4020 John Deere was the best tractor they made (for the time) owning a genuine Waterloo John Deere is better then having a bank account. They always go up in value.
Totally agree with Drew Tibert, if the 3020 still has original factory paint I would leave as is. Would be worth far more to the collector when you would be willing to part ways with it. Both tractors look in great shape. Thanks for the walk around video, a superb set up for snow removal, the 4020 would be a lot more comfortable with the enclosed cab.
Two absolutely beautiful tractors! Cool to hear the explanations of the modifications you accomplished. The pointer stick was the cherry on the cake for awesomeness. Nicely done all around.
Thank you for the thoughtful and thorough explanation of the unit. I feel inspired to construct my own version. I like the idea of looking ahead when altering the vast, snowy landscape
Thanks for watching. I wish you the best of luck in building something similar that will work satisfactorily when the countryside is a white wonder-land!!
I would not restore that 3020 it looks too good to be repainted I would mechanically restore it but not painted unless it has been repainted already once before in it's life
Restoring the 3020 would decimate it's value. I would pay top dollar for original but wouldn't even make an offer on a restore. The conversion show's talent.
Excellent craftsmanship, leave to a farmer, good all around common sense, i grew up on a dairy farm and helped the neighbors haul grain in with a 4020, i always liked it, was not real big, but always had plenty of power, & smooth, im a union pipefitter & exray pipe welder now tig mig & stick, i acknowledged yr ingenious skills on yr project, very nice...
Wow, you got some nice collections there! *Tips:* My Dad use WD-40 in the Chains on our Snow Blower to keep the snow from forming and keep the snow pilling / clogging up. Each time he goes out to Blow Snow, he would use WD-40 in the Chains. He turn on the Tractor while warming up, he then spray the Chains while it's still dry. It works and it keep the snow from forming on it. Remember, you have to do this every-time you Blow Snow and this would help Ice / Snow forming on the Chains!
I have a 1965 2020 and have been blowing snow with it for 40 years. I have been thinking of adding a gearbox onto the rear power takeoff to direct the drive shaft towards the front so I could mount the blower up front, and save myself from getting a stiff neck. After watching this, I just might get around to doing it.
Great job on adapting the blower to a front mounted unit!! I'm sure it works great. Would love to see a video of it in operation if you get some snow!!
Hi Tom: Thanks for taking the time to view this video, I actually made a video of it in operation taken only moments after this video was shot. (Technical difficulties did not allow me to splice both of them together). It can be seen at the website address located directly below this video.
@@DeereDon Perfect. I just watched it. Great video and a great day to clear snow- no wind!! Thanks for getting back with me. Hope your 3020 restoration is coming along. Cheers.
Good evening Don: If you look at my website and find the video entitled --------"Solution for Saskatchewan Spring Snow Storm" --------you should be able to watch this unit in operation. I had a slight technical difficulty putting both of these video's together into one, therefore they had to be split. Thanks for your comments.
That is a good story about the John Deere and the 1966 3020 sitting in the shed and then 1972 4020 with snow blower in Canada. But the video should've been a little longer to watch the 1972 4020 John Deere tractor blowing snow with modifications to the snow blower. After all you showed there was snow to move.
Dear Sir: I had a small technical difficulty making one video showing everything, I had no choice but to split them, but if you look at the top of the comment section you will note that there is a website where you can see this unit in operation. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Damn buddy I thought the 3020 was restored. nice looking tractor to be retired and sitting to the side you took really good care of it. The good thing about it. Is you won't have to work to hard to restore it. I'm partial to the 4020. Have a great day. And week.
That's a very nice setup, Don. Happy to see how it all goes together. I was wondering how the PTO shaft was run underneath the front axle. Looks like you're using two pillow blocks between the U joints. Now you've got me wondering if anyone has fashioned a 3PT to the front to run something like a disc mower. Regards & thanks for pointing me to these videos. I'll have to check out the grain train ones when I get some more time.
You are most welcome. Feel free to wander around my site, there should be some more coming over the course of the next several weeks, it is taking time to convert VHS to You Tube, like I said previously, I just finished last week the one about the history of my 260 snowblower, that alone took 3 days, but I still enjoyed it.
I wish I had 1 dollar for ever precleaner I saw, I came to work on was appears not touched for years. I use welding rods try to poke through the pile up junk built up just to start cleaning it.. This 1 appears pretty good.
I tried to make it a habit to keep the pre-cleaners as free of debris as possible, simply because once you let them get to the point of where they start to obstruct air-flow then you are really defeating the purpose of their existence. Besides, I had a difficult time looking at something that filthy when the rest of the tractor looked "reasonably clean." Thanks for your very interesting comments!
Both tractors and blower look dandy, and fine hitch and front drive planning. I'm curious - 'might learn something: why did you use the mechanical stop collars on the lift cylinder, instead of using the hydraulic stop? More consistent and reliable, for definite up-stop travel maybe?
