If I was hiring and saw the sausage post, I would assume that this woman would engage in inappropriate behavior in the workplace. Perhaps with the intention of baiting others into responding in a way that would allow her to sue for harassment.
We aren't supposed to put profile pictures on our resumes because companies don't want to be held liable for discrimination, yet you get ruled out for not having one on LinkedIn 🤔
This just shows how they dodged anti discrimination laws. Even so, they can still discriminate after the very first interview because they can refuse to progress with your application without giving you ANY reason whatsoever, meaning they can do whatever the fuck they like :D
I've always thought that this was a weird contradiction. But LinkedIn is also about networking so it's good to know you are connecting with a real person by seeing your face. BTW In some countries it is standard to have a picture on your resume.
Everyone in other countries outside of US always tells me that photos are required on resumes everywhere else. It’s so different in different countries.
LinkedIn is just another horrible social politics site. I get so tired of seeing sales posting how 'X' the work they are doing is. I really enjoy to see good work photos, HOWEVER; the moment I see a post of LinkedIn I know it is a crap job that they are trying to hype to get people. As soon as I see MULTIPLE job post from those companies I know it is a horrible company. Even more when it is a post saying, "This is what is great about us..." I know they are lying.
This video actually prompted me to close my LinkedIn profile. Analyst, work for a government agency, been here nine years, expect to retire from this position. LinkedIn doesn't provide a service that's useful to me anymore and I don't like to leave loose ends hanging around if I can help it.
I wish some of my friends and acquaintances would read this comment. Several have created social media profiles, especially linkedin, and abandoned them for similar reasons. Makes it look like they themselves are stale.
The big red flag the candidate with the 20 page report did was even doing the report for this employer in the first place, especially if this employer was a startup. Don’t ever do free work for people like that.
I recently talked to a recruiter of a company that wanted me to do a 2 part coding assessment that will take 12 HOURS to complete. The company wanted me to complete that assessment before they looked at my resume. I indirectly told the recruiter to f*ck off and I moved on.
@@StishFicks I let one company go because they wanted me to do an automated video interview. Sorry but if you can’t devote a person’s time to me I can’t to you.
I saw the second post on my feed yesterday and I immediately noticed the 100% remote portion. If you’re needing a job that desperately then demanding 100% remote is probably not the way to go. I’ve been through a layoff and went eight weeks without a job so I do understand, but if I were a hiring manager that would not be a post that would catch my attention in a good way.
yeah. I was unemployed for 10 months last year and I had no choice but to force myself to apply for onsite positions because 100% remote always had 500-1000 applicants just to fill one freaking position!
from someone that hires, yep 100% remote and saying im desperate sounds like i don't know what pressure means because I want privileges even I have nothing to haggle with....
I can’t feasibly move across the country for a job. I apply for in person jobs in my city (Los Angeles) but obviously most jobs are elsewhere. So if a company is in SF or another state the job would have to be remote for me to take it.
Small plug for Bryan, I've taken one of his courses and it was fan freakin'-tastic. I literally had my calendar filled with 98 interview requests and I haven't applied for a job in 9 months I still get requests to talk for multi six figure jobs. Cannot recommend enough. One thing I want to add is treat your job search like a business and what I mean is don't apply positive or negative feelings to anything. Even though I got nearly 100 interview requests in a month I got a ton of rejection emails. I honestly didn't care actually wished they didn't send them so I didn't have to delete them. Great work B!
Keep a journal. A private one on local disk or even on paper. Vent there. If a lawsuit happens years later, it's helpful to have dates and names and specific events, written asap after it happened.
I'd say just don't post anything on Linked In. I can easily see someone accidentally turning off potential employers, but can't imagine attracting an employer that way.
I’m far from perfect, but one of the things I have learned is to reread what you have written before you post. If you aren’t sure - delete it. I’ve written a number of posts, gotten to the end of what I wrote and then just deleted it. I just wasn’t sure if what I wrote would be taken the way I had intended. I’d rather hold my thoughts than post something that didn’t come out right.
My big advice if you feel like you got treated unfairly or betrayed by a company that you quit or got fired and want to tell others your story without burning bridges or looking like a fool on Likendin is to wait a feel months I would say 6 months to a year is enough for the dust to settle and then post an anonymous glassdoor review about them trying to be as careful as possible with your words so it's hard for them to be 100% sure it was you.
Agreed but a few months is too long. I waited a week, then wrote a polite and thankful email to everyone. Within a few months the company was nearly gone.
Uffda, that 3rd example (of person posting rejection letter AND threat to previous employer) makes me think I understand why they were let go in the first place.
All great points. I took an administrative training program recently and one of the things emphasized was professionalism. Always maintain a respectful demeanor in your clothing choices all the way to your social media activity. You are a brand and it can be soiled so easily.
Regarding that rejection letter: the intent was nice, but it was far too wordy. They could have been more concise and still came across as appreciative and thoughtful.
I am guessing maybe the author of the letter sensed that the recipient wouldn't take it well and tried to cushion the blow. Based on the contents of the letter, that applicant probably displayed some worrying signs at some point before then
I have to admit I had some negative experiences in the info systems field. I left for about five years and have decided to re-enter, albeit in a very different path. I'm glad I didn't hang my "dirty laundry" out on LinkedIn or other media.
Thank you Brian, for this amazing advice as always! I think it’s important to add one important feature of Linked In that I’ve found myself using lately - the delete button! I’ve never posted anything as cringe as this, but sometimes we all post something against our better judgement, and I think it’s important to remember you can (and sometimes should) always delete something. Even something as small as a typo can appear unprofessional to a recruiter, so if a post isn’t up to my standards, I am not afraid to delete it. Of course with screenshotting stuff is out there forever, which is why we still need to all follow this advice. But if we make a less cringey mistake such as a typo (which happens to the best of us) I think it’s very important to remember the delete button is always an option!
Honestly, seeing these desperation posts go viral makes it tempting to do the same because it’s trendy and they receive thousands of likes & comments with support. Similar to those making the lay off posts. People should be willing to help out regardless of the reason as to why someone is looking for a job. Nobody has money to spend on all of these expensive help services. I’ve already wasted nearly $1k on a career coach and I’m not any further in my search than I was 3 months ago before hiring them. Empathy goes along way.
@@chamber1083 thank you. They gave the typical advice that most CZcamsrs will do here- networking, sending messages to recruiters & hiring managers on LinkedIn, LinkedIn optimization, mock interviews, etc. I haven’t received any messages from recruiters since having my LinkedIn “optimized”. I’ve had some luck with hiring managers. Most will accept my connection request but never respond to my follow up messages. Some will say that Human Resources will be in contact and i usually don’t make it past a phone screen for those. One of them set up a coffee chat with me. The role was placed on a hiring freeze. The hiring manager reached back out once the role was reopened so i can interview. Didn’t realize that the salary range is $30k lower than what I was previously making. Im trying everything in my power to be as proactive as possible with my search. I’m interviewing a ton and will make it to final stages but no offer yet. The career coach hasn’t helped me identify why I’m not making it past the final round and I’m now starting to doubt that I’m even qualified for the roles that I’m applying to.
as annoying as it is seeing people desperate for a job on linkedin, it's even more annoying seeing employers themselves act foolish. maybe people wouldn't need to beg for jobs if employers weren't such shit tbh
That is some absolutely great advice. My first piece of advice to friends on LinkedIn is to treat this platform as a business networking platform, not a place for inappropriate material.
