Classic or Not? DAMN, Flower Boy, Culture & More
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- Classic or Not? DAMN, Flower Boy, Culture & More. For this new series we’ll be debating if a specific set of rap albums are classics or not. In this video we included albums turning 5 years old in 2022 such as Kendrick Lamar’s DAMN, Jay-Z’s 4:44, Migos’ Culture & more. Which of these 2017 albums do you think are classics?
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i feel as if CMIYGL is an album that will age extremely well.
Same with Donda
I feel like it already is
As well as Whole lotta red
@@ikmco.7234 wlr will inspire a generation of new rappers imo
@@DaRealEarth1 history will try to make it look that way as if better versions of that arnt already popular in the underground
2017 was a great year for rap! Was tough to decide if these were classics or not… hope you guys enjoy!
It was the best year for sound cloud rappers🤣
great vid and I 100% agree that without warning is a classic
2017-2019 is an underrated era of rap in general. Everybody talks about 2016.
@@InnanetSlatt was flooded with soundcloud generic trap, that's the issue with me personally
Appreciate you!
Damn, DAMN. Is 5 years old? Feels like it came out yesterday, 2017 is a legendary year for hip-hop in my eyes
You should do this for each year, make it a series
Of course we definitely plan to keep building this series out for as long as you guys enjoy it🙏
that would be dope!
I LOVE 4:44. It’s one of the most mature hip hop albums of all time, it’s a fantastic and vulnerable project for Jay to add to his career. This album is very special to me. The fact that he also helped out with the production is a really cool aspect too.
I would argue for the community Die Lit is more of a classic than Carti’s self titled. Upon it’s release it didn’t get huge reception but years later that’s the project that got people hyped for WLR in the first place and people loved his sound
Die lit is by far cartis best project, and i agree, but s/t is in the video because the theme is 2017 projects
I think carti is kinda goofy sometimes but die lit is a great project
I still think I prefer Self Titled but I agree
Am I tripping if I say that More Life is my favorite Drake "album" after Nothing Was the Same? I'm not joking, I loved the versatility and almost all hip-hop tracks on here.
I enjoy it as well!
Underrated and overhated imo. Had some brilliant tracks like Passionfruit, Do Not Disturb and Sacrifices
This is a very respectable take… I’ve loved More Life for years and it’s aged like wine
You’re not tripping at all. It’s my favourite as well. It’s not a better album than say Take Care, NWTS or IYRTITL, but to me I just feel so good and happy, I have never felt as happy listening to an album as I do with More Life, it’s such a good vibe.
You tripping
I always comment on your videos before I finish them because the topics y’all choose just always spark something in me alone. But mannn I’m 26 now and looking back at 2017 as a whole, I consider that to be the last year as a certain chapter in my life. With that being said, most of these albums can bring me back to those times, the good and the bad, and it’s just super nostalgic for me and I love it. You guys stay killing it. I look forward to your content every week. 🙏🏼🔥
We can definitely relate to how nostalgic 2017 feels like as a year… new chapters in life are exciting🙏 thank you for consistently pulling up and showing us love Lane
It was my second year in highschool definitely brings back some memories
crazy that no one in the comments is talking about 4:44!! this album was the best album in 2017 (respectfully bc of DAMN.) but the consistency of Hov on this album was phenomenal and the No I.D. production was Jay’s best production on any album.
DAMN presents a balance between conceptual direction and mainstream appeal. Even IB ( this international school curriculum) put it in the poetry category for English Literature so it can be taught in school. I graduated high school by then so I didn't get a chance to study it hahaha
If we’re talking 2017 classics I think the SATURATION trilogy by BROCKHAMPTON need to be in that conversation. I definitely think Without Warning deserves classic status, it’s still talked about as one of the best trap albums ever, it didn’t innovate but it refined everything to perfection.
Classics are so hard to determine for me… a definition of Classic for me are projects like 2014 FHD or GKMC… it makes it super hard to determine when an album is a Classic because the bar is set so high. I think there are 3 Albums in this video that are classics, DAMN, 4:44, Culture. But I would say those are mid to lower end classics.
What’s up Connor! I absolutely love this take and strongly agree that the classics on this list are middle-lower tier classics… favorite album from 2017?
@@NFRPodcast that’s tough… I would have to say DAMN
Flower boy too
Flower Boy is definitely a classic. that album still has the most casual listeners talking about Tyler's evolution as an artist throughout his discography, who else do you see that with?
coming back to this 2 years later its still aging gracefully
@@nevohyams over the past year I’ve really got into Tyler’s music and now I love it.