Hello Dave--The reason I went with the mechanical stops was because the cylinder had the optional slow speed retract. This allowed the cylinder to retract very very slowly if the lever was held in that position. I could not risk this ever happening, as the blower can not be raised any higher in transport position, due to almost certain drive-line failure of the PTO. I therefore had no choice but to install the stop collars, this way it can only go so high and no higher. Thanks for your interesting comments.
Hay Don. Was wondering what cab kit you got for your 4020.. I am restoring a 4520 with a stolper cab also and looking for a good fitting cab kit and also the rubber molding for all the glass.
Hello John. The cab on my 4020 is a "Hinson" cab made by Royal Industries, I believe out of Deleware. The "Stolper" cab was an entirely different model, not exactly certain where they originated from. Having said that, I was able to find the necessary upholstery from a firm called R & R Distributors in Manitoba, the floor mat was purchased through my local John Deere dealer, but since I was able to use all the original rubber molding I did not need to search for those items. Any miscellaneous items (windshield wiper, door handle, cab filter) all were available through JD as well.
Hello Fred. Uncertain as to how you know where I live, but having said that, I wish you had taken a moment to stop in as I would have been more then happy to show you my 4020 and blower as they are both hooked together and waiting for the next big storm to come our way.
Had grandkids and other half with me. Picked them up from ice fishing. Saw the property just aa we passed, looked familiar. You had replied to a comment on another video that you had been by Edenwold in the past.
What size of tubing did you use for the A frame set up? I’m thinking about using the same set up for my 3010. Beautiful equipment I must add. Would love to restore my John Deere to the condition yours is in!
Hello George, thanks for your comments. As for the entire push frame assembly, it is constructed of ordinary 2" x 3" tubing, unfortunately I can not tell you what thickness it is as I closed in all the ends with simple plating as I did not ever want to get snow into the tubing itself so as to cause rust to work from the inside outwards. The lift frame that hooks to the bottom of the lift cylinder is 3" x 3'" square tubing, again, no idea as to the actual thickness but I am certain I did not use the heaviest material available, probably just run of the mill steel tubing that I picked up at the local steel supply shop. Hope this is of some help.
Hello Todd, thanks for your comments, as for a demonstration, just click on the link immediately below the video you just watched and you will certainly be able to see this tractor/blower in operation.
Hi Brandon. I had originally drawn up some "rough" designs in order to mount the 3 point blower on to the front of a JD 148 F.E.L. which was on my 3020. I gave them to a local machinist who then proceeded to try and figure out the best method to make it work. He did a lot of the modifications regarding the chain drive as well as the loader mounting brackets and I used it for a number of years in that format. When I eventually sold the F.E.L. I had no choice but to make the necessary changes, so I took the blower and built to my own specification my own A-Frame, P.T.O. driveline, dual cylinder controls, spout rotator, etc. Upon retirement of my 3020 I had to modify it slightly to fit the 4020 but the end result was most satisfactory.
I had given it some thought initially, but after consulting an expert on the subject I discovered that the extra pump, motor and reservoir would have been not only cumbersome BUT very expensive. It was far simpler and easier just to design a system utilizing the front P.T.O. shaft running at 1000 rpm from under the front of the tractor.
One of the nicest 4020s I’ve seen,is it powershift?ours was a1965 powershift,wish I still had it.that was probably the same storm we had,live one mile from Sask. border not far from Kamsack.
Hello Randy- My 4020 is a Synchro-Range. My earlier 4020 (also a 1972 model as well) was Power Shift. (Wish I had kept that one, regret it terribly now) As for the storm, it hit us starting in the afternoon of Sunday March 4th. As for your location that is very interesting, as my grandparents originally homesteaded in the Kamsack/Veregin district in 1908 before moving here to Lipton in 1918. I do know their farm was very close to the White Sands River.
@@scottrayhons2537 Our new 1969 model was under hood air intake but several years later we bought a used '71 model powershift and it was thru the hood again.
It's a small world. I bought a 1977 international 1600 loadstar and a 1950 MM model Z tractor from a farmer Mr Fred Konkin from near Pelly (a bit north of Kamsack). All his equipment was meticulously maintained , stored inside and seeing your stuff and your neighbor Rusty's equipment reminds me of that farm near Pelly.
Now that's a snowblower! Is there anyway your could "engineer" a cover for the chain & sprocket to keep it clear of snow and ice? Looks like you could engineer just about anything.
Dear Keith: Yes, I suppose a cover could be built around the chain and sprocket, it would have to be made simple enough so that the "idler/tightener" sprocket would be easily accessible, but I think the toughest problem would be ease of oiling the chain. I do lubricate the chain with JD chain lube, something I feel is very necessary to keep it running smooth with all the moisture in the near vicinity. Right now with the way it is set up I have to be really careless to get much snow in and around the chain and the sprockets. (Something I am always mindful of) Thank you for your interesting comments
Dear Sir: Due to unforseen technical difficulties I had no choice but to make two videos out of one. When you came to write in your opinion you would have gone right past my comment where I state in BLOCK letters the proper website address in which to see this unit in operation, basically the second half of the video. I am not sure why you would not have noticed these simple instructions, maybe I should have made them much bigger. My mistake.