Great video. Can't believe what some people post and assume it won't come back to bite them, and that even after all these years people still need to be reminded. I guess if you post knowing how it filters through feeds and will be findable, you may not care. Or it is a truer reflection of your values, than maybe 10 years ago where people did not quite get how social media worked.
We always lived this way, much hostile actually. Humans fought wars from the beginning of the species, with spears, until now, with very deadly weapons - atomic bombs and chemical weapons. What you are seeing in the social media and professional media is probably the most "soft" part of this hostility. And it will get worse, the fight for resources is fiercer each day, because we are more and more.
As someone who is changing career paths after grad school, your videos ahve helped me relieve so much job search anxiety due to the complex job market. I have recommended your channel to my student group. Have you considered doing livestream AMA with student and alumni groups on the job search process?
I'm ambivalent about your comment regarding letting recruiters find you. It sounds good on the surface but in reality, it muddies up the waters a little bit. Here's what I mean by that. I've been contacted by several recruiters but none of them has a position that I'm a good fit for. It seems like they latch unto one item in my profile and assume that makes me "qualified" for the position. Some of the recruiters don't even have a posted position that I can look at even though I always ask for that. I guess my question is, how do I get the RIGHT recruiters to contact me for positions that I'm qualified for and interested in? To date, I haven't seen anyone address this topic.
@@maryrowery80 The problem is that different companies have different titles for essentially the same job. I try to cover all of the possible titles that I'm aware of but unfortunately, that attracts interest from recruiters who are actually looking for something different than what I'm looking for. Yes, I do the same thing with skills but even some of them are known with different terminology. I just try to use the most commonly known keywords hoping that attracts what I'm looking for.
@@maryrowery80 - There are a lot of low-quality recruiters out there and those are the ones who are very desperate to fit a square peg in a round hole. If a recruiter is very young, that’s usually a warning sign.
I am friends with a head hunter that does work for a few global organizations recruiting mid to senior level talent. He mentioned to me last year that people who "whine" on LinkedIn and publish posts like you shared here are automatically blackballed from organizations. Be careful what you post on LinkedIn & social media...
Personally, my take is that an employer should expects me to fulfill my role and do it well but my motivation to do so shouldn't, in my opinion, be a factor in my employability. Of course there's going to be a financial motivation! That doesn't prevent me from having an excellent work ethic as well.
The long convoluted rejection message seems to be a new trend from organizations that are now in the business of "empathy" and "feelings". That's more passive-aggressive than empathetic. I do have to admit that I have put several comments in LinkedIn that got me muted and blocked. Unfortunately, I am in a line of work that is booming and related to learning, so the mass exodus of teacher are trying to jump in the eLearning wagon claiming to be. experts because they taught kids. Since this industry is not regulated, anyone can just state whatever they want and claim to be right, so instead of actually learning the industry, they want to present themselves as experts presenting all kinds of garbage as "frameworks" or "new standards". So I've snapped a couple of times when I see people talking out of their rear ends about what they don't know. Bashing a previous workplace or company you know is never a good thing. That says more about the person doing the bashing than about the place. The only exception that I made was when a former employer got arrested. That was publicly known, so there wasn't a way to hide it.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff why do the people in charge of hiring seem to prefer fake? I’ve been with the same employer for nearly 25 years, in large part because I don’t want to deal with the hiring process, which rewards people who are good at BSing.
As an artist, I stopped posting on LinkedIn months ago. Fighting with the algorithm, and watching my paintings reach a total of 8 people within my network of 100+. While at the same time seeing a black/white photo of a folding chair, reach 10,000 with hundreds of comments. Not worth my time being on there.
Hi Brian. I truly understand the risks of talking poorly about previous employers. However, what if you were dismissed because of sex race age etc. discrimination, workplace bullying and harassment and this went to the employment tribunal. Are you still not allowed to be honest about it to your new employer and explain to them why your previous employer wouldn’t give you a good work reference? If you win in the employment tribunal, are you still not advised to post it on LinkedIn ? Many thanks !
Too many people post shit on LinkedIn and confuse it with facebook. The girl who posted she´s eating is harmless from what i´ve seen, even yes from Employers....
@@ALifeAfterLayoff Doesn´t matter who posted it, fact is there´s a girl in the clip. So what? Fact is, few people and I`ve seen a lot of companies use it like facebook, in case you missed that point.
Current Culinary recruiter here. You don't understand culinary. That's why you dont see the value. Culinary is different than regular business. In culinary is all about the food. I;ve worked in a lot of industries and culinary is a different animal.
I appreciate you talking about these topics, even if we didn't have the ideal environment when we were a child, we still have the capacity as an adult to become grown up in our responses. It might take years personal development, affect your career, but it is still our own responsibility. I wonder how Bryan would indicate this sort of choice on a resume / linkedIn. Say to change from an IT development career to a people centric career and then have ambition to go back to IT because that is more engaging with the natural apptitude, but now with a lot more maturity?
What strikes me funny is that I abandoned social media due to others posting toxic comments. Nonetheless, poorly written letters from potential employers are a sign of poor communication skills, and I would not appreciate working for an organization such as this. As a writer who is constantly learning to write, I feel that communication skills are perhaps the most important thing in the world.
The backdooring needs to stop. It is unlawful and unethical to spread information about someone behind their back without knowing if its actually business related, a fact, or just a judgment by a shitty manager or jealous coworker. It can be done the other way and worse if they find out about the slander. Inform them about the rumors because it could all be false
It will never stop. I was meeting with a vendor some years back and, after our meeting, they asked me about a previous coworker, who had applied with them. I had to admit I thought the guy was a poor worker. He was. He was useless. That’s why we got rid of him and I saved this vendor experiencing the same. I held no grudge but the guy was useless and utterly indolent.
Example 1 also is too "emotional," negative, and slightly snarky. Plus, it's way too general--I never respond to anything that is addressed to "Everyone," "All," "Team," or no one at all.
Personally. I think This is bullshit. People need the jobs to be able to live. Doing whatever they can is not being desperate. You would feel the same if you were about to be homeless. And talking shit about bad companies should be brought up. If many people are upset over a company. It is for a reason.
Showing desperation means forfeiting some negotiating power. Any complaints about former employers should be done in anonymity via Glassdoor. People that can’t stop gossiping in public is a huge liability and risk.
There's a time and place for everything. Would you go marry a woman if she made a social media post desperately asking for a husband and children by a certain age? NO. Desperation is a turn-off in relationships just like it is in the job-seeking world. Vent to family or friends offline!
I feel this is the perfect time to say “don’t shoot the messenger”. You are free to post whatever you want on LinkedIn but you don’t get to control how other people perceive it. If you spend all of your time feeling victimized because you can’t control other the thoughts and reactions of other people, you are in for a lifetime of disappointment and destroyed relationships, and will have no one but yourself to blame in the end. Have a little self-awareness and take some responsibility for your own actions.
The first two instances, well, those reaffirm that employers are often the enemy. I couldn't shame someone who needs to put food on the table and lets people know on the job searching website. The 3rd one is weird. The 4th one, well, props to his balls and good luck booking a role.
Employers are not the enemy. No employer is under any obligation to hire someone. It's quite possible that the candidates in question are not strong candidates for the job.
@@mirzaahmed6589 the fact that they think someone who needs a job is weak does make them the enemy. If they don't fit the role, so be it, but not wanting to starve and die and saying that doesn't make you weak.