Literally don’t see how people cannot see how DAMN is a classic. It fits every box. Literally every box to be a classic. Insanely commercially successful, critically acclaimed, won a Pulitzer Prize, huge singles, deep concept and lyrics, iconic music videos, made a huge impact, huge tour around the album.
It’s a guaranteed classic. Anyone saying otherwise is lying.
DAMN is a disappointment compared to his previous 2 albums.
@@thebadguytemp23 no shot. Has some of his best songs. Definitely slightly worse than the other 2 as a whole but i dont see how you can get an album like that and call it a disappointment
It sounds like so many other albums out there, no other albums sound like Good Kid M.a.a.d City or To Pimp a butterfly. It depends on your definition of a classic, but for me, I wouldn't consider it a classic. Out of the things on the list, only Flowerboy is a classic, so I have a very tough standard for a Classic.
its mediocre at best
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Crazy how time flies and listening to some of these projects brings back memories
Classics are hard to define these days because everyone has different categories for what determines a classic but I would love to see another video like this for a different calendar year (2013, 2015, 2016, 2018 etc.) and for different artists like Kanye, Eminem, Drake, Kendrick and J. Cole
another solid video!
These long videos are so entertaining to watch🔥
Flower boy and DAMN are the two best from that year straight classics
awesome video, I added a lot of albums to my "must listen" list because of this, thank you.
Listen to Man on the Moon 1 you’ll never regret it
@@jsuxucjdmdkc2801 I have listened to it. And you’re right. I have not regretted it
Glad we can put you on🙏
Just wanna say I been at work and been listening to y’all for hours. Great content, y’all got the subscribe from me. 😂
Better know NFR videos never miss because there all classics
Another day another Classic Daniel comment😎
Y’all should totally do the same for 2018! The scale of hip hop that year was just MASSIVE. Kamikaze, Carter V, Scorpion… man. Also keep killing it y’all 🤙🏽in love with your extensive vocabulary.
2018 would be a great year to do this for🙏 thank you for the love Joel!
Damn and Flower Boy are definitely classics. I still go to these albums every now and then. Also these albums are saved on my Apple Watch in case my phone would die. 💛
Great video idea! Would love to see a 2016 collective
I think ant is right when he says sometimes you just know something is going to be a classic. The first time i listened to blonde i knew it was going to be a classic.
Instant classics are rare!
If yall did this for 2015 there would be so much options but a few good ones would be:
TPAB (obviously)
Rodeo
GO:OD AM
Barter 6
At Long Last A$AP
If You're Reading This..
IDLSIDGO
Currents
Beauty Behind The Madness
Testuo & Youth
WATTBA
The Incredible True Story
B4.DA.$$
Maybe even TRAP SOUL?
Trapsoul is definitely a classic
At long last asap is for me one of the best hip hop Productions of all time
Also IYRTITL and Dark Sky Paradise
2015 would be a good year to do it for🙏
wow i never realised how great 2017 was for rap, not to mention projects from other genres like Ctrl and Saturation II.
Amazing year
Can’t believe “17” by X wasn’t in this conversation. I don’t love it personally but it’s undeniably a very important album from 2017
ideas for the next episode
Joey Bada$$ - 1999
Freddie Gibbs - Bandana
Young Thug - JEFFERY
Drake, Future - What A Time To Be Alive
KIDS SEE GHOSTS - KIDS SEE GHOSTS
Earl Sweatshirt - Some Rap Songs
A$AP Rocky - AT.LONG.LAST.A$AP
J. Cole - KOD
Isaiah Rashad - The Sun's Tirade
Tyler, The Creator - Igor
Why is Big K.R.I.T.'s "4Eva is a Mighty Long Time" never mentioned in these conversations? It's my fav from 2017 besides "DAMN.", imo one of the best double albums in hip hop history with zero skips and also K.R.I.T.'s best work.
4:44 one of like 3 albums that I still listen to cover to cover and still enjoy it today.
self titled, without warning, LUV is rage 2, culture, flower boy, damn, all had massive cultural impact and i or my friends all listen to these songs still
luv is rage 2 is definitely a classic, top 3 emo rap album
Favorite 2017 album?
@@NFRPodcast at the time it was culture then WW. nowadays self titled is my favorite
Waking up and listening to T shirt on my way to school life was good man
You missed AABA by Joey, 4EIMLT by KRIT, No Dope on Sundays by Cyhi... 2017 was definitely a great year for rap
Classics by year should be a playlist !!
