Solar Light: You are mixing different modalities together.
      The basis of Dispenza arises from the brain. He is deeply entrenched with the material model.
      It is not our thoughts that change the world.
      Thoughts change, world changes like any thing else.
      The undercurrent factor is consciousness behind all changes

    • @anweshaP14
      @anweshaP14 Před rokem

      Rupert is always very garbled. The comments here are more clear

  • @Brightandheavy
    @Brightandheavy Před 3 lety

    Thankyou Rupert Spira

  • @TheAgelessWisdomMysterySchool

    Researchers have generally settled on a distinction between deliberate "task-related thinking" (TRT) and the more passive "task-unrelated thinking" (TUT). The so-called TUTs are also known as intrusive thoughts or monkey mind.

  • @human5715
    @human5715 Před 3 lety +14

    0:49 but that in itself is just another thought, which itself isn't chosen. The desire to want to think about the number 2, which comes as a form of thought, he didn't choose the desire and the subsequent thought of wanting to think intentionally about the number. Kinda tricky but also becomes obvious after a while.

    • @pratikpatil6342
      @pratikpatil6342 Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah..

    • @momsazombie1
      @momsazombie1 Před 3 lety +3

      I wish Rupert had gone this way but he seems to dodge the actual question.

    • @TheAmbamatamantrasvideos
      @TheAmbamatamantrasvideos Před 3 lety

      @@momsazombie1 yes would be interesting but apparently he did not received the thought 😅

    • @kaylenes9986
      @kaylenes9986 Před 3 lety +1

      I see thoughts as clouds just passing by…but there’s no attachment to the thoughts. Just awareness of them.

    • @lisalawwill4843
      @lisalawwill4843 Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly. There is no thinker. There is no chooser. Therefore no thought is chosen. Who was the chooser of the thought to 'think of the number 2'?
      I too thought Rupert would go in that direction with the questioner.

  • @helio012
    @helio012 Před 3 lety +2

    A thought presupposes a thinker.
    A perception presupposes a perceiver.
    A path presupposes a beginning and an end.
    Past knowledge, memory, creates a supposition.
    To believe in a supposition creates presumption.

    • @arottie4097
      @arottie4097 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, thus the concept of time & space is born.

  • @bobsmart8302
    @bobsmart8302 Před 2 lety

    Thank you Master Rupert.

  • @Ymiraku
    @Ymiraku Před 3 lety

    Brilliant video

  • @leelanjoy
    @leelanjoy Před 3 lety

    good questioning perfect answering

  • @ivettea6358
    @ivettea6358 Před 3 lety

    Yes 🥰 life changing indeed!

  • @mansuralimirani4186
    @mansuralimirani4186 Před 3 lety

    Very good Thankyou thank you thank you so much

  • @Misslotusification
    @Misslotusification Před rokem

    3:13: On whose behalf? Drop the thoughts occurring on behalf of the separate self, and the ones that will remain will be the practical, the celebratory and the creative thoughts, as well as the ones about the truth.

  • @tattvavidya
    @tattvavidya Před 3 lety +1

    It could take a very very long time before the thoughts that arise out of the illusory seperate self stop arising, by just pure investigation and dropping the thought (if one developed the skill to do so). Having understood they arise from the illusory seperate self, it might be much easier to just accept those thoughts on the basis of the empirical reality and process them psychologically ( if inner child work is needed - do that) or based on understanding Ishvara as Order in the universe etc ....coming to peace with those thoughts. Then they would likely drop on their own and make room for wholeness to embrace the illusory I.

  • @anthonykology1728
    @anthonykology1728 Před rokem

    we are part of our environment

  • @joeanthony4459
    @joeanthony4459 Před 3 lety +1

    I appreciate Rupert's reasoning but I dare say it may be flawed, in this circumstance. Saying to someone "think of the number 2 " is not the same saying "Think only happy thoughts". You can say to someone "lift a cup" but you can't say to them "lift a bus" and expected it to happen. Thinking only happy thoughts requires that all unconscious negative thoughts be eliminated. This is not an easy feat. Also, I don't agree that thoughts do not create the world. Our personal thoughts, if they remain on the conscious level, do not create the world. But, if they sink into the collective unconscious they do have a say in creating the world we experience after they have been "Voted upon" and accepted by the collective. A baby's experiences originate from thoughts contained in the collective unconscious of that species. You can also hypnotize someone to have perceptual experiences by introducing thoughts into their mind. For example, you can make them have the experience of eating an apple when they're really eating an onion.