Really great video! I was thinking maybe one thing you can discuss is what to expect/how to act once you are placed on a PIP. Most jobs plan to fire you anyway, my job is actually one of the rare (so it seems) that actually go through with keeping you if you pass. Regardless, I was shocked at the sneaky ways they try to get you to quit instead of being let go at the end of the PIP in order to become ineligible for employment. Halfway through the month we had a meeting where she randomly and casually asked me how I was feeling so far and if I felt like this job was a good fit, and asked me if I felt like this job was for me. To which I said yes because if I’m going to leave this job at the very least I’m being let go. Then one day before the end of the Monday I was pulled into a random meeting and my manager said there’s only one day left, at this rate there’s no way I’d realistically reach goal by the next day, and she asked if I wanted to throw in the towel. I asked what that would mean in regards to the PIP and she said “it means you’re saying I can’t do it, this isn’t the right fit and that I’m throwing in the towel, she said there’s no shame but if I wanted to still try that’s okay too, of course I said “oh you never know! I’ve gotta try!” And you could see the disappointment she was trying to hide. Why would I ever quit one day before being let go? Anyways sorry for the rant but I had a coworker agree to “throw in the towel” one day before not knowing what it meant, so she she tried to claim unemployment she was denied due to quitting.
I’ve always tread lightly on LinkedIn. But my former boss thought it was personal social media. I cringed with every political comment she made. 😱 Anyway, I’m not using it regularly. And if/when I do, it’ll be very mitigated. Thanks for this video!
I have a colleague who makes the political post and comment once in a while on Linkedin. They are a brilliant talent enough that recruiters need to look past that. But those types of people are the minority.
You can actually find out if your getting a bad back door reference and stop them. I found out my previous employer was running her mouth and sent a cease and desist letter and cc’d the president as well as the ethics committee.
I honestly don't post on LinkedIn unless I get a certification such as CCNA or jncia lol. I don't even post on Facebook or insta and stay away from social media like the plague.
I don’t have a Facebook account. I don’t consider it to be secure. Yahoo is populated with leftists and if you post something on the Yahoo boards that doesn’t jive with their beliefs, they will either censor your post or criticize your post. I believe that Yahoo moderators have gone into my profile to get my name and age. They don’t know that I intentionally put incorrect information in my profile.
Also of note, LinkedIn is used/viewed by a lot more organizations than just employers and job seekers for employment. This could include government and private entities trying to determine exactly who you are and what you're doing.
im curious, when i get an interview is it OK to connect with the recruiter on LinkedIn or is it creepy? also, for obvious reasons they all have the LinkedIn Premium accounts--is it common if they look to see who viewed their profiles?
LinkedIn is the best before the layout become a social media alike Now is still useful (because landed on my dream job because LinkedIn), but the non-weighty motivations, utopia quotes, plentiful show off achievements/company activities/nonsense certificates are really dull I am kind of a narcissistic guy but hey there’s an instagram to show off everything over there. Being narcissistic in LinkedIn is still allright as long as not excessive.
Well I'm really curious how such a request would sound in 3rd world countries. People who really struggle to the point of survival, can they make a resume showing strength?
I just saw a recent viral desperation post by a recruiter mother who had kids to feed and would do data entry. This was not only embarassing but unnecessary. Then her LI network just ate it up.
Yes! There are TONS of 'Mommy' posts on there in general now (not just desperate ones for jobs, but a lot of virtue-signalling and humble-bragging too, seeking validation throughposing about their kids) and it seems to have inreased like crazy the last few years.
I automate most of my posts and log on once a week to check. The only people who really get something out of it are those who are happy to toe a company line, not anyone I'd like to deal with.
Do you have any advice for North Americans job candidates who are being recruited by non native English speakers for North American jobs? I've been repeatedly approached for a job on Linkedin and I did initially get an interview in December, however I had trouble understanding the interviewer and did not proceed to the next round. As the position is still open, I keep getting contacted for this job by recruiters I have trouble communicating with over the phone. I'm starting to feel a bit of resentment in being disqualified from a job I'm heavily qualified for due to a language barrier. As well, each time a new recruiter contacts me, the salary has changed/lowered by 5-10k. Sometimes they care that I've already been interviewed, sometimes they don't.
I usually avoid off-shore recruiting agencies. Almost always spammy with low-quality jobs. You have to think - a company that off-shores Talent Acquisition is doing so because they are in full cost-cutting mode and don't care about candidate experience. Is that the kind of company you want to invest your time in?
@@ALifeAfterLayoff Thank-you, you've certainly given me something to think about. I suppose I was more drawn in because the salary is almost double my highest wage, it's a faang but consultancy, and I took some personal time off during worldwide uncertainty. I don't hold a lot of cards right now. But you're right, I need to maintain my self respect. Appreciate the reminder!
Exactly. I get occasional messages from recruiters from the Philippines and India. Then once I do a phone screening with them it's a challenge due to the language barrier because I have to repeatedly ask them to repeat their questions because of their accents. But usually, they are agency recruiters looking for candidates to fill shitty contract jobs. I would just be patient and ask them to repeat themselves or ignore them if the job doesn't genuinely interest you. But on a positive note, you are getting practice for the future role you want :)
@@ALifeAfterLayoff do you have any advice where the hiring managers/department directors don't speak english as a first language? Can't speak for all science fields, but in the pharmaceutical and biotech industry, there's a good chance one or multiple people you interview with will be non-natively english speaking immigrants. You see this in academia as well. These aren't sketchy companies, offloading recruiting to offshore agencies, but rather companies looking for talent internationally to bring in money (my department head at university was some sort of government leader in the medical field in china, great mind, horrible at speaking english and teaching).
@@se2664 I'll definitely try to stretch my patience a bit. I had decided after that initial interview that I'd be better off wearing headphones for the next one. I do like the idea of this as practice. Thank-you for helping me see this in a glass is half full sort of way ;)
Explain to me this: how is a person who has been laid off in the current climate, where tons of people got laid off regardless of performance, suddenly becomes disadvantaged in the hiring process? What is the logic behind that? What is this obsession with stealing an employee whose gainfully employed elsewhere? If anything such an employee who's willing to betray their current employer and switch over to another would be a warning sign about lack of loyalty for the new employer. Whereas an employee who has been laid off, not fired, represents the actual pool of workers to choose from. He is easier to negotiate with and would be grateful if hired.
Hi Brian, love the content. Just a suggestion - some of the posts showed a portion of the avatar background or the first letter (of the author's first name or last name), and some showed what degree the author is to (presumably) you. I would suggest making sure all of that is scrubbed out.
The language used by the person who posted about "going viral and federal all at once" and threatened to put the CEO in the crosshairs reminds me of communication I've seen/heard from people on the schizophrenic/schizoaffective spectrum. The inflated idea of how persecuted he's being and of his power to expose or harm people he's angry at (delusions of grandeur) is consistent with someone who's not just evincing bad judgment about what to post, but struggling to see reality accurately. Just speaking from personal experience. If this person is dealing with mental health issues I hope they get the help they need.
Those posts are not even remotly cringeworthy as some of the posts I see pretty much everyday. I trully despise Linkedin, you can follow hashtags, but you can't blacklist any. I don't want to see dumb posts like "which UI is better", "stupid meme with over the top simplification of reality and comment of the OP - agree?". I can't stand all those positive messages, empowering women, people being over the top with the value of diversity in their company, endorsing their employer and cheering for being givien a shitty certificate of "good co-worker" that means nothing. Also, whenever any recruiter asked me if I were interested in career shift, belive me or not, I never got any real offer from those companies that tried to reach out to me. What a waste of time.
Someone claiming to be as desperate as #2 and also insisting on 100% remote work needs to wake up....especially with only 1 year of experience...stop being so picky, sunshine and show a little humility. We millennials have an awful reputation for a reason and its because of things like this.