I agree with your take on More Life. Too all over the place...even though had a lot of good songs.
I like how guys have the albums listed on the left side
I agree about the fact we need some time (like half a decade at least) to define an album classic. But, you know certain albums will become classics right after you heard them for the first time. Like, for example, you knew GKMC was going to be a classic right after the first listen. That said, yeah, most of the album need time because they might sound dope but get old
What’s the most recent instant classic we got in your opinion?
@@NFRPodcast I think 2014 FHD or maybe TPAB
More life is amazing!! As time passes it gets better and better. Very underrated
IMO I have only 6 new classics (because of my 5 year rule), Damn, 4:44, 4eva is a mighty long time, culture, Playboi Carti, and Flower Boy. Big fish theory, luv is rage 2 and without warning come close but can’t give it that status.
Looking for album recommendations. I’ve listened to a shit ton of albums and I’m looking to expand my music library so lmk what your favorite albums are
Culture is a Classic for sure
Only Classic on this list?
Luv is rage 2 is definitely a classic in my opinion
yep
Best Uzi project?
4eva is a Mighty Long Time is definitely a classic
Couldn’t include everything but that album is amazing!
definitely need to do 2016
Flower Boy is an absolute classic. That album sky rocketed Tyler's career beyond the fanbase he already had from the Odd Future days.
I wish they would’ve talked about the saturations
I’m really glad these hosts aren’t the typa people who think only lyrical shit can be classics 👏🏽
best podcast out rn
Thank you🙏
A narrative on an album is great, but I don't think it's necessary. Music is music, primarily it's supposed to sound good and if you can put together a playlist with individually great songs, I think you've succeeded. That's why More life is arguably my favourite Drake project, at least top 3 for me personally
Damn shouldn’t even be debated about being a classic. It’s one of the best hip hop albums ever.
YES
DAMN > GKMC
@ ME
@@tomforkan7825 just wrong innit
Damn is not a classic
@@theweekndxo7438 nah bro gkmc so good but damn edges it
The concept is harder to grasp
@@bigharnib4725 damn is a classic bro
You just don't understand it properly
That's okay
DAMN, Flower Boy and Culture I are all certified classics, my hot take would be The Never Story is also a classic.
I personally believe Luv is rage 2 is a classic, I think it shaped what the underground is today, along with carti and a handful of others coming up in 2016 I feel had an impact on the underground artist we have today.
definitely do other years, love this idea
Can we get a playlist of y’all’s best or favorite songs for suggestions
Do you guys have any videos covering Barter6? It seems to me it’s never mentioned but deserves some coverage along with thuggers story.
I commented this at the start of the video like a BOZO
X’s debut album “17” is a classic. Fuck Love is one of the biggest streaming songs ever. Jocelyn Flores is one of the best emo rap songs ever. No skips in the track list. Influenced future artists and projects in the emo rap/acoustic hip-hop lane.
Can we can a update on all smiles album, still have heard nothing ….
the poll was trippin bout culture. its nowhere near the best but its the most classic out of all these picks
This video is definitely a classic.Do 2016 next
Appreciate you Colin! 2016 had a lot of great albums drop too!
only classics i'd say is DAMN., Culture, Flower Boy, and 4: 44
and i agree with you lot, nice
Bro I can’t understand why some ppl say DAMN isn’t a classic. So many layers to it….
@NFR Podcast
Is Beethoven’s 5th Symphony a classic?
I know it’s not only JID but Revenge of the dreamers 3 is a classic
7:50 😭😭
could you guys please make merch
Won't call them Classics but they were all great albums
Say what you will, but LIR2 is a classic. XOTOUIFE, 20 minutes, neon guts, sauce it up, way life goes, dark queen, how to talk, I mean there’s like 1 skip.
fr i’m tired of ppl not giving LIR2 its flowers
Teenage fever, passion fruit and do not disturb alone make more life a classic let alone all the other great songs
Self titled by carti is a definite classic…I remember it came out same days as damn and i listened to self titled first day
You guys should do this for 2016 albums
Also, very excited for 2018... that will be next year, I guess?
Swimming
Kids See Ghosts
Astroworld
Die Lit
Avantdale Bowling Club
Veteran
Some Rap Songs
TA13OO
DiCaprio 2
@@deanjohnston1460 someone else actually knows Avantdale Bowling Club exists let’s gooooooo
@@anthonydimuzio3883 they do exist! But much respect
👀
@@anthonydimuzio3883 it’s a borderline perfect album, and the NFR guys would definitely love it too! I’m not sure if they’re aware though?