I will admit that it looks good in this video, but it does need a bit of work. The rear hydraulic couplers leak quite badly, a few leaks around the engine that should be taken care of, and a nasty little "dent" in the nose of the hood on the left hand side. It was there when I bought the tractor in 1970, would be nice to get rid of it, but if I do then the hood is going to have to get repainted, not sure what to do in any of these situations. I guess for the time being everything can remain the way it is. (Thanks for watching)
Great video! I have a 1984 IHC 5488 ( 185 engine hp) in two wheel drive. I've been contemplating putting a Shulte blower on that tractor, but would be more confident in a front wheel assisted tractor. I'm retired from farming, and don't want to spend big money on an upgraded tractor. Your thoughts?
Hello, glad you enjoyed watched my You Tube video. In regards to mounting a Shulte blower on your tractor, guess it all depends on the "capacity" of that unit. Your tractor certainly has enough power under the hood, as long as the blower can handle that horsepower then you shouldn't have a problem. Where you might run into any difficulty is if the blower is quite "heavy" then you could end up with not enough traction on the back wheels, hence the need for FWA. That would be the only downside with going with what you presently own. In my situation, the blower weighs only 750 lbs, give or take, the gearbox is designed for only 65 h.p. max, therefore I run the tractor at only 2/3 throttle at most. It is a setup that might not be proper for large scale operations, but like you, I too am retired, I did not want to spend an excessive amount of cash, preferred to use what I already had, made no sense investing in unnecessary equipment. Hope you do find a satisfactory "compromise" that will take care of any excess snowflakes!!
@@DeereDon / thank you for the prompt reply! 750 pounds is pretty manageable, but in my case, I would have to talk to a dealer, and see what the math tells us. My tractor with fluid in the rear tires seems adequate. I am using it for my yard and neighbors only. I am in western Manitoba, so we are practically neighbors.
No, I did not add the air intake on this tractor, that is how it came from the factory. I feel it is safe to say that any and all JD tractors sold in this province at that point in time came with the "external" air cleaner intake. As can be seen in this video, my 1966 3020 had a similar set-up as well, only smaller in size. It too arrived from the factory with that addition already installed. I believe it had a lot to do with the fact that tractors used in this province were subjected to extremely dusty conditions, not to mention the use of pull-type combines which created even more dust and chaff which caused problems regarding inadequate air intake through the side screens if the tractor was only equipped with "below the hood" air intake.
Hello Ron.. The air cleaner stack above the hood was an option for all 4020 tractors, right from 1964 until 1972, but here in Western Canada it was certainly not considered an option, but a necessity. Having said that, please note that my tractor has the oval muffler, something that makes this tractor 1969 (or newer). Another item to note, namely the cab on my tractor, is a Hinson cab, (built by Royal Industries) was only found on 1971 and 1972 tractors, and finally the serial number----267665---places my tractor at the very end of the 4020 production run. I did own previously another 1972 4020, serial number 268165 and I was informed by John Deere officials at the Waterloo factory that my previous tractor was produced in the last 1% of 4020's built.
Dear Sir: No, unfortunately, the cab did not come with a heater, but I suppose it would not take much effort to install a heater within the cab. Having said that, I decided to leave a heater out, simply because my neighbor down the road has a cab tractor with snowblower, and yes, he sits in there with just a light jacket, warm air blowing on him constantly. I also notice his windshield wiper is running full time, (any snow that swirls, blows or lands on the windows turns to water immediately) and when he parks his tractor it has to go into a heated shop (something I do not have), otherwise the side/rear windows would be nothing but ice to look through the next time he uses it. I have used this unit for several years now and not one time have I had a problem with water or ice on the windows, simply for the fact that they remain "cold" all the time.
I can not really give a proper answer, probably would be best to talk to somebody that actually sells snowblowers. I would simply say that most "modern" snowblowers fit only the current tractors that are available today, but that certainly does not say you can not do a bit of "blacksmithing" and mount the model you prefer on your 4020. It would be worth the efforts as the 4020 is still an ideal unit, especially with its mid P.T.O.
I do apologize for this unnecessary sound, it was caused when I inadvertently switched the button on my video camera from "manual" to "auto-focus" just before the video began and the camera was continually shifting back and forth trying to focus. I shall be more attentive in the future.
My 3020 was my main tractor when I started farming in 1970. As my farm got bigger so did my tractors, eventually the 3020 became a chore tractor, eventually the "snowblower tractor". After many years I decided to acquire the 4020, basically because I got tired of sitting out in the open. As my video states, I am now retired from farming, have basically just my farmyard to look after, the 4020 does the snowblowing and therefore the 3020 is literally out of a job, hence the reason for its "retirement" also.