Maybe they don't live in an area with recruitment work --and god knows most companies are too cheap to spring for relocation. 100% remote isn't unreasonable, even crap jobs can do that.
@@LARKXHIN Its not a question of if the company CAN do it...its a question of this person eliminating themselves from a bunch of jobs because they arent compromising while simultaneously claiming to be desperate. Thats nonsense.
I look at LinkedIn almost daily and I see posts that make me cringe. I'm in HR and some of these posts scream, don't hire me - I'm a whiner, hard to work with kind of person.
Yeah I don't know what's up with LinkedIn, but I'm seeing a LOT of cringy begging for work...I guess it works, but I feel like it's weird, but maybe also an indicator of the market not doing so well. Update: just saw someone lost their job on indeed, posted a pic of their dad that died a week later, then asked for a job... and added a pic of the deceased father with her two boys... how is this propaganda ok or allowed?
I wonder what is good for the 55 and over crowd looking for work. I think some companies could age discriminate and not tell you about it all. I know there was this gym I was working out at and for a long time I did not notice anybody over 50 working there. Now I think I see one lady over 50 working there. I wouldn't want to tell on them back then because if they knew that I told on them they would probably bar me from exercising there.
I’d say the first one has one more red flag you didn’t address: “your boy needs medical insurance”. Could be just a joke but at same time, I’m sure this also can flag as the person having some health problems or maybe disabilities, and of course that shouldn’t be a hiring factor but it does in a way that employer might say “so he’s just desperate to use us for the insurance”, or even worse “if he has some health problems, he might spend more time in medical leave than working” which is problematic. At least, I see that as a red flag, what you think?
The thing is, in the USA, it is literally a need for financial security because healthcare is tied to employers. Why is this a red flag? Super messed up
That one had massive red flags for me. The phrasing, especially for an HR recruiter, is unprofessional and immature. Reverse the situation. He receives a cover letter for a job he's recruiting and the individual says, "your boy needs medial insurance." Right in the bin. Even if we eliminate the desperation angle and it read, "Your boy is very adept at managing teams in high pressure environments with multiple deadlines." That's not how someone should talk/write outside of maybe Twitter. LinkedIn isn't Twitter or FaceBook, though the gap is rapidly closing. When someone doesn't understand how to communicate and they're an aspiring HR professional, I'm taking a hard pass.
@@LARKXHIN Nobody's angry about anything here. We're discussing the professionalism, or lack thereof, of LinkedIn posts. Slang and professionalism are mutually exclusive.
@@ChonnyD Unfortunately I have to break to you, USA isn't the center of the universe. And even in USA, healthcare is not something all job posts actually offer, if I'm not mistaken. A company might not want to hire someone with health issues the same way companies avoid hiring pregnant women. Is illegal to discern? Yes. Do companies care? Not much. Better not hire than hire and lose the worker a few months later due health/parental leave.
Just a list of dark feelings. 1. Recruiters, hiring managers, IF, they interview they do it only to justify their existence in front of their "bosses" 2. A sinister attitude creeped its way after 2014. Blood thirsty by seeing how many applicants are for a single job. 3. Satisfaction of laughing at those who apply and beeing rejected. 4. Cheap companies sqeezing a candidate to accept a very low offer for the specific job. 5. "Friends" show their true color in such dire times 6. Inside companies there is a blood bath amongst employees. Hence, do no talk personal stuff with your colleague. Those times are gone since 2014. Ok, ok, a reader of my lithany will say, what do you propose? My answer: Open your business, ONLY, if you have a "safety net" which is: family and/or plenty (obscenely) of saved money.
I see former co-workers people post conspiracy theories and extremist views on LinkedIn and I wonder if they realize that future employers will see these
I think if you need to tell people what to say and what not to say....thats kinda tragic for those people. LinkedIn has alot of people online complaining about their jobs or bosses or politics...its mixed with quotes about life and funny jokes. And then there are the people and companies trying to speak about the abuse of managers and bosses and how to be more open regarding autistic people for example. 2 worlds - that dont go together in my eyes. But why is there so much "nonsense" online, even on LinkedIn? Is it the people showing their real faces and cant help themselves? I bet.
6:00 WOW. But you never know, this person might be looking for a change to a 18+ kind of industry and thought LinkedIn was an appropriate place to look for it.
If I was hiring and saw the sausage post, I would assume that this woman would engage in inappropriate behavior in the workplace. Perhaps with the intention of baiting others into responding in a way that would allow her to sue for harassment.
It was posted by a man....of a girl eating a sausage.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff Damn! That's a million times worse! He's not going to file a lawsuit, he's going to trigger one.
"The lecherous woman is baiting men so she can sue them." is a very weird take.
@@LARKXHIN The world has become a very weird place. Of course, the movie "Indecent Proposal" is a take on that very idea.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff That raises the question of permission to post that from the video owner.
We aren't supposed to put profile pictures on our resumes because companies don't want to be held liable for discrimination, yet you get ruled out for not having one on LinkedIn 🤔
This just shows how they dodged anti discrimination laws. Even so, they can still discriminate after the very first interview because they can refuse to progress with your application without giving you ANY reason whatsoever, meaning they can do whatever the fuck they like :D
Only in the US. LinkedIn ist global though…
I've always thought that this was a weird contradiction. But LinkedIn is also about networking so it's good to know you are connecting with a real person by seeing your face. BTW In some countries it is standard to have a picture on your resume.
Sadly the whole networking and recruitment side is filled with inconsistencies.
Everyone in other countries outside of US always tells me that photos are required on resumes everywhere else. It’s so different in different countries.
While all of this is certainly sage advice, I personally really wish LinkedIn wasn't basically mandatory for a professional career in the 21st century
LinkedIn is just another horrible social politics site. I get so tired of seeing sales posting how 'X' the work they are doing is. I really enjoy to see good work photos, HOWEVER; the moment I see a post of LinkedIn I know it is a crap job that they are trying to hype to get people. As soon as I see MULTIPLE job post from those companies I know it is a horrible company. Even more when it is a post saying, "This is what is great about us..." I know they are lying.
It's not
I don’t have a LinkedIn and I’m doing just fine
Dont need it
@@RedZ1900 for frontline, typically not necessary. moving up to management, not so.
This video actually prompted me to close my LinkedIn profile. Analyst, work for a government agency, been here nine years, expect to retire from this position. LinkedIn doesn't provide a service that's useful to me anymore and I don't like to leave loose ends hanging around if I can help it.
I wish some of my friends and acquaintances would read this comment. Several have created social media profiles, especially linkedin, and abandoned them for similar reasons. Makes it look like they themselves are stale.
@A random person so you're in Asset Recovery😉
The big red flag the candidate with the 20 page report did was even doing the report for this employer in the first place, especially if this employer was a startup. Don’t ever do free work for people like that.
Honestly expected the misstep to be them just posting the document for free online lol
I recently talked to a recruiter of a company that wanted me to do a 2 part coding assessment that will take 12 HOURS to complete. The company wanted me to complete that assessment before they looked at my resume. I indirectly told the recruiter to f*ck off and I moved on.
@@StishFicks - Yeah, I don’t take coding assessment tests.
@@picklerix6162 Yeah, I only do coding assignments in person now, with the person doing the assessment, as a rule.
@@StishFicks I let one company go because they wanted me to do an automated video interview. Sorry but if you can’t devote a person’s time to me I can’t to you.
Great points. I also think publishing desperation also opens the door for potential employers to propose low-ball offers.