More Life definitely isn't wtf
No but it’s a really good project and very slept on tbh
Yes this wasn’t a list of our favorite 2017 albums, just the ones we feel like get the most discussion and are recognized for defining that year!
I kinda sucked my teeth a little bit as a Kendrick nerd when Lu said Cornrow Kenny instead of Kung Fu Kenny😂
You need to do 2013! So many dope albums that year and my persoanl favorite year in hip-hop
Long Live ASAP
Yeezus
Nothing Was the Same
because the internet
My Name is My Name
Summer Knights
Run the Jewels
Acid Rap
Trap Lord
Can you do 2012?
4:44: Fantastic album, but in the realm of Jay's discography idk if it's a classic. My personal favorite of his though.
Damn.: My least favorite Kendrick album BUT it's definitely a classic from a cultural perspective. The massive singles, the album rollouts, the performances he had from this album.
Flower Boy: Absolutely. It was Tyler reaching the potential that he showed flashes of for years.
More Life: No. Had some classic songs on it like Passion Fruit, but not a classic project.
4:44 is definitely a classic
Favorite song?
Classics 2017
Big KRIT 4EIAMLT
Jay-Z 444
Tyler The Creator Flower Boy
Rittz Last Call
Open Mike Eagle Brick Body Kids Still Daydream
Rhapsody Laila Wisdom
Laila’s Wisdom is incredible
4:44 a Classic No Doubt
Do y’all think shoot for the stars aim for the moon would be a classic?
Lets be honest Kendrick really won that Pulitzer from TPAB carry over
Classic gets throw around so much these days, the waters seem to get muddied. In all honesty I think a classic no matter how acclaimed and respected an album is; comes from impact and global resonance
Facts there isn’t really a “classic” in this class tbh. A lot of really good projects, but nothing that’s high tier
'uk flows on kmt' the only thing uk about that song is giggs. that flow was straight from look at me
No 4eva Is A Mighty Long Time or Saturation II?
Couldn’t include everything but those albums are all great!
Classics:
4:44
Saturation Trilogy
4eva is a Mighty Long Time
Flower Boy
DAMN.
Culture 1
*Cult Classics:
Big Fish Theory
Do you really think 4eva has enough ears on it to hold that status?
@@NFRPodcast +-
luv is rage 2 is a classic
This should be good👀
Hope you enjoyed🙏
My album ❤️❤️
W on gizzy gobbler
4:44- CLASSIC,
NOT EVEN A CONVERSATION BRUH...EVEN QUESTIONING THAT IS LIKE BLASPHEMY
K.DOT - DAMN - CLASSIC
TYLER - FLOWER BOY - CLASSIC
MIGOS - CULTURE- CLASSIC
DRAKE - MORE LIFE - CLASSIC conceptually, it sparked the single era where artist make an album like playlist rather than a beginning, middle, and end
UZI - DOPE, not classic
21 - WITHOUT WARNING- Forever influenced flow patterns stylistically
J.I.D.- ANDERSON PAAK & SMINO are a lot better for the Neo-soul/Funk
PLAYBOICARTI- SOLID, not classic
VINCE STAPLES - BIG FISH THEORY - SOLID, BEAUTIFUL, EXPERIMENTAL, not classic, yet.
VINCE STAPLES BY VINCE STAPLES IS MY FAVORITE ALBUM BY HIM, BY FAR; flawless
More life isn’t a an album but 4:44 & damn could be argued a classic
It's a mixtape
@@mandem2362 it’s a playlist
I disagree hard with The Never Story and Without Warning. Both great albums and definitely classics
I think 4:44 is setting the standard for "Dad Rap" and will be a point that many other artists look to in older age. 3k asked what we want him to rap aboht nowadays, why not take some inspiration from Jay and give some generational advice through a medium that the youth apreciate you for?
I feel like my turn by lil baby will be viewed as classic too. In a couple of years
Yeah for Lil Baby standards.
Damn is definitely a Classic like Illmatic
Do you think tha carter III is a classic?
3 out of 10 classics for me.
Which ones?
4:44 classic
Damn is easily a classic I also think flower boy is a classic not as easy as damn though
Best song off DAMN?
@@NFRPodcast such a hard question but I’m the end I’ll prolly have to go wit duckworth
Without Warning > Culture easilyyyy. only thing I disagree with but otherwise, another NFR classic
I personally prefer Without Warning but the impact of Culture is undeniable!
Do 2018 albums classic or not!
This would be interesting!
DiCaprio 2 is a classic for me that album is not just off deez its way more then that