A lot of torch losses in the last couple of years has been caused by chop shops cutting newly acquired colonies not being rested before AND after fragging. Most Euphillia have a very fragile window of about 3 months when being moved or fragged. Once a colony has been cut and has lasted 3 months it will normally be rock solid. I’ve kept all types of euphyllia over the last 30 years and never seen mortality rates so low since the whole ‘ultra’ fad has decended on the hobby. Before leds many of the high end euphyllia looked very drab and would sell for peanuts. LED’s are a double edged sword as whilst they gave us all the colours we love so much they also sadly they have also brought us the chop shop mentality. Simply put, torches and all other euphyllia are simple and very hardy IF….you rest them after import and once cut, let them settle for approx 12 weeks. If it’s good after that it’ll be almost bombproof even in less than lesser managed systems.
Hello Fragbox, Love your inventory new client to your products but got to say great selection. Bought a few things and loving it healthy growing and just wanted to say thank you and will keep coming and recommending. Thank you March Kong
I really appreciate and like your channel a lot when I was in the states I had a 55 gallon reef tank it was my baby but now I live in Costa Rica. It's very hard to get do something like that here
Along with stable parameters i would also suggest learning about antibiotic dips/baths. Ive seen dying torches saved by cipro treatments. reef2reef has some really good info on this as well.
What treatments are you speaking of? Mine has slowly stopped coming out and is almost all the way in as of now. Good lighting and good flow he’s just slowly started dwindling
If you’re looking for new video series ideas I would love to see an Evo 13.5 series but with stock out of the box hardware. It seems like most high quality videos you find of them all are upgraded with high end lights and I know there are other people like me who would like to see what one can do out of the box
I have a basically stock Evo. Stock lights and pump. Just added a small power head for more flow, my own filter media in chamber 1 because I hate that foam block thing, a UV sterilizer in chamber 2, a bag of activated carbon in chamber 3. All that stuff cost me maybe $70 and makes maintenance so much easier. The stock lights on the Evo are actually very good for the price point. Just stick to corals that require low-medium lighting requirements. You can honestly do a lot with the Evo. It really is a great starter tank. All the things I added just make it easier for me to maintain and don’t necessarily increase its coral keeping capability. Check this guy out. He’s done the things I mentioned and has other really good cheap upgrades that help a lot with the Evo. czcams.com/video/R_MiKV7xMgw/video.html
I keep my refractometer in the garage with my tank so I check calibration on mine every time I use it. My hammers are super happy and I have raised my Mg to 1500+. I have used March's advice and I brought back a single head hammer frag that was an 1/8" in diameter and sometime I would look at it and say "Dang it's toast" now it's opening great every day and doubled in size.
Ph may have been overlooked especially night time Ph. LPS are not supposed to get down in the 7.6-7.9 range for optimal health. Ever since I’ve been keeping Ph above 8.1 24/7 my corals have done much better.
Problem with flow in my 125 gallon 6' long tank. I know you need flow to keep things moving but it seems even when the power heads are on 30%, the anemone gets battered. Just got it a week ago. It's attached to the rock, in the light, but it's on the side of the rock, with half of its base around it. Not much tentacle extension. If I set the power heads so they LIGHTLY DANCE, it seems like my tank won't have enough flow?
Hello March I think I’ve watch all your videos and I’ve picked up a lot so thank you! Your videos are great and very informative. I am thinking of making a torch coral garden but I would like to mix with hammers and frogspawn. I think I recall you saying that as-long as the corals body do not touch they are ok? I can see your torches tentacles are touching your hammer tentacles and everything is ok 👍🏻
What does it mean when my torch tentacles are curled and retracted? It hasn't opened up much in a month. It started out 2 heads but I have noticed it'd going through a massive split. 1 head is splitting into 3 and the other head is splitting into 2.
wich i s your configuration of radion g5? i have radion g5 pro not blue but i dont know how many cool white and white, and the ttal intensity in mobius, of the all chanels
Once again another great video I believe I just killed my first coral I had such high hopes for it only been a few days but it just felt completely apart I’m done.