100%.
And it invites scammers as well. And a bunch of pathetic MLMs
@@se2664 absolutely!
@@se2664 you basically repeated yourself🤣
@@thebestcentaur Thank you for calling MLM's exactly what they are, lol.
I saw the second post on my feed yesterday and I immediately noticed the 100% remote portion. If you’re needing a job that desperately then demanding 100% remote is probably not the way to go. I’ve been through a layoff and went eight weeks without a job so I do understand, but if I were a hiring manager that would not be a post that would catch my attention in a good way.
yeah. I was unemployed for 10 months last year and I had no choice but to force myself to apply for onsite positions because 100% remote always had 500-1000 applicants just to fill one freaking position!
from someone that hires, yep 100% remote and saying im desperate sounds like i don't know what pressure means because I want privileges even I have nothing to haggle with....
I can’t feasibly move across the country for a job. I apply for in person jobs in my city (Los Angeles) but obviously most jobs are elsewhere. So if a company is in SF or another state the job would have to be remote for me to take it.
All of my former classmates are making posts like it and I'm just like nooo don't do that..
Small plug for Bryan, I've taken one of his courses and it was fan freakin'-tastic. I literally had my calendar filled with 98 interview requests and I haven't applied for a job in 9 months I still get requests to talk for multi six figure jobs. Cannot recommend enough. One thing I want to add is treat your job search like a business and what I mean is don't apply positive or negative feelings to anything. Even though I got nearly 100 interview requests in a month I got a ton of rejection emails. I honestly didn't care actually wished they didn't send them so I didn't have to delete them. Great work B!
I’ve struggled with trying to be positive all the time on LinkedIn, especially when the workplace is all but positive all the time.
yep one of the things I hate about Linkedin is all the fake positivity lol
Keep a journal. A private one on local disk or even on paper. Vent there. If a lawsuit happens years later, it's helpful to have dates and names and specific events, written asap after it happened.
I'd say just don't post anything on Linked In.
I can easily see someone accidentally turning off potential employers, but can't imagine attracting an employer that way.
I’m far from perfect, but one of the things I have learned is to reread what you have written before you post. If you aren’t sure - delete it. I’ve written a number of posts, gotten to the end of what I wrote and then just deleted it. I just wasn’t sure if what I wrote would be taken the way I had intended. I’d rather hold my thoughts than post something that didn’t come out right.
My big advice if you feel like you got treated unfairly or betrayed by a company that you quit or got fired and want to tell others your story without burning bridges or looking like a fool on Likendin is to wait a feel months I would say 6 months to a year is enough for the dust to settle and then post an anonymous glassdoor review about them trying to be as careful as possible with your words so it's hard for them to be 100% sure it was you.
Agreed but a few months is too long. I waited a week, then wrote a polite and thankful email to everyone. Within a few months the company was nearly gone.
Uffda, that 3rd example (of person posting rejection letter AND threat to previous employer) makes me think I understand why they were let go in the first place.
Let’s stay away from the sobriety celebrations on LinkedIn too. I strongly believe that it’s over sharing.
That kind of I do you should not put on social media.
All great points. I took an administrative training program recently and one of the things emphasized was professionalism. Always maintain a respectful demeanor in your clothing choices all the way to your social media activity. You are a brand and it can be soiled so easily.
Regarding that rejection letter: the intent was nice, but it was far too wordy. They could have been more concise and still came across as appreciative and thoughtful.
I am guessing maybe the author of the letter sensed that the recipient wouldn't take it well and tried to cushion the blow. Based on the contents of the letter, that applicant probably displayed some worrying signs at some point before then
I have to admit I had some negative experiences in the info systems field. I left for about five years and have decided to re-enter, albeit in a very different path. I'm glad I didn't hang my "dirty laundry" out on LinkedIn or other media.
Thank you Brian, for this amazing advice as always!
I think it’s important to add one important feature of Linked In that I’ve found myself using lately - the delete button! I’ve never posted anything as cringe as this, but sometimes we all post something against our better judgement, and I think it’s important to remember you can (and sometimes should) always delete something. Even something as small as a typo can appear unprofessional to a recruiter, so if a post isn’t up to my standards, I am not afraid to delete it. Of course with screenshotting stuff is out there forever, which is why we still need to all follow this advice. But if we make a less cringey mistake such as a typo (which happens to the best of us) I think it’s very important to remember the delete button is always an option!
Honestly, seeing these desperation posts go viral makes it tempting to do the same because it’s trendy and they receive thousands of likes & comments with support. Similar to those making the lay off posts. People should be willing to help out regardless of the reason as to why someone is looking for a job. Nobody has money to spend on all of these expensive help services. I’ve already wasted nearly $1k on a career coach and I’m not any further in my search than I was 3 months ago before hiring them. Empathy goes along way.
Hey CAT that sounds horrible. I hope you land something soon. Where advice did the career coach give you and how do you think they dropped the ball?
@@chamber1083 thank you. They gave the typical advice that most CZcamsrs will do here- networking, sending messages to recruiters & hiring managers on LinkedIn, LinkedIn optimization, mock interviews, etc. I haven’t received any messages from recruiters since having my LinkedIn “optimized”. I’ve had some luck with hiring managers. Most will accept my connection request but never respond to my follow up messages. Some will say that Human Resources will be in contact and i usually don’t make it past a phone screen for those. One of them set up a coffee chat with me. The role was placed on a hiring freeze. The hiring manager reached back out once the role was reopened so i can interview. Didn’t realize that the salary range is $30k lower than what I was previously making. Im trying everything in my power to be as proactive as possible with my search. I’m interviewing a ton and will make it to final stages but no offer yet. The career coach hasn’t helped me identify why I’m not making it past the final round and I’m now starting to doubt that I’m even qualified for the roles that I’m applying to.
as annoying as it is seeing people desperate for a job on linkedin, it's even more annoying seeing employers themselves act foolish. maybe people wouldn't need to beg for jobs if employers weren't such shit tbh
LinkedIn is literally designed for people who are likely desperate for a job. It’s almost the ENTIRE point.
That is some absolutely great advice. My first piece of advice to friends on LinkedIn is to treat this platform as a business networking platform, not a place for inappropriate material.
Dude went all out and made a 20 page report, and his only reward is a slap across the face 😅
Great video. Can't believe what some people post and assume it won't come back to bite them, and that even after all these years people still need to be reminded. I guess if you post knowing how it filters through feeds and will be findable, you may not care. Or it is a truer reflection of your values, than maybe 10 years ago where people did not quite get how social media worked.
This video proves that we live in a VERY HOSTILE environment.
Not to mention a very narcissistic one!
We always lived this way, much hostile actually. Humans fought wars from the beginning of the species, with spears, until now, with very deadly weapons - atomic bombs and chemical weapons. What you are seeing in the social media and professional media is probably the most "soft" part of this hostility. And it will get worse, the fight for resources is fiercer each day, because we are more and more.
As someone who is changing career paths after grad school, your videos ahve helped me relieve so much job search anxiety due to the complex job market. I have recommended your channel to my student group. Have you considered doing livestream AMA with student and alumni groups on the job search process?
I'm ambivalent about your comment regarding letting recruiters find you. It sounds good on the surface but in reality, it muddies up the waters a little bit. Here's what I mean by that. I've been contacted by several recruiters but none of them has a position that I'm a good fit for. It seems like they latch unto one item in my profile and assume that makes me "qualified" for the position. Some of the recruiters don't even have a posted position that I can look at even though I always ask for that. I guess my question is, how do I get the RIGHT recruiters to contact me for positions that I'm qualified for and interested in? To date, I haven't seen anyone address this topic.