Dear Sir: If you are referring to the "clicking" sound in the background, then I can sympathize with your feelings. The "focus" adjustment on the camera lens was inadvertently turned from manual to auto, therefore the camera lens was continually clicking back and forth, something that I did not want to happen as I had positioned the camera operator far enough away from where I was working so as not to have to adjust the focus. I did not know this had happened until viewing the video afterwards, by which time it was too late to do anything about. I do apologize for this oversight on my part.
I say you're nuts to restore/repaint any tractor that looks like that 3020, but it's yours, free country do what you like. I wish it would become popular to actually restore tractors and not repaint them. Most people repaint and call restored. After a few auctions you start to get the feeling the only tool most guys own are rattle cans
Thank you for your interesting comments. I guess I should have been more specific when I said that I wished to restore my 3020. To me a restoration is not just a paint job. In the case of my 3020 it would be having the rear hydraulic couplers at the rear of the tractor completely redone so they stop leaking oil all over my quonset floor, the seal on the steering wheel column done as well so it doesn't leak oil down on to the platform, holes closed up where the previous owner drilled into the fenders for whatever reason, dents taken out of the side radiator screens that the previous owner put there for whatever reason, the large dent removed from the front of the nose of the hood for again, the same reason, etc. Then I would get the tractor repainted (professionally) at the very end of all these jobs. I would never under any circumstances use a spray bomb to do this job. Never.
Thanks for the reply. I'm glad you didn't take my comment with the harshness that I now see it has in it that is in no way directed at you in particular. I just meant a lot of people do that. I guess you might take it as a compliment that your 3020 looks so good people become passionate about it's restoration. My original comment should have begun with great snowblower setup and great looking 3020 too. Hope the repairs and everything goes smoothly. I look forward to more great videos Thank you
@@jtoddjb No offense taken. I have had a few people mention that the 3020 should be left the way it is, only problem is I really don't like a mess sitting on the floor wherever I park it. Having said that, I guess I should take a video of my 4455 power shift which I bought new in 1990, has about 7300 hours on it, paint (still original) looks as good as the day it left the Waterloo factory. If we keep getting snow in this district I will probably have to use it (with the front end loader) to push some of it away. Thanks again for your most interesting comments.
Dear Sir: I tried combining both the technical aspect as well as the working part, but due to problems with my video efforts I had no choice but to split them into two separate videos. Please go to the video titled "Solutions to a Saskatchewan Spring Snow Storm."....There you will see this unit in action. I do apologize for this inconvenience.
4020 John Deere was the best tractor they made (for the time) owning a genuine Waterloo John Deere is better then having a bank account. They always go up in value.
The 4020 was probably the greatest tractor JD ever made.
It is the greatest tractor John Deere ever made
@@collinbarlow9655
Just maybe the best tractor of any brand ever built.
Totally agree with Drew Tibert, if the 3020 still has original factory paint I would leave as is. Would be worth far more to the collector when you would be willing to part ways with it. Both tractors look in great shape. Thanks for the walk around video, a superb set up for snow removal, the 4020 would be a lot more comfortable with the enclosed cab.
Two absolutely beautiful tractors!
Cool to hear the explanations of the modifications you accomplished. The pointer stick was the cherry on the cake for awesomeness. Nicely done all around.
Thanks ever so much for your comments, much appreciated!!
Great setup. That 3020 looks great also...love seeing the old 20 series jds till out there working
Very impressive. That all looks factory built. Those tractors already look restored. Nice to see somebody take such good care of them
Thank you for this video, just got my 4020 with crelo cab repainted and new rubber. I’m going to try get this setup built next. Thank you again
I hope it will all work out for you, will assume that any snow-blower you use will be sufficient for the size of the tractor.
Thank you for showing this nice looking 4020 and how you set up the snow blowing. This is something that i have never seen done before well done sir.
Thank you for the thoughtful and thorough explanation of the unit. I feel inspired to construct my own version. I like the idea of looking ahead when altering the vast, snowy landscape
Thanks for watching. I wish you the best of luck in building something similar that will work satisfactorily when the countryside is a white wonder-land!!
3020 looks almost like new - keep it like it is
Awesome video. I like that you pointed with the little stick. Both tractors are great and look even better. Well done on the snow blower build!
You are a smart man, I wish I had someone like you to teach me these things. Merry Christmas!
Both great tractors. I grew up driving a 1972 JD 4020 on the farm as well as a Farmall Model H and a IH Cub Cadet.
That is one beautiful tractor !! and I love the snow blower setup with your add ons, very nice job.
I would not restore that 3020 it looks too good to be repainted I would mechanically restore it but not painted unless it has been repainted already once before in it's life
Nice piece of engineering on that blower!!
That is the nicest peice of snow removal equipment I've ever seen.
Very nice job on the front mounting and drive setup!
Wow, this was so neat. Thank you for sharing.
Pretty cool setup!!!