Looking awesome as always chief. I recently caught my aptasia eating filefish nipping at one of the torches I have. I’m a torch junkie. Will try aqua forest as I hate using the dang salifert. Lol😂
So, what are the causes of brown jelly disease? I had two large colonies of Torches which were multiplying to the point that they overtook my tank, I purchased a new larger tank, broke up the colonies keeping around 40 heads, over the past 6 months that number has dwindled because of brown jelly
@@liquidpapersynth Interesting, but I found that when my other tank was high in phosphate & nitrates the torches did better, now my water conditions in the new tank are more in check with weekly water testing & water changes, because I have more time available, and I actually feed less but with a larger variety of foods, those remaining torches are now scattered around the tank, different par values, different flow conditions, and I still get random losses of heads, very frustrating
@@billclarke7893 I have found the Tropic Marin dip to be effective in treating brown jelly with no apparent stress to the coral. It Will also kill any euphylia eating flatworms but not their eggs. They live inside the head and can’t be seen. The dip will show the dead worms. 🤞
hey man, my torch is open but the skeleton is showing partially around where the tissue and skeleton meet. I haven't seen any flatworms. Any idea on what could be wrong with my torch??
Everyone always says dont let different types of Euphyllia touch and there u have a torch touching a hammer and they both look happy as shit! Difference between ive done it and i read it somewhere!
off topic here March, but have you ever tried to catch a fish in your aquarium? Any recommendation in terms of product? I have a wrasse and she has been picking on all my fish, understandable since she is the biggest fish in the tank. She was not always that but she has grown so much in just 4 months. I need to rehome her but she is ultra smart. Well onto your subject, luckily I have never had any problem with torches except one and that is because I bought it from a bad LFS but luckily it was 40 bucks so not too much of a loss. My aquarium is high in nitrates 30-40 range and they like it, of course I have no sps so I don't have to worry. Some people here in the US will spend 1K for torches. Also feed them rod's food or reef frenzy, they absolutely love it, they don't like the cheap stuff because they will grab it then I see they release it after a bit, but the frenzy and rods food, they eat it. You have to hand feed them, I do it once a week, but really enjoy seeing them eat it.
Hi March , would different torches have different polyp extension?? I'm running 2 G6 xr15 blue on my reefer 250 with all parameters very good with mag at 1500+ . Par they are at 137 where my torches are but one just won't play ball lol and I've never had any extended the way yours are! Any advice is greatly appreciated! Can you also ship to the UK please 😢
Hey I'm new to the hobby and I have 4 torches 2 are doing really well 1 is looking a little stubby and one is looking like it's in rough shape can anyone help me out
Just bought a torch off your wonderful store, had 2 nice Flatworms :p. I was wondering as my levels and flow are very good, it seems to not open fully for most of the day, I saw some Wierd white bumps on the stem and can't seem to find any info if it's Eggs or not. Wondering if your purple torches there with light blue tips have the same bumps on theirs.
Omg mine are like weeds. Tentacles 15 long. Need a football field. Keep those trates up and feed well. Phos. 15. Quarantine EVERTHING. DIP DIP DIP. NOTHING HITS DISPLAY FOR 76 DAYS Torch = salsa danging. 1650 mag. 480 calc. Alk 9.5. My pygmys breed behind torch. Babies galore.
I’ve never heard anyone running or recommending running Mg at 1500, i thought mine was too much at 1400 😳 seems extremely high and does t affect any other parameters like the calcium ratio?
I really like to have a business like this i love reef corals and fish but our country is banned for this stuff.. they raid the place where i buy reel coral and fish many times that's why there's no selling anymore corals in our place where i bought them..
Yea id like to know as well. The instructions on it tell you otherwise… ive seen ppl calibrate with an absolute known salinity from another saltwater tank but???
The first time I took mine to LFS who checked it against their own. I have since purchased some 35ppt solution. I have 3 meters and they were all giving me a slightly different reading. they are all spot on now :-) purchased on amazon $10. when I used regular rodi water each of the 3 meters gamve a different reading the higher ppt I went..