You need to include right key words,skills,job titles in your profile
@@maryrowery80 The problem is that different companies have different titles for essentially the same job. I try to cover all of the possible titles that I'm aware of but unfortunately, that attracts interest from recruiters who are actually looking for something different than what I'm looking for. Yes, I do the same thing with skills but even some of them are known with different terminology. I just try to use the most commonly known keywords hoping that attracts what I'm looking for.
@@maryrowery80 - There are a lot of low-quality recruiters out there and those are the ones who are very desperate to fit a square peg in a round hole. If a recruiter is very young, that’s usually a warning sign.
I am friends with a head hunter that does work for a few global organizations recruiting mid to senior level talent. He mentioned to me last year that people who "whine" on LinkedIn and publish posts like you shared here are automatically blackballed from organizations. Be careful what you post on LinkedIn & social media...
Sounds like that organization doesn't have empathy and is best avoided.
@@LARKXHIN Empathy in an organization?! Are you serious?! *lmao*
Good tip.
Personally, my take is that an employer should expects me to fulfill my role and do it well but my motivation to do so shouldn't, in my opinion, be a factor in my employability. Of course there's going to be a financial motivation! That doesn't prevent me from having an excellent work ethic as well.
Can you do a video on spotting fake Linkedin accounts?
The long convoluted rejection message seems to be a new trend from organizations that are now in the business of "empathy" and "feelings". That's more passive-aggressive than empathetic.
I do have to admit that I have put several comments in LinkedIn that got me muted and blocked. Unfortunately, I am in a line of work that is booming and related to learning, so the mass exodus of teacher are trying to jump in the eLearning wagon claiming to be. experts because they taught kids. Since this industry is not regulated, anyone can just state whatever they want and claim to be right, so instead of actually learning the industry, they want to present themselves as experts presenting all kinds of garbage as "frameworks" or "new standards". So I've snapped a couple of times when I see people talking out of their rear ends about what they don't know.
Bashing a previous workplace or company you know is never a good thing. That says more about the person doing the bashing than about the place. The only exception that I made was when a former employer got arrested. That was publicly known, so there wasn't a way to hide it.
LinkedIn: Like Facebook, but boring and fake.
There's definitely a fakeness to it.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff why do the people in charge of hiring seem to prefer fake? I’ve been with the same employer for nearly 25 years, in large part because I don’t want to deal with the hiring process, which rewards people who are good at BSing.
Facebook is the king of fakeness!!
Dying at Bryan being like "dont @ me" at 10:25! 😂Fair enough.
7:54 were very respectful denial imho. No reason to go all ballistic like that😂
As an artist, I stopped posting on LinkedIn months ago. Fighting with the algorithm, and watching my paintings reach a total of 8 people within my network of 100+. While at the same time seeing a black/white photo of a folding chair, reach 10,000 with hundreds of comments. Not worth my time being on there.
Hi Brian. I truly understand the risks of talking poorly about previous employers. However, what if you were dismissed because of sex race age etc. discrimination, workplace bullying and harassment and this went to the employment tribunal. Are you still not allowed to be honest about it to your new employer and explain to them why your previous employer wouldn’t give you a good work reference? If you win in the employment tribunal, are you still not advised to post it on LinkedIn ? Many thanks !
Employers will hire you to solve their problems. Not to solve your problem. At the end is
"What you can do for them." And "At what cost". That's it.
Ugh, I was hoping you’d call out the bragging posts. If there were few of them I’d be fine, but they fill up half my feed!
Bragging about what?
So much of this is simple common sense. However angry you are when you sit down to write, ask yourself if it's really worth it.
Too many people post shit on LinkedIn and confuse it with facebook. The girl who posted she´s eating is harmless from what i´ve seen, even yes from Employers....
It was posted by a man....of a girl eating a sausage.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff Doesn´t matter who posted it, fact is there´s a girl in the clip. So what? Fact is, few people and I`ve seen a lot of companies use it like facebook, in case you missed that point.
Current Culinary recruiter here. You don't understand culinary. That's why you dont see the value. Culinary is different than regular business. In culinary is all about the food. I;ve worked in a lot of industries and culinary is a different animal.
True that.
I appreciate you talking about these topics, even if we didn't have the ideal environment when we were a child, we still have the capacity as an adult to become grown up in our responses. It might take years personal development, affect your career, but it is still our own responsibility.
I wonder how Bryan would indicate this sort of choice on a resume / linkedIn. Say to change from an IT development career to a people centric career and then have ambition to go back to IT because that is more engaging with the natural apptitude, but now with a lot more maturity?
What strikes me funny is that I abandoned social media due to others posting toxic comments. Nonetheless, poorly written letters from potential employers are a sign of poor communication skills, and I would not appreciate working for an organization such as this. As a writer who is constantly learning to write, I feel that communication skills are perhaps the most important thing in the world.
I 💯 agree.
One reason I hardly post anything online. I don't even like Social media period.
Always enjoy these videos thanks for sharing!
Thank you so, so much for this video. This is really helpful as it will get me to think twice about what I post.
The backdooring needs to stop. It is unlawful and unethical to spread information about someone behind their back without knowing if its actually business related, a fact, or just a judgment by a shitty manager or jealous coworker. It can be done the other way and worse if they find out about the slander. Inform them about the rumors because it could all be false
It will never stop.
I was meeting with a vendor some years back and, after our meeting, they asked me about a previous coworker, who had applied with them. I had to admit I thought the guy was a poor worker. He was. He was useless. That’s why we got rid of him and I saved this vendor experiencing the same. I held no grudge but the guy was useless and utterly indolent.
Example 1 also is too "emotional," negative, and slightly snarky. Plus, it's way too general--I never respond to anything that is addressed to "Everyone," "All," "Team," or no one at all.
You didn't call out my random LinkedIn posts of my photography. Phew!
Personally. I think This is bullshit. People need the jobs to be able to live. Doing whatever they can is not being desperate. You would feel the same if you were about to be homeless. And talking shit about bad companies should be brought up. If many people are upset over a company. It is for a reason.
Personally. LinkedIn never helped me at all. I found jobs that hired me on other sites but not in Linkedin. Linkedin is Overrated
Showing desperation means forfeiting some negotiating power.
Any complaints about former employers should be done in anonymity via Glassdoor. People that can’t stop gossiping in public is a huge liability and risk.
There's a time and place for everything. Would you go marry a woman if she made a social media post desperately asking for a husband and children by a certain age? NO. Desperation is a turn-off in relationships just like it is in the job-seeking world. Vent to family or friends offline!
I feel this is the perfect time to say “don’t shoot the messenger”. You are free to post whatever you want on LinkedIn but you don’t get to control how other people perceive it. If you spend all of your time feeling victimized because you can’t control other the thoughts and reactions of other people, you are in for a lifetime of disappointment and destroyed relationships, and will have no one but yourself to blame in the end. Have a little self-awareness and take some responsibility for your own actions.
@@se2664 Idk ask my girlfriend. I mean your wife.
The first two instances, well, those reaffirm that employers are often the enemy. I couldn't shame someone who needs to put food on the table and lets people know on the job searching website.
The 3rd one is weird.
The 4th one, well, props to his balls and good luck booking a role.
Employers are not the enemy. No employer is under any obligation to hire someone. It's quite possible that the candidates in question are not strong candidates for the job.
@@mirzaahmed6589 the fact that they think someone who needs a job is weak does make them the enemy. If they don't fit the role, so be it, but not wanting to starve and die and saying that doesn't make you weak.