  • @chrysovalantiskamprogianni541

    Hi Rupert. Always glad to hear your talks. Have you ever researched the amazing similarities (there are differences also of course) between your ontology and that of Saint Maximus the Confessor regarding the Logos and logoi? Juxtapose this to atman and Brahman. It is , I believe, truly amazing how the ontology of India and Christianity meet

  • @gregariousguru
    @gregariousguru Před 3 lety

    Theoretical ideas, lying and deceiving, and acting or playing a part are all free thoughts you can create, aside from true fact or reality. We may not be able control all the random thoughts that enter our minds, but we have the ability to exercise that particular thought, ponder and contemplate on that thought, or we can push that thought aside and allow a new one to enter. At some level, whether it's minut or not, the human conscience has free will. Plus, you are always free to know your experience, regardless of the nature behind it.

  • @TheAmbamatamantrasvideos
    @TheAmbamatamantrasvideos Před 3 lety +5

    The questioner says ‘ I refuse to believe I’m a victim ‘ haha here’s
    another thought!.. relax there is no control and exactly that’s our freedom!😜😀😂

  • @lukestevenson6465
    @lukestevenson6465 Před 2 lety +1

    You can't just drop it, you can't do anything with it.
    People put all their energy in to it, that's why it is hurting them.
    If they don't do that it is not there. The problem isn't different to the thought, they are one and the same.
    It is autonomous, your not even doing it, the problem is people are curious they want to play with it, shape it and mould it then its Pandoras box.
    I tell people that this human organism is a miraculous creation, an expression of this very universe, and you really think it can't deal with your psychological and emotional problems.

    • @anweshaP14
      @anweshaP14 Před rokem

      Exactly he never said how to drop it. Just stop focusing on thought , focus on body focus on breath etc .

  • @skemsen
    @skemsen Před 3 lety +1

    I don’t feel like the question in the title was actually and clearly answered

  • @jtoneill17
    @jtoneill17 Před 3 lety

    '........I Must Not Think Bad Thoughts.'

  • @anthonykology1728
    @anthonykology1728 Před rokem

    seeing is not always believing...

  • @SabiazothPsyche
    @SabiazothPsyche Před 3 lety +4

    Thought(s) are solely instinctive, processed automatically by the cerebral organ. However, to "think" is entirely different, for that is a psychic activity, that manipulates the instinctive thoughts when need be.

  • @arishhussain5986
    @arishhussain5986 Před rokem

    How do we know if it arises to separate self or to awareness

  • @lisalawwill4843
    @lisalawwill4843 Před 3 lety

    There is no thinker. There is no chooser. Therefore no thought is chosen. Who was the chooser of the thought to 'think of the number 2'?
    Rupert talks about this in other videos. I wonder why he didn't talk about it here.

  • @dry509
    @dry509 Před 3 lety

    What is your understanding of the I, the Me? I’ve read these are a creation of thought and that there is something...reality, God, whatever you want to call it, that is not of thought? What are your assumptions, premises? Also the man asked if thought can affect what we perceive? Quantum physics claims that looking at something affects it?

  • @stevenmajic
    @stevenmajic Před 8 měsíci

    I believe he is being unrealisitc orr possibly delusional. How does one " choose " happy thoughts in a situation such as the loss of a spouse and 2 children in a car accident?
    Can he answer this question?

  • @pathiggins6513
    @pathiggins6513 Před 3 lety +1

    Is the questioner meaning the Law of Attraction,- we create our own reality?

    • @anweshaP14
      @anweshaP14 Před rokem

      Yes and Rupert has no clue about it .

  • @dr.susheelkhemariya8966

    Wahwah AhaAha wonderful Chamatkaric Vishmaypurna wonderful DhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad thanksgretitude dhanyabad dhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad Rupertspira wahwah AhaAha wonderful

    • @preetimaheshwari1329
      @preetimaheshwari1329 Před rokem

      Hi all, we are requesting Rupert’s team to consider arranging Retreats in India so that all interested participants who wish to attend in person retreats from the Indian region can attend.
      In this regard, I have sent email to Mr Neil to register the name in the attendees list for Rupert’s proposal of doing retreats in India.
      Hope this information may be useful for all the members in the group who wish to attend in person retreats in India. Thank you 🙏At the moment, It is only a request to Rupert’s team. Hope they will consider and may arrange in future.

