Makita 36V 305mm Mitre Saw DLS211 : 12-in SCMS AWS Brushless 18V X 2 (2019)
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- čas přidán 12. 10. 2019
- oztooltalk have a thorough look at Makita's great cordless mitre saw yet, the DLS211.
It's a big saw packing a full 305mm / 12-in blade. It uses two 18V batteries to power its significant brushless motor.
This saw does everything: bluetooth activation of dust extraction, compound cuts both left and right, compact sliding rails, enormous cut capacity. It has oodles of power and feels lovely to use.
So what's the downside? 31kg and AU$1200 as a skin. Is it worth the investment? Watch the video to find out!
Thank you for posting!!! Right around 10:00 where you pull the tab to allow the saw to move to the left, you've made my day! Couldn't find clear instructions anywhere else... spinning my wheels for over an hour. thanks for posting!!! :D
Great review guys! Pretty sure the positive lock pin at the back can be turned 90 degrees to stop it locking at the common angles when tilting the saw. Also the clamp does have a quick release component built in when you twist it counter clockwise. Ive owned the 10 inch for almost 2 years now, not perfect, but a great saw.
I’ve been researching this model for over a month, albeit the electric model. I’ve seen so many videos and even tried to visit brick and mortar stores, which none seemed to carry, to get an idea of all the features available. Your video was the most thorough and descriptive yet, going back years of footage. You, gentlemen, had the only vIdeo that touched on the one thing I found elusive that I needed to know for myself: the trenching feature! I never knew if this model included it, and most videos never really show the saw close up from all angles. So thank you guys for the detailed review of all aspects the saw is capable of. I now can make a more educated guess as to purchasing this saw sight unseen, due to this video alone. Keep up the good work guys !!!
I bought this saw about 2 weeks ago. The American version. 12" 36v with aws. By far the best and most accurate saw I have ever used, PEDIOD. I replaced my DW718. I'm a trim carpenter so I spend a lot of time at the miter saw. I will say the battery life doesnt seem as good as advertised though. I got mine for 844 with tax. The aws transmitter is sold separately. Got that on Amazon for around 50 bucks
Good to know that it has a carpenter’s recommendation. I’ve been hemming and hawwing about purchasing it. I should just do it. Buy once, cry once!!!!
Thanks mate, glad we hit the points you were looking for !🙌🏻 (mike)
Makita hit the ball out the park with this one....the feel and build and design is the best ive ever felt....dreaming of one ...one day.
Great review on the mitre saw there guys.
As a matter of fact I own this saw's little brother, the DLS111. The trick with the fences is,......just swop them out when you need more room to perform compound cuts.
An other thing that might be handy to know about this fences is this; left and right of the bed of the saw are extenders which you can use to support the wood. When you slide these out you can clip each of the fences to one of the rods that become visible. That way you won't misplace the fences.
I use my mitre saw with a vacuum with the AWS and it works like a charm,......very, very happy with it.
Nice review. Dust management looks good with BT. Only gripe is the Makita slide rails rust easily and the fence tend to be a weak point when you get a jamb up of timber and blow out the back and bust through the fence, especially when ripping.
You would need to fulfil a lot of criteria to need this. Nonetheless it is the creme de la creme of 12" portable.
In the UK where we are 240v for domestic work so you could run a 25m extension lead to a mains powered saw and still get the full power of the saw.
110v on site with extension leads you always lose the raw power of the big mains powered saws due to the power being split everywhere and long 110v cables.
There 10" and even 8" are good fits for on site where you don't need that huge cutting capacity.
Great job as always guys!
Just waiting for that new battery framing nailer!
cheer Ryan!
Great review guys ,btw ,I have been doing framing and fixouts for thirty years with the original 210mm ELU sliding compound saw ,there's not much I can't do with it ,it is light and still cuts perfect ,if I need cordless I will get the Dewalt 210mm saw ,which is virtually the same . I have used these big 12" saws that workmates have sometimes but find them heavy and awkward especially if constantly shifting and you seem to need a proprietary saw stand or heavy planks to set them up,whereas the ELU and other smaller saws only need a couple of studs put on some sawstools ,sometimes less is more as they say lol.
cheers man, good feedback. We're on the same page [Dwain]
Def seems like a sweet saw! And i think the price is quite decent too. No one buys a saw like that for lols. You buy it because you need one that big. Same with runtime, i havent cared about the runtime of tools for ages. Got more batteries than i know what to do with from combo kits i bought when it was cheaper to buy that way vs couple of skins etc. And i would imagine that would be the case for fair percentage of tradies looking at this type of saw.