Really great video! I was thinking maybe one thing you can discuss is what to expect/how to act once you are placed on a PIP. Most jobs plan to fire you anyway, my job is actually one of the rare (so it seems) that actually go through with keeping you if you pass. Regardless, I was shocked at the sneaky ways they try to get you to quit instead of being let go at the end of the PIP in order to become ineligible for employment.
Halfway through the month we had a meeting where she randomly and casually asked me how I was feeling so far and if I felt like this job was a good fit, and asked me if I felt like this job was for me. To which I said yes because if I’m going to leave this job at the very least I’m being let go.
Then one day before the end of the Monday I was pulled into a random meeting and my manager said there’s only one day left, at this rate there’s no way I’d realistically reach goal by the next day, and she asked if I wanted to throw in the towel. I asked what that would mean in regards to the PIP and she said “it means you’re saying I can’t do it, this isn’t the right fit and that I’m throwing in the towel, she said there’s no shame but if I wanted to still try that’s okay too, of course I said “oh you never know! I’ve gotta try!” And you could see the disappointment she was trying to hide. Why would I ever quit one day before being let go?
Anyways sorry for the rant but I had a coworker agree to “throw in the towel” one day before not knowing what it meant, so she she tried to claim unemployment she was denied due to quitting.
PIP 100% of the time means you will be fired. If you quit you don't get unemployment.
I’ve always tread lightly on LinkedIn. But my former boss thought it was personal social media. I cringed with every political comment she made. 😱 Anyway, I’m not using it regularly. And if/when I do, it’ll be very mitigated. Thanks for this video!
I have a colleague who makes the political post and comment once in a while on Linkedin. They are a brilliant talent enough that recruiters need to look past that. But those types of people are the minority.
Political posts are frowned upon on LinkedIn but that doesn’t prevent the wokesters from posting.
You can actually find out if your getting a bad back door reference and stop them. I found out my previous employer was running her mouth and sent a cease and desist letter and cc’d the president as well as the ethics committee.
Very helpful video-thank you for your insightful tips! 😊
I honestly don't post on LinkedIn unless I get a certification such as CCNA or jncia lol. I don't even post on Facebook or insta and stay away from social media like the plague.
I don’t have a Facebook account. I don’t consider it to be secure. Yahoo is populated with leftists and if you post something on the Yahoo boards that doesn’t jive with their beliefs, they will either censor your post or criticize your post. I believe that Yahoo moderators have gone into my profile to get my name and age. They don’t know that I intentionally put incorrect information in my profile.
Also of note, LinkedIn is used/viewed by a lot more organizations than just employers and job seekers for employment. This could include government and private entities trying to determine exactly who you are and what you're doing.
I deleted linked in.
Me too.
It's where a VAST majority of recruiters recruit. You may be missing out on opportunities.
Never used it. Never will.
Me too.
Why?
im curious, when i get an interview is it OK to connect with the recruiter on LinkedIn or is it creepy?
also, for obvious reasons they all have the LinkedIn Premium accounts--is it common if they look to see who viewed their profiles?
Not creepy 😊 and yes, they can see who view their profiles, the more the better
5:58 and before getting into any large debt, ensure you have enough savings to cover your payments on a long stint without income.
LinkedIn is the best before the layout become a social media alike
Now is still useful (because landed on my dream job because LinkedIn), but the non-weighty motivations, utopia quotes, plentiful show off achievements/company activities/nonsense certificates are really dull
I am kind of a narcissistic guy but hey there’s an instagram to show off everything over there. Being narcissistic in LinkedIn is still allright as long as not excessive.
It is really bad to see, when someone tags us in their own issues, and then pull us into it. People tend to lose the original meaning.
wow! I saw a fellow salesforce developer there!
Well I'm really curious how such a request would sound in 3rd world countries. People who really struggle to the point of survival, can they make a resume showing strength?
The example No2 is interesting. He posts the same post every day and is doing that for weeks, now.
I just saw a recent viral desperation post by a recruiter mother who had kids to feed and would do data entry. This was not only embarassing but unnecessary. Then her LI network just ate it up.
Yes! There are TONS of 'Mommy' posts on there in general now (not just desperate ones for jobs, but a lot of virtue-signalling and humble-bragging too, seeking validation throughposing about their kids) and it seems to have inreased like crazy the last few years.
In short, don’t post anything on LinkedIn. Using it frequently does more harm than good. Only use it for job applications.
I would not agree with this assessment.
I automate most of my posts and log on once a week to check. The only people who really get something out of it are those who are happy to toe a company line, not anyone I'd like to deal with.
Is it proper to post letters of reference in your resume on LinkedIn? Does this show desperation?
I'm not sure it shows desperation - but it won't likely help your search.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff Thanks for the response.
Do you have any advice for North Americans job candidates who are being recruited by non native English speakers for North American jobs?
I've been repeatedly approached for a job on Linkedin and I did initially get an interview in December, however I had trouble understanding the interviewer and did not proceed to the next round. As the position is still open, I keep getting contacted for this job by recruiters I have trouble communicating with over the phone.
I'm starting to feel a bit of resentment in being disqualified from a job I'm heavily qualified for due to a language barrier. As well, each time a new recruiter contacts me, the salary has changed/lowered by 5-10k. Sometimes they care that I've already been interviewed, sometimes they don't.
I usually avoid off-shore recruiting agencies. Almost always spammy with low-quality jobs. You have to think - a company that off-shores Talent Acquisition is doing so because they are in full cost-cutting mode and don't care about candidate experience. Is that the kind of company you want to invest your time in?
@@ALifeAfterLayoff Thank-you, you've certainly given me something to think about.
I suppose I was more drawn in because the salary is almost double my highest wage, it's a faang but consultancy, and I took some personal time off during worldwide uncertainty.
I don't hold a lot of cards right now. But you're right, I need to maintain my self respect. Appreciate the reminder!
Exactly. I get occasional messages from recruiters from the Philippines and India. Then once I do a phone screening with them it's a challenge due to the language barrier because I have to repeatedly ask them to repeat their questions because of their accents. But usually, they are agency recruiters looking for candidates to fill shitty contract jobs. I would just be patient and ask them to repeat themselves or ignore them if the job doesn't genuinely interest you. But on a positive note, you are getting practice for the future role you want :)
@@ALifeAfterLayoff do you have any advice where the hiring managers/department directors don't speak english as a first language? Can't speak for all science fields, but in the pharmaceutical and biotech industry, there's a good chance one or multiple people you interview with will be non-natively english speaking immigrants. You see this in academia as well. These aren't sketchy companies, offloading recruiting to offshore agencies, but rather companies looking for talent internationally to bring in money (my department head at university was some sort of government leader in the medical field in china, great mind, horrible at speaking english and teaching).
@@se2664 I'll definitely try to stretch my patience a bit. I had decided after that initial interview that I'd be better off wearing headphones for the next one. I do like the idea of this as practice. Thank-you for helping me see this in a glass is half full sort of way ;)
Explain to me this: how is a person who has been laid off in the current climate, where tons of people got laid off regardless of performance, suddenly becomes disadvantaged in the hiring process? What is the logic behind that? What is this obsession with stealing an employee whose gainfully employed elsewhere? If anything such an employee who's willing to betray their current employer and switch over to another would be a warning sign about lack of loyalty for the new employer. Whereas an employee who has been laid off, not fired, represents the actual pool of workers to choose from. He is easier to negotiate with and would be grateful if hired.