Restoring the 3020 would decimate it's value. I would pay top dollar for original but wouldn't even make an offer on a restore. The conversion show's talent.
Excellent craftsmanship, leave to a farmer, good all around common sense, i grew up on a dairy farm and helped the neighbors haul grain in with a 4020, i always liked it, was not real big, but always had plenty of power, & smooth, im a union pipefitter & exray pipe welder now tig mig & stick, i acknowledged yr ingenious skills on yr project, very nice...
Very nicely done it's tasteful it does not hodgepodge and it's well thought out thank you very much for sharing
Both your tractors look great👍
absolutely BEAUTIFUL,
Looking good DD. Makes my old 2140 look pretty small.
Beautiful rig. No snow flakes were offended in the making of this video. ha
Sick set up brother.
Wow, you got some nice collections there! *Tips:* My Dad use WD-40 in the Chains on our Snow Blower to keep the snow from forming and keep the snow pilling / clogging up. Each time he goes out to Blow Snow, he would use WD-40 in the Chains. He turn on the Tractor while warming up, he then spray the Chains while it's still dry. It works and it keep the snow from forming on it. Remember, you have to do this every-time you Blow Snow and this would help Ice / Snow forming on the Chains!
Very talented. Beautiful!
Great work. Very well cared for machines.
Both tractors are a credit to you very well minded
Nice looking 3020
Beautiful machines you've got there
LOVE IT! You are "The Man" and you did it all just right..... you must have endless patience. It's your tractors do what you want with them!
I have a 1965 2020 and have been blowing snow with it for 40 years. I have been thinking of adding a gearbox onto the rear power takeoff to direct the drive shaft towards the front so I could mount the blower up front, and save myself from getting a stiff neck. After watching this, I just might get around to doing it.
Nice looking truck in the background, you Should do a video on it.
Great job on adapting the blower to a front mounted unit!! I'm sure it works great. Would love to see a video of it in operation if you get some snow!!
Hi Tom: Thanks for taking the time to view this video, I actually made a video of it in operation taken only moments after this video was shot. (Technical difficulties did not allow me to splice both of them together). It can be seen at the website address located directly below this video.
@@DeereDon Perfect. I just watched it. Great video and a great day to clear snow- no wind!! Thanks for getting back with me. Hope your 3020 restoration is coming along. Cheers.
Nice Job ! looks Factory .
Very well done.
That is a great setup. Would have been cool to see you run it.
Good evening Don: If you look at my website and find the video entitled --------"Solution for Saskatchewan Spring Snow Storm" --------you should be able to watch this unit in operation. I had a slight technical difficulty putting both of these video's together into one, therefore they had to be split. Thanks for your comments.
Very nice piece of equipment
Looks beautiful
She’s beautiful!
That unit looks amazing. Our 4020 has 27000 hours and still runs alot.
Original hours ? 🤔
@@bustersmith5569 well it's been worked on lots
@@ivanmoreau1798 so the radiator cap by as 27000 hours on it !! Lol,,,,,, I've seen some international go over 20000 hours and broke into,,,,,,,
That is a good story about the John Deere and the 1966 3020 sitting in the shed and then 1972 4020 with snow blower in Canada. But the video should've been a little longer to watch the 1972 4020 John Deere tractor blowing snow with modifications to the snow blower. After all you showed there was snow to move.
Dear Sir: I had a small technical difficulty making one video showing everything, I had no choice but to split them, but if you look at the top of the comment section you will note that there is a website where you can see this unit in operation. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Beautiful tractor
Damn buddy I thought the 3020 was restored. nice looking tractor to be retired and sitting to the side you took really good care of it. The good thing about it. Is you won't have to work to hard to restore it. I'm partial to the 4020. Have a great day. And week.
Thank you for your many interesting comments.
Very nice machine!
Thank you! and thanks for watching.
Looks good
That's really slick
you are very smart!!!
Wow that’s a clean tractor. That’s like mint condition
They look very nice
Very very nice my freind!!
Do what you want with your tractors very nice like the blower set up you are a good handy man
"CZcams is a perfect game and has no exploits"
bravo bravo bravo...very impressive
Brilliant
That's a very nice setup, Don. Happy to see how it all goes together. I was wondering how the PTO shaft was run underneath the front axle. Looks like you're using two pillow blocks between the U joints. Now you've got me wondering if anyone has fashioned a 3PT to the front to run something like a disc mower. Regards & thanks for pointing me to these videos. I'll have to check out the grain train ones when I get some more time.
You are most welcome. Feel free to wander around my site, there should be some more coming over the course of the next several weeks, it is taking time to convert VHS to You Tube, like I said previously, I just finished last week the one about the history of my 260 snowblower, that alone took 3 days, but I still enjoyed it.
Had a mckenzie on a IH 656 best blower my uncle ever had !!!
I wish I had 1 dollar for ever precleaner I saw, I came to work on was appears not touched for years. I use welding rods try to poke through the pile up junk built up just to start cleaning it.. This 1 appears pretty good.