  • @at-last
    @at-last Před 2 lety +1

    3:10

  • @greatescape7735
    @greatescape7735 Před 2 lety +1

    Does a Dog not have thoughts? I'm certain they do?

  • @Fan4club
    @Fan4club Před 3 lety +1

    Thoughts fade anyway - just notice it going hehehe - if you want good thoughts read great people... like Thoreau, Carlyle, MLK and Emerson.

  • @casper1240
    @casper1240 Před 3 lety

    Is the lady on the left asleep or happy ?

  • @sumanjoshi7902
    @sumanjoshi7902 Před 2 lety

    On whose behalf this thought arises.

  • @seeithappen1
    @seeithappen1 Před 3 lety +2

    So ... has the question been clearly answered - or are we in the next new age guru channel ?

    • @skemsen
      @skemsen Před 3 lety +1

      I don’t feel like the question was answered

    • @anweshaP14
      @anweshaP14 Před rokem +2

      Rupert never answers anything just makes it unnecessarily complicated .

    • @seeithappen1
      @seeithappen1 Před rokem +1

      @@anweshaP14 Its called a talking head preaching in the church of youtube .....

  • @mikebell4435
    @mikebell4435 Před 3 lety

    I thought that All thoughts came from our separate self or is Rupert saying that some thoughts come from our true self?

    • @JohnSmith41893
      @JohnSmith41893 Před 3 lety +3

      Whats being pointed to is that thoughts occur like weather, and are passing by like clouds. The clouds will continue to pass and should not be mistaken for the sky itself. The "True Self" is not limited to your body or its apparent perceptions, thoughts, feelings, etc. Once the body is let to function without the constant projection of mental importance or "circumstance" (generated by the apparent separate self) a sense of calm easiness is felt. In essence, there are no separate thoughts because there is no separate Self. All thoughts and impressions are fragments being generated environmentally like dust devils, like small clouds forming into larger groups. The sky includes the clouds and all weather but is in no way limited or defined by it. The clouds pass by (illusory, apparent separate-self), the Sky (Self) remains.

    • @emendatus1
      @emendatus1 Před 3 lety +1

      Thoughts are waves in the ocean. Waves in the ocean of awareness. But you can experience them as a true self or as an illusioury self. Rupert wants to say that dont follow thoughts while you are in the form of an illusioury self. Return to your self then do something. Dont do anything while in a sleeping state. It is like dont walk in the street while wearing glasses with a filter which passes only red light. Take out the glasses then walk confidently.

  • @lisamitchell3116
    @lisamitchell3116 Před 2 lety

    Where are the flowers?

  • @rahulshekhar3961
    @rahulshekhar3961 Před 3 lety +2

    What was the answer... Do they come from outside?

    • @mikefoster5277
      @mikefoster5277 Před 3 lety +1

      The original question [as per the video's title] seems to assume that we already know what 'the mind' is. But do we? And if we don't know what the mind is, then the question itself becomes somewhat pointless, does it not?

    • @wilma8326
      @wilma8326 Před 3 lety +2

      There is no outside since the separate mind that seems to be on the inside is an illusion. Thoughts just arise in consciousness. Some (most?) thoughts are residues of our conditioning, they are not 'ours'.
      It's not about where they come from or why they come. The question should be, on whose behalve does this thought arise. If it arises on behalf of the separate self there's no need to engage in it. No need to fight it, just drop it. It might take a lot of dropping, though, for some thoughts to subside

    • @sandycarter5300
      @sandycarter5300 Před 3 lety +2

      I don't think there was a clear answer. There isn't an inside or outside. All energetic data is in impersonal or universal consciousness. It doesn't travel to "individuals". There aren't any. The one impersonal belief in objectivity gives rise to countless bits of data and posits countless imaginary knowers/perceivers, but this is all going on in impersonal imagination, in universal consciousness. Nothing is actually ever personal. It just feels personal, located, contained, owned. How could that ever actually be the case, when we know that the atom is empty space?! Where a body appears, where any seeming matter appears, it is made of atoms/empty space. That there is a "medium" is a myth, a delusion. There is only one consciousness, now and forever. Unfortunately, consciousness is suffering from the illusion that it is countless knowers; that there are countless lives, and countless experiencers. The brain, composed of atoms, does not, ever, give rise to consciousness or intelligence or life. That is beyond preposterous.

    • @spaceforthesoul6286
      @spaceforthesoul6286 Před 3 lety +2

      Check if it on behalveof the illusary seperate self is or not. In case it is, drop it. Creative thought will stay. Hard feelings will deminish this way.