I see a lot of people do use ro water but everyone I’ve known to then use a calibration solution or icp, have been up to 0.01-2 out on the reading but I’m not sure why though
A lot of torch losses in the last couple of years has been caused by chop shops cutting newly acquired colonies not being rested before AND after fragging. Most Euphillia have a very fragile window of about 3 months when being moved or fragged. Once a colony has been cut and has lasted 3 months it will normally be rock solid.
I’ve kept all types of euphyllia over the last 30 years and never seen mortality rates so low since the whole ‘ultra’ fad has decended on the hobby.
Before leds many of the high end euphyllia looked very drab and would sell for peanuts. LED’s are a double edged sword as whilst they gave us all the colours we love so much they also sadly they have also brought us the chop shop mentality.
Simply put, torches and all other euphyllia are simple and very hardy IF….you rest them after import and once cut, let them settle for approx 12 weeks. If it’s good after that it’ll be almost bombproof even in less than lesser managed systems.
Extremely important comment in my opinion. After ruling everything else out, I think I'm dealing with this right now
I learn a lot watching these videos. Thank you
Hello Fragbox,
Love your inventory new client to your products but got to say great selection. Bought a few things and loving it healthy growing and just wanted to say thank you and will keep coming and recommending. Thank you March
Kong
I really appreciate and like your channel a lot when I was in the states I had a 55 gallon reef tank it was my baby but now I live in Costa Rica. It's very hard to get do something like that here
Along with stable parameters i would also suggest learning about antibiotic dips/baths. Ive seen dying torches saved by cipro treatments. reef2reef has some really good info on this as well.
What treatments are you speaking of? Mine has slowly stopped coming out and is almost all the way in as of now. Good lighting and good flow he’s just slowly started dwindling
The two torch I picked up from you guys are doing great thus far.... Wanna pick up a few more shortly.
If you’re looking for new video series ideas I would love to see an Evo 13.5 series but with stock out of the box hardware. It seems like most high quality videos you find of them all are upgraded with high end lights and I know there are other people like me who would like to see what one can do out of the box
Also with stocking ideas for fish, cuc etc.. So many people with different opinions about what type of fish are ok in that size tank.
I have a basically stock Evo. Stock lights and pump. Just added a small power head for more flow, my own filter media in chamber 1 because I hate that foam block thing, a UV sterilizer in chamber 2, a bag of activated carbon in chamber 3. All that stuff cost me maybe $70 and makes maintenance so much easier.
The stock lights on the Evo are actually very good for the price point. Just stick to corals that require low-medium lighting requirements. You can honestly do a lot with the Evo. It really is a great starter tank. All the things I added just make it easier for me to maintain and don’t necessarily increase its coral keeping capability.
Check this guy out. He’s done the things I mentioned and has other really good cheap upgrades that help a lot with the Evo. czcams.com/video/R_MiKV7xMgw/video.html
Just got some beautiful torches today :)
First video of yours I've watched. Subscribed, and liked for sure. Great content!
I keep my refractometer in the garage with my tank so I check calibration on mine every time I use it. My hammers are super happy and I have raised my Mg to 1500+. I have used March's advice and I brought back a single head hammer frag that was an 1/8" in diameter and sometime I would look at it and say "Dang it's toast" now it's opening great every day and doubled in size.
Ph may have been overlooked especially night time Ph. LPS are not supposed to get down in the 7.6-7.9 range for optimal health. Ever since I’ve been keeping Ph above 8.1 24/7 my corals have done much better.
Thanks for the video!
Problem with flow in my 125 gallon 6' long tank. I know you need flow to keep things moving but it seems even when the power heads are on 30%, the anemone gets battered. Just got it a week ago. It's attached to the rock, in the light, but it's on the side of the rock, with half of its base around it. Not much tentacle extension. If I set the power heads so they LIGHTLY DANCE, it seems like my tank won't have enough flow?