Yeah fair enough Colinputer.. I don't think you'd be alone in that scenario/opinion! Thanks. [Dwain]
can anybody tell me what is the base size, meaning left to right and front to back? of this 12inch makita miter saw? thanks!
Looks like a very good quality tool, I like the slider being inside the tool size as it were. So you don't have the bars out back. Easy idea instead of the expensive Bosch link arm idea.
Yeah I love the front sliding bars too...
I just assumed Bosch went with their mechanism because Festool had a patent or something for the bars out the front on the kapex.
Another really good video guys. It looks like and absolute beast and has just about every function you could hope for, add the convenience of cordless and 36v of grunt and i know i want one, now to just convince the wife of the necessity lol.
Good luck Sean! :D
makita will probably have a 40v XGT version out next year.
@@sadiporter2966 Seems likely enough.
Will this saw fit through a std 30" doorway when fitted to a rolling stand thx guys
Is it possible to fit a 10" blade on this one? Highly doubting to get the dls111 or dls211. Don't think I'll need to cutting capacity any time soon so I'm leaning toward the 260mm one as it should be more precise, faster and more energy efficient but if the dls211 can fit a 10" blade too I might be tempted to go for that one instead.
I think it you put a smaller blade on the saw, the blade won't reach down far enough to finish cuts? [Dwain]
You guys should do the 305mm flexvolt mitre saw review and compare the two possibly 🤔
I'd love to review the Flexvolt 12" for sure.
Hey guys nice review. Greetings from Hamburg Germany . Is this saw kompatibel with 220v normal cable? And whats Maximum cutting ? Is 12×12cm possible. Happy new year too🤙
Hi Samank! No it can only run on a Makita battery. You'll have to check the website to see if it can handle 120mm depth.
That’s one hell of a saw! But I’m very happy with my DeWalt’s one too. 😀
It sure is
Great review thanks...the issue of clamps or no clamps may seem irrelevant to guys always using or only cutting standard lumber, but if you ever have to work with a live edge and somewhat twisted board clamps are a must....and a quick release would be great. BTW does this saw also allow direct power input for when you can save and/or charge your batteries at the same time?
cheers man. No it doesn't allow a plus to be put in, which we would REALLY like to see. We forgot to talk to that! [Dwain]
@@OZToolTalk Thanks mate, yes ability to access direct power would make sense and so easy fort Makita to have added to a high end machine like this, cheers
btw, why does a live edge change the equation re: clamp?
@@OZToolTalk Because often the edge (often bowed or concave) isn't square to the guide plates and as you cut through, the support pressure can "pinch" the blade and either jam and/or affect getting a straight cut....... having the clamps helps prevents most of the movement in this instance and is therefore a lot safer and helps prevent a poor cut.
@@evermore8888 ah yeah that makes sense. cheers :D
Not sure what's the best mitre saw,
Festool - Expensive but nice
Dewalt - Ol reliable no frills
Bosch - Strong heavy
nice video what your opinion between battery miter saw or electric miter saw, what your pick and why? thanks!
it's really job specific, I can't really answer that. Obviously electric for a saw that never moves off the bench.
I carried one into a house once and hurt my back.
I won’t be getting, that’s for sure.
I love cordless stuff for getting in and out quick, with little setup. A heavy monster just isn’t appealing.
I keep my heavy corded tools in the workshop.
I wish the 190mm 36v saws came with AWS. I would replace my corded one.
why is the electric brake so slow on this 12 ınch. the 10 ınch version has an instant electric brake
do to the size of the blade and speed.
Being delivered tomorrow 😜
What do you guys think of Makita moving to 40v?
Have to wait til we see it :) And it's really 36V :)
I cut 100 by 200 oak sleepers with my metabo 305 electric miter saw, would this be up for the job as I'm going cordless for ease, Kevin
hmmm I'm not sure. sorry Kevin
Ahh ok thanks
Guy I work with has the corded.ome and I move it around all the time???
Good job :D
Your medal is in the mail.