Id say example 4 would be better sent to Joshua Fluke. That guy has no problem tearing companies and CEOs a new one for crappy practices.
Hi Brian, love the content. Just a suggestion - some of the posts showed a portion of the avatar background or the first letter (of the author's first name or last name), and some showed what degree the author is to (presumably) you. I would suggest making sure all of that is scrubbed out.
Don't be messy on Main.
If I was a boss or a hiring manager I would just laugh
The language used by the person who posted about "going viral and federal all at once" and threatened to put the CEO in the crosshairs reminds me of communication I've seen/heard from people on the schizophrenic/schizoaffective spectrum. The inflated idea of how persecuted he's being and of his power to expose or harm people he's angry at (delusions of grandeur) is consistent with someone who's not just evincing bad judgment about what to post, but struggling to see reality accurately. Just speaking from personal experience. If this person is dealing with mental health issues I hope they get the help they need.
I refuse to use it
is anyone else having issues with Linkedin lately, access, restrictions? it seems to be affecting overseas peers, but I am based in US. weird
Those posts are not even remotly cringeworthy as some of the posts I see pretty much everyday. I trully despise Linkedin, you can follow hashtags, but you can't blacklist any. I don't want to see dumb posts like "which UI is better", "stupid meme with over the top simplification of reality and comment of the OP - agree?". I can't stand all those positive messages, empowering women, people being over the top with the value of diversity in their company, endorsing their employer and cheering for being givien a shitty certificate of "good co-worker" that means nothing. Also, whenever any recruiter asked me if I were interested in career shift, belive me or not, I never got any real offer from those companies that tried to reach out to me. What a waste of time.
What industry are you in?
useful vid on how to use l'in
Glad it was helpful!
Nothing says, "I really want to hire that person" like seeing the person badmouthing and threatening prior employers online!
How may I contact your organization to assist in getting hired?
You can reach me through my website - www.alifeafterlayoff.com
Is desperation bad?
Someone claiming to be as desperate as #2 and also insisting on 100% remote work needs to wake up....especially with only 1 year of experience...stop being so picky, sunshine and show a little humility. We millennials have an awful reputation for a reason and its because of things like this.
Maybe they don't live in an area with recruitment work --and god knows most companies are too cheap to spring for relocation.
100% remote isn't unreasonable, even crap jobs can do that.
@@LARKXHIN Its not a question of if the company CAN do it...its a question of this person eliminating themselves from a bunch of jobs because they arent compromising while simultaneously claiming to be desperate. Thats nonsense.
I look at LinkedIn almost daily and I see posts that make me cringe. I'm in HR and some of these posts scream, don't hire me - I'm a whiner, hard to work with kind of person.
Yeah I don't know what's up with LinkedIn, but I'm seeing a LOT of cringy begging for work...I guess it works, but I feel like it's weird, but maybe also an indicator of the market not doing so well. Update: just saw someone lost their job on indeed, posted a pic of their dad that died a week later, then asked for a job... and added a pic of the deceased father with her two boys... how is this propaganda ok or allowed?
I wonder what is good for the 55 and over crowd looking for work. I think some companies could age discriminate and not tell you about it all. I know there was this gym I was working out at and for a long time I did not notice anybody over 50 working there. Now I think I see one lady over 50 working there. I wouldn't want to tell on them back then because if they knew that I told on them they would probably bar me from exercising there.
Just because there is no one over 50 working there doesn't mean they discriminate. It could just be that not many older employees apply.
I’d say the first one has one more red flag you didn’t address: “your boy needs medical insurance”.
Could be just a joke but at same time, I’m sure this also can flag as the person having some health problems or maybe disabilities, and of course that shouldn’t be a hiring factor but it does in a way that employer might say “so he’s just desperate to use us for the insurance”, or even worse “if he has some health problems, he might spend more time in medical leave than working” which is problematic.
At least, I see that as a red flag, what you think?
The thing is, in the USA, it is literally a need for financial security because healthcare is tied to employers. Why is this a red flag? Super messed up
That one had massive red flags for me. The phrasing, especially for an HR recruiter, is unprofessional and immature. Reverse the situation. He receives a cover letter for a job he's recruiting and the individual says, "your boy needs medial insurance." Right in the bin. Even if we eliminate the desperation angle and it read, "Your boy is very adept at managing teams in high pressure environments with multiple deadlines." That's not how someone should talk/write outside of maybe Twitter. LinkedIn isn't Twitter or FaceBook, though the gap is rapidly closing. When someone doesn't understand how to communicate and they're an aspiring HR professional, I'm taking a hard pass.
@@67L48 that's probably the least offensive slang. It's not ideal but I wouldn't be angry about it.
@@LARKXHIN Nobody's angry about anything here. We're discussing the professionalism, or lack thereof, of LinkedIn posts. Slang and professionalism are mutually exclusive.
@@ChonnyD Unfortunately I have to break to you, USA isn't the center of the universe. And even in USA, healthcare is not something all job posts actually offer, if I'm not mistaken.
A company might not want to hire someone with health issues the same way companies avoid hiring pregnant women. Is illegal to discern? Yes. Do companies care? Not much. Better not hire than hire and lose the worker a few months later due health/parental leave.
I think you should say whatever you want. If it puts people off hiring you, you dodged working for a company with poor values.
Sausage post originally from Tiktok. Enough said.
Just a list of dark feelings.
1. Recruiters, hiring managers, IF, they interview they do it only to justify their existence in front of their "bosses"
2. A sinister attitude creeped its way after 2014. Blood thirsty by seeing how many applicants are for a single job.
3. Satisfaction of laughing at those who apply and beeing rejected.
4. Cheap companies sqeezing a candidate to accept a very low offer for the specific job.
5. "Friends" show their true color in such dire times
6. Inside companies there is a blood bath amongst employees. Hence, do no talk personal stuff with your colleague. Those times are gone since 2014.
Ok, ok, a reader of my lithany will say, what do you propose?
My answer: Open your business, ONLY, if you have a "safety net" which is: family and/or plenty (obscenely) of saved money.
LinkedIn is full of trashy, political or devisive posts now. I see it going the way of FB.
Guys be careful what you post on Linked In. You see some weird stuff on there.
Hilarious to me that example #2 is so desperate but is only open to 100% remote opportunities...
I consider myself insanely lucky that I'm in an apartment that my parents own, so I can't be kicked out.
Uhh. Haven’t u seen the guy whose parents took him to court to get out of their house? U can always be kicked out
Hope you're having fun being creative and drumming up passive income projects!
Grow up and make it in the real world.
@@csc1641 Psychological projection isn't going to help you... try, try again.
@@mustangnawt1 Luckily, my parents are the supportive kind and would never do that.
@6:05 Read in the voice of a Karen from Walmart
I see former co-workers people post conspiracy theories and extremist views on LinkedIn and I wonder if they realize that future employers will see these
I think if you need to tell people what to say and what not to say....thats kinda tragic for those people.
LinkedIn has alot of people online complaining about their jobs or bosses or politics...its mixed with quotes about life and funny jokes. And then there are the people and companies trying to speak about the abuse of managers and bosses and how to be more open regarding autistic people for example. 2 worlds - that dont go together in my eyes.
But why is there so much "nonsense" online, even on LinkedIn? Is it the people showing their real faces and cant help themselves?
I bet.
6:00 WOW. But you never know, this person might be looking for a change to a 18+ kind of industry and thought LinkedIn was an appropriate place to look for it.
The second example???? Why would someone post that on LinkedIn 🤦🏻♀️ lol
Do you mean like some politician comments?
Mmm 🤔