You guys should do a feeding video of the store/ maintenance day
Will derasa clams do well in that high of magnesium? My goal is to have an LPS only tank (plus clam)!
Calibrate with tap water?
I calibrate with 35ppt calibration solution.
hi what about nitrates and phosphate in a fish and coral tank... mine is 7 nitrates and 6 phos , mag is 1500
What are the levels of the tank
How come you don’t like the new Salifert calcium test? It’s one less reagent and much simpler.
Yeah, don't get either, their calcium test is super easy now.
What about low Nitrate and Phosphate? I think this has been my problem as they have been testing 0 for a year
Hello March I think I’ve watch all your videos and I’ve picked up a lot so thank you! Your videos are great and very informative. I am thinking of making a torch coral garden but I would like to mix with hammers and frogspawn. I think I recall you saying that as-long as the corals body do not touch they are ok? I can see your torches tentacles are touching your hammer tentacles and everything is ok 👍🏻
Yes he mentioned as long as the skeleton is not touching. That was also a great video.
How is that hammer surviving amongst the torches?
I find hammers much hardier
What does it mean when my torch tentacles are curled and retracted? It hasn't opened up much in a month. It started out 2 heads but I have noticed it'd going through a massive split. 1 head is splitting into 3 and the other head is splitting into 2.
I had a couple of peppermint shrimp that I would watch and they would eat every torch I put in my tank.
wich i s your configuration of radion g5? i have radion g5 pro not blue but i dont know how many cool white and white, and the ttal intensity in mobius, of the all chanels
Once again another great video I believe I just killed my first coral I had such high hopes for it only been a few days but it just felt completely apart I’m done.
I’ve just had problems with my red sea mag test kit
Yo March. One big reason for a Torch to die or any other LPS is phosphate. Anything above .1 is dodgy. I like to keep mine at 0.03
Thanks 😊
Looking awesome as always chief. I recently caught my aptasia eating filefish nipping at one of the torches I have. I’m a torch junkie. Will try aqua forest as I hate using the dang salifert. Lol😂
So, what are the causes of brown jelly disease? I had two large colonies of Torches which were multiplying to the point that they overtook my tank, I purchased a new larger tank, broke up the colonies keeping around 40 heads, over the past 6 months that number has dwindled because of brown jelly
Hi, over feeding is main cause of brown jelly in euphylia I have found.
@@liquidpapersynth Interesting, but I found that when my other tank was high in phosphate & nitrates the torches did better, now my water conditions in the new tank are more in check with weekly water testing & water changes, because I have more time available, and I actually feed less but with a larger variety of foods, those remaining torches are now scattered around the tank, different par values, different flow conditions, and I still get random losses of heads, very frustrating
@@billclarke7893 I have found the Tropic Marin dip to be effective in treating brown jelly with no apparent stress to the coral. It Will also kill any euphylia eating flatworms but not their eggs. They live inside the head and can’t be seen. The dip will show the dead worms. 🤞
@@liquidpapersynth thanks for the tip
Hi can I have some advise please I have a torch and a hammer however they look like they are dieing.
the corals you have dude!!!amazing!!! do you ship to Greece? haha!
hey man, my torch is open but the skeleton is showing partially around where the tissue and skeleton meet. I haven't seen any flatworms. Any idea on what could be wrong with my torch??
Everyone always says dont let different types of Euphyllia touch and there u have a torch touching a hammer and they both look happy as shit! Difference between ive done it and i read it somewhere!
many myths online !
off topic here March, but have you ever tried to catch a fish in your aquarium? Any recommendation in terms of product? I have a wrasse and she has been picking on all my fish, understandable since she is the biggest fish in the tank. She was not always that but she has grown so much in just 4 months. I need to rehome her but she is ultra smart. Well onto your subject, luckily I have never had any problem with torches except one and that is because I bought it from a bad LFS but luckily it was 40 bucks so not too much of a loss. My aquarium is high in nitrates 30-40 range and they like it, of course I have no sps so I don't have to worry. Some people here in the US will spend 1K for torches. Also feed them rod's food or reef frenzy, they absolutely love it, they don't like the cheap stuff because they will grab it then I see they release it after a bit, but the frenzy and rods food, they eat it. You have to hand feed them, I do it once a week, but really enjoy seeing them eat it.
fish trap from sea side aquatics works well
@@fragboxcorals , Thanks.