I tried to make it a habit to keep the pre-cleaners as free of debris as possible, simply because once you let them get to the point of where they start to obstruct air-flow then you are really defeating the purpose of their existence. Besides, I had a difficult time looking at something that filthy when the rest of the tractor looked "reasonably clean." Thanks for your very interesting comments!
Very nice
Very nice 🚜👍
Both tractors and blower look dandy, and fine hitch and front drive planning. I'm curious - 'might learn something: why did you use the mechanical stop collars on the lift cylinder, instead of using the hydraulic stop? More consistent and reliable, for definite up-stop travel maybe?
Hello Dave--The reason I went with the mechanical stops was because the cylinder had the optional slow speed retract. This allowed the cylinder to retract very very slowly if the lever was held in that position. I could not risk this ever happening, as the blower can not be raised any higher in transport position, due to almost certain drive-line failure of the PTO. I therefore had no choice but to install the stop collars, this way it can only go so high and no higher. Thanks for your interesting comments.
DeereDon
Interesting / understood. Thanks.
Hay Don. Was wondering what cab kit you got for your 4020.. I am restoring a 4520 with a stolper cab also and looking for a good fitting cab kit and also the rubber molding for all the glass.
Hello John. The cab on my 4020 is a "Hinson" cab made by Royal Industries, I believe out of Deleware. The "Stolper" cab was an entirely different model, not exactly certain where they originated from. Having said that, I was able to find the necessary upholstery from a firm called R & R Distributors in Manitoba, the floor mat was purchased through my local John Deere dealer, but since I was able to use all the original rubber molding I did not need to search for those items. Any miscellaneous items (windshield wiper, door handle, cab filter) all were available through JD as well.
Passed by your place today, heading to Southey
Hello Fred. Uncertain as to how you know where I live, but having said that, I wish you had taken a moment to stop in as I would have been more then happy to show you my 4020 and blower as they are both hooked together and waiting for the next big storm to come our way.
Had grandkids and other half with me. Picked them up from ice fishing. Saw the property just aa we passed, looked familiar. You had replied to a comment on another video that you had been by Edenwold in the past.
What size of tubing did you use for the A frame set up? I’m thinking about using the same set up for my 3010. Beautiful equipment I must add. Would love to restore my John Deere to the condition yours is in!
Hello George, thanks for your comments. As for the entire push frame assembly, it is constructed of ordinary 2" x 3" tubing, unfortunately I can not tell you what thickness it is as I closed in all the ends with simple plating as I did not ever want to get snow into the tubing itself so as to cause rust to work from the inside outwards. The lift frame that hooks to the bottom of the lift cylinder is 3" x 3'" square tubing, again, no idea as to the actual thickness but I am certain I did not use the heaviest material available, probably just run of the mill steel tubing that I picked up at the local steel supply shop. Hope this is of some help.
Very good engineering work, should have done a little demonstration using it ..
Hello Todd, thanks for your comments, as for a demonstration, just click on the link immediately below the video you just watched and you will certainly be able to see this tractor/blower in operation.
That is a beautiful machine!
Question. You said the JD 260 was originally a 3 point model. Did you do the conversion yourself?
Hi Brandon. I had originally drawn up some "rough" designs in order to mount the 3 point blower on to the front of a JD 148 F.E.L. which was on my 3020. I gave them to a local machinist who then proceeded to try and figure out the best method to make it work. He did a lot of the modifications regarding the chain drive as well as the loader mounting brackets and I used it for a number of years in that format. When I eventually sold the F.E.L. I had no choice but to make the necessary changes, so I took the blower and built to my own specification my own A-Frame, P.T.O. driveline, dual cylinder controls, spout rotator, etc. Upon retirement of my 3020 I had to modify it slightly to fit the 4020 but the end result was most satisfactory.
That is one great job of reconfiguring the PTO. Would you have been able to run the blower with a hydraulic motor?
I had given it some thought initially, but after consulting an expert on the subject I discovered that the extra pump, motor and reservoir would have been not only cumbersome BUT very expensive. It was far simpler and easier just to design a system utilizing the front P.T.O. shaft running at 1000 rpm from under the front of the tractor.
One of the nicest 4020s I’ve seen,is it powershift?ours was a1965 powershift,wish I still had it.that was probably the same storm we had,live one mile from Sask. border not far from Kamsack.
Hello Randy- My 4020 is a Synchro-Range. My earlier 4020 (also a 1972 model as well) was Power Shift. (Wish I had kept that one, regret it terribly now) As for the storm, it hit us starting in the afternoon of Sunday March 4th. As for your location that is very interesting, as my grandparents originally homesteaded in the Kamsack/Veregin district in 1908 before moving here to Lipton in 1918. I do know their farm was very close to the White Sands River.
If that 4020 is a 1972, why then is there an air intake stack on it? It seems to me the air intake was put under the hood in 1969 and later models.