@@andrewford80 lol, u said I do, didn't say it's ideal 😂
👍👍👍👏
That saw is huge.. The biggest problem with battery saws is the extraction part, with powered saws the extractor auto kicks in but with a battery saw you have to turn it on manually. Id stick to powered.
cp070476 The AWS Bluetooth auto starts it, or am I missing what your saying.
No it does and is specifically designed to alleviate this 'problem'
I can't believe that this review is unbiased by the way you speak.
Yeah, this entire this is purely marketing.
watch some more reviews from us then. we get excited by new tools and especially good tools
@@OZToolTalk No thankyou.
Come on Makita. How do you put a laser on that thing instead on a shadow line? Lasers are hard to see and have to be adjusted. Shadow lines never have to be adjusted and are perfect every time. I would not buy that saw based on that alone.
jps101574 Inreresting point mate 👍🏼
Agreed
absolutely agree
What do you mean with shadow line? Never Heard about it. Thanks
@@berndbraun80 It is a light behind the blade. It casts a shadow the size of the blade width onto the cut piece. Milwaukee as them on their saws.
Quite a limited market for such an expensive tool, this will be discontinued in a few years. Manufacturers need to be putting this much effort into the small saws, interested to see what the newish 7" hikoki 36v mitresaw will be like.
It’s a good saw but it wont cut a 100mm thickness piece of wood. They completely missed the boat with that
many saws struggle to cut a 100x100 post...
I can bet my left nut that, just like majority of Makita gear, it is just quality all the way. My only issue is two batteries. I really dislike that from Makita. Milwaukee and Dewalt can get by with a big single battery and I think thats been something that even Makita has noticed that it's costed them sales. I reckon it's that precise reason why they have the new 40V XGT battery platform.
I reckon you're right ;) [Dwain]
Just got my dls211zu and there is mafacturing flaw in turntable ,metal against metal when turning ,purely down to poor manufacturing and poor quality control ,will be going back to Makita and was told several saws have came back with the same issue ,so Shane on you Makita ,sent 2 emails to Makita U.K. still haven’t answered,this is the 3 rd tool I have bought flawed from new out of the box 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
So around $1500 with the 2 x 18 volt batteries & charger + another $300 for 2 spare batteries if you want to keep working when the first 2 go flat. Then there’s what another $300 ish for a folding trolley table to be able to use it onsite?
So say $2100 as a package!
And after 2 weeks when the battery charger sh!ts itself Makita will have discontinued that line / model & have gone to say 1 x36 volt battery & charger & this saw is obsolete even while still in warranty more than likely!
That’s the trouble with this sh!t - technology moves so fast these days, the bastards obsolete before you get it home!
Trades rely on their tools to make a living but the tools aren’t built any more for long reliable service life.
Makita have lost their way!
Too many millennials kids addicted to playing space invaders on the design team! 😡👎
How often have makita changed their 18v battery platform?
A kit with stand, 2 batts and double charger costs $1650. And it's probably fair to say that most buyers would already have Makita batteries as the spares.
Also, why would the release of a 40V similar saw make this 18Vx2 obsolete and useless?
I don't think you're comment is very objective Ian. [Dwain]
Ian Moone I couldn't agree more ,all this stuff is over the top ,me and my mate frame houses year in year out with basic equipment, usually an Elu sliding saw or the old 10" makita dropsaw a 71/4 corded saw and a 91/4 for beam cuts etc . All this complicated bullshit they have now is totally unnecessary.
interman 77 Yep! Miller’s falls hand held circular saw was the replacement for a Philadelphia Disston hand held rip saw! Used to hand cut green Karri & Jarrah roof beams up on the roof back in war service settlement houses back in the 50’s!
Kids these days, it it hasn’t got batteries & talk to their IPhone they lose interest after the first 5 minutes!
These 2 kids presenting can’t lift 31 kilos? I’ve done farts weigh more than that!
I’d kick their asses until their nose bleeds if it were me! 😜😜😂😂👍
@@ianmoone2359 Easy to say over the internet Ian. I train in grappling 5-6 hours a week and weigh over 100kgs. So I like my chances.
But if you don't believe that many people's backs would be upset at carrying a 31kg saw of this size, then you are not being honest with yourself. BTW, how many 15-20 year carpenters do you know with bad backs???
No one is saying that you can't frame a house with a circ saw and a basic droppy. But if there wasn't a market for this sort of gear, then it wouldn't be produced would it? And since you are here watching the review, you obviously have some level of interest....
So what point are you trying to make exactly? [Dwain]