Hi, I noticed that my torches are open and happy but then after a few hours they close , do you have any idea why???
sometimes i reduce G5 to 50%- incrase intensity slowly . we can look different how much they open and happy.not use par meter.
Hi March , would different torches have different polyp extension?? I'm running 2 G6 xr15 blue on my reefer 250 with all parameters very good with mag at 1500+ . Par they are at 137 where my torches are but one just won't play ball lol and I've never had any extended the way yours are! Any advice is greatly appreciated! Can you also ship to the UK please 😢
Whats the lighting schedule on your hydra 26hds for your torch corals
Hey I'm new to the hobby and I have 4 torches 2 are doing really well 1 is looking a little stubby and one is looking like it's in rough shape can anyone help me out
Can I please have your schedule for the Radion g5 blues
As soon as things go away from the norm I run an ICP test immediately
Just bought a torch off your wonderful store, had 2 nice Flatworms :p. I was wondering as my levels and flow are very good, it seems to not open fully for most of the day, I saw some Wierd white bumps on the stem and can't seem to find any info if it's Eggs or not. Wondering if your purple torches there with light blue tips have the same bumps on theirs.
Omg mine are like weeds. Tentacles 15 long. Need a football field. Keep those trates up and feed well. Phos. 15. Quarantine EVERTHING. DIP DIP DIP. NOTHING HITS DISPLAY FOR 76 DAYS
Torch = salsa danging. 1650 mag. 480 calc. Alk 9.5. My pygmys breed behind torch. Babies galore.
if u can keep ur alk at 9.5 good for you!
I’ve never heard anyone running or recommending running Mg at 1500, i thought mine was too much at 1400 😳 seems extremely high and does t affect any other parameters like the calcium ratio?
Hey is the gold tip elegance ready for sell on the web yet?
since u keep ur Mg 1450-1550, how do u test Mg above 1500?
Salifert max lvl is 1500
Just fill the syringe again and keep going and count how much you need to add extra.
My magnesium went up to 1500 ppm and sadly killed my nasarius snails by paralyzing them. Everything else was o.k. at this level of magnesium.😪
Never had that happen are u using a so glad source or 2 sources as suppose
Remember March, Torches are no longer considered Euphylia corals
You don't use fresh water you use propper calibration fluid for refractor I use a TMC hydrometer and a deep six
Fyi youre suppose to calibrate with olive oil
I really like to have a business like this i love reef corals and fish but our country is banned for this stuff.. they raid the place where i buy reel coral and fish many times that's why there's no selling anymore corals in our place where i bought them..
They’ve burned me bad. Maybe someday ill give it another go.
SometimesTorch coral close up we there spitting
Everyday if the week that’s crazy
Please do not calibrate your refractometer with fresh water
please explain why not
Yea id like to know as well. The instructions on it tell you otherwise… ive seen ppl calibrate with an absolute known salinity from another saltwater tank but???
The first time I took mine to LFS who checked it against their own. I have since purchased some 35ppt solution. I have 3 meters and they were all giving me a slightly different reading. they are all spot on now :-) purchased on amazon $10. when I used regular rodi water each of the 3 meters gamve a different reading the higher ppt I went..
I calibrate with NSW that I collect, not sure how fresh water would work? March could you do a video showing how you do it?
I see a lot of people do use ro water but everyone I’ve known to then use a calibration solution or icp, have been up to 0.01-2 out on the reading but I’m not sure why though
So much rhetoric before the actual info
I'm 0-3 on Euphyllia...I've sworn them off for good, LOL
I have a Frogspawn that is looking good.. but my torch just died and my hammer is looking like trash :(
💣
ALK swings
What about Duncan, All doing well, but not Duncans
check out our duncan video
Tia is magnificent 😍
First yay