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Our new 1969 model was under hood air intake but several years later we bought a used '71 model powershift and it was thru the hood again.
It's a small world. I bought a 1977 international 1600 loadstar and a 1950 MM model Z tractor from a farmer Mr Fred Konkin from near Pelly (a bit north of Kamsack). All his equipment was meticulously maintained , stored inside and seeing your stuff and your neighbor Rusty's equipment reminds me of that farm near Pelly.
@@thetractorguyoldtractor3524 I live 14 miles east of Pelly
3020 looks restored already- You may want to do mechanical restoration but for the cosmetics- wax it and call it done !
Now that's a snowblower! Is there anyway your could "engineer" a cover for the chain & sprocket to keep it clear of snow and ice? Looks like you could engineer just about anything.
Dear Keith: Yes, I suppose a cover could be built around the chain and sprocket, it would have to be made simple enough so that the "idler/tightener" sprocket would be easily accessible, but I think the toughest problem would be ease of oiling the chain. I do lubricate the chain with JD chain lube, something I feel is very necessary to keep it running smooth with all the moisture in the near vicinity. Right now with the way it is set up I have to be really careless to get much snow in and around the chain and the sprockets. (Something I am always mindful of) Thank you for your interesting comments
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What, all show and no blow, not fair!
Dear Sir: Due to unforseen technical difficulties I had no choice but to make two videos out of one. When you came to write in your opinion you would have gone right past my comment where I state in BLOCK letters the proper website address in which to see this unit in operation, basically the second half of the video. I am not sure why you would not have noticed these simple instructions, maybe I should have made them much bigger. My mistake.
@@DeereDon I realize you can tell from words on a screen, but I was just joking with you. It wasn't meant as a bad comment at all.
The 3020 looks still new
I will admit that it looks good in this video, but it does need a bit of work. The rear hydraulic couplers leak quite badly, a few leaks around the engine that should be taken care of, and a nasty little "dent" in the nose of the hood on the left hand side. It was there when I bought the tractor in 1970, would be nice to get rid of it, but if I do then the hood is going to have to get repainted, not sure what to do in any of these situations. I guess for the time being everything can remain the way it is. (Thanks for watching)
Great video! I have a 1984 IHC 5488 ( 185 engine hp) in two wheel drive. I've been contemplating putting a Shulte blower on that tractor, but would be more confident in a front wheel assisted tractor. I'm retired from farming, and don't want to spend big money on an upgraded tractor. Your thoughts?
Hello, glad you enjoyed watched my You Tube video. In regards to mounting a Shulte blower on your tractor, guess it all depends on the "capacity" of that unit. Your tractor certainly has enough power under the hood, as long as the blower can handle that horsepower then you shouldn't have a problem. Where you might run into any difficulty is if the blower is quite "heavy" then you could end up with not enough traction on the back wheels, hence the need for FWA. That would be the only downside with going with what you presently own. In my situation, the blower weighs only 750 lbs, give or take, the gearbox is designed for only 65 h.p. max, therefore I run the tractor at only 2/3 throttle at most. It is a setup that might not be proper for large scale operations, but like you, I too am retired, I did not want to spend an excessive amount of cash, preferred to use what I already had, made no sense investing in unnecessary equipment. Hope you do find a satisfactory "compromise" that will take care of any excess snowflakes!!
@@DeereDon / thank you for the prompt reply! 750 pounds is pretty manageable, but in my case, I would have to talk to a dealer, and see what the math tells us. My tractor with fluid in the rear tires seems adequate. I am using it for my yard and neighbors only. I am in western Manitoba, so we are practically neighbors.
My 72 doesn't have an air intake like that. Did you add that? My '65 had one.
No, I did not add the air intake on this tractor, that is how it came from the factory. I feel it is safe to say that any and all JD tractors sold in this province at that point in time came with the "external" air cleaner intake. As can be seen in this video, my 1966 3020 had a similar set-up as well, only smaller in size. It too arrived from the factory with that addition already installed. I believe it had a lot to do with the fact that tractors used in this province were subjected to extremely dusty conditions, not to mention the use of pull-type combines which created even more dust and chaff which caused problems regarding inadequate air intake through the side screens if the tractor was only equipped with "below the hood" air intake.
are you shear its a 72 it looks like 68 with the air cleaner out the hood. it looks good
Hello Ron.. The air cleaner stack above the hood was an option for all 4020 tractors, right from 1964 until 1972, but here in Western Canada it was certainly not considered an option, but a necessity. Having said that, please note that my tractor has the oval muffler, something that makes this tractor 1969 (or newer). Another item to note, namely the cab on my tractor, is a Hinson cab, (built by Royal Industries) was only found on 1971 and 1972 tractors, and finally the serial number----267665---places my tractor at the very end of the 4020 production run. I did own previously another 1972 4020, serial number 268165 and I was informed by John Deere officials at the Waterloo factory that my previous tractor was produced in the last 1% of 4020's built.