    • @mikefoster5277
      @mikefoster5277 Před 3 lety +1

      @@sandycarter5300 But maybe 'consciousness' itself isn't really suffering from the illusion? Perhaps the 'suffering' part only occurs on a certain level of reality (a certain level of itself, if you like). So once the idea of a separate personal self is already established, _then_ the (illusory and personal) suffering manifests. But on a more absolute level at least, the universal consciousness itself might not be suffering at all?

  • @OrdinaryPersonah
    @OrdinaryPersonah Před 2 měsíci

    Interpretation is all there is, we have no way of knowing the objective reality

  • @rainbowofboxes8021
    @rainbowofboxes8021 Před 3 lety

    there is nothing outside The Mind

  • @jameswaterhouse-brown6646

    So I can or I can’t manifest a winning lottery ticket?
    I think that was the question.

  • @gardeniabee
    @gardeniabee Před 3 lety +1

    I want more clarity on this. Is Rupert saying our thoughts and our collective consciousness do not create reality(our experience) - - rather thoughts create our “perception” of reality (our experience?)

    • @zionven
      @zionven Před 3 lety

      collective consciousness can be used to interpret the future events, like u have skill and some experience on some topic/object u can repeat the same, but it happens in "now", which u watch thru perception.

    • @dragicakelly
      @dragicakelly Před 3 lety +3

      We all experience perception (including babies and animals), then thoughs may come after to "interpret" the already experienced perception.

    • @theindigopickle
      @theindigopickle Před 3 lety +5

      He is saying that experience is perception. That is the truth. Thought then interprets experience/perception/truth and that interpretation "creates" (is) the interpreted world (what most people refer to as their mind). This world typically revolves around a central character, aka your representation (image of yourself) in this interpreted/thought/imaginary world. And all of that is fine. The problem arises when we confuse the situation and superimpose the thought world (including this supposed central character) and believe that the thought/imaginary/interpreted world is real and true, and not the actual experience/perception (which is actually true). His suggestion is to focus on the central character, investigate this supposed person, on whose behalf so many (oh so important) thoughts arise. When you do, and you find no one actually there, just an imaginary character with no actual substance or reality to it, then naturally, typically gradually, the thoughts around this character tend to subside.

    • @sandycarter5300
      @sandycarter5300 Před 3 lety +1

      There is no objective reality that "we" interpret subjectively. The one impersonal belief in objectivity gives rise to countless bits of data, and also claims countless imaginary reference points or subjects supposed to be the knowers or perceivers. The impersonal belief in subject/object instantaneously gives rise to what is commonly called universal consciousness, the "storehouse" for all of this fictional data. The experience is that thoughts, feelings, sensations, perceptions, are personal, located, contained, owned. This is not actually the case. They never leave this impersonal false sense of consciousness and "go" anywhere. Where would they go? They don't travel to individual minds or bodies. The atom is empty space. This is a forever fact that does not change to its opposite. So there is the experience or sense that things are personal, individual, owned, and located, but this can be recognized to be a logical impossibility. All of the data is energetic. It is all energy, the false energy generated from the one belief in subject/object.
      Reality is described by "nde"- ers. It is omnipresent, infinite indivisible, divine Love/Intelligence. That is the true substance of what seem to be things. There is no material realm, except in belief, and that is nowhere!

    • @nikesamo2025
      @nikesamo2025 Před 3 lety +2

      The separate self is the thinker. As there is no separate self, there is no thinker. Thoughts are objects and therefore part of the Illusion.

  • @DrMarkWaller
    @DrMarkWaller Před 3 lety +1

    The voice in your head that sounds like you talking to you is a thought. But it is not you.

  • @user-ee2wh3ks6y
    @user-ee2wh3ks6y Před 3 lety

    A Ri Ga To U-Go Za I Ma Su💓🗾🌬️🎈✨✨🗺️✨✨✨

  • @evaldochavesoficial446

    Rupert Spira isn't Enlightned.
    He can be awake.
    Enlightnment itself, isn't like he explains. There is a lot of EGO, in his story.
    Enlightnment is pure SELF.
    Even when one is in process of Enlightnment, who control, who guide such process is the SELF.

    • @jogib.9596
      @jogib.9596 Před 2 lety +1

      Nice thoughts. On who's behalf do they arise? ;-)

  • @v.k.4138
    @v.k.4138 Před 3 lety

    Hey copy man 😭

  • @kristi1189
    @kristi1189 Před 3 lety

    There’s no objective world.