Just got a 4520
Is the Cab heated?
Dear Sir: No, unfortunately, the cab did not come with a heater, but I suppose it would not take much effort to install a heater within the cab. Having said that, I decided to leave a heater out, simply because my neighbor down the road has a cab tractor with snowblower, and yes, he sits in there with just a light jacket, warm air blowing on him constantly. I also notice his windshield wiper is running full time, (any snow that swirls, blows or lands on the windows turns to water immediately) and when he parks his tractor it has to go into a heated shop (something I do not have), otherwise the side/rear windows would be nothing but ice to look through the next time he uses it. I have used this unit for several years now and not one time have I had a problem with water or ice on the windows, simply for the fact that they remain "cold" all the time.
Ross Perot on blowers...
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Amazing job and beautiful tractor if you ever decide to sell it please contact me first :)
Thanks for the comments. I will certainly put your name on the list of interested parties that also would like this old JD classic.
it looks weird without a 3 point hitch
Can you put new blowers on such a tractor? I have a 66 4020
I can not really give a proper answer, probably would be best to talk to somebody that actually sells snowblowers. I would simply say that most "modern" snowblowers fit only the current tractors that are available today, but that certainly does not say you can not do a bit of "blacksmithing" and mount the model you prefer on your 4020. It would be worth the efforts as the 4020 is still an ideal unit, especially with its mid P.T.O.
Thanks for your input good luck on that restoration!
Wat sounds like sharping knifes
I do apologize for this unnecessary sound, it was caused when I inadvertently switched the button on my video camera from "manual" to "auto-focus" just before the video began and the camera was continually shifting back and forth trying to focus. I shall be more attentive in the future.
thats it on your 3020 and its going to "retire?" the one here is over 13000 and still going and it will continue to go
My 3020 was my main tractor when I started farming in 1970. As my farm got bigger so did my tractors, eventually the 3020 became a chore tractor, eventually the "snowblower tractor". After many years I decided to acquire the 4020, basically because I got tired of sitting out in the open. As my video states, I am now retired from farming, have basically just my farmyard to look after, the 4020 does the snowblowing and therefore the 3020 is literally out of a job, hence the reason for its "retirement" also.
You should be working for Tesla
What the hell is that background noise?
Dear Sir: If you are referring to the "clicking" sound in the background, then I can sympathize with your feelings. The "focus" adjustment on the camera lens was inadvertently turned from manual to auto, therefore the camera lens was continually clicking back and forth, something that I did not want to happen as I had positioned the camera operator far enough away from where I was working so as not to have to adjust the focus. I did not know this had happened until viewing the video afterwards, by which time it was too late to do anything about. I do apologize for this oversight on my part.
way too much shine on the equipment and tractors
I say you're nuts to restore/repaint any tractor that looks like that 3020, but it's yours, free country do what you like. I wish it would become popular to actually restore tractors and not repaint them. Most people repaint and call restored. After a few auctions you start to get the feeling the only tool most guys own are rattle cans
Thank you for your interesting comments. I guess I should have been more specific when I said that I wished to restore my 3020. To me a restoration is not just a paint job. In the case of my 3020 it would be having the rear hydraulic couplers at the rear of the tractor completely redone so they stop leaking oil all over my quonset floor, the seal on the steering wheel column done as well so it doesn't leak oil down on to the platform, holes closed up where the previous owner drilled into the fenders for whatever reason, dents taken out of the side radiator screens that the previous owner put there for whatever reason, the large dent removed from the front of the nose of the hood for again, the same reason, etc. Then I would get the tractor repainted (professionally) at the very end of all these jobs. I would never under any circumstances use a spray bomb to do this job. Never.
Thanks for the reply. I'm glad you didn't take my comment with the harshness that I now see it has in it that is in no way directed at you in particular. I just meant a lot of people do that. I guess you might take it as a compliment that your 3020 looks so good people become passionate about it's restoration. My original comment should have begun with great snowblower setup and great looking 3020 too. Hope the repairs and everything goes smoothly. I look forward to more great videos Thank you
@@jtoddjb No offense taken. I have had a few people mention that the 3020 should be left the way it is, only problem is I really don't like a mess sitting on the floor wherever I park it. Having said that, I guess I should take a video of my 4455 power shift which I bought new in 1990, has about 7300 hours on it, paint (still original) looks as good as the day it left the Waterloo factory. If we keep getting snow in this district I will probably have to use it (with the front end loader) to push some of it away. Thanks again for your most interesting comments.
10 minutes watching a video about a snowblower. I wanted to see the damm thing working,not get a lecture/lesson on the wonderful works
Dear Sir: I tried combining both the technical aspect as well as the working part, but due to problems with my video efforts I had no choice but to split them into two separate videos. Please go to the video titled "Solutions to a Saskatchewan Spring Snow Storm."....There you will see this unit in action. I do apologize for this inconvenience.